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Could work
Cuz I was considering Nyx but that just doesn’t seem quite right
Though genuinely i think Terminus would go hard for it. Like it's literally the End, and much like how Fovos is latin for Dread
And plus
It'd be funny
Terminus rock never got to exist in this timeline 💔
“So, who are we fighting?”
“Terminus.”
“But I have that right here already.”
Ok actually a orimordial light fovos sounds like itd be a cool design
Maybe thats just my ml bias speaking
@pliant ruin
Rq how did u get the Cosmilite role?
i have Ideas ™
patreon
Patreon tier
Oh
Payed the devs 20 quid
Cheese art
I will preface by saying i'm not exactly a good artist
I draw pretty infrequently but
Currently i have a Vision i wanna see if i can pull it off
Wait where’s the art channel?
No art channel only a art server
There isn't an art channel, tho people tend to post their art in #general-media sometimes
There is a dedicated art server tho yeah
Could’ve sworn there was one last time I was no-living this server
Oh
it's been archived for years
The middle wings look sick
void striders
was going to draw noxus but this sound cooler I sthink imma try that
Terminus for Sunken Sea upd 🔥🔥🔥 /j
it'll get resprited actually
terminus
Terminus
Which one?
Can see the resprite in the boss rush encore iirc
Terminus is only one item
the terminus 
Cuz I’m talking about the auric moon lord
Speaking of the sunken sea update, do we have a planned time frame yet?
After 1.4.5 releases
For vanilla or Tmod
Both most likely iirc
Cuz those could be very different times
hes void termina
not this year
prolly beginning of next year? No one is quite sure yet
Like Kirby?
yeah
Fun fact ml already has some level of pl control due to the existence of solar pilar
Now imagine that when he was uninjured
WHAT IS THIS IMAGE
Kingslayer 3 from mod of redemption turned into terrarian meme
Yes thats the guys actual bestiary entry
Go make your terrarians
what is cracking my brochachos
Go make your terrarians
my terrarian is a cute bunny girl with the power of stars
Go make you’re terrarians
My terrarian is melon gun they died repeatedly to a zombie wnd then rage quit
Peak idea 
WAIT
Nah, dragons are entirely evil (source: Yharim thinks they were good)
The only right answe
@split mortar
Hes being Constructed
I have a Vision ™ i hope i manage to pull it off
terrarian lord
Have some very specific details in mind
big chungus ⚠️
Mainly wondering wtf to do with the arms rn ngl
I know exactly what i want to do for the chest and the head but i'm a bit stumped on the arms and legs
His head is probably the most fun part of his design in my mind
Also since he didn't get a perfect ascencion his domain won't be primordial light
Partially just because it lets me do a cooler design if it's a different aesthethic
Already messed up the face
Solar domain (they are warped PL) 
Nah i know exactly what i'll give him already
It'll be funny
Primordial light's domain seemingly literally grants Xeroc the power of Creation to some extent
He can literally just
replicate bosses out of light
So what's more fitting for distorted PL domain for Fovos than the opposite of that 
Matter erasure yippe
Ebonia solos
Flashbang domain 
What is the order of all the lore items?
What would happen if necromancy was used on the polterghast
would it sprout 150 000 corpses
its an amorphous mass of souls so probably not
yeah but they're still alive in there
isnt necromancy about animating corpses
so it shouldnt work on polter
like, the dungeon skeletons are how necromancy would work
not polter
do you need the corpse?
it seems like you need at least part of the body
I thought you only needed the soul but there's nothing saying you don't also need the corpse
polterghast is only made of the souls and just a bunch of armor
The thing that confuses me the most is the line in the sepulcher bestiary
What does it mean that it's based off auric rebirth
necromancy was based off yharon's ability to revive other dragons
so its an imperfect version that has less restrictions
Well if we want to get into semantics, what you’re talking about is reanimation. Necromancy is just controlling the dead
okay but the thing about corpses is they seem to be infinite
like calamitas's brothers
she can recreate corpses for them as many times as needed
doesn't that mean the corpse doesn't really matter in the procedure?
i dont think their actual bodies were larger than buildings
its safe to assume that she can manipulate and change their bodies to be way different
yeah but if they get vaporized she can just remake them
so the only necessary component is the soul, or something else we don't know about
cheese is washed
😭
What if plague was vaporized got replaced by draedon's attempt at weaponizing the astral infection 
Requires like 50 retcons
Nah it works perfectly with nothing needing to be changed at all
Source: trust me 
crusts you

Well, no, they're explicitly described as nothing more than husks of their former selves, so it stands to reason that some of the soul is lost when performing necromancy, depending on how many times she did it
Would yharim have been more powerful than xeroc if he had absorbed yharon's soul?
750 year head start plus a perfect ascension on the strongest of all the dragons
a head start...?
How does that work
xeroc has had since they ascended to get better at controlling their power
that's part of what separates them from all the other gods, nobody else locked in like they did to constantly work on getting stronger even after their initial ascension power boost
xeroc ascended 750 years before yharim had the opportunity
and has been training basically the entire time iirc
also the fact that
xerocs domain is actually really fucking strong for combat
i didnt know training was a thing in calamity for gods??
what is this??? dragon ball super??
gods are just really powerful people
people can hone any skill
but like testing your powers, stretching your limits, getting better at using them, finding new uses etc.
noo i dont know if i'd call the gods people when they dont even retain a human shape...
such aas...?
but all still have human intelligence
silva stayed basically the same
silva is still humanoid yeah
well, she was until yharim threw her in the woodchipper but yknow
agnus immolatus remained mostly human shaped
oh i didnt know silva still had a body
agnus was partially humanoid, tyrian and otonilou don't seem to have changed too much
i thought her essence was in the abyss- oh
Never heard of those names ...
before she was brutalized and thrown in the abyss she had a body
ilmeris' deities
they're barely mentioned in game
at the moment
are they like, dead
yes
otonilou was goddess of electricity, and tyrian was god of the sea
hold on i think there's a chart
this one?
i am john chart

I feel like ravager should be in its own section to the right of Agnus but otherwise that's sick.
why is this even in the list who is this
until there is even any evidence for that being possible, it stays like this
Is that the one left of ravager? Ravager is just undead agnus idk why it puts them as having absorbed a different soul.
ravager is the god of blood
wait is dragon of tides confirmed
it has a different domain from angus despite being his undead form
yea
Yeah but they're also the same thing as agnus, just revived after their death. Was it ever confirmed that it absorbed a second soul or something?
we dont know
I'd assume that's a side effect of necromancy being imperfect, we don't have any other examples to go off of though so idk.
possibly
I don't think the revival required a second auric soul.
we dont know enough to form an answer
Can someone clear this up for me, does yharon revive a dragon when their respective god is slain?
people =/ human
Lihzahrds and Illmerans aren't human but they're still people so the same goes for gods, even if a good few of them look nothing like their mortal forsm
So I don't think it should be put as having a second auric soul then.
no
No
Yharon dosen't have god
the auric soul is lost forever when used for ascension
Yharon is just rhe only one still alive.
notwhatisaid
oh i see
Yeah the dragons are just dead
it mixes with the person's soul to create a god soul
which are famously unstable
so yharon can just, rebirth himself only?
Currently, yes
nowadays, yeah
theres noone else to rebirth
He could rebirth the other dragons in the past but the moment their souls are absorbed they're Gone
even eternity did not last
oh alright
so how does the connection between yharon and yharim work
does it stop someone else from absorbing yharon?
so teeechnically you could just absorb yharon whenever you meet him, right?
They're "attuned" to eachother which can be basically be boiled down to:
They're Really Good Friends and have an extremely deep bond with eachother so Yharon's auric soul resonates with Yharim's own soul, and they baiscally form a soul bondtogether
It means Yharim can telepathically talk to Yharon and also that Yharim gets some funky buffs like being granted insane vitality
Nrly
You need to know the Ritual
Which, we don't ingame
ooohhh
and his soul teleports to the aerie when he dies
Theoretically it's possible to learn it but you won't ever do so in the mod itself
And it'd be a very hard task to do so
As knowledge of the ritual is extreemely rare
Impossible? No, definitely not
Easy? Also definitely not
awesome
you need to be attuned to use auric metal or else it explodes you
would we also get springlocked if the yharon soul pieces evaporated
Something something dragon soul metal
(the terrarian tricks it into thinking you're attuned when you're not)
i
don't
know
that's a great question
Just Auric Dragons as a whole
uhhhhhhhhhh probablyy?
Like if somehow the
yharon soul fragments were Deleted from the armor (god knows how)
And ohyu were, still we aring it
how even..
Yharon soul fragments
^
ohh
when it teleports away it leaves behind shavings
Attunement is simply having a strong bond with an Auric Dragon's soul, and thus allowing you to use Auric Metal
"Mock Attunement" in this case is fusing small shards of Yharon's soul into the metal/armor itself as to trick it into thinking you're attuned
the auric just stops rejecting entirely
As you can see by the way the ore works ingame
shoul-shaving is one term
If you weren't attuned (or mock attuned, in this case)
Putting the armor on would just Fucking Kill You
all of this is revealed in one (1) piece of obscure amidias help dialogue
Because. yknow. auric rejection
you need an infinite amount of soul pieces to become a god
wait what else does amidas say that seems like crazy lore drops hidden in an npc you might never use
amidias will be overhauled soon. god bles sxunken se
tells you how providence fought the yharmy by appearing, killing a bunch of lower level soldiers, then disappearing before anyone who could fight her actually come
isnt gorth sso 2
probably just no better place to shove all of that lore into
the ghosts are in pt 2 arent they
he reveals the sulphur sea is so bad because draedon started dumping plutonium in it
awesomeee, is it in the next update
the dude from the sunken sea isnt in sunken sea overhaul?
i meant 1/2 as in half
yup thats revealed in god damn amidias help dialogue
ye
ah
cant wait for actual dialogue trees soon
masune is p1, rest are p2
vanillin why would you ever say it like that
oh yea thats technically the earliest mention of that
what compelled you to say sso 1/2 instead of just pt 1 vanillin

vanillin
brian damage
i felt bored
ok reasonable[
amidias also tells you the shrines are dedicated to gods
is signus the roaring knight
no
and who statis is
Roaring maybe
But he dosen't strike me as much of aknight
He's like more of a roaring drug addict
have you ever seen signus and roaring knight in the same room
he says that but like 2 are natural, 2 are the corpses of dead gods and another was most likely made by a yharmy soldier
Thats a really good theory
btw whens the yharon resprite is it just being held back for no reason or what
animation hell
wings are difficult to animate
(they're redoing it)
oh okay
but it's more complete than the old one
it'll be in a dedicated update after sso 1
how far after? idk
just at some point
the silhouette has already been revealed at least
and Leg
yharon color palette
dess idk
What we loring
go back to playing terraria baka gun

what?
very funny comparison between these 2
lore and spoiler chats have the brain fungus
the current sprite is so bad its hard to look at
8 years 
yharon looks like melted sludge
actually almost 9 i think
oh my god i just remembered i was around when yharon's fight still had bumblebirds in it
💔
Back in my day we had way different fights
Tbh tho I miss the old DoG fight where in between phases he brought in the sentinels
I can get why but
Why
Let
Us
Fight the minibosses earlier
Oh I remember that
Or when scal didn’t have her own theme
Heck she didn’t even spawn an arena back then
If I remember right
Remember when dog was just a destroyer reskin 
Sooo the line from stained brutal calamity "the witch and the prophecy"
is that cannon, cause, whats the prophecy...?
Sbc does not follow the new canon due to multiple issues and so isnt canon
The prophecy prob referring to the terrarian (YOU)
not how the word prophecy is used
Idk what else it could be referring to
Is calamity mod name from giant clam or calamitas
giant clam and calamitas did not exist in the mod when it was released
Fabsol thought it was cool probably
Calamitas wasn't in the original version?
i dont know the full fabsol lore so i dont know if its because of some fucking lore he made up on the forums or just thought it sounded epic
Like, neither of them?
yeah
Weeiird
i think so anyway
Wasnt the first version just scoog and dog or something
True
Calamity without the Calamit, it's just...y
Wow
this mod IS very calamitous
one must imagine calamity devs happy
Devourer of gods vs destroyer
not latin enough
?
!
iirc fabsol laid out quite a lot of plans in the old forums
some of which did get into the game
bree lore
i remember one example being "upgrades for the class emblems"
and they were named like braelor smthn statis smthn yharim and calamitas
all of which technically did get into the game
braelors was badge of bravery, statis is blessing and curse, calamitas got sigil of calamitas and yharim had yharims insignia
okay ywah ive heard of that b4
lore

for years the only image we had of braelor was regular melee tarragon
still think it's really funny how basically the only lore conveyed about statis and braelor in-game is that they had a couple accessories and they are very important because trust me bro
yharim says braelor is a legendary warrior
and follower of silva
yeah they ARE actually important but its not even remotely backed up in-game and thats really funny to me
I feel like just the fact they went toe to toe with Yharim makes them important lol
something something unfinished mod
yeah i don't hold it against the devs or anything this is just a particularly funny consequence of that
real
i agree it is funny
we only know how auric works from obscure amidias dialogue
like the statis disambiguation page on the wiki calls him "a prominent figure in the calamity mod's lore" and then basically just says he had a belt and they named statigel after him
also pretty funny how the in-game lore implies that draedon literally just does his insane evil experiments for no reason other than that he thinks its neat and wants to know what will happen i mean that cant possibly be right can it
||(i love him for this hes such a good character)||
yeah that's literally why
everything draedon does is for the sake of scientific development
he would nuke an orphanage if you could convince him it'd be scientifically important
just like how he would cure cancer if you could convince him it'd be scientifically important
Y are you responding to flor 😭
the option to communicate with draedon and ask a bunch of stuff is so awesome
hello lore discussion
Evil ass discord??
florbj jumpscare
i love how functional this app is
like a few weeks ago mobile discord kept replacing images in the channel i was viewing with random videos from like the spoiler channel 💔
Pisscord reaching new sewage levels
i feel like the most fucked up part is that you can't exactly convince him you can just push him in an inevitable direction
if he's not already (he probably is) he's certainly going to make himself completely immortal to continue pursuing science forever
and when he has forever to learn as much as he can it means he'll do literally everything in the end for better and for worse
he's inevitably going to cure cancer and blow up orphanages to see what will happen all you can convince him of is to do something sooner than he would've
which frankly makes him terrifying
especially given the existence of the exo mechs
according to the lore doc those things are genuinely on par with calamitas their placement isn't just a gaming abstraction and yet he just built those with nothing but his own intelligence and technological prowess
and yet he even says in codebreaker dialogue that exotech "has yet to be fully realized"
it may make him potential man but my god that's some scaryass potential i don't think we should've just let this guy zip off in his gaming chair after the exo mech fight
Start dumping nanobots plague into the ocean
He's one of the conditionally immortal characters.
So long as at least a single backup of him exists, Draedon will live on.
You technically can kill him, but it's exceedingly impractical.
You would need to find every body, every server, every possible backup on the planet.
He's as immortal as you can really get.
The elementals are closer to actual immortality imo
Like to kill silva you'd have to wipe out all life, freeze over the entire world (including the core) to kill the heat elemental, etc.
Draedon could theoretically live longer though cause elementals are only tied to terraria iirc.
draedon is the least immortal out of all the practically immortal characters in cal's story
it's much more realistic to destroy all his backups than it is to Kill All Life or Destroy All Water
but still like good fuckin luck lmao
The most immortal characters are indeed the Elementals, Yharon, and Draedon.
Everything else we know about can be killed by killing them.
Is Yharon completely immortal aside from his soul being absorbed? If so, unless someone reinvents the ritual somehow he'll be fine assuming he can't be killed as an egg or something.
i mean he can be killed as an egg, yharim was supposed to absorb his soul while he was still an egg
the egg is durable but its not unbreakable
other than that for now no one seems to care enough to finish him off fully
he can die while in the egg but all that does is just restart the rebirth timer
^
yharon's soul basically teleports to the aerie whenever he dies
one of the reasons why he lasted this long
yharon could stay alive pretty long considering the only people who can get into the dragon aerie seem to be dragon monks
and theyre either dead because of old age or were killed by yharim because they became a god (like dogma)
If there is a limit to how many times he can rebirth, it's probably such an exceedingly high amount that it's not really a concern.
There might be a limit if he keeps shaving pieces off of his soul, but I think it gets fully recycled otherwise, so it depends
I need a show based on yharim’s crusade so badly it would be so fire there’s so much interesting stuff
None we know of.
Bro I'm actually deciding to read up on the lore
Awakening was actually so cool
It felt like a recount of a fall from grace
Yharim made the crimson?
Still it's cool as shit to think about
check out “Yharim’s Reign”, a Calamity Mod fangame
i’d imagine it goes more into the story and lore
(Lore spoilers ahead incase you want to find out yourself)
Indirectly but yes. The corruption and crimson were formed by the countless festering corpses of evil gods who did not have their essence contained, particularly the god of dogma and god of war for the respective biomes. The hallow was formed the same way, but through the essence of neutral or good gods instead, whose essences were contained in the wall of flesh prior to its destruction.
Is that different from Reign of Yharim, or are you misremembering the name?
if ur talking about reign of yharim, the story occurs after the crusade
oh
oops
so he dies to cell ragequitting
could the auric dragons communicate verbally?
yes
i remember seeing something about dragons talking with people but im unsure if thats like direct talk to talk or if it was moreso talking to their mindwaves or whatever
mindwaves
dragons cant learn other languages but humans and other people can learn dragon language
or they speak through attunement telepathy
I think they were intelligent enough to learn, but they just don't have the anatomy to speak it
At least not beyond the way a cat or dog "speaks English"
needs too many funky syllables
what does dragon sound like
Like a dragon
Honestly I think they sound like Kyogre
where is kiriwhite. where is he. where is kiriwhite
@crimson junco
@crimson junco
😠
why are all the worm bosses just called scourges
only 2 of them are called that
blame fab
he called desert scourge desert scourge and it got popular to call worms scourges
scourge of the univer
How have i just now realized this
fapsol and scourges are now a group of animals rather than an adjective for worm bosses
he called desert scourge desert scourge and he called that one desert scourge resprite aquatic scourge and at that point it was a trend
u will be called a scourge because I'm about to stretch u into a worm
wasnt scourge of the universe made before aquatic scourge?
you are no match for my ethereal power
your corporeal form will be contorted and shredded into a fine mince
When waa even AS
wat
was it always called the devourer of gods?
did it have another name or smth?
scourge of the universe is just the name of the song becasue it sounds cool
I read a bit of the lore but does it ever say why yharim became depressed and reclusive? Like a specific incident during the crusade that made him throw in the towel
i doubt dokuro even thought of desert scourge
@wanton pendant say yo yharim fought the sun theory
Because he is nearing his deathbed (~120 year old osmething man) and is afraid he dosen't have enough time to finish his mission of Killing All Gods, specially with his several misconducts of his relationships with his allies, leading to his army basically falling apart
Also that truer
he's been up in the Aerie training for any slim hope of achieving his goals but he dosen't seem convinced he'll be able to do it - His best bet is you (
)
Ah thank you thank you
This cna be seen through the (Admittedly, futurely to be implemented in a more cohesive and well-integrated way) lore whispers, which while at first was just yharim observing you out of passing curiosity and boredom, he starts to gradually take a role of a more active manipulator and tries nudging you into his path because he notices how powerful you are and wants to try making you into his sucessor
I read xeroc said "strong enough to make me doubt my own power" when talking about yharim but on reddit posts everyone was saying yharim doesn't hold a candle to him so what's up with that?
Yharim is stronger then xeroc was before he ascended
Its probably that if yharim took a different route xeroc could have actually died to yharim maybe
would silva be constantly dying forever if yharim was smart enough to make an auric jail
Xeroc is still far stronger than Yharim but keep in mind, Xeroc is a god with the soul of the strongest auric dragon who has been training for probably nearly thousands of years
Yharim achieved a power level to the degree he has without an auric soul and within ~100 years
Is he still weaker than Xeroc? Yeah, absolutely, but the doubt here comes from the fact a mortal was able to achieve such insane highs of strenght in far less time than Xeroc has
Okay that makes alot of sense
I don't remember does yharim fight because he wants freedom of choice for mortals or because yharom saved him and he wants to avenge the dragons?
Many mortals do have freedom not all gods are oppressive to people or rule over anything
Yeah yharim wants to avenge the dragons but ignores the possible nuance on if the dragon deserves it or consented to the ascension and so has caused far more harm to the world
Something something Yharim actually found Xeroc, tried to fight him and got slapped into next week.
But that's just a theory.
Thank you melon gun and Cresent cheese for the help ❤️
One thing i dont get about yharim lovers
is that they keep saying they're fine to live under his rule
even though said rule is authoritarian
literally big brother lol
Well you see, if you're anti-Yharim, he has a method to convince you.
That method is that he kills those who side with the gods.
And even if you dont side with him he doesn't care if he has to use you to extract resources or as collateral
Literally vaporized an entire civilization
He also had propaganda.
Early in the crusade he did give more care to the people who sided with him (the hallowed mechs are consensually made iirc)
And he treated his actual soldiers well and paid them good
-# also had tech a few centuries more advanced then anyone else thanks to draedon
Tho yeah in the tail end polter happened due to him stop caring for anything but stabbing gods
Living under yharim would be good (If you support him)
^
No property taxes either
no
Just dont save the tax collector and you already do
pay a rent sum of 2$
per month
then another 50$ for maintenance
for each occupant
It'd be foolish of a charismatic leader to not give those that support him comfort and quality of life, as doing so is just making the trust of his men and supporters on him stronger and further convinces people to join him
With that said however if you were against his ideology or just generally was someone the yharmy would've had reason to suspect distrust your life would probably not be As Good and it'd feel very opressive at best
mandatory military enlistment
and government control over every sector
privatized sectors are dissolved
and everyone is monitored
Am i worse than yharim? probably
i have aura tho
i'm gonna monitor everyone and have the government control every sector
however
therell be taco tuesdays
everyone gets free taco every tuesday
Also everyone has to work in this building
called
L corp
for uuh
electricity


It's just business.
Lord Business.
Xeroc vs my max employee with apoc gear
yharim shouldve implemented a taco tuesday system on his controlled cities
literally everyone would side with him
fuck those gods 🔥 🔥
Cheese yur the expert in pm
Which is just even worse, since supporting Yharim's rule is a form of evil of its own
yeah but
you'll probably get free healthcare
and citizenship benefits
like public programs
Not if you oppose Yharim
And those who support him are supportive of evil, so they certainly don't deserve to be rewarded with any of that nice stuff
I think it goes without saying that supporting super ultra gold hitler is probably bad
reminds me i still need to beat the atzliuth suppressions
also there's
there's your lore chat h man mention
its been a while so i figured i had to set things right yk
Now I'm wondering: how many people in the current year (after Yharim's crusade) still support his rule, and how many still worship what's left of the gods? Roughly speaking
Worship torch god
well the tax collector & the remnants of his army are still pro-yharim
Okay, so are most of the survivors and their descendants too focused on trying to survive than on which wartime faction they prefer?
Probably a good few for both parties
It's a big world out there
With Yharim's army kinda falling apart they'd defintiely be like
far less prevalent
But there'd totally still be like
Is lebron real in the calamity verse
Independent groups even trying to still follow in his footsteps
Up to YOU
Is the terrarian lebron?
probably
im lebron so yea
Maybe I don't need to kill the rest of the world's population, then, to avenge the gods 
I think I maded the thing
👁️
Is noxus canon to base calamity?
yes
Noxus is a base calamity character, "Noxus" (wotg, assuming that's where you first heard the character from) has long since been replaced by Avatar of Emptiness whic his a fully separate character with no ties to Calamity's lore
The old version of the boss was loosely based off a much earlier interpretation of Noxus before the lore got rewritten but that's as far as the connection went
Noxus is not ingame atm in calamity but if it gets added it'll be one of the two post-yharim superbosses
I read he was created by cthulu and helped the "dark lord" idk much about wotg but I'm sure that's totally not canon stuff
Yeah i'm pretty sure that's fandom wiki lore 😭
That applies neither to canon calamity's noxus nor avatar of emptiness from wotg
Okay thank you 😭
Do we have any good lore about moonlord then in calamity? All I know is he came from outer space
Currently not much
Fandom wiki is the best wiki
Beyond the fact he's a really fucking strong guy that just came out of nowhere one day and decided to throw hands with everyone
We'll learn more later though
notably SSO will have some new ML lore
I hope they add more lore about outer space and the distortion 😍
He's basically the reason for most of the story happening right?
Indirectly basically yeah
His attack on the auric dragons kickstarts everything in a way
Then a certain monk decides to betray that dragon(forgot it's name)
Xeroc, though whether it really was a betrayal is a strong topic of debate
The dragons name I forgot
Zeratros let it happen? Or maybe died on his own and that's how xeroc got his soul?
The only person who tells us Xeroc did it in malice is Yharim, who wasn't there and who is notably biased against gods
The actual circumstances of what happened are unknown to basically everyone even now, all that definitely happened is that Zeratros died and Xeroc absorbed his auric soul
With taht said, however
We do know that Moon Lord seemingly had an ability to permanently kill the dragons
Usually they'd be rebirthed by Yharon
But given that ML evidently culled a significant amount of their population
Something that'd otherwise be
impossible
Then it means it likely had some sort of power that let it actually kill them For Real
and, with that in mind
And considering how the text talks about how Zeratros was on his deathbed after the fight
Picture the situation Xeroc was in at this moment
- Fovos showed up with no warning, out of completely nowhere, almost destroyed the entire world and single handedly cut down the number of the previously thought to be undefeatable dragons by god knows how many
- Zeratros, the strongest dragon, with the domain of primordial light, s till only managed to barely survive and with his power they were only narrowly able to achieve somewhat of a victory
- T here was literally no warning for this. They had no way of knowing if it'd ever happen again, but it could.Who's to guarantee Fovos 2 won't just randomly happen one day?
- What the hell would they do if this happened again and they didn't have access to the literal strongest auric domain?
With all of that in mind i like to think Xeroc's ascencion was very much not just him being power hungry, specially when you read his few bits of ingame dialogue
If I was yharim I would've wanted to get revenge on ML too bro just left him ofc he was sealed in the moon but still
If he was just a power hungry maniac, he has the power to just
Wipe out most factions in the game
Yet he dosen't
I think Xeroc ascended because he knew Zeratros was on his deathbed, and in fear of a situation happening like this again, whether consensual or not, did what he thought was the right thing to do
And absorbed his soul so they'd have a fighting chance
And in a way he was right
Noxus exists
Noxus is the Moon Lord 2
How was noxus created do we know?
Damn
Dunno if it really even was "created" as much as it's just a thing that exists in the distortion
THe ottal information we have on it is uhh
Trying to make sense of abilities in this lore is crazy what do you mean something called "primordial light" could be defeated what kind of ability counters that 😭
- Probably is DoG's superior
- Is likely using DoG to absorb divine essence for whatever reason
- Seems ot control some sort of hivemind in the Distortion
- Is the third strongest character in the entire mod's mythos (Not counting You), falling only behind prime ML and Xeroc respectively
- Seemingly has the highest destructive potential of any of the characters in the entire mod however, and if it were to go through with whatever plans it has and nobody stopped it hte world would probably be fucked in some way
Primordial light can be seen as basically just comically powerful mana that comes directly from the sun
It's worth noting that using primordial light isn't exclusive to Xeroc but using it to the degree he does is, i mean
He can literally
Just fucking make whole ass bosses out of it
He literally has the power to create Yharim out of thin air 😭
I'm just gonna assume everything is a conduit of mana and for whatever reason souls and mana can interact with each other
termitus
Like whatever powers moonlord had is also through the use of mana and not just he has a whole other power system from space 💀
One more thing: that hivemind might exist in the Distortion, but it's not the entire Distortion. There are entities, such as Signus, that exist outside the hivemind that Noxus controls
a whole lotta shit has to do with mana yes
Yharim is actually out of doorder
Object-oriented... drogramming?
POTENTIAL...
eats you
Yharmjak 
potential entity
0 feats 0 character 700 contributor statements
Same thing with Xeroc
How exactly did the lunatic cultist prevent fovos from leaving the moon for so long?
Dont eat pencils
Upkept the seal the dragons put on ml iirc
Are seals gonna be explained in a future update?
I think the base concept is easy to get
Magic spell that stop you from accessing it or it from leaving
I'd assume the seal is on Fovos, and not the moon.
Well yeah
Unless... the moon being haunted is far more haunted than we thought.
alr idk what I was doing with this actually
That sounds spooky
I'd imagine a primordial light creature would be glowing but this is an interesting design too
Rainworld vibes idk why
Yeah
echoes
Ah yeah those
First thought wow those drawings are amazing
DAMN
@manic coral
This is what my guide is supposed to be doing
instead he bookrots inside the library i made for him
Holy fuck
But seriously fire artwork
Yeha this is absolutely FIRE
Yeah I'm curious to know too
Ngl to think without context the codebreaker journal entry looks like that one "My co worker is losing his mind" meme
Also, yeah, I saw a ping from you and was about to make fun of you and call you smelly or go "who dares to summon me" or some shit but
Yeah no this is fucking awesome
You get a pass this time
Ngl
Should i ping stip and kanaya so they can see peak
@split mortar
i would easily download something like this as a mod
each entry being its own artwork
Anyways, I don't have TOO much to comment onright now since I'm making food aside from just
God damn
This is awesome
@cosmic zenith @spare pier check this shit out
@spare pier @cosmic zenith Hey you guys should take a look at this
@cosmic zenith @spare pier
Dhsidbdjd
LMAO????????????
SOB
LMAO
The mass ping is worth it
TRUE!
What The Fuck
Get tri pinged
The horde
kanaya you are forced to look at this
beautiful. someone make a mod to implement this please.
like genuinely. just beautiful.
yeah im thinking of like something of a prog list
each enemy you encounter or item of value
That Goes Unfathomably Nuclear
im struggling to comprehend how someone could be this dedicated
People no hit this mod man
on deathmode
infernum even
Master deathmode gfb
Yeah no your art is AMAZING
i would love to see any of the newer designs in this
i heard theres 2 bosses in this mod that gets so many re sprites
True this person would cook with the newer designs i look forward to seeing their stuff in the future
this is a lie
@cloud ibex look at ts
fire react even
@pliant ruin look at this shit
Cheese didnt react to it
Omg, this is awesome!!
@wheat walrus Look
no she wasnt i said so
This implies that every lorists here has a bait power
@young socket look at this
@real silo you even
What?
cool art
yea im looking
@long bloom
the looker

@warm gull you as well even
this is actual peak
Damn.
awesome work
melongun summoning everyone
Oggjhjj that's amazing
well this is upsetting, i didnt get summoned
Fear of getting nuked by a mod had me stop
@spring helm
@mighty zenith
@split mortar hey take a look at this
Its peak
Ok
just
oki
Send it to people ig
holy shit
ANYWAYS
evil tsuki
i will comment further once my food is done
also yeah i saaw it its cool ass art
I had seen it in genmedia already whic is why i didnt say much
im currently working my machinations for evil roy programming plans (the mines)
not gonna work on it rn tho bc ill prob stream soon (waiting for cleaning lady to b done first)
ngl an in-universe journal would be absolutely fire merch
I shall crush thy bones
wanderers journal hollow knight
it's true
Hi!
yes like that
Ok but cool art look
hire this girl to do an official journal
HOLY SHIT!
fnaf survival logbook
O did i get you at a bad time sorry
i could do something really funny here
also thats like the coolest potrayal of current calclone i've ever seen
do the funny
It would be funny
👀
Do it
ah

🔥
i was thinking of pinning it too
From orios
oh right he made a new one
Coloured ver
dear god PLEASE
sure why not
that would require actually making discord good
perfect
😭
so we know that's not happening
A
Whuh
fair enough
lul
great trifecta of the 3 first pinned messages anyone looks at in this channel
ah yes
Well you get the long version of the lore, and then the short version.
the 3 lore docs
melon gun's compressed repost of my art got pinned intsead of my message with my art 

Hehehehe
@ mods please credit original artists
oops
can u link the og?
.
can we kill melon gun now
What why
im bored
to the paper shredder with you

i concur
agree
Ooh are you the same person that made the vanilla terraria journal?
thank you so much!
thank you!!
no, just inspired
I'll do a full flip through on my channel once I finish the index
over 460 terms
my goal for it was to get the devs' attention so I am so happy rn
yall lmk if there's anything from the mod you guys wanna see in particular
Fan creations that reach this level of quality typically get dev attention
Also I'd like to see Yharon, or anything dragon related really if it's not a problem
This is also the typa stuff stip would adore
gotchu
Sadly yharon has a not public resprite 
Heya
Theres nothing proving they exist but theres a few ways it would be possible (same curse as zoologist) or just a sapient race or species we havent seen
Yea but I was referring to the journal
the page is sending
Yeah same
The journel would have to use outdated sprite or resprite
doodoo wifi
Rip
that's what I used as reference
True its peak still
this is amazing
Wow what the fuck
It's just... so peak
Yharon looks feral that pic, which would be fitting for when he fights you
im redrawing some enemies that I don't like the original drawings for
rimehounds specifically
it would be so awesome
another page I might redraw. once im done with lunch I'll send the pic
:D
I love aureus 
Did you hear about the potential change in the future where you'll see an uncorrupted aureus walking around in early hardmode?
oooo that's cool asf
it'll also get inverse kinematics eventually
so its gonna look like a rain world enemy
✅
noxus
my goat
can we get xeroc too (even if he only shows up in the boss rush)
@mighty zenith
still fire af
Woooaaaaaahhh
Does yharim pay taxes?
Xeroc
Oh wait i can do that too
why would he pay xeroc anything
Because he got his ass beat
They are divorce lovers
Yharim and xeroc were lovers until draedon comes in and stole yharim
Is that cannon
no




