lore-discussion

[leaden bridge]

we guess

[long scaffold]

AU where Statis didn’t hesitate

[leaden bridge]

thats like an au in name but thats hardly like a proper au its just a what if story prompt

[long scaffold]

Fair

[leaden bridge]

we're talking calamiswap calamifell calamishift overlamity

outerlamity

fresh and error dog

fucking

ink dog

[cosmic zenith]

Quite literally

[leaden bridge]

wow! must be some sort of calamity fables of a mending world gilded neverland

[cosmic zenith]

Fables of a Mending World 🔥 ✍️

[mossy hawk]

Calamitale

It's just Calamity

But Draedon is Gaster

[rancid orchid]

i could write a 70 page essay about why i haven't don't and never will play about yharim x yharon

[leaden bridge]

problematic age gap

[pliant ruin]

i'm of the opinion that shipping any of the gods or comically ancient beings with mortals is kind of weird f or the same reason that a like 20 year old dating a 70 year old is kind of weird like its technically not illegal but its questionable and bizzare

[leaden bridge]

we dont actually care

[pliant ruin]

they're like on entirely different mindflows or whatever

mindflow

new word i cmae up with

[leaden bridge]

there's a point where it's meaningless frankly

so its like

like yharon is say 3000 years old yharims still like a hundred year old man

like

hell be fine

[pliant ruin]

your mindflow is wrong

mine is better

[mighty zenith]

you already know

[leaden bridge]

my mindflow is that we cant outlaw vampires

[pliant ruin]

noxus x ant

[mighty zenith]

yeah

that one

[pliant ruin]

ant tier

[leaden bridge]

there used to be an age where mods would never touch this channel, times really do change

[cosmic zenith]

I think it boils down to characterization tbh
Chronological aging is distinct from mental growth

And mental growth (maturity) is a massive factor

[manic coral]

or like more than one dev

[night crypt]

chat is teeming with devs now omg

[leaden bridge]

everyone is a dev if you believe deep in your heart

[cosmic zenith]

Dating a god who behaves like billionaire heir in his 20s is gonna be wildly different from dating a god who spent all his life meditating and reading to avoid existential crisis

[light moth]

Well, from the certain point of view, it's true

[leaden bridge]

we've gotten 2 different people at different times to think we were a calamity dev somehow

maybe they came from the alt universe where it did happen

[pulsar ocean]

armored digger x dog

[real silo]

from the who universe.....

[leaden bridge]

#lmao

[stiff berry]

[light moth]

Guys (and that's copypaste, yah)
Interesting (or not) question for you
What is the best Calamity menu theme (among fanmade and official, yes) in your opinion?
The tale of the cruel world
Sky after rain
Or Dreams of Dawn?

[pliant ruin]

i dont know any of these except te first

[stiff berry]

catalyst :]

[real silo]

Sky after raing is infernom

[light moth]

Well, the second one is made by Pinpinneon for Infernum mod
The third one is composed by Dodged Music (the Ignite my Flame and Project Exo creator)

[pliant ruin]

how it feels to have never playe dany calaity addons

onbly calamity fan musicians i know are john roy brimstone premium and pimpin neon because i know the mpersonally from another server but i didnt even know who they were before meeting them on said server

[real silo]

sentences you to cal overhaul playthrough

[real silo]

this girl doesn't know tyran

t

[stiff berry]

true

[pliant ruin]

i forgot tyrant was a real person

sorry

[real silo]

how could you forget ant

of the tyr variety

[pliant ruin]

@tropic oak sorry i thought you were like an ai dude

my bad

[stiff berry]

bug in ur phone

[light moth]

Heart plus up?

[tropic oak]

🤖

[real silo]

evil b

[pliant ruin]

the tragedy of brimston premium (his most viewed musics are all of his old songs taht are just like worse in every way to his newer stuff and 🥹 )

[real silo]

uge

[pliant ruin]

please dont listen to his old sdongs guys dont give them more views please free my goat

[stiff berry]

bro jteoh

[pliant ruin]

i guess shes a fan musician now

since she no longer in the team

didnt register that

[stiff berry]

jteoh's music is goated

i wanna talk to him more he's so cool

[pliant ruin]

jteoh made the invoked stargod theme right

[stiff berry]

yeah

[pliant ruin]

thats the only one ive listened to but it was pretty aweosme

should listen to more of his stuff

[light moth]

Not fully
Draedon's labs theme is official and made by her

[tropic oak]

see this is why i unlisted all of my old shit

i dont want anybody listening to allat

[stiff berry]

he also composed the new wrath of the machines mechs theme

+new goozma theme iirc

gardner-pierce project 💖

[light moth]

Plus, VCMM is (as I understood) official addon for Calamity
So...

[tropic oak]

OFFICIAL

not HALF

[stiff berry]

LOOOLLLL

[light moth]

Okay, okay

Fully official

So, nah
She is far from being "Fan musician", sorry

[pliant ruin]

yeah but she retired

so shes a fan musician now

is what i mean

she made songs for the mod before but shesn ot a dev anymore

[split mortar]

Doesnt she still vcmm

[pliant ruin]

She does

[light moth]

She still is with VCmm yeah

[pliant ruin]

As far as i'm aware that dosen't make her a calamity dev because vcmm is not calamity so yeah

[stiff berry]

oh yeah while i'm thinking about it https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1370436297541292072/1454208615371243653/IMG_8408.png?ex=695040cf&is=694eef4f&hm=77b7afc94e27feb3508fb9d1ce98a58125cc0f41f80d72a1b426c9db45f2de2c&

[mighty zenith]

jsjdjejskkwsjkzsjxndk

[stiff berry]

drew deus's face too long kms

[mighty zenith]

nooo its good shur up

[stiff berry]

fixed

[spring helm]

Plug and pluh

[leaden bridge]

plu? like pluey?

[mossy hawk]

When will Tenna finally learn????

Pluey is THE GAME

Not the character!

[leaden bridge]

Pluey is HER NAME she CHOSE IT FOR HERSELF

[mossy hawk]

But TENNA doesn't know that

He keeps calling Mike 2 Pluey

[leaden bridge]

Because mike is sometimes pluey

Sometimes mike is battat and sometimes mike is jongler

It's that easy

[mossy hawk]

But Mike explicitely says that Pluey is the name of the game

Toby even showed it in the newest newsletter

[hoary cape]

Garbo said it's good therefore it must be bad

[plucky juniper]

holy gog aureus looks SO MUCH BETTER in your artstyle

[leaden bridge]

It doesn't matter because pluey chose the name for herself

[mossy hawk]

Looks like a fuzzy worm

[leaden bridge]

Battat is literally the one who's wrong

[mossy hawk]

Very cute

[mossy hawk]

Well, can't fault him for thay

He felt a bit glooby that day

[leaden bridge]

Like how in the first teaser jongler was right about the green drink being cool

[mossy hawk]

Also I like how this channel is called lore discussion

And not calamity lore discussion

Means we can talk about the lore of anything

[real silo]

No we can't

[leaden bridge]

It has traditionally steered into discussing the writing of other games

[mossy hawk]

The channel doesn't say calamity lore discussion tho

Every other calamity channel has calamity in it 👀

[cloud ibex]

no

[split mortar]

Explodes bidoof with mind

[leaden bridge]

For example in Minecraft souls are a source of energy that eventually find their way to Minecraft heaven currently holding the fan name "nextworld" and by doing certain rituals you can pull them back which is basically how pillagers get the allays for example

[rancid orchid]

this is failed attempt 32 of me trying to bring up yharon x yharim with the hopes that someone will have any thoughts about them other than the species difference or age difference (lighthearted i don't care)

[real silo]

Pillagers have allays?

[pliant ruin]

Species difference is funny ot think about tbh because its like

[leaden bridge]

I (120M) developed a romantic relationship with the bird that told me to commit ultra genocide (2000+M), is this weird?

[pliant ruin]

something thats just weird to us becasue we odnt really have like weird ass different sapient species on our world its just us

on a world like calamity where theres different sapient species that share a world with eachother itd probably be seen as less weird. thoguh thered probalby still be discrimination or something

[leaden bridge]

You literally cannot get allays without liberating them from pillagers as they're only found in outposts and mansions

[plucky juniper]

if you ask me people would probably be more racist. otherism is a time honored shame

[pliant ruin]

I think it's just like we don't really have Sapient Lizards so even though it's not really like beastiality or anything our brain just kinda goes there because of how in real life all the sapient things are the Naked Monkeys so if we see something that isn't a Naked Monkey or atleast dosen't generally look like a Naked Monkey in a relationship with one it just sorta immediately feels like it's Uh Oh even though in-universe it'd actually be fine

[plucky juniper]

like if there were genuinely clearly different species of sapients racism might be worse

[pliant ruin]

yeah i mean probably

[leaden bridge]

People would be so hella specist itd be not fun

[split mortar]

How could any specist racism stuff be fun

[leaden bridge]

It wouldn't which is why we said it wouldn't?

[real silo]

Ohok

[plucky juniper]

its fun for writing, but only because conflict tends to make stories better

thats... all i can think of

and also if you're that kind of snobby son of a gun of a shit

[leaden bridge]

Not weird imo, i mean the genocide part is a little weird but all they really did for you was like push you towards your goal you know.

Dude you can't say that, it was Genocide, it's definitely weird

Well that's what YOU think
It is a little weird but they're both adults they can get through it

Lmfao leave it to reddit to armchair a complicated relationship like this

So true, like everyone here is spouting crap like they know what the situation is like, personally OP should've figured this out themselves

[feral skiff]

the urge to turn this into an actual meme

[plucky juniper]

do it

[leaden bridge]

We have more reddit comments in us if you need

[umbral forge]

Send me all of them personally

[night barn]

the titanic was a pretty cool one before ... uhm...... the tragedy....

[glacial rampart]

what the fuck is going on

[craggy sparrow]

Yharim x archmage

Why?: Old man yaoi

[real silo]

Wrong

Cultist x archmage

[split mortar]

Cultists age is not known

[real silo]

Nope he's old

I have decided he is 3 gorillion years old

[dusk laurel]

get the gorilla

[livid sandal]

Ravager x Astrum Aureus

the rectangles

[nocturne bear]

How old is calamitous physically

[long bloom]

28

at the beginning of the terrarian's journey

which is estimated to be 1887

[feral skiff]

a hundred years after that

1987

and do you know what happened in ‘87?

[mossy hawk]

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-old-man-deltarune-chapter-4-gerson-old-man-gerson-gif-9899296470632859392

No gif perms 🙁

[craggy sparrow]

The bite of xeroc

[pulsar ocean]

1867

[long bloom]

no

it's 1887

1867 would be before azafure was destroyed

[pulsar ocean]

yes

[long bloom]

fact checked by writers

also i'm the bitch that made the most accurate timeline to date

[pulsar ocean]

[glossy wolf]

when did the story of calamity start and what year or age are we the terrarian in?

[split mortar]

The story of calamity starts when world soul shatters technically
Terrarian appearing is 1887

[zenith geode]

woaaaahhhh oooohhhhhh oooohhhhhhhh ooooooooohhh oooohhhhhhh story of calamity

[glossy wolf]

that’s like older than me wow

[craggy sparrow]

Due to yharim fucking everything up

terraria technology is scattered beyond belief

we got medieval tech

converging with modern and sci fi

Somehow

SOMEHOW

THE GUIDE

THE ORDER OF THE GUIDE

HIDES EVERYTHING

ARCHIVES IT IN GOD KNOWS WHERE

https://tenor.com/view/wall-of-flesh-guide-гид-террария-gif-26977205

EVERYONE IN THIS STORY ARE BUMS

[long bloom]

ip grabber

[split mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/in-stars-and-time-isat-frits-siffrin-gif-13096790248392821853

[random mulch]

added the big bird sprite

[split mortar]

Put fatalis for flame

[random mulch]

no

only actual images of their designs will be used

[split mortar]

Can i take a bite out if the image

[random mulch]

no

make your own image to take a bite out of

[split mortar]

Last time i touched a pencil for more then ten seconds i bit it

[long bloom]

yu should change the gradient to end in teal

would be cool

[feral skiff]

why did Xeroc teach Silva how to do the Perfect Ascension? is he stupid?

[night barn]

300 MILLION

😭 😭 🙏

[long bloom]

those are just the fuckers that died in battle

the overall crusade halved the world population

[night barn]

that is a ridiculous figure

bro is like

50 hitlers

[long bloom]

this is true

also hi automod

[night barn]

no more talking about hitler in lore discussion

1984 . gif

[long bloom]

you can talk about that (within reason + not super offtopic) but saying his name triggers the automod

nothing will happen, it's just funny

[night barn]

yuh im sure its dfine

i was on the nice list this year

so im pretty well behaved

[pulsar ocean]

does yharim have backpain

[long bloom]

probably not

he had draedon

[night barn]

he got draedon to make a gadget that removes all backpain but it proved impossible and caused draedon's processor to fry

yharims army collapsed shortly after

as did yharim

due to the back pain

i heard this from the lore writer

[long bloom]

[night barn]

it begged me to free it from confinement but there is more work to be done

lore must be written

[craggy sparrow]

What did you expect

[night barn]

idk maybe just like

[craggy sparrow]

Bro he killed everyone who didn't agree with him

[night barn]

a civilized debate

[craggy sparrow]

You know the desert in game yeah?

[night barn]

just a healthy airing of grievances between yharim and xeroc

[craggy sparrow]

that wasn't a desert

it was a large sea

[night barn]

bro

[random mulch]

actually it was always a desert

[craggy sparrow]

whar

[random mulch]

it's just that the underground desert used to be a lot smaller

the ilmerian sea was always underground

[craggy sparrow]

oh

[night barn]

the amount of unseriousness required to see an ocean and be like,

see this

just

[craggy sparrow]

well it doesn't take away that he genocided a whole race

[night barn]

just make it an opposite

[craggy sparrow]

and a whole ecosystem

using a child

[night barn]

make it the opposite of what it is right now

just for fun

[craggy sparrow]

oh yeah

he uses child solders too

if they're strong enough

[night barn]

lmao

[craggy sparrow]

what else

hes gay

and evil

[night barn]

yeah i knew that

thats pretty apparent

[random mulch]

had shock troopers that had flamethrowers to burn people alive and other things

[craggy sparrow]

You know our journey is just one big suicide plan

he wants us to kill him

[night barn]

lamee

[craggy sparrow]

he could've hanged himself but no because hes a narcissist

[craggy sparrow]

I blame yarhon too

[random mulch]

he wants someone to replace him and keep killing gods

[craggy sparrow]

he could've guided him better

[night barn]

well yharon is also probably not a very good guy

[craggy sparrow]

Well atleast my terrarian isn't replacing his ass

[night barn]

i assume he was less involved in the ridiculous genocides but still complicit at the very least

[random mulch]

yharon very much wanted this kinda stuff to happen as well

[night barn]

im sure

[random mulch]

he's kinda angry that people have killed every single other auric dragon

[night barn]

its kinda understandable because its his species thats getting hunted to extinction

but alsooo

maybe find a less insane guy to champion

[craggy sparrow]

It all leads to the moon lord tbh

[night barn]

yeah frick that guy

[craggy sparrow]

If he hadn't arrived then nameless wouldn't had the chance to consume a soul

[random mulch]

nameless deity isn't canon

[craggy sparrow]

isn't his name in lore though

[random mulch]

xero'c name is xeroc

[craggy sparrow]

like the one who ate the first soul

oh

[night barn]

i wouldnt be surprised zeratros didnt really care about xeroc consuming his soul

[craggy sparrow]

oh yeah i forgot

[night barn]

like they were apparently buddies

and zeratros was already dying

and the dragons got fucked up by moon lord

like

yeah xeroc ate a soul but moon lord ATE them

like poof

[craggy sparrow]

we just have to figure out how powerful is torch god now

[random mulch]

torch god isn't a god at all

[craggy sparrow]

nuh uh

[random mulch]

it's just there, maybe it's a real entity, maybe you're just hallucinating from carbon monoxide poisoning

[astral coyote]

Trying to build dragon aerie bleh idk what I'm doing I don't make statues usually

[night barn]

WOWW

so cool

xeroc eye

hello

[craggy sparrow]

500 yharim approved points

[astral coyote]

Idk I'm using honey blocks?? And pearlstone?? And random calamity stuff not very lore accurate

[random mulch]

as long as it looks good

[night barn]

yes

[astral coyote]

We'll see

This part is an arena so everything has to be actuated as well

Not sure what else I'm gonna do really

[night barn]

is there a dragon of rain do you think

[astral coyote]

Probably

[night barn]

that woud be cute

[random mulch]

there was a dragon of storms so that probably already covers rain

[night barn]

does it ?

i guess it could

[craggy sparrow]

Note

the dragon of hrt exists

[night barn]

probably

dragon of like

organs

[astral coyote]

Wait really

[night barn]

dragon-god pairs are cool to think about

[astral coyote]

Yeag

Dragon of hrt

Who made that cannon

[night barn]

i. dont

think thats canon

im soereryt .

[astral coyote]

Hikari would never lie to me

[craggy sparrow]

Unfortunately no

[astral coyote]

Nevermind I was wrong

[night barn]

what could dragon of flesh become

if hypothetically eaten by some guy and turned into a god

[astral coyote]

Traitorrrr

Huh

Ravager

[night barn]

isnt ravager sacrifice

[random mulch]

ravager is most likely the god of blood

ravager is the revived corpse of the god of sacrifices

[night barn]

oh so he became a new god

after another soul got stuck in him probably

[random mulch]

god of sacrifices' followers tried to revive him

[night barn]

sounds like a new soul

just put more god in him

like his gas tank ran out

[limpid saddle]

I think the explanation is supposed to be because of how the essence recongealed with his followers souls, (because the original God Soul exploded) it formed a new God Soul from the will of those who tried to revive him

No new God Souls were used in the creation of Ravager

[night barn]

oh is thart how it works

the soul exploded

[random mulch]

how it happened is still up in the air

we simply have no concrete answer yet

[limpid saddle]

Yeah all God Souls explode on the Gods death due to how unstable they are

[night barn]

i mean it makes sense that sacrifices would revive the god of sacrifice

dragon of fear -> god of extinction

orsoemtgjhing

fear doesnt qwuite work

but god of extinction sounds fun

[limpid saddle]

Typically domains are a bit more closely tied

[night barn]

ye it doesnt work perfectly

[limpid saddle]

Think Gluttony > Slime, Fire > Ash, Night > Emptiness, & so on

[night barn]

gluttony to slime is a bit of a stretch

[limpid saddle]

i might have that last one backwards

[night barn]

in terms of closely tied domains

😭

[limpid saddle]

i always interpreted it as the 'aftermath' of gluttony so y'know

shit

god of shit

[night barn]

i guess

like

conceptually they are related

[random mulch]

slimes are gluttonous creatures that eat and absorb pretty much anything

[night barn]

i suppose

did slimes exist before the god of slime

[random mulch]

yes

[night barn]

that makes more sense then

[random mulch]

providence didn't invent ash

[night barn]

well obviously but that doesnt really mean anything

i assume a powerful god could make some sort of little creature

[random mulch]

slime god is one of the weakest gods but they can make slimes

[night barn]

yeah exactly

[limpid saddle]

no only the god of making some sort of little creature can do that

[night barn]

so idk if the slime or the god came first

[random mulch]

slime

[night barn]

that would be awesome]

secret calamity boss fight

i KNOW its in the mod and i will find it eventually

are there the four horsemen gods

[limpid saddle]

probably not

[night barn]

yeah i guess some are dragons already

[random mulch]

closest is the dragon of death

[night barn]

like death dragon

[limpid saddle]

closest we have is death

[night barn]

god of war probably does exist

[limpid saddle]

yeah he's mulch

[night barn]

what the fuck kratos??

[limpid saddle]

he got mulched

he's the crimson now

[night barn]

oh poor guy

[limpid saddle]

that's how bad he got mulched

[limpid saddle]

he was kind of a really bad guy actually

[night barn]

yeah that kinda tracks

[limpid saddle]

like a take prisoners & abuse them for his gratification kind of guy

[night barn]

war is generally bad

oh ew

he probably enjoyed it all though

[random mulch]

nah he was a "hunts for sport" kinda guy

[night barn]

god of war being a part of the greatest war of all time

[limpid saddle]

non non, what i said is canon

[random mulch]

but like, hunting endangered animals because he felt like it

[limpid saddle]

cei said that when first disclosing more information about gow

[random mulch]

really?

[limpid saddle]

she also said she envisions him looking vaguely like heian era sukuna from jjk

with bug aesthetics & an exo-skeleton

[night barn]

funky

god of famine and pestilence could also definitely exist

[limpid saddle]

i was there the daughter of ozz laid down the glorious lore upon her disciples...

[night barn]

famine could be from like

dragon of drought or something

drought happens kinda no matter what but famine is a more human associated thing i think

[limpid saddle]

dragon of mild dehydration

[night barn]

dragon of onme glass of water please

[limpid saddle]

dragon of brokies eating little ceasers & drinking tap water

[night barn]

imagine pestilence god coming from dragon of rats

[limpid saddle]

i dont think rats are a crucial enough worldly concept to be embodied in a fragment of the world soul

[night barn]

well then you would be sorely mistaken

[random mulch]

rats are very clean

[night barn]

rats were there for all of it

since the dawn of time

[random mulch]

pestilence god absorded the auric soul of fleas

[night barn]

could also be true

i think each of the seven deadly sins would be a god and could come from random dragons like

god of pride coming from dragon of uhh

gay

god of sloth coming from dragon of sleep

[random mulch]

considering dragon of gluttony, it'd probably be the other way around

[night barn]

is the other obvious one

[night barn]

idk this seems weird to me though

i thought dragons were meant to be like

the things from the world soul

that are more connected to nature and actual earthly things

but sins are like

strictly a human thing

[errant swallow]

whats dogs lore

[night barn]

he hungry

[random mulch]

there was a dragon of faith at one point, things can get pretty abstract

[night barn]

yeah weird

like

why

[errant swallow]

also who tf is silva

[night barn]

😭

[night barn]

nature elemental

[random mulch]

big worm from another dimension that eats gods

[night barn]

she done eated the life dragon soul and became the god of life

because they were so locked in together

[random mulch]

i mean the god of war couldve come from the dragon of wrath

[night barn]

like the progression makes sense yeah but the dragon being

of wrath

kinda doesnt to me idk

but i will accept it

[errant swallow]

whos the next god we could fight in cal

[random mulch]

xeroc

[errant swallow]

noxus was lik

god of destruction right?

[random mulch]

the first god, may be added as a superboss

noxus isn't a god

[night barn]

noxus is his own thing

hes just chilling

[pulsar ocean]

like Hazbin hotel

[random mulch]

noxus is a complete enigma from another dimension

[night barn]

noNOT like hazbin hotel NOT like hazbin hotel AT ALL

💥

[pulsar ocean]

I think lucifer Hazbin hotel would no diff xeroc

[night barn]

i dont like that show

[errant swallow]

wait what?

also who was the god that like
killed the big dragon guy

[random mulch]

that does not narrow it down at all

[errant swallow]

uhh

there was a giant dragon

like their leader or smth

and he was sick

[random mulch]

ah, xeroc

[errant swallow]

wait so that is xeroc?

[random mulch]

zeratros (the dragon) wasn't sick, he was dying from his injuries

[random mulch]

xeroc was the first god and the one who absorbed zeratros' soul

[real silo]

Me when I can't sin just because I was born a dragon

Looks at dragon of flame

[pulsar ocean]

If all dogs go to heaven why can’t all dragons go to heaven

[errant swallow]

how did he get those injuries?

[pulsar ocean]

Moon lord

[errant swallow]

who was moonlord in the lore again?

[pulsar ocean]

Cosmic entity
Came out of nowhere and started sliming everything he could see and all the dragons

[night barn]

idk maybe there's different rules in dragon religions but in most human religions sinning is very human thing

and dragons being able to sin doesn't mean there needs to be sin souls because like

humans can do a lot of things as well

but the souls are still only related to like directly worldly natural things

and dragons don't warp their souls afaik so they shouldn't be making sin souls

[errant swallow]

also i think in one of the lore items

yharime says

that there is something stronger in dogs dimensions?

[night barn]

that's probably noxus

he's from the same place as dog

and is kinda the ringleader

anywayy it's bed time

bye bye guys

[limpid saddle]

bye

Anyhow it is Noxus, though Noxus is currently unnamed in-game, not due to failure to integrate the lore (for once), but as an intentional storytelling device

[real silo]

What about dragon of faith

[limpid saddle]

He is omnious & unnamed, a dark force stirring on the horizon that kneels to no master & commands an army of enslaved abominations

[night barn]

yeah like i don't know

[errant swallow]

so will he be a boss?

[limpid saddle]

maybe

[night barn]

maybe dragons do warp their souls

it would make sense

as intelligent beings with culture and civilization and stuff

[real silo]

The world soul can just have hyperspecific fragments of stuff

Gluttony and faith are both canon dragons

[limpid saddle]

The focus is on reworking progression, if Yharim gets finished & the team has enough fuel to burn a Noxus fight & spar with Xeroc will be integrated as superbosses

[real silo]

Wrath exists too though I might be confusing that with headcanon

[night barn]

why would the world soul have gluttony in it though

hmm

[real silo]

Idk what dragon became the god of war

[night barn]

idk maybe it's just like that

[real silo]

it's the soul of the world so it should probably have everything ever inside it

Including feelings of gluttony

[limpid saddle]

it contains multitudes

[real silo]

faith in things

[night barn]

maybe it adapted to newer concepts until it got shattered

[limpid saddle]

let the primordial soup of the world be hungry ok

we are a pro-eating food to not die household in the calmain discord

[night barn]

if it's genuinely the soul of the earth then i don't think that's how it would work but if it's more of just an esoteric collection of concepts and stuff that may or may not exist ("world" not as in literally planet but moreso just an all-encompassing bag of concepts) then yeah i suppose

i just always thought of it as the former

like literally the planet's soul

[sinful adder]

Ok so like

As far as we know

[real silo]

Idk what it is but it has power over basically every concept related to the world

[sinful adder]

It is both the planet's soul and the combination of all concepts that later were able to take the form of the auric souls

Sounds like it is a kind of soul of reality, of everything that can or could exist

[night barn]

yeah so it's more like the latter

just a concept bank

[sinful adder]

Like a domain of existence or something

[night barn]

that makes sense but then the difference between dragon and god souls seems arbitrary

[sinful adder]

It's both

[night barn]

as in any god soul domain could be a dragon soul domain and vice versa

[sinful adder]

It was the soul of the world itself

Otherwise it wouldn't be called the world soul

[night barn]

world soul isn't actually very descriptive

[real silo]

God souls are generally subsets of dragon souls

[pulsar ocean]

It’s no use

[night barn]

right so the more natural domains will get lost in a god but the more abstract ones can remain because humans souls are more abstract as well

[real silo]

sacrifice ("killing" something as sacrifice) is a subset of death

ash is a subset of flame

Electricity is a subset of storms

[limpid saddle]

I personally have always interpreted the God Domains that aren't direct carry-overs (Primordial Light > Primordial Light, Life > Life) as the 'aftermath' of the Dragon's domain, a fading last light so to speak

[night barn]

those are more natural and therefore closer to just like baseline earthly concepts

so when a human eats it they'll get kinda warped into more abstract counterparts

[limpid saddle]

They aren't weaker per say but the muddling of the soul leads the concepts & motivations to become more abstract & esoteric

[pulsar ocean]

Would primordial light turn into modern light

[real silo]

We don't know what it could become

[limpid saddle]

yeah xeroc already ate it

[real silo]

It could be like shadow or some shit because zeratros' soul includes both light and the absence of light (shadows)

[pulsar ocean]

Why doesn’t someone just invent a new ritual to absorb god souls are they stupid

[real silo]

It could be mirrors

[limpid saddle]

too unstable cause god souls explode as soon as they leave their vessel

[night barn]

this is a cool way to look at it
i always just thought of it as the human soul mixing with the dragon soul and kinds corrupted it in a way

which is like

the basic way

of thinking about jt

i suppose

[pulsar ocean]

Just suck their soul while they’re alive

[limpid saddle]

you would need a way to fuse PEOPLE first before you even think about integrating someone into a new god

[night barn]

undertale true lab lore

[limpid saddle]

they dont neccesarily have to be dead but its the second it leaves its vessel it reacts violently & breaks down

[night barn]

anyway now j actually need to sleep bye bye 😍

[limpid saddle]

you eat a god soul before it collapses all you get is a really bad stomach ache

[random mulch]

and a bad case of explosions

[errant swallow]

which god was ravager made from again

[limpid saddle]

i think Death

wait

[random mulch]

god of sacrifices' dead body

[limpid saddle]

Dragon of Death

[errant swallow]

also is it possible to consume an auric soul from a god

[random mulch]

no

[limpid saddle]

God of Sacrifices* (*corpse)

[random mulch]

the auric souls is lost forever when absorbed

[limpid saddle]

No it becomes a God Soul at that point

the process is irreversible, like World Soul Shard to Auric Soul

& as i've been saying

When a God Soul leaves its vessel, it explodes

[errant swallow]

providence?

[limpid saddle]

yeah

it turns into essence

Because it exploded

[errant swallow]

there was a pase where she seperates her soul?

[random mulch]

no

[errant swallow]

or was that crystal smth else

[limpid saddle]

what?

[random mulch]

that's infernum

not canon

[pulsar ocean]

are the undertale human souls stronger than auric ones

[errant swallow]

good question

[mighty zenith]

i mean

assuming all humans have frisk's powers

time manipulation is pretty fucking strong

assuming they dont then uhhh probably not

[long bloom]

in undertale, you gain the ability to control save files if you're the entity with the most determination in the underground currently

so wouldn't apply to calamity

[mighty zenith]

its not really clear if thats how it works given we can control the save file even after everyone leaves

might just be overthinking

[long bloom]

i think any ui related mechanics not in the underground are just gameplay

[light moth]

Hy chaaaad
What are you ta-

Ah, wait, it's silent now

[light moth]

I have a question for all of you
How many retakes related to Calamity do you know?

And is it a bad sign if any AU (Calamity can be considered as a Terraria Au, right?) has a lot of retakes, some of which have more attention than the OG AU?

[split mortar]

Ig whatevers going on with hotog snd catalyst lore technically counts as AUs??
Im in a cal rp does that count?
Does fables count?

[light moth]

Updated a message a bit

[light moth]

I know nothing about Fables (except its existence), but if it is somewhat based on Calamity and has a lot of differences with it, then yeas

Catalyst… I dont think so as it can be considered as an another timeline

[split mortar]

Fables is ex cal devs still going through with their plans via a seperate mod
Also means dif lore more based on old lore iirc

[light moth]

Well, maybe yeas
Fables really can be a retake

And Hotog.. Goozma has a lore?
Even if yeas, it is still just one boss

[split mortar]

It technically does (adds draetalk options about goozma)

[light moth]

Who doesnt change the world/story significantly

[light moth]

Like, can any story really considered as badly written if it has a bunch of rewrites that attempt to “fix” or “improve” or “revamp” it significantly?

And I am talking about fan takes, of course
Not an official ones

[split mortar]

im running on 0 hours of sleep so nothing coming to mind

[light moth]

Oh, that’s shitty
Is it because of university exs?

[split mortar]

Got new game and my mind can not shut up about it to the point i couldnt sleep
Not i uni yet

[light moth]

Nvm
Maybe too perso-
Ah, okay

[limpid saddle]

I wouldnt consider any of the unofficial Calamity expansions AUs

Just seems like awkward termology for what is scaffolding on-top of a pre-existing work

Besides the only one I could think of for having any kind of ramifications to a potential larger narrative is WOTG, & that's essentially eintierly seperate from Calamity

[pulsar ocean]

does hotdog even count if it doesnt require calamity mod

[limpid saddle]

another shitty calclone doodle guest-starring calamitas

shes a little taller because of all the growth hormones draedon gave her as a zygote

[leaden bridge]

Hotog is technically canon accurate outside of word of god there's nothing saying that Can't happen

[cosmic zenith]

"Fix", "improve" and "revamp"? Maybe, it's a sign that people aren't satisfied with the original story

But having a lot of retakes in general isn't necessarily a bad sign; in some cases, it can be really good, not only in the sense that it signals a certain level of investment in the source material, but it also keeps the subject relevant even as it ages

[cosmic zenith]

Hotog lore is pretty neat

[pulsar ocean]

rewrite like the sonic exe

[cosmic zenith]

The latter is part of why I always encourage people to write their own takes and stories based off of Calamity

HotOG's lore isn't something we would add to base Calamity, but that doesn't make it any less interesting

Exploring the world, its characters, its events and its possibilities is one of the greater joys of fiction, and fan works take that to the next level

[real silo]

True...

Looking at my 15 cal characters all revolving around one calamity character

(ravager)

[errant swallow]

why is he abyss like that

[limpid saddle]

I can probably give you an answer if you elaborate

[errant swallow]

like

i mean

why is one sea like that

and the other not

there has to be a reason

[leaden bridge]

This thing called geology

we have them in planet earth too

[split mortar]

The sulphuric sea is like that cause azafure fumes and draedon nuclear waste

The abyss is like
Tectonic stuff like irl probably

[icy veldt]

Maybe I should pick Vindication back up 🤔

[errant swallow]

azafure fumes?

[icy veldt]

Industrial fumes and pollution

[split mortar]

Yknow that cities like produce fumes of pollution
That seeps into the water above

Abyss can filter it

Sulp sea cant

[errant swallow]

ohhh

[vestal badge]

is the rest of the cosmos a wasteland of astral infection?

it feels implied

[split mortar]

Other deus exist so prob not

Atleast not the local cosmos
Astral still about just not literally everywhere

[vestal badge]

somewhat incomprehensible im sorry

[abstract hedge]

Not really. It's a wasteland cause it's almost entirely uninhabited (as far as we know), but most doesn't have infection cause dei exist.

There's I think only three things from space we know of that are alive, being dei, fovos, and the martians.

Unless the infection counts as alive.

[vestal badge]

what are dei and fovos again?

[split mortar]

Deus eat stars before they astral most of the time

Fovos is another name for moonlord

[vestal badge]

ohh i didnt know it had an original name

er, forgot

[vestal badge]

how many deus are there and where do they come from

[split mortar]

We dont know
Draedon hypothesises the one we fight is a juvenile due to it eating an astral star and that the cosmos would be in wreck if the only deus in the universe was out of the picture for a while iirc
Space species they come from space

[errant swallow]

also what is signus,ceasless,and storm weaver lore?

[vestal badge]

i mean like

what births them...

[mighty zenith]

we have no idea where deus came from

it's a space creature

[vestal badge]

is it just like "a species" period?

they feed on stars and poop out their babies?

[split mortar]

All we know is worm and eats stars

And dumb enough to be astrald

[vestal badge]

awesome

[errant swallow]

?

[vestal badge]

storm weaver is basically just another worm from the distortion but smal

[split mortar]

Ceaseless is a portal made by noxus for unknown reasons back in dragon age
Others can explain the other two better then me

[abstract hedge]

Signus is a Faustian bargainer from the distortion who was worshipped by the onyx kinsmen, ceaseless is a portal to the distortion that was stabilized and had enchantments put on it for it to defend itself, and SW is just a being similarish to DoG. All 3 are outside of the distortion hivemind I'm pretty sure.

[vestal badge]

Oh wow

we did that simulatnously

[split mortar]

Not really
DoG is for some reason afraid of it
Thats concerning as fuck probably

[vestal badge]

WHAT??

[mighty zenith]

i think its less to defend itself but rathed to prevent just anyone from entering it

[light moth]

Sort of

[abstract hedge]

Weaver isn't the same species as DoG anymore.

[errant swallow]

why is it afraid

[split mortar]

Yharim admits dog is afraid of weaver growing
@pliant ruin when you exist speak your theory

[errant swallow]

why are there so many species of worms

[split mortar]

Fabsolian game design the lore had to be built around

[limpid saddle]

because they were the easiest kind of boss to implement

[abstract hedge]

The old lore was kinda ridiculous like DoG's species was just a species of worm that takes abilities from what it eats and after DoG became well known everyone wiped the species out.

[mighty zenith]

3 space themed worm bosses 🥹

[abstract hedge]

Storm Weaver should be pre hardmode or something imo.

[rotund shore]

500 Worms

[limpid saddle]

i wonder what the astrum deus rework will look like

[abstract hedge]

Maybe switch it with evil 2 bosses so aerialite has a connection to it cause sky.

[vestal badge]

i hope at least 1 or 2 worm bosses get entirely changed into something else

[split mortar]

Nah with the theory cheese has i think post ml fits

[errant swallow]

its getting a rework?

[mighty zenith]

they made him seem so potentially strong but also treated him like an absolute fraud who's just a huge pussy

[split mortar]

Desert scourge becoming lizard

With legs

[abstract hedge]

I'm so excited to see what fables does for deus once it's eventually added cause it won't be a worm...

[errant swallow]

trueeee

[split mortar]

And so will probably aqua scoog

[vestal badge]

i didnt know this

[limpid saddle]

presumably basically everythings getting a touch-up of some kind

[mighty zenith]

idk if fables will even have astral

[vestal badge]

how would that even work

[dusk laurel]

[mighty zenith]

they have the power of hindsight and dont need to add it

[abstract hedge]

Is it still gonna be a worm boss?

[split mortar]

@mighty zenith rename me to Siffrin Gun
Itd be funny

[abstract hedge]

hognar

[dusk laurel]

it will still be a segmented boss but its very different to what a worm boss is

it has legs

[errant swallow]

there should be more bosses in the desert and evil biomes

[mighty zenith]

nah

[abstract hedge]

Oh good

[limpid saddle]

fuck no

[errant swallow]

why?

[split mortar]

It would be segmented but would have completely unique ai to fit its new sprite
Also better cause it wont be fabsolian anymore

[mighty zenith]

calamity does not need more bosses

[split mortar]

Calamity has
Too many
Bosses

[limpid saddle]

the ocean gets 1 the desert gets 2 they'll be fine

[rotund shore]

Evil Biome Having Two Bosses Is Fine But No Next To Each Other

[split mortar]

Desert has two?

[limpid saddle]

great sand shark

[abstract hedge]

There's already an additional evil boss (which will be moved to much later on so they're not right after the evil 1 bosses). One desert boss is fine.

[dusk laurel]

no

great sand shark is a miniboss

[limpid saddle]

I know its technically a miniboss but i count it

[split mortar]

Thats like a strong enemy or miniboss

[errant swallow]

idk it feels like evil biome is important for like only a little time

[dusk laurel]

youre dumb then

[rotund shore]

Gss Is Not A Boss Unless Youre Infernum Maxxingg

[mighty zenith]

its a... stronger monster...

[limpid saddle]

YOU'RE DUMB

[dusk laurel]

WHAT.

[rotund shore]

Say That Again

[split mortar]

Thats why they plan to move the evil 2 to post ml

[rotund shore]

Naming The Player Frisk On World Creation To Activate Hard Mode

[abstract hedge]

Evil 2 bosses are planned to get tierswapped with dragonfolly iirc.

[split mortar]

Yup

Folly is random bird

[limpid saddle]

imagine how much larger those fuckers are gonna be

[split mortar]

Fits prehardmode better

[rotund shore]

Evil 2 Bosses Desperately Need To Be Moved

[errant swallow]

so that means perf and hivemind to post ml

?

[dusk laurel]

both will be reworked to be completely different of course

[split mortar]

Yes

[abstract hedge]

Yes

[errant swallow]

phew

[abstract hedge]

And pre HM dragonfolly.

[errant swallow]

also why is the jungle so important in lore

[mighty zenith]

its not

[errant swallow]

it has 4 bosses

[abstract hedge]

It isn't

[limpid saddle]

it really isnt

[errant swallow]

with prolly yharim coming

[mighty zenith]

it used to be ridiculously important but its not

[rotund shore]

Yharim Is Not Jungle

[mighty zenith]

it has queen bee, plantera, golem, pbg and folly

[rotund shore]

Yharim Will Be In An Entirely Unrelated Subworld If I Am Not Mistaken

[limpid saddle]

jungle has 2 bees, a plant, & a rock guy

[mighty zenith]

which is still way too much but yknow

[limpid saddle]

& three of those are from base terraria

[mighty zenith]

folly can be moved easily

nothing about it says jungle anymore

[abstract hedge]

Calamity adds like 20 bosses of course it adds 2 to the jungle.

[errant swallow]

it adds 5

[abstract hedge]

And folly should just be like Yharon and not any specific biome imo.

[spare pier]

Fuck you mean 5

There are like

2

[abstract hedge]

It doesn't

[mighty zenith]

3 vanilla bosses

[limpid saddle]

what?

[dusk laurel]

dragonfolly -> swarm boss in the sky that uses the abilities of dead dragons
perfs -> evil body horror hydra based off of the war god
hivemind -> psychological horror boss thats sort of like a god corpse, based off of the god of dogma

[mighty zenith]

2 cal bosses

[abstract hedge]

It adds 2, folly and plague.

[limpid saddle]

Yharon isnt a jungle fight

[errant swallow]

oh wait add

[rotund shore]

Pbg And Folly

Rest Are Vanilla

[errant swallow]

what does swarm boss mean

[mighty zenith]

golem is jungle technically but the temple is its own minibiome

[abstract hedge]

I said ADDS not vanilla bosses.

[errant swallow]

roar of the jungle dragon

[mighty zenith]

outdated

[abstract hedge]

That's just the music name

[errant swallow]

id consider jungle

[limpid saddle]

thats a song from like 8 years ago dude

[rotund shore]

Yharon Can Be Fought Anyway

[limpid saddle]

yharon can be fought anywhere

he isnt even from the jungle

[mighty zenith]

the ost name is the only thing about yharon that is still jungle related because changing the name is like impossible

[spare pier]

Also Yharon has not 8een the Jungle Dragon ingame for 300 years

[dusk laurel]

the word swarm means a large group of aggressive creatures

[limpid saddle]

hes the dragon of rebirth

[rotund shore]

Which Makes Sense Because He Is Actively Heading To Attack You

[mighty zenith]

too iconic + contacting dokuro about it would feel weird

[abstract hedge]

Yharon can be fought anywhere that means it quite literally isn't a jungle boss.

[split mortar]

Thats like 5 years older then the current iteration of lore

[dusk laurel]

yharon isnt a jungle boss anymore yeah lmao

[abstract hedge]

Even then that'd still only be 3 not 5.

[errant swallow]

bro

[mighty zenith]

literally just a consequence of dokuro not coming up with a better name

[errant swallow]

its so confusing WHEN THEY CHANGE THE WHOLE DAMN LORE

[dusk laurel]

the old lore sucked

[abstract hedge]

That was almost 3 years ago

[limpid saddle]

thats mean its a good track name

[errant swallow]

this still pisses me off

[mighty zenith]

no the song is goof

[abstract hedge]

The old lore sucked and was very incoherent.

[mighty zenith]

good

i dont like the name

[errant swallow]

what was the old lore again?

[split mortar]

New lore writers came in since old ones left idk what you expected to happen

[abstract hedge]

Yharim didn't have any motivation that made sense.

[mighty zenith]

its just kinda. not all that special

[rotund shore]

Good Song But Incorrect Name Now

[spare pier]

Random 8ullshit that made no fucking sense

[abstract hedge]

There was an ancient war of angels and demons literally only mentioned once.

[mighty zenith]

infernal catharsis is a badass name for example

[limpid saddle]

yharim punched a table so hard everyone in the room died

[abstract hedge]

Dragons aren't explained.

[mighty zenith]

and fits both versions of yharon

[dusk laurel]

infernal catharsis my beloved

[errant swallow]

what?

[split mortar]

Also theres a document to help inteoduce new people to the current lore

[limpid saddle]

thats old lore

[abstract hedge]

DoG was just a worm that ate enough people to become sapient.

[split mortar]

That happened in old lore
Everyone on the planet also felt it iirc

[mighty zenith]

well there were a lot of differences

[abstract hedge]

Draedon was from space

[mighty zenith]

overall it was just a lot of concepts that werent expanded or elaborated on

pretty inconsistent writing in general

[split mortar]

#lore-discussion message
that document

[errant swallow]

did it literally happen?

[abstract hedge]

The sea kingdom was destroyed cause Yharim wanted to summon ML for god knows why

[limpid saddle]

yeah

[spare pier]

Yeah!!!!!!!!

[split mortar]

In old lore yes

[spare pier]

It happened!!!!!!!!

It sucked!!!!!!!!

[abstract hedge]

Uh what else

[limpid saddle]

calamitas was just some psycho witch in a cave yharim enslaved somehow

[split mortar]

Deus could eat irl giant stars iirc
Providence could not end a planet iirc

[mighty zenith]

draedon was an alien that yharim found for some reason

[abstract hedge]

Deus was killed by DoG for some reaso

[errant swallow]

tf?

[limpid saddle]

she was also immortal & could not die, the same was canon for the terrarian

xeroc was a gestalt god

[abstract hedge]

Oh yeah terrarian was made by Silva

[errant swallow]

was astralgaedon old lore?

[split mortar]

Old lore moment

[split mortar]

Old old lore

[rotund shore]

This Is One Of The Worst Parts Of Old Lore Genuinely

[mighty zenith]

geldon didnt have like, any lore i think

[limpid saddle]

he didnt really have lore

[spare pier]

I'm realizing that most people who are like "oh my God they changed the lore" actually knew jack fucking shit a8out it

[abstract hedge]

Very old lore, removed before the rewrite.

[mighty zenith]

it was super irrelevant

[mighty zenith]

yeah?

i thought this was obvious lol

[spare pier]

I need to remem8er my 8s 8ro

[rotund shore]

8ro

[errant swallow]

ik the old lore is bad but
its still kinda confusing sometimes

[mighty zenith]

people just make shit up about old lore because they dont actually know what it was

[split mortar]

Old lore got many rewrites over its life while the current version with current writers aims for less constanr rewrites

[errant swallow]

im not angry at them for changing old lore

[mighty zenith]

and then pretend that it was better than the new lore that they ALSO know jackshit about

[abstract hedge]

What's confusing about the new lore?

[limpid saddle]

(also why is reb cosplaying vriska homestuck?)

[errant swallow]

IM SAYING ITS KIND OF CONFUSING WITH OLD AND NEW LORE

[spare pier]

Why do you think dipshit?

[split mortar]

That they gotta replace the old lore info with

[rotund shore]

That Is Vriska Homestuck

[mighty zenith]

as long as you stick to what's in-game

[limpid saddle]

thats mean

[spare pier]

Sorry that was mean

[split mortar]

#lore-discussion messagethis doc exists to help with that

[errant swallow]

why are you getting angry bro

[limpid saddle]

im gonna guess autism though

[abstract hedge]

A small price for the lore actually making sense.

[mighty zenith]

there's very very very few old lore leftovers now

[errant swallow]

i mean

[spare pier]

Anyways no we are plural 8ro

I'm new here say hi

[limpid saddle]

thats true

[rotund shore]

Hello Vriska

[errant swallow]

ive still seen some old lore stuff and got confused

[split mortar]

Siffrin

[limpid saddle]

is vriska the new headmate

[spare pier]

Yup

[limpid saddle]

did they incarnate her into their subconscious

[mighty zenith]

reb absorbs the souls of her victims into her headspace

melon gun is next.

[limpid saddle]

nobody deserves the fate of having a british man trapped in their head

[errant swallow]

anyway

[dusk laurel]

rebecca is a seasoned criminal smh

[mighty zenith]

they them gif

[errant swallow]

how is dog so powerful again?

i mean

[random mulch]

probably equivalent to having tinnitus

[mighty zenith]

he just. kind of is

[errant swallow]

prov is lower tier boss than it

[split mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/kris-pronouns-deltarune-kris-deltarune-deltarune-kris-pronouns-they-them-gif-6074482569525867005

[abstract hedge]

He just is that way, maybe Noxus made him/made him stronger we don't know.

[mighty zenith]

his whole thing is that he was a really convenient solution for yharim's problems

[errant swallow]

he allied with yharim?

[mighty zenith]

yeah

[limpid saddle]

born in the distortion

[abstract hedge]

Storm weaver is somehow stronger/higher tier than Providence, don't worry about it.

[limpid saddle]

ate a bunch of people

[split mortar]

Post yharim entity is involved with dog

[errant swallow]

noxus?

[abstract hedge]

That's like one of the only things still existing from old lore...

[limpid saddle]

got sick armor from draedon

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sick as in sickly btw it looks like sheet metal

[errant swallow]

yharim lowk pmo

[abstract hedge]

Distortion thing we know barely anything about. Third strongest being to ever exist behind Fovos and Xeroc.

[errant swallow]

draedon better

[limpid saddle]

writing fire gif

[dusk laurel]

i mean yeah he is mega hitler

[abstract hedge]

Good cause he's a horrible person

[split mortar]

Boss of dog
Creator of cv
Source of a hivemind in distortion
Thats
All we know really

[split mortar]

Yeah super gold hitler shiny edition is not great

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what does dei stands for...?

[errant swallow]

noxus isnt a god correct?

[vestal badge]

yup

[abstract hedge]

Plural of deus

[split mortar]

Multiple of deus

[abstract hedge]

Correct, we don't know what they are.

[errant swallow]

the way he talks pmo

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Thats fffflipping stupid woah...

[split mortar]

Its a real word

[vestal badge]

Well, i think its a dumb real word...

[split mortar]

Words are dumb in general become psychic

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yyeahh!!!

[limpid saddle]

on my knees waiting for sso part 1 to integrate all the lore people ask about all the time

[dusk laurel]

ive been waiting for sso for 3 years

[vestal badge]

part 1 ? does the update release in parts or something

[dusk laurel]

pre22 cal fan problems

[thick slate]

no sway

[errant swallow]

whats sso

[split mortar]

2 parts

Sunken sea overhaul

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woahh what do the parts focus on?

[abstract hedge]

Yuh

[split mortar]

Prehardmode and hardmode content

[limpid saddle]

part one is prehardmode

part two is hardmode

[dusk laurel]

part 1 is a bunch of non sunken sea stuff and prehardmode sunken sea content

[abstract hedge]

Part one does all prehardmode and world gen

Part 2 does stuff like crabulon iirc.

[limpid saddle]

then theres gonna be a brimstone crag overhaul

[errant swallow]

what will hm content add

[limpid saddle]

(???????????)

[dusk laurel]

part 2 is maybe a couple non sunken sea things and hm sunken sea content

[errant swallow]

ik all the sunken sea stuff

[limpid saddle]

then distortion & yharim : )

[abstract hedge]

After part 2