lore-discussion

[noble falcon]

no you're thinking of reaper shark
thats why he got so buff, so he can get his revenge on winter

[thick slate]

he also declared war on the US for no reason

[wooden shadow]

technically operation barbarossa started in june of 1941

Africa is canon to the world of Calamity confirmed

[craggy sparrow]

How Yharim could've won the conquest;

Do it yourself

Nah but seriously i think if he just had a tad of sanity he could've succeeded

Instead of aura farming and killing 5 gazillion people

[thick slate]

i could win if i was yharim

calamity hoi4 mod when

[tall delta]

this yharim man

i cant

[frozen brook]

not this stupud copypadta

pasta

say ignore the brimstone crags

[leaden bridge]

Keeping "ignore africa" unchanged is part of the joke im afraid

[zenith geode]

this is true

[modest elk]

are refights canon?

specifically Yharon but the others too

[feral skiff]

no

[eager bluff]

scals is

[feral skiff]

yeah but ONLY scal

[raven brook]

well not only scal

theres a few boss you can realistically refight

like queen bee

or eye of chtulhu

or both evil1s

[modest elk]

slime god?

[eager bluff]

no

[woeful karma]

no

king slime maybe

[eager bluff]

slime god is dead dead once you kill queen slime

[woeful karma]

theres gotta be more than one of those

[eager bluff]

king slime is functionally just a really really big slime so yeah not out of the question

[modest elk]

but before then maybe?

[eager bluff]

no

its ass is not fighting you again

[woeful karma]

slime god would need to be really stupid to fight you again after you whooped its ass the first time

[eager bluff]

canonically it got the jump on you and still got its ass beat

[modest elk]

I mean its still a slime…

[eager bluff]

no

[woeful karma]

and its singular speciality is running away

[eager bluff]

it really isnt

thats like saying yharon is just a really big bird

[modest elk]

im speaking biologically its probably not very intelligent

[eager bluff]

slime god is Smart remember it was a human and it has not lost that intelligence

[leaden bridge]

What if yharim was the us military and he bombed your city

[woeful karma]

that would be bad

[leaden bridge]

huh! Someone should do something about that, then

[modest elk]

I cant even think of an in game example thats like half of the biomes

[long bloom]

the only one that's been explicitly confirmed as canon is scal

but there's a few others that still make sense

[crimson schooner]

where are the ninjas who get stuck in this guy coming from !?

[raven brook]

throudon headcanon

[eager bluff]

he just makes those

actually no

[raven brook]

throudon headcanon

[eager bluff]

tiny ninja present in every slime

grows in size with the slime

[raven brook]

king slimes are often the result of a kinsman funerary rite where they let their deceased's body be consumed by a slime as a way to return them to nature because balance and allat

throudon headcanon

[pale star]

Yall think Yharim is on the spectrum or nah

[errant swallow]

a lor

lot

[raven brook]

yeah

[strong notch]

nah

went into another level of it

[light moth]

Ahhh
Hi guys
Quite a weird question
What would happen if Yharim (somehow) came to the past and faced Xeroc right before he arrived to Zerathros?
Who would win in a fight?

[long bloom]

yharim

easily

you're talking about pre ascension xeroc, yes?

[light moth]

Yeah

[long bloom]

yeah he was just

regular guy

[light moth]

Wasnt he already strong as hell while even being a mortal?

[long bloom]

pretty strong but nowhere even comparable to yharim

[strong notch]

Zeratros after learning that Yharim decided to beat up his favourite monk

[light moth]

Dont think he would do anything tho xd

Cuz, ahh, ya know, deadly wounded

[strong notch]

didn't see 'right before' part

sry

[light moth]

Now I think about it
Has Yharim ever took into consideration that Zerathros could give Xeroc his power so he could take his responsibilities?

[raven brook]

you think yharim thinks about whether the things hes doing are morally correct

[light moth]

Nah, it’s fine

[raven brook]

bro blew up a city and killed thousands because 1 good god everyone liked was there

not even that he sent his child soldier to do it

[light moth]

Fair argument

[errant swallow]

were there good gods?

[light moth]

Yeah
The hallowed was generated out of good gods remains/souls

[errant swallow]

are there any good gods mentioned?

[limpid saddle]

Well we don't know of any by name that would've died early enough to become part of the Hallow

[long bloom]

otonilou
tyrian
silva
agnus

[light moth]

Silva
(Probably)
God of life

[errant swallow]

silva was good?

[light moth]

Yeah

[long bloom]

yeah???

[errant swallow]

idk about the others

i mean

[long bloom]

another fallen for yharim propaganda..

he's so good at lying he manipulates people in real life

[limpid saddle]

But generally The Slime God & Silva are considered 'good Gods', alongside snail mf cutting me off with Ontonilou, Goddess Of Electricity, Tyrian, God Of The Sea, & Silva, Goddess Of Life

[errant swallow]

no idk abt silva

i mean

all i know

her dead body created the abyss

and abyss isnt fun

[long bloom]

no

[errant swallow]

that was what i was thinking

[long bloom]

her dead body created plants in the abyss

the actual trench existed long before

[errant swallow]

ohh

[light moth]

By the way
Have a question about introductory doc
Why is there mentioned the “You should question Yharim’s words”?
As.. well.. I want to believe that its better if lore reader finds it out themselves

[split mortar]

Xeroc is also possibly there but we lack info to be sure

[long bloom]

we need to tell people that because he's the source of 99% of ingame info

[errant swallow]

xeroc was not good im pretty sure

was the ravager god good?

[split mortar]

Guy is possibly the reason the world hasnt ended

[light moth]

I will say something odd probably, but I just do not find a single reason for Xeroc not to stop Yharim
Even though he could

[mighty zenith]

a lot of people dont realize yharim is meant to be biased

[errant swallow]

he was god of self sacrifise

[split mortar]

That was agnus before it got necromancied

So yes

[mighty zenith]

which is fair because he's the only source of lore people usually read

its an issue with the way its implemented

[errant swallow]

what?

[long bloom]

current theory is that they leave terraria to do its own thing
let nature run its course

[split mortar]

Xeroc is possibly why noxus or any other cosmic threat hasnt just
Dropped in
And ate the less organised gods

And instead uses dog

[errant swallow]

is the player evil?

[errant swallow]

I KNEW SOMONE WAS GONNA SEND IG

I WAS TYPING THAT IF SOMONE SENDS THAT

[limpid saddle]

Are YOU evil Susie Deltarune?

[errant swallow]

uhh no

?

[light moth]

So doesnt it make him kinda just powerhungry?

[long bloom]

?

[limpid saddle]

Then the terrarian isnt evil

[errant swallow]

wha

[limpid saddle]

Because the terrarian is YOU!

[errant swallow]

im talking in terms of people we kill during a playthrough

[long bloom]

(not actually you irl, they're just your oc)

[split mortar]

Our list
Wild animals
Tormented souls of the damned
Robots
People trying to invade and kill us
The end of the world if it became roadkill

Idk i dont think that can really be evil

[errant swallow]

ive never imagined what the lore of my character would be

i mean wof holds back the essence of gods

plantera is doing its own thing

[light moth]

Well you can kill only those who are evil by your perspective

[split mortar]

Is controlled by the souls of the damned iirc

And also like its a plant

[mighty zenith]

you dont rly... kill people

[limpid saddle]

The Aquatic Scourge is just a regular fish

[light moth]

Like, ML is objectively... ahh.. evil
WoF... how to judge that thing?

[mighty zenith]

the only PERSON you have to kill is cultist

but cultist is like

[limpid saddle]

Im pretty sure it's not even a carnivore it eats like, plankton

[mighty zenith]

terrible

[split mortar]

When you do they are running to you to murder you (pirates and goblins)

[errant swallow]

golem?

theres golem

ds

[split mortar]

Thats just a machine

A Robot

[errant swallow]

aquatic scourge

[long bloom]

pile of rocks

[split mortar]

Animal

[mighty zenith]

raiding the temple is pretty fucked though

[split mortar]

Animal

[light moth]

Yharon tho is also necessary to kill
Considering that his actions and words are reasonable.. it's a bit more debatable

[errant swallow]

i mean but still

[long bloom]

yharon is evil

[mighty zenith]

yharon is NOT reasonable

[errant swallow]

im still confused on yharon morally

[split mortar]

Yharon is evil

[long bloom]

he's fucked

[errant swallow]

is the slime god a god

[split mortar]

Encouraged yharim the entire time

[split mortar]

Its in the name???

[errant swallow]

i mean yeah

why is it so weak

[mighty zenith]

tbf so is deus

gods arent inherently powerful

[long bloom]

gods vary in power

[split mortar]

Gods vary in power just like everything else do

[errant swallow]

it also doesnt have a lore item

[mighty zenith]

yeah it does

[split mortar]

Slime god does

[long bloom]

yes they do??

[errant swallow]

wait yeah?

can somone send

[long bloom]

it's on the wiki

[errant swallow]

also are the slime gods multiple or one

[long bloom]

and lore doc #1

[long bloom]

one guy

like providence

[errant swallow]

why did dog need to eat gods again

[long bloom]

both gods

[split mortar]

Theres only one god of everything

[split mortar]

Noxus prolly

[errant swallow]

i mean yharim also knows why

im prettyy asure

[split mortar]

No

[light moth]

We dont even know what he was doing all the time
Maybe he didnt know that Yharim used child soldiers or nuked half of the world

[split mortar]

Yharim does not know noxus

[long bloom]

he absolutely did

[errant swallow]

im saying its prolly not noxus

[long bloom]

?????

[split mortar]

Genuinely no other answer

[errant swallow]

why is noxus the answer to every dog related question

[long bloom]

because that's his boss??

[split mortar]

It cant really be anything but noxus as the boss of dog

[errant swallow]

i mean yeah but still

[mighty zenith]

cause the main reason DoG is even here at all is most likely noxus

[errant swallow]

it cant be the answer of EVERYTHING

[long bloom]

noxus is john distortion

[mighty zenith]

and its easy to answer because we dont know fuckall about noxus apart from DoG working for it

[long bloom]

he controls everything

[light moth]

It's unknown, okay?
Yharim could hide all of this from him so Yharon would not start to question him

[errant swallow]

was signus born in the distortion?

[long bloom]

no

that's not possible

[errant swallow]

they are attuned

[mighty zenith]

you're really underestimating yharon's intelligence

[long bloom]

yes

[split mortar]

Yeah distortion creature

[errant swallow]

how was it born

lol

[mighty zenith]

you really think yharim's second in command of the crusade wouldn't notice ANY of the attrocities?

[long bloom]

yharon has human intelligence

[mighty zenith]

when everyone else did?

[errant swallow]

prolly more

[split mortar]

Yharim would not hide it from yharon
If yharim knew to hide it from yharon then yharim would likely
Not do it

[light moth]

Wait, he does?

[split mortar]

Yes

[mighty zenith]

yeah

[long bloom]

yeah

that's a whole ass person

[mighty zenith]

he's the one who told yharim of what happened to the dragons

[split mortar]

Whole person who has existed for millenia

[mighty zenith]

he's closer to a human than animal

[errant swallow]

yharon has prolly superhuman intelligence

[light moth]

Well..
That's shitty..
My friend, who considers him a good boy, would really be disapointed

[long bloom]

ehhh

[errant swallow]

sprite makes him look like a chicken

[errant swallow]

tf you mean ehh

[mighty zenith]

melting pizza tail

[long bloom]

not really any evidence to suggest that

[errant swallow]

prolly stronger thn most gods

meaning smarter too

[mighty zenith]

thats not how it works

[long bloom]

strength ≠ intelligence

what

[mighty zenith]

ravager is insanely strong yet dumb as bricks because its a zombie

[split mortar]

How??

[errant swallow]

not what i was tryna say anyway

[long bloom]

guys albert einstein was super jacked

could beat mike tyson

[errant swallow]

is there any rebirth related thing in calamity verse?

[mighty zenith]

[errant swallow]

cuz if yharon is dragon of rebirth

there has to be a cycle of rebirth or smth

[light moth]

It's.... ahhhh... quite narrow minded way of thinking
Even more strange than
"A > B
B > C
A > C and it's not debatable"

[long bloom]

necromancy magic is based on how yharon revived dragons

[errant swallow]

revived dragons?

[mighty zenith]

yharon's revival power was exclusive to auric dragons though

[long bloom]

yes

that's his entire job

[split mortar]

Revived via rebirth

[mighty zenith]

and it only worked while they still had a soul

except moon lord did something to prevent that

we dunno how

[long bloom]

he was the designated dragon reviver

[split mortar]

Moonlord shrimply just fucking snapped the souls in two bruteforce and yharon didnnot know how to handle that

[long bloom]

yeah ml likely has some unspecified ability that prevents yharon from reviving dragons he killed

otherwise why was him showing up such a massive catastrophe

[split mortar]

Not even killed also Just injured

[light moth]

Maybe by contacting with any being he can put a curse on its soul

[split mortar]

The debuff is not that dangerous iirc

[light moth]

So it would not be repairable at any way

[split mortar]

Unless you not on about that

[light moth]

Well, nobody knows for now

[light moth]

But I am

xd

[split mortar]

True could have been stronger when fovos was in prime

[sinful adder]

What?????

Please, explain your reasoning for all this

Because it seems completely nonsense

[errant swallow]

gods are pretty spart prolly

[sinful adder]

A bear is physically stronger than a human but it isn't smarter

So actually strength and intelligence are entirely unrelated

[errant swallow]

dragons were imo a superior race to humans

[sinful adder]

Anyways, the lore is this:
The dragons are as smart as humans probably
Yharon had the power to be reborn and could share that power with other auric dragons before they died in a special way (had their souls consumed)

[sinful adder]

There is no such thing as superior

[long bloom]

gods are effectively regular people with superpowers

[sinful adder]

Not in any general sense

These things aren't opinions, they have objective answers

The dragons were just really strong magic lizards that had roughly human intelligence

[split mortar]

Yeah like human pretty smart not superhuman

[errant swallow]

idk i didnt have a word for very smart

as in the human very smart

[raven brook]

racism gaming 🔥

[errant swallow]

i still remember a dev crashing out at me cuz i didnt know lore well at the time and was talking about something and said "i just think"

[long bloom]

was it reb

[errant swallow]

whos reb again

they said to me

dont think dipshit

[split mortar]

@spare pier this user has is who xzier is on about

Btw whichever hag reads this i hope you get a inverted glass of orange juice

[errant swallow]

who is xzier

[raven brook]

im using discords search function and i cant find anything

[long bloom]

Snailrook

[raven brook]

Burrower

[errant swallow]

idk i remember the person who @split mortar said saying that to me

i remember it word for word

[raven brook]

i searched both "dont think dipshit" and "Just think" from you and couldnt find anything

[errant swallow]

i couldnt find too

[raven brook]

mandela effect :?

[errant swallow]

no

why does ds get the most badass them

[long bloom]

whar

[errant swallow]

whar

[raven brook]

fascinating user

[errant swallow]

qho

who

what was the lore of the mechs again

[long bloom]

built by draedon to look for gods

infused with the souls of dead yharim soldiers

skeletron prime was dedicated to burning civilians alive

[raven brook]

also said yharim soldiers did so willingly seemingly

they were like fuck yeah make us into awesome fucking mechs after we die

[real silo]

godseekers going from mech tier to mech tier

masterful gambit

[visual kiln]

@raven brook change my name to william “gaster” afton pls

[raven brook]

y arent you asleep

[visual kiln]

i am

Gnn

[foggy fern]

LOL

[wheat ibex]

only to be named "skeltron prime by the terrarian

[spare pier]

Sorry About That

Vriska Is A Very Huge Ass

[real silo]

get yo people under control smh

[errant swallow]

shit

new keyboard my enter key is always on the wrong place

[thick slate]

move it

[errant swallow]

tf you mean move it

[thick slate]

like yea

move the key cap

[limpid saddle]

take it out and move it

[errant swallow]

its the long type

[limpid saddle]

you can also customize key settings on certain devices

[dusk laurel]

🚬

[west wedge]

i agree

[long scaffold]

Then again Yharim said that iirc sooo

[dusk laurel]

well thats one of the things he wasnt lying about

he just had that many loyal soldiers

[split mortar]

That would count as slavery which yharim would rather like
Not do

[long scaffold]

Yeah, though exaggeration is still a thing

Though I’ll admit defeat here

[thick slate]

yummy

[limpid saddle]

one, quite sure thats against the rules to say
two, fuck no it wouldn't that would be straight teeth have you ever looked at the devourer of gods?

anyway delete it before mods do it

[long bloom]

hi waweezer

[magic ridge]

Ok fiiiiinnneee

[magic ridge]

Hello : )

[limpid saddle]

thank you kindly

[steep vortex]

I wonder if scal attacks us out of pure evilness or not

My head cannon is that she doesn’t want us to reach yharim but idk

I’m pretty sure it’s not out of pure evilness

[long bloom]

canonically, she thinks you'll become yharim 2

but realizes you're not

[steep vortex]

Oh

Yeah cus tbh her lines shows that she’s not that evil

[long bloom]

she is not evil and also fucking despises yharim

[steep vortex]

She just got immense power very young and got manipulated

[long bloom]

also curse of horrifically outdated dialogue

[steep vortex]

True

They’re updating them in brainstorm

I can’t wait to see

[long bloom]

they are?

hell yeah

[steep vortex]

More lore for my lore nerd self

[steep vortex]

Well they def are but idk if in brainstorm

I hope so

I talked to ozzatron about it a bit

And he said they’ll keep the “do you enjoy goin trough hell”

So I’m happy

[dusk laurel]

is calamitas included in cei's delay of her lore stuff from brainstorm

[long bloom]

no permafreaky dialogue?

man

[hasty valley]

Question

Saw some guy saying calamity lore outscales ultrakill lore

Does it

[long bloom]

what happens in ultrakill

[steep vortex]

Ultrakill has lore?

[hasty valley]

💀

[hasty valley]

Frankly i have no idea but it is pretty lore rich

Iirc it pretty much starts with God “disappearing”

For some reason

[long bloom]

well calamity doesn't scale very high compared to other media

there's nothing that can destroy a planet

or even come close

[steep vortex]

Yeah

Which is good honestly

[hasty valley]

I forgot was Xeroc said to be continental

[steep vortex]

Power scaling too high is boring

[hasty valley]

I do know that Xeroc could destroy the planet however it’d take a long time

Noxus might have an easier time doing so but is still weaker than Xeroc

[long bloom]

i believe the metric is that they can destroy a mountain range with significant effort
i'm probably completely wrong though

[steep vortex]

Is noxus in basecal lore?

[hasty valley]

Yes

[long bloom]

they could not

[steep vortex]

Astrageldon isn’t basecal lore but it’s powerful as shit

It’s like a black hole or some shit

I like cal’s lore

Catalyst’s geldon is very good in lots of ways

[hasty valley]

They could but it largely depends on

What you mean by planet destruction

[long bloom]

elaborate

[hasty valley]

Complete planetary destruction where its reduced to fragments? No

A barren remnant of a planet with its outer surface completely wiped out? Yes

[long bloom]

probably not

[hasty valley]

Depends on if xeroc, noxus and fovos were yet again downscaled

When I was gone for a bit

[steep vortex]

Design wise, gameplay wise, music wise, lore wise

Is it obvious that I like catalyst?

[hasty valley]

Being totally honest I had no idea geldon had its own lore

[steep vortex]

[steep vortex]

If you check the fight made by myra

There is

It’s like

Something

It’s like one of the slimes that got more and more powerful after dog got defeated I can’t recall well

And it became like universal level power

[long bloom]

geldon is pre moonlord

also from a different galaxy

[steep vortex]

Well in the lore it’s like a different world where deus defeated dog

Somehow

https://youtu.be/zCBe1JFjqjQ

Astral blight formed because of it

Yup astrageldon’s density is equal to many millions of galaxies

[limpid saddle]

where are you getting this information?

[steep vortex]

The video I just sent

[limpid saddle]

is this old lore or some total calamity wiki crockpot

because astrageldon hasn't existed in any official capacity for like 6 years

[long bloom]

they're talking about catalyst lore

[limpid saddle]

that mf pre moonlord he aint doing SHIT

[steep vortex]

It’s the lore for catalyst

It’s an addon

Prob the best one honestly

[limpid saddle]

I know what catalyst is i'm a summoner

[thick slate]

ur a bummoner

[limpid saddle]

anyhow there's exactly one lore item & it all says this is 'this thing was impossibly dense & nigh unkillable, good thing you killed it' & then Yharim slanders the shit out of the Slime God

where are you getting any involvement with the DoG from

Does Catalyst have it's own set of unimplemented dev statements that are going to be added in 3 years when SSO comes out

[steep vortex]

The video that I just sent

[steep vortex]

This

There’s a full on lore section at the beginning

[limpid saddle]

I ain't taking shit from some youtuber give me the sources damn you

Half of calamity & its expansions lore youtube is gaslighting & outdated

& the other half is just wrong

[fleet wedge]

Asks for lore
Is provided lore
"This is bullsh*t"
Seems like a fandom brain if I've ever seen one

[long bloom]

random ass youtube videos are not trustworthy

[limpid saddle]

glad to have you in my corner tengal

[split mortar]

Youtube is
Not
Trustworthy

[leaden bridge]

its true actually its on the wiki

like unironically wiki lore

[split mortar]

Yeah p sure it is
Still better to source the wiki then a yt vid

[modest elk]

how does the archmage not just fall out of cryogen in the last phase theres huge cracks

[leaden bridge]

hes hanging tight

[craggy sparrow]

Mfs when they need to read and disect their favorite media

instead of yt video essay slop

[limpid saddle]

Calamitas built it to have incredible structural integrity

besides none of the holes are big enough for a person to come out of

[limpid saddle]

anyway this is why I believe Permafrost also tutored her in civil engineering which he became very involved with during the Crusades

[long scaffold]

Does Yharim literally have wings or is he being metaphorical in Awakening

[noble falcon]

I mean if he got as far as we have currently I can only assume he made wings at some point

What kind do you think he uses
My bet’s on pixie wings

[real silo]

He would not wear pixie wings because those came from the hallow which is god related

[limpid saddle]

he's being metaphorical

why would he need wings if he has yharon

[real silo]

He would wear wings of rebirth this is obvious.....

[long scaffold]

"Fittingly, he possessed a serpent's tongue. He manipulated me incessantly, driving me to awful acts."
I feel like this is a half-truth, correctly saying that DoG attempted to drive him to evil while skirting around the fact that Yharim is evil enough in his own right

Though I am very inexperienced with lore stuff

[limpid saddle]

Yeah you're about there

The general consensus is at this point in the Crusades with or without the Devourer's influence Yharim recognized he began to plateau in strength, & felt apathetic about the matters of ruling his Empire, which was beginning to collapse without the strong managerial skills of Permafrost, as he desperately attempted to complete the Crusades with his own two hands

Though I think the Devourer goading him on certainly expedited & made the process signifigantly worse, leading him to become more unabashedly cruel & demanding of his greatest allies

Yharim's a bad person, but he's someone with a clearly defined moral code, & I think it's safe to say he regrets crossing his own lines

[abstract hedge]

For him, anything is justified if it means getting rid of gods and their worshippers.

He literally had a mech dedicated to burning civilians alive.

His only regrets are that his crusade "failed" in a sense and he lost his allies.

He probably also regrets a bit of his Comically Evil Crusade but not much since he evidently wants us to take his place as a Comically Evil Crusader.

[long scaffold]

DoG must be serving someone really powerful...
Whom I sadly can't take seriously with his old addon boss form

[limpid saddle]

He regrets the human rights violations on HIS side of the table

[sinful adder]

Someone else once explained it as:
"My bad, I shouldn't have made a child commit genocide and kill her father, I should have done it myself"

[long scaffold]

Wait, who's SCal's father?
Or was that a joke

[abstract hedge]

We don't know of her actual one but permafrost is basically her adopted one.

And Yharim ordered her to kill him but she made cryogen instead.

[raven brook]

Yeah Permafrost for adopted father

but as for actual biological father we dunno and if she's not a orphan he's definitely not alive anymore

but chances are given her brothesr basically raised her, absent at best, dead at worst

[long scaffold]

Their reward was to be puppeted around for eternity

[pulsar ocean]

did everyone in azafure have ashy skin

[long scaffold]

Tax Collector seems to be Azafurian (Azafurese? Azafurish?) and he doesn't look like that so no

[dusk laurel]

hes azafurian but likely not azafurian ethnically

[long scaffold]

He calls it "my land" so it would be odd if he was a foreigner

[magic epoch]

maybe logically but consider stupid people

have you ever seen how some people (mainly speaking about americans from what i've seen) who are like 2% irish or whatever act about that

[raven brook]

He lived on azafure, he just wasn't native azafurian in ethnicity

Same as the guide

[jaunty wraith]

The lore stated that azufure was the capital of the underworld right?

[raven brook]

Not quite

The underworld wasn't one big unified civilization

It's more of just, a enviroment

Azafure was a civilization on it

Having a capital to the underworld would be kind of like having a capital to the african savannah or a capital to the amazon rainforest

[robust osprey]

hell is kinda just wilderness I think

[noble falcon]

david attenborough's new documentary special, Hell Planet

[scenic olive]

[feral skiff]

going on fandom.com without an adblocker is a horrible idea

don’t

it’s like being jumpscared by every single fnaf animatronic at once

[normal leaf]

Is Xeroc Chinese and I mean this unironically

[real silo]

no he's japanese

Born in the land of the sunrise

[mighty zenith]

xeroc is bulgarian

[raven brook]

well the onyx kinsman have asian aesthethics they've gotta have gotten that from SOMEWHERE

Feudal east asian stuff specially ninjas and samurais and shit

If we have fantasy brazil and fantasy iceland surely we can have fantasy china

:cluel

[normal leaf]

Hmm, I lowk think Xeroc is Chinese cause of their clothes but mainly their weapon being a monk’s spade that’s a weapon unique to China

[raven brook]

Calamity does employ alot of cultural inspiration from irl nations and groups

Even if none of those groups r actually real

The aforementioned onyx kinsman and their fuedal east asian aesththics

[eager bluff]

[cuts to yharim getting to the dragons aerie the first time] no its fine i just wasnt expecting it to be chinese

[raven brook]

Chrysadia and ancient greece

[normal leaf]

I know for a fact the Philippines is real in calamity

[raven brook]

Ibipaua and brazil

SO surely

Fantasy china exists somewhere

It just has to

[normal leaf]

Statis…

[eager bluff]

its the aerie it has to be the aerie

[raven brook]

[normal leaf]

https://tenor.com/view/papist-dalton-chinese-heaven-white-man-chinese-heaven-didnt-expect-it-to-be-chinese-no-its-fine-gif-4418050449031898516

Oh right

No it’s fine, I just didn’t think it’d be Chinese

[raven brook]

https://tenor.com/view/papist-dalton-chinese-heaven-white-man-chinese-heaven-didnt-expect-it-to-be-chinese-no-its-fine-gif-4418050449031898516

dw i gotchu

[normal leaf]

Thx cheese

If dragon aerie is China, this means that Zeratros has some kind of relation to Qin Shi Huang the first emperor of unified China

Actually, the whole mercury drinking would like thematically fit with the ascension thing actually…

[eager bluff]

yeah somebody misheard him catastrophically when he said his name was qin shi huang so hes just zeratros now

[warm gull]

save yharim 2028

[craggy sparrow]

Yharim sunk birigan

and the whole of davao

[broken pawn]

When you get to the dragon aerie but it's full of dragon corpses that had their souls stolen

[fleet wedge]

Counterpoint: distortion is fantasy China

[night barn]

happens all the time

[limpid saddle]

seems more like florida

maybe australia?

[feral skiff]

yeah i’m in australia and there’s black swirling fog and distortions around me

send help please

[night barn]

find ceaseless void bro quick

[glacial rampart]

i caught the flu how does this relate to cal lore

[long bloom]

plague nanomachines

[glacial rampart]

awakening my agito seed ❤️‍🩹

[fleet wedge]

I'm playing thorium how does this relate to cal lore

[craggy sparrow]

Vanilla plus quality slop

-Yharim

[errant swallow]

how does fargos souls relate to calamity lore

[robust osprey]

mutant is yharim clearly

[limpid saddle]

according to the fanart i've been exposed to, 'they fucking'

[robust osprey]

☹️

[limpid saddle]

the shippers are real

the tides of yaoi are inescapable

same with yuri really

[robust osprey]

hits you with yuri beam

[limpid saddle]

i'd post an appopriate gif but i dont have embed perms so imagine perfect cell getting obliterated

[robust osprey]

I am imagining it

[limpid saddle]

thank you

[craggy sparrow]

Is yharim Giving or receiving

[limpid saddle]

thats a good question

[split mortar]

Bad convo

[cloud ibex]

i agree

this convo sucks

[feral skiff]

why did Yharon start singing bars in the middle of his boss fight? is he stupid?

[real silo]

God forbid someone karaoke

[pulsar ocean]

why is the calamity stained and brutal

[limpid saddle]

this is to represent how Calamitas has stains on her robes from drooling on them while asleep in her cave & brutal to represent her brutalistic spine problems

[feral skiff]

the Terrarian reportedly LOSES to a resident cave-dweller brimstone witch, largest fumble of the century

[normal leaf]

Hi

[split mortar]

[cosmic minnow]

Ozz

[cosmic minnow]

What happened to your patron

Tron

[split mortar]

Only paid one month

[cosmic minnow]

oh

[long scaffold]

Are they even lore accurate anymore

Lore item says he left while lyrics said he’ll die for Yharim which really isn’t much considering he just comes back

[long bloom]

rotjd lyrics are indeed canon

sbc lyrics are not

[long scaffold]

Hm
Doesn’t seem to match up with what I’ve heard but I’ll take your word for it

[dusk laurel]

just change a few words and its fully canon

meanwhile sbc is way more obviously old lore

[steep vortex]

They’re still cool

[raven brook]

I mean he does come back but in 10 years

It's still a notable sacriifce

[split mortar]

Tbf that dying means yharon wont see yharim again due to the decade timer

[long scaffold]

I suppose you're right

Though the lore item implies he abandoned Yharim while in the song he fights until he dies
"Yharon may yet return, as he does, but he… he has bade me farewell."
I guess it could still make sense, just a little weird

[split mortar]

The bading farewell is cause no matter what if yharon dies then they cant see yharim alive again
Due to the decade timer
Yharim will die of age before then or die to us

[long scaffold]

I suppose so, though it read as he was leaving the troupe like Calamitas once he came back

Plausible to have it all make sense together, just some weird wording

[long bloom]

i agrees

[steep vortex]

SBC is still my fav dokuro song forever

[long bloom]

this is true

[feral skiff]

where’s that amidias meme picture

but he’s like horribly distorted and lifeless

[long bloom]

which one there's literally like 10

[raven brook]

Yharon stuck with him till the end

If anything, the only person who still supports him by the events of the game

Or the only major figure anyways im sure theres a buncha yharmy goons out there who still follow in his footsteps

[dusk laurel]

the yharmy event with the evil lihzahrd godseeker

[long bloom]

DoG is still there but disloyal as ever

[raven brook]

DoG is like effectively retired since his boss basically just dipped but it's not like that changes anything 😭 😭

before: eat god. be a dick

now: eat god. be a dick

[thick slate]

be a god

eat

hmmmm

[strong notch]

eat godflakes

[feral skiff]

just pick one at random

[noble falcon]

Aw hell nah we got the analog horror amidias

[fleet wedge]

Are the infernum lyrics closer to the new canon?

[dusk laurel]

scars of calamity?

idk i listened to like only the first 8 seconds of it

[mighty zenith]

scars of calamity is more about the composer than calamitas ngl

and like that was the intent too

[raven brook]

scars of calamity aren't really about calamity lore yeah

[abstract hedge]

Anyone got the "terrarian is you" picture?

I need it for something.

[young socket]

no but i do have one with just you

[long bloom]

just go to media tab

or search from user: melongun

[raven brook]

Random headcanoni just thought of but i like to think before ascending, Agnus was a traveling medic

[abstract hedge]

thanks

[wheat ibex]

does demonshade and shadowspec have any lore significance

[limpid saddle]

shadowspec is NON-CANON

IT DOESN'T EXIST

[wheat ibex]

can we remove it then

[limpid saddle]

no cause then that gets rid of the cool post game dev weapons

[split mortar]

Shadowspec is dev item and not canon
Demonshade is gonna be reworked to be a post scal armour so it just scal magic armour

[limpid saddle]

when yharim comes out they'll be retiered to post yharim

[wheat ibex]

mi-iiid

[split mortar]

If thing not canon = removed we would lose a lot of iconic weapons

[wheat ibex]

just make a lore relevant material

[limpid saddle]

how

[dusk laurel]

what material would it be

like why would it exist

[wheat ibex]

like god's essence or some shit

[limpid saddle]

auric is the strongest thing that exists in the setting

[split mortar]

The item being donor or dev or blatant reference still makes it not canon

[limpid saddle]

yeah we did that already

[dusk laurel]

yes mhm lets add a canon post auric material that just exists

[limpid saddle]

it's called the essence dropped by providence

[wheat ibex]

im js spitballin

[dusk laurel]

we have multiple instances of god essence already

[limpid saddle]

god essence isn't even that strong it's 100% a case by case basis

[limpid saddle]

Does purified gel count?

[dusk laurel]

the evil biomes and profaned content for example

[dusk laurel]

sure

[limpid saddle]

boom there

[split mortar]

Corruption seeds do

[dusk laurel]

thats 3/4 examples lmao

we dont need a fifth one imo

especially if its only purpose is to replace shadowspec

[limpid saddle]

I mean what would you even do for that

[dusk laurel]

which will not happen in a million years

[limpid saddle]

have xeroc throw primordial light bricks at you?

[split mortar]

Even if we canonise shadowspec the items would still not exist lmao

[split mortar]

Solar frags:

[limpid saddle]

no you dont get it it's XEROC bricks & that means they're better & stronger because they have brand quality assurance

[night crypt]

fax

[dusk laurel]

guys clearly all we have to do is say the terrarian uses their glupshito coding powers to melt every single boss into a horrible stew that can be turned into a metallic material

[long bloom]

xeroc bar

[raven brook]

draedon bars

[pulsar ocean]

Xeroc’s god essence

[mighty zenith]

xeroc tax

[dusk laurel]

horrible

[robust osprey]

vanillin did you pay your xeroc tax

[icy veldt]

I wonder what it tastes like

[strong notch]

Tastes like regret

[abstract hedge]

Shadowspec should be replaced by Yharock

After we kill him we don't need to Yharock anymore so we melt it down and find out it's the strongest material in existence.

Calamity should hire me...

[dusk laurel]

[agile matrix]

tastes like rotting meat, ungrowing dirt, and somehow very mild hints of pork

[brazen sorrel]

What is wulfrum according to lore? Can't understand why those wulfrum enemies even exist in first place

[raven brook]

They're robots made by anti-yharim rebels

[long bloom]

they were built by the yharim resistance to mildly annoy his troops

[raven brook]

Meant to kinda just annoy his troops since they arent really. you know. very strong

[brazen sorrel]

Ahh, so basically decoys

But what is the metall — wulfrum?

[raven brook]

We don't have much of a expalantion for that

[long bloom]

a special alloy crafted by john wulfrum himself

[raven brook]

My personal headcanon is that it's an alloy made of scraps of other metals that were used for other things, baically

And that's why it's so frail

[brazen sorrel]

It kinda looks like rusted copper

[raven brook]

It's made of a bunch of random shit, which does make it extremely cheap to make and cost-efficient

But also means it's like not really well balanced chemically and all that so it kinda sucks

Quantity > Quality basically

[brazen sorrel]

Thanks! Now i gotta understand what was azafure and why there is a lot of thing going there with word calamity in it...

[long bloom]

the first city

ever

in the world

[raven brook]

you know the brimstone crags

yeah that was azafure

[brazen sorrel]

Why was it in the bottom of the world?

[long bloom]

idk

maybe humans evolved in hell

but the surface kinda sucked at the time

the sun was a deadly laser

[raven brook]

The general plans for the lore was that the sun used to be really fucking hot in the past so humans mostly lived underground

And the brimstone crags provided plenty of food (Look at how lush it is) and the heat could be used to power things with thermal energy

[tropic oak]

surface too hot

iirc

The Sun was a Deadly Laser

[long bloom]

made that joke already

snailed

[brazen sorrel]

What is the brimstone? Some sulphurous stone? Was that made by John Brimstone?

[tropic oak]

i know

i was... saying the same thing u were cuz it was funny

[raven brook]

Brimstone is the red fire that you see all over the crags

Yknow the debuff and all that

brimstone flames

[long bloom]

also brimstone magic

the stuff calamitas uses

[raven brook]

yep

[brazen sorrel]

But what can it be chemically?

[long bloom]

i don't think cosmilite is an element on the periodic table

[brazen sorrel]

The reason why sulphurous sea became sulphurous?

[raven brook]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[long bloom]

i wouldn't worry about it

[long bloom]

well yes but actually no

[raven brook]

The sulphurous sea did become sulphurous because of fumes coming from azafure

[long bloom]

it was the fumes from factories in azafure

[raven brook]

From the industries and factories and all that

[long bloom]

and draedon dumping plutonium in it later

[raven brook]

Flowing up into the abyss and upwards into the sulph sea

[brazen sorrel]

So there was a lot of sulphur, meaning brimstone was the sulphur?

[long bloom]

unclear

[tropic oak]

you know what would solve this

[raven brook]

For the most part life managed to fully adapt to the sulphuric fumes after a while

[brazen sorrel]

Btw in some localisations brimstone is literally called «sulphur»

[night barn]

life became gross and goofy

[raven brook]

But Draedon dumping his nuclear waste in there kinda fucked things up

[tropic oak]

someone should make a really shitty mspaint chart of how the abyss / sulpherous sea / brimstone crags works

[long bloom]

TRUE

[night barn]

brimstone as a word did originally literally mean sulfur

[raven brook]

Brimstone - yeah

[brazen sorrel]

No way

[raven brook]

It dosen't mean it necessarily has to mean that in here

[night barn]

yeah its meaning has shifted but in some contexts it still refers to same thing

in the bible brimstone and thereby sulfur is kinda used to refer to

shit getting exploded essentially

[mighty zenith]

eye sac

[brazen sorrel]

But why the bottom of abyss didn't get affected by sulphur fumes, while the surface get?

[night barn]

it did

[limpid saddle]

it did & then it rose

[raven brook]

The fumes slowly flew up into the surface, and near the bottom there are animals that have managed to purify it

[night barn]

it just all rose the top

[long bloom]

cannonball jellyfish

[raven brook]

Read the entries for the Devilfish, Cannonball Jellyfish and i believe Chaotic Puffer

[limpid saddle]

not helped by all the toxic garbage Draedon dumped in the sea

[brazen sorrel]

Ahh, forgot about it

[raven brook]

All of them play a part in purifying the lower levels of the abyss

[limpid saddle]

But that didn't exactly sink down

[raven brook]

It's the sort of trivia that can easily go unnoticed since it's kinda just in bestiary entries for a few enemies

Which is pretty cool

[night barn]

also true the top is more stinky than the bottom cause draedon dumped all his radioactive gloop on the surface

[tropic oak]

craked out

[night barn]

W diagram

[brazen sorrel]

Ahh, btw

About plants

[tropic oak]

the red lines above azafure are supposed to be stinky lines

[brazen sorrel]

Who is the silva?

[tropic oak]

but it didnt work

[night barn]

about plants

[raven brook]

Silva is the goddess of life

[tropic oak]

SIlva is the Goddess of Life

[long bloom]

nature elemental and goddess of life

[raven brook]

She's immortal due to being a elemental, which are functionally immortal beings

However Yharim beat the living shit out of her and dumped her body in the abyss

[tropic oak]

cheese we r killing xzier for outdoing us both at the start

sorry xzier i dont make the rules

[raven brook]

She'll come back eventually

[night barn]

she got chopped up and sunk into the abyss by yharim because hes a hater

[long bloom]

[raven brook]

But it'll take her a while to regenerate fully

Currently she's nothing more than a cocoon basically, you can't find it ingame but in the fuutre you will, at the bottom of the abyss

[brazen sorrel]

What would happen if Silva came back?

[raven brook]

Well she'd come back

[long bloom]

yharim would be pretty mad

[raven brook]

And that's kinda about it

[tropic oak]

yharim would prob come out of hiding

[long bloom]

that's about it

[night barn]

me personally if allat happened to me i wouldnt really let it slide

[long bloom]

yeah

[tropic oak]

if i had to guess

[cloud ibex]

she would probably be like "hello"

[night barn]

but yknow if silva wants to let it slide thats on her

[tropic oak]

he definitely has that like "Can you stay down there Go Fucking Die" kind of stance

[night barn]

not my jurisdiction

[raven brook]

Braelor and Statis would be like LET'S GO ‼️ and Yharim would be malding

[tropic oak]

FR

[brazen sorrel]

Imagine Silva NPC

[tropic oak]

silva npc my beloved

[night barn]

silva coming back as an actual storyline in cal would be very cool

[strong notch]

And then DoG would say "Hello" as well. - (If Silva returns pre DoG fight)

[mighty zenith]

silva would marry braelor and statis and yharim would instantly disintegrate

[raven brook]

that's his mom dude come on

[tropic oak]

i could go for some prequel stuff tbh

[mighty zenith]

no i mean

have them married

[brazen sorrel]

I wonder how DoG looked like before it consumed some gods

[night barn]

do we know if shes gonna come back in the mod or will we only see her little cocoon

[raven brook]

oh wait

[mighty zenith]

gay marriage

[raven brook]

nvm i get it

you're true

[long bloom]

reigning my yharim's

[tropic oak]

fr

[raven brook]

REGN OF YHARIM IS NOT A PREEQ

[tropic oak]

LOL

reign of yharim is a sequel. we're having at it again

[night barn]

is it a sequel

[raven brook]

the horrors the horrors the horrors get out of my head get out of my head GET OTU OF MY HEAD

[mighty zenith]

reign of yharim 2 thats actually a prequel set in 1987

[night barn]

i am uninvolved in whatever happened

[long bloom]

[raven brook]

anyways

[night barn]

to make this such a touchy subject

[raven brook]

DoG consuming gods has not changed him in the slightest

[tropic oak]

though in all seriousness i could go for single / short-medium (hell, even longer) stories about pre-existing gods

[night barn]

just wanna know is it a sequel or a parallel story

[cloud ibex]

i like to imagine that the reason anahita left the abyss is because when silva was dumped in there she went "omg hiiii :D hello :D hiiii :D hello :D hiii :D hello :D hiiii :D" and anahita just got sick of her shit

[raven brook]

He dosen't get powers from the gods he eats or anything

[raven brook]

Neither

[night barn]

erm

[raven brook]

It's an adaptation of calamity's story in a different medium

[tropic oak]

thanks 4 the new headcanon

[cloud ibex]

you're welcome

[night barn]

so kinda parallel story

[raven brook]

i fw this

[night barn]

its just

the same story

but better

[brazen sorrel]

But what is DoG then?

[raven brook]

fuckass worm from the distortion

[brazen sorrel]

Devourer of dogs

[raven brook]

Being from another dimension (Kind Of)

[mighty zenith]

spongebob and squidward dynamic

i can get behind this

[cloud ibex]

you know what yeah kinda

[long bloom]

🔥

[tropic oak]

if i had to put my 2 cents in its a Take on Calamity under the umbrella

[night barn]

i made a story about a god of hope oc a while ago but it kinda sucked shit

[long bloom]

levi is patrick

[cloud ibex]

spongesilva and squidhita

[night barn]

but i might revisit it

[dusk laurel]

another believer

[tropic oak]

real shit

idk i just like to look and dig deeper when comes to individual characters over events

[night barn]

been a while since i did proper prose writing

[night barn]

agree

characters are the best part

of any story

for the most part

[tropic oak]

its also why im so very obsessed with the Xeroc Character™

[night barn]

theres some stories that do things a little differently but generally i find characters to be the most interesting

[dusk laurel]

i indulge way too much in good worldbuilding

i love interesting settings

[tropic oak]

they've got Something Cool Going On.

[night barn]

so far in cal a lot of the characters that interest me are kinda doomed to have no ingame exposition

because of

how it is right now

[brazen sorrel]

What is aerialite, why is it cursed and how defeating perforators uncurse it?

[night barn]

literally only really yharim has any real exposition because hes the one talking to you the whole time

[brazen sorrel]

Disenchanted*

[raven brook]

It being tied to evil2 is going to change

[mighty zenith]

ngl i had a vague idea of a a hypothetical god of comfort or so who became part of the hallow and is what gives the place a comfortable atmosphere

[raven brook]

Since evil2 is being moved to post moon lord

[tropic oak]

what characters in specific?

[brazen sorrel]

No way

[mighty zenith]

im pretty sure i had a dream where i tried writing a story about them and failed miserably

[raven brook]

Aerialite is connected to a character known as Vetrasyl, who was an auric dragon much like Yharon, but instead of holding the domain of Rebirth, he had the domain of Storms instead

We don't know much more beyond that

[brazen sorrel]

How'd we get harpy ring and early wings then

[raven brook]

Lore is unfinished

It being tied to evil2 is going to change

[dusk laurel]

reading comprehension devil

[tropic oak]

lol

[raven brook]

You'll enchant it by defeating Dragonfolly instead which is being moved to a sky boss and taking the current place of Evil2 in progression

[dusk laurel]

the evil fucking sky hummingbirds are eating all of my aerialite someone please help

[cloud ibex]

this is what became of the world after yharim killed the god of reading comprehension, slayer of the dragon of literacy

[brazen sorrel]

Sorry for lots of question, but what is dragonfolly, why it spawns a lot of little dragonfollies and why was it birb?.

[long bloom]

draconic offshoot

basically just dragons without auric souls

that's it

[night barn]

silva definitely, god of sacrifice, ravager and his cult, calamitas' experiences in azafure

[long bloom]

also we're all super autistic here we love questions

[night barn]

LOL true

im not a lore expert like some ppl here but its still fun

[tropic oak]

we have a bit on the gos

[night barn]

a bit yeah

itd be nice to have all this ingame

one day ...

[tropic oak]

ah, yeah

it will be eventually

[night barn]

surely

[brazen sorrel]

Who is yharim and why he is the main villain of calamity mod?

[long bloom]

oh uh

i suggest you read the doc for that one

first pin

[night barn]

for a quick summary

as far as i know

[brazen sorrel]

Ah ok

[night barn]

yharim is a guy who loves dragons and thinks theyre all sacred

so he hates the gods that are killing them and stealing their souls

[long bloom]

*not currently killing them, all the dragons besides yharon died centuries ago

[night barn]

the gods chucked him into lava along with the dragon he was supposed to kill because he refused to do it but the dragon saved him and then yharim went on to build a giant army and went on a hunt against the gods that ended up killjng like a quintillion people

is my understanding

[long bloom]

yeah

[night barn]

he did manage to kill most of the gods though

[long bloom]

he launched a hundred year crusade to kill all the gods

got most of em

then realized he couldn't get every single one and became so depressed he exiled himself

[brazen sorrel]

I started to read calamity mod lore doc and i got reminded of elden ring somehow...

[night barn]

there are lots of similarities

to elden ring and dark souls

guys my spotify playlist is at 1300 songs

gawd damn

1301 to be exact

😭

[long scaffold]

Murasama being so important is funny since it’s not canon

[night barn]

murasama is just the coolest weapon

have they added all the variants yet

[plucky juniper]

once again, i think the murasama should be de-referenced and become its own awesome iconic sword

stop cribbing from the fame of others and build your own fame

[long bloom]

no

[plucky juniper]

cowardly red sword

[night barn]

its getting there

[pulsar ocean]

it’s NEVER becoming more iconic than the funny Brazilian guy sword

[night barn]

but i agree

[pulsar ocean]

Be realistic

[night barn]

well but it doesnt need to be

its not iconic in cal because its a reference

[plucky juniper]

it doesnt matter

[long bloom]

yes it is

[pulsar ocean]

Yes it is

[long bloom]

that's legitimately the only reason

[night barn]

i dont think so

[long bloom]

you are incorrect

[night barn]

the fact its a reference helped it get there but only really because of jetstream sam shenanigans

it definitely became its own thing

[long scaffold]

I agree, though I worry some would explode because their funny red sword is gone
I’d make it Arsenal themed

[pulsar ocean]

Why is the post scal summoner ring thingy not iconic then, it’s the same principle of attacking

[plucky juniper]

regretably yeahhhh

[night barn]

muramasa has jetstream sam legacy and also used to be broken

and is just cooler

[long bloom]

the functionality was literally just red arkahlis when it was added

[night barn]

its a historical weapon

[long bloom]

nobody cares about that part

[plucky juniper]

i dont think historicalness is too necessary of a factor in keeping something in jupiter

[night barn]

i never said it was

thats a different discussion

[long scaffold]

Otherwise eyeball Cal would still be around

[plucky juniper]

just because dog is a worm boss doesnt mean he has to be literally a basic worm boss

[night barn]

thats entirely unrelated to my point

[plucky juniper]

.

[night barn]

im talking about why its iconic in the first place

[long bloom]

guys i think they mean irl history

[night barn]

its iconic because of its history in the mod

[long bloom]

ah

[night barn]

not saying it needs to remain the same

[long bloom]

something being old doesn't automatically make it iconic

[agile matrix]

DoG

[long bloom]

there are plenty of weapons way older than it

[night barn]

thats also not what im saying

[long bloom]

automatically

[night barn]

mura is different because its been breaking the game for years

jetstream sam plagued the game

for years

[agile matrix]

yharim, lorewise

[night barn]

spam click

[long bloom]

that's a metal gear reference