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oh those fellas
sooo her magic affected them too
wait they were originally human?
god damn...
that looks pretty damn painful
I follow the headcanon that the profaned fire is painless
doesnt even seem like they're still intelligent
to become this they had to give provi their free will
so yeah
they're basically her puppets
damn
i dont think the immolators are followers though
actually no it just says they arent
theyre idols
what does immolator mean though
one who immolates i'm guessing
Idk go google it
come to think of it we dont see many followers of prov
just scorn eaters and her guardians
and ig the minions during her fight
well those are the ones that can actually fight probably
provi cultists seem to be nihilists who accept death by her
profaned energies are apparently shrines
also the
Those most devout to Her travel the world, being planted into societies and acting as spies and assassins.
you'd think there would be at least a couple assassins still remaining somewhere
maybe we'll get them as enemies eventually
cst oppenheimer
Keep on reading it as cat oppenheimer
And then getting brain blasted by that one deltarune comic where suzy says her name is suzy gaster
how is that related
@pliant ruin your name inflicts psychic damage on me
Starts with talk about someones last name being cattenheimer or something of the sort
my full name? it's Garbo Gaster.
look how the turned have tables
When the shit did my name ever inflict psychic damage to you
several times
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have you not seen me go on insanity spirals over Melon Gun
lebron gun
Did not know it was due to my name
ok tbf it wasnt your name specificallt its more You (
) but still
Only times i recall you go insane spiral is
When i randomly posted the terrarian sticker, Thanks for the input melongun thanks for the input melongun, And the one time you did it randomly at like 3 am for me
Did the mod role become mintier or am i just going insane
gradient roles did that
Its been fucking ages since they became gradient
i dont think the role colour changes since then though
does anyone have the āterrarian is youā meme
like the image
wanna adapt it for something else quickly
thank u
Kill cst
Idk
The terrarian is the red guy from among us
Supreme Calamitas would lowk get bodyslammed by desert scourge 
If she is without mana then yeah the giant reptile beats up normal woman
put some sand in her eyes
Meanie
Come on, Yharim's gotta have trained her in lifting weights, she's at least a moderately above average woman.
Part of this mod
Draetalk is indeed canon
i guess dreadon is just our dickheaded acquaintance now
just have to ignore all the war crimes U_U
Calamitas has also done warcrimes in the past and she helps us tbf
TBF she was a teenage girl being used by the big man yharim
Ttur
ttur? 
True
oooh okie
also even cal has a heart, as admitted by yharim
anyway i asked because dreadon listing out actual dates is crazy
Yeah draedon was a big help when some people put together a timeline with what we know
That defo is a plus though
truth
he's been a generally shitty lead dev and unpleasant person for years and he said some transphobic bullshit and had apparently been knowingly inviting minors into a nsfw server he co-owned

But that's less important
New owner
his greatest sin was being annoying
It's fine

No I feel like the greater sin was y'know the minors in the NSFW server
The mod will not be fabsolian in design
So
A much brighter future
new owner, no horse-shaped vulture with an iron grip on boss changes who arbitrarily decides to add shit because he feels like it or deny things being changed because he feels like it
what does fabsolian in design mean? 
yes that is indeed the joke well observed
Bad
That's a miss goupert funkerdinckle
Very shitty
and half of it being copied from vanilla
Go my duke fishron ai
have you ever noticed how yharon is duke fishron or dragonfolly is a mothron or crabulon and aureus are mourning wood or signus is a corite or providence is ice queen or both clone and scal are retinazer
They also talked a lot about their alcoholism for some reason they were like venting about it in a public channel when I was like 14 or 15
I mean, if you are applying this logic to their modern versions the same can be said for pretty much every boss
that's because until he left, fab was the Only person allowed to do boss changes with exactly two exceptions i can think of ever
... no?
but now that u point it out...
Fabsol would often literally copy vanilla ai for the bosses hr madr
have there been any boss changes since he left?
and he really liked taking vanilla bosses and repurposing them into new things with sometimes incredibly little change
I don't think they're released. Maybe the guardians?
Like, crab and aureus literally share a single movement pattern with mourning wood
I don't remember, time blends together nowadays
no cause he left halfway through the development of an update that is currently still left in scope creep hell
really big update.
how long have they been working on it??
Do 760 change logs seem big
5 yrs?
Not much yet since sso is not out
We will get at least 2 new boss reworks in sso
well over a year
2
2 years
i see 
Wait we are at 2 years now
i wouldnt count the time before 22
I think it's closer to 2 than it is to 1 but idk
sso development technically started before bh i think so yeah
Sunken sea overhaul
Sunken sea overhaul
sunken sea overhaul
And also like a rework to 1/6 of all weapons
the way those messgaes came at the same time
and uhhhhhh 5 million weapon reworks
and a whole lot of boss changes
sso desert scourge my beloved
Desert scourge and DoG changes
Idk who else is getting changed so id rather not say false info
Mandatory random embers mention
minor boss changes would be for: cv, rav, sg, clone (the arena, i forgot if anything as said abt visuals), scal (the arena), providence (visuals), and boc
Yes
the sunken sea is getting completely changed
Become effectively like 4 biomes
and everything before hm thats related to it (items, enemies, etc.)
5
Jeses fuck
hm ss is for a later update
Is there a reason Provi uses the healing stars like does she secretly want us to win because we're so tuff
i dont know theyre just there
I think old lore remnant from her being mix of good and bad??
timeless shores, radiant reefs, polyp forest, gleaming burrows, and basalt gully
if you include minibosses then theres giant clam (renamed to king clam, a full rework to the fight, complete redesign, wont be upgraded in hm anymore i believe since the hm weapons will be from the gully) and cnidrion (repromoted back to a miniboss, a full rework and redesign, unknown if it will get a new name or not) both are also getting miniboss osts
Trying to prolong the pain.
Why would she prolong the fight or pain
If I had to justify it, that's what I'd go with.
She's mad you killed her guardians.
It wouldn't be too unreasonable to justify the healing attacks to be so she can just hit you more.

the implication that cal also has to beat back Sepulcher whenever it gets too fesity
feisty
Scal glare alone can probably put spelthur back in place
how precisely are they going to cram this under a desert
the biome is expanded?
i know
haiiii
how will this be under a desert without slamming into other nearby biomes like jungle
this sounds quite big
2 minibosses dont really take up that much space
the biomes probably would
ill believe it
Overhauled, even.
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reach down lower and reach higher
tho those points are mainly for the basalt gully and timeless shores
sunken sea rn is just unneccessarily big
is pemafronst as OP as his getfiedboi fight implies?
nope
In fact part of the reason that exists is because of somebody thinking that was the case
Wait really?
Under the logic of "Permafrost trained Calamitas so is he stronger than Calamitas"
which, I mean
Obviously not
But it's a poke fun at that kinda logic be being like
Part
"Ok but what of he was"
Wasnāt the main thing he taught scal was how to control her power?
And not even how to become stronger with them?
yes
You might wonder who would came to that sort of logic
The answer, as usual with stuff like this
Is powerscalers

The damn powescalers T^T
Thats like imagining if professional sport coaches were also the best able athletic person on the team
Permafrost just uses his old powers.
Calamitas can't use them because she's young.
Everyone knows if you're old you get old powers.
Why do you think Old Duke is so strong?
The deltarune brainrot is threatening to break through
Same with Yharim.
He's really old.
That's why he's strong.
Not from the gym, not from dragon soul magic.
From being old.
You know I thought of something about Draedon.
What if the dead organic he saw when we awoken wasnāt just his creator, it was him. What if the creator made the robot as a continuation of his consciousness shortly before he passed away?
it also could've been an attempt to transfer their consciousness to live longer and it worked but they got amnesia
The real Draedon theory is that he can control people in real life to come to that exact conclusion to throw people off the real truth.
Draedon is secretly the God of Science, and that is totally real and factual, source: dude, trust me.
What if that transfer was not compete since the technology was centuries old, so some stuff didnāt get transferred like his memories or emotional capacity.
That is actually a pretty commonly accepted theory
Could've also been intentional tbf
wtaer wraith gaming boomer arc
Execution.
nuh uh
personally i think SSO should just get rid of the non-sulphurous sea
the real ocean has no lore reason to exist
Ocean Man.
puddle critter
how about you start paying for her cosmolight then
put your money where your mouth is
cool art but i assume you meant to post in #general-media
Well I mean sure but Draedon still certainly has the capacity for emotion, think about how annoyed he gets when correcting you on the real designations for what the Terrarian named the Mech Bosses, especially Skeletron Prime, & how begrudgingly he allows you to name Miracle Matter well, Miracle Matter
Can tax collector collect the xeroc tax
im gonna kill you.
Im joining in
It has
Like, Draedon could clog up only one ocean/sea
It wouldnt necessarily mean that all of the water in Terraria will be filled with toxic wastes, would it?
Don't you know pooping once in the ocean instantly turns the entire world's oceans into sewage
Xdd
Plus, it would break too much of a content
What to do with Duke Fishron and LaA duo then?
Like, devs could resprite LaA to be more sulphurous sea-related
But their theme would just⦠not work then
Btw
What if Cal devs made another worm?
Ocean Scourge
āAfter the entire underwater kingdom was wiped out, the beast, who lived in it, could only find another water place to stay, the one, being at the edge of the world. Sad that your next pray was yet another fucking worm. Chill dudeā
Yharim would definitely say it, trust me

turn levi into a sea serpent with worm ai
Y'know what, sure

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I think that
People from the dev team were ready to go away from Fabsol (if he did not leave himself) firstly because he was a shitty dev and more importantly, shitty cooperator for 7+ years
Because I am not sure if any of people on.. that server were really traumatised
Yeas, returning to some topics 1 day after
More worms to violently worm my npcs with. Splendid.
guys what if we had a Scourge of the Universe and he liked eating gods
can we add that please
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A GOD DOES NOT FEAR DEATH
Guys hear me out. What if we had like. Worm 2
What if he was native to this strange dimension called the Distortion that not even the smartest thing in our universe understands.
Every boss is a worm according to my sources
why is leviathan so fat
Ate sand grain
ate desert
Your mother /j
ate things
I will add another worm boss to Calamity Mod
you are the blight
what do u want me to add to the doc
Polaris Parrotfish
your bored was already yesterday why u still bored
What if DoG were a worm boss named the Purple Scourge?
Scourge of the universe
Everything Scourge, then. Instead of desert or aquatic, it's everything
Kiriscourge
Is slime god so fodder that the literal remnants of a dead god are post ml and heās pre hardmode
tbf the dead god remnants are like
john and john evil
Tbf I think they were remnants of some pretty high ranking and powerful gods
What does an auric soul taste like?
borger
This is me inside your walls
you're inside... my house? šØ
I feel like they come in a variety of flavours.
you and melon are the gluttonous ones
hi stip
Hello
can I have some burger?
No
Hai stip
Hi
How are you doing!
I'm doing ok, how about you?
Was doing fine. Just am a bit angry half because of DS spawning out of nowhere T^T
And killing me and friend
Damn
Anyways whatās your fav character in calamity
Calamitas
Thatās fair
Nintendo Double Screen? Donāt Starve?
Desert scouge
It means Dual Screen, not double screen.
Ah
Calamitas Clone....
The GGG has been alerted
Thatās a great choice too
anytime someone mentions her in chat the abyss jingle should play & it should shadowping me
Hmmm
Can do
If you want
:3
think it was a joke
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Real and same
oh shit so yharim really is kind after all?
so its just that
he was manipulated by yharon and started hating the gods, doing the worst things to kill them
but he still just wanted to be good?
Heās the kindest guy in the mod
W yharim
not really
he does not want to be good
but is still capable of feeling bad for someone
wdym "does not want to be"
like he literally wants to be bad
?
yea i was pretty shocked at the last part of this lore item because i thought he cant even feel pity or empathy
he thinks hes doing good
is it like a kratos situation? he thinks that killing the gods is the right thing, not knowing what the bad stuff of him doing so are?
hes aware of the bad things
he hates the gods
also theres no real downside to killing gods
if you do it properly
which its clear he isnt
DoG gaslighting Yharim
Yharim would do another crusade but more effective if he could start from scratch
The hallowed is the god essebce of potentially hundreds of good gods
how would draedon react to the primordial wyrm
wyrm
'I wonder if I can strap a nuke to this thing?'
also my favorite lore thing, the terrarian canonically sucks at names
Hey chat
Draedon (quite obvious, I know)
Mostly because his interaction with the player and the weight of his actions on the world of Terraria are ones of the most expanded things in Calamity Lore
Plus, he is the one who doesnt try to do good or do evil. He pursues the goal and can do any things that we, humans, can call either good or bad.
Calamitas is pretty close to him in terms of my preference. in actual game most of staff related to her is either outdated or just lacks
But when talking about her story on paper, she is the one who I can feel real empathy to
It is just hard to imagine the weight of sins she had to carry on herself since being a child and the amount of shame she still feels. She is both the cause and the victim of this doomed, cruel world.
I just wish that her interactions with the player, Permafrost, her clone etc. would be more expanded in the game. I know it is gonna be changed in the future, I am just talking about what we have now
They should give Calamitas a gun.
I really did came back in the perfect time to see a reply for my question
Xd
I would also like to add Yharim here
But remembering the fact that he literally used child soldier and caused the world to be a liveless husk, I really want to look at his eyes through his helmet
Yharim dies of a heart attack asmr
Yay
would jared solo yharim if he got armor like dog but out of fooled auric
we made the right man emperor of the planet ā¤ļøāš©¹
how does he even see through that glowing gap
Echolocation, obviously.
This time Draedon would be proud?
why are you posting this here
Well chat
As my name suggest
Les start calling about calamityās best queen
Pbg
Did the bridge work
Cause here are those who know about lore
And they should know if Draedon would be proud
Yep
Yharim has gaslighted himself into thinking hes doing the right thing and hes too far up his own ideology to ever see it any other way
hes been doing this shit for 100 years
Ever accepting the fact he's wrong is saying he wasted 100 years of his life doing basically nothing but fucking everyone and everything up
He's also been "proven right" about his "gods bad" ideology several times, w/the person who tried to execute him being a god, the revelation about the super dragon genocider 9000 n several gods just being bad ppl
is yharim a chud
yharim waiting for us to get to him
meanwhile my dumbass shaking a sakura tree for hours to get the sakura bud (it will not help me in combat in any way or shape or form)
join my crusade
lmao i saw that
wrong link stip
World Soul real
When are the dragons gonna come
mystery flesh pit
hmmm.. itās almost like the Gaia hypothesis is true..
Don't worry, addons aren't canon so all that time technically didn't happen.
can i wait out till yharim dies of old age and then i loot him
hes an old man and YOU are young and healthy so i condone it
this is assuming that YOU do not also play as an old man
well im not an old man
good
how do i gaslight yharim into giving his inheritance to me
whos the strongest character i could feasibly gaslight into commiting sepuku
(i as in "the avg terrarian)"
Dog
I feel like yharon (once yharims dead and lost everyone) or scal are best bets
Ok melongun
melo
ngun
less
Hey, I just had a question, where do the clone brothers come from? Are they creations of the Calamitas Clone or are they also from Draedon?
@limpid saddle
low end necromancy from calclone
Haiiii
But that would mean that these are being who died yes? Or are we not talking resurrecting the dead?
Just similar magics?
Clone brothers are probably dying
Of course the hag knows the hag clones plans
You can ignore most things surrounding calclones fight currently ingame it's Old and not Reflective Of The Actual Lore Or Boss Fight That Will Come Later
chelsea
Triangle had some plans that involved a "replacement" for the brothers
being basically a big robot guy
made by draedon but discarded
I read this as cheeslea
big robot guy....
So we don't actually need to have a body to resurrect for the clone brothers?
it would be a "brother"
Okay that's fair
as in calclone wouldve developed a bond with it
she crazy
due to their similar origins and the fact that they're both outcasts with nowhere to really go
Stfu
the foolish gun
Okay that just came to me thought I'd ask somewhere people might knowā¦
they are not prepared for the LAGOMBIWAVE
The monster rot has taken the cheese
Doesnt mean i cant tell you to stfu
hi garbo
hi
what would you do if I told you I put aureus in a blender?
im afraid you wont have a blender for long
If I recall Aureus is Draedonās tech, last I recall, and that will not likely end well⦠probably no damage even if you could⦠yes I am taking this too literallyā¦
Or are we talking different things?
no they mean that aureus
Okay
but also yknow, metal and blenders dont mix well
Yeah, even if you could make one that could encase it good luck damaging itā¦
I suspect that containing this thing is a lot harder than destroying it⦠its really strong tech, by our standards at least
destroying it would probably be really easy irl i cant lie
Atleast if any actually notable force was used
What level do we think it would be at for us?
What yall talking about?
Just an odd tangent on Aureusā¦
Oh Aureus
Aureus?
i can guarantee a giant fuck off robot showing up would definitely Alert some governments
and the moment they get involved and use any actual serious force it's Dead
or well. "Dead"
its. its a robot
its not really. you know. you get it
Yeah, I still feel like we'd need some pretty heavy firepower to take It down
A tank probably does it
Ah the drops missiles on it
Yeah thatd kill it
Aureus fucks up a tank imo
We should do that ingam
Fr?
Aureus would probably fuck up your average military tank i think yeah
Just jump on the tank
But a few could probably cause some considerable damage to it
It goes boom
It has insane mobility and jumps around and shit
Yk fuck it
Drops the tsar bomb on it
That would do it
Aureus would be very durable compared to anything we got due to being especially armoured and whatever fantasy metals its made of
But yeah it should still get harmed
i think people forget how much force the Real World Governments tend to have
It's just that they don't use it willy nilly
the actual scary part is they can be mass produced
like
oh yeah
Nuclear bombs also can be mass produced
its recon right?
aureus is basically a highly mobile tank
Or something like that
The thing is that there's no Geneva Convention in the Terraria world
so shit just happens
Highly mobile fantasy metal tank
implying draedon would follow the geneva convention
insert draedon automating war crime gif here
i love you attachment.gif

Stfu
Anyways how are you all?
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melon gun
Wut
nefarious cat

we should ban you for spam
bee
Hai Taylor
is draedon stupid? like he has modern medicine, he should spray it over the jungle
BOOM. SITUATION SOLVED!
surely thta would work :cl
i mean itās a plague and plagues are diseases
plague is a nanovirus
hi
the plague has a kill yourself right now button on it in case it ever gets out of hand
emp
truth nuke
is yharim left or right handed
he could be ambidextrous
left legged
He probably taught himself how to be ambidextrous.
Yharim was right handed but yharon was left handed so after attunement yharim became ambidextrous
i am risen
The Cataclysmic & Catastrophic Constructs are believed to be exactly that, constructs, idols in the shape of the brothers of Calamitas that the Clone holds only faint traces of rememberance for, & tries to use to protect herself, this will be much more obvious when the rework releases, of course
As of current, rather shockingly, the Infernum mod holds a more accurate depiction of Calamitas Clone in the current canon than the basegame
To be fair that's not a surprise, I had a feeling they got it from somewhereā¦
Yeah it's pretty weird
I, as the #1 Calamitas Clone fan try to keep myself up to date on everything about her
"shockingly": the nefarious horse
the plan was always to get rid of the evil mech eye but 
the artist that wouldve redesigned clone for calamity at the time left and they also made calshadow
Plplpl
azzy
PUMPKIN SOUP?
OMNOMNOMNOMNOM
GIVE ME ALL OF IT
maybe
i love pympkin oup
oh really?
actually that makes enough sense
olumkin
Everyone is draedron consinderee an ai yes or no?
yes
draedon
some form of artificial intelligence, yes
either each scout-drone have seperate sentiences but shared knowledge, or it's just one entity controlling everything
There is one Draedon, and he's in the robots. He is an AI.
It'd be nice if we can actually kill draedon instead of him simply disappearing
Maybe there are future plans for him idk
Draedon is near impossible to kill.
Granted, he's on the easier end of the 'near impossible to kill' spectrum, but still.
Destroying every single backup of his AI is far easier than destroying all heat, water, air, earth or nature on the planet, I suppose.
The better debate is who is easier to permanently kill; Draedon or Yharon?
You can destroy his body
You can do it ingame even
It just won't accomplish anything
I'd say Yharon
I think there is a strong possibility of the ritual still being out there in the world
it would just be hard to come accross
I think its plausible to discover it within your lifetime if you really put in the effort
Draedon on the other hand
Strong chance you'd not be able to kill him in your lifetime
As even if you destroy a ton of his backups
He can just make more
The way to do it would be disabling them all at once
Which i have absolutely no idea how you'd accomplish
Which is good, because Yharon is more deserving of it
the moment i saw you typing i knew exactly what you would say
surely his servers cannot survive taking a pickaxe right through them
yeah theres just way too many
If they WERE all in one place
And the moment you start targeting some of them, Draedon would know what you're trying to do, and start taking precautions
finding a few servers would be easy theyre probably scattered like the labs
Also this too definitely yeah
but like what the fuck would you do if one's on the moon
If you were to search for the ritual to kill Yharon for good, there is a strong likelihood Yharon wouldn't know. And even if he did, there's not much he can do beyond just, trying to fight you. Which
You've b eaten him once already
So it'd be a very pointless effort
On the other hand
If you were to destroy one or more of Draedon's servers
He'd know
Good thing he hasn't gone to space... yet.
if he sees that you're trying to take him down he's probably just gonna speedrun a rocket
I suppose maybe you could try and EMP Terraria, but Draedon probably planned for that.
don't EMPs fall off quadratically and so you'd need an absolutely colossal one
Yeah they do: inverse square law
Out of all of the "not quite immortal but killing them is Really Fucking Hard" characters
I'd rank them, from hardest to easiest
Terraria is only 2D in gameplay, so it's still just inverse square, not inverse linear
The Elementals > Xeroc > Draedon > Yharon
Elementals are so hard to kill they might aswell just be soft immortal
They'll only die when the planet itself dies
Yharim would be hard to kill, but then that would automatically be permanent once accomplished
surely the beaches and the deserts and the small bits of sand underground wouldnt be too hard to get rid of
But with Yharon, Draedon, the Elementals, defeating once = -- oh nvm
:cl
xeroc would be the simplest its just a thing you need to kill
its the actually beating xeroc in a serious fight thats the problem
On one hand
You just need to be stronger than him.
On the other hand
You just need to be stronger than him.
And also every rock.
Does Xeroc's rock count?
and also every one of those packets that comes in your food because silica
sand is like 40% silica iirc
...what kind of food are you eating?
Oh that just reminded me of a question I had
Who's growing the food after Yharim's crusade? What's the typical quality of life for the descendants of god-abandoning cowards survivors?
Serfdom, baby!
Feudalism round two!
There's alot of cities out there still
We just don't see any ingame because we're in Hell Torture Continent
surely some of them escaped to the other continents after they caught word of mr genocide
The world isn't apocalyptic or anything, society at large still exists
Did Yharim's crusade reach the other continents?
It was world spanning.
It was worldwide 
He would've needed a navy or some means of getting to them
The closest to 'untouched' was the place that already sucked.
Ah, so it only affected the Heartlands the most
Yharim can has boats.
Yharim's crusade was worldwide but the Heartlands were the ones the most destroyed yeah
Society at large still exists
It's not like
Yeah that makes sense, I was just kinda confused at first
a post apocalyptic scenario where most society is gone and most people died
It's like
the aftermath of a really fucked up war
People's morale are low as fuck
Alot of people died
It will be when I'm done with it 
Some places got absolutely fucking demolished
I'm sure that somewhere in between commisioning war crime robots and sieging cities he had a navy built.
And the economy and general life comfort in alot of places that haven't been demolished probalby sucks
Yeah, obviously, I figured that out
its a worldwide super great depression
the economy's probably fucked
every export and import from the heartlands is gone
or at least just nuked
i doubt there's much going in or out
i see the heartlands as basically a treasure crypt atp
like
explorers and merchants would probably come here (well, not probalby. they do. look ingame)
because theres a shit ton of unique and valuable resources
but to compesnate
its dangerous as fuck
so its like real life risk reward land
indiana jones and the heartlands
Ah, I see, and since the survivors are descendants of either those who fought for Yharim, or the cowards who didn't fight hard enough to preserve their Gods, they don't deserve recovery, so the best way to prevent that would be to avenge the Gods by wiping out the rest of the world's population
Sending you to Evil Hell Continent.
A good place to get started 
HPUlands

hpu biome
Is the terraria world a conpressed representation of this heartlands
Oh shit a new calamity lore masterdoc dropped?
also yes
it's specifically for introducing new people to lore
Hmm would we ever be able to visit the dragon aerie?
Ittle come way down the line
Its where youll fight yahrim
I read the fuck out of the old doc about 2 years ago, but i still had lots of questions
I still havent read the draedon communication logs that were added a little while ago
well the new one has a faq at the bottom
Ah sick!
Yea, all throughout your playthrough of calamity yahrim has just been chilling in the dragon aerie
Wait is your pfp master chief with a miku plush?
It was a suit of armor I made, and one day I decided to put my miku plush inside of it
We fuck with miku out here
Oh u made that!
Thatās sick
Its still technically a wip, but i dont see myself getting back to work on it anytime soon
Ah I see
give it 10 years
Not gonna happen and why do you wanna if i may ask?
Just cause I hate him that's all
Fair
chat
i think 1.4.5 is around the corner

cant wait to beat Yharim calamity with my grandkids
Yeah its like december to january i hear
Coming before the next major cal update
I genuinely might graduate medicine before Yharim comes out
Crazy
all chapters of deltarune being completed, or the Yharim bossfight releasing
which one comes first?
Deltrune honestly
Definitely deltarune
If I don't, something would have to go seriously wrong, or I suppose seriously right for Yharim to release that quickly.
I wish I was so optimistic about sso
shi nevermind I read it wrong
U right
Why calamitas had no talent for magic and suddenly got talent in brimstone magic?
Is it crucial to her character or something?
I mean yeah Chapter 5 is probably gonna be Q2 2026, & I assume Chapter 6 will be maybe, very late 2027 to mid 2028? I think we can expect it to be fully out by 2029 anyway
Deltarune will only release all chapters in 2029 at its earliest
So Yharim I think
She likely absorbed brimstone elementals magic
the main theory is that she absorbed some of brimmy's power during their battle
not some
Most
So brimstone prime was as strong as calamitas is now?
WHEN IS THAT
THE NEXT CAL UPDATE
Due to an unknown quirk of her genetics, Calamitas has the ability to absorb magic from elementals, this occurred when fighting the Brimstone Elemental after she woke up & started destroying Azafure
When its ready
Oh ok didnt know thanks
we don't know why she can do that
Idk what id do without this info
almost definitely not
All elementals? Or just the brimstone one?
Also, doesnt this means brimstone elemental is more powerful than Yharon ans DOG?
This is mostly believed due to the fact that Calamitas Clone similarly gained Brimstone magic after making contact with Supreme Calamitas, whereas prior she had absolutely none
Why not? If she had her strength absorbed it means her full strength was her current self + calamitas
no it doesn't necessarily mean that
We have no idea, but I assume just Brimmy until we get confirmation on it (we're never getting confirmation on it)
Brimmy would still lack skills and efficiency
And scal could have gotten bit stronger over time
It's true, she trained under the greatest mage of all time whereas the Brimstone Elemental just had raw destructive force
I glanced at that message and completely misinterpreted it as being about Brimmy's social skills š
She has a finesse & skill Brimmy inherently doesn't, or perhaps, can't
We don't even know if shes sapient
I mean she does
Brimmy does lack social skills nuking a city is not really that socially acceptable
Is it really socially unacceptable if no one survives to judge her for it?
The water elemental that summons leviathan is sapient so probably Brimmy is too
Isnāt Calamitas the survivor?
Shush, quiet you! 
You mean Anahita?
Yes
also technically the guide but i guess he could've been off shopping or something when it happened
Where it said anahita is
Guide is weird
Why is he the phylactery for wall of flesh anyways
Cowerkers were used to make wall of flesh or something
I think it's assumed because she either made or formed a bond with a really big dangerous fish
wof is made of dead azafurians
guide lived in azafure
truly incredible
Yes cause only sapient beings can have friends
yeah
cause like
what does Anahita do for Leviathan?
ever?
Wait did Azafure fell after Yharim started his conquest?
it fell significantly later
Up to you
but technically yes
yeah but what sailor is diving into the ocean & punching a fish woman 74 times
yeah like 80 years after it started
gameplay
gameplay DOES directly translate to how EVERYTHING in the narrative happens & I WILL HEAR NOTHING TO THE CONTRARY
we must assume the baseline terrarian fights every boss for the game to function
Theres a timeline in the intro masterdoc if you didnt know btw
Lore states that she claims to rule the oceans
Meaning she is sapient enough to have arrogance and speak well enough for someone to understand
Whuh
what?
not necessarily
dude can you source that at all
i dont think that wofless is canon
you can rule silently
Literally first statement in anahita lore piece
"Although she claims dominion over all oceans in the world, she is in fact a recluse of the deep"
Yharim words
claiming dominion and actually talking are different
If she claims dominion it means she rules over
like im pretty sure my dog claims dominion over my backyard but he doesnt Talk
That just means she sees it as her territory no?
Yes but you canāt do that without being intelligent
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Animals have territories
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That they get pissy and violent over you entering
like how my dumbass bird starts lunging at me when i go near his cage
We see in the āAbyssā lore that other sea creatures lived in tranquil
Which means at least, she wasnāt going after every single being that entered the seas
So she hates land dwellers
while i don't think this specifically is incorrect, do keep in mind every lore item is written by yharim
who is john unreliable narrator
Especially for stuff like biology
As far as I know, Yharim is only incorrect when using his propaganda or bias
He shouldnāt have that against normal sea life
he can still be unknowingly wrong about things
he is stupid
it happens quite often with people in fact
yharim doesnt have access to lore doc unfortunately
He was incorrect on weaver being a baby of dogs species
True such shame
He refers to Astrum Deus as a god.
Astrum Deus isn't a god.
He's sometimes just ignorant.
yharim should write a lore doc
He did!
where
Hold down shift while hovering over the lore items dropped by bosses
Yharim doesn't know how to use Google docs.
He used to ask Permafrost and Calamitas to help him with it.
But, you know.
i mean he says 'On our world, this being is revered as the God of the night sky', not 'Astrum Deus is a God'
draedon is the tech support guy everyone else in Yharimās kingdom relies on
he is just telling you an actual fact about the culture of the planet & their interpretations of celestial creatures
like he retrofitted everything with computers and he has to painstakingly teach everyone
You would think the guy who cares a lot about the divine would point out 'oh, by the way, it's not guilty because it's not a god' at some point.
he did
he says 'it is guiltless'
he spends the entire lore item specifying 2 things, that being that it is NOT a God in the strict Calamity sense, & how it was affected by the Astral Infection
Though he does seem to think that the specific Astrum Deus we beat the shit out of walked it off & is now Astral Infection-less, meaning he either believes all Astrum Deusi, Deuses? are reincarnations of the one same eternal entity born of stardust & magic glitter, or it did just get better & leave
Astral deusiuses
Question: Is yharim stronger than calamitas. Since yharon is at least harder in game and yharim supposedly raised yharon i haven't checked the page in a hot minute
yes
Yharim is the final boss and is stronger than anyone who came before
Yeah, by quite a bit.
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Calamitas is short so she loses
I heard somethimg about an egg and stuff on tiktok
True and factual.
she is one of the few Things in the world who he could beat but it wouldn't be an easy fight
You could say it happened the other way around
Thought something changed
yeah he reincarnates through an egg
Yharon has the power to rise from the dead.
he knows astrum deus is not actually a god, he just says it's revered as a god
he still has the same consciousness & all
Ah
The document #lore-discussion message
oh god are there calamity mod tiktoks
Goated game reference
Yharim was supposed to absorb the auric soul of yharon from his egg but he rejected it and so he and the egg were tossed into the lava of the underworld and it rebirthed yharon and he saved yharim and they started a revolution against the gods for slaying the auric dragons
So technically no one raised anyone but yharon was yharimās mentor for a while until yharim was corrupted by power or something so yharon forsook him
what?
no that didnt happen
Yharim and yharon never forsook eachother
Yharim didn't get corrupted by anything he was always just very, very pro God murder
If you read the lore thing you get after defeating yharon he explains it all
His methods just got very extreme very fast
Yeah uh you misunderstand that
they're war crime buddies the only reason yharon left him at the end is cause he wants to stop you from killing Yharim, his one and only friend
Oh ok
I probably read it wrong
Yharon is the only character we know who stayed completely loyal and supportive of yharim through the crusade
He considers himself a husk & a failure not because of any grander moral compromise but because he couldn't kill all the people he wanted to & alienated his closest allies & burned his empire to the ground about it
I was thinking to this part, I thought by āhe had bade me farewellā meant that yharon forsook him
heāll die of old age before yharon returns
No that's because he went to go fight you & now he's 'dead', & will not reincarnate until Yharim has already passed on
yharim is like.. 120 years old iirc?
130ish
Oh ok makes sense
yeah pretty much at the end of natural human lifespan. miracle that heās even still alive
Whether it be from us or natural causes yharim will not survive to yharons rebirth
tibetan monks
Could they cancel the yharim update and say yharim died of old age 10 years after sso
oz has the opportunity to pull the greatest tribute to Kojima ever if the Calamity mod has to get it's plug pulled
yharim died on the way to his home planet
If you leave Calamity runnning for ten years and go to the Dragon Aerie you will find Yharon looking at a dead body, mildly confused at the fact that you apparently didn't fight Yharim after all.
The mask will be removed.
It's Kojima.
He's done it again.
And then the mgs6 titlecard drops
theres a secret fourth snake that is big boss but green
kojima is also there but his mouth is twice as large as usual
during the reveal of mgs6 he gets an apple and eats it in one bite
throwing the stem to his side
And inside the apple is half life 3
no its actually silent hills
its the usb with all the files
cal lore would be good if it had kojima naming schemes
and infodumped even more about the history of the cold war every game
call that shit auric dragonman
type shit
Astrum Deussies
heartbreaking: the worst person you know is still talking
I like to imagine thereās another eye of cthulu that randomly shows up at some point pre lunatic cultist and gets obliterated
There's probably a ton of Eyes of Cthulhu out there that all have different-but-similarly-dumb nicknames
the mechanic does not have any role in the making of the mechs in calamity canon, right?
Also to add onto the convo earlier i do think all elementals are sapient to some extent but there is not much solid evidence for that ingame currently
the way both brimy and anahita are treated implies they are, do not see why that'd be different for the other humanoid ones
Draedon stole her job.
Oh yea..
Not sure if that's been said.
Do you have a source for that?
Oh, I see how it is.
Guards, bring them to the dungeons!
silva can shapeshift
Well, I remember that, but that was due to biomancy, not an inherent part of being an Elemental.
Is blood flare armor canon?
yeah
theres no reason it isnt nor against
basically its canon if you decide to craft it
...yeah, why wouldn't it?
unless it actually has lore then its definitely canon
It's not a dedicated item, or made of Shadowspec, or a clear reference to something else.
It's just magic soul blood armour.
Wait is blood flare not made from shadowspec?
what... ?
No, it's made of Bloodstone.
demonshade can be canon once they remove shadowspec from it
So shadowspec is not canon?
yes
Are the dev weapons gonna get retiered in like 5 years once Yharim is added or are they just gonna be in the same spot?
I'm gonna assume shadowspec will be removed then unless it's also retiered cause it doesn't fit Yharim at all.
Shadowspec is a non-canon material that only exists to obtain dev gear.
^
but yes it would be retiered iirc
I believe they're making Demonshade a post-scal armor set but shadowspec isn't canon yea
this means demonshade will no longer be crafted with shadowspec
I mean it dosen't really fit Anything either right now
Cuz as the others said it's not really meant to be "canon" its just the Funny Postgame Dev Item Material ā¢
cant believe that dreadon committed mass genocide on those people
noo not shadowspec
dragon-Hey guys I've found out why golf balls https://are repelled by auric
golf.de/
epic link fail
what's perma's personality n teaching style like
