lore-discussion

[dusk laurel]

enemies, a gauntlet type event, items, quests probably, etc

[abstract hedge]

Yharim is way after

[split mortar]

Yeah yharim is after

[limpid saddle]

im talking about update reases

[errant swallow]

is there any boss thats gonna be added before yharim

[split mortar]

No

[abstract hedge]

There's still a ton of other things to do loke boss reworks, profaned biome, and perennial.

[abstract hedge]

No

Don't expect him any time soon though.

[vestal badge]

is the abyss width increase in sso or later

[limpid saddle]

Thats what the (????????????) is accounting for you fool

[pliant ruin]

HELLO IT IS ME JANEWEAVER22402

[dusk laurel]

later probably

[pliant ruin]

I WILL EXPLAIN SOON I JUST WOKE UP SO I HAVE TO CHECK UP ON ALL MY NOTIFICATIONS AND SUCH

ALSO COOL NEW PROFILE PICTURE MELN GUN

STORM WEAVER IS A REALLY COOL CHARACTER AND HES ACTUALLY WAY MORE THA NJUTS SMALL DUMB WORM HES REALLY COOL AND AWESOME I PROMISE I DO NOT KNOW WHY I AM SHOUTING I SHOULD stop that actually

[split mortar]

Im normal about siffrin

https://tenor.com/view/in-stars-and-time-isat-frits-siffrin-gif-13096790248392821853

[abstract hedge]

Well you hadn't said the stuff after so I didn't know what the fuck you meant by a random message going (????????????????).

[spare pier]

Karkat speech bubble

[limpid saddle]

you're real asf for that i respect the vision as another desperate clinger to a character with basically no lore that isnt inferred, implied or speculative that alot of people think is just some mindless monster

[pliant ruin]

potential likers 🤝

[split mortar]

What am i

[dusk laurel]

the terrarian is you

[split mortar]

I see

[mighty zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-cats-cat-petterz-deltarune-cat-cat-dancing-gif-16660263711090646804

[limpid saddle]

now all you need to is create your own design that will be inevitably decanonized when the actual redesign releases

[fleet wedge]

No

True
That's why I'm never doing it

[pliant ruin]

i just abduct tofu's weaver design as my own because its my favorite fucking thing ever

[mighty zenith]

we need a calamity yellow

[pliant ruin]

best part? tofu is a dev so theres a non zero chance it gets adapted as canon hehehheehhe

[limpid saddle]

🫡

[vestal badge]

if you think about it, siffrin is loop, which kinda sounds like lupus, therefore siffrin has lupus

[mighty zenith]

actually wait.

thats just roy

7 years of development included

[limpid saddle]

so thats the secret....

[mighty zenith]

reign of yellow

[pliant ruin]

ANYWAYS to explain weaver's relationship with DoG and how weaver is seemingly one of the only things DoG actually loses his composure when talking about

[limpid saddle]

i need to get on the mod team STAT specifically for Calamitas Clone & nothing else

[pliant ruin]

Read Weaver's lore whisper

Devourer, for some reason

is Really Uncomfortable with Weaver's existence

Which is saying alot because like

Devourer is the most arrogant piece of shit ever. He would never willingly shown any sort of insecurity towards anything or anyone unless it was Really Fucking Concerning towards him for whatever reason

[limpid saddle]

I wonder if it's a fear of his potential or a fear of his independance from the Distortion hivemind

[pliant ruin]

It might be both

Personally, i frankly think its both

[limpid saddle]

Devourer co-dependant canon?

[pliant ruin]

I think Weaver, due to not being part of Noxus's evil ass hive mind, has the potential to Really Fuck Their Plans Up somehow

Yharim notes that

Weaver and Devourer have "similar powers" or something like that

Devourer's main power we know of is absorbing essence, which goes to Noxus

[limpid saddle]

good thing for noxus the terrarian caved in it's skull with a rock

[pliant ruin]

but what about Weaver, who isn't connected to Noxus anymore? Where does that essence go to?

[dusk laurel]

[pliant ruin]

Weaver does have electric powers

[split mortar]

Weaver eats sky creatures and despite being weird distortion creature has powers of our world

[pliant ruin]

Would be interesting if he got those from the essence of a certain dragon wouldn't it

[limpid saddle]

it's a rune of kos boss I know you can TECHNICALLY skip it but also no you cant shut up

[split mortar]

Of the sky related stuff

[pliant ruin]

Also dw dw there'll be a option to spare weaver trust me trust me on this one turst me (coping)

[dusk laurel]

[limpid saddle]

i feel that heavy

it is really unlikely we'll be able to spare c.c no matter how much hearsay goes around about it

because like

what would she even do

[errant swallow]

wait

where is silva

[abstract hedge]

I wish...

[pliant ruin]

she becomes a pirate

[abstract hedge]

Abyss

[limpid saddle]

in the dirt

[errant swallow]

the lore doc says she sits at the bottom of the abyss

[pliant ruin]

this is a joke only a very niche group of people understands

[abstract hedge]

Rejuvenation pod at the bottom of the abyss.

[pliant ruin]

Yeah she's kinda dead

[errant swallow]

can we see her in game

[pliant ruin]

But like not

Since

Y'know

[abstract hedge]

It's not ingame but iirc is planned to be.

[pliant ruin]

Immortal

[limpid saddle]

no

[dusk laurel]

i know!!!

[limpid saddle]

abyss background too dark

[abstract hedge]

Not as of now, maybe eventually though.

[split mortar]

We will eventually

[pliant ruin]

She'll be able to be "seen" ingame as a Green Bean eventually

[split mortar]

She the green pod rn
Just not in game

[dusk laurel]

the pea pod

[split mortar]

Cause

Outdated mod

[limpid saddle]

I dont get it but i understand the context & thats enough...

[dusk laurel]

ggg join roycord

[limpid saddle]

oh right reign of yharim

what even is the concept of the game really

[dusk laurel]

@pliant ruin

rise

[mighty zenith]

yharim reigns

[limpid saddle]

i dont know anything about it other than 'calamity fan game!!!! oooooh!!!!!!'

[mighty zenith]

of

[pliant ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/mahoraga-jjk-fushiguro-megumi-gif-14478755606605289755

crispy gif

anyways

reign of yharim is like calamity mod's story but if it wasnt a terraria mod and instead a fully independent game metroidvania

[limpid saddle]

metroidvania????

bit of a weird angle to take but ok

[mighty zenith]

i mean.

why would it be

because terraria is a sandbox?

[errant swallow]

was silva at the abyss before she was banished there or nah?

[mighty zenith]

its a way to explore the world in a different way

[limpid saddle]

she was once but she got better & left

[split mortar]

She was around doing stuff

[leaden bridge]

reign of yharim shouldve been a half a billion dollar budget souls like game with writing by hideo kojima

[pliant ruin]

It has the same general story progression as the mod proper (not a prequel. not a prequel. its not a pre
but it takes some creative liberties such as 1. having an actual protagonist rather than Terrarian You Blank Slate with their own backstory and personality
2. Not having any of vanilla's content (duh)
3. Having some original new content in the form of some new characters and lore to fill in the gaps left by vanilla's more important stuff and also fit in the different plot structure of actually having a story you're actually following rather than Sadnbox

And yeah its a metroidvania because ngl making it just Terraria 2 would be the dumbest choice ever

And it used to be that at one point but then we all a greed wait that's Fucking Stupid, Actually

Why would you want to play the Calamity Fangame if it's just Calamity

It's like. the same thing but with a different coat of paint

[dusk laurel]

if i want terraria 2 i would either have to sacrifice relogic in a ritual or play tmod (doesnt really count)

[limpid saddle]

I guess I hear 'calamity fangame' & i think 'character action'

[pliant ruin]

• not being a sandbox allows us to have the story at much more focus

[limpid saddle]

like a really low-budget platinum game

[dusk laurel]

😭

[pliant ruin]

explore my serene forests

[dusk laurel]

the blight

[limpid saddle]

so is it spritework, 2d animation or 3d models

[split mortar]

Heese how would serene forest taste

[dusk laurel]

digital art

with animations

sprites arent just pixel art

[limpid saddle]

digital art with animations

the most descriptive anything has been

ever

[dusk laurel]

im gonna broil you

[limpid saddle]

gimme a second i need to reduce these fajitas

[dusk laurel]

oklay but seriously if you just joined roycord for lie .2 seconds you can immediately see the artstyle/art direction

[pliant ruin]

yeah we have an actual like defined artstyle taht we try to follow

theres a style guide in the dev server and new artists usually have to practice a bit yto get used to it and stuff

[agile matrix]

man i wonder why i said "calamity has an artstyle"

golly ge

[leaden bridge]

What if instead od reign of yharim it was uhhhhhhhh pane of àaaaaaaaaaa

Calamity style

[agile matrix]

the calamity style

someone said "if the devs like the sprite they'll add it"

this implies that i could draw a scribble and add an hallucinogen into it

and boom, its there

[leaden bridge]

calamity style

[split mortar]

The devs have standards

[agile matrix]

see thats the hallucinogens job

[leaden bridge]

Not with an hallucinogen

[agile matrix]

okay so a refined scribble

[leaden bridge]

no we mean like they don't have standards on hallucinogens

[vagrant wyvern]

hi

hi

hello

true fat evil stoopid

[abstract hedge]

What on earth is your username

[vagrant wyvern]

@zenith geode

hi

hi

[zenith geode]

really now

[soft flame]

is this a reign of yharim reference

[zenith geode]

this is what you decided to do with your time

[split mortar]

@pliant ruin

[split mortar]

Yes

Subject is the mc

[soft flame]

i see

all i remember of them is they appeared to have a prosthetic arm

nothing else

[split mortar]

Yeah they have prosthetic arm

[soft flame]

the fact that they're called "the subject" makes me think draedon is involved

could just be me

[split mortar]

@pliant ruin reign of yhairm

[pliant ruin]

Yeah it's not much of a secret that draedon is involved in some way like come on now

robot arm

The Subject

that's literally a surprise to nobody ever

[agile matrix]

reign of yharim is actually fake and is called reign of draedon because the devs love lying

source: you just GOTTA trust me on this one.

[split mortar]

Its true

[pulsar ocean]

so the reign of yharimian is NOT me...

[split mortar]

Correct

[rotund shore]

L M A O.

[pulsar ocean]

is the terrarian still me if i choose for it to be the guy from reign of yharim

[noble falcon]

It’s a shame the calamity story takes place so far back in the past
We can’t have Draedon being cracked at every video game ever

[mint kernel]

where does the power of scal come from?

[split mortar]

Brimstone elemental is the case

[agile matrix]

do we know what makes draedon run or is it just "sciency shit"

[light linden]

I just realized

elementals can be attuned to like dragons

[night barn]

accurate

[light linden]

well

do we know if that's something unique to calamitas?

ik braelor has heavy ties to silva but is that due to her being a god or a elemental?

[night barn]

i don't think calamitas is attuned to any dragons

[light linden]

@spare pier you know the answer of that?

[light linden]

I was not saying that

she's attuned to the brimstone elemental

[night barn]

oh is this true

that'd make sense

[spare pier]

What?

[light linden]

this

[spare pier]

I have no idea why that even matters what

[night barn]

i read messages like a teenage girl so I thought you saying "elementals can be attuned to, like, dragons" aka elementals can attune to dragons

[spare pier]

Are you asking if Braelor worships Silva for being an Elemental or a Goddess?

[night barn]

not actually elementals can be attuned to in the same way as dragons

anyway i think silva just likes braelor or something

[small hound]

@foggy tiger draedon is quite literally

the smartest scientist robot in the lore

[foggy tiger]

Yes and he is also true neutral (kinda)

[small hound]

im pretty damn sure he knows more about how livable the sulpherous sea is compared to you

[foggy tiger]

He wouldn't care about how to do it

[small hound]

his chaotic lawful bs or whatever has nothing to do with it

[foggy tiger]

He'd just say it's not worth it to do

[small hound]

i dont think you understand that this is established in the lore

[foggy fern]

🍿

[small hound]

and applying any sort of real world logic is irrelevant and just makes you annoying when im trying to say something

no shit humans live everywhere

[foggy tiger]

It's also only in the "current present" draedon ain't always right

If he didn't need to improve shit constantly, then yes. He just learns from mistakes

Really well

[small hound]

so you expect me to take you

someone who clearly doesnt even know the lore

over draedon

an established lore character

who, canonically, knows everything about the sulpherous sea because hes the one who dumped nuclear waste there

[foggy tiger]

He ain't omniscient (I think that's the knowledge one)

[small hound]

youre being outsmarted by a fictional robot

[foggy tiger]

Needless to say that's just wrong in terms of he knows absolutely everything about what will happen

[foggy fern]

Can we both agree Calamity fucking sucks at storytelling and be friends

[small hound]

its literally cut and dry

sulpherous sea will never be livable and it never was

[foggy tiger]

He isn't omniscient

He physically can't be with how he acts

So no he doesnt

He may know a lot

[small hound]

yes he does

[foggy tiger]

But he doesn't know "all"

[small hound]

he literally caused the sulpherous seas current problem

what are you talking about

[foggy tiger]

Yeah and that doesn't mean he knows EXACTLY how everything will happen????

[small hound]

i didnt say that

[foggy tiger]

Think about that logically for 2 seconds

Yes you did!!

[small hound]

nor does that have anything to do with the sulpherous sea

holy shit

[foggy tiger]

E

What??

[small hound]

he LITERALLY is the reason it will never be habitable

[foggy tiger]

Yes he caused it

Doesn't mean

[small hound]

what dont you get

[foggy tiger]

He knows 100% it won't be habital for humans forever

[small hound]

its like trying to hammer a professional grade nail through a brick wall made of tungsten

[foggy tiger]

Humans are smart creatures end of the day

[small hound]

shit ton of nuclear waste

acidic rains

extremely hostile wildlife

doesnt seem to be changing

[foggy tiger]

Do you know how radioactive decay works?

[small hound]

as it was already hostile predraedon

do you know theres an abyss right underneath the sulpherous seas

[foggy tiger]

Yes

[small hound]

with the brimstone crags still sending smog

[foggy tiger]

And I ain't saying that's a problem

[small hound]

through the abyss

yes you are

[foggy tiger]

I'm saying that you can live in the sulfur sea

[small hound]

youre saying humans are so smart, eventually itll be livable

no it wont

[foggy tiger]

Not you can live in the abyss

[small hound]

the ABYSS affects the sulpherous sea

[foggy tiger]

The water pressure alone makes it impossible

[foggy fern]

I can’t even tell who’s arguing what this is amazing

[small hound]

brimstone crags made it unlivable in the first place

[foggy tiger]

It's fun :3

[small hound]

draedon made it worse

this is established lore

and not something you can headcanon over just to be "right"

[foggy tiger]

Yes and "worse" doesn't mean "impossible"

[small hound]

what dont you get

[foggy fern]

I headcanon calamity lore is good

[small hound]

yes but when youre trying to argue over why im wrong when im quoting literal facts

established facts

then its not good

[foggy tiger]

It's not literal facts is the problem

[small hound]

it literally is

let me pull up the wiki

and all the lore pieces concerning the sulpherous sea

[foggy tiger]

Just cause draedon says it doesn't make it literal facts 100%

Draedon has been wrong ab a lot of shit

[small hound]

i think ill take the fictional robots opinion over yours

[foggy tiger]

Yes is he right a lot?

But he is also NOT omniscient

What do you not understand ab that

[small hound]

what do you not understand about established lore

and how the lore works

[foggy fern]

Someone ping a writer and get them to settle this

[small hound]

your headcanon is not canon

[foggy tiger]

And he isn't omniscient

That's fact too

[small hound]

the abyss currently makes the sulpherous seas unlivable regardless of draedon

[foggy tiger]

Why would he experiment ever

[small hound]

like seriously

[foggy tiger]

If he knew everything

[small hound]

its IN THE LORE

[foggy tiger]

Like what?

[small hound]

the sulpherous seas was never habitable even before draedon

[foggy tiger]

Do you know what omniscient means?

[small hound]

and azafure is still sending smog

[foggy tiger]

Really quick

[small hound]

what dont you get

[foggy tiger]

What does it mean

[small hound]

i never said anything about omniscient

god like

[foggy tiger]

Knows everything that will happen and ever will happen

[small hound]

i speak english as a first language, you using words i never said anything about

doesnt make you smarter

[foggy tiger]

Your entire argument can only exist if he is omniscient

[random mulch]

what even is the argument

[small hound]

my entire argument literally exists because its the LORE

it is the GAMES LORE

it is FACTUAL LORE

WRITTEN

by ACTUAL DEVS

[foggy tiger]

Congrats draedon said it! Must mean it's 100% true forever onwards!!

(only works if he is omniscient)

[small hound]

This seaside has never been pleasant, though it has seen far better days.
Incessant fumes rising from the industry of Azafure inundate the water with caustic ions.
Despite this, the hardy life adapted to the new environment. No doubt aided by Silva as she burrowed through to the underworld.
Long considered uninhabitable, its further deterioration led Draedon to designate it as a dumping ground.
Years of careless waste disposal has now left the coast's transformation irreversible.

[foggy fern]

Thats Yharim…

[small hound]

This seaside has never been pleasant, though it has seen far better days.
Incessant fumes rising from the industry of Azafure inundate the water with caustic ions.
Despite this, the hardy life adapted to the new environment. No doubt aided by Silva as she burrowed through to the underworld.
Long considered uninhabitable, its further deterioration led Draedon to designate it as a dumping ground.
Years of careless waste disposal has now left the coast's transformation irreversible.

[foggy tiger]

Makes it worse

[small hound]

This seaside has never been pleasant, though it has seen far better days.
Incessant fumes rising from the industry of Azafure inundate the water with caustic ions.
Despite this, the hardy life adapted to the new environment. No doubt aided by Silva as she burrowed through to the underworld.
Long considered uninhabitable, its further deterioration led Draedon to designate it as a dumping ground.
Years of careless waste disposal has now left the coast's transformation irreversible.

READ

it was never habitable

it will never be habitable

it does not require draedon to be correct

[foggy tiger]

And I ain't saying that it won't be permanently scarred

[small hound]

it is written lore by the actual devs

no, youre saying itll be habitable

but it wont

because the writers said it will never be

it is irreversible

[foggy tiger]

But JUST CAUSE draedon said it doesn't mean it's 100% fact that no one ever onwards will be able to live there if they tried

[small hound]

it is not draedon saying this

this isnt even the draedons lore part

this is the actual lore for the sulpherous sea

[foggy tiger]

So your original point is wrong?

[foggy tiger]

You started by saying draedon said so

[small hound]

no its right

[foggy tiger]

But now he didn't say so

[small hound]

i just havent put the sentence in the chat

[foggy tiger]

Hmmmm

[random mulch]

ok ok

what's even going on

[small hound]

meme has to be right

and enforce his headcanon

[foggy fern]

Just sit back

[random mulch]

just explain simply what the argument is about

[small hound]

Even before I used the sea as a disposal site for nuclear waste, it was never a pleasant place for your kind. Sulphuric fumes from Azafure's industry rose through the Abyss and came to pollute the sea far above. Most of the calm, docile life that once flourished here was utterly demolished by such a hostile change.
The new life that emerged many years later via mutation and other adaptation allowed for studying how life can adjust to such harsh conditions, including ever-increasing levels of radiation. Though I did not value such data at first, familiarizing myself with the increased tolerances of adapted organic beings proved to be essential at several points during my development of the Plague.
If you are concerned about the sea's current state, you are far from the first. You may put your worries to rest, as I have no plans to further irradiate the area for the foreseeable future. Indeed, my actions have already been met with scathing criticism and uproar.
The Godseeker's bureaucrats would frequently remind me of how the public had organized to revolt against my advancement of science. From what they knew, they were justified. They feared what calamities further science could wreak upon Terraria, due to the destruction brought upon the Sulphurous Sea.
I thought such retaliation to be absurd, but it appears not all can see reason. Despite my infamy and legacy, technological advancements continue to be made by many other scientists across Terraria, even if the subject continues to provoke unfounded fear mongering.
Regardless, if I deem it necessary, I possess the means to simply rebuild the Sulphur Sea from the bedrock up. Restoring it to its pristine status would be a trivial matter and a testament to science's creative potential.

[foggy fern]

Wall

[foggy tiger]

Sulfur sea being completely unlivable forever onwards is just factually incorrect. With how humans are they'd be able to make a settlement of some kind with technology

[small hound]

cross referencing draedon to the sulpherous sea lore item

hes not wrong at all

[foggy tiger]

Yes will it be scarred?

But

Last time I checked

[small hound]

youre applying real life logic to a video game

thats why youre wrong in the first place

[foggy tiger]

We can live in unlivable conditions too

[small hound]

humans cannot live there

[foggy fern]

Actually!

[small hound]

it is literally stated in the lore

[foggy tiger]

That's wrong

[small hound]

it is not wrong

[foggy fern]

I have a question!

[small hound]

it is lore

Long considered uninhabitable, its further deterioration led Draedon to designate it as a dumping ground.
Years of careless waste disposal has now left the coast's transformation irreversible.

[foggy tiger]

Yes right this second

[foggy fern]

Chat I have a question

[foggy tiger]

They cant

[small hound]

im just going to spam this

[foggy fern]

WHY do we care

[small hound]

for everything you try to say

[random mulch]

don't

[small hound]

because it literally proves you wrong

2 sentences prove your entire point of "humans win" wrong

and theyre not even from draedon

[foggy tiger]

Idk where it started from but I just said humans can live in many unlivable conditions and they just kept screaming I was wrong cause draedon said so

[small hound]

its from the actual lore item

[random mulch]

i don't think it's ever been stated that there has been a human presence in the sulphurous sea

[small hound]

yeah theres never been

because of azafure

draedon made it worse

[foggy tiger]

Yeah but it is possible

[small hound]

but it was never livable

[foggy tiger]

Main point there

[foggy fern]

But why does this matter its a hypothetical

[small hound]

Long considered uninhabitable, its further deterioration led Draedon to designate it as a dumping ground.
Years of careless waste disposal has now left the coast's transformation irreversible.

[foggy tiger]

With technology

[small hound]

it is not hypothetical

that is why this is an argument

[random mulch]

so it's kinda up in the air if humans could survive there

[light linden]

I doubt that

[random mulch]

it's not right or wrong, just inconclusive

[small hound]

Even before I used the sea as a disposal site for nuclear waste, it was never a pleasant place for your kind. Sulphuric fumes from Azafure's industry rose through the Abyss and came to pollute the sea far above.

[light linden]

ik

[small hound]

not anymore

[plucky juniper]

isnt this a line from yharim

[small hound]

Long considered uninhabitable, its further deterioration led Draedon to designate it as a dumping ground.
Years of careless waste disposal has now left the coast's transformation irreversible.

no

[light linden]

but people are also very resilient

[small hound]

oh wait yes

sorry

[foggy tiger]

Me when yharim never gets facts wrong cause I said so

[light linden]

and also technological innovations could change that

[small hound]

me when i completely disregard the developers of the story and think im right

[foggy tiger]

Me when the developers don't think of every single fact ever

[light linden]

ok long story short

[small hound]

okay?

its still correct

it is THEIR story not yours

[light linden]

it's been well stated that yharim is not a reliable source

[small hound]

again, you are headcanon

[small hound]

2 cross references

[foggy fern]

I cannot imagine caring this much over the lore of CALAMITY MOD

[small hound]

that is all it takes

[foggy tiger]

You're also completely ignoring that humans have brains

[small hound]

youre also completely ignoring the fact that the wildlife is extremely hostile

[light linden]

he flat out omits or barely mentions topics that aren't good for his cause (convincing the player character to finish the crusade)

[foggy tiger]

With how much shit is in the world of calamity, given enough time, they can progress to very very high level tech

[small hound]

and has acid rains pretty much constantly

[random mulch]

i mean draedon himself contradicts yharim's last point

he says he could easily just rebuild the entire sulphurous sea to its prime condition

[light linden]

people in calamity live in literal hell

[small hound]

but he has no reason to

[foggy tiger]

They were trying to state even draedon can't too earlier on :p

[small hound]

he says he could, not that he wants to

[foggy fern]

Even the channel regulars would never get this heated LMAO

[foggy tiger]

"can" means others can too

[small hound]

you never even said this

[foggy tiger]

Given it takes farrrrrr longer

[small hound]

so dont even try

[foggy tiger]

It's cause my own point was also right anyways

[small hound]

so youre comparing some random scientist

to draedon

[light linden]

people are extremely resilient and when given something they can't overcome on their own

[foggy tiger]

Given time, yes

[light linden]

they invent ways to overcome them

[small hound]

youre just wrong, what is your issue

[light linden]

e.g. airlocks in space

[small hound]

the lore is right there and you ignore it

[foggy tiger]

Humans are down right scary when it comes to inventing

[random mulch]

i mean tbf people did live in the place where the fumes originated from

[foggy tiger]

Is draedon faster at it?

Yes

[small hound]

if it takes an almost god-like robot to fix the sulpherous sea

[foggy tiger]

CAN humans do it?

Given time, yes

[small hound]

then im pretty sure humans cant do it

[light linden]

it doesn't need to be fixed to be livable

[random mulch]

and it was in hell so the fumes didn't have much place to go

[small hound]

yes it quite literally does

[small hound]

they did, they went up

[light linden]

I could think of more than a few ways to live there

[foggy tiger]

Takes god like beings to survive a tsar bomba

[small hound]

through the abyss

[foggy tiger]

Humans can build those

[small hound]

im out

[plucky juniper]

yknow who else can survive the tsar bomba

[small hound]

headcanon wins

[light linden]

radiation can be dealt with by plating the outer layers of the home with the right plating

[foggy tiger]

Anyone with a revive :3

But yeah

Needs preparation

To survive out right

Face blank explosion

[small hound]

forgetting the wildlife?

[foggy tiger]

Me when you can bring in Ur own wildlife

[small hound]

nice animals

[small hound]

what does that even have to do with it

[light linden]

depending on the composition of the acid it could also be countered by the right plating

[light linden]

no

[foggy tiger]

It's how they reverse desertification

[foggy fern]

Solaris you are making yourself look crazy by caring so much but Im here for it

[light linden]

I just haven't gotten to that part yet

[random mulch]

true

[small hound]

that is not how they reverse desertification

[foggy tiger]

Ignoring the acid part

[small hound]

that is SEEDS

and DIRT

not animals

the animals come later

[foggy tiger]

Remove the bad shit to move shit in

So that shit can grow again

[cloud ibex]

what the fuck are you people arguing about

[light linden]

alternatively they could live underground

[random mulch]

something something sulphurous sea

[foggy tiger]

Tbf that'd be worse cause abyss

[small hound]

sulpherous sea is uninhabitable

[light linden]

solaris is saying the sulphurous sea is permanently uninhabitable

[foggy fern]

Solaris is tweaking

[small hound]

and will never be due to draedons irreversible nuclear dumping

[light linden]

you don't have to go that deep

[plucky juniper]

hey be more respectful ya'll, i think it could be genuinely interesting to figure out how nature can reclaim an irradiated hellhole like the sulphur sea

[small hound]

draedon himself is the only reference we have to someone who could repair the damage

[foggy tiger]

Oh I know but surface of terraria world is a weird thing

[light linden]

and not all of the sea's underground is the abyss

[cloud ibex]

according to draedon he can in theory fix it

[light linden]

but back to what I was saying

[foggy tiger]

T1 abyss is a maybe? But idk ab below that

[small hound]

he doesnt show interest in doing so

[cloud ibex]

and honestly i wouldn't put it past him

[small hound]

but it would just be for science

he probably could

[foggy tiger]

If draedon can

[light linden]

ok I'm just gonna put this in one message

[cloud ibex]

yeah cause he can still learn more things from it right now

[small hound]

but that doesnt mean that humans can

[foggy tiger]

Humans can, given time

[small hound]

draedon is a super powerful robot

[foggy tiger]

Yes

[small hound]

whos entire life goal is devoted to scientific endevours

you are comparing normal ass humans

[foggy tiger]

And humans are super powerful when given the resources

[plucky juniper]

If you ask me, the fact that the sulphur sea already has life that is pretty well adapted to its insanity is probably an indication that nature could easily reverse course on the whole thing

[small hound]

to an A.M robot

[random mulch]

if there's a will, there's a way

[foggy fern]

Did the goal post just shift

[foggy tiger]

And humans are thousands of years of combined knowledge???

[small hound]

life that has adapted to the sulpherous sea

not humans

[plucky juniper]

and besides. if draedon KNOWS theres a way to fix it, i would not be surprised if people could stumble upon that as well

[foggy tiger]

It's possible is the main thing

Maybe not right now

But definitely in the future

[small hound]

oh that must be why the gods were so smart and powerful

[foggy tiger]

As long as humans don't get wiped out

[small hound]

being born a human and then eating an auric soul

[random mulch]

what are you even saying anymore

[small hound]

clearly they didnt know everything

[foggy tiger]

Yes

But they will learn

[small hound]

billions died due to yharim

[foggy tiger]

Over multiple life times

[small hound]

setting back possible thousands of years of history

as genocides normally do at that scale

[foggy tiger]

If there is enough to repopulate

There is a way

Unless humans die out

They could sort it

[random mulch]

the fumes from azafure have stopped being made so those would already clear out over time by themselves

[small hound]

everything youve said so far is "could" "can" and "possibly"

[foggy fern]

So this was a lie

[small hound]

yes

[foggy tiger]

Yes and that's the entire point???

[small hound]

[foggy tiger]

Yes right now they cant

[small hound]

because youre wrong and applying headcanon

[foggy tiger]

I have said that many times

But

[small hound]

the established lore is right there

[foggy tiger]

It's NOT impossible

[small hound]

ive said that many times

[foggy tiger]

To heal the sulfur sea

[small hound]

to heal the sulphur sea it takes literally draedon

[foggy tiger]

What don't you understand about that

[small hound]

showing minor interest

[foggy tiger]

Right this second yes

[small hound]

humans cannot compare to draedon

[foggy tiger]

But I have been saying in the future

[light linden]

The radiation can be dealt with by plating the outer layers of the home with the right plating. The acid rains can be dealt with also by the right plating depending on the composition of the acid or by simply living underground. The hostile wildlife can be dealt with by simple defensive structures like walls, by having a large enough population that you could effectively fight back against most attackers, or by yet again living underground and blocking off the entrance

[small hound]

the lore is right there

and it says irreversible

[foggy tiger]

The main problem is water

[small hound]

and if we take draedons word

only repairable by him

[foggy tiger]

But purification exists

[small hound]

name something that can possibly purify the fumes out of the ocean

[light linden]

would it be hard as hell to live there?

yes

is it possible?

yes

[foggy tiger]

Irreversible = no one can

[small hound]

no

[foggy tiger]

Draedon can

[small hound]

no HUMAN can

[foggy tiger]

Meaning not irreversible

[small hound]

no HUMAN

what dont you get

[foggy tiger]

Does it say that?

[small hound]

does it imply that?

yes

[light linden]

that depends on what is specifically in the fumes

[foggy tiger]

Exactly does it say "no human can"

[small hound]

keep in mind

draedon doesnt even talk to yharim anymore

[foggy tiger]

If humans can have the knowledge of draedon, could humans do it?

[small hound]

dude has deserted yharim

[foggy fern]

This whole argument was spawned by bad writing lmfao

[small hound]

and as far as he knows

[light linden]

is it co2? sulphur?

[small hound]

he doesnt think even draedon can fix it

draedon thinks he can and hes the only basis we have for that

other than that, no one else can fix it

it is not possbile

[foggy tiger]

Oh wow the depressed guy who didn't study much science thinks it's impossible

[small hound]

to reverse hundreds of years of nuclear damage

[foggy tiger]

150 years ago people though flight was impossible

[small hound]

as well as azafure pollution

[random mulch]

probably sulphur considering... yknow.

[small hound]

again

[foggy tiger]

I guess airplanes don't exist

[small hound]

applying real world logic

to a VIDEO GAME

[foggy tiger]

Humans are humans

[split mortar]

Feels like a strawman argument there
Be better

[foggy tiger]

Last time I checked

[small hound]

bringing up the airplanes

for no reason

just to further your point about a VIDEO GAME

makes you stupid

[foggy tiger]

True I'm just multitasking feeding animals

[light linden]

you started doing that first

[small hound]

i did not

[cloud ibex]

ok i'm cutting it here

[small hound]

i never brought real life references

[cloud ibex]

everyone shut up

you're getting nowhere

[foggy fern]

Hi joe

[cloud ibex]

hello 343489861082284034

[small hound]

crazy

[cloud ibex]

if you wanna keep arguing go to dms or something

just don't do it here

[foggy tiger]

Oki

[light linden]

who's that if I may ask?

[night barn]

that's just my friend eric

[cloud ibex]

can check that for yourself by typing @foggy fern

[light linden]

OH IT'S A USER ID

[foggy fern]

Im doxxed now

[cloud ibex]

that's the joke yes

[small hound]

this isnt lore

[random mulch]

ok moderator

[cerulean sluice]

Can someone explain me fast who is Yarhim

[foggy fern]

Potential Man

[pliant ruin]

Main villain of the mod, guy who started a genocidal crusade to kill all gods as a way to take revenge for them having killed the dragons to get their powers, wants all gods dead regardless of their morals

[foggy fern]

Potential Man

[pliant ruin]

Also something sure did happen on this chat

By all means

I'm not gonna bother figuring out what though

[foggy fern]

It was egomania

Basically

[pliant ruin]

you guys fw ron perlman voicing xeroc

buddy of mine introduced me to the idea and now im a truther

thats xerocs voice in my head

[foggy fern]

Yea sure

[pliant ruin]

its funny because you go from the lich with his ghoulish macabre evil villainous monologue to xeroc watering his flowers and enjoying the weather

maybe taking a hit from a blunt while he's at it

[night barn]

Who's Ron Perlman

😨

[pliant ruin]

hes the guy who voiced lich adventure time

also deathstroke from the teen titans show

[night barn]

oh i see

[light linden]

hi cheese

want a bnnuy?

[pliant ruin]

sure

[icy veldt]

And the intro cutscene/ending slides narrator guy in Fallout: New Vegas

[pliant ruin]

also the guild leader from monster hunter world i think

hes voiced a few

lich is probably his most iconic role though

[mighty zenith]

actually yeah

[night barn]

i still haven't seen adventure time

so idrk

come aloongg witthh mee

[mighty zenith]

perlman with a monotone voice is actually pretty close to how i thought about xeroc's voice being like

chilling but also kind of calming

[foggy fern]

I love teen titans go

[icy veldt]

I kinda want to know who would voice Permafrost tbh. I imagine him sounding like Keith Szarabajka, who also voiced Captain Diomedes in the Dawn of War II expansions, but only because Permafrost had slowly grown a disillusionment with Yharim vaguely similar to that which had suddenly shattered the faith of Diomedes in his liege, Chapter Master Kyras

[foggy fern]

Keith David

[small hound]

jack black as the terrarian

[night barn]

Hell yeah

Seth rogan as permafrost

Awkwafina as calamitas

It's all coming together

[pliant ruin]

awkwafina as calamitas might kill me

i think im gonna drop dead

[night barn]

Chris pratt as yharim

Actually swap yharim and terrarian

Jack black as yharim chris pratt as the terrarian

[small hound]

jack black as the live action yharim

[night barn]

🔥🖊️

[small hound]

this is brainrot territory

[night barn]

Shit my pen is on fire

THE SCRIPT NOOOO

ITS BURNING AWAYYY

[small hound]

youre burning down the kitchen this is for real lore

[icy veldt]

I don't even know who that is

[cloud ibex]

cheese as calamitas

[small hound]

nah calamitas should be like zendaya or something

[night barn]

YOU 🫵 👨‍🦲 as the terrarian

[dusk laurel]

[night barn]

Yeah that's right i made you bald

[small hound]

timothy chalameet as the desert scourge

[icy veldt]

Sean Bean as the Guide

[small hound]

entire movie is pop culture references to mgrr and random things from donor items

directed by hideo kojima

[mighty zenith]

john goodman as yharim

[small hound]

no we need jack black as yharim

he has to pull another bowser

comically evil but trying to make you finish the crusade by being regretful and acting like hes a changed man

[leaden bridge]

This summer
Things will get....
Calamitous

(Jack black as dog: You pest! I'll eat you whole!)

Go on an adventure and put an end to the Reign of Yharim

[night barn]

in all seriousness ella purnell could probably be a good calamitas

[small hound]

Calamity 2: Thorium Unleashed

[night barn]

jinx voice actor and also just a good actor

[small hound]

no because then wed just have jinx

[night barn]

is that how it works

[small hound]

yes

christ pratt is christ pratt, jack black is jack black

jinx voice actor is typecasted jinx voice actor

[night barn]

this all sounds dystopian

[small hound]

very

almost sounds like were having a bit of calamity in these casting choices

[leaden bridge]

This calamity

[night barn]

who else fell for the divorce text at the top of the screen

😂

[small hound]

i dont think were in kansas anymore

what a calamity

[night barn]

what a good one

[small hound]

according to the lore yharon has to be dokuro

[leaden bridge]

Embark on an adventure to a new world (pedro pascal as the terrarian) hello my child i have to take care of

[small hound]

i dont care if his voice isnt canonical

he still has to voice yharon

[night barn]

owo

[leaden bridge]

Calamity cinematic universe by Zack Snyder

Gal gadot as the bandit: i am a terrible actress

[limpid saddle]

but she played Lucy fallout

[small hound]

oh right

[limpid saddle]

who is very much a different character to jinx

[small hound]

basically fallout jinx

[limpid saddle]

what the fuck are you talking about

[small hound]

im talking about real shows

like arcane

and not fallout

except the next season will be good

so it might change my mind

[jovial ridge]

John Wulfrum turns 5 today

Happy 5th year anniversary to my sole contribution to calamity

[dusk laurel]

oh my god its john wulfrum

[icy veldt]

Wulfrum Alpha

[young socket]

You.

I hate you.

You MADE that abomination known as "John Wulfrum".

[glacial rampart]

oh that explains a lot

[jovial ridge]

I have zero regrets

I still think he’s funny

[split mortar]

John wulfrum is canon in fables now iirc

[jovial ridge]

Hell yea

[glacial rampart]

dude you're like a straight up modern like darwin or something

[jovial ridge]

Forgot to ask but what’s fables

I have not paid attention to anything terraria related in a while lol

[cloud ibex]

calamity reimagining by (some of) the 22 people

[jovial ridge]

Neat

[split mortar]

Its called fables cause
Fab less
Iirc

[abstract hedge]

Standalone calamity reimagining, currently only has desert scourge, sir nautilus, and crabulon (boss-wise). Next major update planned is sunken sea + leviathan.

[visual kiln]

i like fables

[long bloom]

[abstract hedge]

It is a good mod.

[vestal badge]

i wonder what ilmeris would look like ingame if it wasnt incinerated

is there any art of ilmeris?

[young socket]

no

[vestal badge]

fanart....?

[young socket]

it is unsure if we will ever get to see wat an unincinerated ilmeris would look like

[vestal badge]

oh.. is there only fanart without the n?

[young socket]

i dont know of any, but theres prob a few out there

[noble falcon]

I hear it had water
Don’t ask how I know

[vestal badge]

i imagine many coral flats

[pliant ruin]

I mean parts of Illmeris still exist, Sunken Sea and all

good point of reference

well not the current ingame Sunken Sea but yknow sso and all that

tommorow or whatever

[left rivet]

Does signus cannonically have a tail

[limpid saddle]

i dont believe so

[split mortar]

We have seen signus sprite and they seem to be only mouths

[noble falcon]

And lamps

[left rivet]

Plushie has tail

[night barn]

faart

AAGG

can we can this guy

[vestal badge]

sso.... confirmed TOMMORROW ?!

[pliant ruin]

september-oct

[vestal badge]

Watch this be someones youtube title or something

[vestal badge]

Wait what-

[pliant ruin]

sunken sea overhaul september-october

release me

[vestal badge]

the devs are putting you on a guillotine

oh my gosh its a bit

i had no idea

[night barn]

i wonder if we should just pin that

sept-oct

the issue is i doubt its that concrete

[pliant ruin]

it's not an actual date it's a stupid meme that's the calamity equivalent of Deltarune Tommorow 😭

it started out as SSO September-October because of a single one off s tatement but then we went Past september-october and it just devolved into madness

[night barn]

oh WHAT

😭

DONT SAY THAT THEN

I GOT BAITed

[pliant ruin]

🥹 the progenitor of all evil

[mighty zenith]

the progenitor of all... calamity...

[young socket]

the... catalyst... of all... calamity...

[dusk laurel]

you

[eager bluff]

not just a single one off statement

a single one off statement disproved like 4 messages later

[pliant ruin]

makes it all the better

[agile matrix]

okay so illmeris (however you spell it) in my head mentally is just underwater newyork

[noble falcon]

You guys know the movie shark tale
It’s set in pre-burnt ilmeris

[agile matrix]

oh you're right

[noble falcon]

Like a couple days after that story wraps up is when calamitas fires her destructo beam

[sinful adder]

It was actually September-october 2026

[long bloom]

ilmeris

[pliant ruin]

its ok i also call it illmeris all the time i share ytour pain

the merians cant stop being ill in my head

[dusk laurel]

youre sick and twisted

[feral skiff]

if Xeroc is the First God, who's the Second God?

[eager bluff]

unknown for certain iirc but most likely god of dogma

[left rivet]

Who is that

[eager bluff]

sunken sea

[pliant ruin]

General plans right now seem to be that it was john dogma based on what some devs have said but as it is not ingame yet it's not guaranteed and could be changed yeah

[left rivet]

Is that an eidolon wyrm

[eager bluff]

extra watery italy

[pliant ruin]

First imperfect ascencion or wtvs

[eager bluff]

no

that is a phenomenon known as amidiasposting and it should be expunged from this channel

[pliant ruin]

The fact it's prevalent enough where you can go as far as to label it as "amidiasposting"

Evil

I am the one who opened Pandora's box

[dusk laurel]

you mightve expunged your intentional evil into azazel but you can never escape your true nature

[eager bluff]

i am its number one hater

if anybody is going to use a blanket term for it its gonna be me

[robust osprey]

you should be ashamed

you created the evil

[left rivet]

Amidias is a seahorse right

[long bloom]

yes

so is cnidrion

[pliant ruin]

well technically

[long bloom]

but more horse than sea

[pliant ruin]

Amidias's new design is actually inspired of a seadragon

but those are just like

seahorse (long)

[sinful adder]

Also with lots of cute camo nubs!

What

Leafy sea dragon my beloved

Common weedy sea dragon my behated

[left rivet]

Is there a reference i could take for amidias

[sinful adder]

I mean. Old current design or new design?

[left rivet]

Oh My....

New? Perhaps

[long bloom]

yeah the only public image is the jonkler one

[sinful adder]

Don't know but probably like this

[left rivet]

Wait rlly

[long bloom]

tomorrow's another day

[left rivet]

Goddamn

So uh do i use older design or do i make one or...?

[long bloom]

for what

[pliant ruin]

if you want to draw you can just draw what you want

[long bloom]

true

[left rivet]

Ok amidias pregnant

Joke

I Will draw braelor

Bro is cool

[abstract hedge]

Cnidrion is such a stupid name.

Signathion is infinitely superior.

[noble falcon]

How would amidias feel if I took him to bass pro

[fleet wedge]

I mean, I don't think he has strong opinions on fish
Pretty sure it's just the angler

[noble falcon]

I mean he’s a fish guy, I’d think he’d have strong opinions about going to a store specifically for catching and/or killing fish

[pliant ruin]

not really

illmerans probably ate fish regularly

its no different from how we eat cows and pigs

we're both mammals

[noble falcon]

Ah I see
I finally have a chill friend to go to bass pro with

[random mulch]

new calamity structure: bass pro shop pyramid

[pliant ruin]

new boss fight: middle aged man with a women love me fish fear me cap and male pattern baldness

[errant swallow]

yharon has a son?

[pliant ruin]

no

the item is not canon, donor

[errant swallow]

ohhh

[limpid saddle]

if its a donor item it isnt canon

so always look for that little red text

[night barn]

if it's a donor item it's TRASH

except for son of yharon that one isncute

[sinful adder]

That's actually what the desert pyramid was before it got incinerated

It was repurposed to a tomb afterwards

[pliant ruin]

marksman bow

itst he best one

[limpid saddle]

but ... but... my plaguebringer armour....

[pulsar ocean]

why would the donor intentionally cause havoc and confusion in new players thinking yharon actually has a son

[vestal badge]

Yeah whats that about

[mighty zenith]

probably just thought it'd be cool

plus back then yharon actually had sons

[night barn]

what even is that

[pliant ruin]

kozz is a ozzatron alt i think

[night barn]

ok this one is kinda good

[pliant ruin]

kozz stands for kozzatronm

[pliant ruin]

its this bow that fires like three arrowsa nd it converst wooden arrows into spectral arrows
it has like abyss aesthethics and is crafted with 12 ectoplasm and nothing else by hand
it has literally no othjer special properties otherwise

its awesome because its a donor weapon intentionally designed to be shittily designed

the donor specifically asked them to keep it shitty and not change it for the bit

[mighty zenith]

thats pretty funny

[pliant ruin]

it having abyss aesthethics for no reason, being crafted with just 12 ectoplasm ofr no reason, converting wooden arrows into spectral arrows for no reason, Everything for No Reason

actually has 1 reason and its For The Vine

[night barn]

this is like a joke scp

[mighty zenith]

scp 420 j

[night barn]

rename donor items to joke items

maybe im being harsh they're not all bad

obviously there's just

a bit of a lower standard

[split mortar]

Siffrin

[long bloom]

i only read this message and was about to say "marksman bow"

[stoic gulch]

The Siffrin is YOU

[split mortar]

Ok

[small hound]

who is silva anyways

shes the abyss right

[stoic gulch]

Silva is life elemental

And she’s a #girlbosso

Except that she’s just like a bunch of piles of plants in the abyss

[limpid saddle]

yeah her decayed plant corpse is there right now

[small hound]

[limpid saddle]

though in like 20 years shes gonna grow back & leave

[small hound]

so thats what ive been digging up when im collecting planty mush

i dont think shes reforming from my magic storage

[limpid saddle]

no she just spawns that through her prescence

her corpse isnt the planty mush her corpse is her corpse

[small hound]

where is her corpse

[limpid saddle]

in the background

[stoic gulch]

In the abyss

[small hound]

like deadass its visible in the background or nah

[limpid saddle]

you cant see it (right now) or get to it (ever)

[small hound]

oh

boring

i want to harvest her life essence

i bet that would make a good mage/summoner item

[stoic gulch]

She’s weaker than providence I think

[dusk laurel]

stronger

[limpid saddle]

i thought that was the case

[dusk laurel]

ggg thats because you dont deserve to get future updates

[limpid saddle]

but im not gonna restate it so i dont get 🐌

[limpid saddle]

[split mortar]

Silva is the third strongest god we know of

[stoic gulch]

Xeroc, Silva and who?

[split mortar]

Shakidou

God of emptiness

[stoic gulch]

Oh yeah

That fucker

[small hound]

whos shakadou

[stoic gulch]

God of emptiness

We don’t really have any lore about them

[split mortar]

Theyre a character made after bountiful harvest so we know very little about them

Ate dragon of night

[small hound]

i see

[pulsar ocean]

if only he was an avatar of it 💀 💀 💀 (those who know)

[dusk laurel]

🍅

[soft flame]

🧱

now i’m curious is there any relation between the two

or is it just the headcannon
-become-reality fashion of wotg

[random mulch]

aoe isn't canon why would there be a relation

[abstract hedge]

There isn't.

Because AoE is from WotG.

[split mortar]

Wotg not canon so no lore connections at least

[craggy sparrow]

Ngl The ark's parry feature in lore must be a cheat code

It directly enlarges and dispositions the attack shrinking the disengagement time to open up for a counter or riposte

[soft flame]

i mean did the existence of the god of emptiness influence the creation of the avatar of emptiness

from the devs’ perspective

[split mortar]

Avatar of emptiness was made after the wotg update

No

Not avatar

God

Avatar predates god of emptines irl

[dusk laurel]

melon gun

[split mortar]

What

[dusk laurel]

idk you just appeared

[split mortar]

So did you??

[craggy sparrow]

Melon gun