#lore-discussion

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crude musk
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If you have no bones do you have no mana?

long bloom
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correct

frosty charm
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Yeah that sure is centuries plural

long bloom
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jellyfish can't use magic

crude musk
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Scal weakness

long bloom
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sad

crude musk
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Yeah they just do that

frosty charm
long bloom
frosty charm
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Unless their attacks are just

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Slime

long bloom
frosty charm
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Just slime I mean

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But idk

split mortar
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I imagine moonlord is like super radioactive or something
You take a bite and fucking die to cancer and liquid organs

frosty charm
long bloom
crude musk
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Moon lord probably tastes atrocious, something our tastebuds were never meant to encounter

crude musk
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Cosmic seafood

long bloom
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foof

crude musk
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Oopsies

wanton pendant
long bloom
frosty charm
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I'm adventurous I like to try new things

crude musk
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Everything is edible once

frosty charm
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Most of these things are rancid damn

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could you eat the brimstone elemental

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probably not

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since they're just stone and fire

dusk laurel
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what evil fuck would want to eat a scourge

frosty charm
dusk laurel
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šŸ’”

frosty charm
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had an idea for plantera
plantera tea

light linden
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prions are a thing

frosty charm
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why is the final fractal here

frosty charm
wanton pendant
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Draedon: "Although the meat is a bit on the metallic side, the oil makes a mouthwatering gravy or lubricative vinaigrette."

split mortar
frosty charm
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gonna restart with the idea of the meal you can make from them and not just eating them plain

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both slimes canonically taste good though

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desert scourge would probably just be a steak of some kind, or the mandibles being hollowed out and stuffed with something

split mortar
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Slimegod drops pure gel so should be tasty

frosty charm
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thats also after you beat it

split mortar
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Yeah and??

frosty charm
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though tbf you would have to beat it to eat it

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so

wanton pendant
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Were you going to eat them alive?
Messed up.

split mortar
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the lore says slime god doesn’t eat so how could it be impure

split mortar
frosty charm
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crimson and corruption

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a stuffed scourge might be good but idk

wanton pendant
split mortar
frosty charm
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eyeballs are a delicacy in some cultures and you could probably cook the tendons

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it wouldnt be very good

split mortar
wanton pendant
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Ah, I see. No.

frosty charm
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but you could eat them nonetheless

frosty charm
split mortar
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What?

frosty charm
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crimulan (crimstone) ebonian (ebonstone) the red and purple w/imagery of the biomes

split mortar
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The crimson and corruption are dead gods
Slime god is alive
The sprites just ancient as fuck rn

frosty charm
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unless slime god just

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thought it'd be cool

young socket
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time is a flat circle

split mortar
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Slime god is just the core afaik

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Which is pure gel

frosty charm
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alr i'll put them with queen slime then

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crabulon might taste good since you can brew mushrooms into healing potions, meaning with proper prep you wouldn't be infected

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depends on how much crab is left

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i wouldn't be surprised if all of it was hollowed out by the glowing shrooms

split mortar
pliant ruin
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this chat has went full circle

split mortar
pliant ruin
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rotted so much that to avoid it people went back to boss tastes

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its tragic really

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this chat has never seen worse days i think

frosty charm
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wow rude

wanton pendant
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At the very least eating Crabulon WON'T make you get eaten from the inside out.

frosty charm
thick slate
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what lore is there even to discuss

split mortar
wanton pendant
thick slate
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"hey i have a que-"
"read pins"

wanton pendant
split mortar
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😭 true

wanton pendant
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Can you write a review?

civic bramble
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Chat I wanted to ask this again why did Xeroc disquallify us?

wanton pendant
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Because you're not worthy.

civic bramble
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Why is that

thick slate
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cuz hes sigma

pliant ruin
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if you don't have anything to add to a conversation then just don't say anything

civic bramble
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Why are we not worthy? We do beat his challenge

split mortar
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Too weak i bet
I think its gonna be noxus related and will be replaced with a viable request once you actually can fight noxus

thick slate
frosty charm
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because canonically we haven't beaten anyone that "truly" rivals him, and it's just a placeholder

split mortar
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No one rivals xeroc

pliant ruin
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its because xeroc isnt in the game

frosty charm
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you get the point

pliant ruin
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assuming that whats being talked about is boss rush

thick slate
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isnt noxus strong like xeroc

wanton pendant
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It's because YOU! (Terrarian is you) suck and Xeroc thinks you're unemployed (true).

pliant ruin
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noxus isnt as strong as xeroc

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water can you stop bro 😭

thick slate
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what is noxus purpose even

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be a bum

split mortar
split mortar
thick slate
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threat to who

civic bramble
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So would Xeroc be at the end of the boss rush?

pliant ruin
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Noxus has been Probably eating up divine essence so it's probably trying to become strong enough through that it could fight Xeroc

wanton pendant
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Maybe.

pliant ruin
split mortar
wanton pendant
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True.

sleek halo
pliant ruin
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Xeroc has negative feats

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Got beaten by a grandma

frosty charm
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maybe he should turn that frown upside down

zenith geode
pliant ruin
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aster jumpscare

crude musk
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Why didn't xeroc kill ml

split mortar
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Oh hey aster hows it goin
Charon pfp

sleek halo
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There is always a possibility of Noxus one day just

split mortar
crude musk
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Did he just see the pathetic state it was in and leave it be

sleek halo
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Pop on one side of the world

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fuck ot up

pliant ruin
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I think the idea is that Noxus owuld be a threat in the same level as Fovos

sleek halo
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eat shit

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leave

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before xeroc can arrive

wanton pendant
sleek halo
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And do it over and over

split mortar
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So that prob why

pliant ruin
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Xeroc probably has been going out of his way ot completely focus on Noxus

civic bramble
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And after reading Xeroc lore I do believe more than it was probably an agreement between the dragon and zeratos

frosty charm
pliant ruin
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Dedicating each and every damn minute of it given

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He didn't stop Yharim or Providence or Anyone Else

dusk laurel
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holy shit aster appearance

split mortar
civic bramble
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Aster appears and they leave

split mortar
crude musk
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Well yeah but he could get revenge for zeratros

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Unless he doesn't care which is fair

split mortar
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Maybe the fear of fovos 2 is enough for em to let the squid suffer moon prison for eternity

frosty charm
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use my godlike powers to help the planet i'm meant to protect? āŒ
force the goat to go through some challenge just to call them weak while i aura farm? āœ…

split mortar
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Yharim and xeroc auraboost the other

crude musk
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What if xeroc found a space council and he's forced to do politics all day

pliant ruin
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no xeroc does the reverse to yharim

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xeroc negates yharim's aura

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he absolutely mogs him

crude musk
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True!

sleek halo
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I like the silly flawed sun god

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I dislike the idea of ppl thinking he’s flawless

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he’s. like clearly. not

split mortar
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True

frosty charm
split mortar
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Yharim and embers are good shows of such

sleek halo
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his beliefs

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fuck the world over

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as much as they help it

split mortar
frosty charm
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i know

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i did

split mortar
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You will be thrown

civic bramble
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If Xeroc is a fraud than so is Al of calamity

sleek halo
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Xeroc is as strong as strong can be effectively

civic bramble
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In calamity

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Unless… the terrarian can outscale them

sleek halo
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the only other one who could potentially grow to rival that is a theoretical Noxus

civic bramble
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By the end of their adventure

sleek halo
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Or headcanon terrarian

split mortar
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P sure fraud is for when someone does not meet the hype or something
So
Stronger guy can be fraud while weaker ones not cause stronger is not as strong ss they make out to be
Thats what i think its used in anyways

crude musk
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No fraud can mean anything vaguely negative

civic bramble
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Hey Xeroc is about to be another bullet he’ll

sleek halo
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Xeroc is kind of like gojo in the vein of

split mortar
sleek halo
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The strongest but they fuck up

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a lot

civic bramble
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After Xeroc

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Draedron is the smartest guy around

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After xeroc

crude musk
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No?

civic bramble
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We all know drae is the smartest

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I hope

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Draedron limit is science iirc

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Wait let me fact check that

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Ok it is implied from what I see

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But I see it more as

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He just like science and wants to use it hence he doesn’t wanna end the world

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Still a smart guy

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He doesn’t really have a limit though from what I see other than just resources I guess

thick slate
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draedron

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how hard is it bro

civic bramble
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I just shortened it to drae before

thick slate
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draedon šŸ”•

civic bramble
thick slate
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draedon

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šŸ›Žļø

crude musk
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Draedon + dron

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Smh mh head

civic bramble
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Anyways

thick slate
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dron

civic bramble
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What’s your fav domain?

crude musk
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gloomborf

civic bramble
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Perfect lore

crude musk
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How many fucked up amidias images are there

civic bramble
cloud ibex
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too many

dusk laurel
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with every new amidias that is created it becomes less valuable

civic bramble
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Also what is that tag from?

long bloom
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just counted

civic bramble
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Damn

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There are too many…

long bloom
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we must get to 550

civic bramble
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I can do one more

thick slate
civic bramble
thick slate
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sscls

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context clues

civic bramble
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Oh

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Alright I am gonna go for now

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My attempt at it

civic bramble
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Chat time to write about lore in my chem exam next class

tropic oak
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happy birthday draedon

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happy 789th birthday old man

civic bramble
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So from what I understand in the doc

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Is that the reasons dragons became a thing was due to something caused the terrarian soul to shatter

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My question is that would some dragons soul could have been rejected?

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Or just not mixed well

split mortar
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We dunno

civic bramble
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Or did all dragons just have their soul auto-

split mortar
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No proof of such happening tho

civic bramble
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It could be fun to theorize what if these fragments were taken from different species

split mortar
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All our info on world soul stuff is in the yharon bestiary entry iirc

civic bramble
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That leads to my second question that I am having a bit of difficulty just understanding

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And that is how do people ascend without the terminus?

split mortar
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Same as with afaik
Via god the ritual
Terminus just somehow makes it a perfect one

wanton pendant
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The only requirements to ascend are to have a soul and do the ritual.
The Terminus is needed to do it perfectly.

civic bramble
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And the ritual is forgotten?

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Right?

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Or just not as common knowledge

wanton pendant
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Most who knew it were likely slain by Yharim.

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Quite a few probably personally.

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Since, you know. The gods would know.

civic bramble
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It will be so funny

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Wait

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Would it possible for the terrrarian to ascend if we could learn the ritual right?

cloud ibex
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in theory yes

wanton pendant
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If you go find Yharon's egg in the Aerie, go crazy.

crude light
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xeroc is a dead beat dad

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i am pooling this info from sources unknown

wanton pendant
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Xeroc likes to drink whiskey.
Source: Dude, trust me.

dusk laurel
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a very dead horse

civic bramble
civic bramble
warm gull
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xeroc killed yharim's grandpa

civic bramble
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Oh no… that’s why yharim killed all the gods

wheat walrus
civic bramble
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Thank you.

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And this is lore channel.

visual kiln
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EWUGHEORTnpgh

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why is mr balls here

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@crude light hello mr balls

civic bramble
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Ah azzy jump scare

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Anyways

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I honestly really like the ravager lore now..

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It is a bit complex but that’s great tbh

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Because ravager is a confusing amalgamation in a way

warm gull
wheat walrus
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so green

astral coyote
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How does the DoG talk

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Or like do taxes

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It doesn't have thumbs

dusk laurel
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personally i think he has a little scribe do allat for him

young socket
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well i dont think he does taxes

astral coyote
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How does it travel in battle

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Just wiggle

young socket
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yea

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flies

astral coyote
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Wiggle alongside yarims godseekers

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Oki

young socket
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he can also hide in the distortion as a sneak attack

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you can see this ingame and yharim talks about it in the signus whisper

astral coyote
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Yea

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Alrighty

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But

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How does he actually

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Idk talk or put on his armor

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Did the gigantic god eating worm just show up at yharims and be like heyyyy! Herd you needed a garbage disposal

civic bramble
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Like he goes to a pit stop

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Quickly fixes himself

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And comes back

upper warren
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DoG probably talks using telepathy, that ability doesn’t seem too uncommon in the world of calamity.

warm gull
real silo
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signus stealing the whispers

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unoriginal smh smh

civic bramble
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Hi alt

real silo
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Oh there is another

civic bramble
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Because the other one was hacked and even though it is retriev I don’t want to go back into it

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Anyways

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Back to lore

jaunty wraith
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Somthing came to mind

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Good gods become the hallow

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Evil gods become the corruption or crimson

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What if youre a neutral god? Either having a solid balance of good and evil on your resume or were so unremarkable as a god it made basiclly made no impact on the world

long bloom
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probably nothing

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no biome

cosmic zenith
cosmic zenith
crude musk
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Maybe Yharim just cleaned them up

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He lead cleaning efforts

cosmic zenith
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It's almost certain that some neutral or less morally distinct Gods got merged into the Hallow or evil biomes

civic bramble
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Maybe they could be the reasons some biomes spring up in unusual places?

cosmic zenith
civic bramble
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Like maybe a snow biome in the middle of a desert

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Because a god of ice died

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Instead of the biomes being evil or good it is their own domain

real glen
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Isn't that just corpse of ice dragon

civic bramble
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Becoming a biome

cosmic zenith
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God biomes are usually noticeably different from just normal biomes

civic bramble
jaunty wraith
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Wait so was it multiple gods who made tbe corruption and crimson or just the god of dogma and war who did?

civic bramble
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If like they are the god of frost

crude musk
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Also stip what happens if a dragon performs a ritual on a human soul

civic bramble
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There biome becomes almost impossible to enter as you would freeze rather instantly

crude musk
jaunty wraith
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There is no figure head of the hallow however

cosmic zenith
real glen
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Anyways Additional Names in calamity when
I know yharim has it but I need more

crude musk
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Also if a dragon rituals an auric soul, what would happen?

cosmic zenith
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There's literally no reason for a Dragon to absorb any souls that aren't Auric, and even harming another Auric Dragon was a massive taboo Dragons wouldn't break

If a Dragon rituals an Auric soul, then it would get a sizeable power boost and soul instability

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Human souls carry little power individually, which is why they aren't interesting subjects for the absorption ritual

civic bramble
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Stip, what if the biomes were like a biome that is influenced by both their domains but also the lifes influcne which live there? To tip it to one or the other side? Could that be reasonable thinking? For neutral gods?

cosmic zenith
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Auric souls are the main target because they are so incredibly powerful

crude musk
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And I assume the dragon that ate the soul keeps it's personality

jaunty wraith
cosmic zenith
cosmic zenith
civic bramble
crude musk
cosmic zenith
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Though it's currently unclear whether absorbing an Auric soul causes the respective Dragon to influence the God's personality

jaunty wraith
civic bramble
cosmic zenith
long bloom
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it's just a bad idea

civic bramble
crude musk
civic bramble
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:D

jaunty wraith
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The lore doc said no one has ever consumed 3 before

civic bramble
long bloom
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2 is more than 1

civic bramble
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But like it doesn’t stop u from if you get one

pulsar ocean
civic bramble
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Do you want to see if you can eat everything in calam?

pulsar ocean
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Maybe

jaunty wraith
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Interestingly said nothing about someone trying 2

crude musk
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Also stip what really are blessings

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Like Silva's blessings on jared and braelor

pulsar ocean
civic bramble
crude musk
civic bramble
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Hence these blessings can vastly exceed what the person normal limit would be in a way

civic bramble
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The one time I don’t fact check myself on the lore doc T^T

cosmic zenith
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  1. That's not how attunement works
  2. Blessing isn't known publically (to my knowledge) and I'm not gonna share it
crude musk
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Okay fair

cosmic zenith
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Not that we've discussed it extensively enough anyways

civic bramble
long bloom
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and stat buffs

jaunty wraith
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Can gods have children?

civic bramble
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This does lead to a question I am meaning to ask before any of you say ā€œThe terrarian lore is up to you!!ā€

I am actually geuinly wondering how does the terrarian able to use auric?

cosmic zenith
# cosmic zenith Though it's currently unclear whether absorbing an Auric soul causes the respect...

My personal opinion is that the Dragon's mind has no influence or presence on the God's, but the process of conquering the Dragon, ascending and wielding your newfound godly power is an inherently formative experience that impacts a God's personality

So it does have an effect on the God's personality, but it's more like how going through a traumatic event, or going through your first romance, impact personality

long bloom
cosmic zenith
civic bramble
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I was always curious before

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About this

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But thanks for the answer!

long bloom
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it tells you in one piece of obscure amidias dialogue

civic bramble
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Oh my god they are still writing

warm gull
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when you use yharo soul fragments its basically like completing the circuit and not letting the electricity flow through you

crude musk
civic bramble
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I only remember one another user taking this long and they are long gone but they would always cook

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So I trust stip to cook

civic bramble
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Thanks!

cosmic zenith
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Attunement is a state of spiritual resonance between beings
What I'm going to say is an analogy for what attunement is, don't take its elements literally

Basically, every soul has a sort of "song" unique to it, much like people have different voices
That "song" is the manifestation of the person's mind, personality and spiritual self
Attunement happens when two souls have such similar songs that they overlap and resonate with one another, giving the illusion that it's one song instead of two ("our souls were one", as Yharim puts it)
It's like finding someone whose voice is nearly identical to yours

Attunement allows attunees of Auric Dragons to use Auric metal because the Auric metal mistakes the person's soul "song" for their attuned Auric Dragon's, acknowledging the attunee as worthy

crude musk
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Can that "song" change

civic bramble
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And I stand corrected. Peak.

crude musk
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Or does it remain the same throughout your life

cosmic zenith
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Slightly

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Which is how Yharim attunes himself to Yharon after the lava dip

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Yharim is figuratively reborn just as much as Yharon is literally reborn

jaunty wraith
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The song is a manifestation of people's mind and personality

The song can totally change, I mean how many of us here are the same person we were 10 years ago?

crude musk
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Calamity baptism

crude musk
civic bramble
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In a figurative way

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But still like twins

jaunty wraith
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They can practically finish eachothers...

crude musk
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So how did the humans attune to dragons to be able to telepathically comunicate

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They just did it naturally based off the vibes?

cosmic zenith
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It's based on that spiritual resonance

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It's a magical phenomenon, of course, so it's not fully understood

crude musk
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Okay thank you for your answers

cosmic zenith
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No problem!

wanton pendant
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Yharim and Yharon have racist to racist communication... I should have known!

frank dune
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If yharim is completely covered in armor

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Can we just

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Cook him

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I mean via heat

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Make him melt inside his own suit

real glen
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??

split mortar
warm gull
random mulch
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Draedon installed a coffee machine into it too

thick slate
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doner meat thing

mighty zenith
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yharim

thick slate
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yea

crude musk
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Draedon definitely installed cameras and mics to spy on him too

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Well his visor is a camera so it's kinda obvious

pulsar ocean
random mulch
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Lore

frank dune
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Lore

frank dune
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If ykyk

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Armor can theoretically have same effect

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Auric does not give fire resist from what i remember

split mortar
# frank dune Armor can theoretically have same effect

Yeah ik
Just saying yharim will prob be able to survive the heat about as good as the armour
We will have strong heat weapons (photviscerator and lot of scal weapon) when we fight yharim and he wont die immediately

split mortar
crude musk
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What are ashes of annihilation

hushed jasper
crude musk
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Yeah but what are they

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Burnt people? Burnt weapons? Burnt pieces of calamitas?

woeful hatch
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I believe that's like, remains of Calamitas' magic?

crude musk
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She creates a lot of ashes from burning things

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Are they all enchanted?

spice torrent
random mulch
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Miracle matter sandwich

wanton pendant
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Obviously it's Catastrophe and Cataclysm's cremains. You monster.

split mortar
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The bear

frank dune
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How much can you power with 1kg of auric?

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I mean how much energy it contains

split mortar
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We dunno

wanton pendant
split mortar
wanton pendant
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Yeah, but I was making a bit of a joke.
The answer is of course, we don't know.
Nor do I know of how we could possibly measure it.

crude musk
split mortar
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Maybe just like actual ash from the fight lol

civic bramble
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Morning lore chat

frank dune
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Do brinstone flames add to the taste or have anh scent

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Aka if you grill a meat on it

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Specifically it

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Yeah

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Will it affect the said food?

hushed geyser
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Spicy

wanton pendant
civic bramble
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Everyone I have one question for all of you?

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What’s yall fav character in the lore?

balmy glacier
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yharon

woeful hatch
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Not for the better though

pulsar ocean
dusk laurel
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epic embed fails

balmy glacier
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embed catastrophe

balmy glacier
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embed catastrophe number 2

split mortar
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Nah i know embeds dont work

hoary cape
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Yes

wanton pendant
spice pawn
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Very bad

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It tastes like mustard gas

pulsar ocean
spice pawn
pulsar ocean
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damn

balmy glacier
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the terrarian’s lore is pingas

balmy glacier
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the terrarian’s lore is still pingas

civic bramble
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What’s yall opinion on dragons

icy veldt
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I hate them

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Dragons šŸ‘Ž

thick slate
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gods are way cooler

hushed jasper
spring helm
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why does ares have guts

cloud ibex
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stylistic choice

wanton pendant
spring helm
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truth nuke

crude light
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the lore is up to you🫵

pulsar ocean
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Why is the terror nuclear

wanton pendant
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Draedon ignored the legal code.

digital anchor
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Are the lyrics from Stained Brutal Calamity based off the older lore? I know one of the lyrics mentioned that she was sent by Yharim to kill the Terrarian.

I thought she renounced herself from him before she encounters us.

long bloom
digital anchor
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Aw shucks

long bloom
#

and yeah it was made like 6 years ago

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roar of the jungle dragon is still canon though

digital anchor
#

Even though the title says ā€œJungle Dragonā€ XD

digital anchor
long bloom
#

the rest of it is probably fine

civic bramble
#

Is anahita and brimmy the two bosses that you can fight multiple times and it would still makes sense to the lore?

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Like the rest u kill

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But you can’t kill

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Elementals

thick slate
#

scal

#

eoc

#

eow

#

boc

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king slime maybe

#

anything thats kinda just a creature/in many numbers

#

scal is a creature

long bloom
#

but there's many others that assumedly work

frank dune
#

Lore

agile matrix
#

i mean we can go down the list no

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ks lore refightable, eoc lore refightable, theres just a lot of them out there

#

is ds the term for the collective or is there only one

long bloom
#

unknown

agile matrix
#

cool: lore unrefightable

#

crabulon unrefightable

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uhhhh

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perfs unrefight, eow and boc refight

long bloom
#

crabulon might count, though extremely unlikely

agile matrix
#

its mentioned that the mushrooms specifically latched onto this crab

long bloom
#

there could've been two crabs

agile matrix
#

maybe

#

unlikely

#

what else

civic bramble
agile matrix
#

qb refightable

long bloom
#

hive mind no

#

wof no

agile matrix
#

skeletron yes

long bloom
#

slime god maybe??

long bloom
agile matrix
#

how so

long bloom
#

you free the old man from his curse

agile matrix
#

hmmm

#

fair

#

slime god yes

#

its just the dude and two slimes it scrounged up

#

wof no

#

cryogen no

long bloom
#

queen slime no

agile matrix
#

why not?

civic bramble
long bloom
#

so killing her also kills slime god

agile matrix
#

oh fr

#

neat

civic bramble
long bloom
#

that's what the crystal is

agile matrix
#

uhhhhhh

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all mechs no

long bloom
#

aqua scourge probably

agile matrix
#

maaybe

civic bramble
#

R: plantera probably not.

long bloom
#

brimmy probably

agile matrix
#

brimmy yes (she's been defeated before)

long bloom
#

calclone uhhhhh
??????????

agile matrix
#

calclone no

#

theres only supposedly one and that one is freed into the world

long bloom
#

well
she'll be an actual person you might be able to talk to in the future

agile matrix
#

plantera i think yes

long bloom
#

plantera is special

#

there's only one

civic bramble
#

R: Anahita Yea. Leviathan however?

long bloom
#

leviathan maybe

civic bramble
agile matrix
#

levi is funky: we see them in pieces

long bloom
civic bramble
#

R: continuing on PBG is a no most likely?

agile matrix
#

brg ?

long bloom
#

what

agile matrix
#

do you mean pbg?

civic bramble
#

R: Yes.

long bloom
#

uh
possibly

agile matrix
#

wouldnt think so ? there might be a lot

long bloom
#

probably not

#

golem no
eol no
duke yes

civic bramble
#

R: My bad on that as I have used those initials for something else. Causing my autocorrect to automatically switch it to that instead.

long bloom
#

ravager no
cultist no

#

deus no

civic bramble
#

R: Deus no

#

R: Ml no

agile matrix
#

why not deus?

#

doesnt he evaporate into stardust after you kill them

civic bramble
#

R: We don’t have any more species in terraria

#

R: If I recall correctly

long bloom
agile matrix
#

ahh i see

long bloom
#

also deus doesn't die
you cure it from the astral

agile matrix
#

guardians yes ?

long bloom
#

no

agile matrix
#

how not

long bloom
#

they're people now

civic bramble
#

R: DragonFolly yes

agile matrix
#

are they really or

long bloom
#

yeah

agile matrix
#

oh cool

long bloom
#

they're provi's polycule adventuring party

agile matrix
#

prov no

long bloom
#

that helped her kill zaelithar

agile matrix
#

uhhhhh old duke no

#

what other bosses are there.

long bloom
#

sentinels no

agile matrix
#

polterghast yes

#

dudes just a lot of very angry men

long bloom
#

no polterghast is also unique

civic bramble
#

R: Dog no

#

R: Scal yes.

long bloom
#

yharon yes if you wait 10 years

agile matrix
#

DoG no, Yharim no by time standard, SCal yes, Exos teeeeechnically not

civic bramble
#

R: Exos no unless draedron remakes them.

long bloom
#

which he probably won't

agile matrix
#

either draedon builds his shit back real fuckin fast or he just doesnt gaf

civic bramble
#

R: Jared no

long bloom
#

bossrush yeah i guess but why

agile matrix
#

boss rush teeeeechnically

#

all of the bosses there are, iirc, just mirages ?

civic bramble
#

R: I also have a question about leviathan.

long bloom
civic bramble
#

As a way to test the terrarian

civic bramble
long bloom
#

not really

civic bramble
#

Does that make it an extension of anahita?

long bloom
#

there's an in universe theory that she was created by anahita

#

but we'll never know

pulsar ocean
#

Does the devil from the bible beat xeroc

long bloom
#

yes

light moth
#

🤔

north root
#

lucifer is an actual fraud in the bible he has like 0.001% of a feat

pulsar ocean
split mortar
#

Thats lucifer from hazbin hotel not lucifer from bible

pulsar ocean
north root
#

hazbin hotel is written by vivziepop (prolific demon) and therefore it's biased

#

unreliable narrator

split mortar
#

In the bible lucifer dies to someone called micheal i think

split mortar
light moth
#

šŸ¦‰

north root
#

he goes into a lake of fire for all eternity at the end of revelation but he doesn't die

pulsar ocean
split mortar
#

Fnaf is a bible retelling got it

pulsar ocean
#

Scott was always a religious person

#

And fnaf is a bible retelling

latent bolt
#

I dont think FNAF is a bible retelling
far too many differences

pulsar ocean
glacial rampart
north root
#

technically lucifer isn't even in the bible but he's supposed to be the same character as satan who is in the bible, "the devil" is derived from 'diabolos' which is a translation of Satan

balmy glacier
#

the terrarian’s lore is up to pingas

pliant ruin
#

snooping as usual i see

balmy glacier
#

āœ… āœ… āœ…

stuck kernel
#

Snoo(ping as) THEROCK

mighty zenith
#

spaghetti

frosty charm
fleet nimbus
#

Is the torch god actually a god or just an entity that claims to be one?
Followup question what’s yharims favorite soda XD

#

Actually scratch the second discussion point his ass probably drinks club soda just to prove a point

dusk laurel
#
  1. entity
  2. we dunno
fleet nimbus
#

Ok cool that leads to more interesting discussion than ā€œyea its a god lmaoā€

#

I wonder if the calamity gods dislike torch ā€œgodā€ for those false claims, or if the torch god genuinely believes they are one even if they arent

split mortar
#

The only change to torch gods bestiary is that god/deity is being replaced with entity
Still could be a god or something entirely different maybe not even thinking
Or carbon monoxide poisoning
UP TO YOU

pale igloo
#

can we do that

#

in here

cloud ibex
#

it's being left entirely up to interpretation whether it is a real god or not

pale igloo
#

i feel like if scal never want to see permafrost like that

mighty zenith
#

well the problem is that

cloud ibex
#

she didn't

mighty zenith
#

the alternative was him dying

cloud ibex
#

but it was better than her having to kill him

mighty zenith
#

either preserve him in an ice prison so no one finds out, kill him herself or leave and yharim sends someone else to kill him

cloud ibex
#

he's ice grandpa he'll survive being frozen for a few years

mighty zenith
#

most likely DoG

pale igloo
#

"PERMAFROST, WHY ARE YOU Early hardmode boss that drop wings and gear that can be combined into a rogue gear"

wanton pendant
#

Permafrost isn't the boss.

#

Also Torch God is totally Xeroc.

gritty kraken
#

To think the scal froze him
Perma is such a great teacher

tropic oak
split mortar
strong notch
#

imagine torch god expansion mod

#

with actual quest related to it

pliant ruin
#

torch god carbon monoxide hallucination

split mortar
pliant ruin
#

its literally the best possible headcanon for it

dusk laurel
#

trully

zenith geode
#

true this is the one i subscribe to

split mortar
#

I sub to fire just kinda doing that like the moon kinda just sometimes becomes bloodied

pulsar ocean
#

like and subscribe

balmy glacier
#

no

icy veldt
digital anchor
#

Is Yharim’s title ā€œJungle Tyrantā€ outdated like Yharon’s ā€œJungle Dragonā€ former title?

balmy glacier
#

yuh

tropic oak
#

yes

balmy glacier
#

Yharim is now ā€œThe Godseekerā€

tropic oak
#

it is now The Godseeker and The Resplendent Phoenix

#

iirc

balmy glacier
#

āœ…

pliant ruin
#

Yeaj neither of them really has any association with the jungle anymore

#

arguably Tyrant still fits though

#

minus, yk

#

the jungle paret

wanton pendant
balmy glacier
#

āœ…

long bloom
#

didn't calamitas used to call him the lord

balmy glacier
#

prior to astral expansion update(1.4.0.001) yeah

digital anchor
#

I also know that DoG and Storm Weaver are from the Distortion. What about Signus and Ceaseless?

zenith geode
#

ceaseless is a portal TO the distortion

#

signus is another distortion creature but appears to be entirely independent

digital anchor
#

Was ceaseless in our world the whole time, Even before DoG’s entrance?

split mortar
#

Also may or may not be part this world if i remember some bestiary’s correct

split mortar
digital anchor
#

I’m just trying to think of that the other side looks like. Is there another ceaseless in the distortion that bridges to our world?

split mortar
digital anchor
#

Oh, wait is it a one way portal?

wanton pendant
#

Probably not.

#

It's just a door.

split mortar
#

I just said it wouldnt

wanton pendant
#

Do you count both sides of your door as different doors?

digital anchor
#

No

#

Mb

#

I was just curious how DoG came to our world if ceaseless is in our world.

split mortar
#

So can signus

long bloom
#

they're just much weaker than cv
obviously

split mortar
long bloom
#

the portals

digital anchor
#

Ah

#

So as of now the only known way out of the distortion is through these temporary rifts

long bloom
#

going through cv would be significantly easier

split mortar
long bloom
#

true

digital anchor
#

I also wonder if CV was active this whole time or if either used to be inactive at some point

long bloom
#

it's been chained in the archives for at least several centuries

tropic oak
#

hi

split mortar
#

CV is called ceaseless due to not ceasing
If it ever stopped being a portal then the energy that makes up the portal would be violently dispersed

long bloom
pliant ruin
#

In the future it's "fight" will literally just be you removing the seals, allowing you to enter it and use it as a portal

#

its gonna be how you go to the distorto

jaunty wraith
#

If hes the devourer of gods, and can devourer all gods, that must be terrifying

light linden
pliant ruin
#

that's not a joke you should be making here i don't think

pulsar ocean
crude light
#

what is a cosmic engineer

long bloom
crude light
#

ic

split mortar
pulsar ocean
#

Who’s the funky hologram guy in draedon labs

wanton pendant
#

Who's the guy whose name start with a D, ends with an N, and makes machines?

icy veldt
#

Da Engineer Gamin'?

hasty valley
wanton pendant
#

Who's the guy they're talking about?

icy veldt
#

Why is he dried on? Who dried on him?!

cosmic zenith
#

Man
It's both funny and tragic seeing people saying that new lore Yharim is a crybaby

#

What are y'all's thoughts on the matter?

dusk laurel
#

i dont see him as a crybaby i think thats akin to his perceived fondness of bees where its a flanderization of his character, but he definitely has more human traits than say the old lore's iteration of him

pliant ruin
#

It's flanderization imo yyeah

#

He's stubborn in his beliefs and has poor emotional responses to things

#

But saying he's a crybaby is taking those traits of his and pushing them to a comical extreme

#

Which, is the literal definition of lfanderization, so

#

He's not just brute force, he's got wits and brains too

#

But just like anyone, he has flaws (Beyond just being morally reprehensible, i mean. Flaws that are more so in regards to his personality rather than ideals)

#

And one of these flaws is being extremely set on his beliefs, which, a healthy amount of determination and confidence is good

#

but in his case it goes to a extreme and makes him unable to see alternatives as valid

#

and when that perception of his, and/or his ideals are challenged

#

He can react by lashing out

#

As seen with Draedon or Permafrost

#

Both of which "betrayed" him in his eyes

cosmic zenith
#

I will express my opinion here, but I will leave it as spoiled because I would like you guys to share your opinion without my influence

||I think both characters are human, but ironically, I think old lore Yharim was more of a crybaby - it was evident that he didn't really have a future, he simply sought to inflict to others the pain that he felt as a young man, and reacted poorly to opposition (like burning Amidias' kingdom, or imprisoning Permafrost).||
||New lore Yharim holds his pain in a much more collected manner, turning it into a burning desire for vengeance. He is a broken man, but not a shattered one. Instead of getting really frustrated and reacting very violently when met with a "no", he simply abuses his power to get things his way regardless - the exception being breaking Draedon's lab, and even then, couldn't he have gone for Draedon himself? His one gripe is slavery, which is very reasonable, but even how it is presented reflects the nuances of his past. But yeah, that part is heavily flanderized, and I wonder if it's partially our fault lol||

#

||Old lore Yharim just seems less of a crybaby because any vulnerability he displayed was shown as unreasonable rage, which is something people seem to enjoy at least||

pliant ruin
#

I will say that while i'm not saying like, you guys are immune to critique and nothing is ever your fault
I also think a significant amount of the misconceptions in regard to the lore is just because. alot of this community is composed of kids who aren't exactly the most media literate

#

This is still a terraria mod after all

#

If there's a conversation with someone that's clearly more mature and they're presenting critiques or misconceptions, then that's actually a good opportunity to reflect on whether maybe y'all did some things wrong

#

But i also think a majority of the community is either just

#

People who aren't exactly the most versed in reading which leads to misconceptions and mischaracterization, etc
And people who just don't interact much with the lore beyond a surface level, which lead to them only understandi ng things at a surface level

#

Terraria has alot of young people playing it

#

the same goes for calamity

eager bluff
#

theres also the (fairly large) chance that some people have misconceptions because... they just dont care about the lore and wont ever hear corrections out

pliant ruin
#

And people who just don't interact much with the lore beyond a surface level, which lead to them only understandi ng things at a surface level
Yeah as i said here

#

Not everyone is really gonna think too hard abt the lore

eager bluff
#

well not even that

#

they hear not even surface level thoughts, create their opinions based off that, and refuse to even go to that surface level

cosmic zenith
#

Fair points

wanton pendant
#

I mean, Yharim I would argue is someone who paints himself as a tragic figure, so I guess his propaganda wins yet again.
He can't keep getting away with this!

dusk laurel
#

blows you up

crude light
#

what the fuck is flanderization

wanton pendant
#

In early Simpsons, he was a religous, but friendly guy.
In later seasons he's often depicted as a religious zealot.

crude light
#

NED FLANDERS IS THE GO TO???

wanton pendant
#

Yes.

#

He was a bit more religious than the other characters, and it eventually became his defining character trait.

crude light
#

based on the usage of Flanders i was assuming it was used in the context of a character who went too religious 😭

tropic oak
#

my friend dodgedmusic made a song on yharim based on his old lore n people think yharim is actually that sad all the fucking time

civic bramble
#

I don’t believe that yharim is a crybaby ever to be honest. I believe he can be extremely petty at times. However, it is not crybaby levels.

wanton pendant
civic bramble
#

I do think his character (atleast to me) reflects more of a character that went the nuclear option with somewhat of a reason. Yet, it is still nuclear and his ability to not be able to change his perception probably stems from the fact that, he lost his ability to trust anybody with the sole exception of Yharon. As such I think he becomes paranoid especially because of the fact he was tossed in the lava. However, do his actions are the best choice? Ofcourse not. He could have listened but I can understand why he took this road. That’s why I like his character. He has reasons to doing this. However, the reasons are not enough to justify what he did to the innocents. Yet, him not being to handle people leaving I do believe stems from the idea that he is paranoid. Paranoid of them leaving then doing something that would end his crusade……

visual kiln
#

hiii

agile matrix
#

i just mentally put yharim down as stubborn to a critical fault, and unable to rectify his mistakes until it starts affecting him

jaunty wraith
#

Yharim talks about regret... but only regret as how it affected him

warm gull
#

sans would beat yharim in a battle cuz karma

jaunty wraith
#

What about calamitas?

#

Would karma effect her despite the circumstances of her actions

feral skiff
#

the reason why she wasn’t crying during the boss battle is because Yharim said it was a Good Thing

long bloom
jaunty wraith
#

It begs the question: why doesnt she try to hunt down and kill yharim herself?

long bloom
#

and he's literally the most powerful person in terraria

frosty charm
frosty charm
#

No reason to believe intent is factored in, you simply did those things

tropic oak
split mortar
#

Like what

#

She doesnt work for yharim and despises him now
And
She doesnt break down crying when she realises the player isnt yharim 2

feral skiff
#

i was JOKING

cloud ibex
#

Too late

#

You’re going in the pit of acid

thick slate
#

but only like acetic acid

#

youll just smell like vinegar forever

cloud ibex
#

No

zinc shore
#

if i throw an auric bar at calamitas, would she just burn

cloud ibex
#

Sulfuric

agile matrix
#

see its CALLED an acid but it isnt corrosive

thick slate
agile matrix
#

no

cloud ibex
agile matrix
#

like chemically acid

thick slate
#

there are two kinds of acid

#

organic acid and inorganic acid

#

thank you chemists

cloud ibex
#

Minus the getting up, wiping blood off of their nose and going ā€œheh…. Now it’s getting interestingā€ part

zinc shore
#

alright what if

#

she wore auric armor

thick slate
#

shed explode

zinc shore
#

would she just get fling from every direction at once to the point she'll be standing in place

thick slate
#

unless she ate some yhar

zinc shore
cloud ibex
#

If it’s the type we have, nothing I guess

#

I think auric Tesla makes you immune to rejection anyway I don’t play this game

thick slate
#

did elon musk invent auric tesla

agile matrix
#

this

cloud ibex
#

If it was pure auric she would be auric springlocked

agile matrix
#

is elon musk

zinc shore
#

what if you just keep throwing auric bars at calamitas mid fight? would she just get a headache from the flinging and leave?

agile matrix
#

this. is mamdani

thick slate
cloud ibex
#

Can you two not do this

agile matrix
# thick slate

mamdani over here like a moai and trump out here smiling like he's 20 again

thick slate
agile matrix
split mortar
agile matrix
#

here, lore question: is there any bosses that if i hit a boogie woogie they die

thick slate
#

polter

zinc shore
cloud ibex
#

Probably

thick slate
#

is refighting polter canon

cloud ibex
#

Personally I’d imagine not

thick slate
#

i imagine when we defeat them

split mortar
#

The shield i imagine would stop any kb from the auric you throw

thick slate
#

all the souls dissipate

#

and they coalesce again

cloud ibex
#

I feel like Polter is condensed enough and has been stewing for long enough that it couldn’t easily reform the instant you beat it

thick slate
#

fair

split mortar
zinc shore
#

so wait, a weapon made of auric would burn everything that can be burnt, and just fling anything that cant be burnt into outer space

cloud ibex
#

So it’s probably an exos type situation

split mortar
cloud ibex
#

You can in theory fight it again but you’d have to wait a while

zinc shore
#

aw

pulsar ocean
#

are alligators real

zinc shore
#

what if it was attuned

thick slate
zinc shore
thick slate
#

"is the sky green"

#

cmon man pay attention

split mortar
cloud ibex
#

But like

#

Good luck doing that

pulsar ocean
#

does yharon's soul water down the auric

split mortar
#

The only auric dragon to attune to is yharon who hates you so you cant really
Attune with em

pulsar ocean
split mortar
#

Because yharon is the last one

pulsar ocean
#

are you sure

split mortar
#

Yes

pulsar ocean
#

why didnt the auric dragon of time go back in time and tell the other dragons to not get slimed out

#

obviously there would be a dragon of time right

warm gull
#

the tyranny of lore discussion

zinc shore
#

be friendly with him

#

or make him think you're yharim

#

so that you can take his soul

split mortar
split mortar
zinc shore
#

hm

#

good question

split mortar
zinc shore
# split mortar Yharon wont listen

if you wait 10 years and try again and kill him if he tries to kill you then wait another 10 years and repeat the cycle, at one point he'll give up and listen to you

frosty charm
#

"just be nice to chicken Hitler" I don't think that'll work bro

zinc shore
zinc shore
frosty charm
zinc shore
#

"just spawn camp him"

zinc shore
split mortar
zinc shore
#

and if he explodes, wait another 10 year

split mortar
frosty charm
zinc shore
split mortar
#

HDfailure
Yeah no

frosty charm
#

Court on 23rd

zinc shore
#

damn

#

i mean yharon rebirthes every 10 years

#

so you could chase em

#

if he dies

#

wait another 10 years

#

if he dies again

#

wait another 10

#

at one point he'll get tired of you and listen

split mortar
#

Yeah but how long till age bites you

frosty charm
#

He's probably more patient than you and you aren't immortal

zinc shore
frosty charm
#

The only way to permanently cross him out is eat his soul afaik and not many ppl would tell you

zinc shore
frosty charm
frosty charm
#

SCal hates the both of them

split mortar