#lore-discussion
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PLEASE
Whuh

the hogs are invading
itd e so funny
im farming fire reacts today
Smth smh tommorow
Drink sweeper fuel
lore discussion has a normal one
many such cases
is it true that snakes had legs and jordans before god took them away
According to The Bible (not canon to Calamity), yes and no.
No one can own a river, silly.
Technically a lot of snakes still have legs
Yes how else do you just find them chilling in your house
A majority of snakes have hind legs
But they are just a little claw for helping them climb
tomorow
If Yharon were Finnish, would he be Uharon or Yhärön?
If Yharon were spanish surely it would be named "Barón"
?
They are not fish so i dont think so
Sushi isn't all fish
yeah shrimp sushi exists
and squids
both aren't fish so i mean
probably
people eat reptiles in places so
kiri is the public's enemy
Die
gatekeeping twit
Tbh thats prob cause noxus isnt a fightable boss in the game yet
i need to write xeroc dialogue but i fucking suck at dialogue fuuuccckk
did anyone live at the abyss (we see chests and house-like structures) or are those just there because silva thought it'd be cool
The eidolists are fully sapient people iirc
the house structures were removed a while ago
right
all the chests are now just on the islands
???
where'd that come from
What the fuck else could it be
noxus is logically the strongest non xeroc boss
Its either that or the spar and i doubt xeroc would gaslight gatekeep girlboss us away from a spar of all things
can't wait for xeroc to continue gatekeeping his proposition because he's the honored one or something
Honestly, my immediate assumption was that he isn't willing to spar you yet because you still haven't fought Yharim
yeah
It's totally because they're too scared.
I'll mess 'em up.
Fight me, you Teletubby cameo wannabee!
is there any canon voices for any of the big main important bosses
and or important characters
no but a handful of devs have imagined draedon sounding like samuel hayden and there was that one time he was voiced by gianni
i think scal having a spanish accent is a neat idea
(although founded on literally nothing other than "azafure" being based on a spanish word)
work with me on this one: draedon sounds like AM's monologue, but if am was not insane nor mentally broken
i mean we hear her laughter after summoning her no?
i could see her being spanish
a little overly intense for draedon i think
either that or ultron but ultron is just a endall beall for "robot that is smart"
i thought her voice in stained brutal calamity should be her official voice
I think she should have a reconstructed Gothic accent
she sounded british
Stained, Brutal Calamity isn't canon.
Please don't torment the good people of this server by reminding them of the British.
what why..
The British.
In 1066, William of Normandy laid claim to the throne of England.
That's not what they called him though...
only a french person would remember the year they successfully invaded england
I WASN'T THERE!
a british person also would
who r u
Wrong channel oops
obliterating your spinal cord
doesbt taste that bad actually
I remember a lore dev saying that draedon would think Ultron was stupid
Er
Draedon probably thinks everyone is stupid.
Then again, maybe it's more so a philosophy thing. Since Ultron is a robot supremacist, I can see why Draedon would look down on him.
why are you crossing out your messages
i can still read them you know
you can't hide from me pikmin enemy #530785166122287114
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Bruh
beware the man who speaks in hands
Entry number seventeen
Average britishman
hi there minos
hi solidus snake
Banned.
oi noice chewsday innit
It's Friday.
Is it mate
Its the only public art of the new amidias design
is your pfp a screenshot from that fuckass 'which limbus characters would go to agartha' video
Is yakub real in calamity
Maybe
Which Calamity mod character would go to Agatha?
agatha who?
agartha
eh… onyx
whar
idfk
permafrost?
embed failure!!
yharim
like the guy from bloodborne?
we dont know if hes white though
fair
we DO know the God of War is white though
he shares some traits with nazis so hes close enough
kratos
oh & braelor but idk if psycho-zionist mfs accept gay people
no this guys got 4 arms & has a carapace
Dogma
Lore
read through the lore doc
i love how the abyss is canonically why azafure did so well
Loreful
would draedon be the best at videogames like a TAS
no hes noob
Is this fact checked
a billion dollars is just a billion dollars
but a dollar a day? if you wait long enough, it could be anything
it could even be a billion dollars
Yeah, but like, a billion days is like, three years. That's ages.
would look up how long a human life is in days to make a funny quip but i know it would only fill me with primordial dread 
primordial? like,
just like, cryo freeze yourself and wake up 100 million years later
profit
that's still only 10% of a billion
i dont think they said you get a dollar per year
i can't read i'm an undertale fan
Make that 3 million years
I'd take the billion dollars
Even if you got payed multiple dollars ever hour since Christ was born, you still wouldn't have 1 billion dollars now
Billion easily. 1 dollar a day is less than a thousandth of a billion assuming you live 75 years.
guys this isnt very loreous
Draedon is probably the equivalent of a billionaire so it actually is.
What if Calamitas had a billion dollars?
forgot million is a word award
If you earned a dollar every second of your life you'd still only have a 75th as much money as the 10th richest human alive.
no its not!
crucification imminent
Funds were probably pretty important for Yharim's campaign, so it's definitely loreous
A millionth is smaller than a thousandth so I was still correct.
no its not!
crucification imminent
I don't think doing those is legal anymore.
Can we go to actually important lore like the terrarian
no i mean using the word million instead of a thousandth of a billion
Reign of yharim
Weaver?
You haven't had the mod role for even a week and are already abusing your power 😔
It the weaver theory?
The terrarian doesn't have lore.
you
As far as I'm concerned that's canon until proven otherwise
Yeah i mean, a god's soul is just theirs + the auric soul, so naturally
if the god already was similar to the dragon as is
easy to deduce the domain wouldn't have much reason to change since its kinda just more of the same
thus leading to smth like otonilou and vetrasyl where their domains r p similar
it does make you wonder, if this theory were to be correct about what the domain changes in gods can tell us about their personalities
Fire to ash for provi
Both dickheads
Zaelithar having flame could means he wanted to "keep the fire alive", metaphorically, to see it burn ever brighter
As for Provi it's kinda obvious, Ash because, well, she dosen't want to keep the fire burning brighter
Hmm, I think the "flame -> ashes" thing for Provi more implies that, deep down, she's just really sad
She wants the fire to die out, for everything to be turned into ash
Ashes to ashes.
^ Ultimate, world-ending despair pretty much 😿
i do like to imagine prov being like
A cat 
very emotionally muted and somber in the way she talks
Tides > Sea makes me wonder
i'm breaking your knees
shut up bro!!! you're weird!!!!!!
We do know that provi wont kill herself due to embers
Maybe Tyrian was, despite being a generally benevolent guy from the looks of it
Very like, proactive, maybe even violent to some extent
Because the Sea generally implies something grander, more unruly and powerful than Tides
Tides for me seems to lean more into the sort of
calm, serene waves that the sea makes near its shores
while in my head
Sea seems to imply more the raging endless expanse of the ocean
Tyrian used to be a pirate
Like military drill sargeant
Not a BAD guy
But very stern, a great fighter, able to take the lead when needed
while maybe the dragon ot tides was more calm and serene
Yeah, she definitely has emotional issues. I wonder if the Flame Dragon's assholishness could've influenced Provi from wanting to wipe out all life including herself to wanting to wipe out all life except herself and her girlboss polycule squad
dragon of
Dragon of Tides?
What causes tides?
The Moon.
Thus...
Dragon of Tides can control the moon.
That's how they sealed Moon Lord.
im gonna kill you
same yeah
Dragon of night would be better for moon control
What if Provi ascended with the soul of the Dragon of Lions instead? Would she have become the Goddess of Cats?
No.
can you stop with the whole providence cat thing
Probably like, I don't know, Hunting because she kills you.
it's kinda Annoying when you forcefully insert it into Every Single Conversation You're In
Fiiiine, I'll tone it down
i don't think anybody's found it funny a single time
...okay?
agnus is kinda self-explanatory i think
and it also makes alot of sense with john dogma
dragon of faith, dogma's faith was broken, so "faith" ends up just being means to an end for him, thus becoming dogma
because i man that'sw what dogma is
using other's faith as a tool to get them to do what you want
So what was the Dragon of Faith itself, then?
faith was probably a very kind dragon i imagine
meanwhile dogma is... dogma
manipulative, controlling, authoritarian and such
Polite, maybe, but I wouldn't say that any dragon was good
i will ignore any comments of yours pertraining ot dragons its been established you're racist
Darn 
all the info from the nuclear autism masterdoc
Nuclear autism master doc
That is way too generous a description of Draconic tyranny
What if i turn your organs off
into the eel pit with you
with that said heres some of my personal guesses on dragon morality. Vetrasyl and Zaelithar excluded bc we know those (Very Nice guy and Very Not Nice guy)
Zeratros - Lawful neutral type guy. Not necessarily always benevolent but overall wants to keep the world in order, not evil but can also do some things that may seem unecessarily cruel for the greater good
Frost - I like to think he was a major loner. Not outright evil, but much like the cold, bitter and harsh. Wouldn't go out of his way to Be Evil and Kill People or anything, but if you suddenly approached him he might tell you to fuck off, and if you don't you might get frozen.
Tides - This one is interesting because Tyrian absorbed their soul. Tyrian as far as we know was a benevolent god, and while Tides COULD just be another evil dragon, i feel like it'd be far more interesting if they weren't, showing even good people can do things that aren't exactly Good for the sake of what they think is right or whatnot. Personally i like to think Tides was also sort of a loner, but unlike Frost, was much more calm and welcoming. Neutral, i suppose.
Gloomborf - Dumbass that only cares about eating. Technically evil but less so evil in the sense they're insidious and malevolent but more so evil in the sense they'd eat babies and grandmas because they were hungry
Erm, since when was eating babies evil?
gloomborf is like dnd ogres
bro just goes up to a random town and starts eating peasants
and goes yummm yummy 😋
Could it have been possible that the Dragon of Tides accepted their death by Tyrian, preferring that he take their soul instead of someone else who could've been much less benevolent?
Possible but if anything
I feel like that's likely to be the case for Vetrasyl and Otonilou if anything
And i feel like doing the same plot twice would be kind of lkame
Ah, yeah that's fair
so yeah my guesses are basically
Zeratros - Lawful neutral
Frost - Neutral leaning onto Neutral Evil but not fully
Tides - Neutral
Gloomborf - Neutral Evil
I think Faith and Dogma would be much opposites in taht sense
Lawful Good type energy for Faith
to, well
Lawful Evil for Dogma
Although I feel like Tides could also embody a sort of passive power
lke
i
dont know how to say words
but you get it
Yeah I do get it. IRL tides come and go with the moon and (to a lesser extend) sun, on an easily predictable cycle, while the sea as a whole is much more chaotic and difficult to predict in its entirety
Answer is simple.
Tyrian was seven people in a trenchcoat.
Seven human souls
God I can't believe Gloomborf is still like
The generally accepted name for that fucker
😭
Frobmoolg
You mean the totally real, official and canonical name?
OK BUT ITS GREAT
gloomborf
cheese propaganda wins
gaslight gatekeep girlboss
Gloomborger 🍔
unless you've got something better ...
its not official?
is that what ur nickname stands for @limpid saddle
posting this reminds me i need to continue one pieceing
ill probably get back to reading after im done with this fionna & cake episode
What’s your opinion on the name gloomborf
It's funny
Why are you you?
Because my mum gained the foetus haver debuff and i had the autism sidegrade after she got cleared of the debuff
...I meant your username.
why are you NORMAL.
Wat
I'm concerned as to the fact that this is a complicated question to answer.
Never mentioned complexity in medium or short
no it was hallucinated by cheese
i'm pretty sure it unironically is official at this point
like i wouldnt be surprised
Cheese become a writer
same tbh
im already the writer emotional support
Become a writer and canonize Profaned Cockroach.
Wat am i
True
Melon Gun.
roydev emotional support
Emotional support terrarian in roy dev
What
Hey apple, congrats on the promotion to mod!!
How annoying, getting the name wrong. And why is your name orange?
Heh, I didn't get the name wrong...
Also
I'm a super duper booster

Doesnt stop me from throwing sand at you
imagine if there was like a doc, that had like, all the lore
Never said warm sand
ty
okay melon gun
Sso yesterday
Sso forever
IS there even any mod lore left?
It has been exactly year and 2-3 weeks since i met melon
aka when i started waiting for sso
I am sure all lore shouldve been discussed already, no?
Yeah this chat is most of the time just
Rot
Very rarely does much happen
There was that one time where we killed the writers in a revolution.
Discord users getting weirder and weirder as they run out of topics to talk about
nah
The trailer will have Fabsol's execution followed by a release date written in comic sans.
1/6th of all weapons have been reworked in some capacity atm iirc
Also dog rework making dog like the best fight in calamity i hear
Dog rework is sso?
a temporary one, yes
no resprite yet
they just need to fix the fight because it's actually unbearable
@pliant ruin ban me
Whar
Do it! Do it! Do it! Do it! Do it!
@pliant ruin ban avitus
Die
@pliant ruin ban everyone
providence speech bubble
so do we know who these four other figures are beside yharim on the logo
- Thats a bajillion years old
- P sure those are there to symbolise the army he had in old lore or something
Could still work as some godseeker knights in new lore?
Basically no we dont
ah alr
they're random glupshitto knights of no relevance whatsoever 🙏 🙏
You are a random glupshitto of no relevance whatsoever
No i'm pretty relevant actually
Proof
i said so
No you didnt
to be fair cheese is calamitas
Calamitas is not relevant
Avitus, Cyrus, Tarkus, and Thaddeus
You wont survive the winters
That's a nice argument Melon Gun, why don't you source the document.
Will do so tomorrow
Gonna try sleeping earlier due to sleep schedule and its my brothers birthday tomorrow
Brothers?
Calamity reference?
Boiled you will be
does this to everyone here
Who are you again
Goku I think.

Milk ingot
Yogurt? No, that's the green guy from Stargate or smth
gurt: yo
Must be a small stick.
thats yhe joke
Well, you know what they say!
Yharim is calamitas daughter
and DoG and providence are calamitas aunts
its confirmed
in twitter
Am I having a stroke?
how
this is true
What the heck have you people been doing here 😭
i am the proof holder
cheese is a peak user of very important relevance
We've gone insane waiting for sso
not exactly lore but idk where else to ask this but i get the “you” image rq
i hope this makes sense i dont exactly remember what it says
nevermind found it
dont play mage
dont play mage
dont play mage
dont play mage
sso tomorrow
Hi
Would draedon like the calamity lore
he's a nonfiction fan
But it has silly weapons and lasers
Ariba ariba
would probably use it as a source of information
but would draedon play calamity mod
actually would he like gaming at all
he has ar vrchat tech
he canonically plays civilization and stellaris
so the civ and stellaris devs are canon in calamity lore
buh
is draedon canonically running the calamity mod twitter account
draedon took over the twitter for a bit
It's Shayy Deltarune canonically. They just exist there too.
Toby Fox is also canon because of this.
Why didn't he stop Yharim? Is he annoying?
this is still my favorite image from that moment
Would be funny if it happened again but for Calamitas instead
And later Yharim right before his update
gotta be amidias first for sso
the last clip posted is a two-second video of the bossfight. the Calamity community goes clinically insane.
Finally reveals Yharim's gun.
what if transmasc yharim pre-bottom surgery
is draedon a clanker
Yes the guys a robot
is that why shayy has the dev role
Yes
Can u guys talk about lore here next time
i js woke up
uhmm go my moderator beam or something im tired
67
yeah they run the social medias and help edit the trailers
why did you become lame after returning to mod
there's a gas leak in the mod basement
ive always been unapologetically a hater of lore chat devolving into brainrot 🩷
worm
We dont know afaik
Non-zero chance it's 'Astrum Deus'.
Potentially just astrum deus.
Astrum is prob used for anything infected with astral look at astrum aureus
aureus was probably the name of whatever type of robot aureus is so that makes sense
and deus was already revered as a deity so that tracks
draedon calls it an aureus unit iirc
what if some of the other machines were called after other metals
yeah
can kratos beat xeroc
Yes
how do you know
would probably be a sick fight to see, because who doesn't like light powers
Kratos is silly
tbh i always thought that astrum deus was the species name
and the individiual one we see is idk Bob
tho actually thats a fair argument
did people use latin in calamity verse
we have zero information about languages last i checked
Astrum is also just derived from the latin word fo star though so it could not necessarily be exclusively for the infectium
In aureus's case it could be Astrum because Astral Infection and in Deus's it could just be because that's the Star Guy
kinda just how he works
They certainly don't use it correctly
does the terrarian know latin
If the Terrarian is me, then yes
real question is do YOU know latin
that means the terrarian does
i dont but im playing as avitus' terrarian
the terrarian has amnesia and forgot latin
Ita, quod Latina est lingua melior quam Anglica 
is there a heaven if there is a hell
was learning the one of a couple languages no one uses worth it
61
me when I invest in 61 coin
Did Draedon make Astrum Aureus?
Yes.
It was a machine that got corrupted by the astral infection right?
While trying to study and gather information on it
correct
Yes exactly.
Thanks Astral Infection for the sick ass guitar solo
it's an object
Thats an object
The guy in cryogen (permafrost) is a guy
im talking about cryogen itself
aureus is also an it
Ice/cube
It's a living ice cube. It has no identity, it's arguable if it can even be considered sentient, let alone sapient.
not even 'living' unless you want to get loose with definitions
It's an animated ice-cube
It moves & it stabs & that's about it
It concerningly has a soul, which somewhat implies it's alive. It doesn't really give the impression of being aware, however.
It has a soul? Where was that confirmed?
One of its drops 
presumably from it dropping an item named Soul of Cryogen
Ohhhh, huh-
I'll admit, I kind of forgot it has drops that aren't the weapons that fuse into the Kelvin Catalyst
cryogen isnt even slightly living, aureus is an ai/robot and is thus personified
if you really want to then just like
they/them i guess idk
cryogen is literally just ice
deerclops lore item and its just "Bah! What the dame da fuck is this thing?! I baka mi hate it!"
"What the fuck happened to this deer"
thats great
im pissed
thank you
yo
im genuinely wondering
they made calamitas plushie
yharon plushie
if they add yharim
are they gonna make a yharim plushie
i mean
i would love to have the big trio in my room
without draedon
he would prb be weird as a plushie
prolly
kill yharim ❌
spare yharim ❌
turn him into marketable plushie ✅
i need like a DoG plush
or a draedon plush
metal plated draedon plush
Why is yharim a hater
Personally I want a permafrost plush
I love my middle aged man plush
Thats a whole elderly fym
You are prob older then me
Then I'm olderaxia
we all need it
extremely official world map of clamerty 100% 2025 no virus official
(continent 4 may seem larger than heartlands but that's only because of polar distortion)
major spelling mistake
Netherlands
no
Yes
there are no netherlands in calamity
i will riot until cryogen becomes a living being
There
Then live in chaos forever
actual rotten place
Are Netherlands in the nether
ibuprofen
more
Can you put in the Netherlands
Please put in Netherlands instead of heartlands
the joke isn't funny stop pinging me
what joke
netherlands thing, just shut up about it
Why do you dislike Netherlands
my head hurts and i'm not in the best mood
anyways i'm gonna add info from the nuclear autism masterdoc to the gods & dragons chart
sorry if i sound rude btw
already having a headache from sleeping for 10 hours and then also feeling a migraine coming up will do that
i probably should before my migraine fully kicks in
You should put xeroc on top because he's #goat
xeroc hasn't made a direct appearance yet so no
Dammit
though xeroc is at the top of the "not directly appeared in-game" group
Good enough
Boss rush
Totally xeroc
no, explode
Kinda related to Xeroc
I wonder if perfect ascensions keep people in more of a human form than imperfect ones.
Because Silva looks fairly similar and we know Xeroc will have hair so he'll probably be at least mostly humanoid.
we dont know, silva can shapeshift to bypass the god shiftings
While the inperfect ascensions all vary a ton.
Like Agnus was humanoid but weird, SG was just an orb, Providence was kinda humanoid but made if rocks and such, Tyrian and Otonilou seemed to stay similar to a regular Ilmeran but we don't know what they looked like beforehand.
Tyrian gained a huge handcannon
I don't know, maybe Tyrian was a member of the ever famous Handcannon Shark family.
Tyrian secretly a pistol shrimp
pumper prawn
wait what cei started atoms at some point?
Writers writing? Perish the thought.
Die
I'm not the thought.
Any proof you’re not
Mods rename me to “melonius axiom” pls
I am thinking of you so you are thought
Are you thinking of me, or are you thinking of the concept of me you have established in your own cognition?
Too many layer you too much deep thought
I suppose you're not the thought then.
everyones perception of everyone is different
@cloud ibex
don't we always look at the person from the concept of theirs we have in our head?
the deep
mentioned
Mayhaps.
psychology boringgg
I'd take a lot of ego to be so dismissive, a super ego if you will.
You think, therefore you are
i dont thought
therefore i dont am
stupid quote anyway
a wall exist
a wall does not think
Hey guys
What do you think aureus would look like from the back
His design looks like he has no back legs or anything
Probably still warped from the infection.
i built every calamity boss in minecraft once, i can send you a ss of aureus's back later
I know that scaling in calamity was nerfed, and I want to know one thing... Why didn't they rationalize it? Because, let's be honest, there are things that can be fixed, I think.
What does this mean
Yep ¿ that's bad? 🤨 In addition my English is not very good ,Im just questioning if thats a congruent dessicion in an objetive way (the nerf of the lore)
It's not inherently bad, but the translation quality seems low.
What exactly was 'nerfed' without being rationalized.
For reference, a nerf in English means something that was made weaker in terms of gamebalancing.
did you build every exo full size
no i did it before 1.5
Aw
but i did build a 100 block long dog
Tuff
1.5 was four years ago. Feel old yet?
I am referring to the lore powerscale context,not the gameplay, by the way i can rationalize the old lore to a more congruent lore
It's the anniversary.
old lore didn't really have a consistent power scale
The old lore did not really have cohesive power scaling.
Everyone could do whatever the writer felt like it at the time.
Old lore xeroc beat goku
It can be repaired.
Yharim on two different occasions managed to curse the strongest mages.
Despite the fact that Yharim did not know magic.
Old Lore very much relied on doing what seemed cool rather than what was consistent or narratively relevant.
the main reasoning for current lore'ss power scale is to make events actually impactful
there would be no impact to Calamitas incinerating an ocean if she could destroy a planet
The new continuity would not be able to function if characters could blow up planets or anything close
Now that I think about it, the second form of the devourer of gods must have been the full power of a multidimensional being, which causes its visible section to mutate as a manifestation of its full power.
Dog just puts on armour for phase 2
DoG, in both the old and new lore, is just wearing armour during phase two.
That's why it looks different.
calamity simply doesn't need to reach planetary levels of power
it doesn't bring anything of value to the story
I too use my multidimensional powers to put on clothes in the morning
He gets overconfident and attempts to fight you unarmoured in both cases, then when he sees you're actually a threat he arms himself.
If you are 3D and a character from higher dimensions tries to kill you, the 3D section of this enemy will change to a look because of its power.
Actually makes me curious, was the galaxy tail ever actually something special, or did he just have it because it looked cool? Because to be fair, it looked pretty cool
Not entirely sure what that has to do with anything.
A lot of things were because they looked cool.
Fair enough then
it just looked cool
lowering the scale makes feats more impressive because when scales get too large they kinda just lose meaning
yeah
I mean that the entire body of the devourer of gods is not an avatar.
DoG is just putting on armour
This just isnt seen in its sprites rn cause they werent made for showing that
what are you talking about
i think something may be lost in translation
Yeah
The physiological characteristics of the devourer of gods
He really is just a giant serpent. Not some 4D monster beyond comprehension.
The power of the sun is stronger then DoGs boss in new lore
well
his internals are confusing as shit but you can still very much comprehend him
Since when is a 4D being beyond comprehension?
since always 
Since you were a 3D being.
Dog still not 4D
Which I suppose should be now, unless you're secretly Bill Cipher.
The only thing I see of the devourer of gods is a multifaceted serpent, of which only the 3D section is visible.
I'm a bit confused here, because no part of DoG is 3D
DoG is a giant purple worm with an ego the size of saturn
That's because it exists in three dimensions. X, Y and Z.
the devour of gods is a cylinder
the entire thing is a 2D sprite
Theres nothing indicating its a 4D creature
It's just my interpretation.
it's
objectively wrong
In lore not in-game
The sun is still beyond dogs boss
In game, it's still just a big serpent.
Yeah in lore the guys boss is below the sun
it's still wrong in-lore
Is dog squishy when without his power armor
Not from the fourth dimension.
Yep
...maybe.
Someone have the dog reaprites
dog has never been a 4d being
iirc his skin was described as being leathery and slimy
Thank you
DoG is just a purple worm who puts on armor in phase 2
Why do I feel that section 3D still applies consistently to the lore?(The Sprite looks good)
are you maybe misinterpreting the distortion?
Ok, I think your translator really isn't working.
Somehow I only just noticed that he has a little indent on his head where the forehead gem in his armor is
That's kinda funny
When you fight the Devourer of Gods, you are perceiving all of the Devourer of Gods.
It is not a vessel or a fragment of a super dimensional being.
It is a big worm with an ego.
When you kill it, he dies, and he doesn't come back.
Does DoG taste good
Prob not
probably not
Venison.
Does it have a grape flavour since it’s purple
time is a circle
Everyone knows purple things taste like purple, not grape.
Truly
If it does, then the answer if a definite no
this is true
It's not that my translator is malfunctioning, but rather that I am specifically referring to the fact that if the devourer of gods had truly been multiversal in the old lore, it would not be an avatar but a 3D section of it in the form of a worm.
I'm fairly certain in the old lore he was literally just a worm.
Like, a normal worm that's really big.
Was dog ever multiversal in old lore
Maybe they're referring to the scrapped Devourer of Universes?
Because, if we are honest, a multidimensional being does not have avatars, it has sections that are visible to the dimensionality of an entity that perceives them.
DoG was like a gigantic fraud in old lore
Like, a normal, biological, terrestrial worm.
Why are you hating on grape flavour
like his biggest accomplishment was biting off a chunk of astrum deus
the buffed god one
Even so, there are no such beings in Calamity.
I've learned my lesson with grape Fanta...
Similarly, Storm Weaver was also just a normal worm.
DoG used to be slightly less of a jerk, so they were chill... somewhat.
On powerscale, the old lore made many mistakes.
Also yeah, Noxus most likely had a direct influence on DoG, but as far as we know, he's basically a minion
You can say that again.
What if dog was a worm before noxus made him purple
Don't leak my theories.
I can go to the point to where he was poorly supported in his power scale with his bosses in the old lore.
How is a water wraith gaming
This statement is incomprehensible.
Maybe try a different translator?
WaterWraithGaming.
I can go to the points of the old lore of the Game,that have errors and fallacies in powerscale
It is well known that the Old Lore was not consistent or reasonable in such places.
very profound conversation i see
I would like to make a more consistent version of the old lore.
I once considered such a thing myself.
After they release the Wrath of the Gods mod
I also wonder one thing:
Is Xeroc more powerful than the nameless deity?
Not even close
nameless is omnipotent
Nameless Deity is a non-canonical representation of the concept of God.
Only to discover, disappointed, that the new lore nerfed it.
Nameless Deity was specifically designed based on an old version of Xeroc that was...basically God
So probably not.
Nameless Deity wasn't in the Old Lore either.
new lore xeroc is mountain level
I think
Xeroc can control the sun.
xeroc full power may evaporate a galaxy (yes i made that assumption up)
still not enough to match nd
I am referring to a hypothetical scenario.
...no.
He can, but the sun in Calamity is also way smaller than the real life sun, I believe, so that's worth considering
okie dokie 👌 (like i said i made that up)
I know for sure that the regular stars are
It is still a giant mass of energy bigger than the moon.
Which Xeroc can impose their will upon.
And is even able to take it away if he so chose.
actually no, not evaporate as in using one simple attack, but can still cause massive damage
...come to think of it, I wonder what the scale of the Calamity solar system looks like
Because as far as we know, the moon could be the size of a planetoid
There's a cluster of planets.
if Nameless Deity existed in calamity lore, it would be omnipotent
One inhabited. One formerly inhabited.
I moreso meant size-wise, because all we know is that some things are smaller than they are in real life
but there is no capital g God in Calamity
Not really by how much
because there isn't a need for it
What would the old, fixed lore be called?
new lore
Terraria is at least big enough to have five continents.
Is that all?
hello moon entity
cleaned my house, aunt gave me a christmas gift, and now i just came back from da shower
Hello Yharim's biggest fan.
This is a good point, but funny enough, it's also leading me to consider for the first time that Terraria...might also just be really small, so this scale thing might not even matter for the conversation
NOT WHAT I'M CALLED
Because I think the continent you're on is like...15K feet wide at most
look ok i do like yharim hes a cool ass character but cmon you couldve picked like
gloomborf or gorthus or calamitas or something
In game size is not even slightly accurate.
hello calamitas
I'll accept that one
cheese
cheese calamity mod
anyways what's convo abt
It kind of seems like it is, since 3 feet (about a block and a half) is about the length of an average adult's stepping distance or something
It really, really isn't.
graaahhhh
Do you know how deep the Abyss is in-game?
The depth of the sea floor in real life.
The normal sea floor.
im going to kill you
Really? I could swear I remember hearing that in school
old lore powerscaling i guess
It is not even a trench.
It is the floor.
you can't estimate the size of an entire continent from a single slice
if things were scaled properly the game would fucking SUCK
estimating things in-universe based on the game would be jank
itd take actual fucking hours to get like a single vein of ore
Just assume things are smaller ingame for the sake of it being a 2D Game
not even
just
If they weren't, the heartlands would be
it being a game warrants it being smaller
Smaller than most islands
I recall some people think the Abyss is intended to be like, Mariana Trench level deep.
Which is multiple times deeper than it is in-game.
Because the in-game size is EXTREMELY not to scale.
That too yeah, just specifying 2d so people also remember, there's literally a 3rd plane we never explore
Also yeah i assume abyss is prob
mariana trench deep or so
more or less
maybe a bti deeper
maybe a bit shallolwer
but around that ballpark
The old lore with the multiverse power scale fixed in a coherent manner would be like:
This also puts Azafure in a more reasonable position of deep into the crust.
And not slightly below the surface.
The old lore's issues weren't just
the powerscale being wack
It just wasn't. a good narrative
It was a bunch of disjointed concepts with a lack of direction or structure
Everything happened because it was cool, not because it made sense.
Again, the whole 'out magicked the two best at magic despite not knowing magic'.
motivations barely existed
And yes, no character motives.
Old lore was less an actual story andmore just a bunch of sorta interesting concepts
it was wide as the sea and deep as a puddle
yep
Are you assuming that the more power a character has, the more narrative depth they lose?
no
What, no?
Old lore characters where just shallow because they Weren't Written Well it has nothing to do with powerscaling
Oh, misunderstanding
You can absolutely make a story with higher powerscaling than cal and it still be well writte n
Old lore just wasn't one of them 👍
I mean, I don't know if it affects the narrative in general.
dragon ball or something i think
The powerscaling had similar issues, being that characters could do whatever was cool at the time, regardless of their intended abilities.
idk i haven't watched it
Madoka Magica thoguh it's kind of a silly example because the show's powerscaling goes from like fiarly average to ???????????????????????? what the fuck
within some episodes
Despite that it's still my favorite anime ever and its writing is peak
Gurenn Lagann also
like yharim punching a table so hard it killed everyone in the room and then losing to golem
@pliant ruin
Or his sword being a post-Plantera weapon.
And then there being a better version.
I don't know what you mean by that
I don't know if it affects the narrative
What is It
They thought 'it'd be cool if you could get his sword' and then did it.
If the character becomes powerful, does it affect the narrative of the story?
and his dead mom's bow is a post moonlord weapon inexplicably
I mean y eah it absolutely does
Whether for better or worse though, depends /shrug
think of it this way
You can't shorthand it into something as simple as "stronger characters r worse" or "stronger characters r better"
a character wants to Kill Everything
depends on what you want to write
said character is fully capable of Killing Everything
[I am also writing another story to find out what to do, so I would like to know this before I do it.]
said character inexplicably does not Kill Everything because ???
A character's strenght should fit in with the narrative you want to write, not the opposite, most of the time, i think
true!
Attack potency and reality warping of the character protection
???
I think this guy wanted to go into #powerscaling_discussion and took the wrong turn
???
Is the terrarian able to kill everyone because we can mine up the whole world
???
Uhmm?
No, blocks aren't people and don't get rights, so it doesn't count.
maybe
lunar hook tooltip says you can grapple the moon so the terrarian is planetary level
Ok looking at ur bio your first language isn't english
What translator are you using?
Nono we mine up the world and everyone else falls down because the world is flat
you just figured that out?
cheese just got here
Had a hunch
Word is Tyrannosaurus Rex shaped.
Source: Dude, trust me.
Deepl
And the lone survivor will be a single Eye of Cthulhu
specifically a dino nugget
I've never heard of that translator.
Is it better or worse than Google Translate, anyone know?
i would be shocked if it's better
If xeroc had a stand would it be the sun
Dosen't seem that bad from what i'm testing, google translator is ol' reliable tho, maybe try that one
Of course not.
Xeroc's stand would be [REDACTED], which would let them [DATA EXPUNGED].
I mean that the Terrarian might not destroy the environment during his battle because he protects the entire environment with his reality manipulation powers(in case he got them just in case, based on Terraria lore)
xeroc's stand would be the rock
SOMEONE GET THE IMAGE!
the terrarian can't manipulate reality
That's not the image.
Now that I see the boss fight of supreme calamitas, it's a domain expansion
The Terrarian dosen't have any particular lore
It is Up to You 🫵
Blank slate, not really an actual character
What.
ITS UP TO YOU TO DECIDE THE TERRARIANS LORE
the terrarian is effectively your original character
so you decide everything about them
within reason*
Supreme Calamitas fight= domain expansion
idk what a domain expansion is but i Don't Think it's That
jjk thing
What happens if I decide that I don’t get to decide the terrarian’s lore
A domain expansion is an advanced technique in Jujutsu Kaisen that creates a separate, artificial space by combining the user's innate domain with a cursed technique inside a barrier. Within this "sure-hit" domain, the user's abilities are amplified, and their cursed technique is guaranteed to hit any target inside.
u explode



