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my reaction to this is "jesse what the fuck ar eyou talking about"
the first is blatantly not true, the second is also just not how that works, adn the third has
nothing

Ah
people still say this but i don't get how, especially considering it kinda doesn't have anything
to really, like
determine that off of
aside from i guess the stopwatch
which does show your speed
but the maximum speed you can reach is realistically consistently reach like somewhere around 130mph iirc?
like, yeah
fast
but not whatever some people are talking about

but yeah to elaborate on them
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literally none of us have said that. WHAT beings that threaten to destroy reality itself? those doesnt exist within the setting. also, the devourer can't do that.
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this is assumign rela life absed cosmology which calamity definitly does not have. also, the devoruer can't do that. i don't know where people get him ripping through time and space from, he just opens portals to and from the distortion. not from whatever this is saying. also, you cna literally measure the speed in-game because stopwatch, he goes about, what for a max speed? 200? 300? miles per hour
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i mean, yeah, the devourer can stand up to very strong people who are basically on their own walking nuclear bombs. see: calamitas. but like. what.
tired but alright
understandable same
also frankly i think it's entirely based on vibes
there's like, no lore for terraria that really indicates anything like that as you said
its just. moon guy shows up. dryad sells him. go kill it now
SEAL* not sell
they did not sell moon lord for 3.99
like nowhere in the game does it say the terrarian is glupversal or anything you just kill a big squid guy
and theres no like statements or anything that state said big squid guy is any stronger than calamitys big squid guy
the only vibes i get are about the same as roughly what calamity is
i mean there are some cool and certainyl very strong things but you
you can never see the actual damage anything does
or how much of a genuine threat anything is
the best reference you have is a stopwatch

like, if we're basing off of purely vibes from gameplay, then i'd argue it's relatively more on the grounded side all things considered
I mean if we go on vibes endgame summoner is universal teir
19 dollar moon lord card
all of this is wrong
basically all powerscalers make the mistake of equating cosmologies to real life
when they are almost always smaller even if they say they aren't
if not smaller then incomparable
powerscalers try to understand a work of fiction’s world building (99.999999999999% failure rate)
ok sooo
- the devourer of gods cannot rip through space and time, only creating portals for the Distortion
- “defeated beings who threatened to destroy reality” what beings???
- “able to fight a being who travels to stars across the entire universe” that doesn’t really equate to the Terrarian’s speed though (does the devourer of gods even do that?)
the only part that kinda makes sense here is the durability section
this image is so inaccurate and nonsensical that it’s just funny
I think point three refers to deus which like

Wall of flesh vs 5 corrupted mimics
Wof wins cause the mimics die to falling behind the wall and taking fuck you levels of damage
that still doesnt mean anything because the creator of this image added that thinking those "high-tier" characters are universal+ or whatever
Garbo I need to ask you something
Yo
Nuh uh go away 😠
gar
Garbo is it okay to post yharon resprite lore in reddit
If yes, then you you guys must look at comments for a while because of leaked dia yharon resprite
what
the progression of his resprites?
ye
yeah as long as it doesnt use the leaked sprite
leaked sprite? i feel like i woulda seen that
dont worry about it
i see everything
you literally should never say this to me im gonna be overly intrigued
just know a guy
my pumnkin ;(
despite people leaking the yharon resprite like on the weekly it feels like i feel like nobody has ever actually seen it 😭
oh this is why
i feel like who caressss
omg guys i saw the sprite
so sugoi
wowie
im so special
eating an apple is more interesting
the issue is that ive seen like three that could be considered “leaks”
well thats unfortunate, youre not seeing it 
dude ive seen like five “leaked!!!1! one” resprites i dont know which are real and which arent
thats good i think
its bad bc i dont have a consistency and i hate not knowing information that i could infact know
I think the Calamity Devs should release 500 false resprites in order to conceal the real one.
like if the truth is already out there, just make it incomprehensibly hard to find
that would require an insane amount of effort i think
everything does if you think about it
Lorr
Fuck off sleep
Today I went outside and saw a Calamity happening, so I thought that this MUST be the work of that dastardly Brimstone Witch. So I went to the Sunken Sea, which had not yet been Overhauled, and I recruited the help of Amidias. But it turned out that I was actually the Terrarian and that I could be whoever I wanted, so I became god for no reason lol.
good message
my mind is melting
So we are calling her dastardly while having her gamer tag
Ironic
Is Yharim's smile stitched? (I just saw the animation thing with Yharim and the gang 😭)
We've never seen Yharim's face
we will never (officially) see yharim's face
Yharim is gay
unironically you decide the unmasked appearance of Yharim
i feel like you're trying to get bingo on purpose at this point
the Godseeker's Face is up to YOU
Honestly no
I just sometimes decide for the next while ill say something constantly
Used to drive people insane in school by saying melon a lot
I know 100% that the Godseeker doesnt look like me
The one on tiktok that goes like "(name) is your smile stitched?"
Nope you're thesusgodseeker now

Whuh
melon gun is melon gun regardless
I'd love to send the tiktok but this server doesn't allow links 💔
what is it even supposed to mean, is it literal or....?
Uhhh it's hard for me explain
yharim is charred enough that he cant smile for shit
how burnt he is is completely unknown so he might not have enough face to even be able to smile
incomprehensible
so a "stitched smile" is pretending to be fine?
Y'all over here thinking the terrarian is some guy who woke up and chose to become a deity, meanwhile me, an intellectual, knows that the terrarian is
don't make me tap the sign
_ _
😭

"The terrarian's lore is NOT up to you" - evil melongun

the terrarian si everything
its probably in a dubious canon state right now, since it implies that your terrarian independable of the story you made (you could be an surviving ilmerian wanting revenge..) have enough of a good heart to spare calamitas
the god of dogma was right
in the future you won't need to house her in if you don't want to
she'll still survive the fight regardless though
^
Just get the flymeal smh
Oh wait really wtf
yeah all the named characters just have that message
Cringe
because, yk, theyre actual characters, itd be weird for them to fucking die and then come back 😭
Fucking kills you
permafrost lich theory starts today
ggg likes calclone theory
horrible
what?
like with the vanilla npcs even if theyre like clearly the same exact fucking person they atleast have the excuse of having different names
ggg kissed calclone theory (USER WAS BANNED FOR THIS POST)
Theres many wall of fleshes and many guides who miss their wife and will be back
What
🔬
gggs relationship with calclone does not seem to be one of romantic interest as much as it seems like the platonic ideal of someone who has a blorbo they enjoy throwing around after dipping in milk
^
I was not implying romantic
the sun god
I would never dip her in milk thats fucked up
what im not xeroc man
glorious fusion sphere
hilarious message
Xeroc, God of Among us
true!
Dogma, god of dogma deez nuts jokes
wrong
👎
kills you for misinfo
damn i couldve swore they had the left message
Kil calamitas
or is it just amidias fsr
kill tsuki because i feel like it :/
summons sir nautilus, gorthus the blademaster, and bereft vassal to your location
amidias canonically dies
fiiiine ill check the other 2
never forget yhorm
youll see

goddamnit
permafrost lich theory proven true once again...
ggg will be used as a fuel source
scoog will be turned into planty mush
o btw cal also dies
to be fair i'd also be racist to clams if they started stealing the souls of my dead subjects and harming the ecosystem via overpopulation and then a fatass clam stole my soul
chuddiest young fish fella in ilmeris award
youre not yharim
One stole his soul and the rest are overpopulating and destroying the Sunken Sea ecosystem.
that oughta do it
I didn't make the image tbh i was searching for the "the terrarians lore is up to YOU!" picture and found that
Why was this drawn
i don't think he asked directly he just said it would be funny and then permitted for it to be shared in here
he specifically requested orios do it iirc
hi, i am not sorry for what i've created
it peaks
Its the only known thing of amidias redesign as well iirc
I keep forgetting that they're taking oldmidas out back & killing him
redesign is based on seahorses right?
@split mortar i know you've shown me it before
redesigned is based on a seahorse because hes... always been a seahorse
Im walking back from college dont expect the smartest of thoughts from me
he resembled more generic fish than any specific species to me
he didnt exactly embody much
did you atleast look at his concept art
and its been said hes a seahorse too because i KNOW you talk here
I mean his og design
The new one must definetly looks like a seahorse
eh ill just study you
technically its more seadragon than seahorse
make amidias a draconic offshoot
it was simply a comment on how i read the design ignoring the fact that yeah, he is a seahorse
Question is the eye of Cthulhu and the evil biome bosses made by gods?
indirectly
after beating the eye it says they cull them in equal measure
they didn't really "make" them, but both biomes are comprised of a lot of dead gods
so are most of the bosses in-game like queen bee for example made by gods? as monstrosities
no
oh alr
the only bosses that can be considered to be "made by" gods are eater of worlds / brain of cthulhu, and the profaned guardians
I've heard the corruption biomes in the mod we're due to dead gods yet the mod still allows the use of purification powder or liquid
is that uncanon
Purification powder very well may have god origin as well
The 'powder' is actually just microbes that eat flesh.
By the way, don't get ANY of it on your skin.
Source: Dude, trust me.
This person is not knowledgeable on lore dont
Oh ok nvm makde it clear it a joke
Yeah.
with a large ass construction site
But then he'd lose his propaganda piece.
using draedons tech
Yeah or use draedon to make the solution
Yet its still there
Ive also read they consumed the souls of dragons to become gods, if i were to guess as a lore newbie it'd has to do with the perversion of the natural rebirth
sort of a pseudo immortality
Consuming a auric dragons soul does stop them from being reborn
The gods dont get rebirth tho
Isn't their essence basically just them reforming
God Essence is their soul having shattered like a undertale monster soul
Dragon souls stay in a single piece
Also the dragons dont rebirth by themselves they need yharon
It's trying to.
Not very well.
To continue the Undertale comparison, they're like the Amalgamates.
why specifically yharon?
Has the domain of rebirth
dragon of rebirth
Yharon has the ability to ressurect Auric Dragons, including himself.
only if their auric souls aren't absorbed however
Yeah mentioned that earlier
Oh i get the context for the yharon agendas are now a bit
Yharon agenda?
Yharon would also perma die if the soul was consumed
pretty useless ability
Cool ragebait
They lasted many times longer then they normally would have
okayy but now its useless
Its kept yharon alive
yea dude if i was the immortal last human id be so happy
does yharon have a drinking problem
🤷
He already sealed away most of the evil biome inside WoF as is
given that the entirety of the hallow was sealaed away while corruption/crimson was kept ot a small extent its all but confirmed this is intentional
as others have said
good propaganda
EoC
Eye of Chtulhu also is a god essence byproduct it's just not directly tied to either of the evil biomes
right, whoops
Why profaned guardians wha
They weren't directly created by it but i mean
I can see the argument
They were just regular humans before and their current state is due to providence granting htem part of her power
Though on that note primordial wyrm would fall under a similar boat
braelor 
he aint a boss
neither is pw
It is.
random thought
not officially
Well They Obviously Were Still Strong
But Yeah
Nothing Special About Them
y'all think scal's expertise in necromancy would've made her a natural ally to yharon if she was alive in the draconic era?
yeah they were like def capable warriors
killed a seemingly very strong dragon and all
Probalby the opposite i reckon
imo not really since scal has necromancy which is imperfect
calamity necromancy is fucking garbage
I don't see why Yharon would have anything but negative feelings towards necromancy seeing as it is a perversion of that which his entire Life Purpose is
unlike yharon's auric soul of rebirth which can truly bring the other auric dragons back to life
Third Coolest Fight In The Entire Story BTW
I imagine at most she would just be seen as nothing special and just someone trying to mimic the dragons
I think in the current times yharon probably tolerates it due to its utility and how widespread it has become
No it would be pretty hot
Fire dragon and allat
die
but iirc in the draconic age it was a very experimental type of magic and was mostly unknown
eats u
Kills Melon Gun
Like Yharon is clearly an extremely proud figure
ANd he took his position in dragon society very seriously
Wtf did i do
Necromancy would probably just feel like a mockery of everything he is
You know what you did.
Again i think he just, tolerates it nowadays
He still dosen't like it, but he tolerates it due to, again, its power, utility, and the fact he can't do much about it due to how widespread it has become
Made a dumb joke nothin specil
You Made A Melon Joke

?????
the gallows ...
what a blunder
TO TH3 G4LLOWS W1TH Y3
why did my brain turn gallows into gully...
a what.
im too sunken sea overhaul rotted
Wrong one
Ha Ha
stupid melon
I know that happens
I di not care
exiled
the writer
is the cult that made ravager at all related to the cult that made golem
golem was created by the lihzahrds who apparently used to worship an unspecified god who made golem as a replacement, the cult that resurrected the god of sacrifices into the ravager was a specific sect of the god of sacrifices followers that had a warped interpretation of who he was and what he did
no
arright
or at least it would be astronomically unlikely
were they located anywhere specific or did they just exist somewhere
theyre related by worshipping gods and making temples 
the god of sacrifices cult was near the brimstone crags
oh fun
yeah like
everyone did that
except azafurians
and me
wildly oversimplified
true
what is
azafure extremely likely wasnt the only group that didnt worship gods i feel like that its a stretch to claim that azafure out of the entire planet were the only outliers during the deific era
yeah but we don't know about anything outside the heartlands
and god worshipping was the default for at least half of society
reading back on mango's message that came with GoS' design and its interesting to me that brimstone is described as being related to the afterlife
"Make ties to brimstone (afterlife) by current ravager having brim-petals on the antlers when he is revived (these are the souls of his cultists that were absorbed into him)"
oh yeah i never really thought about that
i read it as "brimstone afterlife" before months ago and completely missed the parentheses lmao
but it does suggest some things about the brimstone crags and magic
if brimstone is related to the afterlife and calamitas is proficient in both brimstone (definitely related to brimmy reawakening) and necromancy (likely also related to brimmy reawakening since we know she had it atleast when the destruction of azafure was going on since soul slurpers are a prototype of soul seekers iirc
then i can see a clearer connection between the two as before they seemed a bit unrelated as we only really knew brimstone for brimstone fire/magic and being a (rock? mineral?)
whereas necromancy is a botched version of resurrection
how did the crags form? if its related to revival did silva's influence from the abyss bringing life to the area have anything to do with? this also puts into question brimmy as while yes shes the main incarnation of the heat elemental, shes specifically brimstone, with ties to azafure as their matron
yknow how we call life warm n stuff
n brimmys the heat elemental
idk how to explain this well rlly
but wat im getting at is brimmy has slight life powers due to that, maybe not perfect life powers, which is why its necromancy specifically
a connection with the afterlife may explain some other things, rebirth can come after the afterlife, and is often connected with fire, yharon is the dragon of rebirth and yet he breathes fire and can control it. the crags are in hell after all, which is literally a massive underground cavern of magma, possibly being the reason why brimstone is connected and found in it
tbh this just makes me question wat an afterlife is
cuz a dragon of rebirth kinda implies that the cycle of life in terraria has at least some inhabitants rebirthing
funny how current rav's design also has a lot of fire in it
(not counting the dragons cuz they only started rebirthing after they obtained the auric souls, and the domains only exist cuz they were things that exist on terraria)
vanillin can u send rav design i wanna check smthn
that also connects to how all other elements (elementals) need to exist b4 life can
tanks
ok so unless the designs changing again the fire stuff from rav seem to be entirely gone but who knows
you also kinda need heat to move at all or else youd be frozen forever
also the brimmy + afterlife = rebirth n stuff could also tie in to why scal is so good at necromancy of all magics
her connection to brimmy is wats making it good
yeah
cuz like
im sorry but i simply do not believe that perma would teach scal necromancy
nor would she pursue it while in hiding
heat is also needed for metal to be forged and molded, which can be compared to rebirth if youre repairing an tool/weapon or turning it into something completely different but thats more of a stretch compared to my previous points
also wait
yea no necromancy is totally related to brimstone
scal had necromancy powers during the brimmy clash
(soul slurpers are proto soul seekers, which are necromancy)
yeah i said this earlier too
o i didnt see
she had it at the same time as her brimstone powers
which means theyre a packaged deal
heer
i wonder if theres other people walking around terraria with scals weird ability
like imagine living life one day and u come into contact with anahita and now u have sick water and ice powers
Honestly brimstone might literally just be burning souls
and we also know that all of the mages found in the dungeon are dead azafurians
would explain the whispering maelstrom
yea but being able to burn it doesnt explain how it gives u to control the souls
wait.
control the souls? isnt that like
whispering maelstrom inflicts vuln hex (i think) which i think one of the writers suggested was a mix of brimstone magic and necromancy
a thing only scal does,,,,
That would imply only scal knows necromancy, wich is possible, but I think rather unlikely
do we know of any other manmade necromancy that uses souls?
Well, isn't necromancy literally just that? Controlling dead souls to do your bidding?
we know she at the minimum knows brimstone, necromancy, and ice magic
and knowing that she was permafrost's main student and adopted child i find it rather unlikely she doesnt know more
Twasnt my point but yeah i agree
yeah it explains why msot necromancy constructs are well uhm... gulp... bones
(Necromancy isn't just that, bones simply facilitate it)
ic ic
Are souls involved?
(And controlling bones is the easiest form of it)
is it wrong that i expect ravager to move kinda like a chimpanzee
There's no formal agreement between writers on the details of necromancy
like dudes gonna climb the walls them luchador you
But I personally would assume some types of Necromancy involve souls, while others don't
yeah that makes sense
Perhaps her brimstone flames aren't seperate from necromancy, and instead moreso an extension of it? In the sense that instead of using a soul to create a construct, she pumps it so full of mana it bursts into flame? I dunno
Is ravager a chimpanze
no its a fleshy gorilla monstrosity
lore discussion? in my lore discussion? its more likely than you think
How do we have so much lore but absolutely nothing on how magic works aside from Necromancy not being very effective?
I feel theres probably some permafrost dialogue but not bothered to find that rn
its magic
Perma dialogue that was shown by devs
Not ingame
its because the lore we have rn is mainly the main story, some extra context, and a little bit of worldbuilding
when do we get permafrost's sad backstory
he's not really sad he's just old
It baffles me how the slime god killed the dragon of gluttony
to gain its power yet is dogwalked in pre hardmode
the gluttony dragon was weaker, evidently
Yeah man did all that
also do note that sg is purposefully handicapping itself
it could have become stronger, but it chose not to
gained a arguably stupid ass form (who wants to be slime??)
it did escape in my fight
idk what happens next im still grinding to have a smooth time in hardmode
💔
so im making a game (not an ad) thats like dnd but with my bull shit
say you can fight a jojos boss or something
I just added Yharon and did a full lore type out but idk if its too long to send
im just kinda asking for permission to send about 3 paragraphs
Why is it permanently gone?
No its uh
Lore spoiler for the refight ||queen slime, its just a fix to explain a vanilla boss not anything worth considering||
I have done more then that on multiple occasions
k its a lot so have fun
The dragon of rebirth itself…
The last thing Yharon remembered before coming here was death…
He had been defeated and was actively dying…
He lost consciousness and woke up here in a never ending field of green
He noticed he felt weak
Almost like he was out of mana
Usually he’d be able to fly but his wings were tattered and broken so he couldn’t fly.
He spent a couple months regaining his strength and trying to call out to his ally’s…
None came
It was as if he wasn’t even in the same dimension anymore…
After a while his wings were close to healing when a caravan encountered him…
After they met he struck a deal with them.
One of them would use a spell on him that would change his size to about the size of a parrot if he protected them on there journey through the tower.
They proceeded to become ally’s for around 6 months.
When one day they decided to go to a higher tier than they were ready for
Yharon could hold his own but, he couldn’t protect everyone at once
Once they made it deeper into the tower while they were resting all of the members of his party were assassinated
Yharon was asleep and didn’t see who did it…
The didn’t kill him since he was only the size of a parrot.
After the shrink spell wore off he started to grow to his normal size…
That’s when the tower took notice and designated him as a boss and gave him is own chamber that he could fly around it
Along with food, water, and the occasional adventurer to challenge him.
With no way to shrink down and get out of the tower again he was trapped…
Once defeated you can kill him and get his drops or, if you have a shrink spell you can have him join the party
He will be loyal to whomever uses the spell
Bit late at night for me to tell if this fully good to yharons character but this does seem pretty cool
im not 100% on a lot of the lore tbh
but im able to change stuff and this is just a rough draft
i had to do this amount of lore dump for hatsune miku too 😭
my friends voted for me to do it
Oh lol
yeah slime god is canonically THE gender fluid
they contain multitudes, including pronouns
Is the base protagonist like powerful
y y y-y yo -y YOU!!!! you get to decide who or what the terrarian is
since it doesnt exactly make sense to have definitive character lore if the player can just make their own at the start of the game and possibly contradict like half of it, problems with terraria being a sandbox and all
The terrarian is a blank slate character so you can have whatever lore for them you want.
^
I am drawing but i wanted to make him Chunky of muscles and that stuff but idk if it should be good
he can be the buffest man in the multiverse or he can be skin and bones
whichever one you prefer
All canon 
what about just dude
like guy who looks like he work at walmart
yes
Next time i go to Walmart i Will ask if he once killed a crab with fungus infection
Everything is canon, the Terrarian can be whoever you want them to be
lore discussion immediately subsumed by the terrarian
siiva goddess of rips
lore discussion is the terrarian
no
no gif 🙁

Like sans?
wouldn't taste good most likely
it's a husk of a crab, no meat, infected with glowing mushrooms, which are implied to be hallucinogenic and are only consumable when used in potions, and even then it makes you sick
How badly will the lore change when xeroc and the yharim come to calamity (that is if they are)
no big lore changes
Not at all
The reasons already exist
We just don't know them
We will just find out things that were true all along but we didn't know
Ohhh ok
I mean the mod's entire plot is the reason yharim is here
Also do yk if anything with the auric dragons after killing xerox?
Everything ingame that happens or has already happened is already building upto him
No
We won't kill xeroc
All the auric dragons are dead already
And the auric dragons are extinct, there is no way to bring them back
Except yharon
Yharon is the only survivor and it'll forever remain as that, unless he too eventually dies
?
His boss fight will not end with him dying
He'll live
It'll be more of a amiable sparring session than anything
We might fight xeroc but as like, practice. We're incapable of killing him
He's too strong
Not only will the fight itself not be set up as a fight to the death between the two characters as much as it's just a friendly duel but Xeroc is also too damn strong to really be killed
So its just another draedon fight?
I guess...? But not really
Other than the fact the characters in question don't die there's no similarities
Same logic could say it's another Calamitas fight ig
Arent they both tests of strength?
Yeah but the circumstances are pretty different
Ahh
unmatched power of the sun
no
which 3
I hate that god damn fight
There's no narrative reason for it to happen in 2/3 of those cases and in another 2/3 its basically impossible
oh yeah you can't kill him
that'd be like trying to destroy the entire internet
too many backups in too many locations
Fair point😭
Not to mention Calamitas locks a whole npc with unique mechanics behind her defeat
It'll be better later
Every bossfight is being reworked if not remade from scratch becasue generally speaking they, uh. suck
Dog..
Few exceptions that don't but they're still being reworked to be Better regardless
horse annihilated
Also i saw something and i wanted to get this clarified
Is the nameless deity xeroc? Just unofficially?
no
no
Yeah obv
nameless deity is a separate fanamde character that has nothing to do with calamity's lore
wotg isn't even gonna be a calamity addon anymore in future updates
Bro then wtf was this mf rambling on abt😭😭
dumb shit
you'd be shocked the amount of people that don't know this
dont trust everything you see on the internet
No, nameless deity is based on old lore xeroc but they're not the same and nameless deity is from an addon so they don't really matter.
specially if it comes from a video on youtube that clearly does not have any actual effort put into fact checking
or even worse, a short
YouTubers pretend it is for views but YouTubers are liars
they used to be xeroc in the lore but that was reconned
becasue god knows how many shitty calamity lore youtube videos and shorts there are
Just like how (wotg) Noxus didn't matter even though they were based on a calamity thing cause they were from an addon.
It's based loosely on a concept for a character called Xeroc from the old calamity lore
Xeroc still exists they're just very very very different now.
Old lore they were the creation god, now they're the first god, god of the sun, and somehow like no one knows they exist.
They also haven't done anything we know of in like a thousand years.
tbf i think people know there was a First God that killed Zeratros and some may even know of him but as a like, myth basically. A ancient legend that nobody really knows the exact details of or how true it is
Because very few people can really verify it due to how long ago it happened and how Xeroc hasn't really, shown up to verify anything
There's just a first god that killed the dragon king one day and thats the general gist of what'd be somewhat common knowledge i think
moonlord invaded like 850 ish years ago right so like its inaccurate to say 1000 years i think
okay
https://youtu.be/DW3EVvt57_A?si=s_hUs5sUpVlErqXK so is this video inaccurate
Normally the video thing pops up
there's a couple things that are egregiously incorrect (like calamitas being super old) but other than that it's fine
#lore-discussion message
heres an intro doc if you willing to read that btw
also yeah the doc is much more comprehensive and was fact checked by multiple writers
Im glad (i like fact checking lore videos before watching them)
No
Fair
Dont think so but i dont remember the specifics enough ti be confident
we solved the Calamity lore guys, now we just gotta reply with the link every time someone asks a question
(don’t do this)
yharim is strong enough to cleave a small mountain in half with one swing so i'd guess not
but i haven't played ultrakill yet
How does omega flowey (not asriel because I play fair) scale to calamity
has control over save files, so automatically more powerful than everyone
One fart and calamity verse go bye bye
but if the laws of undertale's more diegetic game universe don't transfer to calamity, definitely at least weaker than xeroc
There's a theory that all the reset and save file stuff only effects the underground
likely
And so omega flowey wouldn't have those hax in calamity verse
given how the ui changes between light and dark worlds in deltarune
Yeah
how much health does he have in the files
given that the default player hp in undertale is 20, we can multiply it by 5 to match terraria
so that like 50k
NOT 50K NOOOOOO
so that's a bit less health than revengeance cryogen
ok
Smth tells me u don't know the meme
Is hax-less omega flowey a fraud
always has been
But asriel solos fiction
Maybe not true power Minecraft steve
He truly does solo fiction
I mean
The entire fight has omega flowey toying with us i doubt the hp they have is like
Actually their limit
you have a point
Wait is that real
So could yharim beat Superman
Theres also dev statement of yharim oneshotting cities with a decently strong hit
no
Oh
Which version
Cause theres like 7449573 supermen
The new one
james gunn movie?
🤷
hm
probably
ok
^
Most supermen prob beat yharims ass easily
??? and no
Hell is living so prob not
🙁
Hell no
unlikely
City level is like
Post moonlord stuff
Wait really
Yeah
Now, could avatar of emptiness kill superman
The story itself would not function if many characters were crazy strong
Goddamn i glaze a lot then );
Moonlord, dog, providence, yharim and more would have likely either rendered the world to astroids or near uninhabitable if they could do so
Moonlord especially since in their prime they were the second strongest
Goddamn
I always thought dog could beat easily superman
So could the twins be defeated by spiderman like nothing?
):
Theres many spidermen but most probably do
Not like this affects the quality of the cal lore or anything tho
I do genuinely wonder how dragoon came to his interpretation of the lore
And calamity a lot stronger
who
Cookie clicker guy
Cal powerscaling goes a lot lower than some weapon tooltips would have you believe
vanilla scales much higher than current calamity iirc
Terraria lore is
There
Arguably you could probably find some argument for weakened moonlord being asriel tier or something like the bestiary saying still unlimited power but eh
A lot of them are hyperbole to make things sound cooler
True, outerversal calamity here we go
Wha
Tooltips have shit saying tears apart reality
Do you mean lower
Yes
snail gun
I woke up an hour ago my brain isn’t functioning properly
Fair
Happens
it was probably like
That said, Calamity is OBJECTIVELY outerversal
Is signus powerful
reading total calamity wiki and just making shit up for everything else
who's dragoon
Me
some guy on youtube
very
Signus is nearly as strong as dog if the tier change goes through so yeah
He has the potential to be
Share
made a cal video a little while back where he just made up his own story for it
potential boss
The reason I discovered calamity
Sigma envoy of thedevorer
But right now not particularly compared to some of the other heavy hitters in the story
Outdated title
No longer subserviant to dog
Terraria? I hardly know 'er!
Most music in this video is from the Calamity OST
by DM DOKURO:
www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLbrAnF1cQ0SCKw3yfO2SzJ1g5DaxXOYkv
and ENNWAY:
https://youtu.be/hAcV3SW8Jrs
i think it was this one
WE ALL discovered Calamity from old misinformed lore bideos
o
Ok
i discovered it from old INFORMED lore videos 
Photon
yes
Why didn't i get the thumbnail thing
no embeds
You’re not cool enough
tru
):
: (
Your name is not on yellow
No spare for u
Die
Oh yeah no gifs i forgor
I wanted to put a gif of minos prime ):
That is NOT minos prime



Photons old lore videos
Shame theres no new lore equivalent
I used to go to the wiki for cal lore back then
photon was goated
When are we getting a Yharim Crusades TV show
54 years
Right after the SSO so about 6 years.
tomorrow
no...
what the fuck
Nah we need a calamity stage musical
Trust me, it would be PEAK
Bro thinks he's AoE 
I thought ur pfp was hornet for a second lol
tomorrow's another day...
tomorrow's another day
tomorrow's another day
epic the musical(amity)
tomorrow’s another day
tomorrow’s another day
we're not doing this here
another day, another sso brainrot
tomorrow's another day
the sso brainrot can stay in spoiler talk
do not the lore channel
We got our own rot in here
you
Whatabout me
Yall think prime moon lord had legs
i think so yeah
based on that one item they probably were tentacle-esque
moon lord legs. that one. that item
yep
Are we having this discussion again
Didn't the devs confirm it
How strong is the eoc
coughing baby
):
Not that strong in the grand scheme of things but defeating it is proof enough for people to make you into a local legend iirc (or other bosses that tier like ds and kinglsime)
Like monster tier
Revengeance launches teeth so is that more powerful than average moster or?
The average monster is stuff like zombies and slimes or demon eyes or the wulfrum robots
So yes
Its above them
Well i Guess he is just and big eye
I don't see how that specifically would make it stronger
Specially since it's getting removed anyways lo
It's literally just as melon said yeah its just
Monster. but big
It's like. a elephant. obviously elephants are big and scary and powerful but they're also ultimately unremarkable and mundane
Atleast in the grand scheme of things
Well it works for me thanks
@manic coral hey will permafrost have any changes to his dialogue tree based on the biome he's in?
There might be some minor changes but I doubt there'd be anything significant.
also is the permafrost dialogue gonna be in sso
Maybe? Amidias's probably will be but Permafrost's might be later on, not sure what update it could fit in though.
Cause after SSO is the crags overhaul right?
I could see him getting his dialogue in that considering the crags connection to calamitas.
Idk though
i'm asking cei 
your answer is unhelpful because you do not know
I was theorizing cause I can't find if there's any mention.
It'll take the exact amount of time for Cei to answer anyways no matter what I say so it doesn't matter.
Okay so I'm searching the server and from what I can tell we'll get at least some of his dialogue in the SSO.
Unless it's being written for an update further in the future.
there is no decided update after sso yet
isnt it sso2
I'm talking about once the entire overhaul is done, not just part one.
if you mean the old update roadmap the devs were doing before fabdeath crags was gonna be the second big update after sso
but now its really up to what they feel like doing
We know of somr updates that'll happen after sso bur not the exact order or anything
it could be yharon, the exo mechs, sulphurous sea, astral, etc
Cuz yeah no set in stone plans
amidias' dialogue rewrite is definitely in sso1/2 along with calamitas
amidias quests is sso1 iirc
since he has the whole questline and all and itd be weird if they changed literally everything else about him except the dialogue
yuh
the one thing thats most likely gonna be attached to permafrost being reworked (if anything is) is like cryogen and the ice biome content in general (then again the dialogue is more likely to be coming in sso by itself so)
but we have no idea when or if its even gonna be its own update lmao
skelli go back in the hole
not really
the scope is already massive for that stuff

in the normal random lines yes he will but that's it
So there's a ritual that lets you ascend into god-hood by consuming an auric soul. This first canonical (unless the half-dragon artist goddess ends up becoming more than fanwork) instance of it was performed by Xeroc, who also used the Terminus to make sure he becomes the god of Primordial Light and not something else. If you do not know the ritual, apparently you just can't become a god. This is additionally used to explain why the Terrarian can't just go and consume Yharon's soul to become a god; they don't know the ritual, so even if they deal with Yharon's soul teleporting away, they wouldn't be able to do much with that soul (aside from infinite yharon soul fragments i wager)
Xeroc is apparently very obscure knowledge, as not many people know of him. There's some headcanoning around #lore-discussion that Yharim didn't even spread knowledge of the "Traitor Almighty" because of the possibility that if people knew of Xeroc, they would end up considering the whole godslaying thing a completely fruitless endeavour. His ascension additionally occured in the Dragon Aerie, a location that not even Draedon can find.
I've also heard that Yharon is potentially one of the last Auric Dragons standing. If we're going by the discussions, 3,000 Auric Dragons existed, and of these, seemingly only one auric dragon, Yharon, has not been consumed by a person to become a god. That's around 3,000 people who have to had known the ritual to become a god.
So, anyhow, how did ≈3,000 people learn how to perform a ritual from a guy who's existence is generally unknown, but somehow the Terrarian in the modern day can't?
the full 3000 dragons did not survive moonlord
moonlord atleast reduced it to like 1500 iirc
also, yharon is the last auric dragon
and most ascensions happened long ago, so the knowledge of the ritual just died
i mean, there's also the part where people figured out the ritual to begin with
dragon monks probably
monks who are just dead
other than lc who is NOT telling you how to become a god
It's likely that people know there was a first god who was a monk who "betrayed" zeratros, but they wouldn't know who they were. It's possible someone figured out the ritual on their own, maybe Silva since she also used the terminus and it's possible at least one of those two taught someone else the ritual.
friendly reminder that everytime i debate about the whole ascension thing, it's entirely to advance my agenda to allow me to ascend to godhood using yharon's soul
The ritual is long lost
all the people who currently know it is NOT telling ur ass how to absorb an auric soul
the god cult existed, and they tried to get yharim to ascend to godhood. maybe it might be more accurate to say, "Yharim probably did his damned hardest to eliminate knowledge of the ritual to make sure his buddy never gets zucced in case he dies"
that feels better to me than "nah it got lost to time"
it was always secret knowledge only held by a few
and on top of that everyone who knew it is now dead or won't tell you
probably someone who knew xeroc figured it out, and shared the secret with a few others, and from there the knowledge spread a little
there's also the possibility a dragon just told a dude how to
consensual ascending most likely was a thing
It's fanwork
I literally mentioned it was fanfic stuff......
you will never ascend ingame
i forgot the reason why
but that will not happen
i think its a bit overkill considering that yharon just tps his soul away anyways
and since hes the only auric dragon we even get the chance to fight
no it's better that way so he suffers more
bro will revive but his bestie will be dead
actually if some people woh i argued with are right... it would be possibly the worst fate to give to yharim
he'd suffer an auric rejection electric chair death thanks to his pact going kaput, all the while knowing that his dearest friend, the one who gave him his life's purpose, was just zucced by the man who he wanted to succeed in his place
it'd be a fucked up way to go out
springlock suit
anyhow
Iirc there are plans for evils 2 quest line in like they wanting to make you a godking, and their fight would be basically you proving yourself worthy to learn the ritual to become the godking and revive them(depends on your character, you may just wanna kill them because you wanna be yharim 2)
but you know
future plans
concepts
slightly related but i think yharon has unrealized potential thats not being used
how
hes the dragon of rebirth. he was once key to keep his race effectively eternal
and, as we all know and well, he's pretty pissed off that all of his kin are just GONE and zucced
but as of now, yhar the on's character is just yhar the im
they both hate gods. they kill gods and thier supporters
we are so back
yharon is literally yharim but a bird
but since yharon himself once propagated a cycle of rebirth fo his kin, i feel like he'd be better off instead being someone who is trying to undo the damage caused by the existence of the god ritual
idk depends on your character too ig
no, yharim is yharon but human
i want to be evil Yharim
what if he previously cooperated with the dragon cult and its endeavours to resurrect a (presumably auric) dragon?
what if we saw fucked up experiments resulting from that?
that'd be a neat foil to Yharim's incessant destruction of the new, with Yharon's sins being the result of his attempts to bring back the old.
is yharim immune to tickles
fuck it what if polterghast was that failed attempt to resurrect a dragon from the souls of thousands of prisoners
what if you put itching powder in his armor while hes taking a shower

this is so evil
oh for fuck sake i completely forgot to add this image to the yappathon here, it would've worked so well 😭
you think draedon has contingency plans for terrarian
or contigency plans for himself

like in case draedon server got hacked by idk astral infection
is the astral infection smart enough to do that?
i feel like it’d just rot and corrupt the servers until they start shutting off individually
and draedon would have noticed it well before then
might just turn draedon into an all consuming ai instead of knowledge seeking ai

in that case we would have the grey goo scneario
i think right, what he can do is deploy either self destruct, make a separate AI that has the same goal as him, or a fuck ton of backups
why cant his scout drones just use the clentaminator
he can reverse engineer it and mass manufacture it
thats a great idea ive never thought of that
It’s Big Brain Time
what if its something that cannot be cleansed with clentaminator
the possibility of getting hijacked is low but never 0
draegone

that makes me wonder
does Draedon understand the concept of self sacrifice
like when all things is futile you have resort to self destruct
is it canon?
no
DAMN IT
its on fandom
if its on fandom you can fairly easily immediately discount it as inaccurate at the best
Yharim is canonically 9 ft 3.5 in tall, which is taller than Robert Wadlow, the tallest human on record, and the Supreme Witch in a maid costume combined.
yes
everything on fandom is so stupid and funny
even if it isnt canon i love it


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