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the only xeroc relation is how, before it released, for a fairly short period of time it was called xeroc and supposed to be old lore xeroc which is no longer the case sorry i have to do the bold things i need to ensure people dont miss the part where this is not a thing anymore
I love how an intelligent lore conversation is being broken up by words like glupshitto
🔥
And genocidotron
its like the vampire issue i think
I can tell the wotg devs tried to make it clear that it was xeroc tho
no
no they did not
they did the exact opposite they made it clear it was Not xeroc
With the terminus and the symbol in the sprite being the same from boss rush
Or i thought atleast damn
wtf is nameless deity then
nobody else from when he became a god is around and hes lived for so long that he cant reasonably form those connections anymore
Ykw that checks out
Final bosses of the mod being the devil, from the outer space bible, and god
it would be like if, for example, someone from 1825 was suddenly transported to todays world. everything is so vastly different from how it was for them now that they cant hope to form a lot of the bonds other people can
I think he could form connections but it'd be like really hard
I think if anything a like
headcanon of Terrarian and Xeroc actually becoming friends could be really fun
It could genuinely help Xeroc alot with his issues
Because think about it
I like thinking that it’s because his form just got reduced to the boss rush symbol
Part of the reason he's like that
it didnt
Is because he thinks he's the only one capable of defending the world against noxus
Nobody else can do this, so he has to make sure to do it no matter what
It’s funnier that way let me have this
It's why he never gives himself a break, never loses sight of that goal
thats just something that shows up he has an actual body
But the Terrarian's existence proves that Hey, there's Other People that can stand up to thins like this
xeroc is the ultimate workaholic
You don't have to put all that burden ONLY on yourself
Xeroc is japanese
Wait now I’m thinking about it what did the terrarian look like from the perspective of other things like xeroc or yharim
what will dai think of this
...
h. h.s dçl, gdas,m.sd. asrkapwm
calm down cheese
help me
Did I miss something
The
will continue until morale improves
I’ve been in this server for like 2 days chill out
stupid inside joke
😭
dw about it
the terrarian
jokes aside
The terrarian's lore is entirely up to your interpretation so it can be whatever
All that really does factor in is that yeah Yharim actually got interested in you, seeing you as powerful enough for him to try manipulating you into his successor
And meanwhile, Xeroc was genuinely impressed by how strong you are, remarking how rare it is for a mortal toa chieve such heights
The main ways I see games put the players into it is either all things go through a rebirth cycle so respawning is normal, or it’s a time thing so in lore you have literally done everything first try
i dont think xeroc understands the culture in modern day in the same way that people in the modern day dont really understand the culture from when he was a person and not john god
he would be making references to things that people have forgotten about, making jokes that dont work anymore because of linguistic shift, stuff like that
and in the other side of the conversation they would be trying to relate experiences to him that i dont think he ever had, making jokes that currently work, but using language that didnt exist for xeroc, and those kinds of things
oh my god
thats so fucking true actually
im gonna make that into my new headcanon thats hilarious
Like in undertale you technically do everything first try bc of saves
xeroc ve making jokes only told by 5th century french monarchs
the world has moved on but hes been such a workaholic for the past thousand years that he just missed all of it
I like to think that yharim is a bit mad at us looking at how we show him up in like a week or two doing things he couldn’t do through his whole crusade
Like killing empress of light
undertale's save system is part of the story, calamity's respawning is not
theoretically you could make it your headcanon but that just complicates things
I mean I had more examples but undertale was the first thing that came to mind
he was born in a time where, relatively speaking to us in an out of universe context, the cure for cholera was a crucifix, people didnt know other continents existed, and sliced bread hadnt been invented yet
Like in Elden ring lore you do everything first try because a death sends you back to the point where you interacted with grace last
Different same different or smth
Thinking about the pure blood dragon stuff earlier ia ctually have had a thought
What is Yharim's signature weapon?
Sord
Just a headcanon but thinking
What if the existing dragons were separated in
Auric Dragons, Pure Dragons and Wild Dragons
Auric Dragons being, obviously, the ... well, Dragons with auric souls.
"Pure" dragons in this case are all the dragons that were b orn without an auric soul, but were born very close to the original Dragons and due to this, alot of the magic power of their forebearers is still present in their body, despite them not having control over a domain. Some examples of this would be Old Duke or Primordial wyrm. They also seem to generally be sapient
"Wild" dragons would be dragons taht were born several generations after the auric dragons or maybe even were born of entirely seaprate lineages taht were never auric to begin with, leading them to being far more mundane organisms and often not even sapient. Not to say they can't have magic or anything but they're nothinjg excepctional, and most of them seem to be more animalistic/bestial
This would also be less of a "hard" distinction as much as its a pipeline. Like Elder Basilisk per example would be treading the line between Pure and Wild
What's elder basil
great sand shark replacement
Ohh
really fat and old basilisk but not as old as old duke/primwyrm
I think the idea is that while its smarter than the average dumbass basilisks its not like fully sapient lik those two
It's more like
caveman grug intelligence
So ti's sorta inbetween the point where the dragons are still like fully sapient like OD and the point theyre kinda just animalistic like most other "common" offshoots such as fishrons or basilisks
tbf regardless of this headcanon old duke and pw are still sorta that regardless
Pure dragons probably have much longer lifespans too
if bro had been born 0.633 seconds earlier he wouldve gotten an auric soul /j
The last auric soul was probably given like 3-4 thousand years ago
I feel like this wording is potentially a bit less confusing than Auric Dragon vs Dragon Offshoot/Non-Auric Dragon
wheres john dragon
@cosmic zenith hi john dragon
what do u think of my idea ...
yknow whats fucked
the last auric soul given out was the one that the Dragon of Faith got
and the one that would've gotten it otherwise is Old Duke, the guy who has absolutely n ofaith in auric dragons and fucking hates them
It's like 5 am for stiplate
Was that confurm
Auric soul of trust me bro
it is n fact 5 am for stipulate venus because it also is for me im just #insomnia
Damn
dragon of faith telling OD to cope, seethe and mald after it got the last auric soul
Od got the soul of atheism
dragon of faith would then come to regret this as OD would take his advice to heart and proceed to not stop coping, seething and malding for the next thousand years, in the proccess establishing a authoritarian fascist regime over the sulphur sea and probably laughing at the ass of every single fucking auric dragon for the fact he outlived literally all of them but one
OD was the original ranked competitive hater
Ngl crazy idea but i think itd go hard as fuck if OD, somehow
actually contributed to atleast onej of the auric dragons diyng
I feels like something he'd do
I don't think he'd actively go out and kill them
Old duke kills a dragon and ascends with its soul
But he absolutely feels like the type of slimy bastard to play his moves just the right way to all but guarantee that someone would get killed and be like "damn skill issue, if i was there i wouldve just done better ngl"
yknow how his future armor drop is known as the "dragon hunter" set
yeah
what if he just had some guy do it for him
Old Duke would do things in a way where he COULD get away with saying "welll technically i didnttt ask them to do thattt"
like its very obvious what his intention was but he did things in a way where, TECHNICALLY, not his fault
he a lawyer
perchance
"Oh i just gave them all that stuff cause they're a good friend of mine, no other reason
"
Officer I had no idea the dragon hunter guy would use the dragon hunter gun I gave him to hunt dragons
Why did yharon not clock this guy's shit
Is he stupid
yes
i think old duke would see auric dragons dying left and right and see himself, with no auric soul, surviving all this time, and use it to justfiy why he's actually way better than them and why he deserved the respect and praise they got far more than themselves
Old Duke could be a interesting parallel to yharim even in the sense he sees himself as a story of osmeone who rose up from nothing into greatness rather than being privileged from birth, and because of that his actions are righteous and are from someone who deserves everything they get. but at the same time he's someone deeply addicted to self indulgence and due to the fact that deep down bro probably has a horrible inferiority complex he just can't stand to not be at the top, to not be able to exhert his rule and control over others, because in his mind the auric dragons took that control away from him, they took his destiny as one of them
I think it'd be specially ironic if, despite what Old Duke were to tell you, some dragosn were actually rather nice to him, and were willign to accept him as one of their own. I'm sure some of them would've DEFINITELY just been straight up racist but to fit in CAlamity's themes of how a group can't be shallowly defined as good or evil without considering the nuance of the individuals, i think there aboslutely would be compassionate Dragons who would've accepted OD as one of their own, evenw ithout an auric soul. But bro was just so consumed by jealously and that craving desire of "I want to do what they can do, it's so unfair that i wasn't born with that ability" that he couldn't even accept that
Anyways thanks for listening to my hog rant
I just think old duke is a really fascinating character with alot of potential and it is quite unfortunate he has such a (admittedly earned) dogshit reputation in the mod's community because while i will not deny everything le ading up to his addition and his content currently ingame is Ass, the future plans for him genuinely give him the craziest glow up of all time
rise up old duke fans they cant win against all 5 of us
Alternate reality where he realizes the error of his ways and becomes a virtuous dragon king replacing zeratros' throne
😭
g
Old Duke:
truth duke?
It's 4 am and I'm laughing my ass off at "truth duke"
Someone make this but it's amidias and SSO tomorrow
Nuh uh, all dragons were bad
this is an avitus message
All dragons participated in dragon society and made the surface scorched to a crisp so they are bad
Jk
Yharim likes dragons, therefore dragons = evil
Wait brain blast
Old duke should be like groal
"yes I bathe in sewage, I thrive in grime and hatred, survive my gauntlet of malformed fucks. I am the ultimate slimy bastard"
Skongers, is Old duke just like Groal the Great
Is divine swine the fursona of xeroc
no

read my world generation messages

Tsuki you lack whimsy
Glowing mushrooms should have been related to the dragon of death, and it's a travesty they aren't
Hi I'm going insane due to lack of SSO and also lack of slee
you should fix that
also i think not everything needs to be related to the overarching plot of all the dragon shitfucklery
things are allowed to just Exist, there can just be glowing mushrooms underground that don't relate much to anything else
It's true
It'd also be lame if THE dragon of death is related to these stupid mushrooms alone and nothing else
i personally like the evil alien mushrooms idea
glowing mushrooms just kinda do that
no special origins, no ties to bigger powers, there are just parasitic mushrooms underground
i fucking love the evil alien mushrooms idea its so fucking funny
and it fits so well with their aesthethics
like yes u could absolutely convince me these fuckass glowing psychedelic crab-controlling mushrooms r aliens
might be aliens tho .
and that's really funny .
where's your evidence
Well you see
Glowing mushrooms are only found in two palces
Underground
and in Planetoids
There are no surface mushroom biomes whatsoever
if they're from space how did they get underground
Mushroom meteor .......
Holy shit.
then why would it not be on the surface
SHROOMITE BARS
I eated it all
Like it's not confirmed or anything and i don't think it ever will be but i talked with kanaya about it a while back and i love the concept its so fucking funny
Fell undergound a really long time ago
So the only strains left are either deep in caves or in the planetoids they originally come from
It fits their entire Vibes super well too like even the music for the glowing mushroom biomes has a sort of psychedelic alien vibe to it
yes
planetoids are so guhlp sky rework please save them
there's bees in the surface
^
plus bees don't fit alien aesthethics at all
and it'd be wacky stupid if bees were aliens fsr 😭 😭
but glowing mushrooms actually fit the concept and its really fucking funny so its what im choosing to believe in
im a alien glowing mushroom truther
eh
@spare pier speak ur shit sister
glowing mushrooms feel more cordyceps but glowy to me
turns you into a hornet
I mean they ARE still that regardless one way or another
They're still Glowing Parasitic Fungi
It's not mutually exclsuive
honestly i'm just not taking anything on planetoids seriously
rotting mana or glowing shrooms
how the hell did a perfect box of platinum bricks get into an asteroid if it originated from space
rework planetoids and remove all the weird shit from them except the glowing mushrooms
feed the agenda
alien fungus agenda
you're just a hater of whimsy and joy
you want the mushrooms to be BORING and UNINTERESTING and
keep the beehive planetoids and make them more numerous
the glowing mushrooms actually come from the moon lord planet and are the natural predators of moon lords
the reason moon lord attacked terraria was becasue it saw a young strand of its true enemy and wanted to take it down before it got too powerful
bee lord
the bees r also from the moon lord planet
except theyre moon lords favoured prey instead
🙏 🙏
what a wonderful ecosystem
bees get eaten by moon lords. moon lords get eaten by glowing mushrooms
what if one of the ancient pre world soul shattering dragons just didnt feel like it
wtf
the alien is you ... ???

clearly the bee dragon did exist
bee
Since most ascensions were imperfect, is it possible that a god got a dragon's domain that they didn't even kill
probably not
Unless they performed the ritual on one someone else killed, no.
The Dragon of Copyright would deal with them.
(Dragon of Copyright was slain, unfortunately, and replaced by the God of Patents.)
Hi Cei
is there any magic other than cryomancy that permafrost is proficient in?
yeah
is grass green
Idk I haven’t seen it before
depends on the season
cool
Reading this, I'm imagining that after Noxus is dead and he's able to rest a bit, he'd have a moment to explore the world and familiarize himself with the modern era, but it's just through like...really mundane shit. Like he watches someone make a grilled cheese but still gets excited about it like a kid at the zoo
Oh, that reminds me. Is the world an advanced technological society now?
With the influence of Draedon, surely most of the population is post-industrial.
norp
yes its true that draedon exists and he definitely advanced military technology mainly in the areas the worked with yharim by decades or even a century the majority of the population is still in the industrial revolution
theres just outliers sprinkled in between
yharim's main focus was the military so while he would want for civil technology to advance just like the military, his immediate and main focus was always killing the gods and anyone who supported them or opposed him
So just like real life empires during the industrial revolution.
yea
@cosmic zenith curious about a thing, which of the civilizations would you say had the most magic users?
like if theres a rich enough guy you can probably go into a castle and see a 72 inch widescreen but generally thats a rarity
I feel like the answer would just be whichever one had the highest population.
If I had to guess in terms of active magic users at a time
Azafure > Chrysadia > Ilmeris
Azafure by far
I wonder how much wulfrum tech helped people in heartlands advance
Cause
That tech is pretty advanced all things considered, its just made of toothpicks and prayers
Makes enough sense, considering that the strongest mage we know of came from there
But not the most knowledgeable
Yeah but we don't have a name for the civilization permafrost is from.
At least not yet.
he is good at well most magic he just prefers and is best at ice magic i believe
Where are the latter 2?
Only heard of Azafure (obsidian houses)
chrysadia is what the sky islands used to be
Azafure isn't the obsidian houses, actually
think it got nuked when ml happened?
Azafure was in the Brimstone Crags
Currently, the game only really has its outskirts
Chrysadia was the sky island civilization, which in fact got nuked by ML
Ilmeris is the now ruined sea kingdom ruled by Amidias, of which now only the Sunken Sea remains
Miscellaneous hell places, we know like nothing about them.
Ilmeris was what is now the sunken sea, Chrysadia was the sky islands.
Ilmeris was destroyed by Calamitas, Azafure by the brimstone (heat) elemental, and Chrysadia by Fovos (Moon Lord).
Obviously it's Crimsafure, Azafure's sworn rival, which is totally a real thing that I didn't make up.
are there other cities that we see the postmortem of that im not aware of? like azafure or illmeris
draedon's labs technically
I wouldn't call those remnants of cities. Outposts at most.
god forbid a godseeker want to genocide some gods
God forbid some guy is worse than any real world dictator.
At least in death count that is.
i cannot make comment
You just did though.
further comment than my plead of the fifth
Close enough, Hitler reference spotted
oh automooooooood
Afaik no real dictator has directly caused over 300 million deaths.
Why do people never plead the sixth
I plead the 2nd
sir this is an airport you dont get that here
What if i give you an auric soul
You arent?
Yharon page remake
looks better in person
also first page of index, there will be at least 4
Fucking wow
is that a pen
i wonder what ocram's lore would be
Yharon my beloved 🧡
Wouldn't it be really funny if he could rebirth gods cause they technically had auric soul parts
no
That would be like trying to hatch a scrambled egg
Great analogy actually
Every single thing in the old lore. At once.
Draedon realizing very late that a guy who’s fighting against what he calls tyranny won’t exactly like an invention that enslaves innocent creatures
Yharim is evil though, so if he doesn't like something, then it's automatically good 
I don’t think the plague bringer series was a good invention twin
Draedon did it for the love of the game too 😭
he does everything for the love of the game
- Yharim is evil (known fact)
- Yharim doesn't like the Plaguebringer (known fact)
- The Plaguebringer is a good thing (modus bellans from 1 and 2)
Wait, what if two things can be bad at the same time?
no thats impossible
What does horse have to do with this
i felt like this was the appropriate emoji
Quit horsing around.
Evil horses
If Yharim likes both of them, then yes
I can get the scientific advancement bit but where on zerocs green earth does does giving a queen bee plate armor and aids fit into that 😭
he wanted to see if he could control a sentient being
To see and push his knowledge on biology and yeah to make a possible counter to biology having free will
this is great
The newly released plushie of himself, too?

It’s kinda funny that the whole reason the jungle lab is destroyed is because Draedon showed yharim something he should have known big man wouldn’t like 😭
i thought the plague creatures broke out of containment
did draedon actually bomb his own lab or
no yharim punched a hole in the wall
Yharim broke into it
ahhhh
Draedon's labs seem to get broken into a lot.
he really should add more doors
It should probably work on that.
not into
he cannot aurafarm by descending from his gamer chair anymore
he was already in it
he needs like
Oh right he was being shown
literally any garage door
I forgot
he just punched the wall casually out of anger and it made a giant hole
very small labs actually
i hear "draedon primary outpost" and think much larger than the builds ingame
plus if yharim can blast a hole in the wall and it blows out maybe 35% of the lab and leaves it very unrepairable its not the bestest i'd think
((also an instance of yharim causing more problems while thinking he's fixing them))
Yharim is the like fourth strongest being to ever exist though.
He could probably cut a small mountain in half if he wanted.
draedon i think would know this and should probably make his buildings a bit more yharim-proof
How does one do that, exactly?
if its resistant to yharim, its very very resistant to not yharims
firstly you dont make the plague
that'd be a good start

Yharim could still blow up its labs if he wanted.
That doesn't change the resistance
resistant =/= invincible
That just doesn't give Yharim a reason to blow a hole in the wall.
im moreso saying "if its good against The Godseeker, its probably insane against like. bees."
like using the zenith on king slime, that idea
Yeah but you still haven't said how one would make a yharim resistant lab.
Unless you want all the labs to be made out of exo plating.
Which is a tad bit overboard.
i have no clue what materia draedon can use
it would be unwise for me to suggest a likely worse plating
yeah
damn
how do you think nuclear terror would taste
probably like a cicada
I mean yharim at that point had already manipulated a minor into erasing italy and also had many people die in the dungeon and more
Is the plague really worse then what yharim has already done from a point of view from someone who
Cant
Tell
Whats good or bad from any perspective
i mean in a general stake yharim is worse than draedon
but yharims gotta be THE Guy to do it
he cant let draedon be The Guy
did yharim kill and robotosize any bees tho
the goliath isnt dead it's just lobotomized
are you assuming the literal plague didnt kill bees
I imagine not, since it seems like the plague is less of a typical black death kind of plague, and moreso just an infestation of nanomachines, son!
They probably wouldn't be too effective if they could kill their hosts
As far as I can remember, yeah, it doesn't do that
The Plague wasn't designed to replace life it was designed to optimize it
& what Draedon means by optimization is apparently stripping out all the organs that arent part of the nervous system to convert into more nanites & make the creature supremely lightweight while making it hyper-aggressive & completely subsurvient to the nanovirus's prime objective
You do gotta remember the Goliath was freed before it was done cooking, presumably Draedon was going to give it a bit more finesse before his boyfriend broke in & respectively broke up with him
He just helped her control her powers
No that was permafrost
He didn’t do nothing wrong fr he saved a poor girl off the streets of azafure
yharon speechbubble
but yeah no yharim wasnt the one who helped scal with her powers
that was permafrost
also cheese can yuo change my name to snailrook perhap
this truly was our sunken sea overhaul
thank
im gonna make MORE gods
even if he did lead to her controlling her powers thats like saying the athletics director at a college taught all my classes because i got recruited for their football team
gonna make so many you could call it a PANTHEON
pantheon of the heartlands
the evil god cult that wanted to turn yharim into a puppet king is probably the closest we have to a proper god pantheon in the modw hich is fucked up
like there's Tyrian and Otonilou i Guess but that's just two guys
imagine the boss rush made all the bosses into fake gods of their topic
like king slime is god of tyranny because he is a joke
god of slime
slime god
slime goddess
queen slime is god of ignorance because slime god didnt realize they'd be cooked by it
slime god is god of slime, as obvious
Yharon would be the god of evil, because he's a dragon 
queen slime is god of pronounr wizard
yharon would be simply not be a god since they are the anti concept to a god; a dragon
i'm asking my dad about coding stuff and he said "blah blah is up to you"
and i got vietnam flashbacks
I mean a dragon god isnt impossible
like by all means
its a theoretically possible concept
did it actually happen at any point in history? good question
dragon god yharon
even an auric dragon
honestly? even if he did horrible things, yharim could be considered the protagonist in the main calamity lore, he’s directly tied to everything else in the story and causes practically everything
dont you need an auric soul to do the thing ?
Yeah
protag =/= hero
a dragon can absorb another dragons soul
huh
theoretically
Theoretically by all means its possible
well, maybe not everything, but most stuff
Whether it actually ever happened is another story
EXACTLY
okay well then god of rebirth yharon could in theory be possible
what
God of rebirth yharon wouldn't be i don't think
but god of Something yharon, theoretrically, yes
very, very
theoretically
god of [auric soul absorbed]
did he have the terminus though
this is the boss rush of "hmm. what happened if this did that."
all is possible
even if improbable
(as this is not going to happen)
i think whatever domain he'd get would be
neither rebirth nor whatever soul he absorbed
wouldnt it be a merge of both
probably
itd be a concept that somehow fits both his original domain and the absorbed soul
like if he took the soul of hope, it'd be the god of motivation or something (reborn hope)
Yharon, God of Eternity
dear god .
also uhhh
deer god when
going by the way the concept of multiple ascencions in 1 person work
a dragon god would probably be like innately fucked up
well yea
like either on the way to auric polterhastification or just already in there
thats like
4 souls in one
2 dragon souls, 2 world soul shards
^
aah
The entire reason god souls are unstable is because its Triple Soul
that's Two Times Too Many
soul³
4 is the theoretical limit of souls able to be present before auric polterification isnt it
no itd be okay yharon would just turn to ash then return in 10 x 10 years
and then he'd look either incredibly cool OR actually fucking putrid
yharon the sludge of rebirth
i think it was if a god absorbs more than 3 auric souls
so that'd be 7
nbot even a dragon anymore hes just a organi mass
i think they'd keep their phoenix title
right yeah
cause they aint a dragon but they are certainly feathered and maybe regenerative
i forgot about the part where world soul fragments are also considered souls
if the thing is a god, but currenly in a state where they arent really pure (see ravager), itd probably be "[boss], fallen god of [former title]"
blob of flesh with a single feather ontop of it
Hearing up to you in random normal irl convos has exploded me a few times
noo no
far larger id think
honestly it being somewhat DoG shaped would vaguely make sense
why
idk this mod likes worms 
wheres the funny laughing blob
the guy with big teeth
i need him

this guy yes
it would make sense because calamity likes their worms
worm xeroc
no he'd be duke fishron
empress of light retexture
eeevil
this is a fun thought experiment though
if more things were gods, what would they be the god of
cryogen i dont think would be a god, they're a box
perma would prob get the thingy
cryogen is a spell
god of frost makes sense no? unless he just attunes to magic as a whole
no soul
i dont remember if he's just full of ice magic goobidity gobs or if he just likes the ice
Soul of Cryogen (the item):
oh you're not wrong
that's not real sorry
the wings get the ascension :)
collective hallucination
yeah
A lot
uhhh
flesh polterghast
mind flayer stranger things season 3
their whole thing is being driven by hunger
not gluttony although maybe
it WOULD be funny
the domain depends on the soul consumed, not the person
oversimplified byeah
like they could absorb gluttony but be called god of the feast
because it sounds cooler
perhaps
cnidrion
eye of cthulhu i have no clue
they're just a really big eyeball
actually king slime would amalgamate
they're a lot of slimes in one bundle
slimes don't have souls
pretty sure they're like amoeba
Alive so have souls
they could be alive the same way bacteria is
Plantera is strong cause it fed on a bajillion souls no??
I think every living being probably has a soul in calamityverse
dunno if theres any confirmation of how exactly it works either way but
souls are weird
thatd be my guess
souls are so fucked because theres like five places a soul can come from
actually im pretty sure dungeon slimes can spawn the ectoplasm guys when they die
so lol
lmao
uhhh what other bosses
im mainly thinking from a title standpoint since i dont think theres auric dragons of every single thing
plantera also has many souls
slime god was a human
was a person
ye
but became slime
thats normal
gods dont have the same domains as the dragons
Person became slime
ahh okay
the only ones that do are the ones that used the terminus, undergoing a perfect ascencion
except for silva and xeroc, every god has a different domain from the ones they took
aka silva and xeroc
every single other god dosen't have the same domain as the dragon
yea thats what i thought
the amount of auric dragons that existed is estimated to be from the mid/high hundreds to low thousands
snail LIED to me .
no?
yeah that's still correct, if oversimplified
but this
it's the general rule
Yeah what they said is still true
not the exact domain
it's still adjacent to the general concept of the original domain
Gluttony > Slime because Slimes are gluttonous creatures that are primarily driven by hunger
okay so if DS took gluttony it WOULD be god of the feast
A god's domain is basically just a derivative domain from the original dragon's influenced by the god's own traits
possible
^
I think the only way for DS to become a god would be if there's a way to actually like
Ascend someone else
Like, performing the ritual on another entity rather than you
again this is the theoretical boss rush where (is it xeroc who runs the boss rush or is it someone else) thinks about what would happen
Which i mean not out of the question sicne we have
no fucking idea
what the ritual is
it's xeroc
alright then yea
If performing the ritual to ascend someone other than you is possible
Then theoretially there could be
entirely animalistic gods
such as a ascended ds
Kind of a cool concept in theory
a god that's actually just a whole ass Creature
i mean i've always presumed
get a soul bound in a position
hold terminus near position
wait until either some sorta noise or a "feeling"
take terminus now impregnated with soul
hold terminus near you and "use" it
attune over the process of however long (likely hurts like a bitch)
it makes the most sense to me
well yea but i'd presume you want a really good one
because the other way would just be to have the soul fly into your chest like you're picking it up, no
exactly 2 people used it then it was thrown into the abyss
Wait hold on
the domain depends on the soul consumed, not the person
But also
A god's domain is basically just a derivative domain from the original dragon's influenced by the god's own traits
That's not oversimplified, that's contradictory
no thats fine
if i ate the soul of gluttony, i could become the god of greed since both are similar
or if someone ate the soul of hope they could become the god of perseverance
you couldve used literally any other word
they act similar while not being directly the same
dude i dont know a better word for the term
Implanted?
implanted implies physical and empowered implies the terminus gains something from this
infused
Peak ✋😐🤚
implies the terminus gains something from it
attuned
inserted
linked
connected
infused
attached
no
Penetrated
thats worse
Not really, it just- no
im in the english mindset man. i have to think of big words that mean things other than their base
Aww, I wanted to read that
It just means "embarrassed", like it has nothing to do with imbuing 
imagine how fuckin mad yharim would be if someone did that
not only did someone kill a dragon, they then got blood on the hands of an animal that had literally nothing to do with it
Imagine if someone made Yharim into a god using Yharon's soul 
common consensus is god of eternity
yea but thats
They're literally two different deadly sins 
Bees
???
devs also support god of eternity
Also I don't think these two concepts are too closely related
like yea the guy who wanted to destroy all gods becomes a god forevermore, cruel irony
idk they seem pretty related
not any less related than flame/ashes or gluttony/slime
well yeah no
yharim will never become a god
but this is just hypotheticals
yea
as you yourself said
They're basically opposites. Hoping for things to change makes it seem like action isn't necessary
that's the opposite of rebirth
The end of the universe!
The concept of god of eternity is generally about what if yharim absorbed yharon's soul allll the way back on the god cult so maybe if he absorbed it now itd be different
Tbf this isn't out of question i think
THAT is fair
yeag
being anthonym to something is still being adjacent in a way
anthoynm
eternity being a possible domain for yhargod has been a thing since 2023
thats a good word
We're all gonna die! 🥳 Hooray!
if he took the egg back when he was told to, that would be eternity
that one makes sense
yk what else means the end
terminus
if he did it NOW, it could maybe be the god of terminus
yeah but that sounds really dumb
The Beginning and The End..
it does
im tryna think of synonyms to conclusion
but all of them are just lame
i mean being the god of conclusion isnt. horrible
just a bit of a stepdown from Godseeker
i also feel like him being the god of anything related to ends doesn't really fit yharim
cause like
he caused the end of gods and is stuck at his own conclusions without chance of change
both in the timeline where he refused to ascend and the one where he did, his whole deal in a sense is eternity
god of finality
i mean
he did bring the deific era to an end
the difference is god yharim is the eternal king of the gods, while actual yharim is trying to endlessly extend the draconic reign that has long since ended and will never return
him taking yharons soul (the guy of rebirth, renewals, redos) as the guy who ends the godly era would make sense
for him to be god of finality
yeah that too
past yharim and current yharim are two very different people
asexual reproduction??? (im spitballing here)
there are no auric souls left
do you need two aurics to make another auric
you can't make more auric souls
oh right. world soul.
it's not possible
there was a finite amount but then they got absorbed and then they got exploded and now it's just yharon
just ask yharon incredibly nicely to make another world soul
he's the guy of rebirth he can probably do it
Damn, I wonder what'd happen to the world if his soul was absorbed too
ask xeroc see if that fits into his schedule
that begs the question
do other planets have world souls
not a lot probably
No way he would, I bet the dragons are responsible for tearing it apart and dividing the shreds of it between each other
that begs the question: are world souls tied to worlds or is that a misnomer
how would they not be
i mean it doesn't seem like all the other dragon souls being absorbed did particularly much to the world itself
i've always thought that the world soul was a misname of the big bang
the dragon of death got squonched but there sure as hell still is death in the world
yeah pretty sure the world soul is in fact a literal
yknow
soul of the. yknow
no the world soul is an actual thing
its Magic
the dragon of flame got squonched but fire still exists
Did you know that the terrarian actually shattered the world soul and then went into hibernation until the events of terraria
this is true
Dunno if other planets have world souls but theoretically not out of question
No there are a bunch of dragon-descendant things like fishrons and wyrms, but none of them are auric dragons because the power couldn’t be passed on, any dragon that didn’t exist when the souls were given to dragons just had to live without them
i mean i guess it could be a creation myth but also
it comes directly from the bestiary (omniscient and objective)
The dragon's auric souls are literally just their "original" souls + the world soul shards (which is where the domains come from) so we know the world soul is an actual tangible physical thing
This is kind of a good point though, because I believe I heard that if Yharon's soul disappeared, rebirth wouldn't be possible anymore
like it really is probably just the quite literal Soul of the World
that makes sense
So does that apply for certain domains?
Imagine if there were dark auric dragons and evil auric souls and dark gods
this exists
well
auric dragons and gods is just a general topic
there were likely very not good ones
how many things can still rebirth at this point
Terrarian
zaelithar
soul of flame
providence
all bosses technically
respawning isn't canon
by refights :)
neither are boss refights
Waitwut- who's Zaelithar?
Technically just yharon. The respawn function isn’t acknowledged in lore
except scal
Zaelithar is john flame
I make the terrarian lore so I canonically respawn
potential name for dragon of flame
The evil ass dragon provi killed
proposed name for the dragon of flame
Ohhhh
yes he can be reborn but he takes too long to do so
That’s still rebirth it’s not a half truth
Who said that
correct
its half right because while he CAN come back, he takes a long time to do so and cant just reappear
In 10 years I’m gonna drill up the whole planet with the onyx drill
old duke soon surely. hes working on his evil plan to give himself an artifical auric soul it'll work out trust me
i just made this up btw
came to me in a dream
he does basically reappear tho
I don’t get the half part he still rebirths
cryogen could teeechnically be refightable because perma could just make another cryogen
after you kill yharon, if we obey the rules, you cannot refight him for 10 ingame years
calamitas made cryogen
Why don’t we just coat ectoplasm in auric to make auric souls are we stupid
okay well calamitas could
both of them probably could
half true, again; supreme calamitas is not an npc until you beat the video game
calamitas. permafrost. i need you to make me an army of cryogens
i'm going to fight yharim
with an army of ice cubes
Why didn’t calamitas fire choke yharim while he’s asleep
ks is just a really big blob, same with eoc being a big eye
tibetian monks taught him an antichoke method
also yharon
They made it together but it’s obviously mostly permafrost. yharim acknowledged that he could sense permafrosts magic in cryogenic but just didn’t pay it any mind
uhhhh what other bosses
what bosses are just really big things that arent really specific creatures
king slime and eoc are absolutely refightable yea king slime is just like a natural organism and eoc is just random divine essence glupshitto number 300
Actually I wonder something! So the only bar for being capable of ascending is having a soul, right?
theoretically, though unless the ritual can be performed on another entity that is not you then being sapient aswell
Primordial wyrms. It’s an entire species with no predators aside from the terrarian so there’s definitely more wyrms that are OLD old
How many slimes with a dead ninja guy inside could there possibly be
Nah
not primordail wyrms
jared himself is specifically blessed
the eidolons are not bosses
Makes sense, but then presumably, could the soul of someone who's already dead be ascended?
Because the soul is still there, just not the body
the single oldest and first wyrm who is not only blessed by silva but similarly to OD seems to retain alot of his sapience compared to his more animalistic counterparts
well its presumed he'd drop the entire set and then the next time you see them he never has it
good question
the mechs are. rebuildable?
Oh I missed out on og worm lore
you could rebuild the mechs but they wouldn't really be the actual mechs since yeah the souls
god i can't wait until od has actual lore
also eol and plantera
basically the conditions for refightability is
is just a big creature that theres a lot of
the enemy flees the fight when they "die"
the enemy cancels the fight when they are low
the boss can be remade consistantly
There’s not much to it, isn’t grandpa duke just like oldest known/living fishron?
scal is refightable while exos are theoretically refightable
Nah
Old duke has a shit ton of lore
or you "kill" them but they're still spared like deus
since draedon could make more it'd just be reaaaallly fucking expensive i'd think
It's just none of it is ingame yet
i thought deus died
a big thing with yharim is that hes bad at magic actually
no
No you just give him a shower
you cure it
oh awesome
he just figured "ice thing in heartlands tundra? must be permafrosts! and its going wild, so he must be dead!!"
It just dosen't look like that ingame because uhhhh old boss fight that hasnt been reworked
... how would we refight it then
you'll also probably be able to spare calclone in the future
ahh
Realistically you probably wouldnt
Deus just goes into space again and now has no reason to go fight you
Don’t the exo mechs pretty much tap in/out for their fight?
But maybe if you went into space to beat the worm up for no reason because youre bored
they fuckign explod
Old duke is not only being entirely disconnected from duke fishron and just gonna lean further into the Dragon aspect but also he's like probably the mod's #1 auric dragon hater
modern lihzahrds are too dumb to make another one
okay so not refightable
I did a bit of an analysis or just predictions for OD a while back, atleast based on what we know
let me try finding it
DoG dies full stop, Yharon takes too long to respawn
Is plantera technically refightable? Looking at the bulbs it looks like it grew into a species of plant
the sentinels are funky
it's one specific plant
plant is refightable i believe
with a shit ton of souls
weaver isn't refightable because it's just one guy
signus i guess theoretically since iirc he wont die in his fight
ceaseless is uh
complicated??
challenge run where you can only kill a boss if it can be respawned later
p
they were toying with spareable weaver iirc
weaver dies, signus vanishes, ceaseless i think just explodes
Then what’s up with the bulb blocks? Wouldn’t that be buds of the same plant as plantera
the main thing about old duke is that he extremely bitter against auric dragonkind
gameplay
due to the fact he got just this close to being one of them
question
No moral choices in MY mod about mindless slaughter
please
FREE MY WORM
FREE HIM
would he be friends with jared
no
they both, iirc, hate auric souls
just for different reasons
Nah jared dosen't hate auric souls
he hates xeroc
Is polterghast technically refightable if enough people get tossed into the dungeon over like 600 years
like enslave enslave??
yeah
yeah
One of the plans is that he has an army of enslaved dragons
yeah
tiny ass fish enslaves gigantic blessed worm???????????
Not auric dragons i mean just like normal ass dragons
tiny ass fish
Define dragon
this dude has PLANS??????????????
It gets astral infected again
every single boss does
he's being reborn as a lotus flower
no like
What if old duke has like 50 wyverns
he has sentience?????
oh
Wait I wasn’t paying attention is Jared grandpa duke?
hes literally racist
no
jared's primwyrm
yeah he's sapient


