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correct
Yeah that sure is centuries plural
jellyfish can't use magic
Scal weakness
sad
Yeah they just do that
How can slime god use magic
ik i was just saying it before waterwraith did
can they?
The projectiles don't always seem like slime
Just slime I mean
But idk
I imagine moonlord is like super radioactive or something
You take a bite and fucking die to cancer and liquid organs
@wanton pendant they're tryna steal your thunder
well
it can control slime
so that probably helps
Moon lord probably tastes atrocious, something our tastebuds were never meant to encounter
Idk I'm thinking seafood
Cosmic seafood
foof
Oopsies
Discombobulating you.

Everything is edible once
Most of these things are rancid damn
could you eat the brimstone elemental
probably not
since they're just stone and fire
what evil fuck would want to eat a scourge
a starving fuck
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had an idea for plantera
plantera tea
why is the final fractal here
i'm just assuming it doesn't have one
Draedon: "Although the meat is a bit on the metallic side, the oil makes a mouthwatering gravy or lubricative vinaigrette."
gonna restart with the idea of the meal you can make from them and not just eating them plain
both slimes canonically taste good though
desert scourge would probably just be a steak of some kind, or the mandibles being hollowed out and stuffed with something
Slimegod drops pure gel so should be tasty
thats also after you beat it
Yeah and??
Were you going to eat them alive?
Messed up.
the lore says slime god doesnāt eat so how could it be impure
Got the scoog image?
...no?
One with all the public parts of the resprite
eyeballs are a delicacy in some cultures and you could probably cook the tendons
it wouldnt be very good
Yeah it doesnt eat those
Ah, I see. No.
but you could eat them nonetheless
yeah but it literally is those
What?
crimulan (crimstone) ebonian (ebonstone) the red and purple w/imagery of the biomes
The crimson and corruption are dead gods
Slime god is alive
The sprites just ancient as fuck rn
time is a flat circle
The paladins are not slime god
Slime god is just the core afaik
Which is pure gel
alr i'll put them with queen slime then
crabulon might taste good since you can brew mushrooms into healing potions, meaning with proper prep you wouldn't be infected
depends on how much crab is left
i wouldn't be surprised if all of it was hollowed out by the glowing shrooms
Been like 15 years theres no carb left i bet
this chat has went full circle
As it does
rotted so much that to avoid it people went back to boss tastes
its tragic really
this chat has never seen worse days i think
wow rude
At the very least eating Crabulon WON'T make you get eaten from the inside out.
then it's a matter of "how good does a prepared glowing mushroom taste"
what lore is there even to discuss
Ok fine lemme try getting this chat to theorise
Uhh
Whats something we dont have a theory on
Moonlords origins?
Calamitas' gambling addiction.
"hey i have a que-"
"read pins"
Did you read it though?
š true
Can you write a review?
Chat I wanted to ask this again why did Xeroc disquallify us?
Because you're not worthy.
Why is that
cuz hes sigma
if you don't have anything to add to a conversation then just don't say anything
Why are we not worthy? We do beat his challenge
Too weak i bet
I think its gonna be noxus related and will be replaced with a viable request once you actually can fight noxus
cause yharim aint out yet so we cant beat it
Oh true
because canonically we haven't beaten anyone that "truly" rivals him, and it's just a placeholder
No one rivals xeroc
its because xeroc isnt in the game
you get the point
assuming that whats being talked about is boss rush
isnt noxus strong like xeroc
Yuh
It's because YOU! (Terrarian is you) suck and Xeroc thinks you're unemployed (true).
Xeroc
Fovos
Noxus
Be an existential threat
Basically the fovos 2 that xeroc presumably fears happening again
threat to who
So would Xeroc be at the end of the boss rush?
Noxus has been Probably eating up divine essence so it's probably trying to become strong enough through that it could fight Xeroc
Maybe.
existential
Presumably the entire planet
i have more feats than xeroc
True.
Storywise, Noxus poses an existential threat, something that could once again bare its fangs at the world once more
Haii aster
maybe he should turn that frown upside down
this implies that noxus has actually done something
aster jumpscare
Why didn't xeroc kill ml
Oh hey aster hows it goin
Charon pfp
There is always a possibility of Noxus one day just
DoG and CV
Did he just see the pathetic state it was in and leave it be
I think the idea is that Noxus owuld be a threat in the same level as Fovos
Moon's Haunted Theory has the answer.
And do it over and over
Fovos is not an existential threat atm
Dangerfuck yes
Not
World ending
So that prob why
Xeroc probably has been going out of his way ot completely focus on Noxus
And after reading Xeroc lore I do believe more than it was probably an agreement between the dragon and zeratos
why did you say dangerfuck and not just dangerous
Dedicating each and every damn minute of it given
He didn't stop Yharim or Providence or Anyone Else
idk
holy shit aster appearance
True
Aster appears and they leave
Even in embers
Maybe the fear of fovos 2 is enough for em to let the squid suffer moon prison for eternity
use my godlike powers to help the planet i'm meant to protect? ā
force the goat to go through some challenge just to call them weak while i aura farm? ā
Yharim and xeroc auraboost the other
What if xeroc found a space council and he's forced to do politics all day
no xeroc does the reverse to yharim
xeroc negates yharim's aura
he absolutely mogs him
True!
I like the silly flawed sun god
I dislike the idea of ppl thinking heās flawless
heās. like clearly. not
Calls him the one mortal to make him doubt their own power no
True
"flawed" =/ "fraud"
Yharim and embers are good shows of such
Aster never called em fraud
You will be thrown
If Xeroc is a fraud than so is Al of calamity
Xeroc is as strong as strong can be effectively
the only other one who could potentially grow to rival that is a theoretical Noxus
By the end of their adventure
Or headcanon terrarian
P sure fraud is for when someone does not meet the hype or something
So
Stronger guy can be fraud while weaker ones not cause stronger is not as strong ss they make out to be
Thats what i think its used in anyways
No fraud can mean anything vaguely negative
Hey Xeroc is about to be another bullet heāll
Xeroc is kind of like gojo in the vein of
Killing you
Yharim was the faster
After Xeroc
Draedron is the smartest guy around
After xeroc
No?
It is the joke
We all know drae is the smartest
I hope
Draedron limit is science iirc
Wait let me fact check that
Ok it is implied from what I see
But I see it more as
He just like science and wants to use it hence he doesnāt wanna end the world
Still a smart guy
He doesnāt really have a limit though from what I see other than just resources I guess
Thatās. How I spelt it though?
I just shortened it to drae before
draedon š
What?
Anyways
dron
Whatās your fav domain?
gloomborf
Perfect lore
How many fucked up amidias images are there
Not enough
too many
i would disagree
with every new amidias that is created it becomes less valuable
we must get to 550
guess
Idk?
Wait. Oh
Oh
Alright I am gonna go for now
My attempt at it
Chat time to write about lore in my chem exam next class
So from what I understand in the doc
Is that the reasons dragons became a thing was due to something caused the terrarian soul to shatter
My question is that would some dragons soul could have been rejected?
Or just not mixed well
We dunno
Or did all dragons just have their soul auto-
No proof of such happening tho
Hmm Intresting
It could be fun to theorize what if these fragments were taken from different species
All our info on world soul stuff is in the yharon bestiary entry iirc
That leads to my second question that I am having a bit of difficulty just understanding
And that is how do people ascend without the terminus?
Same as with afaik
Via god the ritual
Terminus just somehow makes it a perfect one
The only requirements to ascend are to have a soul and do the ritual.
The Terminus is needed to do it perfectly.
Most who knew it were likely slain by Yharim.
Quite a few probably personally.
Since, you know. The gods would know.
Yea
It will be so funny
Wait
Would it possible for the terrrarian to ascend if we could learn the ritual right?
in theory yes
If you go find Yharon's egg in the Aerie, go crazy.
Xeroc likes to drink whiskey.
Source: Dude, trust me.
Hi horse
Tehehe
xeroc killed yharim's grandpa
Oh no⦠thatās why yharim killed all the gods
Can u not bring that up anymore
Thank you.
And this is lore channel.
Ah azzy jump scare
Anyways
I honestly really like the ravager lore now..
It is a bit complex but thatās great tbh
Because ravager is a confusing amalgamation in a way
so blue
so green
personally i think he has a little scribe do allat for him
well i dont think he does taxes
he can also hide in the distortion as a sneak attack
you can see this ingame and yharim talks about it in the signus whisper
Yea
Alrighty
But
How does he actually
Idk talk or put on his armor
Did the gigantic god eating worm just show up at yharims and be like heyyyy! Herd you needed a garbage disposal
I see it as like pit stops tbh
Like he goes to a pit stop
Quickly fixes himself
And comes back
DoG probably talks using telepathy, that ability doesnāt seem too uncommon in the world of calamity.
you mean the signus lore item
Hi alt
Oh there is another
This is my new main
Because the other one was hacked and even though it is retriev I donāt want to go back into it
Anyways
Back to lore
Somthing came to mind
Good gods become the hallow
Evil gods become the corruption or crimson
What if youre a neutral god? Either having a solid balance of good and evil on your resume or were so unremarkable as a god it made basiclly made no impact on the world
Of course not
It's not an unreasonable assumption to think there are other biomes sprung from undisposed God guts around the continent, and they might have more neutral Gods
It's almost certain that some neutral or less morally distinct Gods got merged into the Hallow or evil biomes
Maybe they could be the reasons some biomes spring up in unusual places?
For conquered cities
Like maybe a snow biome in the middle of a desert
Because a god of ice died
Instead of the biomes being evil or good it is their own domain
Isn't that just corpse of ice dragon
Becoming a biome
God biomes are usually noticeably different from just normal biomes
Thatās fair enough maybe they get some more mutated features?
Wait so was it multiple gods who made tbe corruption and crimson or just the god of dogma and war who did?
If like they are the god of frost
Also stip what happens if a dragon performs a ritual on a human soul
multiple bad gods
There biome becomes almost impossible to enter as you would freeze rather instantly
They are the figureheads of the biomes
Multiple Gods
There is no figure head of the hallow however
The Dragon gets a basically unnoticeable amount of power and its soul becomes very slightly more unstable
Anyways Additional Names in calamity when
I know yharim has it but I need more
So the base is more important than what you consume
Also if a dragon rituals an auric soul, what would happen?
There's literally no reason for a Dragon to absorb any souls that aren't Auric, and even harming another Auric Dragon was a massive taboo Dragons wouldn't break
If a Dragon rituals an Auric soul, then it would get a sizeable power boost and soul instability
Human souls carry little power individually, which is why they aren't interesting subjects for the absorption ritual
Stip, what if the biomes were like a biome that is influenced by both their domains but also the lifes influcne which live there? To tip it to one or the other side? Could that be reasonable thinking? For neutral gods?
Auric souls are the main target because they are so incredibly powerful
And I assume the dragon that ate the soul keeps it's personality
My undertale rot brain has a hard time comprehending weak human souls
...? Biomes are created from multiple God corpses, not just two
And the existing life does have influence, though it's more of a subject for the essence's mutation than an active force
It does, but then again, it loses a lot of soul stability
By both there I didnāt mean two gods I meant. Both
- theirs domain
- the life
Well auric souls are to human souls what human souls are to monster souls very broadly ig
Though it's currently unclear whether absorbing an Auric soul causes the respective Dragon to influence the God's personality
Well you cant consume more then 1
Oh interesting I never thought of it in that way
Then I already answered
The God essence has a lot more sway
Yea and thanks for that
Yeah, I'd imagine providence became worse but there's no confirmation
:D
The lore doc said no one has ever consumed 3 before
I mean yeaā¦.
2 is more than 1
But like it doesnāt stop u from if you get one
Are god essences tasty can we eat some
Kozz serious question
Do you want to see if you can eat everything in calam?
Maybe
Interestingly said nothing about someone trying 2
Why would dawgās boss eat them then
From what iirc they are āgiftsā of oneās soul to another being to share the domains. As such iirc only possible with gods and dragons
Something doesn't have to be tasty to be good for you
Hence these blessings can vastly exceed what the person normal limit would be in a way
that's attunement, not blessing
Wait⦠oh fuck did I confuse the two?
The one time I donāt fact check myself on the lore doc T^T
- That's not how attunement works
- Blessing isn't known publically (to my knowledge) and I'm not gonna share it
Okay fair
Not that we've discussed it extensively enough anyways
Ah my bad
Also I just checked and attunement do not give pieces of the domains only the ability to use auric.
and stat buffs
Can gods have children?
This does lead to a question I am meaning to ask before any of you say āThe terrarian lore is up to you!!ā
I am actually geuinly wondering how does the terrarian able to use auric?
My personal opinion is that the Dragon's mind has no influence or presence on the God's, but the process of conquering the Dragon, ascending and wielding your newfound godly power is an inherently formative experience that impacts a God's personality
So it does have an effect on the God's personality, but it's more like how going through a traumatic event, or going through your first romance, impact personality
you trick it into thinking you're attuned by using yharon soul fragments
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This, pretty much
Oh that makes a lot of sense
I was always curious before
About this
But thanks for the answer!
it tells you in one piece of obscure amidias dialogue
Oh my god they are still writing
when you use yharo soul fragments its basically like completing the circuit and not letting the electricity flow through you
*cooking
Mhm
I only remember one another user taking this long and they are long gone but they would always cook
So I trust stip to cook
Ah, thatās interesting
Thanks!
Attunement is a state of spiritual resonance between beings
What I'm going to say is an analogy for what attunement is, don't take its elements literally
Basically, every soul has a sort of "song" unique to it, much like people have different voices
That "song" is the manifestation of the person's mind, personality and spiritual self
Attunement happens when two souls have such similar songs that they overlap and resonate with one another, giving the illusion that it's one song instead of two ("our souls were one", as Yharim puts it)
It's like finding someone whose voice is nearly identical to yours
Attunement allows attunees of Auric Dragons to use Auric metal because the Auric metal mistakes the person's soul "song" for their attuned Auric Dragon's, acknowledging the attunee as worthy
I'd actually imagine it as the metal trying to ping your soul but hitting Yharon's fragments
Can that "song" change
And I stand corrected. Peak.
Or does it remain the same throughout your life
Yes
Slightly
Which is how Yharim attunes himself to Yharon after the lava dip
Yharim is figuratively reborn just as much as Yharon is literally reborn
The song is a manifestation of people's mind and personality
The song can totally change, I mean how many of us here are the same person we were 10 years ago?
Calamity baptism
I mean he didn't really say that but it would make sense too
I just see them as twins lowkey..
In a figurative way
But still like twins
They can practically finish eachothers...
So how did the humans attune to dragons to be able to telepathically comunicate
They just did it naturally based off the vibes?
It's based on that spiritual resonance
It's a magical phenomenon, of course, so it's not fully understood
Okay thank you for your answers
Thanks!
No problem!
Yharim and Yharon have racist to racist communication... I should have known!
If yharim is completely covered in armor
Can we just
Cook him
I mean via heat
Make him melt inside his own suit
??
Maybe but i imagine he is basically as heat resistant as his armour atp
ain't no way draedon didn't set up an A/C in that thing
šļø
šļø
Tru
Draedon installed a coffee machine into it too
doner meat thing
yharim
yea
Draedon definitely installed cameras and mics to spy on him too
Well his visor is a camera so it's kinda obvious
What does ts mean
Lore
Lore
Brazen bull
If ykyk
Armor can theoretically have same effect
Auric does not give fire resist from what i remember
Yeah ik
Just saying yharim will prob be able to survive the heat about as good as the armour
We will have strong heat weapons (photviscerator and lot of scal weapon) when we fight yharim and he wont die immediately
Wasnt saying yharim would survive due to the auric armour
What are ashes of annihilation
Looks like burning paper
I believe that's like, remains of Calamitas' magic?
i think it's supposed to be either burning incense or bits of Calamitas's magic
Miracle matter sandwich
Obviously it's Catastrophe and Cataclysm's cremains. You monster.
The bear
We dunno
Very vague question, since technically you can convert anything into energy.
I think he means the rejection?
Yeah, but I was making a bit of a joke.
The answer is of course, we don't know.
Nor do I know of how we could possibly measure it.
I mean she can infinitely generate them so they're not that valuable
Maybe just like actual ash from the fight lol
Morning lore chat
Do brinstone flames add to the taste or have anh scent
Aka if you grill a meat on it
Specifically it
Yeah
Will it affect the said food?
Spicy
It would probably smell and taste like sulphur.
So, not good.
Everyone I have one question for all of you?
Whatās yall fav character in the lore?
yharon
What does sulphur taste like
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embed catastrophe
embed catastrophe number 2
Nah i know embeds dont work
Is this biblically accurate
Yes
Try it and find out.
Is this our silkposting
have you tasted mustard gas
Unfortunately
damn
the terrarianās lore is pingas
the terrarianās lore is still pingas
Whatās yall opinion on dragons
gods are way cooler

why does ares have guts
stylistic choice
Because you need to have guts to be a war machine.
truth nuke
the lore is up to youš«µ
Why is the terror nuclear
Draedon ignored the legal code.
Are the lyrics from Stained Brutal Calamity based off the older lore? I know one of the lyrics mentioned that she was sent by Yharim to kill the Terrarian.
I thought she renounced herself from him before she encounters us.
stained brutal calamity is not canon
Aw shucks
and yeah it was made like 6 years ago
roar of the jungle dragon is still canon though
Even though the title says āJungle Dragonā 
Iām gonna use conformation bias and pretend I didnāt see this
the reasons it's not canon is because it states calamitas is working for yharim, which is no longer true, and it characterizes the terrarian
and as we all know...
the rest of it is probably fine
Is anahita and brimmy the two bosses that you can fight multiple times and it would still makes sense to the lore?
Like the rest u kill
But you canāt kill
Elementals
scal
eoc
eow
boc
king slime maybe
anything thats kinda just a creature/in many numbers
scal is a creature
the only explicitly canon refight is scal
but there's many others that assumedly work
Lore
i mean we can go down the list no
ks lore refightable, eoc lore refightable, theres just a lot of them out there
is ds the term for the collective or is there only one
unknown
cool: lore unrefightable
crabulon unrefightable
uhhhh
perfs unrefight, eow and boc refight
crabulon might count, though extremely unlikely
its mentioned that the mushrooms specifically latched onto this crab
there could've been two crabs
R: I thought he was a sole exception, as mushrooms grew onto the crab.
qb refightable
skeletron yes
slime god maybe??
no
how so
you free the old man from his curse
hmmm
fair
slime god yes
its just the dude and two slimes it scrounged up
wof no
cryogen no
queen slime no
why not?
R: I think the confusion comes from clothier and you can kill him to summon skeleton again. Which I believe is non canon
rogue paladin that ate slime god
so killing her also kills slime god
R: She ate slime god.
that's what the crystal is
aqua scourge probably
maaybe
R: plantera probably not.
brimmy probably
brimmy yes (she's been defeated before)
calclone uhhhhh
??????????
well
she'll be an actual person you might be able to talk to in the future
plantera i think yes
R: Anahita Yea. Leviathan however?
leviathan maybe
R: Oh really why is that?
levi is funky: we see them in pieces
read lore item
R: Alright will do after we are done with this.
R: continuing on PBG is a no most likely?
brg ?
what
do you mean pbg?
R: Yes.
uh
possibly
wouldnt think so ? there might be a lot
R: My bad on that as I have used those initials for something else. Causing my autocorrect to automatically switch it to that instead.
while deus is probably one of a species, it has a very unique circumstance for being on terraria
ahh i see
also deus doesn't die
you cure it from the astral
guardians yes ?
no
how not
they're people now
R: DragonFolly yes
are they really or
yeah
oh cool
they're provi's polycule adventuring party
prov no
that helped her kill zaelithar
sentinels no
no polterghast is also unique
yharon yes if you wait 10 years
DoG no, Yharim no by time standard, SCal yes, Exos teeeeechnically not
R: Exos no unless draedron remakes them.
which he probably won't
either draedon builds his shit back real fuckin fast or he just doesnt gaf
R: Jared no
bossrush yeah i guess but why
R: I also have a question about leviathan.
hardlight i think
R: Light clones created by Xeroc themselves
As a way to test the terrarian
R: It beastiry I believe, says that it just had appeared from nothing.
not really
Does that make it an extension of anahita?
Does the devil from the bible beat xeroc
yes
Does anyone remember the being called ādevil from the bibleā in Calamity lore?-
Or does anyone remember being called āXerocā in the bible?-
š¤”
no
lucifer is an actual fraud in the bible he has like 0.001% of a feat
I saw lucifer in hazbin hotel heās second to only God
Thats lucifer from hazbin hotel not lucifer from bible
Same thing
hazbin hotel is written by vivziepop (prolific demon) and therefore it's biased
unreliable narrator
In the bible lucifer dies to someone called micheal i think
True
š¦
lucifer doesn't die in the bible since he's immortal
he goes into a lake of fire for all eternity at the end of revelation but he doesn't die
Like the guy from fnaf
Fnaf is a bible retelling got it
It all makes sense nowā¦
Scott was always a religious person
And fnaf is a bible retelling
I dont think FNAF is a bible retelling
far too many differences
Michael burns down his own father which is the devil
isnt lucifer and the devil different beings in the bible
no
technically lucifer isn't even in the bible but he's supposed to be the same character as satan who is in the bible, "the devil" is derived from 'diabolos' which is a translation of Satan
the terrarianās lore is up to pingas
snooping as usual i see
ā ā ā
Snoo(ping as) 
spaghetti
Hazbin hotel: gifted power
Unreliable narrator: pure effort
Is the torch god actually a god or just an entity that claims to be one?
Followup question whatās yharims favorite soda 
Actually scratch the second discussion point his ass probably drinks club soda just to prove a point
- entity
- we dunno
Ok cool that leads to more interesting discussion than āyea its a god lmaoā
I wonder if the calamity gods dislike torch āgodā for those false claims, or if the torch god genuinely believes they are one even if they arent
The only change to torch gods bestiary is that god/deity is being replaced with entity
Still could be a god or something entirely different maybe not even thinking
Or carbon monoxide poisoning
UP TO YOU
both are unknown
it's being left entirely up to interpretation whether it is a real god or not
i feel like if scal never want to see permafrost like that
well the problem is that
she didn't
the alternative was him dying
but it was better than her having to kill him
either preserve him in an ice prison so no one finds out, kill him herself or leave and yharim sends someone else to kill him
he's ice grandpa he'll survive being frozen for a few years
most likely DoG
"PERMAFROST, WHY ARE YOU Early hardmode boss that drop wings and gear that can be combined into a rogue gear"
To think the scal froze him
Perma is such a great teacher
tbf it would be really funny if it was a god
Whether TORCH GOD is a god is up to YOU
torch god carbon monoxide hallucination
I will throw you
its literally the best possible headcanon for it
trully
true this is the one i subscribe to
I sub to fire just kinda doing that like the moon kinda just sometimes becomes bloodied
like and subscribe
no
What if the "real world" that we're all in is just a carbon monoxide hallucination, caused by all of us breathing in the fumes from Azafure getting razed by Brimmy and Cal?
Is Yharimās title āJungle Tyrantā outdated like Yharonās āJungle Dragonā former title?
yuh
yes
Yharim is now āThe Godseekerā
ā
Yeaj neither of them really has any association with the jungle anymore
arguably Tyrant still fits though
minus, yk
the jungle paret
Also Golden Heretic, according to Amidias.
ā
didn't calamitas used to call him the lord
prior to astral expansion update(1.4.0.001) yeah
I also know that DoG and Storm Weaver are from the Distortion. What about Signus and Ceaseless?
ceaseless is a portal TO the distortion
signus is another distortion creature but appears to be entirely independent
Was ceaseless in our world the whole time, Even before DoGās entrance?
Also may or may not be part this world if i remember some bestiaryās correct
Dog is a couple decades old afaik
CV is solidly from sometime in the dragon era which ended hundreds of years ago and has no known upper limit to how long it lasted
Iām just trying to think of that the other side looks like. Is there another ceaseless in the distortion that bridges to our world?
What? Ceaseless would just be able to be entered on both ends
Oh, wait is it a one way portal?
I just said it wouldnt
Do you count both sides of your door as different doors?
No
Mb
I was just curious how DoG came to our world if ceaseless is in our world.
DoG can open temporary portals
So can signus
they're just much weaker than cv
obviously
Whuh
the portals
Ah
So as of now the only known way out of the distortion is through these temporary rifts
going through cv would be significantly easier
Which until we defeat CV has spell runes that prob would have it maul stuff to death
true
I also wonder if CV was active this whole time or if either used to be inactive at some point
it's been chained in the archives for at least several centuries
hi
CV is called ceaseless due to not ceasing
If it ever stopped being a portal then the energy that makes up the portal would be violently dispersed
hello john "not bubbercups" xeroc
Currently it's sealed so it can't really be used
In the future it's "fight" will literally just be you removing the seals, allowing you to enter it and use it as a portal
its gonna be how you go to the distorto
If hes the devourer of gods, and can devourer all gods, that must be terrifying

that's not a joke you should be making here i don't think
what is a cosmic engineer
not canon
ic
Infernum title for draedon
Whoās the funky hologram guy in draedon labs
draedon
Who's the guy whose name start with a D, ends with an N, and makes machines?
Da Engineer Gamin'?
Ts is taking me out
Who's the guy they're talking about?
Why is he dried on? Who dried on him?!
Man
It's both funny and tragic seeing people saying that new lore Yharim is a crybaby
What are y'all's thoughts on the matter?
i dont see him as a crybaby i think thats akin to his perceived fondness of bees where its a flanderization of his character, but he definitely has more human traits than say the old lore's iteration of him
It's flanderization imo yyeah
He's stubborn in his beliefs and has poor emotional responses to things
But saying he's a crybaby is taking those traits of his and pushing them to a comical extreme
Which, is the literal definition of lfanderization, so
He's not just brute force, he's got wits and brains too
But just like anyone, he has flaws (Beyond just being morally reprehensible, i mean. Flaws that are more so in regards to his personality rather than ideals)
And one of these flaws is being extremely set on his beliefs, which, a healthy amount of determination and confidence is good
but in his case it goes to a extreme and makes him unable to see alternatives as valid
and when that perception of his, and/or his ideals are challenged
He can react by lashing out
As seen with Draedon or Permafrost
Both of which "betrayed" him in his eyes
I will express my opinion here, but I will leave it as spoiled because I would like you guys to share your opinion without my influence
||I think both characters are human, but ironically, I think old lore Yharim was more of a crybaby - it was evident that he didn't really have a future, he simply sought to inflict to others the pain that he felt as a young man, and reacted poorly to opposition (like burning Amidias' kingdom, or imprisoning Permafrost).||
||New lore Yharim holds his pain in a much more collected manner, turning it into a burning desire for vengeance. He is a broken man, but not a shattered one. Instead of getting really frustrated and reacting very violently when met with a "no", he simply abuses his power to get things his way regardless - the exception being breaking Draedon's lab, and even then, couldn't he have gone for Draedon himself? His one gripe is slavery, which is very reasonable, but even how it is presented reflects the nuances of his past. But yeah, that part is heavily flanderized, and I wonder if it's partially our fault lol||
||Old lore Yharim just seems less of a crybaby because any vulnerability he displayed was shown as unreasonable rage, which is something people seem to enjoy at least||
I will say that while i'm not saying like, you guys are immune to critique and nothing is ever your fault
I also think a significant amount of the misconceptions in regard to the lore is just because. alot of this community is composed of kids who aren't exactly the most media literate
This is still a terraria mod after all
If there's a conversation with someone that's clearly more mature and they're presenting critiques or misconceptions, then that's actually a good opportunity to reflect on whether maybe y'all did some things wrong
But i also think a majority of the community is either just
People who aren't exactly the most versed in reading which leads to misconceptions and mischaracterization, etc
And people who just don't interact much with the lore beyond a surface level, which lead to them only understandi ng things at a surface level
Terraria has alot of young people playing it
the same goes for calamity
theres also the (fairly large) chance that some people have misconceptions because... they just dont care about the lore and wont ever hear corrections out
And people who just don't interact much with the lore beyond a surface level, which lead to them only understandi ng things at a surface level
Yeah as i said here
Not everyone is really gonna think too hard abt the lore
well not even that
they hear not even surface level thoughts, create their opinions based off that, and refuse to even go to that surface level
Fair points
I mean, Yharim I would argue is someone who paints himself as a tragic figure, so I guess his propaganda wins yet again.
He can't keep getting away with this!
blows you up
what the fuck is flanderization
It's where a character trait gets exaggerated as time goes on.
Like Ned Flanders.
In early Simpsons, he was a religous, but friendly guy.
In later seasons he's often depicted as a religious zealot.
NED FLANDERS IS THE GO TO???
Yes.
He was a bit more religious than the other characters, and it eventually became his defining character trait.
based on the usage of Flanders i was assuming it was used in the context of a character who went too religious š
misinterpretation is a big factor imo
my friend dodgedmusic made a song on yharim based on his old lore n people think yharim is actually that sad all the fucking time
I donāt believe that yharim is a crybaby ever to be honest. I believe he can be extremely petty at times. However, it is not crybaby levels.
I mean, that IS the go-to example.
I do think his character (atleast to me) reflects more of a character that went the nuclear option with somewhat of a reason. Yet, it is still nuclear and his ability to not be able to change his perception probably stems from the fact that, he lost his ability to trust anybody with the sole exception of Yharon. As such I think he becomes paranoid especially because of the fact he was tossed in the lava. However, do his actions are the best choice? Ofcourse not. He could have listened but I can understand why he took this road. Thatās why I like his character. He has reasons to doing this. However, the reasons are not enough to justify what he did to the innocents. Yet, him not being to handle people leaving I do believe stems from the idea that he is paranoid. Paranoid of them leaving then doing something that would end his crusadeā¦ā¦
hiii
i just mentally put yharim down as stubborn to a critical fault, and unable to rectify his mistakes until it starts affecting him
Yharim talks about regret... but only regret as how it affected him
sans would beat yharim in a battle cuz karma
What about calamitas?
Would karma effect her despite the circumstances of her actions
if she did a bad thing then calamitas would start crying profusely
the reason why she wasnāt crying during the boss battle is because Yharim said it was a Good Thing
she fucking despises yharim by the time we fight her
It begs the question: why doesnt she try to hunt down and kill yharim herself?
trauma
and he's literally the most powerful person in terraria
He's definitely dramatic in his wording but he doesn't seem like a crybaby
He's had a while to reflect on what he's done and his worst words towards himself is basically "oopsie daisy"
Yeah since she still did those things
No reason to believe intent is factored in, you simply did those things
i dont think the dude has the capacity to regret other than calamitas 
What in the fuck are you on about
Like what
She doesnt work for yharim and despises him now
And
She doesnt break down crying when she realises the player isnt yharim 2
i was JOKING
No
if i throw an auric bar at calamitas, would she just burn
Sulfuric
see its CALLED an acid but it isnt corrosive
like the drug
no
She would be knocked away like an anime character at the start of a fight
like chemically acid
Minus the getting up, wiping blood off of their nose and going āhehā¦. Now itās getting interestingā part
damn
she would just leave after lmao
alright what if
she wore auric armor
shed explode
would she just get fling from every direction at once to the point she'll be standing in place
unless she ate some yhar
ah
If itās the type we have, nothing I guess
I think auric Tesla makes you immune to rejection anyway I donāt play this game
did elon musk invent auric tesla
this
If it was pure auric she would be auric springlocked
is elon musk
what if you just keep throwing auric bars at calamitas mid fight? would she just get a headache from the flinging and leave?
this. is mamdani
we do this
Can you two not do this
mamdani over here like a moai and trump out here smiling like he's 20 again
gulp
praying hand emoji
The shield in the fight would block auric from knocking her around and actual weapons are a better damage source
here, lore question: is there any bosses that if i hit a boogie woogie they die
polter
if it does fling her, what if the arena was just auric bars? would she keep flinging around like in a room made of trampolins until she gives up?
Probably
is refighting polter canon
Personally Iād imagine not
i imagine when we defeat them
The shield i imagine would stop any kb from the auric you throw
I feel like Polter is condensed enough and has been stewing for long enough that it couldnāt easily reform the instant you beat it
fair
If you hit her without it she is dying
so wait, a weapon made of auric would burn everything that can be burnt, and just fling anything that cant be burnt into outer space
So itās probably an exos type situation
A weapon made out of normal auric
We use mock attuned auric which cant reject things
You can in theory fight it again but youād have to wait a while
aw
are alligators real
what if it was attuned
no
you're asking the right questions
The metal isnt what attunes its people
An attuned person can use auric and not get rejected in any way
If you were attuned you could use pure auric
But like
Good luck doing that
does yharon's soul water down the auric
The only auric dragon to attune to is yharon who hates you so you cant really
Attune with em
how do you know an auric dragon ready to get attuned with you isnt right behind you
Because yharon is the last one
are you sure
Yes
why didnt the auric dragon of time go back in time and tell the other dragons to not get slimed out
obviously there would be a dragon of time right
the tyranny of lore discussion
what if you chat with him
be friendly with him
or make him think you're yharim
so that you can take his soul
Yharon wont listen
How do you do that when yharon talks to yharim telepathically due to attunement meaning you cant hear yharon
And yharim is like 8-9 foot tall
if you wait 10 years and try again and kill him if he tries to kill you then wait another 10 years and repeat the cycle, at one point he'll give up and listen to you
"just be nice to chicken Hitler" I don't think that'll work bro
though yharim was 6 feet š
at one point it will (maybe)
You don't wipe out half of the planet with empathy
"just spawn camp him"
wont hurt to try
Nah theres the other options like suicide or just running away from you
chase em
and if he explodes, wait another 10 year
Thats not how you get someone to listen to you
Hold on let me try this on my crush
"i am here to talk to you, do not resist."

Yeah no
Court on 23rd
damn
i mean yharon rebirthes every 10 years
so you could chase em
if he dies
wait another 10 years
if he dies again
wait another 10
at one point he'll get tired of you and listen
Yeah but how long till age bites you
He's probably more patient than you and you aren't immortal
i am convinced terrarian is immortal by now, look at the shit terrarian does
The only way to permanently cross him out is eat his soul afaik and not many ppl would tell you
what if you ask scal to talk to him
Cal Terrarian scaling is way lower
They're gonna argue at best and yharons dying at worst
SCal hates the both of them
Yharim is of similar caliber with what we do in game and can succumb to age