#lore-discussion

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split mortar
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Annoying ass profaned enemy

zenith geode
zinc shore
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oh those fellas

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sooo her magic affected them too

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wait they were originally human?

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god damn...

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that looks pretty damn painful

mighty zenith
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maybe it wasnt painful

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since providence's whole thing is painless death

split mortar
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I follow the headcanon that the profaned fire is painless

zinc shore
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doesnt even seem like they're still intelligent

mighty zenith
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to become this they had to give provi their free will

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so yeah

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they're basically her puppets

zinc shore
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damn

zenith geode
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i dont think the immolators are followers though

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actually no it just says they arent

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theyre idols

fallen kindle
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what does immolator mean though

zenith geode
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one who immolates i'm guessing

split mortar
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Idk go google it

mighty zenith
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person who sacrifices

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through immolation

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aka fire

zenith geode
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come to think of it we dont see many followers of prov

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just scorn eaters and her guardians

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and ig the minions during her fight

mighty zenith
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well those are the ones that can actually fight probably

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provi cultists seem to be nihilists who accept death by her

zenith geode
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profaned energies are apparently shrines

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also the

Those most devout to Her travel the world, being planted into societies and acting as spies and assassins.

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you'd think there would be at least a couple assassins still remaining somewhere

mighty zenith
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maybe we'll get them as enemies eventually

visual kiln
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cst oppenheimer

split mortar
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Keep on reading it as cat oppenheimer

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And then getting brain blasted by that one deltarune comic where suzy says her name is suzy gaster

young socket
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how is that related

split mortar
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@pliant ruin your name inflicts psychic damage on me

split mortar
mighty zenith
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my full name? it's Garbo Gaster.

pliant ruin
split mortar
pliant ruin
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several times

split mortar
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😭?

pliant ruin
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have you not seen me go on insanity spirals over Melon Gun

mighty zenith
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lebron gun

split mortar
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Did not know it was due to my name

pliant ruin
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ok tbf it wasnt your name specificallt its more You ( terrariaismine ) but still

split mortar
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Only times i recall you go insane spiral is
When i randomly posted the terrarian sticker, Thanks for the input melongun thanks for the input melongun, And the one time you did it randomly at like 3 am for me

split mortar
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Did the mod role become mintier or am i just going insane

zenith geode
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gradient roles did that

split mortar
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Its been fucking ages since they became gradient

zenith geode
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i dont think the role colour changes since then though

feral skiff
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does anyone have the ā€œterrarian is youā€ meme

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like the image

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wanna adapt it for something else quickly

zenith geode
feral skiff
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thank u

pulsar ocean
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Kill cst

snow vortex
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what even is the terrarian

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are we even human

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on normal terraria too

split mortar
split mortar
indigo otter
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The terrarian is the red guy from among us

tough path
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Supreme Calamitas would lowk get bodyslammed by desert scourge no

split mortar
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If she is without mana then yeah the giant reptile beats up normal woman

indigo otter
split mortar
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Meanie

wanton pendant
tacit wraith
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btw

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is the communicate option with dreadon part of this mod?

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or an addon?

split mortar
tacit wraith
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LE GASP

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that's so cool aubywow

split mortar
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Draetalk is indeed canon

tacit wraith
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i guess dreadon is just our dickheaded acquaintance now

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just have to ignore all the war crimes U_U

split mortar
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Calamitas has also done warcrimes in the past and she helps us tbf

tacit wraith
split mortar
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Ttur

tacit wraith
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ttur? Aubrey_WhatOE

split mortar
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True

tacit wraith
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oooh okie

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also even cal has a heart, as admitted by yharim

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anyway i asked because dreadon listing out actual dates is crazy

split mortar
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Yeah draedon was a big help when some people put together a timeline with what we know

frosty charm
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That defo is a plus though

dusk laurel
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truth

tacit wraith
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whats up with the fabsol situation anyway?

frosty charm
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Also shit leader

cloud ibex
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he's been a generally shitty lead dev and unpleasant person for years and he said some transphobic bullshit and had apparently been knowingly inviting minors into a nsfw server he co-owned

tacit wraith
frosty charm
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But that's less important

tacit wraith
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scary...

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so what does that mean for this mod now hes gone..?

frosty charm
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New owner

cloud ibex
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his greatest sin was being annoying

frosty charm
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It's fine

tacit wraith
frosty charm
split mortar
cloud ibex
tacit wraith
cloud ibex
frosty charm
split mortar
frosty charm
cloud ibex
frosty charm
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They also talked a lot about their alcoholism for some reason they were like venting about it in a public channel when I was like 14 or 15

tardy root
cloud ibex
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that's because until he left, fab was the Only person allowed to do boss changes with exactly two exceptions i can think of ever

tacit wraith
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but now that u point it out...

split mortar
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Fabsol would often literally copy vanilla ai for the bosses hr madr

tacit wraith
cloud ibex
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and he really liked taking vanilla bosses and repurposing them into new things with sometimes incredibly little change

frosty charm
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I don't think they're released. Maybe the guardians?

tardy root
frosty charm
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I don't remember, time blends together nowadays

cloud ibex
tacit wraith
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so its really big update?

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or maybe just has some big cuts lol

cloud ibex
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really big update.

tacit wraith
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how long have they been working on it??

frosty charm
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Do 760 change logs seem big

tacit wraith
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5 yrs?

split mortar
cloud ibex
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well over a year

frosty charm
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2

dusk laurel
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2 years

tacit wraith
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i see Aubrey_WhatOE

split mortar
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Wait we are at 2 years now

dusk laurel
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i wouldnt count the time before 22

cloud ibex
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has it been 2 years already

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got damn

frosty charm
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I think it's closer to 2 than it is to 1 but idk

dusk laurel
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sso development technically started before bh i think so yeah

tacit wraith
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whats gonna be in the update?

frosty charm
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Sunken sea overhaul

split mortar
dusk laurel
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sunken sea overhaul

frosty charm
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Haha I said it first

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Neener neener

split mortar
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And also like a rework to 1/6 of all weapons

tacit wraith
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DannyLaugh the way those messgaes came at the same time

dusk laurel
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and uhhhhhh 5 million weapon reworks

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and a whole lot of boss changes

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sso desert scourge my beloved

split mortar
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Desert scourge and DoG changes

dusk laurel
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not just them

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theyre just the biggest

split mortar
split mortar
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Mandatory random embers mention

tacit wraith
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will there be new content?

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or just reworks?

dusk laurel
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minor boss changes would be for: cv, rav, sg, clone (the arena, i forgot if anything as said abt visuals), scal (the arena), providence (visuals), and boc

dusk laurel
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the sunken sea is getting completely changed

split mortar
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Become effectively like 4 biomes

dusk laurel
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and everything before hm thats related to it (items, enemies, etc.)

dusk laurel
split mortar
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Jeses fuck

dusk laurel
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hm ss is for a later update

frosty charm
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Is there a reason Provi uses the healing stars like does she secretly want us to win because we're so tuff

dusk laurel
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i dont know theyre just there

split mortar
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I think old lore remnant from her being mix of good and bad??

dusk laurel
# dusk laurel 5

timeless shores, radiant reefs, polyp forest, gleaming burrows, and basalt gully

dusk laurel
wanton pendant
split mortar
wanton pendant
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If I had to justify it, that's what I'd go with.
She's mad you killed her guardians.
It wouldn't be too unreasonable to justify the healing attacks to be so she can just hit you more.

untold forge
tacit wraith
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the implication that cal also has to beat back Sepulcher whenever it gets too fesity

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feisty

wanton pendant
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What implication?

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Sepulcher is her bestie.

civic bramble
agile matrix
dusk laurel
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the biome is expanded?

agile matrix
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i know

visual kiln
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haiiii

agile matrix
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how will this be under a desert without slamming into other nearby biomes like jungle

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this sounds quite big

dusk laurel
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2 minibosses dont really take up that much space

agile matrix
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the biomes probably would

dusk laurel
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not really

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it fits quite nicely

agile matrix
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ill believe it

wanton pendant
dusk laurel
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🤯

young socket
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tho those points are mainly for the basalt gully and timeless shores

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sunken sea rn is just unneccessarily big

tacit wraith
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is pemafronst as OP as his getfiedboi fight implies?

manic coral
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No.

manic coral
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In fact part of the reason that exists is because of somebody thinking that was the case

manic coral
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Under the logic of "Permafrost trained Calamitas so is he stronger than Calamitas"

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which, I mean

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Obviously not

civic bramble
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T^T that’s not true

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Strength

manic coral
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But it's a poke fun at that kinda logic be being like

civic bramble
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Part

manic coral
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"Ok but what of he was"

civic bramble
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And not even how to become stronger with them?

manic coral
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yes

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You might wonder who would came to that sort of logic

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The answer, as usual with stuff like this

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Is powerscalers

civic bramble
vocal kestrel
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Thats like imagining if professional sport coaches were also the best able athletic person on the team

wanton pendant
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Permafrost just uses his old powers.
Calamitas can't use them because she's young.

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Everyone knows if you're old you get old powers.

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Why do you think Old Duke is so strong?

distant smelt
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The deltarune brainrot is threatening to break through

wanton pendant
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Same with Yharim.
He's really old.
That's why he's strong.
Not from the gym, not from dragon soul magic.
From being old.

digital anchor
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You know I thought of something about Draedon.

What if the dead organic he saw when we awoken wasn’t just his creator, it was him. What if the creator made the robot as a continuation of his consciousness shortly before he passed away?

long bloom
wanton pendant
digital anchor
wanton pendant
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It was probably brand new at the time.

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Something something kids these days.

pliant ruin
pliant ruin
north root
wanton pendant
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Execution.

north root
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nuh uh

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personally i think SSO should just get rid of the non-sulphurous sea

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the real ocean has no lore reason to exist

wanton pendant
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Ocean Man.

dusk laurel
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puddle critter

hoary cape
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vanilla is noi longer purple

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this is a crime

north root
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put your money where your mouth is

hoary cape
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You think I have money?

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I am a discord mod

main tiger
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Phage concept art

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Wdyt

pliant ruin
limpid saddle
pulsar ocean
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Can tax collector collect the xeroc tax

dusk laurel
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im gonna kill you.

split mortar
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Im joining in

light moth
real silo
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Don't you know pooping once in the ocean instantly turns the entire world's oceans into sewage

light moth
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Xdd

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Plus, it would break too much of a content
What to do with Duke Fishron and LaA duo then?

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Like, devs could resprite LaA to be more sulphurous sea-related
But their theme would just… not work then

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Btw
What if Cal devs made another worm?
Ocean Scourge
ā€œAfter the entire underwater kingdom was wiped out, the beast, who lived in it, could only find another water place to stay, the one, being at the edge of the world. Sad that your next pray was yet another fucking worm. Chill dudeā€
Yharim would definitely say it, trust me

mighty zenith
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turn levi into a sea serpent with worm ai

drifting rose
split mortar
dusk laurel
light moth
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Yeas, returning to some topics 1 day after

fringe finch
feral skiff
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can we add that please

dusk laurel
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🄹

feral skiff
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A GOD DOES NOT FEAR DEATH

fringe finch
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Guys hear me out. What if we had like. Worm 2

digital anchor
hoary cape
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Every boss is a worm according to my sources

pulsar ocean
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why is leviathan so fat

split mortar
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Ate sand grain

thick slate
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ate desert

hoary cape
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Your mother /j

fallen kindle
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ate things

crimson junco
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I will add another worm boss to Calamity Mod

dusk laurel
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you are the blight

crimson junco
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the Ocean Scourge

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😠

dusk laurel
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what do u want me to add to the doc

crimson junco
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Polaris Parrotfish

dusk laurel
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fine

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šŸ’”

crimson junco
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your bored was already yesterday why u still bored

icy veldt
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What if DoG were a worm boss named the Purple Scourge?

pulsar ocean
icy veldt
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Everything Scourge, then. Instead of desert or aquatic, it's everything

hoary cape
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Kiriscourge

pulsar ocean
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Is slime god so fodder that the literal remnants of a dead god are post ml and he’s pre hardmode

long bloom
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john and john evil

jaunty wraith
jaunty wraith
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What does an auric soul taste like?

dusk laurel
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borger

cosmic zenith
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This is me inside your walls

crimson junco
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you're inside... my house? 😨

wanton pendant
dusk laurel
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you and melon are the gluttonous ones

light linden
cosmic zenith
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Hello

late veldt
cosmic zenith
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No

civic bramble
cosmic zenith
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Hi

civic bramble
cosmic zenith
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I'm doing ok, how about you?

civic bramble
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And killing me and friend

cosmic zenith
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Damn

civic bramble
cosmic zenith
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Calamitas

civic bramble
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That’s fair

frigid sage
civic bramble
frigid sage
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Ah

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Wait that makes a lot more sense

wanton pendant
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It means Dual Screen, not double screen.

frigid sage
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Ah

limpid saddle
split mortar
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The GGG has been alerted

civic bramble
limpid saddle
thick slate
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think it was a joke

pulsar ocean
cosmic minnow
zinc shore
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oh shit so yharim really is kind after all?

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so its just that

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he was manipulated by yharon and started hating the gods, doing the worst things to kill them

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but he still just wanted to be good?

pulsar ocean
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W yharim

thick slate
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he does not want to be good

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but is still capable of feeling bad for someone

zinc shore
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like he literally wants to be bad

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?

thick slate
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well hes stupid

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i meant good from my perspective

zinc shore
thick slate
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he thinks hes doing good

zinc shore
thick slate
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hes aware of the bad things

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he hates the gods

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also theres no real downside to killing gods

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if you do it properly

zinc shore
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which its clear he isnt

real glen
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DoG gaslighting Yharim

thick slate
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hes bad bad evil guy

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no remorse

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whateverr

split mortar
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The hallowed is the god essebce of potentially hundreds of good gods

neat tinsel
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how would draedon react to the primordial wyrm

thick slate
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wyrm

wanton pendant
neat tinsel
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also my favorite lore thing, the terrarian canonically sucks at names

civic bramble
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Hey chat

light moth
# civic bramble Anyways what’s your fav character in calamity

Draedon (quite obvious, I know)
Mostly because his interaction with the player and the weight of his actions on the world of Terraria are ones of the most expanded things in Calamity Lore
Plus, he is the one who doesnt try to do good or do evil. He pursues the goal and can do any things that we, humans, can call either good or bad.
Calamitas is pretty close to him in terms of my preference. in actual game most of staff related to her is either outdated or just lacks
But when talking about her story on paper, she is the one who I can feel real empathy to
It is just hard to imagine the weight of sins she had to carry on herself since being a child and the amount of shame she still feels. She is both the cause and the victim of this doomed, cruel world.
I just wish that her interactions with the player, Permafrost, her clone etc. would be more expanded in the game. I know it is gonna be changed in the future, I am just talking about what we have now

wanton pendant
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They should give Calamitas a gun.

civic bramble
light moth
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Xd

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I would also like to add Yharim here
But remembering the fact that he literally used child soldier and caused the world to be a liveless husk, I really want to look at his eyes through his helmet

split mortar
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Yharim dies of a heart attack asmr

light moth
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Yay

pulsar ocean
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would jared solo yharim if he got armor like dog but out of fooled auric

limpid saddle
strong notch
wanton pendant
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Echolocation, obviously.

reef nova
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W yharim

river python
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This time Draedon would be proud?

cloud ibex
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why are you posting this here

civic bramble
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Well chat

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As my name suggest

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Les start calling about calamity’s best queen

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Pbg

stoic gulch
river python
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And they should know if Draedon would be proud

river python
pliant ruin
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hes been doing this shit for 100 years

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Ever accepting the fact he's wrong is saying he wasted 100 years of his life doing basically nothing but fucking everyone and everything up

frosty charm
pulsar ocean
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is yharim a chud

zinc shore
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yharim waiting for us to get to him
meanwhile my dumbass shaking a sakura tree for hours to get the sakura bud (it will not help me in combat in any way or shape or form)

burnt leaf
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join my crusade

burnt leaf
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lmao i saw that

cosmic zenith
burnt leaf
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wrong link stip

cosmic zenith
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World Soul real

split mortar
feral skiff
wanton pendant
pulsar ocean
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can i wait out till yharim dies of old age and then i loot him

feral skiff
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hes an old man and YOU are young and healthy so i condone it

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this is assuming that YOU do not also play as an old man

pulsar ocean
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well im not an old man

feral skiff
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good

pulsar ocean
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how do i gaslight yharim into giving his inheritance to me

feral skiff
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ask him nicely

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im sure he’ll understand

agile matrix
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whos the strongest character i could feasibly gaslight into commiting sepuku

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(i as in "the avg terrarian)"

split mortar
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I feel like yharon (once yharims dead and lost everyone) or scal are best bets

thick slate
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melo

long bloom
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ngun

fallen kindle
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less

sage berry
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Hey, I just had a question, where do the clone brothers come from? Are they creations of the Calamitas Clone or are they also from Draedon?

pulsar ocean
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@limpid saddle

zenith geode
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low end necromancy from calclone

civic bramble
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Haiiii

sage berry
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But that would mean that these are being who died yes? Or are we not talking resurrecting the dead?

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Just similar magics?

zenith geode
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necromancy can "revive" memories

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as seen with the brothers during scal

young socket
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necromancy isnt ressurection

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its just controlling dead bodies

burnt leaf
split mortar
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Of course the hag knows the hag clones plans

burnt leaf
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You can ignore most things surrounding calclones fight currently ingame it's Old and not Reflective Of The Actual Lore Or Boss Fight That Will Come Later

mighty zenith
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chelsea

burnt leaf
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Triangle had some plans that involved a "replacement" for the brothers

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being basically a big robot guy

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made by draedon but discarded

split mortar
mighty zenith
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big robot guy....

sage berry
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So we don't actually need to have a body to resurrect for the clone brothers?

burnt leaf
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it would be a "brother"

sage berry
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Okay that's fair

mighty zenith
burnt leaf
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as in calclone wouldve developed a bond with it

pulsar ocean
burnt leaf
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due to their similar origins and the fact that they're both outcasts with nowhere to really go

split mortar
mighty zenith
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you hold no power here

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foolish melon

burnt leaf
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the foolish gun

sage berry
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Okay that just came to me thought I'd ask somewhere people might know…

burnt leaf
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they are not prepared for the LAGOMBIWAVE

split mortar
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The monster rot has taken the cheese

split mortar
mighty zenith
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thats true

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fortunately thats the extent of what you can do to me

light linden
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hi garbo

mighty zenith
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hi

light linden
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what would you do if I told you I put aureus in a blender?

mighty zenith
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im afraid you wont have a blender for long

sage berry
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Or are we talking different things?

mighty zenith
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no they mean that aureus

sage berry
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Okay

mighty zenith
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but also yknow, metal and blenders dont mix well

sage berry
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Yeah, even if you could make one that could encase it good luck damaging it…

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I suspect that containing this thing is a lot harder than destroying it… its really strong tech, by our standards at least

burnt leaf
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destroying it would probably be really easy irl i cant lie

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Atleast if any actually notable force was used

sage berry
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What level do we think it would be at for us?

civic bramble
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What yall talking about?

sage berry
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Just an odd tangent on Aureus…

civic bramble
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Oh Aureus

burnt leaf
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Like yeah a random person wont actually do any harm to it

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But like

burnt leaf
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i can guarantee a giant fuck off robot showing up would definitely Alert some governments

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and the moment they get involved and use any actual serious force it's Dead

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or well. "Dead"

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its. its a robot

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its not really. you know. you get it

sage berry
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Yeah, I still feel like we'd need some pretty heavy firepower to take It down

civic bramble
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A tank probably does it

split mortar
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Aureus fucks up a tank imo

civic bramble
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We should do that ingam

civic bramble
burnt leaf
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Aureus would probably fuck up your average military tank i think yeah

split mortar
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Just jump on the tank

burnt leaf
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But a few could probably cause some considerable damage to it

split mortar
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It goes boom

burnt leaf
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It has insane mobility and jumps around and shit

civic bramble
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Yk fuck it

burnt leaf
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but if it gets shot by a ton of them

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its also onna be damaged

civic bramble
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Drops the tsar bomb on it

sage berry
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That would do it

split mortar
burnt leaf
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i think people forget how much force the Real World Governments tend to have

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It's just that they don't use it willy nilly

mighty zenith
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like

sage berry
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oh yeah

burnt leaf
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Nuclear bombs also can be mass produced

sage berry
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its recon right?

mighty zenith
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aureus is basically a highly mobile tank

sage berry
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Or something like that

burnt leaf
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The thing is that there's no Geneva Convention in the Terraria world

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so shit just happens

split mortar
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Highly mobile fantasy metal tank

mighty zenith
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implying draedon would follow the geneva convention

burnt leaf
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true.

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he wouldnt.

light linden
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insert draedon automating war crime gif here

mighty zenith
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hah

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dum bass

zenith geode
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i love you attachment.gif

dusk laurel
split mortar
civic bramble
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Anyways how are you all?

split mortar
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Ill turn you into an emote

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Existing

dusk laurel
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.

mighty zenith
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split mortar
burnt leaf
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melon gun

split mortar
mighty zenith
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nefarious cat

dusk laurel
young socket
civic bramble
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Anyways how yall like PBG

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In the lore

thick slate
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bee

civic bramble
feral skiff
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BOOM. SITUATION SOLVED!

zenith geode
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surely thta would work :cl

feral skiff
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i mean it’s a plague and plagues are diseases

zenith geode
#

plague is a nanovirus

feral skiff
#

just make more nanoviruses to kill the plague /j

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im gonna stop talking now

thick slate
#

hi

zenith geode
#

the plague has a kill yourself right now button on it in case it ever gets out of hand

thick slate
#

emp

fallen kindle
pulsar ocean
#

is yharim left or right handed

feral skiff
#

how are we supposed to know

#

like.. probably right handed??

pulsar ocean
#

idk

thick slate
#

he could be ambidextrous

strong notch
wanton pendant
#

He probably taught himself how to be ambidextrous.

pulsar ocean
limpid saddle
limpid saddle
#

As of current, rather shockingly, the Infernum mod holds a more accurate depiction of Calamitas Clone in the current canon than the basegame

sage berry
limpid saddle
#

Yeah it's pretty weird

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I, as the #1 Calamitas Clone fan try to keep myself up to date on everything about her

dusk laurel
limpid saddle
dusk laurel
#

the plan was always to get rid of the evil mech eye but 22

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the artist that wouldve redesigned clone for calamity at the time left and they also made calshadow

visual kiln
#

Plplpl

dusk laurel
#

azzy

thick slate
#

do you eat pumpkin soup

feral skiff
#

OMNOMNOMNOMNOM

#

GIVE ME ALL OF IT

visual kiln
thick slate
#

i love pympkin oup

civic bramble
#

I never had pumpkin soup before

#

how does it taste like?

thick slate
#

like pumpkin

#

it has like one ingredient

civic bramble
#

actually that makes enough sense

thick slate
#

olumkin

civic bramble
#

Everyone is draedron consinderee an ai yes or no?

balmy glacier
#

yes

thick slate
violet wraith
#

Drayden

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Drayden is my favorite character in calamity terraria

feral skiff
#

either each scout-drone have seperate sentiences but shared knowledge, or it's just one entity controlling everything

wanton pendant
#

There is one Draedon, and he's in the robots. He is an AI.

low lily
#

It'd be nice if we can actually kill draedon instead of him simply disappearing

#

Maybe there are future plans for him idk

wanton pendant
#

Draedon is near impossible to kill.

#

Granted, he's on the easier end of the 'near impossible to kill' spectrum, but still.

#

Destroying every single backup of his AI is far easier than destroying all heat, water, air, earth or nature on the planet, I suppose.

#

The better debate is who is easier to permanently kill; Draedon or Yharon?

pliant ruin
#

You can destroy his body

#

You can do it ingame even

#

It just won't accomplish anything

pliant ruin
#

I think there is a strong possibility of the ritual still being out there in the world

#

it would just be hard to come accross

#

I think its plausible to discover it within your lifetime if you really put in the effort

#

Draedon on the other hand

#

Strong chance you'd not be able to kill him in your lifetime

#

As even if you destroy a ton of his backups

#

He can just make more

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The way to do it would be disabling them all at once

#

Which i have absolutely no idea how you'd accomplish

icy veldt
#

Which is good, because Yharon is more deserving of it

pliant ruin
#

the moment i saw you typing i knew exactly what you would say

zenith geode
#

surely his servers cannot survive taking a pickaxe right through them

pliant ruin
#

Yeah that's the thing

#

They're all over the place

#

He hasn't put them all together

zenith geode
#

yeah theres just way too many

pliant ruin
#

If they WERE all in one place

icy veldt
#

And the moment you start targeting some of them, Draedon would know what you're trying to do, and start taking precautions

pliant ruin
#

I'd say he'd be easier

#

because you can just like

zenith geode
#

finding a few servers would be easy theyre probably scattered like the labs

pliant ruin
zenith geode
#

but like what the fuck would you do if one's on the moon

pliant ruin
#

If you were to search for the ritual to kill Yharon for good, there is a strong likelihood Yharon wouldn't know. And even if he did, there's not much he can do beyond just, trying to fight you. Which

#

You've b eaten him once already

#

So it'd be a very pointless effort

#

On the other hand

#

If you were to destroy one or more of Draedon's servers

#

He'd know

wanton pendant
zenith geode
#

if he sees that you're trying to take him down he's probably just gonna speedrun a rocket

wanton pendant
#

I suppose maybe you could try and EMP Terraria, but Draedon probably planned for that.

zenith geode
#

don't EMPs fall off quadratically and so you'd need an absolutely colossal one

icy veldt
#

Yeah they do: inverse square law

pliant ruin
#

Out of all of the "not quite immortal but killing them is Really Fucking Hard" characters

#

I'd rank them, from hardest to easiest

icy veldt
#

Terraria is only 2D in gameplay, so it's still just inverse square, not inverse linear

pliant ruin
#

The Elementals > Xeroc > Draedon > Yharon

#

Elementals are so hard to kill they might aswell just be soft immortal

#

They'll only die when the planet itself dies

icy veldt
#

Yharim would be hard to kill, but then that would automatically be permanent once accomplished

pliant ruin
#

I meant Yharon

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brain fart

zenith geode
#

surely the beaches and the deserts and the small bits of sand underground wouldnt be too hard to get rid of

icy veldt
#

But with Yharon, Draedon, the Elementals, defeating once = -- oh nvm

zenith geode
#

:cl

#

xeroc would be the simplest its just a thing you need to kill

#

its the actually beating xeroc in a serious fight thats the problem

pliant ruin
#

On one hand

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You just need to be stronger than him.

#

On the other hand

#

You just need to be stronger than him.

wanton pendant
#

Does Xeroc's rock count?

zenith geode
#

sand is like 40% silica iirc

wanton pendant
zenith geode
#

food sometimes comes with silica gel packets

#

like beef jerky

icy veldt
#

Who's growing the food after Yharim's crusade? What's the typical quality of life for the descendants of god-abandoning cowards survivors?

wanton pendant
#

Serfdom, baby!
Feudalism round two!

pliant ruin
#

There's alot of cities out there still

#

We just don't see any ingame because we're in Hell Torture Continent

zenith geode
#

surely some of them escaped to the other continents after they caught word of mr genocide

pliant ruin
#

The world isn't apocalyptic or anything, society at large still exists

icy veldt
#

Did Yharim's crusade reach the other continents?

wanton pendant
pliant ruin
#

It was worldwide hdflr

icy veldt
#

He would've needed a navy or some means of getting to them

wanton pendant
#

The closest to 'untouched' was the place that already sucked.

icy veldt
#

Ah, so it only affected the Heartlands the most

wanton pendant
pliant ruin
#

Yharim's crusade was worldwide but the Heartlands were the ones the most destroyed yeah

#

Society at large still exists

#

It's not like

icy veldt
#

Yeah that makes sense, I was just kinda confused at first

pliant ruin
#

a post apocalyptic scenario where most society is gone and most people died

#

It's like

#

the aftermath of a really fucked up war

#

People's morale are low as fuck

#

Alot of people died

icy veldt
pliant ruin
#

Some places got absolutely fucking demolished

wanton pendant
#

I'm sure that somewhere in between commisioning war crime robots and sieging cities he had a navy built.

pliant ruin
#

And the economy and general life comfort in alot of places that haven't been demolished probalby sucks

icy veldt
pliant ruin
#

so in other words its like the great depression

#

but worse

zenith geode
#

its a worldwide super great depression

#

the economy's probably fucked

#

every export and import from the heartlands is gone

#

or at least just nuked

#

i doubt there's much going in or out

pliant ruin
#

i see the heartlands as basically a treasure crypt atp

#

like

#

explorers and merchants would probably come here (well, not probalby. they do. look ingame)

#

because theres a shit ton of unique and valuable resources

#

but to compesnate

#

its dangerous as fuck

#

so its like real life risk reward land

#

indiana jones and the heartlands

icy veldt
# zenith geode its a worldwide super great depression

Ah, I see, and since the survivors are descendants of either those who fought for Yharim, or the cowards who didn't fight hard enough to preserve their Gods, they don't deserve recovery, so the best way to prevent that would be to avenge the Gods by wiping out the rest of the world's population

wanton pendant
#

Sending you to Evil Hell Continent.

icy veldt
#

A good place to get started ultimatesmug

crimson junco
#

HPUlands

dusk laurel
pliant ruin
#

hpu biome

visual cipher
#

Oh shit a new calamity lore masterdoc dropped?

long bloom
#

it's specifically for introducing new people to lore

civic bramble
#

Hmm would we ever be able to visit the dragon aerie?

visual cipher
#

Its where youll fight yahrim

visual cipher
#

I still havent read the draedon communication logs that were added a little while ago

long bloom
#

well the new one has a faq at the bottom

civic bramble
visual cipher
#

Yea, all throughout your playthrough of calamity yahrim has just been chilling in the dragon aerie

civic bramble
visual cipher
#

We fuck with miku out here

civic bramble
#

Miku is amazing

civic bramble
#

That’s sick

visual cipher
sinful adder
split mortar
low lily
split mortar
#

Fair

scenic olive
#

chat

#

i think 1.4.5 is around the corner

#

cant wait to beat Yharim calamity with my grandkids

split mortar
hasty valley
#

Crazy

feral skiff
#

all chapters of deltarune being completed, or the Yharim bossfight releasing

#

which one comes first?

cloud ibex
#

Definitely deltarune

wanton pendant
pulsar ocean
#

shi nevermind I read it wrong

#

U right

fair pelican
#

Why calamitas had no talent for magic and suddenly got talent in brimstone magic?

Is it crucial to her character or something?

limpid saddle
# cloud ibex Definitely deltarune

I mean yeah Chapter 5 is probably gonna be Q2 2026, & I assume Chapter 6 will be maybe, very late 2027 to mid 2028? I think we can expect it to be fully out by 2029 anyway

fair pelican
#

So Yharim I think

split mortar
long bloom
fair pelican
#

So brimstone prime was as strong as calamitas is now?

lost nebula
#

THE NEXT CAL UPDATE

limpid saddle
split mortar
lost nebula
long bloom
lost nebula
#

Idk what id do without this info

long bloom
fair pelican
limpid saddle
fair pelican
long bloom
#

no it doesn't necessarily mean that

limpid saddle
split mortar
#

Brimmy would still lack skills and efficiency
And scal could have gotten bit stronger over time

limpid saddle
#

It's true, she trained under the greatest mage of all time whereas the Brimstone Elemental just had raw destructive force

icy veldt
limpid saddle
#

She has a finesse & skill Brimmy inherently doesn't, or perhaps, can't

#

We don't even know if shes sapient

split mortar
#

Brimmy does lack social skills nuking a city is not really that socially acceptable

icy veldt
#

Is it really socially unacceptable if no one survives to judge her for it?

fair pelican
fair pelican
icy veldt
#

Shush, quiet you! XD

fair pelican
#

Yes

limpid saddle
fair pelican
split mortar
#

Cowerkers were used to make wall of flesh or something

limpid saddle
long bloom
#

guide lived in azafure

limpid saddle
split mortar
limpid saddle
#

cause like

#

what does Anahita do for Leviathan?

#

ever?

long bloom
#

lure sailors to eat

#

aka literally what she does to you

fair pelican
#

Wait did Azafure fell after Yharim started his conquest?

long bloom
#

it fell significantly later

split mortar
long bloom
#

but technically yes

limpid saddle
limpid saddle
limpid saddle
# long bloom gameplay

gameplay DOES directly translate to how EVERYTHING in the narrative happens & I WILL HEAR NOTHING TO THE CONTRARY

long bloom
split mortar
fair pelican
limpid saddle
#

dude can you source that at all

zenith geode
long bloom
#

you can rule silently

fair pelican
split mortar
#

Yharim words

eager bluff
#

claiming dominion and actually talking are different

fair pelican
#

If she claims dominion it means she rules over

long bloom
#

yes

#

you can do that without talking

eager bluff
split mortar
fair pelican
split mortar
split mortar
long bloom
#

like how my dumbass bird starts lunging at me when i go near his cage

fair pelican
split mortar
#

So she hates land dwellers

long bloom
#

who is john unreliable narrator

split mortar
#

Especially for stuff like biology

fair pelican
#

As far as I know, Yharim is only incorrect when using his propaganda or bias
He shouldn’t have that against normal sea life

long bloom
#

he can still be unknowingly wrong about things

thick slate
#

he is stupid

long bloom
#

it happens quite often with people in fact

thick slate
#

yharim doesnt have access to lore doc unfortunately

split mortar
#

He was incorrect on weaver being a baby of dogs species

split mortar
wanton pendant
#

He's sometimes just ignorant.

pulsar ocean
#

yharim should write a lore doc

wanton pendant
#

He did!

pulsar ocean
icy veldt
pulsar ocean
#

this doesnt count

#

its lore pieces

#

and not even on google

wanton pendant
#

Yharim doesn't know how to use Google docs.

#

He used to ask Permafrost and Calamitas to help him with it.

#

But, you know.

limpid saddle
feral skiff
limpid saddle
#

he is just telling you an actual fact about the culture of the planet & their interpretations of celestial creatures

feral skiff
#

like he retrofitted everything with computers and he has to painstakingly teach everyone

wanton pendant
#

You would think the guy who cares a lot about the divine would point out 'oh, by the way, it's not guilty because it's not a god' at some point.

limpid saddle
#

he says 'it is guiltless'

#

he spends the entire lore item specifying 2 things, that being that it is NOT a God in the strict Calamity sense, & how it was affected by the Astral Infection

#

Though he does seem to think that the specific Astrum Deus we beat the shit out of walked it off & is now Astral Infection-less, meaning he either believes all Astrum Deusi, Deuses? are reincarnations of the one same eternal entity born of stardust & magic glitter, or it did just get better & leave

pulsar ocean
#

Astral deusiuses

abstract hazel
#

Question: Is yharim stronger than calamitas. Since yharon is at least harder in game and yharim supposedly raised yharon i haven't checked the page in a hot minute

cloud ibex
#

yes

pulsar ocean
abstract hazel
#

šŸ‘

wanton pendant
#

And Yharim didn't raise Yharon.

#

Yharon is over 2000 years old.

pulsar ocean
#

Calamitas is short so she loses

abstract hazel
wanton pendant
cloud ibex
#

she is one of the few Things in the world who he could beat but it wouldn't be an easy fight

pulsar ocean
abstract hazel
#

Thought something changed

limpid saddle
wanton pendant
fair pelican
wanton pendant
#

He does so by means of turning into an egg.

#

Like Yoshi.

limpid saddle
#

he still has the same consciousness & all

abstract hazel
#

Ah

split mortar
feral skiff
abstract hazel
marble bough
# abstract hazel I heard somethimg about an egg and stuff on tiktok

Yharim was supposed to absorb the auric soul of yharon from his egg but he rejected it and so he and the egg were tossed into the lava of the underworld and it rebirthed yharon and he saved yharim and they started a revolution against the gods for slaying the auric dragons

#

So technically no one raised anyone but yharon was yharim’s mentor for a while until yharim was corrupted by power or something so yharon forsook him

split mortar
limpid saddle
#

Yharim didn't get corrupted by anything he was always just very, very pro God murder

marble bough
#

If you read the lore thing you get after defeating yharon he explains it all

limpid saddle
#

His methods just got very extreme very fast

split mortar
cloud ibex
#

they're war crime buddies the only reason yharon left him at the end is cause he wants to stop you from killing Yharim, his one and only friend

marble bough
#

I probably read it wrong

split mortar
#

Yharon is the only character we know who stayed completely loyal and supportive of yharim through the crusade

limpid saddle
#

He considers himself a husk & a failure not because of any grander moral compromise but because he couldn't kill all the people he wanted to & alienated his closest allies & burned his empire to the ground about it

marble bough
#

I was thinking to this part, I thought by ā€œhe had bade me farewellā€ meant that yharon forsook him

feral skiff
#

he’ll die of old age before yharon returns

limpid saddle
feral skiff
#

yharim is like.. 120 years old iirc?

split mortar
feral skiff
#

yeah pretty much at the end of natural human lifespan. miracle that he’s even still alive

split mortar
snow mountain
#

tibetan monks

pulsar ocean
#

Could they cancel the yharim update and say yharim died of old age 10 years after sso

limpid saddle
snow mountain
#

yharim died on the way to his home planet

wanton pendant
#

If you leave Calamity runnning for ten years and go to the Dragon Aerie you will find Yharon looking at a dead body, mildly confused at the fact that you apparently didn't fight Yharim after all.

#

The mask will be removed.
It's Kojima.
He's done it again.

pulsar ocean
snow mountain
#

theres a secret fourth snake that is big boss but green

snow mountain
#

kojima is also there but his mouth is twice as large as usual

#

during the reveal of mgs6 he gets an apple and eats it in one bite

#

throwing the stem to his side

pulsar ocean
snow mountain
#

no its actually silent hills

#

its the usb with all the files

#

cal lore would be good if it had kojima naming schemes

#

and infodumped even more about the history of the cold war every game

#

call that shit auric dragonman

pulsar ocean
snow mountain
#

type shit

icy veldt
frosty charm
#

heartbreaking: the worst person you know is still talking

distant smelt
#

I like to imagine there’s another eye of cthulu that randomly shows up at some point pre lunatic cultist and gets obliterated

icy veldt
#

There's probably a ton of Eyes of Cthulhu out there that all have different-but-similarly-dumb nicknames

soft flame
#

the mechanic does not have any role in the making of the mechs in calamity canon, right?

cloud ibex
#

she did not

#

that was all draedon

pliant ruin
#

Also to add onto the convo earlier i do think all elementals are sapient to some extent but there is not much solid evidence for that ingame currently

leaden bridge
#

the way both brimy and anahita are treated implies they are, do not see why that'd be different for the other humanoid ones

civic bramble
#

I do believe the elementals have to be some what sapient

#

If not fully

thick slate
#

anahita is like a siren

#

also dont the elementals pick their forms

civic bramble
#

Oh yea..

wanton pendant
#

Do you have a source for that?

thick slate
#

nope

#

i say things

wanton pendant
#

Oh, I see how it is.
Guards, bring them to the dungeons!

thick slate
#

either way

#

anahita is a siren

#

gotta be somewhat sapient to do allat

long bloom
wanton pendant
#

Well, I remember that, but that was due to biomancy, not an inherent part of being an Elemental.

long bloom
#

could be either

#

or both

civic bramble
#

Is blood flare armor canon?

dusk laurel
#

yeah

#

theres no reason it isnt nor against

#

basically its canon if you decide to craft it

wanton pendant
#

...yeah, why wouldn't it?

dusk laurel
#

unless it actually has lore then its definitely canon

wanton pendant
#

It's not a dedicated item, or made of Shadowspec, or a clear reference to something else.

#

It's just magic soul blood armour.

civic bramble
#

Wait is blood flare not made from shadowspec?

dusk laurel
#

what... ?

wanton pendant
#

No, it's made of Bloodstone.

civic bramble
#

I am thinking of demonshade

#

Sorry

#

Demonshade armor would not be canon right?

dusk laurel
#

demonshade can be canon once they remove shadowspec from it

civic bramble
dusk laurel
#

yes

civic bramble
#

That’s good to know

#

Always was intrigued if it was or not

abstract hedge
#

Are the dev weapons gonna get retiered in like 5 years once Yharim is added or are they just gonna be in the same spot?

dusk laurel
#

dev weapons will be post yharim when hes added yes

#

for now theyre post exos+scal

abstract hedge
#

I'm gonna assume shadowspec will be removed then unless it's also retiered cause it doesn't fit Yharim at all.

wanton pendant
#

Shadowspec is a non-canon material that only exists to obtain dev gear.

dusk laurel
#

^

eager bluff
#

but yes it would be retiered iirc

gaunt sluice
long bloom
#

this means demonshade will no longer be crafted with shadowspec

pliant ruin
#

Cuz as the others said it's not really meant to be "canon" its just the Funny Postgame Dev Item Material ā„¢

umbral meadow
#

cant believe that dreadon committed mass genocide on those people

fleet wedge
long bloom
#

epic link fail

frosty charm
#

what's perma's personality n teaching style like