lore-discussion

[pliant ruin]

trees first appeared somewhere around the c arboniferous

[eager bluff]

trees uhhh are we counting modern trees or fern trees

[noble falcon]

History began a long time ago in Star Wars galaxy

[agile matrix]

yharon is “Fucking Old™”

[young socket]

2k is actually really long and any more doesnt really say anything

[spare pier]

KARKAT: FIRST OF ALL

OH MY GOD I'M WRITING THE COMMANDS

ANYWAYS FIRST OF ALL

WHEN IS THAT SAID?

AZAFURE IS TWO THOUSAND YEARS OLD

NOT YHARON

[long bloom]

dev statement iirc

[agile matrix]

why are you yelling

[young socket]

nah

[spare pier]

OK THAT'S WRONG THEN BECAUSE YHARON IS NOT TWO THOUSAND YEARS OLD

ALSO I'M YELLING BECAUSE I YELL

[young socket]

draedon says records of yharim can be found in the oldest azafure records

[spare pier]

I'M NOT ANGRY

[hybrid barn]

Wait, so is the argument that he should be older or younger than Azafure?

[young socket]

and azafure is 2k years old

[spare pier]

I JUST YELL

[eager bluff]

thats just karkat she does that

[night barn]

i really don't think there's any plot hole in the world soul dying 2k ish years ago (or at least fairly recently in a historical sense)

in 2000 years humanity went from jesus christ to brainrot

[pliant ruin]

she's just like that

[plucky juniper]

doesnt really matter, tree is a lifestyle not a phylogenetic group

[leaden bridge]

it is a little funny just how quick everything develops, according to draedon himself he went covert and in around 40 years people started talking about his machines like they were legends when realistically a 60 year old would have living memory

[night barn]

which is to say changed drastically

[agile matrix]

oh is that

[abstract hedge]

Give me an example other than "people existing".

[plucky juniper]

we literally refer to bamboo as trees, even though they're a type of

grass

[night barn]

and calamity's world would be incredibly accelerated by the existence of uh

magic

yknow

[agile matrix]

same with palm trees

[hybrid barn]

Wait, so is the argument that he should be older or younger than Azafure?
(Saying it again because the first one got buried)

[young socket]

imagine trying to convince the world that entirely metallic creatures that bled a weird black substance existed

[eager bluff]

i directly stated "its not a lot of history but it is still history"

[pliant ruin]

well to be fair yeah trees arent an actual biological classification

[spare pier]

ANYWAYS POINT IS THAT CALAMITY'S RECORDED HISTORY GOES EVEN FURTHER THAN HUMANITY'S OWN RECORDED HISTORY

[pliant ruin]

trees are like. based on vibes

[agile matrix]

isnt the aerie older than heartlands or am i wrong

[pliant ruin]

so you could actually argue a different time for when the first trees actually showed up

[spare pier]

I'M NOT GOING TO SAY HOW MUCH THAT IS

[pliant ruin]

but like

[abstract hedge]

And their wood sucks for building (so does half of trees tbf).

[spare pier]

BUT IT'S MORE THAN 7 THOUSAND YEARS OF RECORDED HISTORY

[night barn]

there's a definition for trees but they aren't their own species

things just become trees

[pliant ruin]

the time when plants that most people would look at and generally go yep thats a tree first started showing up is the carboniferous

[noble falcon]

Calamity side story about one brave Mr Stabby going on a legendary quest to steal the soul of an auric dragon

[eager bluff]

people existing, yeah we dont have much in terms of recorded history there, but it is still history

[spare pier]

AND ULTIMATELY MY POINT STANDS THAT GOING ANY FURTHER ADDS ABSOLUTELY NOTHING TO THE STORY BESIDES SAYING THAT TIME PASSED

[pliant ruin]

which i mean technically you could argue semantics that they showed up later or earlier but generally i think most people would say carboniferous

[spare pier]

BESIDES YEAH

THAT PEOPLE EXISTED

BUT LIKE WHY THE FUCK DO WE NEED TO SAY THAT YEAH PEOPLE DIDN'T SPAWN 2 THOUSAND YEARS AGO WITH AZAFURE

[plucky juniper]

karkat type in all caps one more time and im going to bewitch you to never be able to type capital letters ever again

[agile matrix]

thats how they speak though

[leaden bridge]

Not that hard if there's a couple plenty 50 to 90 year olds who also have living memory

[abstract hedge]

There's no written recordings or such though.
There's 0 point for Yharon to be older.

[spare pier]

THAT'S TODDLER LEVELS OF MENTALITY THAT THE ENTIRE UNIVERSE HAPPENED 2 THOUSAND YEARS AGO BECAUSE WE ONLY COUNT SHIT FROM WHEN JESUS WAS BORN

[agile matrix]

itd be like me talking spanish

[spare pier]

OF COURSE SHIT WAS HAPPENING BEFORE THAT

[agile matrix]

jesus!!! christmas!!!!!

[eager bluff]

written recordings dont mean it didnt happen 🥹

i also wasnt even talking about yharon

i know him being older doesnt matter

[night barn]

i should do work because i am at work

bye guys

[spare pier]

BYE

[night barn]

keep talking about uhhhhh

carbon? iferous?

[hybrid barn]

Carbs

[noble falcon]

Did you know that Trashers have remained mostly identical to their prehistoric counterparts?

[agile matrix]

sharks are older than trees

[spare pier]

ALSO THIS ISN'T EVEN TALKING ABOUT HOW PAST A CERTAIN POINT NUMBERS JUST STOP MATTERING AND BECOME "A LONG FUCKING TIME"

OUR BRAINS CANNOT UNDERSTAND THE DIFFERENCE BETWEEN 500 MILLION YEARS AND A BILLION YEARS

[agile matrix]

you are true

[spare pier]

IT'S JUST A LONG FUCKING TIME

[long bloom]

it's at least double

[agile matrix]

a true is you

[long bloom]

i think

[spare pier]

SO IT'S BETTER TO STICK TO LOWER NUMBERS

BECAUSE THEN THEY ACTUALLY MEAN SOMETHING

[agile matrix]

a bajillion years ago there were certainly something

[pliant ruin]

And oysters are older than sharks

and trees

and fish

and most animals

and most living organisms actually

[agile matrix]

how are oysters

[pliant ruin]

that arent like

[agile matrix]

what

[pliant ruin]

single celled

oysters have been here since the cambrian its fucked up

was it oysters actually? it mightve been something else

[noble falcon]

A Bajillion BC: the first gold water strider emerges, and shapes the world

[night barn]

trees are busted

[agile matrix]

in the beginning there was a really big guy

[night barn]

most op life form

[agile matrix]

he had a soul of universe

[pliant ruin]

ok yeah no yeah

oysters

it's in fact oysters

they been here since the early cambrian

[noble falcon]

And oh boy
He got up to some stuff, did he ever

[pliant ruin]

oysters older than bugs. or fish. or plants. or fungi

[night barn]

makes sense

most things in early cambrian were shelly

[plucky juniper]

i can tell the difference because well. there were a lot of animals 500 mya ago and 1 billion years ago there werent

[pliant ruin]

they were either very shelly or very squishy with not much inbetween

[noble falcon]

I just saw the kurzgesagt video on them the other day and yeah they’re up there on the existing tier list

[plucky juniper]

sponges, in the grand scheme of things, might have actually originated 800 million years ago byeah

[frosty charm]

How are oysters

[pliant ruin]

they old

[noble falcon]

I hope they’re doing alright

[pliant ruin]

this means giant clam is the strongest calamity character and actually more powerful than xeroc

[frosty charm]

I don't. I hate oysters.

[noble falcon]

Someone died to giant clam bc they waited until hard mode to get Amadias

[frosty charm]

I haven't fought that thing in like a year

[plucky juniper]

the giant clam when the big sponge shows up:

[pliant ruin]

youre not missing out on much it teleports above you and falls down

and uhh

it uh spawns clams

yep it usr does

and it uhhh

yeah

[young socket]

xeroc doesnt recreat giant clam

[pliant ruin]

oh dont forget it gets some projectiles on hardmode

how thrilling

[noble falcon]

Yharim quaking in his auric boots when I put a bunch of sunken sea blocks to the aerie and make the clam fight him

[young socket]

this is because giant clam is too strong for xerok

[pliant ruin]

exactly

[hybrid barn]

Giant Clam should get a second buff post-Yharim

[noble falcon]

That would be awesome actually

Post game superboss

[young socket]

giant clam with yharim soul

[leaden bridge]

Tyrant Clam

[night barn]

im pretty sure fish also aren't real

like i don't think there's a common fish ancestor

[leaden bridge]

That's birds you're thinking of

They're government drones

[night barn]

birds definitely do exist

[pliant ruin]

fish are real to some extent but theyre paraphyletic so at some point the exact definition of what is and isnt a fish gets muddy

technically speaking if we're being very objective here

[plucky juniper]

because fish is an arbitrary term for underwater vertebrates that arent tetrapods

[pliant ruin]

every single vertebrate is a fish

[plucky juniper]

or that

[leaden bridge]

All living creatures are just cells

[pliant ruin]

well there's viruses

those might. might put a wrench on that

debatably

[night barn]

so they're kinda real

[pliant ruin]

argubaly

[leaden bridge]

They literally don't count

[pliant ruin]

they're kinda real

[noble falcon]

Viruses are in their own little corner of existence

[night barn]

i don't think viruses are considered living

[plucky juniper]

its especially problematic with the part about what separates a really early tetrapod from their lobe-finned ancestors

[night barn]

they don't do a lot of living creature things

like cellular respiration

is generally pretty important

[leaden bridge]

It's actually kind of crazy we have a definition that works really well for everything but exactly one kind of thing

[noble falcon]

Is Yharim a fish
When we get to the aerie will he take off his helmet and have a fish head like shovel knight

[pliant ruin]

well hes a human

[leaden bridge]

Auric soldier sir nauti

[pliant ruin]

and i mean

[leaden bridge]

Lus

[pliant ruin]

humans, are fish

if

if we're being technical here

[leaden bridge]

He could not be human it's technically never confirmed

[pliant ruin]

the fish is you someone post the emoji i cant i dont have nitro

@dusk laurel hey yo udo it for me

[pliant ruin]

thats true he could theoretically be not human

he could be like

in theory a dwarf

[leaden bridge]

He could like be a goat guy

[pliant ruin]

or a goblin

[leaden bridge]

Or something

[pliant ruin]

he could be a goblin

there is a non zero chance hes a goblin

[leaden bridge]

It's true

[noble falcon]

He could be you
He could be me!

[dusk laurel]

[night barn]

isn't everything technically a fish because we all came outta the water

[pliant ruin]

thanks

[night barn]

but like

[leaden bridge]

We wouldn't call plants fish

[night barn]

that's getting counterproductively semantic

i mean animals

[dusk laurel]

why did discord ping me with your old pfp

[pliant ruin]

every vertebrate is a fish but then theres also like bugs and shit

[leaden bridge]

Well there's animals that didn't came out the water

[pliant ruin]

did you know that uhhh

ears i think? was it ears

i think it was ears

[leaden bridge]

Because they stayed inside

[pliant ruin]

ears are actually just derived from extremely modified gills

[night barn]

ears came from fish

[spare pier]

EVERYTHING CAME FROM FISH DIPSHIT

THAT'S HOW EVOLUTION WORKS

[plucky juniper]

really the real problem is asking if THIS is fish

[dusk laurel]

wasnt the jaw from a modified gill bone

[pliant ruin]

unless you're a bug

if you're a bug you didn't come from fish

or like a worm.

[night barn]

every vertebrate yes

[pliant ruin]

mollusks fall somewhere inbetween bug and worm

[leaden bridge]

It's a ish

Wrong reply

It dropped the f

[night barn]

fish are strictly vertebrates no

[dusk laurel]

[leaden bridge]

Didn't pay respects

[pliant ruin]

it gets funky once you get to chordates

[plucky juniper]

its not, but it is likely a very early chordate so ya

[pliant ruin]

because theyre like

theyre not really vertebrates

but theyre also. not really invertebrates

theyre like, transitional basically

[noble falcon]

Yharim made a big mistake dumping Silva into the abyss
Not bc of any of the stuff after the fact, but because like, why would you put a fish BACK in the ocean after it wronged you

[pliant ruin]

the notochord is the prototype to what would later be the actual bony spine

so like

.... do those count as fish

see that's why they're only kinda real

it gets weird at some point

[leaden bridge]

Why would you put silva back in the place she like does things with

Well wr guess there's nowhere better

[spare pier]

I thought this was a Discord server

[leaden bridge]

Just have draedon make a rocket throw her into space

[noble falcon]

Yharim supports catch and release and puts the problematic fish of life back into the sea

[leaden bridge]

How kind of him

[pliant ruin]

yharim probably killed silva after the divorce

[night barn]

well yeah it's the other way around

[plucky juniper]

Like, this looks a hella lot like a fish, and it's a chordate...

[pliant ruin]

otherwise i think hed have asked draedon to send her to space tbh he would do that

[spare pier]

THAT DOESN'T LOOK LIKE A FISH

[leaden bridge]

It's a fish for aure

[leaden bridge]

It wouldn't be that hard surely

[spare pier]

I THINK THAT JUST WOULDN'T WORK

[plucky juniper]

...but the problem is that its more likely that THIS is closer related to fish

and no im serious

[pliant ruin]

i fucking hate tunicates

[leaden bridge]

This is a human being

[pliant ruin]

eldritch horror beyond my comprehension except its a real animal that exists and i unfortunately share the world with

fuck you

[night barn]

yeah fishes don't really exist

like they do

but not biologically

i don't think

[pliant ruin]

fishes are fucked up dude

[night barn]

you can't look at a guy and see who the guy is related to and be oh yeah that's a fish

[plucky juniper]

if this is your first time learning about tunicates, sorry, this is probably the closest relative to the craniate (which contains vertebrates) lineage

[noble falcon]

You know what’s awesome
Roly polys and giant isopods are like the same thing
Would they be friends

[dusk laurel]

cheese youre secretly a tunicate

[leaden bridge]

Yes

[dusk laurel]

admit it

[leaden bridge]

Isopods are the king of rolypoly

[spare pier]

BUT ALSO IT'S HARD TO EXPLAIN THE ACTUAL LOGIC BEHIND THIS BECAUSE BEING REAL I DON'T HAVE ONE RIGHT NOW

[pliant ruin]

hey cheese, whats your favorite animal! im asked

i start sweating. i panic. my body grows cold. what the fuck do i answer. ah yes, fish. fish arent real. i cant say anything. i cant do anything. help me

[leaden bridge]

Just say penguin

[plucky juniper]

also, another tunicate: a colony of pyrosomes

[spare pier]

BUT LIKE IF YOU THROW SILVA OFF TERRARIA SHE'S JUST GONNA COME BACK ANYWAYS

[pliant ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-fish-im-fine-gif-27296467

[leaden bridge]

Nobody cares what type and it's very normal

[noble falcon]

One important part of lore is that Yharim just likes the jungle bees. He enjoys them wholeheartedly.
Are bees fish?

[plucky juniper]

what if i turn her into salad and consume her with that

[night barn]

if you're asked your favourite animal and you say fish i think you are wrong

that's like

[leaden bridge]

And if someone does ask what type you can just answer with a movie name

[spare pier]

YOU'RE NOT DENJI

[night barn]

what's your favourite animal

oh yeah i like reptiles

[pliant ruin]

look i think that's valid

sometimes you just cant pick

and thats ok

[leaden bridge]

"the ones in happy feet, the ones in Madagascar, the ones in surf up"

[night barn]

reptile isn't an animal

[leaden bridge]

it's really easy

[pliant ruin]

it cna be if you try hard enough

just like how cnidrion is a seahorse

[noble falcon]

But fish is

[pliant ruin]

despite being called fuckin CNIDRION

[night barn]

sometimes we're trying too hard

[pliant ruin]

i think

i think like genuinely

[cloud ibex]

snakes

[leaden bridge]

🦎

[pliant ruin]

reptile is far more of a valid answer than fish is actually

reptile is more of an animal than fish

[night barn]

well yes

[pliant ruin]

like, objectively speaking

[spare pier]

ELEMENTALS AREN'T JUST THEIR BODY

[night barn]

but it's the same concept

[pliant ruin]

reptiles are atleast real

[plucky juniper]

right

[spare pier]

IF YOU THREW ANY ELEMENTAL OUT OF TERRARIA YOU AREN'T GETTING RID OF THEM YOU'RE JUST MAKING SURE THEIR BODY ISN'T COMING BACK

[noble falcon]

Are the sentinels fish
I get ceaseless is like a weird construct thing but it has the wing things and one could argue those developed from fins

[spare pier]

AND THAT MEANS JACK AND SHIT

[leaden bridge]

What if you say reptile and the guy you're talking to says something about birds

[pliant ruin]

I imagine it'd probably delay her return in the same way the abyss does but like. more because she's entirely gone from terraria so she has to reform from 0 rather than reform from like. 2

[spare pier]

YES BUT ALSO CONSIDER THE FOLLOWING THREE OPTIONS

[night barn]

well yeah bird is technically reptile no

[noble falcon]

Start talking about the movie Free Birds and why it’s epic

[night barn]

but nobody would call a bird a reptile

that would be dumb

[noble falcon]

That’s right
We’re going back in time to the Draconic Era to get gods OFF THE MENU

[leaden bridge]

Thanksgiving would be better if instead of turkeys it were like pasta

[plucky juniper]

well at least you can EASILY just note that birds are dinosaurs and be content with that at least

[leaden bridge]

That's fair

[pliant ruin]

yeah my favorite animal is a fish

and then it's like

a dog

because you see haha dogs are technically fish aha

i am so #smart

[night barn]

ie don't get it

[pliant ruin]

this has barely been about calamity lore for the past like hour we're just talking about fish now

[leaden bridge]

Dogs are very funny once you ignore the whole abusive crossbreeding thing

[plucky juniper]

and besides, regardless of whether or not archaeopteryx and velociraptor or microraptor are birds or not, at least you can say that every dinosaur alive today is a bird

[noble falcon]

It was pizza
We found the fake free birds fan

[leaden bridge]

We know

We're just saying

[pliant ruin]

well dogs are tetrapods. tetrapods are vertebrates. yk

tecnically dog is fish

[spare pier]

1 - THE DISTORTION? SHITASS PLACE TO THROW HER. SHE'S GOING TO REGENERATE AT A NORMAL PACE OR AT WORST WITHER AWAY. EITHER WAY THERE IS A CHANCE SHE WILL JUST COME BACK NORMALLY AND OOPS YOU LEFT SILVA IN THE DISTORTION NOW. WHO KNOWS WHAT WEIRD BULLSHIT SHE CAN PULL OUT WHILE THERE.

2 - SPACE? I MEAN YEAH IT'S A REASONABLE SOLUTION BUT SHE'S GONNA COME BACK ANYWAYS AND MAKING A ROCKET ISN'T EASY. PLUS SHE'S PROBABLY GOING TO REGENERATE BY THE TIME IT'S DONE UNLESS YOU HAVE ONE READY, SO IT KINDA SUCKS AS AN OPTION.

3 - ABYSS? YEAH IT'S EASY JUST THROW HER THERE AND NOW SHE'S GONNA SPEND A GOOD FEW YEARS TRYING TO REFORM HER BODY WHILE CONTENDING WITH THE PRESSURE AND ALSO WHATEVER SHE ENDS UP CLAIMING THERE ISN'T COMING TO BITE YOUR ASS LATER BECAUSE THEY WOULD INSTANTLY DIE DUE TO THE PRESSURE DIFFERENCE OR AT LEAST BE RENDERED FAR WEAKER.

[leaden bridge]

They should've done pasta

[pliant ruin]

get it

[leaden bridge]

Pizza is cool but kike

[plucky juniper]

how is she gonna come back from space

[spare pier]

ELEMENTALS AREN'T THEIR BODY

[plucky juniper]

does she grow a rocket engine out of plants

[leaden bridge]

Just make the rocket and then go get her

[plucky juniper]

just fueled solely by explosive spore production en masse

[spare pier]

ELEMENTALS AREN'T THEIR FUCKING BODY SHE WOULD JUST REGROW IN TERRARIA

[noble falcon]

Toss that wacky fish Silva into the terrarian sun and be done with it
I defy her to come back from that

[night barn]

dog is dog

fish dont say woof

[pliant ruin]

You know fair point actually maybe sending her to space is more effort than its worth for probably not that much bigger of a delay compared to just throwing her in the abyss

[pliant ruin]

why do you HATe fun and whimsy

[spare pier]

AND ALSO IN THE INCREDIBLY OFF CHANCE THAT SHE ENDS UP HITTING LAND

[night barn]

couldn't dog like eat silva

[pliant ruin]

youre evil and mean and cruel

[spare pier]

WHO KNOWS WHAT THE FUCK SHE'S COMING BACK WITH

[pliant ruin]

it's like

[night barn]

im the ginch

[pliant ruin]

probably a bigger delay than the abyss yeah but is it really worth it to invest time and resources on all that

[spare pier]

IMAGINE IF YOU SEND SILVA INTO SPACE AND NOW OOPS HERE COMES HER 300 YEARS LATER WITH A FUCKING PLANT ARMY

[pliant ruin]

specially hwne yeah theres a risk she could do some weird shit in space

[spare pier]

THE DISTORTION IS WORSE THOUGH

[pliant ruin]

silva hits another fovos in space and now we have. silva fovos

[noble falcon]

New invasion event in the same vein as the holiday moons

[spare pier]

SENDING HER TO THE DISTORTION IS JUST FUCKING STUPID

[young socket]

if you send anahita to space would there be a risk of rain

[pliant ruin]

hello yharim here is my new pet

his name is timmy

and its literally just another moon lord at its full power

has a little flower growing on his head

[plucky juniper]

comes back with an army of little green men

that just sounds hilarious

Silva and her army of tiny green aliens

[spare pier]

SPECIALLY WHEN YOU KNOW THERE'S A FUCKER THERE WHO WOULD VERY MUCH BE ABLE TO BRING HER BACK

[noble falcon]

Not quite, but I imagine those glass frogs will be given a hard time

[pliant ruin]

who

[spare pier]

ALSO YES BUT NOT REALLY

[pliant ruin]

sigma ?

[spare pier]

DOG CAN EAT LIKE

A PART OF SILVA

BUT NOT ALL OF IT

[fiery meadow]

Noxus is a bum who doesn’t do shit

[spare pier]

yeah signut

CURSED

I FORGOT CAPS

[plucky juniper]

Too late.

[pliant ruin]

thats

actually something ive never thought about

[plucky juniper]

Your caps rights have been REVOKED.

[noble falcon]

I trap Silva in my horribly unorganized chest setup
She gets lost in a maze with no exit

[night barn]

silva is multiple parts?

is it like

[spare pier]

SHE'S AN ELEMENTAL

[night barn]

silvas body and the silva all throughout the eartg

because she's life elemental

[spare pier]

ELEMENTALS AREN'T A SINGULAR ENTITY

[pliant ruin]

what does yharim think of signus anyways
like whats their dynamic
signus seems like kind of a neutral third party all around but he's also a weird fucker from the distortion who's really powerful and who is associated iwth one of his biggest enemies

[night barn]

so dog would have to eat everything

[pliant ruin]

like i never thought too hard about these two specifically

[plucky juniper]

what if i turn all of life on terraria into brainless flesh cubes

[pliant ruin]

mainly because of how disconnected they are like

[spare pier]

THEN SILVA PROBABLY DIES

[pliant ruin]

they kinda just doing entirely separate things from eachother

[plucky juniper]

good.

[pliant ruin]

compared to like

[plucky juniper]

now i know what i need to do

[spare pier]

BUT LIKE GOOD LUCK BRO

[pliant ruin]

MOST other characters i think have some sort of clear dynamic with yharim

[spare pier]

EXTINGUISH ALL LIFE ON TERRARIA

THEN YOU KILLED SILVA

[night barn]

wonder if yharims thought about using signus before

[spare pier]

CONGRATULATIONS

[night barn]

like what's the extent of signus' power and would yharim want to take advantage of it

[spare pier]

DESTROY THE ATMOSPHERE TO KILL CLOUD WHILE YOU'RE AT IT TOO

AND ALSO ANAHITA BY PROXY

[pliant ruin]

Talking about Signus shower thought i had earlier but i think it'd be interesting if his relationship with Statis was like

[night barn]

i wonder if signus can use the power of all the auric souls dog's eaten to make deals

idk

[pliant ruin]

They're not really affiliated i don't think

[night barn]

cause otherwise idk where he'd be getting allat magic

[pliant ruin]

I think he's just kinda strong

Weird alien guy

[spare pier]

C4N YOU B3L13V3 1T GUYS?

CHR1STM4S

[pliant ruin]

Not entirely beneficial for Statis but also not entirely negative. Like i think it would be interesting if it was more nuanced than just oh yeah there's this evil guy possessing me

[spare pier]

JUST 4N HOUR 4W4Y

OH WOW

1 4M SO H4PPY 4BOUT TH1S 1NFORM4T1ON

[pliant ruin]

Like, itd be colol if like

[night barn]

perhaps

deals specifically are strange

maybe he's just like that

or maybe it'll be a theme with distortion guys idk

[pliant ruin]

the statis quest to fight signus was less of a "FREE ME FROM THIS FUCKING THING PLEASE" and more of "I've ultimately come to the conclusion that it might be for the best if i probably break my pact with this guy for now so could you help me with that"

I think deals are kind of just Signus's thing

Like that's a big part of his cahracter specifically

[spare pier]

I mean the pact was ultimately kinda shitty

[pliant ruin]

no other distortion entities we see really dabble on that

[young socket]

yea shitty but more in like

a lawyer way

[pliant ruin]

Yeah

That's a good way to put it i think

[young socket]

like "oh yea you shouldve just asked dumbass"

[pliant ruin]

Like i'm not saying it was like

A good outcome for statis

[night barn]

but we see like three real distortion entities and one is worm

[spare pier]

Signus isn't an evil guy but also he's moreso just cold

[pliant ruin]

but i also think itd be interesting if he did, in fact

[spare pier]

Like

[pliant ruin]

benefit from it to some extent

[night barn]

there's no real basis for this but im just saying it might be plausible

could be cool

[visual kiln]

arrives

[night barn]

maybe yharim did the same sorta deal with dog

[visual kiln]

Oh hi jupi

ter

[night barn]

because dog is weird

whatsup

[pliant ruin]

I feel like it'd be weird to take Signus's like main character trait and just turn it into a general distortion thing i dunno

Removes his uniqueness and all that

[spare pier]

Yes the pact is inherently extremely bad for Statis but Signus wasn't rubbing his hands going "yessss sign the pact I'm the Devil from the Bible"

[pliant ruin]

DoG already has alot going for him

[night barn]

probably yeah

[pliant ruin]

I don't think he needs to steal signus's gimmick too

[night barn]

just trying to find some sort of continuity

[spare pier]

It was just

[pliant ruin]

HEYYYYYYYYY STATISSSS

ITS MEEEE

[night barn]

cause rn signus just does deals

[spare pier]

"Sign the pact. I want this."

[pliant ruin]

SIGNUSSS FROM THE DISTORTIONNNN

[spare pier]

"You want this."

[night barn]

for fun and games

[young socket]

🔥

[spare pier]

"We both win but I also win 300 more times than you."

[pliant ruin]

Yeah i think Signus being cold but not outright evil is good for him likee

[night barn]

there could also be a reason for it that's just contained to signus and doesn't need to involve all of the distortion lol

[spare pier]

The best way to put it quite simply is

Signus is a bussinessman

[young socket]

if the devil from the faust tales was also a lawyer

[spare pier]

He is going to exploit you as much as he can

But he's not evil

Ironically I think that makes him more like the Devil lol

[pliant ruin]

We already have Noxus/DoG as the Comically Evil Evil Ass Distortion Guys and i think Signus's role as a dealmaker lends to him naturally being more amiable but also it dosen't mean he's a Good Guy. he just has to be approachable

And it can make him a more interesting character than just

random evil glupshit 350235

him being basically a lawyer checks out yeah 😭 😭

by all means

[spare pier]

Signus doesn't use evil mind control techniques to make you accept his deals

He uses yourself and your temptations to get what he wants

Fuck he's the Devil man

[pliant ruin]

hes so fucking cool. hes so fucking cool. hes so fucking co

please i needhim to be reworked please im begging

why are 2 of my

why are 2 of my favorite characters in this damn mod

distortion creatures that currently suck absolute ass but have some of the coolest fucking plans in the entire mod

qwhy must i suffer

literally my roster of favorite character is like

calamitas, xeroc, signus, storm weaver, agnus

2 of those are distortion bosses that suck ass currently but have insanely cool plans two of my favorite character are Distortion Potential Men

i'm doomed

[plucky juniper]

why is my favorite weapon in all of gaming (Ark of the Cosmos) in this damn mod

[visual kiln]

tetanus joe

[cloud ibex]

idk man because iban or whoever designed the weapon was cooking

[cloud ibex]

pumpkin pie fan

[spare pier]

AOTC HAS PROBLEMS

BUT IT'S AWESOME FOR THE MOST PART

[plucky juniper]

what problems

[spare pier]

BIG RIP

[plucky juniper]

i think it underperforms i dunno

[spare pier]

BIG RIP ACCOMPLISHES A GRAND TOTAL OF JACK AND SHIT

IT DOESN'T EVEN LOOK THAT COOL

EVERYTHING ELSE? PEAK AS SHIT

BIG RIP?

YEAH MAN

I DON'T KNOW WHAT WAS THE GOAL WITH THAT ONE

[plucky juniper]

you're wrong

[night barn]

signus being like

by far the most significant and interesting of the distortion trio is kinda sad

[spare pier]

HOW

TELL ME

WHAT DOES BIG RIP ACCOMPLISH?

[night barn]

because he still is just part of the distortion trio

[spare pier]

IT DOES NOT SLOT IN AOTC'S GAMEPLAY LOOP IN THE SLIGHTLEST

[plucky juniper]

it works if you're a burst damage lover like me

[spare pier]

BUT IT DOESN'T EVEN DEAL GOOD DAMAGE AND 90% OF THE TIME JUST LAUNCHES YOU INTO DANGER

[plucky juniper]

and by burst damage you mean "1 hit big damage"

[spare pier]

WHILE ALSO HAVING A RIDICULOUSLY SCUFFED KEYBIND

[plucky juniper]

the launching part? that is fair

[abstract hedge]

Honestly the distortion trio should be split apart across progression cause they're not related anymore.

[plucky juniper]

damage? also fair

[spare pier]

LIKE OK THE IDEA OF "Here's the ultimate attack of the weapon" IS COOL

[plucky juniper]

which is probably why thats going away and i now understand

[spare pier]

BUT THEN THE ATTACK ISN'T EVEN THE MAIN POINT OF THE THING, THE DAMAGE SUCKS AND IT DOESN'T SLOT INTO THE GAMEPLAY LOOP AT ALL

[plucky juniper]

then obviously buff the damage lol

[spare pier]

BIG RIP CAN'T WORK AS A SEPARATE THING BECAUSE EITHER SPAMMING IT IS THE WAY OF PLAYING THE WEAPON OR JUST USING IT NORMALLY IS

[abstract hedge]

Like SW late pre hardmode, signis early post-ML, ceaseless right before DoG.

[spare pier]

AND I THINK THE ACTUAL GAMEPLAY LOOP OF ARK IS WAY MORE ENTICING THAN PARRY > BIG RIP ALL THE WAY THROUGH

[plucky juniper]

well thats just you

[spare pier]

NO I THINK THAT'S MOST PEOPLE

[plucky juniper]

not all.

[pliant ruin]

the distortion trio suffers from the unfortunate fate of

being glorified minibosses ngl

:sob

😭

[spare pier]

BRO

[pliant ruin]

and not even well designed ones at that because yeah fabsol,

but its ok

surely

with the reworks

surely

theyll be actually good. SURELYT

[spare pier]

HOW IS SPAMMING BIG RIP MORE FUN THAN THE ACTUALLY DESIGNED PART OF THE WEAPON?

[plucky juniper]

you'd be surprised

but yeah it definitely feels more meatier to swing normally

[pliant ruin]

surely weaver and signus will achieve their potential and then people will stop throwing tomatoes at me and laughing at how instead of having a cool favorite character like draedon or yharim i like the stupid worm and the stupid emo

[abstract hedge]

I think they should be split apart across progression and not directly needed for DoG, at least not fought right before it.

[ruby heart]

The caps lock

[plucky juniper]

and the big rip certainly could do more damage and definitely get better visuals to convey that

[spare pier]

OH HI TRIANGLE

[fiery meadow]

So like, is there a lore reason why the Elementals somehow aren’t strong enough to overwhelm Yharim and his forces entirely?
Somehow mortal enough to be imprisoned in the ocean, but so unstoppable that they just rule over entire parts of the world as their domain

[pliant ruin]

They're doing that im pretty sure

[spare pier]

I'M HEADMATE #5

[pliant ruin]

homestuck

it's always homestuck

[ruby heart]

Weaver

[spare pier]

WHERE DO THEY "RULE"?

[ruby heart]

I still have motivation to work on weaver

[spare pier]

BRIMSTONE IS THE ONLY ONE THAT REALLY "RULES" ANYTHING

[pliant ruin]

2 of my favorite cahracters in this mod being potential men free me

[spare pier]

ALL THE OTHERS ARE JUST FUCKING AROUND

[pliant ruin]

you can literally beat all of them except silva ingame they dont really have much special in terms of powers other than the functionally immortal part

i dont see why this is even a question that needs to be asked

[plucky juniper]

well then they do a shitty job of ruling

i might as well concoct a way to absorb their power in a similar way to how people became gods via slurping auric souls

[spare pier]

YEAH BECAUSE THEY DON'T RULE ANYTHING

[ruby heart]

He will be renamed

[spare pier]

THEY ARE EMBODIEMENTS OF THINGS

[pliant ruin]

yeah she literally just said they dont rule anything

[visual kiln]

meet potential

[spare pier]

AND HAVE TERRITORIES

[pliant ruin]

brimmy is the only one that kinda does because she burns shit in azafure

[plucky juniper]

territories?

[spare pier]

WELL OK

[visual kiln]

@pliant ruin

[spare pier]

BRIMSTONE HAS A TERRITORY

[plucky juniper]

yknow? things you rule over?

[visual kiln]

pulse raptor

[pliant ruin]

thank god

[spare pier]

THE OTHERS DON'T

[spare pier]

BRO

[pliant ruin]

cnidrions name is so fucking stupid 😭 😭

[spare pier]

CATS HAVE TERRITORIES

[ruby heart]

I still personally find elementals a confusing inbetween of gods and auric dragons..

[spare pier]

THEY DON'T RULE OVER SHIT

[pliant ruin]

althogugh iwill say

it is

really funny

like

[ruby heart]

But if you think about it

[pliant ruin]

triangle did you see my analogy earlier

cnidrion being called that is like

[plucky juniper]

i feel like they do

[pliant ruin]

you have a new boss called the Primate and its a elephant

a new boss called Crocodilian and its like a wolf

[ruby heart]

They are problably the closest to a capital God in calamity? Or well atleast as embodiments of the world or universe

[spare pier]

JUST BECAUSE BRIMSTONE ELEMENTAL PISSED ALL OVER AZAFURE DOESN'T MEAN SHE RULES IT

[ruby heart]

But like the world soul and auric souls are also that?

[plucky juniper]

@pliant ruin IF I MAY.

[ruby heart]

How do elementals slot in this

[abstract hedge]

They don't rule entirely over entire parts, like Anahita can't just cause a giant worldwide tsunami. They take a long time to recover, but they're not mortal in the typical sense.

[plucky juniper]

It IS consistent with vanilla tho

Wyverns. Need I say more?

[ruby heart]

What differ anahita, the elemental of water for the fragment of the world soul that represent water

[pliant ruin]

new abyss boss crustacean

[ruby heart]

And was absorved by the auric dragon

[visual kiln]

same tbh

[pliant ruin]

im ngl i like to think they named that intentionally because they thought itd be funny

[visual kiln]

i liked a headcanon noob had where elementals were actually diff fragments of the world soul

[pliant ruin]

hey what if we named this dragon that very clearly is based of a eastern dragon a wyvern even though thats like a whole ass other type of entirely different dragon

[visual kiln]

n auric souls were just attuned to them

• the actual world soul

which would presumably be another elemental

[spare pier]

ELEMENTALS ARE WEIRD AS A GENERAL WORLDBUILDING CONCEPT BUT THEY ADD A LOT BY BEING OBJECTS OF WORSHIP THAT AREN'T DRAGONS NOR GODS

[plucky juniper]

yknow what? that tracks.

[spare pier]

THE VARIETY IS NEEDED EVEN IF THE REASONING IS KINDA BOTCHED

[plucky juniper]

i think you should work on that reasoning then yknow

[visual kiln]

the deus in question

[spare pier]

WHAT THE FUCK DO YOU THINK I'M DOING?

ALSO DEUS IS ONE THING

[pliant ruin]

Oh gee i wonder what the lore writers are doing

[spare pier]

AWESOME

THERE IS A SINGULAR OBJECT WORSHIP THAT ISN'T A GOD OR A DRAGON

[pliant ruin]

there's also sigma

[visual kiln]

why r u all caps

[plucky juniper]

dont say that! people are going to use that as ammunition for their Yo Mom jokes!

[pliant ruin]

there's that guy

[spare pier]

BECAUSE OK WHATEVER

[visual kiln]

valid lmao

[pliant ruin]

so there's liek

elementals

deus

sigma

[visual kiln]

oh thats why

[pliant ruin]

is there anyone else im missing

[spare pier]

YOU GOT 6

SILVA DOESN'T COUNT SINCE SHE'S A GODDESS

6 NON-GOD NON-DRAGON OBJECTS OF WORSHIP SOUNDS GOOD

[young socket]

golem

[pliant ruin]

is there a hidden faction of Giant Tortoise worshippers that i forgot about

[visual kiln]

how do elementals like work

functionally

[pliant ruin]

golem is god adjacent

i dont think it counts for this

[visual kiln]

what r they in relation to the world soul n stuff

[pliant ruin]

like its not an actual god but effectively

its still god worship

[spare pier]

IT'S A REASONABLE NUMBER WHEN YOU CONSIDER RELEVANT GODS AND DRAGONS

[fiery meadow]

Granite Elemental could’ve beaten Yharim I won’t elaborate

[spare pier]

COULD BE BUMPED UP

[visual kiln]

there were or maybe still are other things that r worshipped that arent gods or dragons tbh

that just dont appear

[pliant ruin]

i mea nyeah thats a given for everything

like

you dont see the entire world

you can headcanon many things

[visual kiln]

u could make a case that yharim could count as such

depending on how his faction currently views him

[plucky juniper]

the irony man

[visual kiln]

true

[pliant ruin]

there's a whole world out there for you to explore

not

not literally

i mean like creatively

[spare pier]

EVEN IF I HAD AN ANSWER I WOULDN'T SAY IT

[pliant ruin]

like you can creatively explore it with fan concepts and that sort of thing

thats what i mean.

not literally oyu dont get tooo explore it all literally

[spare pier]

HERE COMES ECUMENA WITH A STEEL CHAIR

[pliant ruin]

liktereally speaking its. its just the heartlands. ayep

[visual kiln]

dm it 🥺 ?

[spare pier]

BITCH

[visual kiln]

oh

[spare pier]

I JUST SAID I DON'T HAVE ONE

[visual kiln]

reading comprehension

[spare pier]

I HAVE CONCEPTS OF AN ANSWER

[pliant ruin]

ecumena is now canon to calamity hello i am reading comprehension

all of the roleplay is also canon by proxy

[spare pier]

FELICIA IS TOO

[pliant ruin]

sovereign army event tommorow

[spare pier]

REMEMBER THAT

[long bloom]

mark a bossfight

[pliant ruin]

ok wait

let's

let's not get too far into that territory

don't wanna. don't wanna start the tincident

The Incident

[visual kiln]

i am the incident

[pliant ruin]

it's just a one off mention, it's okay

[long bloom]

whar

[spare pier]

ANYWAYS

[pliant ruin]

as i was saying

kar add the giant tortoise worshipping factio to calamity thanks

they worship giant tortoises

[spare pier]

YOU MIGHT SEE ME AND TEREZI MORE OFTEN NOW

[pliant ruin]

for their uhhh. great strenght and uhh

shells

and tortoise-ness

[spare pier]

HAVE FUN WITH HER INCOMREPEHSNIBLE BULLSHIT

IT'S VERY COMPREHENSIBLE FOR ME BUT NOT FOR YOU BECAUSE YOU'RE LAME

[visual kiln]

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/World_Turtle

[long bloom]

readd sand tortoise

[pliant ruin]

they also fucking hate ice tortoises

[plucky juniper]

incorrect

[visual kiln]

incorrect

[pliant ruin]

they view them as false messiahs

so they fucking hate them

[dusk laurel]

oh my god YES

[plucky juniper]

after all, i created this

[pliant ruin]

cnidrion will be renamed to seahorsion

[spare pier]

OK

[plucky juniper]

i am used to complete nonsense yknow.

[pliant ruin]

thanks bestie

[visual kiln]

im REALLY gonna do it this time~!

[spare pier]

I'M ADDING THE TURTLE GUYS

ALONGSIDE THE NEW POST YHARIM BOSS

AURIC TURTLE

[long bloom]

🔥

[pliant ruin]

post yharim turtle 🔥

[dusk laurel]

catalyst post yharim squid

[abstract hedge]

Signathion...

[dusk laurel]

acid rain

[visual kiln]

post yharim squid

[plucky juniper]

yknow what? I'm giggling at that concept unironically

A species of burrowing turtle that protects itself by covering itself with Auric Ore, the ultimate in protection. Only the Auric Dragons would be capable of preying on such beasts, but well...

there bestiary description

[spare pier]

ANYWAYS IT'S 15 MINUTES UNTIL CHRISTMAS

I'M GOING TO GO DO ACTUAL THINGS NOW INSTEAD OF STAYING ON DISCORD

[pliant ruin]

have fun

im gonna go stay on discord because i have nothing else to do becasue im the grinch and hate christmas

[visual kiln]

i perish forever

[spare pier]

THAT'S FUCKED UP CHEESE

TEREZI IS GOING TO BEAT THE SHIT OUT OF YOU FOR THAT

[pliant ruin]

thats not treu actually i dont ac tually hate christmas its just that i literally dont have anything else to do it's midnight and i live alone who am i gonna celebrate christmas with. the ants on my wall

[visual kiln]

oh thats mean

[pliant ruin]

you know what

sure man

[spare pier]

I MEAN SHE WAS MEAN FIRST

[visual kiln]

terezi shouldnt do that

[pliant ruin]

i can celebrate christmas with the ants on my wall

[visual kiln]

im biased tho

[pliant ruin]

have a jolly festive night ants on my wall

[spare pier]

ANYWAYS YEAH I'M GONNA GO EAT LYCHEES

OR I GUESS TEREZI

I DON'T FUCKING KNOW BRO

HAVING 5 PEOPLE IN YOUR HEAD IS FUCKED

[real silo]

@ionic harness

[abstract hedge]

Okay Braelor

[plucky juniper]

Terezi after learning the human body she's in decides to consume one of her identities for dinner:

[pliant ruin]

braelor likes ants lives on to this day

[abstract hedge]

And Yharim likes bees.

[ruby heart]

Back

Was doing the christmas stuff

[visual kiln]

oh YAYYYYYY

also help

why is steam broken????

[abstract hedge]

It is?

Maybe that's why it was a bit of a struggle to make my account since I did that today.

[ruby heart]

Yea but personally as they are now

They fill a bit disconnected personally

I like their general concept but they kinda seem like dragons 2 but not dragons this time

[spare pier]

Yeah that's true

[real silo]

What happens if anahita gets the soul of flame

[night barn]

they're definitely very very similar which could either be a good or bad thing depending on how you look at it

[real silo]

Goddess of steam

[night barn]

dragons and elementals are like two sides of the same coin yknow

[real silo]

Makes games and gives fire services

[night barn]

wait facts !

[real silo]

And her name is

[night barn]

dragons are just conceptual things and elementals are physical things

both of the earth

[warm gull]

server down

[real silo]

Gabrielle Newell

[warm gull]

500 bajillion people buying shit

[visual kiln]

calamity mod for pmodloadre

[real silo]

Christmas server down vs silksong server down

[visual kiln]

theres a hytale calamity mod

i gained a custom role in their discord server within a day of being in it

simply by having too much aura

[real silo]

that's because you're goat

[visual kiln]

mhm mhm

YAYYYYYYYYYY

[dusk laurel]

azzy deserves it

[ruby heart]

Christimas real now

Marriah carrey jumpscare

The moment it was midnight.. scary

[ruby heart]

Dragons arent really conceptual

Main diference is elementals are the concept

Dragons are using the concept

[hybrid barn]

Gasp
The Devourer of Presents is real...

[ruby heart]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1042954878974181457/1452143298700644476/G8j5vK-WgAARcfO-ezgif.com-video-to-gif-converter.gif

[night barn]

so there could in theory be a sacrifice elemental?

or something of the sort

most elementals that we know of are the physical things that actually exist in the world

the biggest stretch is life elemental but i still think life exists beyond concept

it's a physical thing

[dusk laurel]

nature elemental

not the life elemental

[night barn]

same thing

that's even more dragon = concept elemental = physical because i just said life is the biggest stretch

hdflr

[dusk laurel]

the elementals are manifestations of the elements, which are all essential for life, which also means silva cannot exist if one of the other 4 do not exist

[light linden]

I always thought of like

[night barn]

the "elements" is still vague

[dusk laurel]

fire (heat), earth, water, air

[spare pier]

The Elementals do infact refer to those four

[light linden]

dragons are the wizards of calamity and elementals are the sorcerers

[night barn]

like it's avatar

alright

[light linden]

where it isn't innate for dragons

[dusk laurel]

no its just what traditional elements are 😭

[night barn]

again these all are physical things

[ruby heart]

But there is the dragon of flame

Elementals are just the weird inbetween rn..

[light linden]

hi triangle

[night barn]

i suppose so but then i find it weird that both the dragons and elementals have a thing for flame

what the difference y'know

[light linden]

for elementals it's innate

for the auric dragon of flame it isn't

[night barn]

idk what this means

the auric dragon of flame isn't innately related to flame ?

[dusk laurel]

the fire (heat)m elemental is just the manifestation of well heat really

[light linden]

no like

[long bloom]

no

[night barn]

or more accurately the auric soul of flame

[light linden]

the fire elemental was BORN with a connection to fire

[dusk laurel]

the auric dragon's powers are from their auric soul's domain which is from when they absorbed part of the world soul

[long bloom]

it was a regular dragon that absorbed the shard of the world soul that had the flame domain

[night barn]

the auric soul of flame is innately related to flame though

[light linden]

the auric dragon of flame wasn't

[long bloom]

still no

read above message

[night barn]

?

above message read

still not understanding

[light linden]

ok lemme put it this way

[night barn]

the auric soul of flame sounds flamey to me

[light linden]

nobody is saying it isn't

[night barn]

a flame elemental sounds like a fancy flame dragon

[long bloom]

it's the auric soul that lets you control flame

you are not flame

the soul is not flame

[night barn]

so it is conceptual then

[light linden]

just the DRAGON of fire was not born with the ability to control fire

[ruby heart]

Yea

That is my issue

Elementals are kinda just? There

[light linden]

the ELEMENTAL was

[night barn]

yeah i think it would make sense for the elementals and the dragons to be two sides of the earth

the dragons / auric souls stuff are conceptual pieces and the elementals are physical pieces

soul generally does refer to all the stuff in a person that isn't physical, that's why there's a fancy name for it and it's not just an organ

so it would make sense that the world soul splits up into conceptual domains

whereas yes the elementals literally are flame

like physical flame

because they're the physical pieces

[long bloom]

good explanation i think

[night barn]

so this is fine

in my mind

[ruby heart]

Brimstone also embodies

[night barn]

but idk if that's how it actually is right now

[ruby heart]

A bit of afterlife

And souls

[night barn]

🥹

[ruby heart]

But that is also a general crags thing

[long bloom]

and brimmy is heat in general

right?

[night barn]

this stuff just isn't communicated unfortunately

that's why elementals seem weird

[dusk laurel]

brimmy is the main manifestation of the heat elemental

[long bloom]

curse of incomplete mod

[night barn]

cause ingame there's none of this physical vs conceptual shenans

[dusk laurel]

yeah the mod isnt done like at all its been 2 years since the last large update

[night barn]

unfortunate but true

can't fault it for not being done

how many people have said the calamity economy would thrive as a standalone game

[dusk laurel]

gulp...

[long bloom]

me

[dusk laurel]

@pliant ruin

[light linden]

....about that

[quartz pier]

wait question because im used to old lore.

does- yharim no longer, hatch Yharon anymore>?

[plucky juniper]

no he still hatches

because they toss him and the egg into lava

[long bloom]

they both get thrown in lava, which hatches yharon

[quartz pier]

OH boffth

[long bloom]

same as before

[quartz pier]

oki

srry- my lore knowledge is either

[plucky juniper]

also, imma be real that part where they toss the egg is kinda stupid but im not willing to get into that argument again

[long bloom]

like literally the only thing that didn't change lol

[quartz pier]

"pre-edgy lore"
and
"modern lore"

[dusk laurel]

yharon gets hatched accidentally by a cult of gods and god worshippers who throw yharim and yharon's egg into lava as punishment for yharim refusing to use yharon to ascend into a god

[quartz pier]

and i cant really tell the difference between the two.

[pulsar ocean]

is silva’s immortality better than yharon’s if she doesn’t take 10 years to revive

[quartz pier]

i know clam lore- i just dont know which era of clam lore it goes to

[hybrid barn]

Kind of a weird question but one prompted from a short talk in the update channel! If Calamitas had a choice between living in a cave or living in a cozier house but with Draedon as her roommate, what do you think she'd pick?

[long bloom]

it's automatically better because you can permanently kill yharon by absorbing his soul
you can only permanently kill silva by completely eradicating all traces of life on terraria

[long bloom]

cave

she also hates draedon

according to the q&a

[hybrid barn]

Naturally, I just wonder if she'd be the type to move out if Draedon was able to stick around in your town, or if she'd just try to play along for the time being

[long bloom]

idk

[quartz pier]

all clamity lore can be organizedi nto 3 things

Yharim got bored
Calamitas fucked up
Draedon found something new

[dusk laurel]

uhhh

not exactly

[pliant ruin]

who tagged me

[pliant ruin]

nervous gulp

[visual kiln]

roy should absorb caldev into itself imo

[dusk laurel]

yharim did 100 years of war due mainly to being nearly executed by some of the gods by not killing yharon and ascending with his soul, then yharon unintentionally hatches and saves yharim from the lava, explaining to him his biased point of view on the history of his people the auric dragons who were eventually hunted to near extinction after they got decimated by the moon lord, and yharim was convinced to try and kill every god because he believes them all to be evil for taking a dragon's soul

[hybrid barn]

And convert into Reign of Ozzatron

[pliant ruin]

theres a ozzatron emoji in roydev

[hybrid barn]

The seeds have been planted already

[noble falcon]

Those jungle guys getting Plantera's creation set up (it will surely end well)

[agile matrix]

what (presumably) would draedon do with the info gained from the exo mech fight

would he make a terrarian mech or would he just make his current mecha better

[noble falcon]

simple
exo mechs 2: now with even more ass-kicking processing power

[agile matrix]

thatd be cool

[noble falcon]

i doubt everything he makes nowadays is meant for combat scenarios
maybe he does just take it easy for a while

as long as he keeps doing cool science stuff i can imagine its accurate

maybe he uses the incredible new data to make the first exo hover-couch!

[agile matrix]

double decker exocouch

so that way everyone can study and do stuff with a buddy

WAIT WHERES THAT ONE IMAGE

OF THE GUY ON A COUCH

WITH A REMOTE AND HES EATING A PIZZA

THATS DRAEDON AFTER EXO MECHS

[noble falcon]

thats him watching the fight through the drone he sends down when you contact him

when you kill them all he spits out his beer like cereal guy

[violet sparrow]

santa isnt real

oh jesus the chat just jumped

[noble falcon]

we found yharim fellas
only a scrooge of his caliber would say such a thing

[visual kiln]

i rlly like the idea of dragons stealing the world from elementals

like how gods stole the world from dragons

its so cool

the cylce.......

[long bloom]

yharim stole the world from gods

[agile matrix]

if ita cyclical who stole the world from gods

[long bloom]

snail

[agile matrix]

yharim didnt take shit back

he just killed it

[visual kiln]

#calamity-update-talk message

[long bloom]

then what was permafrost for

[visual kiln]

after the age of gods is the age of man

💅

its like lord of the rings

[agile matrix]

whats after man

[visual kiln]

octopuses

[long bloom]

[split mortar]

Me

[visual kiln]

after the age of man is the age of darkness

[dusk laurel]

dark soul

[visual kiln]

once all the god essence stuff sinks into the world and merges with the world soul

it becomes much darker

darker than dark

u could say

[agile matrix]

dude no way earthbound

[visual kiln]

one day the broken world soul will roar again

thats rigth!!!!!!!!

deltarune is a sequel to terraria calamity mod!!!!!

mwehehehehe

[noble falcon]

A terrible calamari would occur…

[craggy sparrow]

gaster is actually xeroc

https://tenor.com/view/gaster-rap-wd-gaster-wingblings-wd-gaster-rap-gaster-rapping-gif-26169076

[robust osprey]

wrong gaster is noxus

[craggy sparrow]

that would make xeroc tobias fox

[visual kiln]

@ruby heart who is gaster

[craggy sparrow]

does that mean i scale above yharim

[robust osprey]

why would you

[craggy sparrow]

I mean

i could kill the devs

his creators

and pull the mod out of tmod

[robust osprey]

ozzatron hits you with the kill beam and you die

[split mortar]

You are not beating ozzatron in a fist fight

[visual kiln]

i dont think u could do any of this

[craggy sparrow]

im a ranger build

[split mortar]

Does not matter

[visual kiln]

im p sure like a decent % of caldev scales above u irl

[dusk laurel]

ozzatron would atomize you in seconds

[split mortar]

Yeah

[dusk laurel]

and thats generous

[craggy sparrow]

does that make the terraria devs scale above calamity devs

[dusk laurel]

relogic owns all air on earth iirc

[craggy sparrow]

jeb inspired red

so that would make jeb the top of the scaling

[robust osprey]

ozzatron is actually redigit's alt account

[craggy sparrow]

real

[split mortar]

Ozzatron scales above switzerland irl

[craggy sparrow]

finnland solos

[noble falcon]

Breaking news
Draedon gets drunk, sends exo mechs 2.0 to fight Belgium. The whole country

[visual kiln]

I solo

[craggy sparrow]

Xeroc irl debate stand

[split mortar]

Ur like
French

[dusk laurel]

wtf

[visual kiln]

Nopw

[dusk laurel]

melon gun this is defamation

[craggy sparrow]

counting or not counting god violence

[split mortar]

Xeroc got beat up by an old woman while trying to rob a bank irl

[visual kiln]

@split mortar i think u hate me snd want me to kill myself

im telling chee on u