lore-discussion

[cosmic zenith]

Providence is the divine successor to the Flame Dragon, one of the elemental Dragons directly under Zeratros and the Triad in power, fueled by an undying resolve to unmake the world in ash and decimate any that stand in Her way
I'm not saying Polter doesn't compare, I'm saying it doesn't outmatch Providence

In truth, very few of the Calamity bosses have actual narrative weight currently
They're just Terraria bosses with some cool effects and some cool stuff written about them

[eager bluff]

like. god that not only wants to burn down the world but is also more than capable of doing so. she feels like she should be on par with yharon because yharon is also the guy who essentially DID burn down the world. she still is, going by intended progression, weaker than polter

[pseudo roost]

> theme is called servants of the scourge
> big portal + random worm + actual servant of the scourge

[frosty charm]

yk something ive wondered
will we ever see her actively pursuing or working towards her "unmaking the world" ingame like w/encounters before the fight

[cosmic zenith]

I do disagree with this because DoG and also because Yharon should be significantly above Flame Dragon and, by consequence, Providence

[frosty charm]

ik she only really fights because she's mad about her gay polycule being killed but like

[light linden]

ngl

[spare pier]

Within Calamity As It Stands, Providence Feels Weak Because Every Encounter Is Basically Treated The Same Way. By Post ML Everything You Fight Is Monstrously Powerful, But There Is No Sense Of Scale, It's Just Big Numbers, So If The Numbers Just Keep Getting Bigger You're Just Left With "Yeah Providence is comparatively super weak"

[pseudo roost]

fuck world evils, just add an infection that straight-up deletes all your blocks

[light linden]

I've always thought post ml should be moved around dramatically but also a good amount of things are being changed already

[frosty charm]

THIS NEW TERRARIA BIOME IS THE MOST DIFFICULT BIOME OF EVER?!?! (STRONGER THAN ECHDEATH)

[spare pier]

I Think As It Stands The NARRATIVE Progression Of Post ML Works. Providence Being The First Boss Is Perfect

[dusk laurel]

early post ml having evil2s and weaver instead of dragonfolly

[spare pier]

Not Weaver, Void

[cosmic zenith]

It's hard to say right now, but hopefully
It'll probably manifest as seeing the aftermath of her deeds or having some sort of system in place to specify what destruction she causes (like Overhaul's wildfire system, or MoR's nuke biome)
Because blowing up a hole in your world is obviously not great game design

[dusk laurel]

right

i forgot its void now instead of weaver 😭

[spare pier]

Void Works Way Better Anyways

[cosmic zenith]

Agreed

[spare pier]

Gives More Space For The Distortion To Breathe And Isn't A Character

Won't Take Much Narrative Space Away From Provi And Evils

[frosty charm]

something i dont get though
why is the fire (yes i know its ash goddess but let's be so real she's basically just fire) goddess outstaged in terms of ltieral fire by literally everyone above her except MAYBE dog and polter (not counting sentinels)

• Yharon attacks through fire and is stronger than her
• Exos have fire hot enough to rival SCal
• SCal is literally the evil fire witch

[pseudo roost]

why would evil2 be there you're fighting blood eating worms and/or a dead brain

[dusk laurel]

evil2s would get reworked

[frosty charm]

they all attack through fireballs and blasts anyways so like

[hybrid barn]

Honestly, Yharon is the funniest case, because like-
She got her powers from the flame dragon, but a dragon whose domain has nothing to do with fire beyond the phoenix symbolism outmatches them

[dusk laurel]

they are the main coalescence of the gods that make up the crimson and corruption, war and dogma respectively. perforators will be changed into a fleshy hydra for example

[sleek halo]

Scal is

different

[frosty charm]

Providence gifted power Yharon pure effort

[sleek halo]

Yharon’s strength does not come from flames alone

[frosty charm]

brimstone flames yadda yadda its in the name

[hybrid barn]

At least SCal makes sense since she's implied to have gotten her magic stores from Brimmy

[frosty charm]

also do any of yharons attacks (other than the dash) not include fire

[eager bluff]

ive been trying to type something out here but i dont know how best to word it
but like
i dont like how dog is handled i guess
in practice he feels a lot more like a power limiter of "no god can be above this unless they're comically op" rather than "gods just start to peter out here"

[frosty charm]

yes in lore his strength isnt from fire but playing the game i wouldnt know that

[dusk laurel]

just because yharon's currently not reworked fight has no non fire related attacks does not mean that hes never gonna have any physical attacks

[light linden]

stip got a question

[eager bluff]

feels less of "gods just stop here" and more "well hes here so no god can be above him unless they comically outmatch him because his whole thing is eating gods"

[dusk laurel]

actually wait the dashes count as a physical attack

[frosty charm]

i mean what would his non fire and non duke dash attacks be

[light linden]

have you ever thought about conveying any info about the other continents in game?

[cosmic zenith]

What if I told you this actually factors into the Flame Dragon's character/mini storyline

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah, of course

[hybrid barn]

Apparently he's going to have auric lightning in the future, theoretically at least

[light linden]

I've had people say I was flat out lying because there's no info about the world as a whole in game

[frosty charm]

domain of fraud

?

[dusk laurel]

yharon could do alot of things like clawing or swiping at the player if they get close, or use a tail bash attack

[cosmic zenith]

Though I haven't gotten very specific with it

[dusk laurel]

yes

[glacial rampart]

low tier Dragon God, Yharon

[cosmic zenith]

🤐
All I'll say for the moment is that no, Flame Dragon was not a fraud

[glacial rampart]

[frosty charm]

i mean in terms of his domain; rebirth

[eager bluff]

his rebirth has a cooldown of a decade he isnt using that in a fight

[glacial rampart]

I dont really feel like that lends much to active combat though

[light linden]

personally I think making an npc that is new, vanilla, or already in the mod talk about another continent would be a good idea

[frosty charm]

yeah provi is the real fraud needed her girlfriends to jump flame boy just to sit and do nothing with her powers #bumalert

[abstract hedge]

They're just stronger in general, it makes sense for their fire based attacks to also be stronger than hers.

[frosty charm]

i think if you get creative with it it could
im not creative so dont ask me

[dusk laurel]

thunder theres a lot of npc dialogue in future updates btw

[light linden]

ik

[cosmic zenith]

For example, while it's technically in the same continent, I was planning on covering the relationships of Ilmeris with neighboring civilizations that currently aren't mentioned ingame

[spare pier]

I Mean You Would Expect That The Devourer Of Gods Would Infact Outmatch 99% Of All Gods

[light linden]

obligatory pointing at bandit

[glacial rampart]

The way I see Yharon's strength is less related to his domain, and more that he's just more powerful at a raw level in that sense

[dusk laurel]

we know that permafrost mentions another continent in some dialogue cei revealed where he talks abt how he and the goblins share a homeland

[frosty charm]

why hasn't dog eaten the silva booger yet

[eager bluff]

i would expect that he could beat 99% of gods, not necessarily outmatch physically

[abstract hedge]

Oh sick there's more than 3 cities that existed on the heartlands (safe assumption but we'll actually know of them finally).

[spare pier]

Bro He Would Outmatch Physically Every God His Entire Thing Is Raw Fucking Power

[abstract hedge]

She's (kinda) immortal, no clue why it hasn't thrown her into the distortion though.

[spare pier]

He Is A Freight Train

[light linden]

still wonder what would happen if you fed DoG a nuke

[cosmic zenith]

Thing is though, there are very few Gods that reach that power level
Some have already been killed by Yharim, the whereabouts of others may be unknown

It's not that no God can match DoG

[light linden]

would he just deliver Noxus a nuclear blast?

[eager bluff]

which is what progression feels like its saying
it feels like dogs number is this so every god has to have a number underneath of that BECAUSE dogs number is that

[cosmic zenith]

Is that the Crusade kinda deals with them by virtue of existing for so long

[abstract hedge]

Even Xeroc? Tbf Xeroc is outmatched in destructive power by some others and is just really good at fighting alongside his strength. Or it was hyperbole and I'm reading too much into this.

[spare pier]

Not Xeroc

[frosty charm]

i had a distortion idea
the life inside is based on the consumed gods/their domains; storm weaver being reflective of otonilou and storms and void (going off of old lore) would be emptiness

[spare pier]

Xeroc Doesn't Count

[cosmic zenith]

Then there's Xeroc, the one God even Yharim couldn't outmatch

[light linden]

Xeroc is comically strong

in theory he could create an army out of nothing

[abstract hedge]

Tbf he's stronger than everyone else by a mile so they don't count in a lot of cases, that makes sense.

[spare pier]

Xeroc Is The Strongest In Everything Yeah

[cosmic zenith]

Shakidou, from what I can tell, is meant to be a sort of half-Xeroc
A God that almost escaped the "stronger than DoG, but still killable to Yharim" zone

[abstract hedge]

Oh yeah I forgot about them, they're cool though.

[spare pier]

Well They Did Escape The Zone

[hybrid barn]

Actually makes me wonder, was Zeratros just that much more powerful than the individual trio dragons in that case?

[spare pier]

Shakidou To This Day Is Stronger Than DoG

[cosmic zenith]

Didn't Shakidou get killed?

[abstract hedge]

Iirc Xeroc is stronger than Zeratros was.

[frosty charm]

and he doesnt do anything with it

[zenith geode]

iirc shakidou is whereabouts unknown

[abstract hedge]

I'm pretty sure he did ye.

[hybrid barn]

Ah fair

[light linden]

nothing we can see

also

[abstract hedge]

Xeroc is probably trying to prevent Fovos two from happening.

[frosty charm]

didnt deal with both of the genocides he was around to witness (and definitely had the power to stop)

[spare pier]

Yeah, Not By DoG Though

[frosty charm]

didnt stop the astral infection from hitting the planet

[light linden]

I still find it dumb that the living lightbulb hasn't at least been spotted by draedon

[spare pier]

But By Yharim, Yharon And Like 3 Extra Godseeker Knights

[frosty charm]

didnt stop the turbogodkiller9000 from turbogodkilling his friends/coworkers

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah, but it was still killable by Yharim+his Crusade

Which is the zone I referred to

[zenith geode]

what if he's behind the sun what about that

[spare pier]

Fair Enough

[eager bluff]

issue being there is shakidou has Literally No Lore so all we have to go off of is trust me bro and i know this is unfinished mod moment number ten billion but it does feel really shitty that someone who seems to be a major character meant to be present has no mentions or even hints of existence ingame

[abstract hedge]

The infection isn't something that can destroy the world, it shrinks over time as it condenses back into a star or something iirc.

[hybrid barn]

Or in it, Superman-style

[frosty charm]

what are the pros of letting it hit the planet

[dusk laurel]

i dont think xeroc was friends with any of the gods besides maybe knowing silva and theoretically dogma in the past

[zenith geode]

no thats old lore prov

[abstract hedge]

Nothing it just doesn't end the world, he's busier I guess.

[light linden]

I feel like draedon would be studying the sun

[cosmic zenith]

Decently powerful
Taking into account that Zeratros, without training, is Yharim tier, while a trained Yharon is obviously Yharon tier, there's a pretty large gap

[frosty charm]

with what

he has time to test you at any time of the day for hours on end (just for him to screw you out of anything from it)

potential god

[glacial rampart]

hes probably making sure cosmological world destroying threats dont happen

[plucky juniper]

🤨

[hybrid barn]

Y'know, for some reason, I hadn't considered that Yharon would be weaker than Yharim! Like I know that there's a boss tier between them, but for some reason, it's hard for me to not imagine them as equals

But yeah, that makes enough sense

[abstract hedge]

Idk. Training? Trying to deal with Noxus? Fighting cosmic horrors? We barely know anything about him. He must be really busy considering he only shows up in a story where the world ends and even then he just gives up and leaves.

[light linden]

it isn't in the game yet but there's likely a reason

[frosty charm]

always "probably" and "maybe" but never is

[cosmic zenith]

I'd imagine for a good deal of time, Yharon was actually stronger

[light linden]

Xeroc is more than likely keeping track of some threats

he likely is testing you to see if you can deal with one of the threats

it's what I'd do

[cosmic zenith]

Yharim just grew in power throughout the Crusade, enough to catch up and eventually outmatch Yharon

[abstract hedge]

I like the idea of Xeroc spending a lot of time trying to stop Noxus from doing something but that begs the question of us being able to fight Noxus (eventually) but Xeroc not being able to smite them. I forgot, is Noxus gonna die in their fight or was it never confirmed or decided?

[frosty charm]

not decided

[dusk laurel]

that depends on if noxus gets added

although itll likely be killed

[abstract hedge]

Planned but yeah plans can change.

[light linden]

there's also a decent chance xeroc is powerless in the distortion

[abstract hedge]

Maybe Xeroc kills them when they try to escape or something.

[light linden]

since the sun likely isn't there

[hybrid barn]

I'm pretty sure it's been decided that it would die either way (if it gets added), but whether you'd get to kill it yourself hasn't been

[frosty charm]

that's right, terrarian... i was never actually "noxus..." i was prince watcher!

[sleek halo]

Zeratros feels genuinely like he could be near in power to xeroc if he took training as serious

[cosmic zenith]

With time, probably

Dragons and Gods are not that different

[sleek halo]

yeah

[glacial rampart]

It could very realistically be a situation where we are needed just to weaken Noxus and potentially draw it out of the distortion in a weakened state for Xeroc to smite it

[sleek halo]

Dragons I feel like

had the better overall chance

to becoe way stronger

because of them all being unified

[abstract hedge]

Were they all unified?

[sleek halo]

mostly i feel like

[dusk laurel]

they were a society

[sleek halo]

afaik not many strayed from their society

[dusk laurel]

like there were internal conflicts but they worked together

[glacial rampart]

I wonder

[sleek halo]

but also with no one other than fovos to challenge them for thousands of years

[glacial rampart]

if the dragons had been actively training would Fovos have wiped out as many of them

[sleek halo]

no

[abstract hedge]

Nah

[sleek halo]

He would’ve probably lost realistically

like properly been put down

rather than sealed

[abstract hedge]

Training seems to do a lot in cal like with Xeroc being a a good bit stronger than Zeratros was.

[sleek halo]

Fovos had 3 factors going for him

Surprise, experience, and overwhelming power

take one away and it gets fucked up lol

[light linden]

also fun fact

it's likely none of the dragons even had armor

[sleek halo]

idk how much auric would help tbh

[light linden]

not just auric armor

armor in general

not even iron

[dusk laurel]

the dragons werent prepared for ml, theyre werent focused on becoming as strong as possible, and alot of them just werent that strong to begin with

[sleek halo]

yeah

the surprise factor

really fucked them

if they were alerted to it beforehand i imagine the time it would take to mount a proper force would be

dramatically quicker

[dusk laurel]

im not sure how much iron would help a dragon considering how much stronger they are than well a human, and if they needed armor i imagine the threat would be alot stronger than say a swarm of zombies to a person

[frosty charm]

it does give a bonus to defense

[dusk laurel]

then theres an issue of how the dragons would forge all of the metal and where they would find it

[frosty charm]

dragon of forge

[dusk laurel]

i dont think metal working was particularly common skill among the auric dragons and they would probably need something more specialized than say a foot

[real silo]

Dragon of quakes mention!!!!!!

Go my calamity groudon!!!!!!

[dusk laurel]

and seeing as how the dragons seemed to be relatively unopposed during the draconic era the need for armor exponentially goes down unless for some reason two dragons just really hate each other to the point of constantly fighting

[plucky juniper]

i mean does yharon currently have armor

[dusk laurel]

we dont know

also thats

in completely different circumstances than that of the draconic era

[real silo]

just look at his resprite smhh

[frosty charm]

yharon, dragon of placeholder

[dusk laurel]

so no thats not relevant to why the dragons seemingly didnt use armor back then

yharon in the context of the deific era would absolutely want extra protection, but he was alone for most of it so no one could or would make him armor

i could see this changing once yharim and the crusade was introduced into the equation

but of course, we wont know until dia finishes animating the resprite and then it gets coded into the game with the rework

[light linden]

there's also the whole problem of

dragons are massive

which means they need a lot of material

[cosmic zenith]

Man this is fun to write
I can't wait for when we get to it

1471st*

[robust osprey]

AURIC LAWSUIT

[real silo]

Mind dragon

dragon that blows you up with mind

[light linden]

hey stip got time for a question?

or are you busy writing?

[cosmic zenith]

I'm not busy, that was just a little note for fun and future reference

Go on

[light linden]

Is Xeroc's power dependant on the sun being in the same dimension as him?

or just a source of primordial light in general?

[cosmic zenith]

I don't think I'm supposed to answer that

[light linden]

: (

[limpid saddle]

why would the sun be in another dimension

[light linden]

I don't know

this mod has literal necromancy and infinite energy

and even the sun doesn't work like normal

[limpid saddle]

like do you think dog is gonna eat the sun & send it to the distortion

is noxus gonna open up a big portal & very carefully lower it onto the sun

[light linden]

again I don't know

we kinda know like

nothing about noxus

[split mortar]

Gods dont have auric souls they mix their soul and thr auric soul into a more unstable different thing

But then doesnt providence be not that crazy above the average god

[split mortar]

Xeroc could be in another dimension instead

[wheat walrus]

Rathian

[split mortar]

Vs lagombi
Or whoever cheese keeps on rambling about

[pulsar ocean]

filing taxes

or something

[split mortar]

Yeah cmon hurry up

[north root]

why did they make earth elemental again

both why did azafure and also why did the devs i guess

[split mortar]

Azafure wanted to replicate brimmy or something i think

[mighty zenith]

devs did because cool ig

[abstract carbon]

We all know calamatas fought brimmy after calamatas told brimmy to buy clothes

And that's how it all kicked off

[final bison]

Hey wait a minute

Weird question

How old is calamitas??

Idk she seems a bit too young from what I'm seeing

[real silo]

20+

Closer to 30

[final bison]

I thought we were fighting a literal warchild in the game lmfao

[mighty zenith]

she was a child soldier but yea she's in her late 20s now

[split mortar]

She was a child like over ten years ago when she worked for yharim

[final bison]

So it's been 10 years since rhs great yharim conquest huh

[split mortar]

Nah yharim went to the aerie like couple months ago iirc
Theres a timeline in the intro doc that is more accurate then what i know of the timeline

[cosmic zenith]

I had a whole discussion as to why that shouldn't be the case afterwards ;-;

[split mortar]

I was replying while reading i didnt get to that point before
Also isnt provi like splitting her power to the guardians a good bit and her complete power is a good bunch of bosses ahead of when we fight her or am i misremembering whats with the blue fire state

[boreal portal]

Yo boys

allow me to put you all on some game,

https://youtu.be/j2uGLMJD5lY?si=lgranNGBrJwOL7xe

[split mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/thanos-ip-gif-14713705772229163673

[glass birch]

i ate the embeds

[boreal portal]

We got Yharim in Yomi Hustle, this is essentially a fight between Yharim and Archangel Michael

tis shit is FIRE

thank me later, shoutouts to the dude who made this

(the va can be kinda cringe sometimes)

[low lily]

Bro Michael would dogwalk him 😭

[boreal portal]

yeah 😭 🙏

Also crazy we got Yharim in another game before here LMAO jkjk

https://youtu.be/3HNzbyWCLh0?si=lnfd_jnln6ZJssrI

We also got Yharim vs Gabriel (Ultrakill)

[low lily]

Archangel Michael would straight up solo fiction anyways

[boreal portal]

Agreed on that

[boreal portal]

You can kinda tell here Michael was toying with him

Even he said at the start of the fight, hes aiming to incapacitate not kill

[real silo]

You're thinking of provi + guardians

Blue provi is weaker than yellow provi + guardians

[split mortar]

No im not

[split mortar]

I never said she wasnt

[north root]

the provident providence when the evil and mysterious Wyrm comes twenty stages after her in progression

[reef nova]

Fraudim vs Fraudiel, who is the biggest bum? (joke)

[boreal portal]

Megumi

the true fraud

[novel jasper]

Is Calamitas from Azafure?

[mighty zenith]

yep

[novel jasper]

Thank you

https://tenor.com/view/calamity-supreme-calamitas-supreme-calamitas-terraria-gif-2469299775447303339

[dusk laurel]

👁️

[wanton pendant]

They're adding horror to Calamity it seems; The Legal System.

[novel jasper]

So like
If the terrarian kills Astrum Deus are they a child killer?

[wanton pendant]

If.

Good thing you don't do that.

[dusk laurel]

the terrarian doesnt kill deus unless you decide thats part of your terrarian's lore for some reason

[wanton pendant]

Although, do you consider juvenile animals children?

[dusk laurel]

normally after defeating it you free it from the infection instead but obviously rn ingame you dont see this

garbo imagine how pretty the astral will look when they rework the biome 🥹

[novel jasper]

They what?

It looks great as is

[mighty zenith]

:natstare:

[dusk laurel]

i would disagree

[mighty zenith]

its nice but it suffers from a limited color palette

like most cal biomes

[dusk laurel]

its really plain and boring rn because of how dull some of the colors are and everything looks the same

[mighty zenith]

especially for a space themed biome

[novel jasper]

I like them...

[mighty zenith]

i do too but thats why i want them to be improved

[dusk laurel]

^

[mighty zenith]

so i can like them even more

[novel jasper]

But like
I don't want them changed too much so they become
Wrong?
Idk

I don't like things changing too much

[dusk laurel]

all of them are getting changed

[mighty zenith]

change is scary

[novel jasper]

...

[mighty zenith]

but its necessary

[novel jasper]

WHYYYYY

[eager bluff]

because currently they all kinda suck

[dusk laurel]

most of the mod is being redone in the next few years because the devs do not like how dated most of the mod is

[novel jasper]

[abstract carbon]

The mod is already perfect what is there to change

[mighty zenith]

modding standards are just much higher nowadays and the devs want calamity to be closer to this standard

[novel jasper]

Aight I'm figuring out how to archive this current version..

[dusk laurel]

github

[mighty zenith]

gotham

[novel jasper]

Thanks

[dusk laurel]

whatever you say

[eager bluff]

like at best they're acceptable or just eye candy
there is nothing in depth about most of the biomes

[dusk laurel]

the github has an archive of most versions of the mod so you can compile the current version

[eager bluff]

the astral suffers from that a lot, its just a nothing biome with a decent coat of paint

[novel jasper]

I hope they don't change the soundtrack

THAT is perfect

[abstract carbon]

Yeah

Or

[dusk laurel]

for example the sunken sea sucks besides the general vibes, next update completely reworks it into being a diverse and vibrant ecosystem where the animals dont all look like rocks

[mighty zenith]

they won't

[dusk laurel]

the soundtrack isnt being changed

[abstract carbon]

Add the nonstop mix to the boss rush

[mighty zenith]

MAYBE like one or two songs in the future but thats a huge maybe

nothing more than an idea thrown around

[novel jasper]

YEEES

[dusk laurel]

i only see like 2 boss themes that would get replaced but even then its unlikely

however

thats not stopping them from adding more tracks

[mighty zenith]

yeah

[dusk laurel]

like phase 2 themes or miniboss themes

[mighty zenith]

the only one with a decent case for a change is servants of the scourge

[novel jasper]

I like DM dokuro

[mighty zenith]

left alone maybe too but that can be worked around instead

[dusk laurel]

man i wish dokuro managed to redo all of the astral before he left because deus is kinda dated 💔

[eager bluff]

servants of the scourge and id say murderswarm has a decent reason too

[mighty zenith]

i think murderswarm still can fit

like left alone, it can be worked around

[dusk laurel]

servants of the scourge just doesnt fit the lore or vibes of the new signus or storm weaver at all

[eager bluff]

because murderswarm is just kinda yharon lite which would suck for folly being mostly its own thing

[mighty zenith]

that is fair yeah

[mighty zenith]

its way too similar to dog's themes pretty much

[dusk laurel]

yeah

it makes them feel like minibosses

which is lame and undermines the fact that theyre not even dog's servants anymore

[mighty zenith]

shoutouts to sidetracked

[dusk laurel]

sidetracked themes 🙏

[eager bluff]

servants was very much made for servants phase and thats been dead for years

[light moth]

Who?

[dusk laurel]

storm weaver and signus

[light moth]

But for what
Like, doesnt it make sense that Dog’s servants have the same theme with some changes?

[dusk laurel]

.

[mighty zenith]

they're not his servants

thats the point

[light moth]

They are not?
Oh

[dusk laurel]

signus and storm weaver are almost entirely different characters than they were in the old lore

[abstract carbon]

THEYRE NOT?!?!?!

[eager bluff]

no because they arent his servants

[light moth]

So “The envoy of the devourer” title for Signus doesnt make sense in the new lore?

[dusk laurel]

its only there because the writers didnt come up with a new title at the time yet

so yes its entirely inaccurate

and yes theres a new title its just going to be implemented next update (i think)

[mighty zenith]

i wish they'd just remove it entirely for the time being tbh

[dusk laurel]

same

[azure tartan]

A lot of things don’t make sense with the new lore

Because the mod isn’t finished

[light moth]

Yeah, I know that
Like, Scal and Draedon (partly) dialogues/interactions, Calclone n shi

[mighty zenith]

storm weaver being baby dog pretty much took away any uniqueness it could have

it'd be forced into a weaker underling status

so just a filler boss

theres also the fact... we already have a trio of servants for an important boss

profaned guardians

[dusk laurel]

new lore weaver now fills the niche of being a creature that somehow escaped the theorized noxus hivemind and for some reason is something dog seems to be worried about

[wheat walrus]

weaving it

[dusk laurel]

the worst thing is that theyre right next to each other 😭

[mighty zenith]

yep

woah a trio of servants to a stronger enemy i cant wait to face them

stronger enemy 1 boss later

woah a trio of servants to a stronger enemy i cant wait to face them

[dusk laurel]

calamity mod

[wheat walrus]

would u count yharon, draedon and cal as a trio in that sense

[mighty zenith]

in old lore yeah

new lore not so much

since only 1/3 works for yharim

[wheat walrus]

and draedon as a trio (quartet) on its own

[wheat walrus]

well i mean

u can still treat them as a trio, not literal trio but

yharim's heavy-hitters

think abt it

[mighty zenith]

sure but yknow

[dusk laurel]

not really related but since heart left the team i doubt any of the other artists would want to finish her dog, which possibly means that we can finally get a unique design for dog that isnt just terraria worm boss ultra omega prime destroyer

[mighty zenith]

with old lore you'd have 3 trios of underlings to a big boss like right after another

[wheat walrus]

yea obv it's a different thing, js sayin

[mighty zenith]

guardians into provi, sentinels into DoG and the big 3 into yharim

[wheat walrus]

calamity's late progression is very trioed

[azure tartan]

The giant dog sprite is being scrapped?

[wheat walrus]

or maybe, more trioed and quadroed

[dusk laurel]

not confirmed at all but likely

[wheat walrus]

profaned guardians, distortion trio, which becomes a quartet w dog, dog can also be part of the yheavy hitters quartet, and the exos are their own quartet

[mighty zenith]

it may be scrapped cause redesigning it would take a long time and idk if the devs want to stick with the same design

[real silo]

Ah yes the trio of trios

[dusk laurel]

its a chance to give dog a new design that not only actually fits his character but also make him more unique aswell

[light moth]

And mechs
It’s vanilla, yeah
But still
Xd

[dusk laurel]

rn he shares the basic terraria boss blueprints

[abstract carbon]

Who's the big 3?

[wheat walrus]

rompopolo

[light moth]

Scal, Draedon and Yharon

[wheat walrus]

lagombi

[dusk laurel]

exo mechs

[wheat walrus]

rathian

[abstract carbon]

Is yharon a big 3 member?

[light moth]

They are not the part of Yharim’s army though

[dusk laurel]

this is about the bosses

[light moth]

He is literally the most loyal to Yharim

And his only friend

[abstract carbon]

Ah ok

[dusk laurel]

mandibles, shiny metal armor, spikes, laser points on the armor, etc etc

[mighty zenith]

currently he's part of the last 3 bosses

[abstract carbon]

I can't wait for a yharim boss

[mighty zenith]

then he will be part of the last 3 bosses before yharim

[abstract carbon]

I feel like dog is stronger tho (god eating snake vs Kfc)

[mighty zenith]

nop

progression is a good way of looking at it

[abstract carbon]

Power scaling wise?

[dusk laurel]

dog doesnt absorb the power at all

[mighty zenith]

yharon is further so he's stronger

[azure tartan]

Kfc

[abstract carbon]

Yeah?

Yharon is kfc

[mighty zenith]

ok then DoG is a gummy worm

[abstract carbon]

Ywah

[azure tartan]

Yharon is 30000 chicken nuggets

[light moth]

They are quite equal to each other
But if they ever fought (and I even think that their battle could potentially happen, yet didnt) Yharon would win
He is much faster and smaller target

[azure tartan]

This is why he’s powerful

The chicken nuggets

[abstract carbon]

Hes Mcnuggets nvm

[azure tartan]

I ate yharon

[abstract carbon]

Mmm so tasty

[boreal portal]

Technically Yharon is Yharim's right hand literally

[abstract carbon]

O rlly

[boreal portal]

Even if he isn't the strongest, positions depend on trust

Not on power

Also

Hes a big nugget

Ma big nuggy

[sleek halo]

it feels like Yharim himself would consider them equals

[boreal portal]

DoG is the gummy worm that you ate 10 years ago, protecting you now against Covid

[sleek halo]

in terms of like

status and stuff

if not put Yharon above himself

[boreal portal]

Well yeah, I mean they are friends

[sleek halo]

this i could also see

[mighty zenith]

protecting? naw dude is secretly feeding the covid in my body to destroy the world

[zenith geode]

shimmering gold worm gets you dog, got it

[boreal portal]

Real

[azure tartan]

Mrrrp

[sleek halo]

truke

[boreal portal]

Hold on, let me put you on some extra game

Since we're having this discussion about Yharon. I saw this earlier, and I think it'll be cool to show you

It emphasises more on the whole equals thing

https://youtu.be/qELJDWEzYaw?si=aP84ir2F8OdKyYMf

@sleek halo

The dialogue can be kinda cringe tho ngl

[dusk laurel]

yharim is infatuated with the auric dragons, and seeing how yharim is literally attuned with yharon, was saved from execution by yharon, and has been friends with him for more than a century, i doubt he wouldnt consider yharon an equal

[boreal portal]

Pretty much

I think he sees everyone else as either his subjects or just... what do you call it

Unstable factors I guess, I forgot the word (Calamitas and DoG)

[dusk laurel]

he doesnt see people as subjects, atleast not anymore

[boreal portal]

I meant more so because he was a king, so they're his subjects

But he isn't one anymore so, yuppies

[dusk laurel]

yharim had a vast empire yeah, but it was held up only by the military and yharim was more focused on the military part than politics

we dont know what his job title was

other than godseeker

[boreal portal]

I think Yharim was too ensnared in his ambitions that he kind of just let go of everything else

And then everything fell apart

[dusk laurel]

yharim stopped doing the crusade because he became depressed and sort of gave up

[boreal portal]

He sacrificed everything for basically nothing, the world is worse than it ever has been

[boreal portal]

It reminds me of Dracula from Castlevania

[dusk laurel]

if he was still passionate about the crusade the last thing he'd do is let go of everything

[boreal portal]

Pretty much yeah

Not much forces in the world opposed him anyways, if they did they were weak and whoever was stronger than Yharim (Xeroc) did not give two shits

[dusk laurel]

we dont know why he gave up, but its rather suspicious how a certain teaser mentions that xeroc fought a mortal once

and yharim's endgoal was killing xeroc

[boreal portal]

Braelor did oppose him

[dusk laurel]

which is impossible for him

[mighty zenith]

a mortal that made him doubt his power

...but only doubt

[dusk laurel]

yep

[boreal portal]

Which teaser?

Ive been off here for a while

[dusk laurel]

#spoilers message

[boreal portal]

Ahhh okay

I mean if any of you here are OGs

Youll remember In the old Calamity lore, Yharim did face Xeroc and lost badly

Maybe they're returning that concept

[boreal portal]

Which caused him to be depressed

[abstract hedge]

Isn't Xeroc completely different in everything but name from the old lore version?

Like he was the creation god and caused insanity and blood moons or something?

[hoary cape]

Yah

Well he wasn't necessarily the creation god before because he was the result of a bunch of gods merging together to defeat the dark gods, but he was God in that lore

Now he is just the strongest thing we know of instead of the entire universe

[boreal portal]

Yup

[fading delta]

someone summarise lore for me pls

[wanton pendant]

Team Racism commit genocide.

[fading delta]

😭

[fading delta]

a little more than that plss

[wanton pendant]

Ok, fine.

Cult tries to execute a guy and a dragon, but they survive, found Team Racism, and commit genocide.

[pulsar ocean]

world soul, world soul collapsed, dragons got auric souls which gave them power, john dragon had the light powers and he cranked up the sun so no human could live on the surface, a monk invented a ritual and a special rock to absorb auric souls, moonlord came and no diffed almost every dragon, monk absorbed injured john dragon and became the first and strongest god, then came the rest of the people and started hunting the dragons to become gods

[glacial rampart]

the dark gods oh my god bruh

[hoary cape]

What

[pulsar ocean]

did dark gods absorb dark fucked up auric souls

[hoary cape]

No

This was before auric soups existed

[glacial rampart]

auric soups...

[glacial rampart]

i had just forgotten they existed 😭

[abstract carbon]

Yharon vs Ender Dragon who Wins?

https://tenor.com/view/spongebob-question-gif-10200726

NOOOO

Embed fail

[abstract carbon]

Its not fair

[split mortar]

How strong is the enderdragon
is it like even past eye of cthulhu level iron or diamond gear is reasonable to defeat it

[zenith geode]

i think yharon would just land on the ender dragon and win

[abstract carbon]

True

[split mortar]

Also true yharons beeg

[abstract carbon]

Yharon vs kpdh

They both sing 🤷‍♂️

[split mortar]

Whats kpdh

[abstract carbon]

Kpop demon hunters

[split mortar]

Havent watched, do anyone compare to nukes

[abstract carbon]

Kpdh scale higher than godzilla for a start

Rumi (the strongest of the trio) reacted instantly to a teleport

[split mortar]

Which godzilla

[split mortar]

Well that guy outspeeds all of calamity then

By a comical anount

[abstract carbon]

Really

[split mortar]

Yes
We have no speed feats other then whats in game and in that like no one breaks the sound barrier iirc

[abstract carbon]

Gmk Godzilla

[split mortar]

Gmk godzilla is almost certainly stronger then all cal characters im pretty sure from a quick search

[abstract carbon]

EVEN SCAL

or xeroc

Or exos

[split mortar]

She takes weeks to like destroy something italy sized

[split mortar]

We have little knowledge on that guys strength but dev statements indicate like oneshots a single mountain with a normal attack or something of that sort iirc

[split mortar]

Equivalent to scal

[abstract carbon]

Wow

I highballed calamity

[split mortar]

Where did you think the characters were at

[abstract carbon]

Galaxy to universal

[split mortar]

😭

[abstract carbon]

For the stronger characters obviously

[split mortar]

The plot barely touches stuff off the planet

[limpid saddle]

many do but ultimately it's a fairly restrained setting despite all the flashy weapons named 'Universe Exploder 9000'

[split mortar]

The plot fundamentally cannot work at that scale

[limpid saddle]

they do not actually explode universes

[abstract carbon]

I mean dog can somewhat react to RoD teleports

[light linden]

I still don't understand the martian's place in the lore

[split mortar]

Because providence or moonlord or ravager or yharim or DoG would have fucked up the world to unplayable levels themself

[limpid saddle]

ok so he can watch a guy teleport & move thats not that crazy

[light linden]

they're a literal alien species who attempts an invasion and they just

aren't mentioned by anyone

[split mortar]

Reacting to movement is something everyone does in calamity
Its called reacting

[dusk laurel]

something something unfinished mod

[spare pier]

Half

[light linden]

I'd expect draedon to at minimum mention them in the draetalks

[split mortar]

@wanton pendant didnt you have a theory on em?

[spare pier]

Probably even less

[light linden]

you.

[split mortar]

Tru

[light linden]

want a bnnuy?

[spare pier]

Nah sorry

I Actually Hate Bunnies :/

[limpid saddle]

im making fajitas rn if anyone wants one

[split mortar]

Kanaya how tall was scal when she boiled the fishes

[light linden]

[wanton pendant]

Martians?

[spare pier]

Taller Than You

[split mortar]

Ye them didnt you hav a theory on em

[split mortar]

She shrunk when she got older?

[dusk laurel]

when the fajitas are sizzling

[light linden]

considering he's looking towards space industrialization

[abstract carbon]

Scal took weeks to destroy smth 151,036.5 km²

[wanton pendant]

Yeah, I came up with a few reasons they're homeless.

[dusk laurel]

you hold no power over me

[light linden]

and at the very least I'd expect him to be interested in their space travel tech

[split mortar]

Spill the beans

[limpid saddle]

yeah but what if i throw salsa in your eyes

[wanton pendant]

1. Moon Lord got them.
2. They destroyed themselves via war/unsustainability.
3. They saw Moon Lord coming and chose to destroy the planet to spite him.

[dusk laurel]

findher.ogg

[limpid saddle]

foundher.goo

[abstract carbon]

https://tenor.com/view/asgore-run-over-triki-troy-deltarune-gif-17995477417765303444

ANOTHER EMBED FAIL

[limpid saddle]

embed failure !!!

[abstract carbon]

😭

[light linden]

sure some of their tech might be worse than what draedon uses

but we know like

nothing about draedon's space travel tech

[limpid saddle]

it seems like it's more a backburner project than something he's finished

[light linden]

he said it's his next goal in the draetalk

[dusk laurel]

i very much doubt draedon would care much because his main issue is well, the moon being extremely dangerous thanks to ml but we solved that issue

[limpid saddle]

he's still trying to find a way to get around those clusters of astral infection

[dusk laurel]

the astral is a threat too yeah

[split mortar]

How do the martians avoid the. Astral

[limpid saddle]

maybe they teleport down

star trek transport beam style

[dusk laurel]

well the martians have the advantage of being organic i think so they wont get fucking overtaken by the astral immediately unlike a certain robot draedon was remotely controlling

the astral infecting their ships would be an issue but they could just navigate around it

[limpid saddle]

Unless im misremembering Draedon was alot more concerned about the ships being compromised

[limpid saddle]

FUCK

they said it before me

[dusk laurel]

[limpid saddle]

thus rings the snail bell

[abstract carbon]

Can luffy solo calamity

[split mortar]

P sure easily

[abstract carbon]

Can A flick of gokus finger solo calamity

[wheat walrus]

fodder v fodder gangalang

[wheat walrus]

you shan't survive my powerful attack

[split mortar]

Omni how would you describe my powerscale takes

[wheat walrus]

stinkaling

mad stinkalingin ewww

[tough path]

Darth Vader vs the Terminal (boss rush). Why does Darth vader win so easily and who of all bosses puts up the biggest fight against him.

[wanton pendant]

Does the Force work on magic light?

Aside from that, obviously Calamitas and Exo Mechs, since they're, you know, the strongest.

Wait, better question, does Darth Vader get a Death Star?

[tough path]

Absoloutely it does

[tough path]

Literally just doesnt need it

If he DID it would just be like.. to rest and flex?

The force works on anything comprehendable so

like even thoughts and shit

[wanton pendant]

Well it'd be the only reasonable way to beat the guy making the Boss Rush.

[tough path]

Wellll

[limpid saddle]

I think Vader losses to Calamitas because she uh

grills him

[tough path]

I mean Vader would chokeslam Yharim and everyone so

idk chief

[limpid saddle]

something anakin skywalker is rather infamously weak to

[tough path]

hes prolly got it in the bag

[tough path]

We're talking like

comic book

darth vader here

[limpid saddle]

well you didn't say that

[tough path]

not sad emo movie Episode 3 anakin

Well it was implied

if were doing proper powerscaling

[wanton pendant]

Desert Scourge has the type advantage though.

[tough path]

Vader would just think SCAL out of existence

[wanton pendant]

Everyone knows Darth Vader is weak to sand.

[tough path]

Ground > Psychic everyone knows this

[wanton pendant]

Darth Vader can't do that.

[pliant ruin]

powerscaling discussionj

[limpid saddle]

thats like saying 'oh im actually talking about my fanfiction interpretation of the character where he kills 3 bajillion people with a fart & can blow up 17 galaxies by flexing his left bicep'

[tough path]

Can, has, and always does in like 20 comics

He does that whole force ghost arc thing

[pliant ruin]

i dont think most people here have read star wars comics

[tough path]

And can like manipulate the world by kinda js thinking about it

I mean he like

possesses people

proper like stranger things sytle

style**

They made him a bit too yk

tuff

in comics

[limpid saddle]

when the fuck could darth vader possess people

[tough path]

Since forever in his force ghost arc

also many people can

[limpid saddle]

extended universe writers are just doing whatever man they dont even care

[tough path]

Force posession is just

in the movies

especially the SHOWS moreso

like

It happens in
The Acolyte – Season 1
Ashoka Episode 1
The Clone Wars – Mortis arc & Yoda arc

[wanton pendant]

Desert Scourge spits sand at him.
Darth Vader is weak to sand.
Xeroc wins.

[limpid saddle]

its true

[pliant ruin]

I can beat darth vader he dosent know what an air fryer is

[split mortar]

I have an air fryer i solo

[tough path]

xeroc idk chief

Thats heavily debatable

[wanton pendant]

Xeroc literally makes the Boss Rush.

Anyway, reading Darth Vader's wiki page, he's meant to be one of the best at dueling in the entire galaxy.

[tough path]

Didnt he lose to cthulu

[limpid saddle]

???

no

[split mortar]

What?

[tough path]

maybe old wiki

[limpid saddle]

Xeroc hasn't lost to anyone

[split mortar]

Cthulhu isnt in calamity

Xeroc is the strongest thing in calamity no question

[tough path]

''Xeroc. They used to be an omnipotent god that created the universe. Unfortunately, they were slain by Cthulhu on their conquest over the universe.'' (total calamity wiki)

[wanton pendant]

So let's call that at at least comparable to Yharim.

[lost nebula]

Whos eye is it then

[split mortar]

Total calamity wiki is fandiction

[wanton pendant]

That's form a fanfic.

[split mortar]

Not even old lore its fan made

[wanton pendant]

Which severely misunderstands what 'omnipotent' means, it seems.

[tough path]

ah

[pliant ruin]

eye of chtulhu is just a name

[wanton pendant]

Anyway, Xeroc is stronger than literally everyone else.

[tough path]

The thing with Xeroc is

If xeroc is made of matter

like if its a physical being

[pliant ruin]

there isnt an actual being called chtulhu

[tough path]

vader would just.. win

[split mortar]

Xeroc might be made of light

[split mortar]

Snail

[wanton pendant]

Not how the Force works.

[tough path]

is lol

again, read a comic

[wanton pendant]

It does not give you Victini.

[pliant ruin]

what the hell do you mean snail melongun

[tough path]

Vader can manipulate matter down to molecular construct

[pliant ruin]

nobody else said what i just said

[tough path]

he like literally pulls a person apart

[split mortar]

I already said theres no cthulhu

[split mortar]

^

[tough path]

like im talking he physically disintegrates a person just for like.. shits & gigs>

[pliant ruin]

Yes melon gun but i was replying to another comment that came after you said that and i was giving additional context

[limpid saddle]

anyone can do that with a bit of elbow grease & determination

[wanton pendant]

Then why doesn't he do this against (insert the many times that would be useful)?

[tough path]

Does in rebels, movies didnt go deep into the comic book arc

[limpid saddle]

because its EXTENDED UNIVERSE canon

[split mortar]

You say this like thats
Impressive

[wanton pendant]

Anyway, Xeroc is built different, and magic.

And the Boss Rush is made of magic light.

[tough path]

The movies are timed so

(born) --> (young sith) --> (post prime) --> (becomes nice and good and happy!)

[pliant ruin]

why are we arguing with someone who just came in the chat to flex how a character from another media scales higher than calamity

[wanton pendant]

So probably not conventional matter.

[tough path]

it never realllly touches shit

[split mortar]

Desert scourge can tear people apart as well

[split mortar]

True

[tough path]

Sand > Darth vader

duh

[limpid saddle]

Which means a bunch of writers decided they wanted to make badass mccool guy & aura farm for a billion years instead of having well-written stories

[wanton pendant]

I can probably do all that if I tried.

[split mortar]

@tough path ur cringe

[tough path]

wah wah wah

purple name

[wanton pendant]

Where does the guy who got written up for being racist to Vader scale?

[tough path]

Spend more money on the mod

[tough path]

who did

[wanton pendant]

He was in the movies.

[tough path]

LOL

racially abused

do u mean watto

the bug fly dude

[wanton pendant]

No, not that guy.

The commander on the Death Star.

[thick slate]

me

[split mortar]

Was tempted to but i gain no benefit

[tough path]

Oh Thrawn?

The blue dude

[pulsar ocean]

Do you really

[wanton pendant]

I don't think he was blue.

[limpid saddle]

what?

[tough path]

Moff Tarkin?

old man

[wanton pendant]

I think he gets force choked.

[limpid saddle]

Thrawn isnt in any of the movies

[tough path]

Ohhh yeah

the other dude from rogue 1

[wanton pendant]

He's the guy from the first movie, episode IV.

[tough path]

Orson krennic

''Try not to choke on your ambitions, director''

[limpid saddle]

hes talking about the random commandant that calls the force a bunch of mumbo jumbo & gets choked by vader

[wanton pendant]

He says that they shouldn't be listening to a monk and Vader gets mad.

[tough path]

Oh that isnt racism smh

[wanton pendant]

And a book reveals he got in trouble and had to apologize for being racist.

[tough path]

The closes it gets is Thrawn calling anakin a wasteful post monkey evolution

[split mortar]

Not in mood to play terraria so wouldnt benefit the betas while auric is up

[tough path]

Bc hes like yk

blue

and different race

looks down upon humans

[wanton pendant]

Yeah so I read through Vader's wiki page. Well, skimmed.
He can tear AT-ATs apart with the force, which is pretty cool.

[limpid saddle]

remember in Fallen Order when Vader got stopped by a large body of water

[pulsar ocean]

Yeah Vader true form no diffs xeroc

[limpid saddle]

'true form' like hes an anime antagonist 💔

[wanton pendant]

So, like, without his life support system?

I don't think he should remove that.

[pulsar ocean]

The one where he’s like red and evil and fucked up

[wanton pendant]

It'd be bad for him.

[limpid saddle]

do you mean him when he goes all astral plane mode & tries to find his dead wife's ghost

[pulsar ocean]

I think?

This guy

[limpid saddle]

i dont really see how that makes him stronger everything he saw in that place was a phantasm or an illusory trial of some kind

[low lily]

Dude xeroc is a literal god, vader ain't making it out alive

Yharim bodies him too by likely speed blitzing

[limpid saddle]

wonder if those markings are a reference to all those tatoos anakin got during the clone wars 2004

[pulsar ocean]

Yeah and slime god is also a god and he’s pre hardmode

[low lily]

He won't be pre hardmode for long

Missed the point too but alright

[limpid saddle]

true the guy may be strong & all but he's still a cripple on life support

[limpid saddle]

who is stopped by a large body of water

[pulsar ocean]

But his true form tho

[limpid saddle]

ok so he's red & isnt crippled

he can still die

[low lily]

Force users ain't gonna be able to do much against these fellas sorry to say

We bringing up slime god a literal slime, what would force do against that 💔

[limpid saddle]

I mean yeah generally the force is pretty restrained & i think that works to make it's larger displays more dramatic in the narrative

[pulsar ocean]

Ok he has 2 badass red energy swords and he can shoot red lightning and open portals to another dimensions

And he slimed palpatine and every jedi master

[limpid saddle]

ok so he can aurafarm

so can Yharim

[limpid saddle]

in his weird little phantasm alternate reality nightmare

[low lily]

Yharim solos

[wanton pendant]

Who wins the Aurafarm off?
Darth Vader of Yharim?

[limpid saddle]

that shit didnt happen for realsies

[low lily]

I haven't seen how Yharim aura farms yet so idk

[wanton pendant]

Bro, read the Lore Items.

[low lily]

He's too busy being depressed

[limpid saddle]

no he aurafarms alot

[low lily]

I was reading it and you can't see how bro aura farms from words alone

I didn't catch anything in particular unless you're thinking of something else

[split mortar]

Idk i think having ended half the world is pretty aurafull

[low lily]

That's not usually what people refer to when aura farming but if we are considering that then sure

[limpid saddle]

The inconspicous "Destiny Is For The Weak." in big yellow text;

[pulsar ocean]

would you beat darth Vader

[wanton pendant]

Of course.

[low lily]

Yeah true that goes hard

[limpid saddle]

i mean hes made of water

thats one of vaders 3 weaknesses

[split mortar]

Yharim also has a cool as fuck aesthetic imo

[tropic oak]

yhrm

[low lily]

True he does look epic

[pulsar ocean]

Leak the xeroc bossfight track

[limpid saddle]

Hi john rock

[split mortar]

Also cool af titles godseeker and gilded heretic iirc

[limpid saddle]

ok i gotta go to sleep

[pulsar ocean]

can yharim crumple spaceships with one hand

[limpid saddle]

gn lore chat

[pulsar ocean]

While aura farming

[low lily]

Dawg 💔

[split mortar]

Uh yes

[tropic oak]

ok

[limpid saddle]

vader cant do that dumbass

[pulsar ocean]

While they’re flying

[split mortar]

Yes

[pulsar ocean]

He literally did that

[tropic oak]

he literally did that

[low lily]

Dude if you genuinely believe Vader can beat Yharim that's crazy

[tropic oak]

https://youtu.be/znVxyZ85X7I?si=x79AVoPJQJyE0Xmb

[zenith geode]

vader force chokes him and then yharim just throws his sword and instantly kills spaceman

[pulsar ocean]

do I click the suspicious link or not…

[split mortar]

Its comica vader they using iirc
So
Comic moment i think

[wanton pendant]

I dunno, Yharim didn't invade the kingdom built under a desert.
Clearly he's also weak to sand.

[pulsar ocean]

Vader literally did that on screen

[tropic oak]

vader does it here

[split mortar]

Gn chat

[low lily]

Comics always make the character stronger than usual, especially the later Vader comics

[pulsar ocean]

Gn

[oblique root]

what if yharim was green

[long bloom]

he was, in ancient prehistoric lore

[oblique root]

cool

[long bloom]

not the armor though
that was still yellow

he was a lihzahrd instead of a human

[cosmic zenith]

What if Yharim is a gnome

[dusk laurel]

😨

[drifting rose]

downgrade

downgrade of the century even

[sinful adder]

Check out my post in #general-media

[frosty charm]

Wrong. Too tall to be one gnome. Four, however.

[split mortar]

The head arms legs and torso are all different gnomes

[hoary cape]

Four gnomes in auric armor

[split mortar]

The 6 yharim gnomes

[hoary berry]

yharim is simply mega falinks

[split mortar]

How far does yharim get vs pokemon

[limpid saddle]

i think a solid 40% get obliterated by auric rejection then the rest explode him

[reef nova]

Still pretty impressive

all things considered.

[reef nova]

What if Yharim was a furry Dragon or sum idk

[visual kiln]

Joe

[visual kiln]

??? Isnt that just yharon

look at him

[thick slate]

feather y dragon

[reef nova]

Not really, he prolly colours his feathers to look like Yharon more.

[visual kiln]

Wait

Oh

U said yharim not yharon

[thick slate]

why doesnt yharon wear an awesome mech suit

[reef nova]

Because draedon refused to make him a bumblebee one

[thick slate]

bee

why would yharon wear be e

does he also like be e

beeabadobee

[frosty charm]

He already is

His fursona is definitely a dragon

[thick slate]

its definitely a bee

i dont think hed disrespect dragons by doing that

[reef nova]

What disrespect

he just a dragon fanboy fr

[thick slate]

imagine being friends with the last elephant

who was sapient

and you wear a custome of their dad

[reef nova]

Uhhhh

Nuh uh

Because how would you know Yharim wore a costume of his dad specificaly?

Besides, Yharim would prolly ask Yharon if he's aight with it

[north root]

yharim's fursona is a dragon but it's okay because it's symbolic of the fact that he is fighting for all the dragons unfairly genocided and it's a symbol of how he represents their wrath and anger and revengeance

[cloud ibex]

i don't think he'd have a straight up fursona but his armor 100% is styled after a dragon because that's like. The Point

[long bloom]

[reef nova]

This

^^

[north root]

he has a fursona but we only find out after we kill him because that's a secret he took to the grave

[reef nova]

Little does he know that we don't shame him for it

instead

we shame him for everything else

😊

[split mortar]

Unperceiving you

[north root]

melongun! that's very rude

some people require our perception to exist and it is RUDE to deny them that for no reason

[wanton pendant]

Why don't they just think?

[north root]

i percieve you waterwraithgaming, don't worry

[scenic olive]

is Yharim armor airtight

if he farts does the gas gets ventilated automatically

[wanton pendant]

If it were airtight he would die.

[prime mauve]

not if it has a self recycling air system

[sleek halo]

I hope as the fight continues with yharim

his armor gets fucked up

not just cracking and stuff

but like

even the lights and stuff begin to flicker

as electrical components are destroyed

[cosmic zenith]

[feral skiff]

#lore-discussion message

check the pins

it’s canon /j

[wheat walrus]

the primordial troodonian artifact

[light linden]

hey stip I've got a random question if you don't mind

[plucky juniper]

yharim's fursona is the bumblebirb

[cosmic zenith]

Go on

[light linden]

has any thought been put into what yharim's armor is made from outside of auric and exotech?

[cosmic zenith]

Not that I know of

[light linden]

hmm

reason I'm asking, I wonder what the inner layers are make of

most stuff would have to feel like hell on his burnt skin

[cosmic zenith]

Depends on the material, how his skin was burnt, and to what extent his burns were treated

[median helm]

There's... there's a new lore doc in pins... which I have missed for nearly one MONTH. Did anything major change with it? I need to know so I can modify it in my work (if need be)

[wanton pendant]

It has a lot of information that isn't in-game, which the original document doesn't include.
The original still contains every piece of information in-game.

[young socket]

it has dev statements, so itll be talking about non ingame info

[median helm]

Oh phew, I've already nerded out over a, hopefully, major amount of non ingame info. Glad there isn't any fundamental shakes in lore that has come across from it that I already, again, hopefully, didn't know

[split mortar]

Kill the people who made the new lore doc

[wanton pendant]

They also have some dragons.

[limpid saddle]

the entire setting of the game is a dying dream from a comatose yharim

[wanton pendant]

And the odd continent name.

[median helm]

Expertly said

[limpid saddle]

this is why he dies at the end of the game...

think about it...

[median helm]

And definetly not any amount of stabbing

Or bludgeoning. Or magic-ing

[random mulch]

or bullet-ing

[zenith geode]

or plasmaing

[young socket]

calamity is a fanfic of an in universe character long after the events of the crusade, who made a self insert saying how they defeated yharim

in reality, what actually happened was that he died of old age

[nimble swan]

dante alighieri style

[pliant ruin]

terrarians inferno

[nimble swan]

yo where's that lore doc

[limpid saddle]

look at the pins

[nimble swan]

am i anonymous if i look at it

[pliant ruin]

.

[pliant ruin]

yes that is how basically all google docs tend to work

[nimble swan]

nnuh uh

[pliant ruin]

usually only the editors show up as their actual accounts

[nimble swan]

ah

ohh

ok yuh uh then

[pulsar ocean]

Why didn’t yharim just drink a healing potion to regen his burnt skin

[limpid saddle]

what are you gonna sign into it with your account named 'i am terrorist toddler that kills people for money heres my ip address'

[nimble swan]

bro u can't doxx me like that

wtf

[random mulch]

why didn't yharim just die and respawn to heal all of his wounds, is he stupid?

[pulsar ocean]

Why didn’t braelor and statis just go to the main menu and join the overworld world

[random mulch]

why didn't calamitas just use a weapon with good homing

[median helm]

fact: Permafrost is considered such a good mage because he reforged all of his accesories to Arcane

[wanton pendant]

Look, I told you the account name was a joke, you don't need to keep bringing it up!

[nimble swan]

im sure wormhole potions coulda made this whole thing a lot simpler

[wanton pendant]

That's DoG's gimmick though, nobody wanted to overstep, you know?

[pulsar ocean]

Why didn’t calamitas just force choke yharim while he’s sleeping

[split mortar]

Yharim does not sleep

[nimble swan]

what is yharim

human?

[split mortar]

Yea

[nimble swan]

is he just a human with extra aura