lore-discussion

[abstract hedge]

Resurrection by itself wouldn't rely on Yharon, it just happens to be that they're the only being capable of it that we know of. Also they're the only dragon with that ability, like only Vetrasyl could use storm abilities for example.

At least that's how I understand it.

[languid badge]

Is that what auric ore is implied to be?
If so why only appear after yharon (incoming because game mechanics in 3)

[hybrid barn]

I'm not sure, but it could be because he was already shaving away at his soul while fighting you (hence yharon soul fragments)

[dusk laurel]

auric ore is just evil dragon metal that appears after an auric dragon dies theres not much info around it

[hybrid barn]

Which is what allowed parts of it to be absorbed into the earth

[languid badge]

I mean that would certainly line up with the new recipe (ignore the part where if we took that literally the recipe should be the other way around)

[long bloom]

the soul shaves when it teleports iirc

[languid badge]

That sounds like something that only exists via word of dev

But it would make sense

Or well

No

[long bloom]

over half the lore is word of dev

[languid badge]

If it is I certainly think it’s a strange choice
If you wanted an attack to represent yharons soul shaving the bullet hells are right there

[wanton pendant]

The other half is stuff from the Ninjago lore I've been writing into the lore docs and nobody has noticed yet.

[long bloom]

can i help

i know lore that doesnt even exist

[wanton pendant]

What the hell, sure, reveal Xeroc's middle name.

[long bloom]

montgomery

[feral skiff]

John 'First God' Xeroc

[languid badge]

That said I also think yharons soul fragmenting has its own slew of questions related to it

[wanton pendant]

Don't be such a baby, soul fragments grow back.
Probably.
Eh, it'll be fine.

[eager bluff]

(no they dont)

[hybrid barn]

Good point actually
Like is it his whole soul, or is it specifically just the bits of the world soul that attached to it?

[wanton pendant]

Well it's fragments.

If it were the whole soul, then why ain't it in the Aerie?

[hybrid barn]

By his whole soul, I meant is it taking pieces from his original soul too?

[wanton pendant]

That's what the Auric Soul is.

[abstract hedge]

I wish we could convince Yharon to abandon Yharim just cause it'd be funny to see him get springlocked, even if it makes no lore sense.

[wanton pendant]

The result of a dragon absorbing a shard of the world soul.

[pulsar ocean]

I thought we just didn’t notice it this whole time

[languid badge]

Not to mention
Yharim seems to think yharon is still capable of being reborn despite the fragment problem, would his soul simply reform? Would the resulting rebirth be impure in some way?

[wanton pendant]

You didn't notice that you didn't not notice it.

[wanton pendant]

His soul just does that.

[pulsar ocean]

He just shaves off soul pieces he regenerates while hibernating
It takes infinite soul fragments to form an auric soul

[languid badge]

The funniest possible outcome to this is that each fragment of yharons soul is each independently capable of rebirth
New age of dragons featuring 40 different yharons

[hybrid barn]

Also yeah, this begs the question of what shaving pieces of your soul away even does to you-
I imagine it'd eventually just kill him (after however many deaths), but what if he was left with half a soul?

[wanton pendant]

Yharon can't be killed by killing him.

[hybrid barn]

But he only can't be killed by being killed by nature of his soul, presumably

[wanton pendant]

Yeah he has the power of not being killed when he's killed.

[hybrid barn]

If he didn't have a soul, what would there be left to reincarnate?

[eager bluff]

after enough deaths sure hed be damn close but, to use an analogy ive used before, it would be like trying to destroy a mountain by using sandpaper

[hybrid barn]

That...makes sense, but it still insinuates that the amount of his soul that'd be left to give would become smaller and smaller over time

[wanton pendant]

Well he'd have no soul, so he couldn't, since has no soul that makes you not die.

[hybrid barn]

Would that have an effect on him?

[pulsar ocean]

It never reaches 0

[eager bluff]

he would get progressively weaker

like imagine it as though his soul (and i guess strength too) gets multiplied by .999 each time

[hybrid barn]

I guess you're right, but the point was moreso to ask what'd happen to him when he only has a fraction of his original soul left

[languid badge]

it’s like stocks

[hybrid barn]

Like souls aren't just described to contain your strength and powers, but also your knowledge and identity

[wanton pendant]

Well, by that point, he's got bigger issues.

[hybrid barn]

Would he eventually just become...not Yharon anymore? A zombie?

[pulsar ocean]

If you stabbed yharon in the eg in the aerie would a new one spawn in instantly

[hybrid barn]

Ooh, an endless omelet trick

[pulsar ocean]

World hunger solved

[noble falcon]

Gonna make me a kickass Auric Quiche with this blessed phoenix egg

[eager bluff]

for an example, after he dies a hundred times he still has 90% of his soul still intact and after dying a thousand times he still has 36% of his soul left
and this is probably using a rate way higher than what actually happens

[languid badge]

It makes sense except for the part where it probably breaks the laws of thermodynamics but who cares about those anyway

[eager bluff]

those dont matter we have them broken elsewhere

[languid badge]

True

[eager bluff]

no he just gets weaker and weaker as he continues dying

[hybrid barn]

Also to clarify, this is why I was wondering if it was pieces of his soul as a unit or pieces of the world soul shard that fused into it! Because presumably if it was just pieces of the world soul shard, he would just get weaker until he became a normal dragon, but with it being his entire soul-

Yeah, he'd essentially just lose his identity and cognizance as he weakens, which is a bit of a horrifying thought

[long bloom]

the shards dont exist anymore

an auric soul is one thing

[eager bluff]

and also identity and cognizance isnt tied to the soul

draedon we're fairly certain doesnt have one and he very much has an identity and cognizance

[hybrid barn]

Are they not? When a god absorbs a soul, I'm pretty sure it also absorbs part of the mind of its respective dragon, it's just that the one who absorbs it is typically the dominant one

Which is part of why absorbing multiple is a horrible idea and almost no one did it

[long bloom]

that's never been said anywhere??

[hybrid barn]

Hasn't it?

[wanton pendant]

Don't believe so.

[hybrid barn]

...well damn, either I'm just crazy or I might've leaked something
Patreon lore chats and regular lore chats kind of bleed together in my memory

[eager bluff]

no that was just a really early theory for why absorbing multiple souls wasnt a good idea

[hybrid barn]

Ahhh I see

[split mortar]

I WOULD NOT EAT NOXUS

[long bloom]

[wanton pendant]

Who are you and what have you done with Melonius Gunther?

[split mortar]

Someone can make a turret and place it on a door
One of humanities things irl is making shit stronger then we are given time and resources

[split mortar]

Noxus is a living thing not an inedible pencil

[wanton pendant]

Never stopped the REAL Melonsworth Guntholomew.

[pliant ruin]

Absorbing multiple souls is a bad idea due to soun instability

An auric soul by itself is already 2 souls in one

(Dragon's original soul + World soul fragmnent)

a god, as you might ugess, is 3 (Auric, which is already 2, + Mortal's Soul)

a god absorbing another auric soul? bump that up to 5 baybe

And yeah you can see how one's physical form could quicly grow to uh

Not handle That very well

Maybe 2 auric souls is sitll not That bad. maybe oyu can still Very Mildly Function with that many but you'd still be like ouhghghghg ougg

[dusk laurel]

awesome desciption of how an unstable soul would feel

[long bloom]

it's peak

[split mortar]

True

[noble falcon]

If absorbing multiple souls is a problem, the solution is to tie them to ropes and carry them around with you to siphon their power like a Minecraft beacon

[feral skiff]

bad idea

[split mortar]

You get jumped by yharon

[pulsar ocean]

Just be flowey undertale and absorb multiple souls

[icy veldt]

Just keep your collected souls in the fridge and snack on bits of them from time to time

[noble falcon]

And I whack him upside the head with my bundle of auric souls
You know that’ll hurt

[split mortar]

Wont be auric souls when yharon gets there

[hybrid barn]

Oh yeah, rebirth

[agile matrix]

theoretically how would one not immediately goopify

[wanton pendant]

Do not ascend with multiple souls.

Past that, uh, get an emulsifier?

[agile matrix]

yea but like i wanna have a lot of souls

i wanna be like hit video game undertale

[wanton pendant]

But then you risk hardening your heart, and then you will have a very dark soul indeed.

[agile matrix]

hmmm.

a dark soul......

[dusk laurel]

a what.

[thick slate]

would you say

you have nine sols

[noble falcon]

I have a plan for that
Favorite his auric soul in my inventory, protecting it from being manipulated

Keep the essence of a mighty dragon right next to my cosmolight and old cassette

[dusk laurel]

gameplay moment

[wanton pendant]

Why don't YOU (Terrarian is you) put Yharon's soul in the piggy bank.

[noble falcon]

Perfect
Then I can tap into his power whenever through the quick buff keybind

Man, this “keeping godlike beings down” business is wicked easy
How did Yharim go to war over stuff like that, did he never carry cash and didn’t get the merchant to show up

New lore theory
Broke Yharim

[sinful adder]

Stupid idea

Fill the dragon aerie with conveyor belts that go to a meat grinder to farm yharon soul fragments

Reassemble all the soul fragments into a soul in a million years once yharon is permanently dead via this

But like also do experiments to figure out how to get the mortal dragon soul parts out

On the fragments

[noble falcon]

That’ll never work
The meat grinder is just a crafting station, we need the ever iconic slopes leading into a thin lava pool

Yharon got dunked in lava once, we can do it again

[long bloom]

as stip said earlier, his soul will never disappear completely

[pliant ruin]

the way ive seen soul shards has always been like

if u bruise ur arm against something little bits of skin or flesh come out

bleeds out a lil

but i mean itll regnerrate eventually so

[long bloom]

i think i remember he said it also didn't regenerate but i might be hallucinating

[sinful adder]

Alright then, how many soul fragments do you need to cram together to make a full soul

If it doesn't get depleted, then you can eventually get two yharon souls

[hybrid barn]

Granted, that also assumes they don't degrade in quality over time

Something I believe we're able to know is possible because of Aerialite

[noble falcon]

So does Yharon undergo like radioactive decay or smth

Like if he just sits around eventually he’s half as much soulful as before

[sinful adder]

Id be surprised if the amount of auric-ness isn't conserved. At the very least it should spread out into the world when decaying

[hybrid barn]

Yharon himself would probably be fine, but I don't think the shavings you get from his soul would be after like...a hundred years tops

[sinful adder]

So that it technically still exists

[hybrid barn]

I'm thinking about it kind of like blood, it can stay decently healthy if it stays circulating throughout your body, but once it leaves, it's pretty quick to oxidize and decay

[sinful adder]

If this decay happens regardless of how concentrated it is, then it running out is inevitable eventually

[noble falcon]

1st rule of Yharondynamics
Yharon cannot be created nor destroyed, only transferred

[sinful adder]

Although, I have a theory to explain all this

Auric substance is primordial and cannot be created or destroyed. Regular souls are continuously created inside living beings. An auric soul is just a regular soul that contains a piece of auric substance, and so it is continuously being attuned to that substance.

An attuned soul or a soul fragments is a regular soul that inherits auric properties from a full auric soul's auric substance, but without the source to replenish the attunement, it will wear off

[hybrid barn]

Y'know, that makes a weird amount of sense

[sinful adder]

This model explains all known properties of auric and souls

If I remember them correctly

[noble falcon]

What’s with the property that makes it fling you across the room if you touch it

[hybrid barn]

I think it's set to reject anything that's "unworthy", which is basically just anything without auric essence

[long bloom]

yeah

[hybrid barn]

Begs the question though, does auric ore reject Slime God?

[long bloom]

i never considered if it rejects gods or not

[abstract hedge]

Depends on if the auric soul within gods counts or if it being fused with a (usually) human soul dilutes it too much.

[pliant ruin]

Assuming the bits of skin and lfesh and theory interpretation is correct then it could be, well

muche like the analogy

You can't really do that

If yu get a ubnch of bits of flesh and skin of an arm

you still cnat make a full arm

That is literally just my interpretation for it

though

and theres noactual solid basis

But you still don't have all the fundamental pieces that make up an Arm

the bones, the muscle, the nerves

but you dohave little bits of its flesh

[sinful adder]

Ok but what about my other Theory

[pliant ruin]

obviously souls dont have bone, muscles or nerves

but just like

the analogy yk

[long bloom]

maybe yours doesn't

[pliant ruin]

That could make sense

[noble falcon]

What do you guys think Yharim does all day up in the aerie, other than dropping lore tidbits when you kill something
Like, he presumably doesn’t have anyone else there to hang out with. I doubt anyone there would WANT to, so is he just like hanging out on an auric tesla bean bag or something until we show up

[pliant ruin]

The woorld sould shard at the core of the otherwise mundane dragon soul making it into an auric soul by itself

[long bloom]

plays checkers with yharon

[pliant ruin]

Yharon's probably hanging out there for a while

Until his fight, that is

[noble falcon]

Can’t be, Yharim says he dipped from his side

[pliant ruin]

He's likely training

Nah

Yharim only dips during his fight

Yharon*

[long bloom]

misinterpretation

[pliant ruin]

dumbass names

anyways

Yharon is Yharim's one best friend and the only one who hasn't actually left him

[long bloom]

yharon "left him" after the fight because he'll die of old age before the revival

[pliant ruin]

When Yharim says he "bade him farewell"

its because

well

You fucking kiled him 😭

[noble falcon]

Don’t worry, he’ll get better

[pliant ruin]

He will, but Yharim is aware he'll die before then

He won't be able to live to see Yharon return

[long bloom]

dude's like 130

[pliant ruin]

That's where the line comes from

The entire reason Yharon fights you is to protect Yharim

It wouldn't make much sense for someone who has long since abandoned Yharim to do that

They flew to the Aerie together and now are just. hanging out there. ig uess

[noble falcon]

Well I certainly feel foolish now
So maybe the two were getting up to some deific shenanigans in dragon heaven or whatever the aerie is

[pliant ruin]

Likely alot of training

[long bloom]

and checkers

[pliant ruin]

In a fleeting hope they can become strong enough to accomplish their goal

Your ( ) presence does throw things off a little though

[noble falcon]

Yharim prank-calling Draedon
“Is your refrigerator running?”
“Yes. Very quickly. Towards your location.”

[pliant ruin]

Because Yharim realizes "well, even if i DO die, this guy is pretty strong. maybe THEY can do it for me"

and thus Yharim trying to make oyu into his succcessor ensues

[long bloom]

draedon has no fuckin clue where the aerie is

[noble falcon]

He’s a smart guy, he’ll figure it out

[pliant ruin]

It's worth noting that the Whispers ("lore items") are being reworked in the future

[long bloom]

he's scanned the entire surface of the planet several times and found nothing

[pliant ruin]

While the general content of then is likely going to remain the same at its core (with a few additions and edits)

Instead of yharim just Brin Blasting you for seemingly No ReASON

You'll be able to find an old communication device

Which Yharim will use to tell you things

[long bloom]

it's like the aerie doesn't even exist

[noble falcon]

Wait, easy solution
Bring the codebreaker with you there and just ring him up

[long bloom]

true

[pliant ruin]

At first, it'll just be him observing you out of passion curiosity

Like

Yeah, dude has nobody besides Yharon, has been training all day

It can be a nice way of distracting himself a bit

Seeing what's going on in the surface

But as he notices

"Wait this guy is cracked, actually"

It'll slowly go from that to

actively trying to manipulate you

[noble falcon]

This guy is no-hitting my pet, this could be big

[pliant ruin]

Seeing that he could make you into the next him

[long bloom]

friend*

yharon is sapient

[noble falcon]

You know what I meant

[dusk laurel]

people still calling yharon a pet

[noble falcon]

I didn’t mean it like that, it was for the dumb bit

I know he’s basically a person

[pliant ruin]

Idrm where i said it

mightve been here

But i have a theory for how one cna acccess the aerie

ANd iti s

quite comically simple actually

Be an auric dragon, or be attuned

[hybrid barn]

Rocket ship

[pliant ruin]

Yharon - Duh
Yharim - Duh
Terrarian - Mock Attunement

And then that brings in question

God of War

who we know actually killed Yharon and stole his egg

But i have a few explanations for this, possible ones atleast

First explanation that is the most boring one

[long bloom]

but like
the only reason he wants a successor is for them to finish the crusade
so he must think you have a reasonable chance of killing xeroc
which is obviously false

[pliant ruin]

He was attuned to a dragon

THe most fun and i feel in character one^?

GoW killed a dragon, mock attuned with his soul shards and then used that to go to the aerie to kill MORE dragons

why?

i mean what do you think bro wanted to fucking kill dragons he was bored

hes literally the god of war he wants to kill shit

[noble falcon]

These dragons just cannot catch a break bruh

[pliant ruin]

And i think killing a dragon, mock attuning with his soul only to then go to the aerie and kill MORE dragons

is like

[abstract hedge]

Also all the other remaining gods like Providence, SG, maybe Tyrian.

[pliant ruin]

the exact type of insidious brutality i'd expect from GoW

[abstract hedge]

Well they're all dead so they're on eternal break now.

[long bloom]

well yeah that's slightly realistic

[pliant ruin]

It would also be

a fun way

[long bloom]

xeroc is not

[pliant ruin]

of incorporating mock-attunement as a concept that you didn't invent in the lore

atleast one (1) person has figured out how to do it before

[noble falcon]

I mean, if we’re being technical, yharon’s kid is doing just fine with the donor item

[pliant ruin]

And also it'd make sense too like. Assuming GoW was laready GoW back then

ANd he killed ANOTHER dragon

absorbing its soul woud be uh

bad.

[long bloom]

donor content is strictly non canon

[pliant ruin]

so what better thing to do with it

[abstract hedge]

It's a much more feasible goal than killing Xeroc, Yharim probably knows nobody is gonna be able to kill Xeroc but he wants someone to at least get rid of the remaining gods who actually affedt the world.

[abstract hedge]

Not canon

[noble falcon]

Dang

[pliant ruin]

yharon having a kid would have insanely huge lore implications

[abstract hedge]

Yharon is the only dragon

[long bloom]

i actually made a list of non canon things the other day

[pliant ruin]

so yeah just like all other donor items its not canon

[abstract hedge]

*auric dragon, there's plenty of non aurics.

[noble falcon]

Like Betsy

[long bloom]

bwuh

[abstract hedge]

Not canon

[long bloom]

also not canon

crossover content

[noble falcon]

Oh come on

[abstract hedge]

Betsy is from a crossover so it's like deeerclops in not being canon.

[long bloom]

but actual non-auric dragons include primordial wyrm, old duke, elder basilisk, uhh

[noble falcon]

What do you MEAN Mr stabby isn’t canon

[abstract hedge]

Pigrons

Uh regular Duke fishron and regular wyrms

Wyverns I think?

[long bloom]

it was never explicitly stated as non canon but the only explanation would be permafrost getting high off his ass and making a snowman mafia

[abstract hedge]

There's a bunch.

[hybrid barn]

I think Pigrons are in a similar boat to regular Basilisks, in that they're so far removed from the dragons of old that they're kind of just common animals

[long bloom]

which is obviously hilarious but not very realistic

[abstract hedge]

Aren't all non aurics just regular animals at the end of the day?

[hybrid barn]

I'm...not sure actually

[noble falcon]

Calamitas training mishap

[long bloom]

you gonna call old duke ordinary?

to his face?

[noble falcon]

His rapidly approaching face

[abstract hedge]

Yes

Old duke sucks I hate him.

[long bloom]

[abstract hedge]

Both in game and in lore

[hybrid barn]

I believe I've heard that non-auric dragons are still mighty in their own rights, they just don't have domains and shit, but I can't be sure of that

[abstract hedge]

He's just older duke fishron

[pliant ruin]

Where's my thing

Also no old duke's lore isn't just older duke fishron

He has alot of planned lore for his rework and its cool as fuck

[long bloom]

[pliant ruin]

Unfortunately ingame rn it is just Old Duke Fishron though

[abstract hedge]

Potential boss

[long bloom]

every calamity boss:

[pliant ruin]

He's not even gonna be a fishron anymore

[abstract hedge]

Yeah pretty much

[pliant ruin]

ANyways this

[hybrid barn]

But anyways, a good counterargument is Primordial Wyrm, which is one of the main examples of an old ass non-auric dragon that's also leagues above any common creature

[pliant ruin]

Not canonical lore

[long bloom]

current calamity really is just the potential mod huh

[noble falcon]

So, question, I’m using the Ace’s High to beat scal on my current playthrough, so since it’s not a canon item, how does she lose

[pliant ruin]

But an idea i had

[pliant ruin]

It's a videogame

thats how

[noble falcon]

Welp

[long bloom]

you can still have it in your story
it's just not taken into account in the overall narrative and doesn't have any unreasonable implications

like akato

[pliant ruin]

While it's not cnaonical lore it is generally an idea i had that follows the standards set by how Dragons work and cei said its ore or less how she thought of it so

[hybrid barn]

Also yeah, probably in the same way how if there was a fully canonized route for the game, it probably wouldn't include killing her with a copper shortsword

[long bloom]

but remember

THE TERRARIAN IS YOU!!!!!!

[pliant ruin]

the only actual canon classifications are

auric dragons

and non-auric dragons

Old DUke, Primordial Wyrm, Eidolon Wyrms, Basilisks, Wyverns, Pigrons, etc

are all non-auric dragons

however

I felt like it was weird to

[hybrid barn]

Aren't draconic offshoots different from non-auric dragons?

[long bloom]

ehhhhh

blurry line

[pliant ruin]

classify something like Pigrons and Old Duke together

[pliant ruin]

Not really and that's why i t's confusing

[hybrid barn]

Pbth

[pliant ruin]

Primordial Wyrm and Pigrons are

both

by all meansw

non-auric dragosn

But are you really telling me you'd put those two in the same category

[hybrid barn]

means

[long bloom]

well technically jared was blessed by a god

[pliant ruin]

One is an ancient individual that is seemingly fully sapient wiht incredibly powerful magic that is extremely close to his auric progenitors

The otherones are like

just a entire species of (fairly) mundane dragons

So

[long bloom]

feral hog with wings

[pliant ruin]

This si why i thought of this

[long bloom]

this would be quite horrible irl

[pliant ruin]

Old Duke and Primwyrm are "Pure" dragons. Hardly different from their auric counterparts beyond the titular lack of an Auric Soul. Sapient, ancient and quite powerful

Now something like normal Fishrons or Basilisks would just be "Wild" dragons

Technically still parts of the Draconic lineage y es

But so many generations have passed since their ancestors were auric that they're basically just mundane species of animal now

[hybrid barn]

Makes me wonder where in the line Elder Basilisk will be

How elder is this basilisk?

[pliant ruin]

And as said, this wouldn't be a hard separation

More of a pipeline

[eager bluff]

it would be like the disctinction between nobles in royalty

like

[pliant ruin]

Old Duke and Primwyrm likely are at the very top of "Pure" dragon

Something like Elder Basilisk would probably be treading the line

Not quite a wild dragon but not quite a pure dragon either

[long bloom]

we know literally nothing

just the name

[pliant ruin]

We know alittle bit

From what was talked abt in cal sp - update talk

[long bloom]

spupdate

[pliant ruin]

It is probably not nearly as smart as old duke or primwyrm

Not like

fully sapient

but also not fully animalistic

Think of it as like

a caveman kinda

[hybrid barn]

So about in the middle

[pliant ruin]

Smart but not completely civilized smart

[eager bluff]

you have the kings and direct guys up top, those are very clearly defined
but then as the relationship gets more tangential you move into more just upper class
and then at the most tangential its just a bunch of regular guys that just so happen to be the former kings cousin twice removed's daughters nephew's great great great something great grandsons third cousins relatives

[pliant ruin]

Average dragonfollies would be wild dragons but perhaps on the higher echelon of wild dragons (purely speculative tbh) just because i like to think theyre sorta like

monkeys or dolphins

like pretty smart for animal standards

but still animals

with maybe some minor tool use

but again

purely speculative

[hybrid barn]

Like the dogs of offshoots

[pliant ruin]

wyverns r funny since iirc they are descendend from vetrasyl and also sapient to some degree?

id ask stip but its 2 am for him rn so hes probably asleep

(it is also 2 am for me but im evil)

[hybrid barn]

I guess that's not too surprising? As far as we know, Vetrasyl is the only dragon that's left their essences behind in the form of ore in the modern age, so it's possible that in the grand scheme of things, they might not've died too long ago

Then again, I'm not too caught up with the Vetrasyl lore, so I might be fully wrong

[warm gull]

the final reward for beating calamity mod is Xeroc's Blessing which grants minor improvements to all stats permanently (does not stack with food buffs)

[pliant ruin]

Vetra is the source of Otonilou and Illmeris seems to have been kicking for a pretty long while

Though

How lng that is in the grand scale of present time vs the very first dragon absorption is a long story

so could theoretically still be true

[hybrid barn]

Ah yeah, that's a good point!

[visual kiln]

meow

do we know what happened to the world soul

[hybrid barn]

We don't, sadly

[eager bluff]

it broke and then the dragons ate it

[noble falcon]

Actually I ate it
My bad

[pliant ruin]

Not yet beyond just it being shattered and the dragon's auric souls coming from its fragments

When they ran out of frragments, no more auric souls

And that's how you get old racist grandpa duke

[noble falcon]

Why is he racist
What did this duke do

Like I get the dashing is hard to deal with but that’s a whole buncha steps up

[long bloom]

he's racist in the lore

he was born riiight after the last of the world soul shards was taken

so he was just barely cucked out of being an auric dragon

this made him racist against auric dragons and hate everything in general

[noble falcon]

Well now we REALLY gotta kill him

[long bloom]

he's also a slave owner

[agile matrix]

does the world soul shard being in a soul designate it auric

[split mortar]

🤷 thats what most people think the case is afaik
But
All our knowledge of the world soul is just from the single yharon bestiary entry iirc

[agile matrix]

magical

making a fake world soul, shattering it, then making a buncha fake souls to make fauxric souls

[crimson junco]

Is this some kind of Elden Ring

[sinful adder]

Based on our understanding of each of the things involved, this is seemingly the only sensible explanation

[pliant ruin]

its like a pokemon evolution

or more like maht

its more like math actually

soul (assumedly of a dragon) + world soul shard = auric soul

auric soul + mortal soul = divine soul

theoretically i think a person could have an auric soul if they just absorbed a world soul shard by itself i guess

rather tha nlike

having to go through the middleman of a dragons soul

thats funny ot think aobut

sounds like a shitty superhero thats got boring powers like flying and being superstrong and was an obvious attempt of cashing in on superman from the 80s but nobody cared about him so he wasnt ever made popular

auric man

[icy veldt]

Based

[icy veldt]

I think it was said earlier that if a god had a child with a regular mortal person, that child wouldn't be half-god, since the godly part of a godly soul isn't genetic or biological. Since Auric souls also come from fusing a shard of the world-soul into a dragon's existing soul, it's likely that the auric-ness doesn't transfer genetically either

[real silo]

simply put parts of the god soul in the baby

wink wink

[icy veldt]

Fun fact: the Eastern Roman Empire had a lot of honorific titles that they gave out to people who were merely tangentially related to the imperial family, e.g. panhypersebastos "venerable above all" for the husband of the emperor's second daughter

[distant smelt]

In fairness that is like slightly closer than tangential

[thick slate]

https://tenor.com/view/charlie-kirk-tony-stark-avengers-kirkified-gif-4618820868378725995

[pliant ruin]

yeah

[dusk laurel]

[craggy sparrow]

why didnt the slaves just rebel and no diff old duke

Hes easy as shit anyways

fraud ass mf

[dusk laurel]

this is such a nothing sentence

[thick slate]

everything is nothing

[craggy sparrow]

Then nothing is everything

therefore old duke is a fraud

[icy veldt]

Nothing ever happens

[noble falcon]

There never was an old duke

Only average everyday younger duke

[craggy sparrow]

Duke just give me my fishron wings

[balmy glacier]

the terrarian is you

[craggy sparrow]

Hell nah

the way i see it, im making an oc

[balmy glacier]

*insert the image of a guy pointing with some dogwater text

[craggy sparrow]

i dont like self insert mcs tbh

i just couldn't see myself being in the game itself especially on something like calamity

[balmy glacier]

thanks 🙏

[craggy sparrow]

stop lurking

everytime

someone says the terrarian is you

its scary...

[split mortar]

I dont know what you expect from me

To not terrarian is you??

[craggy sparrow]

yo ass

is not gaster

[split mortar]

I wasnt even lurking i went here to look for a dev statement and just saw the current convo

[craggy sparrow]

lies

you lie in wake

to send that img

[split mortar]

Im better then i was in the past with the image

[noble falcon]

The terrarian isn’t me
He lost to turkor, no way I’d ever do that
Nooo way

[craggy sparrow]

I like to think everytime my terrarian loses a boss fight they either get flung so hard far away or just get saved by other npcs that just happen to be nearby

[noble falcon]

Do you think the aerie gets wifi
And if so, would Yharim be a toxic online gamer

[mighty zenith]

the terrarian is phone guy...

[mighty zenith]

yharim would be a facebook conservative type

just posting political nonsense

probably not even himself, just someone on his PR team

[craggy sparrow]

Yharim would unironically post little dark age edits

of stalin

[noble falcon]

In auric tesla armor

[craggy sparrow]

Does yharim have his own version of grifter influencers that he has on payroll

[latent bolt]

draedon making shitposts

[craggy sparrow]

whats the calamity equivalent of charlie kirk

[split mortar]

You can always make one

[noble falcon]

No, Draedon would be like a one-man community notes army
Just telling Yharim why he’s an idiot on like everything he posts

[craggy sparrow]

I DIDN'T EVEN MENTION IT THIS TIME

THE CURSE OF THAT IMAGE STAINS THIS CHANNEL

[latent bolt]

you know who else's lore is up to you!!!

[split mortar]

Its not just this channel its even in outside parts a bit

[split mortar]

The subjects gender

From reign if yharim

[noble falcon]

Yharim would unironically have smth like Concord as his favorite game I think

[wanton pendant]

Are you saying he doesn't like Stalin I have no idea what that means.

[craggy sparrow]

Does yharim support hrt

[latent bolt]

Yharim would make really badly made Doom fan maps

[craggy sparrow]

if so do they plan on getting on hrt

[craggy sparrow]

No

[latent bolt]

yharim as a woman would be truly terrifying for the world

[craggy sparrow]

like praising the ussr lol

[craggy sparrow]

fuh nah

[split mortar]

In calamity theres the gender change potion which is far better then hrt im pretty sure

[craggy sparrow]

Probably made by draedon

then given the recipe to terrarians

W draedon

[split mortar]

Nah it was the dragon of transexuals

[mighty zenith]

hrt was invented by the god of gender whose body festered into the hallow

thats right

yharim killed gender

[noble falcon]

He’d watch half a video about MyHouse and consider himself an expert on fanmade doom content

[mighty zenith]

cancel him

[thick slate]

based

tbh

gender sux

[craggy sparrow]

We should all be genderless beings

preferably in a robotic body

[noble falcon]

Yharim is totally an iPad kid
I feel confident about this

[craggy sparrow]

sitting in a anti gravitational chair

[latent bolt]

what kind of dragon did this god eat man

[craggy sparrow]

being a reddit mod

chud

[split mortar]

Dragon of transexuality

[mighty zenith]

dragon of bigotry

[latent bolt]

dragon of plain old sex

[noble falcon]

Not like Draedon’s awesome science chair
He actually gets stuff done

[latent bolt]

worse than Sexodia

[craggy sparrow]

is there a dragon of fent

[split mortar]

Dragon of drugs

[craggy sparrow]

i think they played a major role of sealing the moon lord

[mighty zenith]

that would imply fentanyl is a natural resource

[thick slate]

i want to be a swarm of bees

[thick slate]

mmm fent

[latent bolt]

uhhh the dragon of drugs was turned into the god of poisonings

[craggy sparrow]

it was made so by xeroc

because they said it would be lit

[split mortar]

Xeroc does weed not fent iirc

[latent bolt]

fent is also the reason why noxus isnt fucking here

[final bison]

hot take about calamity lore:

i have gotten to the point where im forced to accept that im going to meet my end

[final bison]

yk theres a flavor foley song about this

[split mortar]

What does this mean

[noble falcon]

Who would Yharim main in Overwatch 2

[split mortar]

Whose the most anti gods character in overwatch

[noble falcon]

Idk actually
I just figured he’d play as toxic of a playstyle as possible

I really like this collective idea of Yharim just being a total bum in the aerie who still thinks he’s some kinda big shot

[light moth]

hi lore chat what r we talking bout

[split mortar]

Nothing rn

[noble falcon]

Do you think Yharon has like a big dog bed in the aerie, or smth similar

[pulsar ocean]

Would yharim be a fan of the old lore

[split mortar]

Had xeroc as capital g god so no

[noble falcon]

Yharim wouldn’t be a fan of anything unless it’s something everyone else didn’t like

[long bloom]

bird nest

[noble falcon]

The aerie must have some big trees to make that work

Which it very well could, we dont know yet

[long vine]

can auric discharges be used to boil water and generate energy

[dusk laurel]

i mean its called the dragon's aerie so its atleast a metaphorical nest

[long bloom]

it could be on the ground

[noble falcon]

No I mean to get the stuff to make the nest

Unless it’s just a big pile of fancy rocks
Again, also possible, not exactly knowledgeable on auric dragon behaviors

Actually, better idea
Yharim built him a big auric plating dog house, except it’s a dragon house

[limpid saddle]

idk flesh is inconvient and all but i feel like theres better options than steel & ceramic

[noble falcon]

Most certainly

[pulsar ocean]

Would draedon be able to solve the fnaf lore

[noble falcon]

One billion percent
He’d make an Exo Theorist machine specifically for that

[long vine]

glamrock freddy runs off of exo prisms

[noble falcon]

Which of the main 4 security breach animatronics would fit best with each exo mech

I’m thinking Monty is Thanatos, Roxy and chica are artemis and Apollo, and Freddy is ares

[pulsar ocean]

Gregory runs off exo prisms

[noble falcon]

Burntrap in draedon’s exo chair

There’s some amazing art potential here

Fighting them with the princess quest sword like the murasama

[icy veldt]

Flesh is edible, but steel and ceramic are not

[noble falcon]

Of course they are
Are they good for you to eat? No, but that doesn’t change the fact that you CAN eat them

[hoary cape]

Burntrap isn't even canon

How can he be draedon's chair

Fun fact burn trap wasn't even supposed to really exist, but steel wool misunderstood what was talked about and made him a boss fight 😂 they thought Afton was back

[noble falcon]

Alright, put the mimic or smth in the chair

[pulsar ocean]

I thought burntrap was the mimic

[pulsar ocean]

Like glitchtrap

[hoary cape]

Yah because Scott had to retcon the mistake

But burntrap was really only supposed to be like an Easter egg that never did anything

[pulsar ocean]

I remembering hearing that Scott gave like no coherent instructions on lore

So steel wool had to improvise

[hoary cape]

That was true. Though there was an interview afterwards that said that when Scott was discussing the burn trap Easter egg Steel Wool misunderstood and thought it meant Afton was back and made it a boss fight

So in the Ruin dlc it got retconned to have just been a) not canon as that was not the canon ending and b) to have been the mimic

[pulsar ocean]

I feel like secret of the mimic turned out to be better cuz the studio like, actually knew what they were making

They’re definitely capable of good games

[hoary cape]

Scott didn't want to give them lore info and that resulted in miscommunications so I think they learned their lesson on that end 😂

[long bloom]

y'know what
the timeline where security breach was actually really good would be a lot worse than what we got

[pulsar ocean]

I’m still wondering what the hell happened to the stuff from the trailer like the male voice

[agile matrix]

i think the methods of which scott and toby fox handle lore are very different but somewhat similar

scott has all the lore, he just chooses to not disclose it

toby fox discloses it, but cryptically until people figure it out later

(or until he feels like it)

[long bloom]

someone actually made an hour+ video on their storytelling methods

[pulsar ocean]

He literally forgot what was in the fnaf 4 box

[long bloom]

and why the fnaf story is garbage

[hoary cape]

Did Scott fully step back now? I know he stepped back when steel wool took over, but I knew he was still involved

[long bloom]

he's still there iirc

[young socket]

not at all what he said

[pulsar ocean]

Then what was it
The interview was a while ago

[long bloom]

ok but you cannot deny scott has just been making shit up since the second game

[hoary cape]

FNAF 4 is such an odd game lore wise that I don't even think the creator knows the lore 😂

It's been changed like 10 times

[young socket]

he said the contents of the box had changed

like the physical objects that were inside

but it still represents the same things

[long bloom]

it never represented anything to begin with

it was just cheap theory food

[pulsar ocean]

It’s funny how in the 2nd movie they literally just reversed the game lore

[pulsar ocean]

nvm I’m uneducated on my fnaf I forgot fnaf 2 was always the precursor location

[hoary cape]

Luckily the books and movies are not really canon and only have small bits of stuff that actually applies lore wise to the actual canon

FNAF 2 is indeed before FNAF 1

[pulsar ocean]

Also one thing I’m sad about is that they were calling the fnaf 2 location the first one that means Fredbear’s family diner just doesn’t exist in the movie lore 😔

[wanton pendant]

Like a sister location or something?

[hoary cape]

I always come back

William Afton or something

[long vine]

"I always come back" william said, aftonly

"this is my message to my master" yharon said, dragonly

[noble falcon]

“hoo boy, big robot” draedon said intellect-ly

[split mortar]

Since moonlord looks like a humanoid being
Would any dragons have started conspiracy theories that humanoid species originate or are otherwise affected by ml
I imagine if so then gods would have not helped this

[limpid saddle]

auric dragon posting online about how the azafurian government is surveilling him at all times to entrap & kill him (hes right)

[noble falcon]

Yharim and Yharon’s conspiracy podcast discussing how the Lihzahrds and the pirates are working together to send Darksun Fragment stocks plummeting

[icy veldt]

Me (I'm the Azafurian government)

[noble falcon]

Azafure Witch Money Gang
We love burning souls
This song is sponsored by the Exo Government

[glossy wolf]

So if Cthulhu isnt canon, then what are the cultists (including the Lunatic Cultist) up to?

[dusk laurel]

they are referred to as the dragon cult

[glossy wolf]

ohh, what are they doing tho

[split mortar]

Keeping the seal on ml up so the possible end of the world does not possibly end the world

[dusk laurel]

they revere the dragons, are maintaining the seal that keeps moon lord sealed on the moon, used to control the dungeon in the past as a library and structure around ceaseless void, and uh might dabble in trying to revive dragons (lunatic cultist summons a dragon in the fight, the eidolists appear to be transformed into a dragon-like form, etc etc.)

[noble falcon]

Their desire to keep the moon lord locked away isnt as strong as my desire to get the celestial starboard

[split mortar]

Well yeah theyre fictional

[noble falcon]

Yeah I’m aware

[glossy wolf]

Is there a video on YT that is up to date and goes over the complete (or at least known) lore?

[leaden bridge]

Yeah that's kinda how writing long running franchises works

[agile matrix]

see this is why you plan for everything right at the start

and then just never make the game

[long bloom]

[agile matrix]

speaking from experience ha ha !

[wanton pendant]

We wish.

[sinful adder]

YouTube is full of liars. There's a Google doc though

[glossy wolf]

Is there a link to it? Is it even reliable info

[sinful adder]

It is reliable because it's made by the lore writers

It's uh

Hold on

Here

[wanton pendant]

You know it's reliable because we make the British find sources.

[pearl halo]

is there any source of inspiration for the calamity lore?

[long bloom]

you'll have to ask a writer whenever one shows up

there's cei, hagurihat and stipulatevenus mainly

[pearl halo]

oh, okay

because i've been reading the yellow king and wow

there's a lot of things similar to calamity lore

[eager bluff]

no real big overarching one

individual elements take inspiration from a lot of different places

i dont think king in yellow is one of the inspirations though at least not in any major fashion

the play that makes you insane isnt that big of an element

[pearl halo]

just saying

[eager bluff]

yeah its just coincidence

[long bloom]

did you write cal?

[eager bluff]

i know the writers

[long bloom]

me too
still not gonna talk for them about their thought processes

[eager bluff]

and i am pretty sure most of this stuff was written before most of them had even heard of king in yellow and i dont think most of them have even read it to this day

i could be entirely wrong here but with that and also considering there have only been 9 ish mentions of it in this entire channels history its very likely that its coincidence

[glossy wolf]

Are the 3 sentinels even canonically related to DoG??

[hybrid barn]

Not really, not anymore at least
They're just three entities that're from the Distortion in some capacity

[fleet wedge]

Guys quick
What would Providence's name be if she killed a dragon of water instead

Speaking of, can we also add this option to slime god?

This but with Draedon
"TONIGHT WE RESEARCH: THE MOON"

What's Chrysadia again?

How would it only exist in the past though

[fleet wedge]

Almost?

[real silo]

Yep I did it once

Not a fun time

[fleet wedge]

I'm saving that

[fleet wedge]

Man this just reminded me about the planned reaper shark rework

[fleet wedge]

Wait who changed this emote

[fleet wedge]

Who tf is subject
Do you like play as a Draedon's experiment in that game?
(I mean it would make sense )

[fleet wedge]

https://youtu.be/qELJDWEzYaw?si=WRY5sx9qNnvly94L

[fleet wedge]

insert the yharim yomi hustle mod

[split mortar]

Providence still
She would still be hated due to her extreme belief of kill everyone

[split mortar]

Sky civ that had connection to vetrasyl
Was nuked as it was fovos first target

[split mortar]

iirc yea

[fleet wedge]

Is there any kind of significant reason why Signus is called that?
(Both in and out of the universe)

[mighty zenith]

signus is just his name

envoy of the devourer is an outdated title because he hasnt gotten a replacement one yet

he's not actually DoG's underling

[final bison]

could you use an auric soul to power your pc

[split mortar]

Would be the least efficient use of an auric soul ever

[pulsar ocean]

Why can’t we make an exo toilet

[strong notch]

?

[pulsar ocean]

bliss

[copper inlet]

draedon didnt make miracle matter?

[dusk laurel]

yeah he didnt

well, he didnt stabilize it like how we did, it was unintentionally produced when the exos fight us

[copper inlet]

so the sparks after they died?

[dusk laurel]

uhh i dont remember what it looks like when they die but the exos often inflict miracle blight iirc in the fight

[real silo]

Ares blender does

[copper inlet]

i dont remember that happening

[real silo]

Dunno about the others

[copper inlet]

other than the spin laser

[dusk laurel]

yeah the blender

[copper inlet]

does worm gigalaser do it?

[split mortar]

Split lasers and gamma disintergration beam

[limpid saddle]

Y'know it really is a feat of engineering that Draedon managed to make robots that have such adaptable & context-sensitive on-board AI that all of them manage to jury-rig their own melting components into devastating final attacks

[strong notch]

It's not a bug, it's a feature

Sometimes bugs make really nice features

and that's what happened during development of exo mechs

[pulsar ocean]

how much water does draedon consume to run his ai

[limpid saddle]

how much water does it take to make like

179 exo prisms

[strong notch]

either entire sulphurous sea worth of water or none at all

[craggy sparrow]

Why the fuck

do we need an exo toilet for

ah yes the most fucking expensive metal alloy

turned into a shitting chair

glorious idea terrarian

fuck you alex

[languid badge]

What dont we need an exo toilet for

Exo toilet best weapon in the game

[craggy sparrow]

I'm not referring to the replied or anyone btw, this is just the name of my terrarian in my canon

[split mortar]

Up to you if the terrarian does make it

[noble falcon]

We have the diamond toilet, we have the terra toilet
The exo toilet is just the natural final evolution

[split mortar]

Exo toilet

[feral skiff]

my name is actually alex and i am very offended.

(it’s actually not)

[fleet wedge]

Don't tell this guy about the auric toilet

[soft flame]

not being worthy to use a toilet of all things

imagine wanting to take a shit on a toilet and it flings you 5 miles in the air in its enraged contempt

[wanton pendant]

Do you know Steve?

[noble falcon]

The kind of stuff Yharim has to deal with in the aerie

[split mortar]

Nop he does not get rejected

[noble falcon]

Welp

[noble falcon]

Yharim probably thinks Google Stadia is the best console

[mighty zenith]

yharim doesnt know what the fuck a console is

[noble falcon]

He totally does

Draedon probably at least mentioned something about them at some point

There probably isn’t a tech thing he DIDNT talk about

[feral skiff]

yharim played one of those NES bootleg clones and now hates video games forever

[noble falcon]

Yharon, on the other hand, is a dragon of refined taste
His favorite video game is Peggle

The original one specifically

[soft flame]

hmm

so is there any sort of lore that says why cal clone is wearing the guise of retinazer clone

[dusk laurel]

no

because its not canon

[split mortar]

Outdated sprite moment basically

[soft flame]

oh

[dusk laurel]

remnant of the art being so old

her sprite is ancient indeed

[pulsar ocean]

where does yhar har har get food in the aerie

[hybrid barn]

I think there kind of is, but there is in the same way that there's lore that explains how Queen Slime is stronger than Slime God, it's just a bandaid fix of "oh yeah, that's just a machine she's riding around"

[soft flame]

mm

[dusk laurel]

no she just doesnt have any lore for the machine thats around her

[split mortar]

The ggg has been alerted

Casuals let the expert yap

[limpid saddle]

Yeah the explanation i recall is that the current sprite is a pod containing the clone

[hybrid barn]

Personally, that's part of why while I love the reinterpretations of the big ass machine body in redesigns (both official and fan-made), I hope that it's just scrapped entirely when one is finalized, there's no reason for it to be there beyond calling back to her roots

[pulsar ocean]

where are my paragraphs of text

[limpid saddle]

This is supported by the yharim lore item that says 'to think, this housed a clone of the brimstone witch'

[dusk laurel]

💔

[limpid saddle]

then he says some shit about he & dreadons bad breakup

[pulsar ocean]

didnt draedon think that spreading a plague over the bees and the jungle in general would hurt yharim's feelings

[hybrid barn]

And personally, I think it takes away from her looking recognizeably like a clone of Calamitas for the sake of making her look more...imposing, maybe? Monstrous?

[leaden bridge]

what if instead of calamitas clone it was yhari, clone and they added supreme yharim

[pulsar ocean]

supreme fighter ai yharim

[hybrid barn]

Supreme Godseeker, Yhorm

[limpid saddle]

if we consider the yharim yomi hustle mod canon this is already true...

[pulsar ocean]

is the godseeker title canon

[split mortar]

No

[pulsar ocean]

but he seeks gods

to kill them

[limpid saddle]

true

[icy veldt]

Godsneeder

[hybrid barn]

This is from the Yharim disambiguation page on the official wiki

[random mulch]

draedon refers to yharim as the godseeker plenty of times

[hybrid barn]

So I don't know if it's official in universe, but it's officially recognized

[limpid saddle]

where the hell did golden heretic come from

[pulsar ocean]

yeah and also draedon says hes the jungle tyrant which isnt true

[hybrid barn]

That's...a good question
It's awesome though

[random mulch]

amidias dialogue

[hybrid barn]

Ah of course, Amidias would come up with a nickname that sick

[split mortar]

Traitor Almighty is sick

[random mulch]

to me "gilded heretic" rolls of the tongue more than "golden heretic"

[pulsar ocean]

does amidias recover from his soul getting stolen

[limpid saddle]

why is amidas out here giving his greatest enemy, the man who carpet bombed his kingdom with a 15 year-old the hardest titles imaginable

[hybrid barn]

Ooh, that's a good point though

More fluidity between the words

[random mulch]

also kinda fits because it's not like yharim is made of gold or smth

[split mortar]

Same reason yharim calls xeroc traitor almighty

[random mulch]

and something being gilded is it being covered in gold, yknow, like yharim in his armor

[limpid saddle]

everybody in calamity is always aura farming

[hybrid barn]

Also it is pretty funny, but at the same time, I know of a lot of terrible people in real life that were given nicknames like those

[random mulch]

vlad the impaler moment

[dusk laurel]

the ottomans when wallachia

[random mulch]

very unfortunate that DoG already trademarked the term "godslayer"

because "Yharim the godslayer" goes kinda hard

[soft flame]

he committed heresy against the gods i assume

[random mulch]

but what if two of those titles got mashed together into the heretic king

[hybrid barn]

Ooh, like a contrast to the "God king" the god of dogma wanted him to be

[agile matrix]

godseeker has always sounded like the enemies scal spawns

never been a fan

[split mortar]

God king of eternity

[untold oracle]

Yharim the jungle dragon

[agile matrix]

thats too much

[split mortar]

Dragon king of Primordial Light

[untold oracle]

Huh when did melon become a donor

[agile matrix]

still too much

like yea he ended the deific age but also like

[split mortar]

Birday

[agile matrix]

theres a line

[dusk laurel]

deltaw bimonthly appearance

hiiii deltaw

[untold oracle]

Hai Googly Podoboo Koi

[dusk laurel]

wtf

[long bloom]

Snailrook

[magic epoch]

No, dog stuff is "God Slayer." It could be "Godslayer", that's very different

[abstract hedge]

He's already called Godseeker, adding Godslayer seems a bit much.

[noble falcon]

You know, if the people of the world stopped giving bad guys awesome titles, we’d probably have less bad guys
Like if I was Yharim and I found out the people knew me as Yharim the Stupid Idiot Dumbass, I’d probably call it there

Like just pack it up and go home

[craggy sparrow]

Yharim probably doesn't even like his title that much anymore

Our terrarians are probably getting called "Hero" or "The savior" along those lines

Think he prefers to be called that considering what he wants to ultimately achieve

[wanton pendant]

Well he should have thought about that before he sought the gods.

[craggy sparrow]

Should've not done a genocide onto so many kingdoms

[wanton pendant]

He may have lost his cool there.

[icy veldt]

Shouldn't have been so fond of dragons

[noble falcon]

Yharim apology video when

[abstract hedge]

Never

He doesn't regret a thing.

[noble falcon]

Yharim anti-apology video when

[long bloom]

he regrets abusing calamitas but that's it

[craggy sparrow]

father of the year

[copper inlet]

doesnt he regret not stomping eol to the ground?

[long bloom]

he was her boss

permafrost was her dad

[craggy sparrow]

permafrost wore the skirt in the relationship

yharim was the drunk dad

[long bloom]

no that was draedon

[copper inlet]

draedon the crazy uncle

[craggy sparrow]

draedon is that one hill billy uncle

that just makes shit

from his shed

[copper inlet]

but he actually makes stuff strong as fuck

[craggy sparrow]

The wonderful exo toilet

a marvel of engineering

[copper inlet]

instead of breaks when breathed on too hard

[craggy sparrow]

it even has a bidet

and an automatic wiper

[pulsar ocean]

Does yharim know how to play the ukulele

[midnight plume]

Lore wise, what explains us to not be able to find stuff like auric ore until after defeating Yharon? Or needing to defeat providence for uwubloom bars? /gen

[hybrid barn]

I don't know if there's a confirmed explanation, but a theory of mine for the first one is that the souls of the other dragons were absorbed before fragments could break off of them...as for the second thing, though-

I'm actually certain that there isn't an explanation

[long bloom]

uelibloom is being removed Eventually

as for auric we don't fucking know

[midnight plume]

What will it be replaced with?

[hybrid barn]

I don't think we know yet- the initial idea was a profaned ore, but I think that's up for debate now

Considering that it wouldn't solve the problem of it being able to mine auric just...not making any sense

[long bloom]

the armor will be rethemed to profaned stuff and just found in the world (possibly the profaned biome)

[midnight plume]

There will be a new biome for uwubloom substitude?

[long bloom]

next update virid vanguard will become the upgrade to igneous exaltation

idk about the others

[long bloom]

the profaned biome might be added, and if it is, that would not be the main purpose

it would be a dedicated place for profaned enemies to spawn and to fight the bosses

also worldbuilding

[midnight plume]

Wonder if providence will be reworked to not need to fight her twice or night time

[long bloom]

night providence is removed next update

it'll just be blue providence

[midnight plume]

What

[long bloom]

spawned by using the profaned core again when she's alive

[midnight plume]

Providence is getting mega buffed?

[long bloom]

regular providence will still be there

the spawn method of blue providence is changing

[midnight plume]

You'll need to still fight her in hell and hallow?

[long bloom]

most likely

[pulsar ocean]

why don’t they just add a profaned garden in hell

Where u summon her on her altar

[midnight plume]

Atp I just sequence break polter, much less trouble, although not really excited to start another world after my critical skill issue against thanatos

[long bloom]

copyright infringement /j

actually it would be cool if elysian aegis was a drop/craft from guardians

they actually dash at you

and the time between valor and its upgrade would be less comical

[midnight plume]

and deal contact dmg while occupying a hitbox as big as providence

[agile matrix]

do we know what gods were killed in what order? vaguely?

its curious to think abt, since maybe its what gods yharim thought killing would be important for undermining morale/power

[pulsar ocean]

Providence was killed last

[random mulch]

yharim didn't kill providence

[pulsar ocean]

He just said what gods were killed

Not killed by yharim

[agile matrix]

specified; yharims crusade kills

you pedant

[random mulch]

the order isn't exactly known for the most part, the gods making up the corruption / crimson were the first and only later did the gods making up the hallowed get killed

though according to the master doc, the god of dogma (no name revealed yet) was the first god killed

2 of the most "recent" gods killed are otonilou and tyrian as the incineration of ilmeris was not too long ago (relatively)

[agile matrix]

how DIDNT draedon make the miracle matter before us

[random mulch]

draedon technically did make miracle matter before us, exo mechs components overheating and melting together causes an unstable form of miracle matter to be from

[agile matrix]

oh that is a very cool concept

imagine making weapons out of miracle slag

[random mulch]

it's why certain attacks from the exo mechs inflict miracle blight

[agile matrix]

ohhhh

[random mulch]

of course this miracle matter is unstable and would eventually just eat away at the components until it stops working

[noble falcon]

Draedon popping off in his gamer chair seeing a new tier of science made accessible by his stuff getting exploded

[copper inlet]

is miracle matter canonically obtainable?

[random mulch]

yes

[copper inlet]

doesnt the pumpkin moon like not exist?

[random mulch]

the pumpkin moon isn't canon because it's a bunch of references

[copper inlet]

frost moon isnt canon either?

[random mulch]

no

[copper inlet]

so is terra blade obtainable in canon?

[random mulch]

probably

[copper inlet]

mothron isnt canon tho

its a reference i think

[random mulch]

it isn't but even then there's nothing saying the terra blade isn't canon

in canon it'd probably just be another living shard craft like the rest of the terra set

[copper inlet]

so how is the event particle things made?

[random mulch]

what event particle

[copper inlet]

the frost moon, pumpkin moon and solar eclipse things that float

[random mulch]

oh those

they're not canon

the event moon buffs will be removed and the energies will be replaced by new distortion materials in the distortion update

[copper inlet]

so canonically it is currently impossible to obtain?

[random mulch]

the energies just aren't canon but their crafts are

what's in the mod just hasn't caught up to what's canon

[copper inlet]

so then draedon is just crashing out that miracle matter is unobtainable because a third of the materials straight up dont exist?

[random mulch]

miracle matter is obtainable

[copper inlet]

but he cant stabilise them without those?

he probably has other methods tho

[eager bluff]

its more accurate to, instead of saying the materials arent canon, say there are materials there that are canon

ship of theseus materials

[random mulch]

he doesn't know how to stabilize miracle matter because he wasn't dumb enough to try and shove random things together hoping it'd work

[eager bluff]

yeah

[copper inlet]

would he crash out if exo toilet?

[eager bluff]

he never actually made miracle matter and its a miracle we made that matter

[random mulch]

we were the first to stabilize it, draedon was the first to make it (on accident)

[random mulch]

he'd probably just be confused on why

[agile matrix]

intrigued as to why moreso

“an entire brand new physical substance spent on. a toilet?”

[split mortar]

Wawa

[craggy sparrow]

how many prime moonlord

does it take to kill xeroc

[pulsar ocean]

act normal

[pulsar ocean]

Idk but it takes 40 fully coordinated yharim’s to kill xeroc

[craggy sparrow]

Hey guys welcome to my 100 player calamity challenge

and today were sliming out xeroc in his crib

and stealing his J's

[split mortar]

I ate paper yesterday

[pulsar ocean]

I like turtles

[split mortar]

Ok garbo

[craggy sparrow]

Did it give you knowledge

[cloud ibex]

no

[split mortar]

Knowledge i learnt many times
Paper tastes boring

[craggy sparrow]

Eat one again

They're pretty normal to me

[pulsar ocean]

you think differently colored cardboard has different flavors

[random mulch]

paint

[pulsar ocean]

Have you tried to know

[random mulch]

paint probably has a taste considering it has a smell

[wanton pendant]

We traded boss taste discussion for paper taste discussion. Amazing.

[random mulch]

how strong would paper made from plantera be

[split mortar]

Life shard

[pulsar ocean]

what if this was powerscaling discussion

[random mulch]

what if draedon was flat

[craggy sparrow]

What if hes fat

[random mulch]

he's a robot

[thick slate]

hes fat

maybe he should invent the exo treadmill

maybe some biofuel instead of diesel

fat fuck

[neat jetty]

So what the lore for signus?

[thick slate]

edgelord

has edgelord followers

marketable plushie

[limpid saddle]

he's like the pr guy for the distortion

[split mortar]

A distortion entity that shares some resemblence to noxus in but i forgot the exacts on that
Worshipped by the onyx kinsman
It likely does not die our fight and uses statis as the physical body for the fight (not really in game rn)
When statis and braelor got sent to the distortion statis sold his arm and leg to signus to get freedom out the distortion
Thats all i rember

[limpid saddle]

he does deals with people from regular world to his advantage

[thick slate]

https://tenor.com/view/why-are-you-purple-why-are-you-blue-gif-12888662250624277935

[split mortar]

True why is signus ourple

[craggy sparrow]

It uses a puppet because its a fraud

[dusk laurel]

people will call anything a fraud

[split mortar]

You dont exist