#lore-discussion

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wind tapir
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Yeah that

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Would Helios be a good name?

pliant ruin
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Could work

wind tapir
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Cuz I was considering Nyx but that just doesn’t seem quite right

pliant ruin
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Though genuinely i think Terminus would go hard for it. Like it's literally the End, and much like how Fovos is latin for Dread

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And plus

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It'd be funny

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Terminus rock never got to exist in this timeline 💔

wind tapir
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“So, who are we fighting?”
“Terminus.”
“But I have that right here already.”

split mortar
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Ok actually a orimordial light fovos sounds like itd be a cool design
Maybe thats just my ml bias speaking

wind tapir
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Wait I should be Terminus truther

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Oh I can’t change my nickname

split mortar
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@pliant ruin

pliant ruin
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This has inspired me

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To krita i go

wind tapir
pliant ruin
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i have Ideas ™

pliant ruin
split mortar
wind tapir
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Oh

split mortar
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Payed the devs 20 quid

wind tapir
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I’d love to see it

split mortar
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Cheese art

pliant ruin
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Currently i have a Vision i wanna see if i can pull it off

wind tapir
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Wait where’s the art channel?

split mortar
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No art channel only a art server

pliant ruin
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There isn't an art channel, tho people tend to post their art in #general-media sometimes

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There is a dedicated art server tho yeah

wind tapir
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Could’ve sworn there was one last time I was no-living this server

wind tapir
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split mortar
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Wing posting

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(Boot resprites by dia)

wind tapir
long bloom
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void striders

gritty kraken
wind tapir
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Terminus for Sunken Sea upd 🔥🔥🔥 /j

long bloom
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it'll get resprited actually

wind tapir
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What will?

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The rock?

long bloom
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terminus

split mortar
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Terminus

wind tapir
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Which one?

split mortar
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Can see the resprite in the boss rush encore iirc

split mortar
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wind tapir
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Cuz I’m talking about the auric moon lord

split mortar
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Phh

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Ohh

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Ok

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I thought you meant the rock that spawns boss rush

wind tapir
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Speaking of the sunken sea update, do we have a planned time frame yet?

split mortar
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After 1.4.5 releases

wind tapir
split mortar
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Both most likely iirc

wind tapir
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Cuz those could be very different times

thorn drift
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hes void termina

thorn drift
wind tapir
thorn drift
split mortar
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Fun fact ml already has some level of pl control due to the existence of solar pilar

long bloom
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(pl = primordial light)

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((which is what the pillar's made of))

thorn drift
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Good grief

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imagine a zetaros soul moonlord

wind tapir
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Now imagine that when he was uninjured

split mortar
real glen
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WHAT IS THIS IMAGE

split mortar
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Yes thats the guys actual bestiary entry

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Go make your terrarians

visual kiln
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what is cracking my brochachos

split mortar
visual kiln
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my terrarian is a cute bunny girl with the power of stars

split mortar
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Go make you’re terrarians

visual kiln
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My terrarian is melon gun they died repeatedly to a zombie wnd then rage quit

split mortar
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🚆

fleet wedge
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icy veldt
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Nah, dragons are entirely evil (source: Yharim thinks they were good)

wind tapir
pliant ruin
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@split mortar

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Hes being Constructed

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I have a Vision ™ i hope i manage to pull it off

mighty zenith
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terrarian lord

pliant ruin
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Have some very specific details in mind

split mortar
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big chungus ⚠️

pliant ruin
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not what it is

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not what it is ^2

mighty zenith
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moo lord

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🐄

pliant ruin
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Mainly wondering wtf to do with the arms rn ngl

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I know exactly what i want to do for the chest and the head but i'm a bit stumped on the arms and legs

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His head is probably the most fun part of his design in my mind

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Also since he didn't get a perfect ascencion his domain won't be primordial light

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Partially just because it lets me do a cooler design if it's a different aesthethic

gritty kraken
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pliant ruin
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oH WAIT

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I have an idea

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For the legs

pliant ruin
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It'll be funny

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Primordial light's domain seemingly literally grants Xeroc the power of Creation to some extent

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He can literally just

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replicate bosses out of light

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So what's more fitting for distorted PL domain for Fovos than the opposite of that smugryo

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Matter erasure yippe

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real silo
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Is this for auric ascended fovor

wind tapir
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What is the order of all the lore items?

mighty zenith
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the order they're in on the wiki i guess

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since yharim talks directly to you

crude musk
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What would happen if necromancy was used on the polterghast

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would it sprout 150 000 corpses

mighty zenith
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its an amorphous mass of souls so probably not

crude musk
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yeah but they're still alive in there

mighty zenith
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isnt necromancy about animating corpses

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so it shouldnt work on polter

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like, the dungeon skeletons are how necromancy would work

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not polter

crude musk
mighty zenith
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i think so?

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ig its not entirely clear yet

dusk laurel
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it seems like you need at least part of the body

crude musk
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I thought you only needed the soul but there's nothing saying you don't also need the corpse

dusk laurel
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polterghast is only made of the souls and just a bunch of armor

crude musk
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The thing that confuses me the most is the line in the sepulcher bestiary

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What does it mean that it's based off auric rebirth

dusk laurel
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necromancy was based off yharon's ability to revive other dragons

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so its an imperfect version that has less restrictions

crude musk
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oh as a whole?

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interesting

wind tapir
crude musk
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okay but the thing about corpses is they seem to be infinite

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like calamitas's brothers

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she can recreate corpses for them as many times as needed

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doesn't that mean the corpse doesn't really matter in the procedure?

dusk laurel
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i dont think their actual bodies were larger than buildings

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its safe to assume that she can manipulate and change their bodies to be way different

crude musk
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yeah but if they get vaporized she can just remake them

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so the only necessary component is the soul, or something else we don't know about

pliant ruin
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Getting the hang of it

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Kinda gave him a dad bod tho 😭

dusk laurel
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cheese is washed

split mortar
random mulch
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What if plague was vaporized got replaced by draedon's attempt at weaponizing the astral infection clueless

real silo
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Requires like 50 retcons

random mulch
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Nah it works perfectly with nothing needing to be changed at all
Source: trust me ultimatesmug

real silo
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crusts you

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thorn drift
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Would yharim have been more powerful than xeroc if he had absorbed yharon's soul?

wanton pendant
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Likely not.

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Xeroc has around a 750 year head start on going to the god gym.

cloud ibex
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750 year head start plus a perfect ascension on the strongest of all the dragons

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How does that work

cloud ibex
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xeroc has had since they ascended to get better at controlling their power

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that's part of what separates them from all the other gods, nobody else locked in like they did to constantly work on getting stronger even after their initial ascension power boost

long bloom
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and has been training basically the entire time iirc

young socket
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also the fact that

pliant ruin
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yeah xeroc is kinda cracked

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just a wee bit

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tiny bit

young socket
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xerocs domain is actually really fucking strong for combat

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what is this??? dragon ball super??

cloud ibex
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iunno if it's straight up like

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working out

long bloom
cloud ibex
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but like testing your powers, stretching your limits, getting better at using them, finding new uses etc.

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long bloom
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some do

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some don't

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such aas...?

long bloom
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but all still have human intelligence

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cloud ibex
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silva is still humanoid yeah

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well, she was until yharim threw her in the woodchipper but yknow

long bloom
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agnus immolatus remained mostly human shaped

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oh i didnt know silva still had a body

long bloom
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but she did

cloud ibex
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agnus was partially humanoid, tyrian and otonilou don't seem to have changed too much

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i thought her essence was in the abyss- oh

long bloom
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oh yeah otonilou barely changed iirc

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and then you have shit like slime god

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Never heard of those names ...

cloud ibex
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before she was brutalized and thrown in the abyss she had a body

cloud ibex
long bloom
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at the moment

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are they like, dead

cloud ibex
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yes

long bloom
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otonilou was goddess of electricity, and tyrian was god of the sea

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hold on i think there's a chart

random mulch
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this one?

long bloom
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yeah that one

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all the gods and dragons we know of

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THERES A CHART

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OMG

random mulch
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i am john chart

long bloom
abstract hedge
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why is this even in the list who is this

long bloom
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may or may not exist

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depending on how ravager came into being

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we dunno

random mulch
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until there is even any evidence for that being possible, it stays like this

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dusk laurel
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ravager is the god of blood

long bloom
dusk laurel
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it has a different domain from angus despite being his undead form

young socket
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yea

long bloom
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nice

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isn't the wip name mizuaruna

abstract hedge
dusk laurel
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we dont know

abstract hedge
long bloom
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possibly

abstract hedge
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I don't think the revival required a second auric soul.

dusk laurel
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we dont know enough to form an answer

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Can someone clear this up for me, does yharon revive a dragon when their respective god is slain?

pliant ruin
abstract hedge
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So I don't think it should be put as having a second auric soul then.

long bloom
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the auric soul is lost forever when used for ascension

pliant ruin
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If Yharon had a god he'd be dead

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because his soul would've been consumed

abstract hedge
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Yharon is just rhe only one still alive.

pliant ruin
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^

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ye

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notwhatisaid

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oh i see

pliant ruin
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Yeah the dragons are just dead

long bloom
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it mixes with the person's soul to create a god soul

pliant ruin
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There's no bringing it back

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Them*

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Word

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My english

long bloom
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which are famously unstable

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so yharon can just, rebirth himself only?

pliant ruin
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Currently, yes

long bloom
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nowadays, yeah

dusk laurel
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theres noone else to rebirth

pliant ruin
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He could rebirth the other dragons in the past but the moment their souls are absorbed they're Gone

long bloom
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even eternity did not last

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oh alright

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so how does the connection between yharon and yharim work

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does it stop someone else from absorbing yharon?

long bloom
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no

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it just makes yharim stronger

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and possibly communicate with yharon easier

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so teeechnically you could just absorb yharon whenever you meet him, right?

pliant ruin
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They're "attuned" to eachother which can be basically be boiled down to:
They're Really Good Friends and have an extremely deep bond with eachother so Yharon's auric soul resonates with Yharim's own soul, and they baiscally form a soul bondtogether
It means Yharim can telepathically talk to Yharon and also that Yharim gets some funky buffs like being granted insane vitality

pliant ruin
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You need to know the Ritual

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Which, we don't ingame

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ooohhh

long bloom
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and his soul teleports to the aerie when he dies

pliant ruin
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Theoretically it's possible to learn it but you won't ever do so in the mod itself

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And it'd be a very hard task to do so

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As knowledge of the ritual is extreemely rare

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Impossible? No, definitely not

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Easy? Also definitely not

long bloom
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if you did somehow absorb it yharim would die instantly

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auric springlock

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awesome

long bloom
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you need to be attuned to use auric metal or else it explodes you

pulsar ocean
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what even IS auric?

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is it yharon's ore or like, just dragon-ore in general

pliant ruin
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Something something dragon soul metal

long bloom
pliant ruin
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We dunno much more than that

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It's not Yharon specifically yeah

long bloom
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that's a great question

pliant ruin
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Just Auric Dragons as a whole

pliant ruin
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Like if somehow the

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yharon soul fragments were Deleted from the armor (god knows how)

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And ohyu were, still we aring it

pliant ruin
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Yharon soul fragments

long bloom
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^

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ohh

long bloom
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when it teleports away it leaves behind shavings

pliant ruin
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Attunement is simply having a strong bond with an Auric Dragon's soul, and thus allowing you to use Auric Metal
"Mock Attunement" in this case is fusing small shards of Yharon's soul into the metal/armor itself as to trick it into thinking you're attuned

random mulch
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the auric just stops rejecting entirely

pliant ruin
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As you can see by the way the ore works ingame

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shoul-shaving is one term

pliant ruin
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If you weren't attuned (or mock attuned, in this case)

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Putting the armor on would just Fucking Kill You

long bloom
pliant ruin
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Because. yknow. auric rejection

pulsar ocean
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wait what else does amidas say that seems like crazy lore drops hidden in an npc you might never use

pulsar ocean
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will they make gorthus lore relevant

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my favorite character

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next to mart

dusk laurel
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gorthus aint even in the mod yet

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and hes not even in sso1/2

pliant ruin
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amidias will be overhauled soon. god bles sxunken se

young socket
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tells you how providence fought the yharmy by appearing, killing a bunch of lower level soldiers, then disappearing before anyone who could fight her actually come

pliant ruin
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probably just no better place to shove all of that lore into

pliant ruin
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the ghosts are in pt 2 arent they

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dusk laurel
young socket
pliant ruin
pulsar ocean
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ah

dusk laurel
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cant wait for actual dialogue trees soon

long bloom
pliant ruin
young socket
pliant ruin
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what compelled you to say sso 1/2 instead of just pt 1 vanillin

dusk laurel
pliant ruin
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vanillin

random mulch
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brian damage

dusk laurel
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i felt bored

pliant ruin
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ok reasonable[

long bloom
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amidias also tells you the shrines are dedicated to gods

pulsar ocean
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is signus the roaring knight

dusk laurel
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no

long bloom
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and who statis is

pliant ruin
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Roaring maybe

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But he dosen't strike me as much of aknight

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He's like more of a roaring drug addict

pulsar ocean
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have you ever seen signus and roaring knight in the same room

young socket
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dusk laurel
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i dont remember this yharmy soldier shrine

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enlighten me

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btw whens the yharon resprite is it just being held back for no reason or what

long bloom
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animation hell

random mulch
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wings are difficult to animate

long bloom
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(they're redoing it)

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oh okay

long bloom
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but it's more complete than the old one

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it'll be in a dedicated update after sso 1

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how far after? idk

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just at some point

random mulch
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the silhouette has already been revealed at least

long bloom
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and Leg

dusk laurel
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someone post wings of rebirth

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the crumbs of dia yharon will be gathered

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yharon color palette

pulsar ocean
split mortar
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What we loring

long bloom
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they seem to be gone now

young socket
dusk laurel
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what?

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very funny comparison between these 2

long bloom
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dw about it

random mulch
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lore and spoiler chats have the brain fungus

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the current sprite is so bad its hard to look at

long bloom
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8 years HyperFailure

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yharon looks like melted sludge

long bloom
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actually almost 9 i think

dusk laurel
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oh my god i just remembered i was around when yharon's fight still had bumblebirds in it

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💔

long bloom
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i remember angery flame

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and rainbow fire walls

hushed jasper
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Tbh tho I miss the old DoG fight where in between phases he brought in the sentinels

dusk laurel
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"way different"

split mortar
cosmic minnow
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Or when scal didn’t have her own theme

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Heck she didn’t even spawn an arena back then

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If I remember right

fleet wedge
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Remember when dog was just a destroyer reskin XD

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Sooo the line from stained brutal calamity "the witch and the prophecy"

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is that cannon, cause, whats the prophecy...?

split mortar
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not how the word prophecy is used

split mortar
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Idk what else it could be referring to

left rivet
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Is calamity mod name from giant clam or calamitas

dusk laurel
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giant clam and calamitas did not exist in the mod when it was released

split mortar
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Fabsol thought it was cool probably

hybrid barn
dusk laurel
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i dont know the full fabsol lore so i dont know if its because of some fucking lore he made up on the forums or just thought it sounded epic

hybrid barn
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Like, neither of them?

dusk laurel
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yeah

hybrid barn
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Weeiird

dusk laurel
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i think so anyway

split mortar
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Wasnt the first version just scoog and dog or something

dusk laurel
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yeah

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desert scourge
slime god
devourer of gods

left rivet
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True

hybrid barn
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Calamity without the Calamit, it's just...y

left rivet
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Wow

dusk laurel
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also known as
reskinned desert enemy
reskinned king slime
and nebula destroyer

left rivet
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Dont say that

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Im gonna have nightmares

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this mod IS very calamitous

dusk laurel
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one must imagine calamity devs happy

split mortar
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Devourer of gods vs destroyer

thick slate
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trans

left rivet
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Calamitous calamitas

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The species name
I...think

thick slate
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not latin enough

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?

thick slate
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!

young socket
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some of which did get into the game

dusk laurel
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bree lore

young socket
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i remember one example being "upgrades for the class emblems"

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and they were named like braelor smthn statis smthn yharim and calamitas

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all of which technically did get into the game

dusk laurel
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uhh sigil of calamitas

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and uhm

young socket
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braelors was badge of bravery, statis is blessing and curse, calamitas got sigil of calamitas and yharim had yharims insignia

dusk laurel
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okay ywah ive heard of that b4

pliant ruin
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wasnt braelor ranged at some point based on those items 😭

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wild

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lore

heavy zenith
long bloom
visual kiln
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minecraft creepypasta

pseudo roost
long bloom
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and follower of silva

pseudo roost
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yeah they ARE actually important but its not even remotely backed up in-game and thats really funny to me

heavy zenith
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I feel like just the fact they went toe to toe with Yharim makes them important lol

long bloom
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yeah i don't hold it against the devs or anything this is just a particularly funny consequence of that

heavy zenith
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we only know how auric works from obscure amidias dialogue

pseudo roost
# long bloom i agree it is funny

like the statis disambiguation page on the wiki calls him "a prominent figure in the calamity mod's lore" and then basically just says he had a belt and they named statigel after him

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also pretty funny how the in-game lore implies that draedon literally just does his insane evil experiments for no reason other than that he thinks its neat and wants to know what will happen i mean that cant possibly be right can it clueless ||(i love him for this hes such a good character)||

cloud ibex
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everything draedon does is for the sake of scientific development

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he would nuke an orphanage if you could convince him it'd be scientifically important

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just like how he would cure cancer if you could convince him it'd be scientifically important

split mortar
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the option to communicate with draedon and ask a bunch of stuff is so awesome

visual kiln
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hello lore discussion

pliant ruin
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florbj jumpscare

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i love how functional this app is

dusk laurel
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like a few weeks ago mobile discord kept replacing images in the channel i was viewing with random videos from like the spoiler channel 💔

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pseudo roost
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if he's not already (he probably is) he's certainly going to make himself completely immortal to continue pursuing science forever

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and when he has forever to learn as much as he can it means he'll do literally everything in the end for better and for worse

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he's inevitably going to cure cancer and blow up orphanages to see what will happen all you can convince him of is to do something sooner than he would've

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which frankly makes him terrifying

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especially given the existence of the exo mechs

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according to the lore doc those things are genuinely on par with calamitas their placement isn't just a gaming abstraction and yet he just built those with nothing but his own intelligence and technological prowess

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and yet he even says in codebreaker dialogue that exotech "has yet to be fully realized"

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it may make him potential man but my god that's some scaryass potential i don't think we should've just let this guy zip off in his gaming chair after the exo mech fight

gritty kraken
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Start dumping nanobots plague into the ocean

wanton pendant
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The elementals are closer to actual immortality imo

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Like to kill silva you'd have to wipe out all life, freeze over the entire world (including the core) to kill the heat elemental, etc.

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Draedon could theoretically live longer though cause elementals are only tied to terraria iirc.

cloud ibex
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draedon is the least immortal out of all the practically immortal characters in cal's story

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it's much more realistic to destroy all his backups than it is to Kill All Life or Destroy All Water

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but still like good fuckin luck lmao

wanton pendant
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The most immortal characters are indeed the Elementals, Yharon, and Draedon.
Everything else we know about can be killed by killing them.

abstract hedge
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Is Yharon completely immortal aside from his soul being absorbed? If so, unless someone reinvents the ritual somehow he'll be fine assuming he can't be killed as an egg or something.

dusk laurel
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i mean he can be killed as an egg, yharim was supposed to absorb his soul while he was still an egg

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the egg is durable but its not unbreakable

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other than that for now no one seems to care enough to finish him off fully

young socket
dusk laurel
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^

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yharon's soul basically teleports to the aerie whenever he dies

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one of the reasons why he lasted this long

young socket
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yharon could stay alive pretty long considering the only people who can get into the dragon aerie seem to be dragon monks

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and theyre either dead because of old age or were killed by yharim because they became a god (like dogma)

wanton pendant
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If there is a limit to how many times he can rebirth, it's probably such an exceedingly high amount that it's not really a concern.

hybrid barn
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There might be a limit if he keeps shaving pieces off of his soul, but I think it gets fully recycled otherwise, so it depends

harsh depot
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I need a show based on yharim’s crusade so badly it would be so fire there’s so much interesting stuff

wind tapir
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Bro I'm actually deciding to read up on the lore

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Awakening was actually so cool

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It felt like a recount of a fall from grace

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Yharim made the crimson?

cloud ibex
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more like allowed the crimson to happen

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same with the corruption

wind tapir
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Still it's cool as shit to think about

feral skiff
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i’d imagine it goes more into the story and lore

abstract hedge
# wind tapir Yharim made the crimson?

(Lore spoilers ahead incase you want to find out yourself)

Indirectly but yes. The corruption and crimson were formed by the countless festering corpses of evil gods who did not have their essence contained, particularly the god of dogma and god of war for the respective biomes. The hallow was formed the same way, but through the essence of neutral or good gods instead, whose essences were contained in the wall of flesh prior to its destruction.

wanton pendant
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agile matrix
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could the auric dragons communicate verbally?

dusk laurel
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yes

agile matrix
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i remember seeing something about dragons talking with people but im unsure if thats like direct talk to talk or if it was moreso talking to their mindwaves or whatever

thick slate
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mindwaves

dusk laurel
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dragons cant learn other languages but humans and other people can learn dragon language

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or they speak through attunement telepathy

frosty charm
dusk laurel
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yeah

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they just are unable to

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its just not possible

frosty charm
#

At least not beyond the way a cat or dog "speaks English"

agile matrix
#

needs too many funky syllables

thick slate
#

what does dragon sound like

pulsar ocean
frosty charm
warm gull
#

where is kiriwhite. where is he. where is kiriwhite

dusk laurel
#

@crimson junco

real silo
#

@crimson junco

crimson junco
#

😠

feral skiff
#

why are all the worm bosses just called scourges

random mulch
#

only 2 of them are called that

young socket
#

blame fab

#

he called desert scourge desert scourge and it got popular to call worms scourges

real silo
#

scourge of the univer

heavy zenith
dusk laurel
cloud ibex
crimson junco
young socket
dusk laurel
#

your corporeal form will be contorted and shredded into a fine mince

young socket
#

yea it was

#

sotu made in 2017, as added in 2018

crimson junco
#

When waa even AS

young socket
#

wat

crimson junco
#

When was AS even added

#

I'm still looking at it being a rather new thing

feral skiff
#

did it have another name or smth?

crimson junco
#

No

#

Pretty sure it's already called that in the first ever public version

pliant ruin
#

scourge of the universe is just the name of the song becasue it sounds cool

deep nebula
#

I read a bit of the lore but does it ever say why yharim became depressed and reclusive? Like a specific incident during the crusade that made him throw in the towel

pliant ruin
#

i doubt dokuro even thought of desert scourge

split mortar
pliant ruin
split mortar
#

Also that truer

pliant ruin
#

he's been up in the Aerie training for any slim hope of achieving his goals but he dosen't seem convinced he'll be able to do it - His best bet is you ( amitheterrarian )

deep nebula
#

Ah thank you thank you

pliant ruin
#

This cna be seen through the (Admittedly, futurely to be implemented in a more cohesive and well-integrated way) lore whispers, which while at first was just yharim observing you out of passing curiosity and boredom, he starts to gradually take a role of a more active manipulator and tries nudging you into his path because he notices how powerful you are and wants to try making you into his sucessor

deep nebula
#

I read xeroc said "strong enough to make me doubt my own power" when talking about yharim but on reddit posts everyone was saying yharim doesn't hold a candle to him so what's up with that?

split mortar
#

Yharim is stronger then xeroc was before he ascended
Its probably that if yharim took a different route xeroc could have actually died to yharim maybe

pulsar ocean
#

would silva be constantly dying forever if yharim was smart enough to make an auric jail

pliant ruin
#

Yharim achieved a power level to the degree he has without an auric soul and within ~100 years

#

Is he still weaker than Xeroc? Yeah, absolutely, but the doubt here comes from the fact a mortal was able to achieve such insane highs of strenght in far less time than Xeroc has

deep nebula
#

Okay that makes alot of sense

#

I don't remember does yharim fight because he wants freedom of choice for mortals or because yharom saved him and he wants to avenge the dragons?

split mortar
#

Many mortals do have freedom not all gods are oppressive to people or rule over anything
Yeah yharim wants to avenge the dragons but ignores the possible nuance on if the dragon deserves it or consented to the ascension and so has caused far more harm to the world

wanton pendant
#

Something something Yharim actually found Xeroc, tried to fight him and got slapped into next week.

#

But that's just a theory.

deep nebula
wanton pendant
#

A GAME THEORY!

#

Thanks for watching.

craggy sparrow
#

is that they keep saying they're fine to live under his rule

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even though said rule is authoritarian

#

literally big brother lol

wanton pendant
#

Well you see, if you're anti-Yharim, he has a method to convince you.

#

That method is that he kills those who side with the gods.

craggy sparrow
#

And even if you dont side with him he doesn't care if he has to use you to extract resources or as collateral

#

Literally vaporized an entire civilization

wanton pendant
#

He also had propaganda.

split mortar
#

Early in the crusade he did give more care to the people who sided with him (the hallowed mechs are consensually made iirc)
And he treated his actual soldiers well and paid them good
-# also had tech a few centuries more advanced then anyone else thanks to draedon
Tho yeah in the tail end polter happened due to him stop caring for anything but stabbing gods

pliant ruin
#

Living under yharim would be good (If you support him)

split mortar
#

^

craggy sparrow
#

If i were to overthrow him

#

i will provide free housing

low lily
#

No property taxes either

craggy sparrow
#

no

split mortar
craggy sparrow
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pay a rent sum of 2$

#

per month

#

then another 50$ for maintenance

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for each occupant

pliant ruin
#

It'd be foolish of a charismatic leader to not give those that support him comfort and quality of life, as doing so is just making the trust of his men and supporters on him stronger and further convinces people to join him
With that said however if you were against his ideology or just generally was someone the yharmy would've had reason to suspect distrust your life would probably not be As Good and it'd feel very opressive at best

craggy sparrow
#

mandatory military enlistment

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and government control over every sector

#

privatized sectors are dissolved

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and everyone is monitored

#

Am i worse than yharim? probably

#

i have aura tho

pliant ruin
#

i'm gonna monitor everyone and have the government control every sector

#

however

#

therell be taco tuesdays

#

everyone gets free taco every tuesday

craggy sparrow
#

Also everyone has to work in this building

#

called

#

L corp

#

for uuh

#

electricity

dusk laurel
pliant ruin
split mortar
wanton pendant
craggy sparrow
#

Xeroc vs my max employee with apoc gear

pliant ruin
#

yharim shouldve implemented a taco tuesday system on his controlled cities

#

literally everyone would side with him

#

fuck those gods 🔥 🔥

craggy sparrow
#

followed by cheese Wednesday

#

and then burger Thursday

pliant ruin
#

exactly

#

its so easy to garners the people support i think yharim is just stupid

split mortar
icy veldt
craggy sparrow
#

yeah but

#

you'll probably get free healthcare

#

and citizenship benefits

#

like public programs

icy veldt
#

Not if you oppose Yharim

#

And those who support him are supportive of evil, so they certainly don't deserve to be rewarded with any of that nice stuff

pliant ruin
#

I think it goes without saying that supporting super ultra gold hitler is probably bad

limpid saddle
pliant ruin
#

also there's

#

there's your lore chat h man mention

#

its been a while so i figured i had to set things right yk

icy veldt
#

Now I'm wondering: how many people in the current year (after Yharim's crusade) still support his rule, and how many still worship what's left of the gods? Roughly speaking

craggy sparrow
#

Worship torch god

limpid saddle
icy veldt
#

Okay, so are most of the survivors and their descendants too focused on trying to survive than on which wartime faction they prefer?

pliant ruin
#

It's a big world out there

#

With Yharim's army kinda falling apart they'd defintiely be like

#

far less prevalent

#

But there'd totally still be like

craggy sparrow
#

Is lebron real in the calamity verse

pliant ruin
#

Independent groups even trying to still follow in his footsteps

split mortar
craggy sparrow
#

probably

thick slate
#

im lebron so yea

icy veldt
split mortar
deep nebula
#

Is noxus canon to base calamity?

random mulch
#

yes

pliant ruin
#

Noxus is a base calamity character, "Noxus" (wotg, assuming that's where you first heard the character from) has long since been replaced by Avatar of Emptiness whic his a fully separate character with no ties to Calamity's lore

#

The old version of the boss was loosely based off a much earlier interpretation of Noxus before the lore got rewritten but that's as far as the connection went

#

Noxus is not ingame atm in calamity but if it gets added it'll be one of the two post-yharim superbosses

deep nebula
#

I read he was created by cthulu and helped the "dark lord" idk much about wotg but I'm sure that's totally not canon stuff

pliant ruin
#

Yeah i'm pretty sure that's fandom wiki lore 😭

#

That applies neither to canon calamity's noxus nor avatar of emptiness from wotg

deep nebula
#

Okay thank you 😭

#

Do we have any good lore about moonlord then in calamity? All I know is he came from outer space

pliant ruin
#

Currently not much

azure tartan
pliant ruin
#

Beyond the fact he's a really fucking strong guy that just came out of nowhere one day and decided to throw hands with everyone

#

We'll learn more later though

#

notably SSO will have some new ML lore

deep nebula
#

I hope they add more lore about outer space and the distortion 😍

deep nebula
pliant ruin
#

Indirectly basically yeah

#

His attack on the auric dragons kickstarts everything in a way

deep nebula
#

Then a certain monk decides to betray that dragon(forgot it's name)

pliant ruin
#

Xeroc, though whether it really was a betrayal is a strong topic of debate

deep nebula
#

The dragons name I forgot

pliant ruin
#

Ah the dragon

#

Zeratros

deep nebula
#

Zeratros let it happen? Or maybe died on his own and that's how xeroc got his soul?

pliant ruin
#

The only person who tells us Xeroc did it in malice is Yharim, who wasn't there and who is notably biased against gods
The actual circumstances of what happened are unknown to basically everyone even now, all that definitely happened is that Zeratros died and Xeroc absorbed his auric soul

#

With taht said, however

#

We do know that Moon Lord seemingly had an ability to permanently kill the dragons

#

Usually they'd be rebirthed by Yharon

#

But given that ML evidently culled a significant amount of their population

#

Something that'd otherwise be

#

impossible

deep nebula
#

That's crazy

#

What the hell they got going on in space

pliant ruin
#

Then it means it likely had some sort of power that let it actually kill them For Real

#

and, with that in mind

#

And considering how the text talks about how Zeratros was on his deathbed after the fight

feral skiff
#

wat if yarim is actually ood?

#

tink about it

pliant ruin
#

Picture the situation Xeroc was in at this moment

  • Fovos showed up with no warning, out of completely nowhere, almost destroyed the entire world and single handedly cut down the number of the previously thought to be undefeatable dragons by god knows how many
  • Zeratros, the strongest dragon, with the domain of primordial light, s till only managed to barely survive and with his power they were only narrowly able to achieve somewhat of a victory
  • T here was literally no warning for this. They had no way of knowing if it'd ever happen again, but it could.Who's to guarantee Fovos 2 won't just randomly happen one day?
  • What the hell would they do if this happened again and they didn't have access to the literal strongest auric domain?
#

With all of that in mind i like to think Xeroc's ascencion was very much not just him being power hungry, specially when you read his few bits of ingame dialogue

deep nebula
#

If I was yharim I would've wanted to get revenge on ML too bro just left him ofc he was sealed in the moon but still

pliant ruin
#

If he was just a power hungry maniac, he has the power to just

#

Wipe out most factions in the game

#

Yet he dosen't

#

I think Xeroc ascended because he knew Zeratros was on his deathbed, and in fear of a situation happening like this again, whether consensual or not, did what he thought was the right thing to do

#

And absorbed his soul so they'd have a fighting chance

#

And in a way he was right

#

Noxus exists

#

Noxus is the Moon Lord 2

deep nebula
#

How was noxus created do we know?

pliant ruin
#

We don't

#

Noxus is probably the most enigmatic character in the entire mod

deep nebula
#

Damn

pliant ruin
#

Dunno if it really even was "created" as much as it's just a thing that exists in the distortion

#

THe ottal information we have on it is uhh

deep nebula
#

Trying to make sense of abilities in this lore is crazy what do you mean something called "primordial light" could be defeated what kind of ability counters that 😭

pliant ruin
#
  • Probably is DoG's superior
  • Is likely using DoG to absorb divine essence for whatever reason
  • Seems ot control some sort of hivemind in the Distortion
  • Is the third strongest character in the entire mod's mythos (Not counting You), falling only behind prime ML and Xeroc respectively
  • Seemingly has the highest destructive potential of any of the characters in the entire mod however, and if it were to go through with whatever plans it has and nobody stopped it hte world would probably be fucked in some way
pliant ruin
#

He can literally

#

Just fucking make whole ass bosses out of it

#

He literally has the power to create Yharim out of thin air 😭

deep nebula
#

I'm just gonna assume everything is a conduit of mana and for whatever reason souls and mana can interact with each other

gritty kraken
deep nebula
icy veldt
eager bluff
frosty charm
icy veldt
pliant ruin
#

eats you

icy veldt
#

Yharmjak XD

latent bolt
#

potential entity

frosty charm
abstract hedge
#

Same thing with Xeroc

crude musk
#

How exactly did the lunatic cultist prevent fovos from leaving the moon for so long?

split mortar
#

Dont eat pencils

azure tartan
#

Eat

#

I eated

split mortar
crude musk
#

Are seals gonna be explained in a future update?

split mortar
#

I think the base concept is easy to get
Magic spell that stop you from accessing it or it from leaving

crude musk
#

Yeah but the moon is pretty big

#

Unless they put fovos in a cave or something

wanton pendant
#

I'd assume the seal is on Fovos, and not the moon.

crude musk
#

Well yeah

wanton pendant
#

Unless... the moon being haunted is far more haunted than we thought.

gritty kraken
crude musk
split mortar
gritty kraken
split mortar
#

Ah yeah those

royal bluff
split mortar
#

First thought wow those drawings are amazing

long bloom
#

DAMN

split mortar
craggy sparrow
#

instead he bookrots inside the library i made for him

manic coral
#

Holy fuck

craggy sparrow
#

But seriously fire artwork

manic coral
#

Yeha this is absolutely FIRE

abstract hedge
#

How long have you been working on this?

manic coral
#

Yeah I'm curious to know too

craggy sparrow
#

Ngl to think without context the codebreaker journal entry looks like that one "My co worker is losing his mind" meme

manic coral
#

Yeah no this is fucking awesome

#

You get a pass this time

craggy sparrow
#

Ngl

split mortar
#

Should i ping stip and kanaya so they can see peak

dusk laurel
#

@split mortar

craggy sparrow
#

i would easily download something like this as a mod

#

each entry being its own artwork

manic coral
# royal bluff

Anyways, I don't have TOO much to comment onright now since I'm making food aside from just

#

God damn

#

This is awesome

craggy sparrow
#

instead of just the boss prog checklist

#

with some info

young socket
manic coral
# royal bluff

@spare pier @cosmic zenith Hey you guys should take a look at this

split mortar
manic coral
#

oh

split mortar
#

Dhsidbdjd

manic coral
#

LMAO????????????

split mortar
#

SOB

dusk laurel
#

LMAO

craggy sparrow
#

The mass ping is worth it

manic coral
#

TRUE!

spare pier
#

What The Fuck

split mortar
pliant ruin
#

The horde

dusk laurel
#

kanaya you are forced to look at this

feral skiff
# royal bluff

beautiful. someone make a mod to implement this please.

#

like genuinely. just beautiful.

craggy sparrow
#

yeah im thinking of like something of a prog list

#

each enemy you encounter or item of value

spare pier
#

That Goes Unfathomably Nuclear

feral skiff
#

im struggling to comprehend how someone could be this dedicated

craggy sparrow
#

would pay the artist for that

#

handsomely

craggy sparrow
#

on deathmode

#

infernum even

split mortar
manic coral
#

Yeah no your art is AMAZING

dusk laurel
#

i would love to see any of the newer designs in this

craggy sparrow
#

i heard theres 2 bosses in this mod that gets so many re sprites

split mortar
#

True this person would cook with the newer designs i look forward to seeing their stuff in the future

long bloom
young socket
#

@pliant ruin look at this shit

manic coral
#

cheese was just here

#

:/

#

she saw it

split mortar
#

Cheese didnt react to it

long bloom
#

collecting every lorer

#

@wanton pendant

cosmic zenith
split mortar
young socket
craggy sparrow
#

This implies that every lorists here has a bait power

dusk laurel
#

@young socket look at this

split mortar
#

@real silo you even

wanton pendant
long bloom
#

cool art

young socket
long bloom
#

@long bloom

manic coral
#

the looker

dusk laurel
split mortar
robust osprey
wanton pendant
#

Damn.

robust osprey
#

awesome work

split mortar
#

@plucky lichen cool art allert

#

Ok ill stop

robust osprey
#

melongun summoning everyone

real silo
#

Oggjhjj that's amazing

spring helm
#

well this is upsetting, i didnt get summoned

real silo
#

Enviable linework

#

@spring helm pops you

split mortar
robust osprey
#

@spring helm

split mortar
real silo
#

@split mortar hey take a look at this

split mortar
#

Its peak

manic coral
#

Ok stop now please

split mortar
#

Ok

manic coral
#

just

robust osprey
#

oki

manic coral
#

Send it to people ig

mighty zenith
manic coral
#

ANYWAYS

pliant ruin
manic coral
#

i will comment further once my food is done

pliant ruin
#

also yeah i saaw it its cool ass art

#

I had seen it in genmedia already whic is why i didnt say much

#

im currently working my machinations for evil roy programming plans (the mines)

#

not gonna work on it rn tho bc ill prob stream soon (waiting for cleaning lady to b done first)

mighty zenith
#

ngl an in-universe journal would be absolutely fire merch

wheat walrus
pliant ruin
#

wanderers journal hollow knight

robust osprey
#

it's true

plucky lichen
mighty zenith
#

yes like that

split mortar
robust osprey
#

hire this girl to do an official journal

wheat walrus
#

I saw

plucky lichen
young socket
split mortar
drifting canyon
#

i could do something really funny here

mighty zenith
#

also thats like the coolest potrayal of current calclone i've ever seen

young socket
split mortar
#

It would be funny

mighty zenith
split mortar
#

Do it

drifting canyon
mighty zenith
#

ah

split mortar
young socket
#

🔥

mighty zenith
#

i was thinking of pinning it too

split mortar
#

From orios

pliant ruin
#

oh right he made a new one

split mortar
#

Coloured ver

young socket
#

dear god PLEASE

pliant ruin
#

sure why not

pliant ruin
young socket
#

PLEASE GIVE DISCORD PIN MANAGEMENT

#

PLEASE

cloud ibex
#

that would require actually making discord good

pliant ruin
#

perfect

split mortar
#

😭

cloud ibex
#

so we know that's not happening

pliant ruin
#

wtf who deleted my message

#

evil

drifting canyon
#

A

split mortar
drifting canyon
#

sorry i was deleting my repinning spam

#

lmao

pliant ruin
#

fair enough

#

lul

#

great trifecta of the 3 first pinned messages anyone looks at in this channel

young socket
#

ah yes

wanton pendant
#

Well you get the long version of the lore, and then the short version.

young socket
#

the 3 lore docs

random mulch
split mortar
#

Hehehehe

young socket
#

@ mods please credit original artists

random mulch
#

.

pliant ruin
#

wonderful

#

5000 mrobillion pins

mighty zenith
#

can we kill melon gun now

split mortar
#

What why

mighty zenith
#

im bored

random mulch
#

to the paper shredder with you

split mortar
strange stump
#

im dad

mighty zenith
#

no you're space

#

hi space

cloud ibex
dusk laurel
#

agree

crude musk
# royal bluff

Ooh are you the same person that made the vanilla terraria journal?

royal bluff
royal bluff
royal bluff
#

I'll do a full flip through on my channel once I finish the index

#

over 460 terms

crude musk
#

Yeah, I checked the video and the writing is different

#

Still, very peak, I adore it

royal bluff
#

my goal for it was to get the devs' attention so I am so happy rn

#

yall lmk if there's anything from the mod you guys wanna see in particular

crude musk
#

Also I'd like to see Yharon, or anything dragon related really if it's not a problem

plucky lichen
#

This is also the typa stuff stip would adore

plucky lichen
#

Also

#

Hello lore chat

split mortar
split mortar
plucky lichen
#

Very rare Lainey appearance

#

Are catgirls canon to calamity

#

important to know

split mortar
#

Theres nothing proving they exist but theres a few ways it would be possible (same curse as zoologist) or just a sapient race or species we havent seen

crude musk
royal bluff
#

the page is sending

split mortar
royal bluff
#

doodoo wifi

split mortar
#

Rip

crude musk
#

Yharon's current sprite that isn't in the game is amazing

#

Yharon's old new sprite

royal bluff
split mortar
#

True its peak still

royal bluff
dusk laurel
#

this is amazing

split mortar
#

Wow what the fuck

crude musk
#

It's just... so peak

#

Yharon looks feral that pic, which would be fitting for when he fights you

royal bluff
#

im redrawing some enemies that I don't like the original drawings for

#

rimehounds specifically

royal bluff
# mighty zenith

another page I might redraw. once im done with lunch I'll send the pic

mighty zenith
#

:D

royal bluff
#

I love aureus XD

crude musk
#

Did you hear about the potential change in the future where you'll see an uncorrupted aureus walking around in early hardmode?

royal bluff
#

oooo that's cool asf

mighty zenith
#

it'll also get inverse kinematics eventually

#

so its gonna look like a rain world enemy

azure tartan
feral skiff
#

can we get xeroc too (even if he only shows up in the boss rush)

real glen
#

lore doc is refusing to load

#

i hate this

royal bluff
#

finna redraw this

young socket
#

@mighty zenith

mighty zenith
#

still fire af

azure tartan
crude musk
#

Very interesting

left rivet
#

Does yharim pay taxes?

random mulch
#

who would he pay taxes to...

#

it's his empire

left rivet
#

Xeroc

left rivet
random mulch
#

why would he pay xeroc anything

left rivet
#

Idk

#

Why would he

crude musk
#

Because he got his ass beat

left rivet
#

They are divorce lovers

#

Yharim and xeroc were lovers until draedon comes in and stole yharim

#

Is that cannon

random mulch
#

no