#lore-discussion

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glacial rampart
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"what the fuck happened to this hog"

pliant ruin
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PLEASE

split mortar
dusk laurel
wheat walrus
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the hogs are invading

pliant ruin
glacial rampart
frank dune
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Smth smh tommorow

split mortar
balmy glacier
frank dune
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Drink sweeper fuel

latent bolt
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lore discussion has a normal one

long bloom
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many such cases

pulsar ocean
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is it true that snakes had legs and jordans before god took them away

wanton pendant
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According to The Bible (not canon to Calamity), yes and no.
No one can own a river, silly.

hoary cape
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Technically a lot of snakes still have legs

wanton pendant
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Keys?
So they can get into your house?

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St. Patrick was right.

hoary cape
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Yes how else do you just find them chilling in your house

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A majority of snakes have hind legs

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But they are just a little claw for helping them climb

frank dune
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tommorow is

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tommorow

pearl halo
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tomorow

icy veldt
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If Yharon were Finnish, would he be Uharon or Yhärön?

pearl halo
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If Yharon were spanish surely it would be named "Barón"

zenith geode
frank dune
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Can u make sushi outa the

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aqua scourge

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maybe desert scourge even

split mortar
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They are not fish so i dont think so

crimson junco
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Sushi isn't all fish

burnt leaf
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yeah shrimp sushi exists

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and squids

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both aren't fish so i mean

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probably

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people eat reptiles in places so

dusk laurel
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kiri is the public's enemy

pulsar ocean
thick slate
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sushi is rice

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rice isnt fish

frosty charm
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gatekeeping twit

split mortar
frosty charm
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i need to write xeroc dialogue but i fucking suck at dialogue fuuuccckk

frosty charm
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did anyone live at the abyss (we see chests and house-like structures) or are those just there because silva thought it'd be cool

split mortar
young socket
frosty charm
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right

young socket
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all the chests are now just on the islands

frosty charm
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i havent played w/o infernum in a minute so

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lol!

long bloom
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where'd that come from

split mortar
frosty charm
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noxus is logically the strongest non xeroc boss

long bloom
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idk
something else

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my brain just didn't go there apparently

split mortar
frosty charm
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can't wait for xeroc to continue gatekeeping his proposition because he's the honored one or something

hybrid barn
long bloom
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yeah

wanton pendant
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It's totally because they're too scared.
I'll mess 'em up.
Fight me, you Teletubby cameo wannabee!

agile matrix
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is there any canon voices for any of the big main important bosses

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and or important characters

cloud ibex
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no but a handful of devs have imagined draedon sounding like samuel hayden and there was that one time he was voiced by gianni

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i think scal having a spanish accent is a neat idea

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(although founded on literally nothing other than "azafure" being based on a spanish word)

agile matrix
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work with me on this one: draedon sounds like AM's monologue, but if am was not insane nor mentally broken

agile matrix
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i could see her being spanish

cloud ibex
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a little overly intense for draedon i think

agile matrix
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either that or ultron but ultron is just a endall beall for "robot that is smart"

fluid cargo
icy veldt
wanton pendant
wanton pendant
wanton pendant
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The British.

fluid cargo
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whats wrong with the british..

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:c

wanton pendant
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In 1066, William of Normandy laid claim to the throne of England.

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That's not what they called him though...

dusk laurel
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only a french person would remember the year they successfully invaded england

wanton pendant
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I WASN'T THERE!

young socket
dusk laurel
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who r u

crimson junco
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Wrong channel oops

hoary cape
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obliterating your spinal cord

magic epoch
thick slate
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doesbt taste that bad actually

sinful adder
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Er

wanton pendant
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Draedon probably thinks everyone is stupid.
Then again, maybe it's more so a philosophy thing. Since Ultron is a robot supremacist, I can see why Draedon would look down on him.

north root
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i can still read them you know

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you can't hide from me pikmin enemy #530785166122287114

wanton pendant
# north root why are you crossing out your messages

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frozen arrow
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Bruh

unreal tiger
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Entry number seventeen

timber bough
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i just gleaned at the pinned doc

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god of war...

timber bough
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hi there minos

pulsar ocean
wanton pendant
pulsar ocean
wanton pendant
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It's Friday.

pulsar ocean
timber bough
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kratos messi

split mortar
frank dune
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Today is

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Today

limpid saddle
# frank dune Today

is your pfp a screenshot from that fuckass 'which limbus characters would go to agartha' video

frank dune
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Which Calamity mod character would go to Agatha?

balmy glacier
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agatha who?

thick slate
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agartha

balmy glacier
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eh… onyx

thick slate
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whar

limpid saddle
frank dune
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Uhhhhhhh

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Bleh

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Fuck

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Dictatorship server pwk

limpid saddle
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permafrost?

frank dune
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Youre on kos list bud

thick slate
limpid saddle
limpid saddle
thick slate
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fair

limpid saddle
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we DO know the God of War is white though

thick slate
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he shares some traits with nazis so hes close enough

frank dune
thick slate
limpid saddle
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oh & braelor but idk if psycho-zionist mfs accept gay people

limpid saddle
pulsar ocean
frank dune
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Lore

agile matrix
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read through the lore doc

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i love how the abyss is canonically why azafure did so well

frank dune
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Loreful

pulsar ocean
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would draedon be the best at videogames like a TAS

thick slate
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no hes noob

pulsar ocean
frank dune
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would you rather have

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1$

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or 2$

thick slate
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would you rather have a billion dollars now

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or 1 dollar every day

cloud ibex
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a billion dollars is just a billion dollars

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but a dollar a day? if you wait long enough, it could be anything

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it could even be a billion dollars

wanton pendant
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Yeah, but like, a billion days is like, three years. That's ages.

random mulch
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would look up how long a human life is in days to make a funny quip but i know it would only fill me with primordial dread ultimatesmug

frozen zodiac
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primordial? like,

pulsar ocean
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profit

long bloom
pulsar ocean
long bloom
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i can't read i'm an undertale fan

lusty prairie
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I'd take the billion dollars

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Even if you got payed multiple dollars ever hour since Christ was born, you still wouldn't have 1 billion dollars now

abstract hedge
pliant ruin
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guys this isnt very loreous

abstract hedge
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Draedon is probably the equivalent of a billionaire so it actually is.

icy veldt
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What if Calamitas had a billion dollars?

abstract hedge
pliant ruin
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crucification imminent

lusty prairie
abstract hedge
pliant ruin
abstract hedge
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I don't think doing those is legal anymore.

split mortar
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Can we go to actually important lore like the terrarian

zenith geode
pliant ruin
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not the terrarian

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that's you

split mortar
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Reign of yharim

pliant ruin
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Where's my

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my one theory i had a while back

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where is it

split mortar
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Weaver?

lusty prairie
split mortar
pliant ruin
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this one

abstract hedge
pliant ruin
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you

lusty prairie
# pliant ruin

As far as I'm concerned that's canon until proven otherwise

pliant ruin
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Yeah i mean, a god's soul is just theirs + the auric soul, so naturally

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if the god already was similar to the dragon as is

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easy to deduce the domain wouldn't have much reason to change since its kinda just more of the same

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thus leading to smth like otonilou and vetrasyl where their domains r p similar

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it does make you wonder, if this theory were to be correct about what the domain changes in gods can tell us about their personalities

split mortar
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Fire to ash for provi
Both dickheads

pliant ruin
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Zaelithar having flame could means he wanted to "keep the fire alive", metaphorically, to see it burn ever brighter

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As for Provi it's kinda obvious, Ash because, well, she dosen't want to keep the fire burning brighter

icy veldt
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Hmm, I think the "flame -> ashes" thing for Provi more implies that, deep down, she's just really sad

pliant ruin
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She wants the fire to die out, for everything to be turned into ash

wanton pendant
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Ashes to ashes.

icy veldt
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^ Ultimate, world-ending despair pretty much 😿

cloud ibex
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i do like to imagine prov being like

icy veldt
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A cat XD

cloud ibex
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very emotionally muted and somber in the way she talks

pliant ruin
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Tides > Sea makes me wonder

cloud ibex
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shut up bro!!! you're weird!!!!!!

split mortar
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We do know that provi wont kill herself due to embers

pliant ruin
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Maybe Tyrian was, despite being a generally benevolent guy from the looks of it

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Very like, proactive, maybe even violent to some extent

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Because the Sea generally implies something grander, more unruly and powerful than Tides

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Tides for me seems to lean more into the sort of

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calm, serene waves that the sea makes near its shores

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while in my head

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Sea seems to imply more the raging endless expanse of the ocean

split mortar
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Tyrian used to be a pirate

pliant ruin
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Not a BAD guy

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But very stern, a great fighter, able to take the lead when needed

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while maybe the dragon ot tides was more calm and serene

split mortar
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Dragon ot dies

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Dragon of dies

pliant ruin
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😭

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legendary typo

icy veldt
tropic oak
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dragon of

wanton pendant
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Dragon of Tides?
What causes tides?
The Moon.
Thus...
Dragon of Tides can control the moon.
That's how they sealed Moon Lord.

dusk laurel
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im gonna kill you

pliant ruin
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same yeah

split mortar
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Dragon of night would be better for moon control

icy veldt
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What if Provi ascended with the soul of the Dragon of Lions instead? Would she have become the Goddess of Cats?

wanton pendant
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No.

cloud ibex
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can you stop with the whole providence cat thing

wanton pendant
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Probably like, I don't know, Hunting because she kills you.

cloud ibex
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it's kinda Annoying when you forcefully insert it into Every Single Conversation You're In

icy veldt
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Fiiiine, I'll tone it down

long bloom
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i don't think anybody's found it funny a single time

icy veldt
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...okay?

pliant ruin
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and it also makes alot of sense with john dogma

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dragon of faith, dogma's faith was broken, so "faith" ends up just being means to an end for him, thus becoming dogma

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because i man that'sw what dogma is

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using other's faith as a tool to get them to do what you want

icy veldt
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So what was the Dragon of Faith itself, then?

pliant ruin
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faith was probably a very kind dragon i imagine

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meanwhile dogma is... dogma

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manipulative, controlling, authoritarian and such

icy veldt
pliant ruin
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i will ignore any comments of yours pertraining ot dragons its been established you're racist

icy veldt
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Darn PensiveCore

long bloom
split mortar
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Nuclear autism master doc

icy veldt
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That is way too generous a description of Draconic tyranny

split mortar
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What if i turn your organs off

dusk laurel
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avitus user

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👎

long bloom
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into the eel pit with you

pliant ruin
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with that said heres some of my personal guesses on dragon morality. Vetrasyl and Zaelithar excluded bc we know those (Very Nice guy and Very Not Nice guy)

Zeratros - Lawful neutral type guy. Not necessarily always benevolent but overall wants to keep the world in order, not evil but can also do some things that may seem unecessarily cruel for the greater good

Frost - I like to think he was a major loner. Not outright evil, but much like the cold, bitter and harsh. Wouldn't go out of his way to Be Evil and Kill People or anything, but if you suddenly approached him he might tell you to fuck off, and if you don't you might get frozen.

Tides - This one is interesting because Tyrian absorbed their soul. Tyrian as far as we know was a benevolent god, and while Tides COULD just be another evil dragon, i feel like it'd be far more interesting if they weren't, showing even good people can do things that aren't exactly Good for the sake of what they think is right or whatnot. Personally i like to think Tides was also sort of a loner, but unlike Frost, was much more calm and welcoming. Neutral, i suppose.

Gloomborf - Dumbass that only cares about eating. Technically evil but less so evil in the sense they're insidious and malevolent but more so evil in the sense they'd eat babies and grandmas because they were hungry

wanton pendant
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Erm, since when was eating babies evil?

pliant ruin
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gloomborf is like dnd ogres

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bro just goes up to a random town and starts eating peasants

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and goes yummm yummy 😋

icy veldt
pliant ruin
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Possible but if anything

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I feel like that's likely to be the case for Vetrasyl and Otonilou if anything

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And i feel like doing the same plot twice would be kind of lkame

icy veldt
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Ah, yeah that's fair

pliant ruin
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so yeah my guesses are basically
Zeratros - Lawful neutral
Frost - Neutral leaning onto Neutral Evil but not fully
Tides - Neutral
Gloomborf - Neutral Evil

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I think Faith and Dogma would be much opposites in taht sense

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Lawful Good type energy for Faith

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to, well

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Lawful Evil for Dogma

glacial rampart
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lke

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i

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dont know how to say words

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but you get it

icy veldt
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Yeah I do get it. IRL tides come and go with the moon and (to a lesser extend) sun, on an easily predictable cycle, while the sea as a whole is much more chaotic and difficult to predict in its entirety

wanton pendant
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Answer is simple.
Tyrian was seven people in a trenchcoat.

split mortar
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Seven human souls

spare pier
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God I can't believe Gloomborf is still like

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The generally accepted name for that fucker

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😭

icy veldt
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Frobmoolg

wanton pendant
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You mean the totally real, official and canonical name?

split mortar
dusk laurel
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gloomborf

cloud ibex
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cheese propaganda wins

real silo
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gaslight gatekeep girlboss

icy veldt
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Gloomborger 🍔

glacial rampart
pulsar ocean
pulsar ocean
pliant ruin
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posting this reminds me i need to continue one pieceing

spare pier
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You should

pliant ruin
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ill probably get back to reading after im done with this fionna & cake episode

split mortar
spare pier
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It's funny

wanton pendant
split mortar
wanton pendant
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...I meant your username.

split mortar
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Want the medium or short answer

dusk laurel
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why are you NORMAL.

split mortar
wanton pendant
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I'm concerned as to the fact that this is a complicated question to answer.

split mortar
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Never mentioned complexity in medium or short

long bloom
pliant ruin
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i'm pretty sure it unironically is official at this point

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like i wouldnt be surprised

split mortar
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Cheese become a writer

long bloom
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same tbh

pliant ruin
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im already the writer emotional support

wanton pendant
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Become a writer and canonize Profaned Cockroach.

split mortar
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Wat am i

wanton pendant
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Melon Gun.

pliant ruin
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roydev emotional support

split mortar
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Emotional support terrarian in roy dev

split mortar
reef nova
wanton pendant
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How annoying, getting the name wrong. And why is your name orange?

reef nova
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Also

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I'm a super duper booster

split mortar
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Doesnt stop me from throwing sand at you

pulsar ocean
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imagine if there was like a doc, that had like, all the lore

wanton pendant
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And then there was also two of them.

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Wouldn't that be crazy?

pulsar ocean
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crazy?

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i was crazy once

reef nova
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so warm

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so nice

split mortar
split mortar
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Imagine being a moderator again

dusk laurel
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okay melon gun

frank dune
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Sso yesterday

split mortar
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Sso forever

frank dune
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IS there even any mod lore left?

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It has been exactly year and 2-3 weeks since i met melon

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aka when i started waiting for sso

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I am sure all lore shouldve been discussed already, no?

split mortar
wanton pendant
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There was that one time where we killed the writers in a revolution.

icy veldt
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Discord users getting weirder and weirder as they run out of topics to talk about

frank dune
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Sea sunker overhaul

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This update has to be smth so umazing if it takes so long

wanton pendant
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The trailer will have Fabsol's execution followed by a release date written in comic sans.

split mortar
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Also dog rework making dog like the best fight in calamity i hear

pulsar ocean
long bloom
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no resprite yet

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they just need to fix the fight because it's actually unbearable

visual kiln
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@pliant ruin ban me

pliant ruin
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Whar

icy veldt
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Do it! Do it! Do it! Do it! Do it!

long bloom
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@pliant ruin ban avitus

icy veldt
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Die

zenith geode
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@pliant ruin ban everyone

icy veldt
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Everyone is now banned from being alive XD

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Punishment for existing = incineration

long bloom
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providence speech bubble

brave galleon
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so do we know who these four other figures are beside yharim on the logo

split mortar
brave galleon
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ah alr

pliant ruin
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they're random glupshitto knights of no relevance whatsoever 🙏 🙏

split mortar
pliant ruin
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No i'm pretty relevant actually

split mortar
pliant ruin
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i said so

split mortar
limpid saddle
split mortar
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Calamitas is not relevant

icy veldt
split mortar
wanton pendant
split mortar
wanton pendant
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Brothers?
Calamity reference?

split mortar
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Boiled you will be

dusk laurel
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does this to everyone here

cosmic zenith
wanton pendant
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Goku I think.

long bloom
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uhhhhhhhhhh

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her name is like milk or something

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i forgot

pliant ruin
split mortar
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Milk ingot

icy veldt
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Yogurt? No, that's the green guy from Stargate or smth

crimson junco
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My gif

glacial rampart
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gurt: yo

dusk laurel
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little bug

crimson junco
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👎

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Hit u with a stick

dusk laurel
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try again

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little bug

wanton pendant
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Must be a small stick.

wanton pendant
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Well, you know what they say!

thick slate
stuck solstice
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Yharim is calamitas daughter

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and DoG and providence are calamitas aunts

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its confirmed

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in twitter

wanton pendant
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Am I having a stroke?

stuck solstice
zenith geode
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this is true

thick slate
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yharims a girl now

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yharima

pliant ruin
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What the heck have you people been doing here 😭

hoary cape
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cheese is a peak user of very important relevance

jaunty wraith
brave galleon
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not exactly lore but idk where else to ask this but i get the “you” image rq

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i hope this makes sense i dont exactly remember what it says

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nevermind found it

calm zealot
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dont play mage
dont play mage
dont play mage
dont play mage

pearl halo
frank dune
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Hi

pulsar ocean
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Would draedon like the calamity lore

real silo
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he's a nonfiction fan

split mortar
frosty charm
short kiln
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but would draedon play calamity mod

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actually would he like gaming at all

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he has ar vrchat tech

long bloom
short kiln
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so the civ and stellaris devs are canon in calamity lore

long bloom
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buh

short kiln
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is draedon canonically running the calamity mod twitter account

random mulch
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draedon took over the twitter for a bit

wanton pendant
random mulch
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this is still my favorite image from that moment

strong notch
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And later Yharim right before his update

short kiln
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gotta be amidias first for sso

feral skiff
wanton pendant
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Finally reveals Yharim's gun.

limpid saddle
hearty spire
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is draedon a clanker

split mortar
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Yes the guys a robot

pulsar ocean
abstract hedge
pliant ruin
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Can u guys talk about lore here next time

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i js woke up

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uhmm go my moderator beam or something im tired

frank dune
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67

long bloom
pulsar ocean
long bloom
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there's a gas leak in the mod basement

pliant ruin
long bloom
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real serious lores discussion

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uh
what's the astrum deus species called

pulsar ocean
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worm

split mortar
wanton pendant
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Non-zero chance it's 'Astrum Deus'.

abstract hedge
split mortar
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Astrum is prob used for anything infected with astral look at astrum aureus

dusk laurel
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aureus was probably the name of whatever type of robot aureus is so that makes sense

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and deus was already revered as a deity so that tracks

mighty zenith
random mulch
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what if some of the other machines were called after other metals

dusk laurel
pulsar ocean
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can kratos beat xeroc

split mortar
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Yes

pulsar ocean
random mulch
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would probably be a sick fight to see, because who doesn't like light powers

split mortar
pliant ruin
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and the individiual one we see is idk Bob

pliant ruin
pulsar ocean
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did people use latin in calamity verse

long bloom
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we have zero information about languages last i checked

pliant ruin
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Astrum is also just derived from the latin word fo star though so it could not necessarily be exclusively for the infectium

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In aureus's case it could be Astrum because Astral Infection and in Deus's it could just be because that's the Star Guy

thick slate
icy veldt
pulsar ocean
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does the terrarian know latin

thick slate
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well

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the terrarian is

icy veldt
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If the Terrarian is me, then yes

thick slate
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real question is do YOU know latin

pulsar ocean
pulsar ocean
thick slate
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the terrarian has amnesia and forgot latin

icy veldt
pulsar ocean
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is there a heaven if there is a hell

pulsar ocean
icy veldt
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Yes

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💪😎

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Flexing on plebeians is always worth it

frank dune
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61

fallen kindle
digital anchor
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Did Draedon make Astrum Aureus?

wanton pendant
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Yes.

digital anchor
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It was a machine that got corrupted by the astral infection right?

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While trying to study and gather information on it

long bloom
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correct

wanton pendant
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Yes exactly.

digital anchor
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Thanks Astral Infection for the sick ass guitar solo

final bison
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yo dumb question

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What Are Cryogens Pronouns.

cloud ibex
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it's an object

split mortar
final bison
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ok but you gave aureus pronouns

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why cant cryogen have one

split mortar
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The guy in cryogen (permafrost) is a guy

final bison
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im talking about cryogen itself

cloud ibex
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aureus is also an it

split mortar
wanton pendant
#

It's a living ice cube. It has no identity, it's arguable if it can even be considered sentient, let alone sapient.

limpid saddle
#

It's an animated ice-cube

#

It moves & it stabs & that's about it

wanton pendant
#

It concerningly has a soul, which somewhat implies it's alive. It doesn't really give the impression of being aware, however.

hybrid barn
#

It has a soul? Where was that confirmed?

split mortar
cloud ibex
#

presumably from it dropping an item named Soul of Cryogen

hybrid barn
#

Ohhhh, huh-
I'll admit, I kind of forgot it has drops that aren't the weapons that fuse into the Kelvin Catalyst

frosty charm
#

if you really want to then just like

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they/them i guess idk

zenith geode
#

cryogen is literally just ice

digital anchor
#

Does Deerclops have a lore item?

#

im assuming not because its a collab boss

cosmic zenith
#

Nope

#

All crossover content is non canon

zenith geode
#

deerclops lore item and its just "Bah! What the dame da fuck is this thing?! I baka mi hate it!"

glacial rampart
zenith geode
#

thats great

magic epoch
#

im pissed

zenith geode
magic epoch
#

thank you

dire eagle
#

yo

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im genuinely wondering

#

they made calamitas plushie

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yharon plushie

#

if they add yharim

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are they gonna make a yharim plushie

#

i mean

#

i would love to have the big trio in my room

#

without draedon

#

he would prb be weird as a plushie

thick slate
#

kill yharim ❌
spare yharim ❌
turn him into marketable plushie ✅

#

i need like a DoG plush

#

or a draedon plush

zenith geode
#

metal plated draedon plush

pulsar ocean
dire eagle
#

imagine draedons just a computer

#

@zenith geode

#

@zenith geode

light linden
#

Personally I want a permafrost plush

real silo
#

I love my middle aged man plush

split mortar
real silo
#

Elderlon gun

split mortar
real silo
#

Then I'm olderaxia

thick slate
#

imagine dragons

strong notch
random mulch
#

extremely official world map of clamerty 100% 2025 no virus official

#

(continent 4 may seem larger than heartlands but that's only because of polar distortion)

long bloom
random mulch
#

a

#

restored

random mulch
#

no

pulsar ocean
#

Yes

random mulch
#

there are no netherlands in calamity

final bison
#

i will riot until cryogen becomes a living being

pulsar ocean
split mortar
dusk laurel
#

actual rotten place

pulsar ocean
#

Are Netherlands in the nether

balmy glacier
random mulch
balmy glacier
#

oh there it is

#

ibuprofen

pulsar ocean
random mulch
#

no

#

more but i didn't forget to export this time

pulsar ocean
random mulch
#

the joke isn't funny stop pinging me

pulsar ocean
#

what joke

random mulch
#

netherlands thing, just shut up about it

pulsar ocean
#

Why do you dislike Netherlands

random mulch
#

my head hurts and i'm not in the best mood

#

anyways i'm gonna add info from the nuclear autism masterdoc to the gods & dragons chart

#

sorry if i sound rude btw

#

already having a headache from sleeping for 10 hours and then also feeling a migraine coming up will do that

pulsar ocean
#

Take ibuprofen

random mulch
#

i probably should before my migraine fully kicks in

random mulch
real silo
#

You should put xeroc on top because he's #goat

random mulch
#

xeroc hasn't made a direct appearance yet so no

real silo
#

Dammit

random mulch
#

though xeroc is at the top of the "not directly appeared in-game" group

real silo
#

Good enough

split mortar
#

Totally xeroc

random mulch
#

no, explode

split mortar
tropic oak
#

that is a xeroc apperance

#

LOL

abstract hedge
#

Kinda related to Xeroc

#

I wonder if perfect ascensions keep people in more of a human form than imperfect ones.

#

Because Silva looks fairly similar and we know Xeroc will have hair so he'll probably be at least mostly humanoid.

split mortar
#

we dont know, silva can shapeshift to bypass the god shiftings

abstract hedge
#

While the inperfect ascensions all vary a ton.

#

Like Agnus was humanoid but weird, SG was just an orb, Providence was kinda humanoid but made if rocks and such, Tyrian and Otonilou seemed to stay similar to a regular Ilmeran but we don't know what they looked like beforehand.

real silo
#

Tyrian gained a huge handcannon

wanton pendant
#

I don't know, maybe Tyrian was a member of the ever famous Handcannon Shark family.

real silo
#

Tyrian secretly a pistol shrimp

dusk laurel
#

pumper prawn

split mortar
#

wait what cei started atoms at some point?

wanton pendant
#

Writers writing? Perish the thought.

split mortar
wanton pendant
#

I'm not the thought.

pulsar ocean
wanton pendant
#

My name is WaterWraithGaming.

#

Not The Thought.

#

Thus, I am not the thought.

split mortar
#

Mods rename me to “melonius axiom” pls

split mortar
wanton pendant
#

Are you thinking of me, or are you thinking of the concept of me you have established in your own cognition?

split mortar
wanton pendant
#

I suppose you're not the thought then.

thick slate
#

everyones perception of everyone is different

split mortar
strong notch
thick slate
thick slate
#

psychology boringgg

strong notch
#

more like philosophy

#

i don't mind it though

wanton pendant
#

I'd take a lot of ego to be so dismissive, a super ego if you will.

pulsar ocean
thick slate
#

i dont thought

#

therefore i dont am

#

stupid quote anyway

#

a wall exist

#

a wall does not think

untold bluff
#

Hey guys

#

What do you think aureus would look like from the back

#

His design looks like he has no back legs or anything

wanton pendant
#

Probably still warped from the infection.

long bloom
main tiger
#

I know that scaling in calamity was nerfed, and I want to know one thing... Why didn't they rationalize it? Because, let's be honest, there are things that can be fixed, I think.

wanton pendant
#

Ok, I assume you're using a translator.

#

Am I correct?

main tiger
wanton pendant
#

It's not inherently bad, but the translation quality seems low.
What exactly was 'nerfed' without being rationalized.
For reference, a nerf in English means something that was made weaker in terms of gamebalancing.

pulsar ocean
long bloom
#

no i did it before 1.5

pulsar ocean
#

Aw

long bloom
#

but i did build a 100 block long dog

pulsar ocean
#

Tuff

wanton pendant
#

1.5 was four years ago. Feel old yet?

main tiger
wanton pendant
#

It's the anniversary.

mighty zenith
wanton pendant
main tiger
wanton pendant
#

Yharim on two different occasions managed to curse the strongest mages.
Despite the fact that Yharim did not know magic.

#

Old Lore very much relied on doing what seemed cool rather than what was consistent or narratively relevant.

mighty zenith
#

the main reasoning for current lore'ss power scale is to make events actually impactful

#

there would be no impact to Calamitas incinerating an ocean if she could destroy a planet

split mortar
#

The new continuity would not be able to function if characters could blow up planets or anything close

main tiger
#

Now that I think about it, the second form of the devourer of gods must have been the full power of a multidimensional being, which causes its visible section to mutate as a manifestation of its full power.

mighty zenith
#

it's treated as a terrifyingly impressive show of power

#

what

split mortar
#

Dog just puts on armour for phase 2

wanton pendant
#

DoG, in both the old and new lore, is just wearing armour during phase two.

#

That's why it looks different.

mighty zenith
#

calamity simply doesn't need to reach planetary levels of power

#

it doesn't bring anything of value to the story

lusty prairie
#

I too use my multidimensional powers to put on clothes in the morning

wanton pendant
#

He gets overconfident and attempts to fight you unarmoured in both cases, then when he sees you're actually a threat he arms himself.

main tiger
#

If you are 3D and a character from higher dimensions tries to kill you, the 3D section of this enemy will change to a look because of its power.

hybrid barn
#

Actually makes me curious, was the galaxy tail ever actually something special, or did he just have it because it looked cool? Because to be fair, it looked pretty cool

wanton pendant
wanton pendant
hybrid barn
#

Fair enough then

random mulch
#

lowering the scale makes feats more impressive because when scales get too large they kinda just lose meaning

mighty zenith
#

yeah

main tiger
#

I mean that the entire body of the devourer of gods is not an avatar.

split mortar
#

DoG is just putting on armour
This just isnt seen in its sprites rn cause they werent made for showing that

long bloom
mighty zenith
#

i think something may be lost in translation

split mortar
#

Yeah

main tiger
#

The physiological characteristics of the devourer of gods

wanton pendant
split mortar
#

The power of the sun is stronger then DoGs boss in new lore

long bloom
#

well
his internals are confusing as shit but you can still very much comprehend him

main tiger
long bloom
#

since always wires

wanton pendant
split mortar
#

Dog still not 4D

wanton pendant
#

Which I suppose should be now, unless you're secretly Bill Cipher.

main tiger
#

The only thing I see of the devourer of gods is a multifaceted serpent, of which only the 3D section is visible.

hybrid barn
#

I'm a bit confused here, because no part of DoG is 3D

random mulch
#

DoG is a giant purple worm with an ego the size of saturn

wanton pendant
#

That's because it exists in three dimensions. X, Y and Z.

long bloom
#

the devour of gods is a cylinder

hybrid barn
#

the entire thing is a 2D sprite

split mortar
#

Theres nothing indicating its a 4D creature

wanton pendant
#

Nothing beyond that.

#

It has no time powers.

long bloom
#

it's
objectively wrong

main tiger
split mortar
#

The sun is still beyond dogs boss

wanton pendant
split mortar
random mulch
#

it's still wrong in-lore

pulsar ocean
#

Is dog squishy when without his power armor

wanton pendant
#

Not from the fourth dimension.

main tiger
wanton pendant
split mortar
#

Someone have the dog reaprites

young socket
#

dog has never been a 4d being

long bloom
random mulch
split mortar
random mulch
#

DoG is just a purple worm who puts on armor in phase 2

main tiger
# random mulch

Why do I feel that section 3D still applies consistently to the lore?(The Sprite looks good)

random mulch
#

are you maybe misinterpreting the distortion?

wanton pendant
#

Ok, I think your translator really isn't working.

hybrid barn
# random mulch

Somehow I only just noticed that he has a little indent on his head where the forehead gem in his armor is

#

That's kinda funny

wanton pendant
#

When you fight the Devourer of Gods, you are perceiving all of the Devourer of Gods.
It is not a vessel or a fragment of a super dimensional being.
It is a big worm with an ego.
When you kill it, he dies, and he doesn't come back.

pulsar ocean
#

Does DoG taste good

split mortar
#

Prob not

random mulch
#

probably not

wanton pendant
#

Venison.

pulsar ocean
#

Does it have a grape flavour since it’s purple

mighty zenith
wanton pendant
#

Everyone knows purple things taste like purple, not grape.

pulsar ocean
hybrid barn
main tiger
wanton pendant
#

I'm fairly certain in the old lore he was literally just a worm.
Like, a normal worm that's really big.

split mortar
#

Was dog ever multiversal in old lore

wanton pendant
#

Not some multiversal monster.

#

A worm.

#

That has Mega Man powers.

hybrid barn
#

Maybe they're referring to the scrapped Devourer of Universes?

main tiger
mighty zenith
#

DoG was like a gigantic fraud in old lore

wanton pendant
#

Like, a normal, biological, terrestrial worm.

pulsar ocean
mighty zenith
#

like his biggest accomplishment was biting off a chunk of astrum deus

#

the buffed god one

wanton pendant
hybrid barn
wanton pendant
#

Similarly, Storm Weaver was also just a normal worm.

#

DoG used to be slightly less of a jerk, so they were chill... somewhat.

main tiger
hybrid barn
#

Also yeah, Noxus most likely had a direct influence on DoG, but as far as we know, he's basically a minion

wanton pendant
pulsar ocean
#

What if dog was a worm before noxus made him purple

wanton pendant
main tiger
pulsar ocean
#

How is a water wraith gaming

wanton pendant
wanton pendant
main tiger
#

I can go to the points of the old lore of the Game,that have errors and fallacies in powerscale

wanton pendant
#

It is well known that the Old Lore was not consistent or reasonable in such places.

balmy glacier
#

very profound conversation i see

main tiger
#

I would like to make a more consistent version of the old lore.

balmy glacier
wanton pendant
main tiger
#

After they release the Wrath of the Gods mod
I also wonder one thing:

Is Xeroc more powerful than the nameless deity?

hybrid barn
#

Not even close

balmy glacier
#

nameless is omnipotent

wanton pendant
#

Nameless Deity is a non-canonical representation of the concept of God.

main tiger
hybrid barn
#

Nameless Deity was specifically designed based on an old version of Xeroc that was...basically God

wanton pendant
#

So probably not.

wanton pendant
gritty kraken
#

new lore xeroc is mountain level
I think

wanton pendant
#

Xeroc can control the sun.

balmy glacier
main tiger
#

I am referring to a hypothetical scenario.

hybrid barn
balmy glacier
hybrid barn
#

I know for sure that the regular stars are

wanton pendant
#

It is still a giant mass of energy bigger than the moon.

#

Which Xeroc can impose their will upon.
And is even able to take it away if he so chose.

balmy glacier
hybrid barn
#

...come to think of it, I wonder what the scale of the Calamity solar system looks like

#

Because as far as we know, the moon could be the size of a planetoid

wanton pendant
mighty zenith
wanton pendant
#

One inhabited. One formerly inhabited.

mighty zenith
#

because that's the point of the character

#

they are capital g God

hybrid barn
mighty zenith
#

but there is no capital g God in Calamity

hybrid barn
#

Not really by how much

mighty zenith
#

because there isn't a need for it

main tiger
#

What would the old, fixed lore be called?

mighty zenith
#

new lore

wanton pendant
mighty zenith
#

fixed old lore is just,

#

current lore

main tiger
pliant ruin
#

Hi lore chat how's it going how's it hanging

#

Cheese had a busy day today

mighty zenith
#

hello moon entity

pliant ruin
#

cleaned my house, aunt gave me a christmas gift, and now i just came back from da shower

wanton pendant
#

Hello Yharim's biggest fan.

hybrid barn
pliant ruin
hybrid barn
#

Because I think the continent you're on is like...15K feet wide at most

pliant ruin
#

look ok i do like yharim hes a cool ass character but cmon you couldve picked like

#

gloomborf or gorthus or calamitas or something

wanton pendant
young socket
#

hello calamitas

pliant ruin
#

I'll accept that one

pliant ruin
#

atp i've embraced it

#

it's me

#

calamitas calamity mod

young socket
#

cheese calamity mod

pliant ruin
#

anyways what's convo abt

hybrid barn
young socket
#

graaahhhh

wanton pendant
#

Do you know how deep the Abyss is in-game?
The depth of the sea floor in real life.
The normal sea floor.

hybrid barn
mighty zenith
wanton pendant
#

It is not even a trench.
It is the floor.

random mulch
#

you can't estimate the size of an entire continent from a single slice

young socket
#

if things were scaled properly the game would fucking SUCK

pliant ruin
#

estimating things in-universe based on the game would be jank

young socket
#

itd take actual fucking hours to get like a single vein of ore

pliant ruin
#

Just assume things are smaller ingame for the sake of it being a 2D Game

pliant ruin
#

If they weren't, the heartlands would be

young socket
#

it being a game warrants it being smaller

pliant ruin
#

Smaller than most islands

wanton pendant
#

I recall some people think the Abyss is intended to be like, Mariana Trench level deep.
Which is multiple times deeper than it is in-game.
Because the in-game size is EXTREMELY not to scale.

pliant ruin
#

Also yeah i assume abyss is prob

#

mariana trench deep or so

#

more or less

#

maybe a bti deeper

#

maybe a bit shallolwer

#

but around that ballpark

main tiger
#

The old lore with the multiverse power scale fixed in a coherent manner would be like:

wanton pendant
#

This also puts Azafure in a more reasonable position of deep into the crust.
And not slightly below the surface.

pliant ruin
#

The old lore's issues weren't just

#

the powerscale being wack

#

It just wasn't. a good narrative

main tiger
#

🤔

pliant ruin
#

It was a bunch of disjointed concepts with a lack of direction or structure

wanton pendant
#

Everything happened because it was cool, not because it made sense.

pliant ruin
#

Characters lacked depth

#

Things just sorta Happened because it'd be Cool

wanton pendant
#

Again, the whole 'out magicked the two best at magic despite not knowing magic'.

long bloom
#

motivations barely existed

wanton pendant
#

And yes, no character motives.

pliant ruin
#

Old lore was less an actual story andmore just a bunch of sorta interesting concepts

long bloom
#

it was wide as the sea and deep as a puddle

pliant ruin
#

yep

main tiger
#

Are you assuming that the more power a character has, the more narrative depth they lose?

long bloom
#

no

pliant ruin
#

no lol

#

nobody said that

pliant ruin
#

Old lore characters where just shallow because they Weren't Written Well it has nothing to do with powerscaling

main tiger
#

Oh, misunderstanding

long bloom
#

the powerscaling and lack of depth were two separate issues

#

mostly

pliant ruin
#

You can absolutely make a story with higher powerscaling than cal and it still be well writte n

#

Old lore just wasn't one of them 👍

main tiger
#

I mean, I don't know if it affects the narrative in general.

cloud ibex
#

dragon ball or something i think

wanton pendant
#

The powerscaling had similar issues, being that characters could do whatever was cool at the time, regardless of their intended abilities.

cloud ibex
#

idk i haven't watched it

pliant ruin
#

Madoka Magica thoguh it's kind of a silly example because the show's powerscaling goes from like fiarly average to ???????????????????????? what the fuck

#

within some episodes

#

Despite that it's still my favorite anime ever and its writing is peak

#

Gurenn Lagann also

long bloom
wanton pendant
pliant ruin
#

I don't know what you mean by that

#

I don't know if it affects the narrative

#

What is It

wanton pendant
#

They thought 'it'd be cool if you could get his sword' and then did it.

main tiger
#

If the character becomes powerful, does it affect the narrative of the story?

long bloom
pliant ruin
#

Whether for better or worse though, depends /shrug

pliant ruin
#

You can't shorthand it into something as simple as "stronger characters r worse" or "stronger characters r better"

cloud ibex
#

a character wants to Kill Everything

pliant ruin
#

depends on what you want to write

cloud ibex
#

said character is fully capable of Killing Everything

main tiger
cloud ibex
#

said character inexplicably does not Kill Everything because ???

pliant ruin
#

A character's strenght should fit in with the narrative you want to write, not the opposite, most of the time, i think

long bloom
#

true!

main tiger
long bloom
#

???

pliant ruin
#

I think this guy wanted to go into #powerscaling_discussion and took the wrong turn

pulsar ocean
#

Is the terrarian able to kill everyone because we can mine up the whole world

real glen
#

???

wanton pendant
long bloom
#

lunar hook tooltip says you can grapple the moon so the terrarian is planetary level

pliant ruin
#

Ok looking at ur bio your first language isn't english

#

What translator are you using?

pulsar ocean
long bloom
glacial rampart
#

cheese just got here

pliant ruin
#

Had a hunch

wanton pendant
#

Source: Dude, trust me.

hybrid barn
pliant ruin
#

Let me test that one for a bit

#

Maybew it's wack

long bloom
wanton pendant
#

I've never heard of that translator.
Is it better or worse than Google Translate, anyone know?

long bloom
#

i would be shocked if it's better

pulsar ocean
#

If xeroc had a stand would it be the sun

pliant ruin
#

Dosen't seem that bad from what i'm testing, google translator is ol' reliable tho, maybe try that one

wanton pendant
#

Xeroc's stand would be [REDACTED], which would let them [DATA EXPUNGED].

main tiger
#

I mean that the Terrarian might not destroy the environment during his battle because he protects the entire environment with his reality manipulation powers(in case he got them just in case, based on Terraria lore)

long bloom
#

xeroc's stand would be the rock

long bloom
#

the terrarian can't manipulate reality

wanton pendant
long bloom
#

i'm not john image

#

that's @split mortar

split mortar
main tiger
pliant ruin
#

The Terrarian dosen't have any particular lore

#

It is Up to You 🫵

#

Blank slate, not really an actual character

split mortar
#

ITS UP TO YOU TO DECIDE THE TERRARIANS LORE

long bloom
#

the terrarian is effectively your original character

#

so you decide everything about them

#

within reason*

main tiger
#

Supreme Calamitas fight= domain expansion

long bloom
#

idk what a domain expansion is but i Don't Think it's That

split mortar
#

jjk thing

pulsar ocean
wanton pendant
main tiger
# main tiger Supreme Calamitas fight= domain expansion

A domain expansion is an advanced technique in Jujutsu Kaisen that creates a separate, artificial space by combining the user's innate domain with a cursed technique inside a barrier. Within this "sure-hit" domain, the user's abilities are amplified, and their cursed technique is guaranteed to hit any target inside.