lore-discussion

[wanton pendant]

Reading comprehension is seriously lacking in this region.

[wheat walrus]

what is it w water always attacking the reading comprehension

[wanton pendant]

You could name the boss 'Not The Eye of Cthulhu' and people would ask about Cthulhu.

[wheat walrus]

while not knowing what a death of the author is at that

[wanton pendant]

I know what that means.

[wanton pendant]

Boiling you.

[plucky juniper]

You could name the boss "Eye of WaterWraithGaming" and that might make people realize, "hey, maybe cthulhu might be not canon"

[wheat walrus]

canon is what i like it be

[stoic lark]

ok john xeroc

[wanton pendant]

People will ask if the Devourer of Gods eats gods.

[wheat walrus]

which means green rathalos is canon as i speak

[tropic oak]

thank u :D

[young socket]

False6. Jen loves baseball.

[wanton pendant]

They will simply begin saying WaterWraithGaming must also be Cthulhu, somehow.

[plucky juniper]

Because he's called "Devourer of Gods"

what did you expect

[young socket]

correction

do

[wanton pendant]

It to be obvious.

[plucky juniper]

tbf your name is water and wraith

[young socket]

people do ask if dog eats gods

[wanton pendant]

I am aware.

[wanton pendant]

I am also aware.

[plucky juniper]

and you could, even if its a stretch, say those words apply to Cthulhu.

So yeah that's on me

[wanton pendant]

Exactly.
But even if it was 'Eye of Monsters', people will go for Cthulhu because that's what it was called in Vanilla.

[wheat walrus]

make eoc funny floating teto drills

[pulsar ocean]

No

[plucky juniper]

Good point, and thats probably why Calamity won't rename vanilla bosses

[wanton pendant]

Renaming them could also risk causing confusion for new players.

[pulsar ocean]

What if they just made Cthulhu like a distant relative of ml that xeroc slimed out and the remains are roaming terraria

[wheat walrus]

oh my god kozz did it

[wanton pendant]

Finally, a good explanation.

It's just Terraria's old one.

[pulsar ocean]

It works

[dusk laurel]

horror

[wheat walrus]

ok what if instead it's just

[icy veldt]

Give the EoC a new phase between eye-form and mouth-form where it grows a nose

[wheat walrus]

eoc was part of ml's army

and to this day roam the land

bc they were never fully cleared out

[plucky juniper]

There was layers to this idea anyhow

[wheat walrus]

make cthulhu nakarkos duh

[wanton pendant]

That's just making Cthulhu canon.

[plucky juniper]

What's your problem with Cthulhu

[wheat walrus]

if by canon you mean the big beam nakarkos shoots then yea

[plucky juniper]

did he obliterate your village and consigned your kin to horrible fates so badly that you want him to suffer that 1000-fold

[wheat walrus]

yes, he didn't even spare the babies

[wanton pendant]

Because randomly dropping in public domain characters half-way into writing something out of nowhere doesn't seem like the greatest writing plan.

[wheat walrus]

now turn him into a pile of literal bones

[wanton pendant]

Dracula boss when?

[plucky juniper]

True.

But it can't be that much of a problem.

[wanton pendant]

Or should Mickey Mouse be an integral character?

[plucky juniper]

That's just your personal taste.

[pulsar ocean]

Is everyone from the eclipse event non canon

[plucky juniper]

ANYWAYS

[wanton pendant]

The eclipse is real.

Not the people.

They're figments of your imagination.

Along with Christmas and Halloween.

Along with Metal Gear.

[fierce pagoda]

is that whay they are?

[wanton pendant]

I'm making a joke.

[plucky juniper]

Since the intended lore of EoC and BoC is that they're the essence of dead gods becoming alive on their own, and the Eye of Cthluhu does genuinely resemble a minion summoned by Moon Lord, I could see people conflating the god-spawned monstrosity with the eyeballs summoned by the monster from space that resembles a mythical sea monster

[fierce pagoda]

oh whats the main god behind eye of cthulhu

[wheat walrus]

im fovos

[plucky juniper]

and since I'm sure Wraith isn't getting it, said sea monster is mythical, i.e. it does not exist

[dusk laurel]

we dunno

[wanton pendant]

Eye of Cthulhu is only really implied to be from dead gods.

[fierce pagoda]

aww

[wanton pendant]

So it's just the 'Cthulhu means monster' explanation.

[pulsar ocean]

ok goodnight it's 4 am 💤😴

[wheat walrus]

sleep

[fierce pagoda]

good night!

[plucky juniper]

Go back to bed, I think you're a little too mad today.

[wanton pendant]

Stop.

[dusk laurel]

what did i do!!!!!!!

[wanton pendant]

Post that thing.

[dusk laurel]

this is blasphemous

[plucky juniper]

WaterWraithGaming after being rude for 1 hour:

[wheat walrus]

happens to the best of us

[tropic oak]

i know everything baout xeroc because i am xeroc

[wanton pendant]

Hello Yharim.

[wheat walrus]

xeroc when i paint my equipment in vantablack

[wanton pendant]

That would kill you.

[wheat walrus]

no, i absorb his light and idk use it back against him

🔥

[icy veldt]

What a peculiar creature! I shall dissolve it in fancy magically-enhanced acid

[wheat walrus]

well actually this is xeroc so

☀️

[dusk laurel]

🌞

[fierce pagoda]

So Xeroc can move at the speed of light right?

or no

[wheat walrus]

terrarian is you sticker or smth

[eager bluff]

depends

[icy veldt]

🔥🪨💎 🦋➡️😺

[frozen zodiac]

does moving at the speed of light necessarily mean you have hyper fast reflexes

[fierce pagoda]

the terrarian decides if Xeroc moves at the speed of light

[tropic oak]

more than likely, yes

[wanton pendant]

I'd hope so.

[wheat walrus]

i kinda get what wwg says bc vantablack absorbs light

[tropic oak]

i chose to believe that the terrarian's innate ability is to respawn

insane power

[wanton pendant]

No because Vantablack is like, cancerous or something?

[wheat walrus]

so it means xeroc's attacks fully get you

[frozen zodiac]

asking a genie for superspeed but it goes so fast and you dont expect it so you just become paint on a wall

[eager bluff]

it can be

[wanton pendant]

I don't remember the specifics.

[wheat walrus]

i already lwk beat it

now i need to beat xeroc so

🔥

[fierce pagoda]

you beat cancer!?

[eager bluff]

if you inhale too much of it yes you will get lung cancer but generally if you know your way around it you should be fine

[frozen zodiac]

how fast would you actually need to hit something to be reduced to liquid

[wheat walrus]

ill know on the 4th (basically tmrw)

but most likely yes

[fierce pagoda]

genuinely praying for u

[wanton pendant]

Messed up question.
Depends.

[fierce pagoda]

🌨️

snowfall

so if we assume Xeroc moves at the speed of light

[eager bluff]

however fast you would need to hit something for the blow to transfer enough energy to bring something to its melting point

[fierce pagoda]

do you think he could accelerate normal matter to relativistic speeds

like matter approaching light speed

[wanton pendant]

They control light, not matter.

[fierce pagoda]

aww.. so they couldnt like, generate enough energy to like super charge a normal matter projectile?

[wanton pendant]

Can a nuclear bomb be used to fuel a car?

[icy veldt]

Yes

[wanton pendant]

Concerning.

[fierce pagoda]

if you could harvest the energy

[icy veldt]

My car harvests nuclear bomb explosions just fine

[fierce pagoda]

okok let me ask this,

can Xeroc produce infinite primordial light

or does he run out

and have to recharge through means

idk like eating or something

or does he just naturally generate infinite primordial light

[wanton pendant]

I would assume that Domains give the greatest amount of control of what they're related to, and don't just give infinite power.
However, I'd assume Xeroc is so powerful that running out and needing to recover is not exactly an issue either way.

[fierce pagoda]

yeah alright, what about exo prisms producing infinite energy tho?

didnt that come from godly power?

[wanton pendant]

Exaggeration.

Near limitless, not literally infinite.
It would violate thermodynamics.

[wheat walrus]

last i checked they just say limitless, period

[fierce pagoda]

It wouldnt be too farfetched to say divine power ignores the laws of thermodynamics would it?

[wanton pendant]

Draedon also brings up DoG would be violating thermodynamics if he was actually destroying energy.

[wheat walrus]

which is a pretty important distinction considering that both when speaking about calamitas and auric souls, both bestiary and yharim specify "nigh" limitless, further pointing to this being intentional on the writers' behalf

[wheat walrus]

then i think this says something about the world of calamity

[fluid cargo]

why is providence so angry at night

[wanton pendant]

'Unless he blatantly defied the laws of thermodynamics, which is most unlikely, the mass-energy must have been transferred elsewhere. Where to, I am not sure. I doubt this matter will ever be resolved now that the Devourer has been culled.'

[wanton pendant]

The answer is simple.
She isn't.

It's an outdated game mechanic.

Blue Providence has nothing to do with the time of day.

[wheat walrus]

there's also to consider that this doesn't rule out draedon himself breaking the laws,,,

[fierce pagoda]

so exo prisms DO produce infinite energy?

[wheat walrus]

draedon is also the last character im expecting to speak in hyperbolic terms about something like this

[wanton pendant]

I am trying to avoid using dev statements since I'm sure one of them did just say infinite power isn't really a thing.

[fierce pagoda]

alrighty

[wheat walrus]

furthermore, he states this on sea prisms

The Ilmeran crystals that you know as "Sea Prisms" are self-illuminating and provide a weak electric charge indefinitely, even when tapped by circuitry.

"weak electric charge indefinitely", that, by any and all means, is what infinite energy is

[wheat walrus]

dev statements moment when you have the character outright describe it to you

[wheat walrus]

right before saying that, he also says this

After experimentation with a plethora of different candidates failed to bring results, I chose to approach the problem of limitless power more directly.

[fierce pagoda]

hey that would mean that, given enough time, draedon could use that energy to charge a lump of mass to near light speed, and the make a relativistic kill vehicle

planetary calamity inbound

[wheat walrus]

he also describes the exo-prisms like this

Exo Prisms emit a self-sustaining resonance of particles that is unlike any other phenomena I have observed.

"self-sustaining", that, once again, is limitless energy

[wanton pendant]

There is the consideration that the amount of energy is so vast that depleting it is in practice impossible, and as such Draedon isn't aware it could be depleted.

[wheat walrus]

i doubt this is the case because then it wouldn't be described as self-sustaining

[wheat walrus]

i did already talk about hypotheticals on how limitless energy could work scientifically in sscls, though i dont think that's the concern

if anything, the concern would be the aforementioned thing on DoG

[wanton pendant]

Either way, it requires Draedon to be wrong.

Either violating thermodynamics is not as big a concern as he presents, or he has not made infinite energy.

[wheat walrus]

Unless he blatantly defied the laws of thermodynamics, which is most unlikely, the mass-energy must have been transferred elsewhere.

Though Yharim once believed that the essence he devours is utterly and completely erased from existence, it is a fundamental rule of creation that energy cannot be destroyed– it can only be transferred from one form to another.

however, remember what i said earlier about the world of calamity, how this would speak more about it than draedon

read carefully the second line

[wanton pendant]

Are you claiming that Exotic Resonance is drawing energy from a different location, or the more concerning that energy cannot be destroyed but can be created, which I'm sure would have exceedingly concerning ramifications.

[wheat walrus]

I guess this is because what DoG would be doing is destroying energy, rather than creating it (hence only mentioning destroying), but Draedon doing self-sustained energy implies the latter option you mention

"Energy can neither be created nor destroyed" would be if this was 1:1 to real life laws

[wanton pendant]

Exotic Resonance functioning like Cyclops' eye lasers wouldn't be the worst explanation for how it works.

[wheat walrus]

now, if energy can be created through specific means, but not destroyed, what would this mean for calamity

reverse heat death, maybe

[wanton pendant]

That is one.

[wheat walrus]

but then there's the distortion

[eager bluff]

heat death but not because it cold but because it Hot

[wheat walrus]

greendeed

[wanton pendant]

Cold death, because there is no more cold.

[wheat walrus]

i think the distortion is key to this so we're gonna have to wait for more info on it

but for now, my main assumption is that energy in calamity can be created and that's the pinnacle of the energy race in the world of calamity but not destroyed

[wanton pendant]

Then there's the question about why is infinite energy contained in sea prisms of all things.

[wheat walrus]

this is dev statement stuff, but if i recall it had to do w otonilou

so then this points fingers to gods, and likely dragons too

[wanton pendant]

In such case, how did Otonilou achieve it, since Auric Souls are 'nigh limitless', and Godly Souls being capable of it doesn't seem to have a good reasoning.

[eager bluff]

magic

a whole lot of magic

[wheat walrus]

yea that's the interesting part

id say the quick answer would be magic like doobie says

[eager bluff]

magic isnt the whole story theres obv something more going on there but the quickest and easiest answer is just a whole fuckton of magic

[wheat walrus]

but i proved my limitless energy thing in part because of wording throughout calamity being consistent about things not being truly limitless with the only exception being draedon, so it makes one think

how did we go from nigh-limitless auric souls to limitless object that's indirectly derived of them,,,

we might wanna point fingers to otonilou in specific then

either her, or her domain of electricity as a whole

though i think the answer might lie somewhere in her using her domain in an unique manner

to allow this

[wanton pendant]

The options primarily are:
Otonilou was unusually powerful.
Draedon is wrong.
Draedon is exaggerating.
Exotic Resonance is actually teleporting energy from somewhere else, meaning production of energy isn't a concern.

[wheat walrus]

i think it might be less about otonilou's sheer power

and more her ingenuity maybe

[frozen zodiac]

how much pressure would you have to put exo energy under to even attempt to exhaust it

[wheat walrus]

if it's infinite it's never exhausting

[wanton pendant]

At least as hard to push an Auric Dragon's, a God's or Calamitas' power to exhaustion.

[tropic oak]

xeropc

[wheat walrus]

what i believe is she likely found a funny loophole in physics to do this,,,

[wanton pendant]

I guess Draedon could also just be lying so you don't figure out a weakness of his machines, since he would likely want to challenge you in the future.

[eager bluff]

i mean like

he has no reason to not admit a flaw in his machines

[frozen zodiac]

i havent read the draetalk dialogue in a while, does he not at least say something like that about the mechanical trio compared to the exos?

[wheat walrus]

maybe it's to do with my hypothetical limitless energy thing; found a way to invert spacetime folds to let energy in instead of out, the problem is that this means that conservation of energy in calamity isn't truly a thing and gradually leaks out regardless

[eager bluff]

especially if his thought process is that theres just so much energy in those crystals that, while it may not be infinite, the energy will last far longer than any reasonable person would ever expect a fight to last

[wheat walrus]

for context on what i was talking about, my hypothesis for spacetime inversion working uses this as a basis

[wanton pendant]

He sought to remove their free will in future projects.

[frozen zodiac]

with the wulfrum prosthetic i wonder how the power of exo energy could be used with enhancing physical properties or if there's a hard limit to it

[wheat walrus]

all i can say about limitless energy and the law of conservation in calamity rn is that both otonilou and distortion are likely important players here

[eager bluff]

the idea of "oh hes lying so you dont exploit a weakness" doesnt work if said weakness is the fact that after multiple years or decades or even centuries of constant activation power in the exos will run out

thats not something anyone can reasonably plan around in their own favor

[wheat walrus]

rly hoping we get stuff on this in the future rather than just leaving us in a mysterious bubble that kinda contradicts itself

well, ultimately there isn't anything wrong w how things are now since, physics in fiction lol, but

:3

[frozen zodiac]

like if you took out a lot of a human body and turned it into machine how far could it go in surpassing a full human

[sinful adder]

We already know this is the case

Conservation of energy doesn't exist in calamity

Either that or reversing entropy is possible consistently and at large scale

[cosmic zenith]

This is more of my opinion because honestly, I think Draedon is (a bit frustratingly) the rulebreaker when it comes to neatly organized universal limits

But I'd say it's the latter, though it's not as easily as it seems

There is one factor that is often overlooked when discussing the second law:

How does ordinary magic work under it?

Either it doesn't and the second law is wrong (despite being mentioned by an omniscient source), or it still works and Calamity's reality is a lot weirder than it seems at first glance

[light linden]

hi stip

may I ask a question about draedon?

[cosmic zenith]

Sure!

[abstract hedge]

Do we even have a clue how anything magic related works aside from using mana and having better knowledge can make you better like permafrost mentions?

[cosmic zenith]

I don't think so
It's quite mysterious currently

[light linden]

is his recon body made from dubious plating?

[abstract hedge]

Yeah from what I remember only really stuff related to permafrost and calamitas ever hint at stuff aside from mana related stuff.

[cosmic zenith]

Hmm
Maybe partially

That's not really something we established

[neat jetty]

Probably more like the rover bots

I forgot what they’re called

[light linden]

androombas?

repair units?

[neat jetty]

No the scout units

Probably

[digital anchor]

Honestly I’m trying to find a good background on Noxus

Who are they?

[craggy jacinth]

whos noxus

you mean aoe?

[pliant ruin]

Distortion creature that's really powerful and DoG's "Master", being the one the divine essence DoG eats is siphoned to

We don't really know much more than that as it is intentionally kept vague ingame as of now

[digital anchor]

Tbh I thought Noxus had a relation to the Astral Infection, guess I was wrong

[long bloom]

could not be less related

[woeful hatch]

That shit was in old as fuck lore

Calamity lore has gone through an essentially full rewrite

[digital anchor]

Yeah, I wasn’t around for that so when I was newer I probably accidentally consumed lore videos that were outdated…

[long bloom]

huh? idr that

it must've been post goozma right

[woeful hatch]

Yeah when Noxus was still a bomb made of dark god corpses

It also emanated astral infection

[long bloom]

what

oh fabsol you continue to astound me

[cosmic zenith]

That wasn't necessarily his idea

But yes, it was a thing

[long bloom]

the fuck is a silken phantom

[cosmic zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/hop-on-silksong-silksong-hollow-knight-hollow-knight-silksong-gif-1905624118228358868

[sinful adder]

Oh! @cosmic zenith I have another question about draedon if you're available

Would it be feasible for someone to salvage parts of recon bodies and build a new draedon-like being from them?

(maybe I shouldn't ping for that, sorry)

[woeful hatch]

I'm not Venus but I presume while you could rebuild the body, it wouldn't have the artificial intelligence

So it'd be like a body without a brain

And even just to rebuild it properly it'd probably take quite a bit of skill in mechanics depending on how badly it's broken

[sinful adder]

I specifically mean to replicate the brain parts

I'm wondering if you could put draedon brain "cells" back together into a new mind

[woeful hatch]

Well a recon body probably doesn't even need a brain

Just something to communicate with the central intelligence

[sinful adder]

Is there a central intelligence?

A centralized intelligence is more vulnerable. I would expect draedon to have expanded it's mind from it's original single body into a network

[woeful hatch]

Well I doubt you can properly fit the entirety of draedon's intelligence within a recon body with other functions too

Hardware still occupies space

Maybe it's not just ONE central intelligence and it's a few

But still

[sinful adder]

Draedon started in a single body. We know this

I'm making an educated guess that the subsequent bodies are based on this original one

[woeful hatch]

Why would they

I presume recon bodies are fitted for recon

[jaunty niche]

I'm not venus either, but I personally interpret it that Draedon is the only successful AI over hundreds of years just because his builder sacrificed their own soul to make it

Souls in calamity is a special resource, like gods turn dragonic souls into their unique godly powers, without getting occupied by the dragon's mind

Draedon himself also tried to build machines with souls, and the mech bosses doesn't inherit any mind but only have a vague aim of attacking non-Yharim beings

Then I think it's completely possible that the builder of Draedon consumed their own soul to build this extremely good AI

[sinful adder]

The rest of the world doesn't have advanced technology. I don't think it has anything to do with souls

Regular souls aren't that special in calamity as far as we know. Only auric souls are

[limpid saddle]

Yeah i'll give Ben that Draedon's soul or lack thereof isnt really a relevant part of the equation

& while I am also not Venus, given 'Draedon' is a collective network, I imagine the recon bodies are only outfitted with basic recievers for piloting automatically or manually by the Draedon AI

Maybe if you ripped up & re-built a server stored in one of his labs that are a part of this network you could hypothetically create a new AI

but it's very up in the air

[sinful adder]

We don't actually know whether draedon is a network and we don't know which things contain the brains if so

It seems likely

It would be even easier if the lab servers are his neurons though

At the same time, it's "main" mind must be able to fit in a single body, because that's how it started

[limpid saddle]

I wouldn't agree with that

We know Draedon is a collective, whether he's stored on a server or not

[sinful adder]

Draedon was fully sentient in their original body

Oh we do?

[limpid saddle]

He may have started small but you need to consider the fact that he, y'know, grew

[sinful adder]

So, my headcanon is that draedon has a single main body somewhere that does most of the thinking, but has replicated their "brain" material in smaller quantities to run specific tasks and machines

[limpid saddle]

Given his incredible wealth of information there would inherently need to be something larger or several things spread over it to store that information

[sinful adder]

Did draedon actually grow or was his original mind capable of all that learning? A human brain can store a lot of information too.

[limpid saddle]

Thats true, but consider he has been alive & learning for, what, 600 years?

[sinful adder]

True

I imagine it's a mix of both

[limpid saddle]

Though thats fair

It's easier to interpret anything like to have a 'main body' over a formless transcience

[sinful adder]

Well

Kind of

The main body thing is likely only the case because he started out that way, and it would be more compatible

I imagine it could also be like a rain world iterator, where there are giant "brain cells" comparable to individual brains sitting around that all connect together

[limpid saddle]

I like to imagine he keeps his 'main body' in good condition out of attachment over anything else

But given Draedon is Draedon I imagine he's created something more compatible with his own neurology than what he started with

[light linden]

also

aren't his exo prisms literally his brain's computational power in the palm of your hand?

imagine if he hooked up even 10 of em

[woeful hatch]

Exo prisms as far as I know are energy sources

Not computing hardware

[reef nova]

It'd make sense, I think.

[agile matrix]

ive always thought them as similar to quartz

[snow mountain]

not even I would say that 😭

[split mortar]

Can you not

[pulsar ocean]

not even incattus would say that

[thick slate]

☹️

[snow mountain]

Be more like Incattus.

[mighty zenith]

hi never say that again please thanks

[snow mountain]

chat what is his significance to cal lore

[mighty zenith]

slüg

[snow mountain]

i kinda love it

[reef nova]

He's Draedon's pet

Glob

[snow mountain]

remind me of exo slug in three hours

[reef nova]

(Make it canon, devs)

[split mortar]

Slime god if irl

[snow mountain]

im absorbing these ideas, call me the auric soul of gluttony

[reef nova]

We should name this guy and make him Dradeon's unofficial (maybe official soon) pet

I was thinking Dradeon would name him Globulus or something idk

[agile matrix]

what was horridly said earlier

[agile matrix]

i thought you were talking about my thing and i was like "whats wrong with quartz"

[split mortar]

We would get shot if we told yyou

[agile matrix]

whats the most general topic

[snow mountain]

draedon cave

[limpid saddle]

a comment regarding the correlation of the exo prisms to the bodily functions of draedon

[agile matrix]

mmmmm

i see

i mean has anyone ever eaten quartz

[limpid saddle]

I cant get more specific or garbos gonna assassinate me

[agile matrix]

maybe its tasty (i know what they said)

insert image of guy saying makima is listening

[limpid saddle]

you mean kishibe?

[agile matrix]

i dont know anime nor manga

i just know the funny

[split mortar]

It from chainsawman

[agile matrix]

yea

[agile matrix]

yea that one

will calamtiy make the aerie 3d or will it be 2d

[pulsar ocean]

praise be to space king

[split mortar]

Dont think calamity has any 3D modelers

[agile matrix]

darn

go ask uhhh

what mod was it

cross referencing rq

[pulsar ocean]

calamity should merge with wotg

[agile matrix]

their lores conflict

they should team up with fargos developmentwise

get a jumpstart for the stuff after sso

[snow mountain]

ragebait moment

[agile matrix]

go ask GaMeterraria for help on the 3d modeling 🙏

[cosmic zenith]

Not quite, since they wouldn't be able to replicate the Draedon AI
You might salvage the tech needed to run it, but not the AI itself

[agile matrix]

making a wulfrum level draedon ai

it just keeps talking about toast

actually, of all the mechanical gizmos we muck around with that arent just blueprints, whats the most impressive technical things we've made

like id say the wulfrum stuff is pretty decent

[woeful hatch]

Well the miracle matter stuff

Canonically we make it

[agile matrix]

i thought we blueprinted that!

[woeful hatch]

And it's something draedon hasn't managed to make either

[agile matrix]

we concocted that outselves ????

[woeful hatch]

No we're the first person ever to STABILIZE miracle matter

Which is also why we get to name it

[agile matrix]

i remember reading a while back summin like "draedon trying to be cool and calculating but also seething his gizmos slick and clean over us naming it fucking "miracle matter""

draedon watching us basically just smash things really really really hard together and synthesizing maybe one of the most technologically potent material ever seen since the worldsoul

the same guy who drank water underwater and the same guy who ate literal rocks

[wanton pendant]

Miracle Matter uses Auric Tesla to stabilise, something hard to both obtain and use. That's why Draedon couldn't have done it first, assuming he even knew Exo Prisms would do that if melted before testing the Exo Mechs.

[split mortar]

And also the 500 other magic stuff only we have

[wanton pendant]

I'm sure Draedon can figure out how to smash souls together he's done it before. Smashing dragon soul juices into dragon rocks is a bit harder.

[pulsar ocean]

does yharon's soul regenerate even if we got some pieces of it

[split mortar]

I imagine yeah otherwise limited rebirths

[reef nova]

Oh god I forgot that "Globulus" comes from that

[snow mountain]

gulp shitto requires gleebglorb to stabilise it

[stark basalt]

Ts was too diabolical

[snow mountain]

why'd you need to mention the user being trans??? its not relevant at all

[reef nova]

Oh

so...that was said

[limpid saddle]

i will refrain from explaining

[snow mountain]

elaborate

[limpid saddle]

is that guy from monster hunter

[wheat walrus]

what do you think

[limpid saddle]

i think i remember the character design from one of the Story's games trailers

[wheat walrus]

I don't remember Espinas in Stories

[reef nova]

ESPINAS!!!!

[wheat walrus]

Greendeed

[snow mountain]

im gonna be real it looks worse for you to not elaborate than actually elaborating

[wheat walrus]

True

[reef nova]

What do you main?????

[wheat walrus]

I doubt ggg meant much w that

[wheat walrus]

Lance or LS depending

[reef nova]

Uhh what was LS again?

oh

long sword

[snow mountain]

yeah im just on a hair trigger when it comes to singling people out

[reef nova]

Honestly I like how the Lance weapons look like, just not really my gameplay

I'm kinda like

moving between weapons

[wheat walrus]

Fair

Iceborne Lance p goated

[reef nova]

I just can't decide on which one I like most

[reef nova]

Especially since some monsters just downright make me mad at the weapon I was trying to main (Fuck you Barioth)

[wheat walrus]

Barioth,,,,

[snow mountain]

cus most of the time its thinly veiled transphobia

[reef nova]

I was enjoying hammer until this fucker showes up in my story

[wheat walrus]

He's p annoying unless it's in Sunbreak w LS

[reef nova]

I'm talking iceborne

[wheat walrus]

I get you but I get the feeling the entire message is meant to be articulate w the pointing out what exactly happened

[wheat walrus]

Iceborne Barioth,,,

[snow mountain]

yeah but why point out the trans part in the first place

[reef nova]

He's just dashing around

it's so annoying

[snow mountain]

that is my point here

[icy veldt]

Reminds me of how DoG tailors his hatred for whomever he's insulting

[wheat walrus]

What I said methinks

He was being weirdly specific on everything so that's awkward

[snow mountain]

oh i see

[wheat walrus]

I'd still like it if elaboration was given when asked thou

[limpid saddle]

All i can say is there a known stereotype in lgbtq+ groups i am associated with of the 'freaky trans women', claiming a large subsection of trans women are what would be considered sexual deviants

[wheat walrus]

Huge lore drop

[limpid saddle]

it was meant to be a lighthearted comment to direct them to appropriate spaces for those kind of jabs & jokes i swear i am NOT transphobic please believe me

[snow mountain]

why single it out? theres literally no point in doing that

[wheat walrus]

I can buy you

[cloud ibex]

???

what the hell are you people talking about

[snow mountain]

i can also buy it it just feels odd

[limpid saddle]

im being put on trial

[wheat walrus]

Started here

[cloud ibex]

☹️

you did not need to repeat what they said

[wanton pendant]

This is a bad time.

[wheat walrus]

Yes that's the part I think mattered more gng

[wanton pendant]

I'll go back to war.

[wheat walrus]

The judge has decided

[cloud ibex]

the "freaky trans person" part is also kinda Weird but especially don't restate what something said when that thing gets deleted

[wheat walrus]

You are sentenced to 10 rounds of Eschaton Judgment by elementless Alatreon

[cloud ibex]

cause something being deletd usually happens for a Reason

[pulsar ocean]

its me sonic.exe

play my game

[limpid saddle]

I mean im just glad i didnt get executed

im gonna go back to my consortium of ghouls & lay low for a while so i dont get murdered or cancelled

[wheat walrus]

executes you

[snow mountain]

irked

[pulsar ocean]

im sonic.executing you

[icy veldt]

Pretty sure buying people is slavery

[warm gull]

titan xeroc

[split mortar]

Add the roleplay to calamity

[pulsar ocean]

what if you bought someone to free them from slavery

[icy veldt]

Why would you do that?

[warm gull]

it was the only way to do it back in the day

[stark basalt]

Idk but LeBron James said something about slavery being bad in 1969

[pulsar ocean]

generosity

[woeful hatch]

What is the lore reason behind Fulghor from Nightreign wielding something similar to Xeroc's sigil made entirely of light

[icy veldt]

Yharim thinks that slavery is bad. Are you Yharim?

[pulsar ocean]

you dont know that

[stark basalt]

LeBron James === Yharim

[icy veldt]

New lore confirmed

[pulsar ocean]

did you know that the creator of lobotomies did his last ever lobotomy in 1967

[long bloom]

can we revive him to save cst

[snow mountain]

oh the ice pick guy

[icy veldt]

Looks a bit like Providence

[untold oracle]

Trurure!

[long bloom]

lea how do you feel about melon harnessing your spores

[untold oracle]

A host specimen is always welcome

[reef nova]

Speaking of monster hunter

I've been endlessly searching for someone to play it with me

I've been basically playing solo so far

Didn't finish Iceborne yet

and I still have Rise/Sunbreak to play

Would you...be willing...? 🥹

[stark basalt]

Monster hunter worlds is peak

[wheat walrus]

Goog

[wheat walrus]

I was doing a 2nd iceborne playthrough w a friend (i actually started it over a year ago b took a break) and just got to MR100, was supposed to prep for Ala

So maybe

Not rn tho

[reef nova]

👍

[pulsar ocean]

[soft geyser]

Hallo chat it’s my Birthday!!!! And now I go right back to the break

[pulsar ocean]

happy birthday

[split mortar]

Happy birthday

[long bloom]

hap birf

[balmy glacier]

happy bday

[fallen kindle]

incattus propaganda confirmed?

[pulsar ocean]

ok but he has aura and drip

would you not believe him

[limpid saddle]

yharim's army was paid exclusively in firm handshakes & tender kisses on the cheek from yharim

[agile matrix]

they should have an item that lets you see everything as true objective fact, but also makes the entire world very very pastels

so you have it and can read the yharim bits as actual truths, but its said in like. a toddlers manner

"my awmees were vewy vewy stwong, and dey masscwed all in dew paff."

[thick slate]

i thought thats just how gay people on discord speak

[supple bluff]

Why didn't yharim kill prov

[thick slate]

sneaky

[supple bluff]

Ain't she just in a temple tho

Oh wait that's infernum

Disregard last

Okay but like he had a whole army just split up a search team

[thick slate]

if my target was on the moon

how would i do that with 2 trillion foot soldiers

besides if they spread out

what is like 20 yharmy guys gonna do

get incinerated and then she leaves

[split mortar]

Apart from some very high top tiers of the yharmy like dog or yharon providence would just nuke the yharmy and teleport away or somethjng

[feral skiff]

what would the yharmy people be equipped with tho

[thick slate]

the draedon guns

[snow mountain]

providence with prep time

[split mortar]

Look at arsenal gear

[thick slate]

providence is kinda like batman

very strong at night

[snow mountain]

she really is holy shit

mothman more like

[thick slate]

and she also is a bat

[split mortar]

Literally only the top strongest godseeker knights could rival her if the arsenal gear is equal to what terrarian makes

[split mortar]

Thats just eternal flame from embers

[thick slate]

if i was a yharmy guy and i saw provi id probably just freeze and get incinerate

[snow mountain]

shes a fuckin god how could they kill her, what a grand and intoxicating innocence

fuck this tesco brand lager

[thick slate]

ipa

[pulsar ocean]

why didnt providence just kill some people and absorb 7 human souls to become god of hyperdeath to solo the verse

[spring helm]

Because she’s a bum

[split mortar]

She is a human
Humans cant absorb other human souls

[pulsar ocean]

but she is a god

not human

[split mortar]

Still not a monster

[pulsar ocean]

so shes a bum

[young socket]

why didnt silva just kill some people and absorb 7 human souls to become god of hyperlife to solo the verse

[pulsar ocean]

why would silva kill everyone

or anyone

[long bloom]

to become god of hyperlife to solo the verse

duh

[young socket]

idk man she has a champion to kill yharim for her

so like

maybe she actually hates certain people

[pulsar ocean]

i thought silva was morally good

[young socket]

yeah killing yharim id say is morally good

[pulsar ocean]

but is it really

[young socket]

yes

[split mortar]

Id say killing john racism and genocide is good yeah

[pulsar ocean]

but

he has aura

[thick slate]

i dont think killing is morally good

[warm gull]

#saveyharim2028

[limpid saddle]

some murder is very justified

[thick slate]

still morally bad

[tropic oak]

some murder is very justified

[thick slate]

oh yea forgot real people exist

[pulsar ocean]

@grok is this true

[strong compass]

Did the devourer of gods eat the god of brainrot

[icy veldt]

You're wrong

[pulsar ocean]

Would yharim beat sonic exe if he's a god

[tropic oak]

yeah

sonic.exe is weak as fuck

[magic epoch]

I don't believe there was a god of brainrot fortunately

[magic epoch]

If it can easily kill tails and knuckles, both of whom are incredibly powerful on their own right due to keeping up with the monster that is sonic, im not too sure

[strong compass]

What about the manifestation of strength and chaos known as nessaj the chaos knight

[magic epoch]

never heard of them

[safe otter]

I'd like to confirm if the new legend is more popular abroad? Because in China, almost everyone I see is a supporter of the old legend.

[strong compass]

Prolly not then

[split mortar]

Over in this chat the new lore is much more favoured in my experience

[safe otter]

We are deeply disgusted by this, because we have always felt that the new version of the legend is associated with certain politically correct elements.

However, it is also possible that some updates were released later in China, resulting in players being unaware of the new character design patches.

[snow mountain]

guh

translation goes crazy

[safe otter]

I specifically sent it to Google Translate to translate into Chinese, and it was still understandable before I sent it

I didn't expect there would still be a problem?

[wheat walrus]

legend = lore i assume

[safe otter]

😭

[safe otter]

Yes

In our area, these two words have the same meaning.

[wheat walrus]

fair enough

[safe otter]

I think I have to go now; I won't be back for another 13 hours.

[warm gull]

the legend of the Delta Rune

[spare pier]

I'm unsure on what you mean by "politically correct elements"

[snow mountain]

i honestly think we should just leave it for now

[wheat walrus]

there might be lost-on-translation aspects but i assume that

anyways, user won't be back for another 13 hours so

[split mortar]

I hope its translation fuckup and not someone being anti woke

Or whatever

[snow mountain]

who cares if they are, its not something that we can change

[spare pier]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[thick slate]

woker

[snow mountain]

(besides its kinda fun to chew on)

[split mortar]

Its fun to imagine your pfp bouncing around forever stuck in a cube

[warm gull]

too much gay people (1 couple)

he they xeroc

[snow mountain]

its real funny though

[split mortar]

Aro ace scal

[warm gull]

yharim doesnt use enough ethnic slurs

[wanton pendant]

I think that was in the old lore too.

[wanton pendant]

Exactly, how can Mr. Racism not be using slurs. The writers need to step up their game and make him like, 12% more racist.

[snow mountain]

yharim needs to study the intricacies of lihzhard culture to be racist more accurately

[limpid saddle]

well not to generalize but south-east asia is hardly acclaimed for its progressive policies

[limpid saddle]

though uh, i'm assuming this did not intend to come across as that blunt

[leaden spruce]

soooo

what happens in calamity

:3

i kill all boss up to yharon and i not know what the freak happen or that there was a story :3

[limpid saddle]

you kill ALOT of random animals

[leaden spruce]

oh god what have i done

Penguin banner

[limpid saddle]

💔

anyhow

[icy veldt]

Ilmerian Citizen banner

[limpid saddle]

Like a few thousand years ago, a bunch of dragons found the core of the planet, the 'World Soul', which split into fragments that the dragons claimed as their own, melding the fragments with their own souls to create 'Auric Souls', & granting them power over the respective souls domain

[icy veldt]

I wonder what Calamitas did with hers

[limpid saddle]

Like y'know how Yharon is the Dragon of Rebirth there were tons of others too like the Dragon Of Flames, Dragon of Primordial Light, Dragon Of Storms, so on so forth

Speaking of that second guy, his name was Zeratros, who claimed the strongest domain of Primordial Light, that allowed him to freely control the light of the sun

In Calamity the sun produces a unique kind of light & it's the only one in existence, though other celestial bodies exist

Anyway he became defacto Dragon King, & he was pretty good at it, until Prime Moon Lord showed up (went by Fovos then) & killed like, so many dragons with death lasers that uber-fucked their souls & prevented Yharon from reviving them

Including Zeratros, who was mortally wounded in the conflict after they scraped open his skull, ripped off his legs & removed all of his organs before sealing him inside the moon

His loyal confidant & monk, who was bonded to his very soul, some guy named Xeroc went to his death-bed alone with dubious or undubious intentions (we do not know), eventually claiming Zeratros's Auric Soul & melding with it, becoming the first God

[leaden spruce]

ok hang on

where is all of this established 😭

[limpid saddle]

in lore items

[leaden spruce]

from my point of view im just killing shit

you got ALL OF THAT from the boss drops?

[limpid saddle]

& the draedon dialouge

[leaden spruce]

the wat

[limpid saddle]

after you beat exomechs you can use the codebreaker to hit up draedon on whatsapp

he tells you about shit

[limpid saddle]

for the most part, it can be pieced together that way, yeah

[leaden spruce]

i read like two of them and then never again

kek

[limpid saddle]

In particular you would look to the Moon Lord, Boss Rush, Yharon, & one of the other ones I forgot that you get after triggering one of the 'interim' tracks to get this information

Anyway

So people realised you could use Auric Souls to become a God with an ancient heretical ritual, & with Dragon society on the brink of collapse, the Dragon Hunts began

They lasted 800 years & now every Auric Dragon except for Yharon is dead/eaten

Also alot of normal dragon species because people are very stupid & dont know the difference

The Dragonfolly is an example of this, they became hyperaggressive in order to survive the hunts

[leaden spruce]

so is this all before terrarian

[limpid saddle]

Yeah long before

[leaden spruce]

why terrarian kill everything

[limpid saddle]

We jump ahead those 800 years though

[limpid saddle]

Thats up to you

@split mortar LEA, GET THE IMAGE

[leaden spruce]

i just want the damn signalis summon and now i gotta kill a god dragon man what da helli

[limpid saddle]

Anyhow, some important Gods before we continue

Xeroc, God Of Primordial Light, he is currently training like Goku in the Time Chamber but in the sun to prevent any more Moon Lord-esque apocalyptic events

Silva, Goddess Of Life, she was broiled & got her teeth kicked in by Yharim before getting thrown into the abyss, her blossoming corpse is the reason planty mush exists as she very very slowly revives

[wanton pendant]

(Speculated, Xeroc's current location or activity is unknown.)

[wanton pendant]

(Completely accurate and literal.)

[limpid saddle]

Agnus, God Of Sacrifices, he stood against Yharim's crusade & was murdered, but his loyal groupies dragged his corpse back to their sacred temple where in a desperate gambit they sacrificed themselves to revive him, their souls tainted by hatred ressurecting him as the God Of Blood, Ravager

By the way, Yharim's the guy that talks to you in the lore items

[wanton pendant]

Yharim is the BAD guy.

Do not take what he says at face value.

Because he's BAD.

[limpid saddle]

Otonilou, Goddess Of Electricity, & Tyrian, God Of The Sea, a duo that protected the city that was broiled & became the Sunken Sea, Illmeris, they were slaughtered by Calamitas while she was under Yharim's command

With those established, we now jump 800 years later

[wanton pendant]

To clarify, Xeroc became a god 850 years ago, the Crusade stuff was last 106 years.

[stark basalt]

Hallo chat

Hmm I have a question

[wanton pendant]

What's your question?

[stark basalt]

What souls does Thanatos have

??

[wanton pendant]

None.

[stark basalt]

Oh really is it essence?

Then?

[wanton pendant]

No.

Exo Prisms.

That's its power source.

[stark basalt]

Wait I thought each of the exos had smt other than prismis too

[limpid saddle]

The cult of the God Of Dogma successfully slay Yharon & capture his egg from the Dragon Aerie before he can revive, one of the cultists, raised into this life from birth, currently unnamed, is chosen to ascend with the use of Yharon's egg, but he rejects this cruel slaughter, & in his petulant rage, the God Of Dogma demands him to be thrown into the flames of hell along with the egg, & he is

[stark basalt]

There is dogma in calamity??

[wanton pendant]

The souls in the original mechs were a weakness according to Draedon.

[stark basalt]

What the fuck is that

[wanton pendant]

Hive Mind.

[young socket]

people when they realise dogma is a real word

[limpid saddle]

But this cultists righteous spirit & the boiling lava re-awaken Yharon, who rescues his savior from his fate, fighting off the group of cultists as Yharon tells the cultist of his tale of woe

The cultist vows to avenge the Auric Dragons & slay every God, & christens himself Yharim

Together, the two begin a conflict of unthinkable scale, known as the Crusades, rallying the oppressed & the mistreated to their cause with the promise of righteous vengeance

[manic coral]

also yharim smells

[wanton pendant]

Very important, don't forget this, it's on the test.

[leaden spruce]

waow are you creator of calamity lore :D

[manic coral]

one of the three yeah hi

[leaden spruce]

waow :D

[limpid saddle]

Yharim is then contacted & aided by the Archmage Permafrost, alongside the A.I Draedon, who offer their greatest of strategies & council, & weapons of advanced sciences respectively

[wanton pendant]

Along with a city state named Azafure that gave him an industrial powerbase.

[limpid saddle]

But the Crusades did not end with the deaths of cruel & wicked Gods, & in his ignorance Yharim allowed the Corruption & Crimson to exist by leaving the rotting corpses of Gods upon the battlefields, their essence seeping into the earth & twisting it in unnatural forms

The respective 'figureheads' for the Corruption & Crimson are the God Of Dogma & the God Of War

Around 80 years later, Yharim's forces are bolstered by the Devourer Of Gods, hailing from the Distortion & lying about so much so obviously

[wanton pendant]

(Date also speculation, we don't know when DoG joined.)

[leaden spruce]

ill have you know i beat DOG and it only took... something like 8-10 more accessories

im scared of yharon struggle

[limpid saddle]

In roughly the same timeframe, Calamitas is born as a very average human living in Azafure, with absolutely zero crazy Brimstone magic shit

10 years later, for her 13th birthday, she gets the gruesome deaths of her beloved protectors & older brothers Cataclysm & Catastrophe, & fighting to the death with the living incarnation of flame's wrath, the Brimstone Elemental

Thanks to her strong will & some genetic freakery, she held the capacity to absorb the Brimstone Magic of the Elemental directly into her bones to wield as her own as a force of unbridled devastation

[wanton pendant]

(Like, a lot of that is speculation.)

[limpid saddle]

Ok, no, we know she was 13 when she was recruited into the Yharmy, & because CalClone could do it, we know her magic absorption is genetic

[wanton pendant]

We don't know it was her birthday, and we don't know for absolute certain the mechanism that gave her her abilities.
It is highly likely, but not provable.

[limpid saddle]

the birthday bit was a joke to make the massive lore dump a bit less dry to read

[wanton pendant]

Hell, we don't even know for certain about the deaths of her brothers.
They were near certainly slain by the Elemental, but we don't know if they fought her. Maybe she got them off guard for example.

[limpid saddle]

???

i uh

never mentioned they fought the brimstone elemental i just said they died gruesomely

oh christ im getting off track

[wanton pendant]

It looks like you did, it seems I misunderstood.

[split mortar]

So do you

[agile matrix]

isnt bro old

old people naturally do not smell very good

[limpid saddle]

eyekia to continue Calamitas was found as the would-be 'sole survivor' of Azafure by Yharim's scouts, being taken to his court where Permafrost pleaded with him to let the archmage take the girl under his wing, which he allowed, though Yharim did also convince her to partake in missions against Yharim's enemies without Permafrost's knowledge

[wanton pendant]

(We don't know if she was the sole survivor, or how she ended up at his court, but yeah Yharim is a bad guy.)

[limpid saddle]

(Please notice how I said 'would-be' & put sole survivor in quotation marks & stop annotating & just let me spin a narrative here)

[limpid saddle]

Following this, Yharim fell into a great depression as his power peaked, he became more ruthless & careless, many believe due to the fact he realised he had not accumulated the raw strength to face Xeroc & truly end the Crusades despite his vast efforts, with Permafrost growing disillusioned with the cause, & abandoning him after Yharim commanded Calamitas to destroy Illmeris, which she did by infiltrating the city state, roughly the size of Italy, & boiling it empty over the course of 3 days

After this, in his petulant rage, Yharim commanded Calamitas to slaughter her teacher, which, unbeknownst to Yharim, she refused, by sealing him away in a block of ice that would come to be known as Cryogen

[split mortar]

Gay people

[limpid saddle]

After this Calamitas herself became disillusioned with Yharim, & abandoned the Yharmy as his empire fell into disarray, not helped by the persistent nagging of the Devourer to go out on another expedition & slay another God, leading to his further degradation, until even he himself cast off the last ally he forged across the Crusades, Draedon, after discovering his development of the Plague Nanovirus & it's usage on a Queen Bee

[feral skiff]

i actually love this storytelling, even if it's not 100% accurate

[limpid saddle]

Yharim then was nearly assassinated by a homosexual couple of a twink ninja, Statis, last surviving member of the Onyx Kinsmen, who were slaughtered by Yharim while he persued the Slime God, as they followed them, & a bear paladin, Braelor, stout defender of Silva & the last to recieve her blessing to our knowledge

They almost succeeded too, but the Devourer cut in at the last minute & sent them both to the Distortion (purple dimensional fold in space) with one of his portals, where in a bid to escape with his lover, Statis sacrificed a literal arm & a leg to Signus, who decieved him, sending only Statis back to the Heartlands (the contineant in which Calamity takes place), leaving Braelor trapped within the Distortion

[long bloom]

braelor is a hunk not a bear

[limpid saddle]

Reflecting on his past actions, & feeling some distant twinge of regret, Yharim abandoned his army once & for all, going with Yharon to the Dragon Aerie, where he reminisced & almost realised he was a bad person for 6 months, until suddenly, the Terrarian inexplicably appears, & the Calamity Mod begins

@leaden spruce there you go thats all major events & characters covered

[feral skiff]

you did NOT have to write all that for one person

however, that was VERY FIRE and you cooked extremely well

[limpid saddle]

thanks 🫡

[leaden spruce]

i um

i read most of it

[limpid saddle]

thats fair its alot to take in

but you now have a general knowledge of the key points & figures of calamity lore

If you have any specific questions feel free to ask

[leaden spruce]

okeyj, thank you :)

[sinful adder]

Ok then I will need a new explanation for someone else making a sapient robot

[pulsar ocean]

Why didn't calamitas use on us the same attack she did to explode italy

[sinful adder]

It took her several days to do that

It wasn't a single attack

[pulsar ocean]

Awwww

[cosmic zenith]

How do you know she was 13?

[cosmic zenith]

I mean
You could make a sapient robot
Making Draedon is an entirely different echelon of technology

Draedon was a sapient robot six centuries ago, and he (who quickly became the most technologically advanced being on the planet) continuously improved himself since then

[sinful adder]

They're supposed to be the player, capable of self improvement but not necessarily as advanced as draedon

[cosmic zenith]

Ah, I see
Well, you could theoretically do that...?

But at the same time isn't that like

A person

[wanton pendant]

Also, she's trying NOT to wipe civilizations off the map nowadays. It turns out it's bad for your karma or something.

[pulsar ocean]

Karma is fake anyways

[young socket]

turns out its bad for ur rep

[pulsar ocean]

Rep won't be affected if they don't know it's me

[lucid niche]

The terrarian isn’t Italian, probably

[wanton pendant]

Get the image.

[plucky juniper]

let this man know that as bad as what is happening to his words, that it is nothing compared to what I have done to amidias

[dusk laurel]

this is where they are creating sso

[plucky juniper]

he doesnt know

[dusk laurel]

amidias was a group project

[vocal kestrel]

This is a shit take but this chat was so much more fun when it was in lore limbo and we would spend 2 days discussing the evolutionary lineage of fishrons because there was no concrete things to go off of

[distant smelt]

we can still do this

[long bloom]

what rock do you think the earth elemental is made of

[warm gull]

aeriestone

clearly

[sinful adder]

Yes. This is basically like MegaMan or Quote or the like

That's the idea for this character

They're a robot that was built to try and turn the tide of the war, but they were too late, or something like that

[split mortar]

What the fuck

[limpid saddle]

they grilled him in the ancient manipulator

[long bloom]

i made that one worse

[mighty zenith]

tetolian

[wanton pendant]

Mega Man wasn't built for war, he was retrofitted. And Mega Man only fails in the (very) long run.

[snow mountain]

are we gonna talk about how xeroc's sigil was nearly ripped entirely from bloodborne

can't have anything originaal lmao

[long bloom]

[crude musk]

Did lore doc 2 come out?

[long bloom]

nop

[woeful hatch]

I think I've mentioned this in the past funnily enough

[snow mountain]

its so fabsolian lmao

[wheat walrus]

they fabbed my sol

[limpid saddle]

tetori

[crude musk]

Sad

[limpid saddle]

also i will give you that is true

[reef nova]

The God of Amidas

Yharim could never compete 💔

[mighty zenith]

you cannot grasp the true form of amidias' update

[crude musk]

Are elementals immortal

Or do they revive

[long bloom]

they can't die as long as some of their element still exists on terraria

so to permanently kill anahita you'd need to delete every water molecule

very impractical

[wanton pendant]

It's like Yharon.
They can die but only under specific circumstances.

[wheat walrus]

Turns WaterWraithGaming into a dev statement

[wanton pendant]

WHAT THE HELL!?

[snow mountain]

mods send his ass to the submerged castle

[wanton pendant]

I'm already there.

[crude musk]

So silva previously lived as long as there were plants

[wanton pendant]

Fake fan.

[wheat walrus]

That's right, you're now a statement from drunk stupecca one time at 1am on discord, and no more

[crude musk]

And now she can live as long as there is life

[wanton pendant]

Yeah.
That's how she keeps getting tossed into the pit.

[crude musk]

Am I getting it right

[wanton pendant]

If she could die she'd be dead.

[crude musk]

Quite the upgrade

[wanton pendant]

She was always like that.

Nature Elemental, that's what she is.

[crude musk]

Yeah but it's even harder to kill her

[wanton pendant]

I guess it's technically her species.

But like.

[crude musk]

Unless nature means everything alive too

[wanton pendant]

Are Elementals biological organisms?

[crude musk]

Maybe they're avatars

[wanton pendant]

DO NOT START THIS AGAIN!

[long bloom]

SILVA IS NOT MADE OF LIF-

💥

[crude musk]

Lmao sorry

[wheat walrus]

Oh do start this again

[snow mountain]

silva is woke plant

[wanton pendant]

Anyway if I recall Silva survives so long as biological life exists on Terraria.

[snow mountain]

can we trade i have a charlie kirk version of this

[long bloom]

yeah

[crude musk]

Ok but why couldn't silva just absorb life from around her and tank yharim

What even is the nature of her powers

[wanton pendant]

No reason to believe Elementals can do that.

[crude musk]

Yeah but she's a god

[wanton pendant]

She can empower things if Primordial Wyrm is anything to go by.

[snow mountain]

dats not how it works

[crude musk]

How much power does she have over her domain

[wanton pendant]

'Nigh unlimited.'

[long bloom]

presumably

[wheat walrus]

😭

[uneven epoch]

can some one explain me about leviathan and anahita lore

[wanton pendant]

Water Elemental and her pet fish.

Used to live in the Abyss.

Then Silva's body got tossed in.

[crude musk]

Then why couldn't she just pull a mahito and move her brain into a tree or something

[split mortar]

We waiting on a dev to read over the document and give it a thumbs up iirc

[wanton pendant]

We don't know which time made her leave.

[limpid saddle]

...why?

[crude musk]

Or make a new brain

[snow mountain]

because its real fucking funny

[wanton pendant]

I mean... like, the other Elementals ARE a hive mind.

[uneven epoch]

is leviathan have more then 1 before ?

[long bloom]

what?

[wanton pendant]

Unknown.

[queen moon]

Sup guys, im back with a question, is the sand elemental (from the rare elemental in a bottle) a child?

[wanton pendant]

But she's also a Goddess, so like, does that inhibit the ability?

[wanton pendant]

It's part of the Ground Elemental.

So, it's probably ancient.

[split mortar]

Since its not life but nature its possible that not only is it all living things but other natural processes
Unless its said somewhere in game nature and life are basically synonymous

[uneven epoch]

so what about new lore and old lore

[crude musk]

Presumably she's in the abyss because she lost her sapience

[split mortar]

All elementals are probably millions or billions of years okd

[wanton pendant]

It's like the Brimlings, technically they are also the Brimstone Elemental.

[crude musk]

So why couldn't she prevent that if she had nigh unlimited control over life

[wanton pendant]

Used to be a siren and her best friend, a giant fish.

[queen moon]

Thanks

[wanton pendant]

Now it's the physical manifestation of water and her pet fish.

[wanton pendant]

Control over life does not mean control over being sliced and diced and tossed into the pit.

[uneven epoch]

so anahita now is just a living water elemental ?

[split mortar]

Yharim is really good at concerting gods into mush

[wanton pendant]

Yes.

She is the Water Elemental.

Can't die unless you destroy all water on the planet.

[cloud ibex]

physical manifestation of water and her pet fish/very fish-like creation

[split mortar]

She is weirdly weak for a full elemental i will say

[long bloom]

the leviathan also may or may not have been created by her

we dunno

[split mortar]

Anahita is gay

[long bloom]

true

[wanton pendant]

She is not the only manifestation of the Water Elemental, but is likely the strongest one.

[crude musk]

Not trying very hard idk

[uneven epoch]

and leviathan is created ? or born long time ago ?

[split mortar]

We dunno

[wanton pendant]

Unknown.

[uneven epoch]

unknown is new lore right?

what about old lore ?

[wanton pendant]

It was a fish.

A big fish.

[split mortar]

We were only speaking in new lore

[cloud ibex]

big fish

[split mortar]

And old lore yeah its just a big fish iirc

[wanton pendant]

At one point it was half a fish.

[crude musk]

Ig if she got ambushed...

[wanton pendant]

That was weird.

[crude musk]

It seems weird tho

[wanton pendant]

But it had hype moments, and aura.

[crude musk]

She could just feel yharim approaching since he's alive

[wanton pendant]

Control over life does not mean immunity to being knocked out and tossed into a pit.

[split mortar]

Silva is weaker then scal and her abilities are likely very support oriented

[snow mountain]

also its hardly control shes more a sum of life than sovereign over it

she can still bless shit though

[crude musk]

Yeah but I'm arguing she could just move her brain over half the continent through the dirt or something

[wanton pendant]

She's the Goddess of Life she has life powers.
What that actually entails...

[crude musk]

Or simply run away

[uneven epoch]

who is silva and what relation with anahita ?

[woeful hatch]

We know she can create life, and bless life

But I don't think she can end life at will, that'd be death's domain

[wanton pendant]

Fellow Elemental.

[split mortar]

Silva is elemental of nature

[limpid saddle]

she cant exactly just abandon her body

[wanton pendant]

Enroached on her territory.
Not intentionally.

Anahita was driven to the other ocean.

[limpid saddle]

even the elementals have tangible forms, & shes bound to her body by her God Soul

[snow mountain]

i mean she doesn't really have one aside from the entirety of the abyss atp

[wanton pendant]

The better question is why.

[crude musk]

Why she's an elemental

[wanton pendant]

Which is the answer I was thinking.

[crude musk]

Ig the god soul

[split mortar]

Considering silva hasnt healed already over idk how many years i doubt she can just make herself a new body that quickly

[crude musk]

And yharim is really good at tracking those

[woeful hatch]

Silva is an elemental of nature, later turned goddess of life post ascension, which was hunted down by Yharim, and then thrown at the bottom of the abyss after he couldn't kill her.

She's the patron goddess of Braelor, and made his axe too

[wanton pendant]

It's like he's some kind of godseeker, huh?

[woeful hatch]

@uneven epoch

[uneven epoch]

yeah i still reading

[crude musk]

Yeah cause she's not sapient it's like a thousand pieces of your brain being separated they wouldn't think to refuse

[snow mountain]

also why would she need to

[woeful hatch]

Yeah I meant to reply but I fucked up and replied to myself

[limpid saddle]

yharim wearing one of those stupid propeller hats for toddlers & calling it his God Radar

[wanton pendant]

To go and hang out with her gay friends.

[limpid saddle]

it spins really fast when theres a God around

[long bloom]

real

[snow mountain]

yeah but shits chill down there

[wanton pendant]

It's really cold.

[snow mountain]

the primordial wyrm brought his own keg

[split mortar]

She is smart enough to open chests post skeletron so eh

[crude musk]

Yharim is the typa guy to stop mid conversation and say his god senses are tingling

[crude musk]

Oh yeah I completely forgot about that

[wanton pendant]

'GET BACK HERE SLIME GOD!
I'LL CHASE YOU TO THE ENDS OF THE EARTH!'

[split mortar]

I think you are just overestimating how strong her regen is

[woeful hatch]

Let's make Yharim slander based on slime god and providence and ravager still being alive

We could do it

[crude musk]

Potential yharim meme

Probably done already

[wanton pendant]

The domain of Life does not mean the domain of Healing.

[wanton pendant]

Ravager.
Alive.

[crude musk]

Imo her regen should be instantaneous, just make a new body and inject it with god essence

[woeful hatch]

Ok look by a given definition of alive

It is alive

[wanton pendant]

Anyway yeah people do that all the time.

[crude musk]

But I'm not a writer so idk how it should actually work

[split mortar]

Well we kill ravager so it is alive

[wanton pendant]

I saw a post like yesterday asking why didn't he kill Providence.

[wanton pendant]

You need more than just essence.
Like the soul.

And the souls are a bit unstable.

[split mortar]

Just falls under the undead category

[wanton pendant]

So, it'd probably explodes.

[snow mountain]

also shes chill

[crude musk]

Interesting

[snow mountain]

down there

[crude musk]

She did come back once tho

To be thrown a second time

[wanton pendant]

At least, for all we know this happens once a century to her.
How do you get thrown into the pit TWICE!?

[split mortar]

The essence is the soul but kaboomed no?

[snow mountain]

tbf wasn't she minced the second time

[crude musk]

Skill issue

[wanton pendant]

If I have sawdust, do I have an intact tree?
Can I start a bonsai with that?

[snow mountain]

fire

[crude musk]

Imagine if there was a dragon of gods that turned into the god of dragons after being absorbed

[wanton pendant]

Peak.

[crude musk]

✍️🔥

[snow mountain]

cal lore if it was good

[reef nova]

Supposed last boss didn't kill a pre-hm boss ✌️ 😂

Yea I suck at this

Brooo let me send a gifff