lore-discussion

[spring zodiac]

What if Draedon is a worm tho? Does that make it so he would be strong enough

[mighty zenith]

he would never be a worm

[wanton pendant]

No.

[split mortar]

[spring zodiac]

I am starting a conspiracy theory that he is a worm

[wanton pendant]

Throw the sun at Terraria more than once.

[spring zodiac]

I just gotta piece it together, I have a strong feeling Draedons physical body is a worm

[split mortar]

Draedon is code
I dont think draedon can be accurately defined by one singular body that it has
Yeah somewhere draedon prob has a worm body

[mighty zenith]

i think a Naga Draedon design could go quite hard

[icy veldt]

Catbot Draedon
Catbot Draedon

[mighty zenith]

nop

[snow mountain]

table with the leg that scoots across the floor

the leg is wearing a sock and rounded shoes

[split mortar]

Your agenda?

[pulsar ocean]

can i kill xeroc using cheats if i have the permission slip

[split mortar]

You need not the permission slip for that level of power
Afterall

[snow mountain]

we need a gimmick account that says that happened to my buddy eric once

replying to every post here

[sinful adder]

Hey check #general-media for something cool

[split mortar]

Oh yeah the dark fountain thing seen that been meaning to watch

[pulsar ocean]

Why does lunatic cultist make the dark fountains

[feral skiff]

ermm actually, that’s a deltarune thing, stay on-topic 🤓☝️ /j

[stark basalt]

I'm gonna shit your pants

[visual kiln]

whdikf???????

[agile matrix]

of the characters the terraria can fight, other than bosses, boss minions, or minibosses, who is likely the strongest and whos the most easily defeated

(for easily defeated such as like. old men. or very small but somehow silva blessed rodents)

[fluid cargo]

i think of king slime

just burn the thing..

gel is flammable so

by that logic is he the easiest..

[agile matrix]

other than bosses

also at his tier you’re most likely to not have a lot of flame

[split mortar]

Most easily defeated up to you

[fluid cargo]

i mean like.. flaming arrows right

[fluid cargo]

i think of

uhh kill draedon himself trust

[agile matrix]

moreso “when we fight this thing, whos the strongest and we’re really cool for somehow defeating it” and “i dont even know how we were allowed to eviserate this thing so easily”

[fluid cargo]

dried worm

aka desert scourg

i think hes easy cuz hes just starving

[agile matrix]

other than bosses

r e a d and c o m p r e h e n d

[split mortar]

Probably some random critter for easiest to kill but again you decide

[split mortar]

Calamity fans dont do that

[fluid cargo]

wait im so sorry

[agile matrix]

clearly

[fluid cargo]

does draedon himself count

he just

watches

and then you can

kill him

[split mortar]

You oneshot the recon drone but draedon very much still “alive”

[fluid cargo]

ohw

man :c

[split mortar]

Guy is about as immortal as an elemental

Copies and servers across the world

[fluid cargo]

what if i like

put a rat

[split mortar]

Super intelligent ai moment

[fluid cargo]

in the servers

[split mortar]

Draedon can kill the rats

[fluid cargo]

waa

[split mortar]

Go my nitrogen gas remove the oxygen and choke the rat

[agile matrix]

i mean like

id say dragonfollys kinda hydrogen baby

[fluid cargo]

are exo prisms edible

[agile matrix]

but thats a biss

so like

idk thr little guys

[split mortar]

Dragon folly is also getting moved to pre hardmode

[fluid cargo]

what

[agile matrix]

good !

[split mortar]

Those are boss summon

[split mortar]

Hivemind/perfs will switch with dragon folly

[fluid cargo]

huh

what the heck

when is that..

[agile matrix]

hmmm

oh the wisps are kinda hydrogen babies

the post ml wisps

[split mortar]

Dragon folly is random animal (fits for prehardmode/ early hardmode)
Evil 2 is literally the gods undead essence trying to live that caused yharim to go down this path

[fluid cargo]

will their drops be reworked

[split mortar]

I think evil 2 fits the post ml vibe more then random bird go

[fluid cargo]

and have their stats tweaked

[fluid cargo]

i love bumblebirb..

[split mortar]

Probably when the bosses get sent to post ml (idk when that happening)

[fluid cargo]

so basicaly i can just fight the birb after skeleton

[split mortar]

Dragonfolly is cool but it really does not fit as a post ml boss

[split mortar]

Evil 2 is pre skeletron

[fluid cargo]

im stupi

ive had hundreds of hours on calamity and i get a brainfart

[split mortar]

So once the reworks come out folly will be post evil 1

[split mortar]

It happens

[fluid cargo]

stupid red lightning birb

[dusk laurel]

nope

[dusk laurel]

also wrong

[safe otter]

Is it possible to prohibit discussions about the old version's story setting here?

[long bloom]

it would be possible
but why would you

[wanton pendant]

You can discuss the old lore, but we usually prefer the modern version.
Also, to prohibit means to not allow, which I believe is not what you are trying to say.

[safe otter]

I'm just asking out of curiosity. I prefer the older version; many of the new features are unacceptable to me. I spent a long time researching the older version, but after seeing a bunch of things that were horrifying to me, I gave up on researching the new version.

[random mulch]

define what you mean with "horrifying"

because this seems like an odd context to use it in

[gritty kraken]

they’re using google translator chat

[safe otter]

It's terrifying that Calamities and the permafrost have become adoptive father and daughter.

[long bloom]

[safe wing]

What's the problem

[safe otter]

Eternal Freeze is that Ice Magician; I don't know his English name.

[long bloom]

it's permafrost

the archmage

[safe wing]

Permafrost probably got translated to eternal freeze

so

[safe otter]

I find this very strange, something like that, it's the old guard.

[wanton pendant]

Terrifying and horrifying mean that you find it scary or frightening.
I assume the translator is failing you and that you're not scared of adoption.

His name is also Permafrost in English.

[limpid saddle]

What do you consider strange about that character dynamic?

I think the New Lore has done much to add depth to characters that didn't have alot of it before, such as 'Eternal Freeze', or even Calamitas herself, what merit do you think the Old Lore has over it?

[dusk laurel]

^

[limpid saddle]

also this has suddenly made me think about translations of the calamity mod

cause 'eternal freeze' is a very literal interpretation of the name that in english is just kind of a goofy portmanteau of permeneant & frost

perhaps more effort should be considered for localisation

[young socket]

do u know that permafrost is a real word

[limpid saddle]

it is?

[young socket]

it is

[limpid saddle]

thats fucked up

[young socket]

its meant to desribe places that are essentially always below 0c

[split mortar]

Literally just ground thats frozen all year round i think

[dusk laurel]

youre crazy

[pulsar ocean]

i guess you could say

permanently frosted

[wanton pendant]

Wait until you learn that Calamitas is a real word.

[pliant ruin]

i mean idk man just like a random ambient critter would be the most easily defeated

for the strongest Dungeon G uardian

there you go

gg

I mean, what did you expect 😭

[limpid saddle]

huh yeah what is it

[pliant ruin]

hey that was only two g's!!!!

[stoic gulch]

JOIN MY CRU !

[frank dune]

Was yharim freaky?

An actually interesting lore question

[split mortar]

What do you define by freaky
Cause
Any nsfw stuff is not gonna be touched on by calamity its the same age rating as vanilla iirc

[pulsar ocean]

yharim couldnt take off the armor to get freaky

[limpid saddle]

dude you know what they mean

[split mortar]

I have maybe too much hope in humanity alright

[dusk laurel]

im not gonna entertain this conversation

[split mortar]

Thats fair

[limpid saddle]

how is asking 'was yharim freaky' something potent enough to make a dent in that

[icy veldt]

Pffft, imagine having hope for humanity 🫵😂

[icy veldt]

Skill issue

[wanton pendant]

What the hell.

[split mortar]

What

[buoyant inlet]

Collect my karma flowers

Close my paths

[cosmic zenith]

Purpose my understandings

[buoyant inlet]

Tbg my grand plan was to put weaver as my pfp for October but it still was early after new watcher update and so may be a spoiler for some people so I decided to put prince first

Then switched to weaver

[split mortar]

Bot or hacked account

[buoyant inlet]

My account has been hacked by the rot

[magic zenith]

Was the sunken sea connected to the ocean outside of the island we're on before it got burnt?

[split mortar]

We are on an entire continent not just an island
And i dont remember anything saying it was connected to the ocean

[magic zenith]

Continet or island, doesn't matter here

It's just

If it wasn't connected to the ocean then it's a lake

[pliant ruin]

it's more of an estuary tbh

underground

[magic zenith]

Amidias is not a cool sea king but a lame ass lake king

[inner pasture]

Hello again, I hope you're all doing well. You know, I was curious about something. What kinds of jobs do you think people had in Ilmeris, Azafure, and Vernal Pass? And what places of interest did they have? For example, in Ilmeris, since it was a kingdom, they probably had artisans, chancellors, treasurers, and so on.

[pulsar ocean]

why does it say i get to make the lore of the terrarian if i cant spare yharim and chill out with noxus

[magic zenith]

Because calamity is deltarune if it was made by its fans

[wanton pendant]

Azafure was known for its arms exports and industry.

[magic zenith]

Your choices doesn't matter, but now lore sucks

[pulsar ocean]

terraria calamity is like deltarune if deltarune's "your choices dont matter" actually applied the whole game

[wanton pendant]

Vernal Pass probably had plant related stuff, so agriculture maybe? Especially if they're the ones behind Plantera.
Jungle civilizations farmed honey so they may have also cultivated it.

Ilmeris was an entire kingdom, so probably a lot of jobs.

They did farm jellyfish, for military purposes.

[woeful hatch]

Well you can spare yharim

Just stop playing

[inner pasture]

It's very interesting; I personally love learning in depth about what went on in a fictional universe. Everyone focuses on major events, but I'm really intrigued to know how ordinary people in those places lived their daily lives.

[wanton pendant]

Also, we do know that Azafure had a boxing scene.

And mercenaries from there.

[inner pasture]

And of course, since Azafure was an oligarchy with elites and high-ranking officials, there was surely a lot of corruption, and there were probably homeless people on the streets. They likely managed money through their own banking system. Ilmeris probably had a treasury and such, and I doubt Vernal Pass had a currency-based economy; they probably preferred bartering.

[magic zenith]

You can also consume yharon's auric soul by enabling cheat sheet

[inner pasture]

Exactly, like Catastrophe and Cataclysm.

[wanton pendant]

Only Catastrophe was a mercenary.

Catacylsm was a brawler.

[inner pasture]

Yep

[woeful hatch]

Well we don't know about how corrupted they were

[wanton pendant]

We do know Azafure had poverty, as it is heavily implied Calamitas' family was.

[inner pasture]

That's why her* brothers had those "jobs"

[wanton pendant]

What.

[split mortar]

Calamitas is a woman

[inner pasture]

Oops, the translator put calamitas as "he"

Guys, you already know I use a translator xD

[woeful hatch]

Not really? I didn't at least

[inner pasture]

Well, you didn't know that. I think I mentioned it once when I was talking about the lore with Lea and Water...

Sometimes I don't realize what the translator says. In Spanish, I only have to say "sus hermanos", when I referred to Calamitas. xd

[tropic oak]

lore

[young socket]

hiiii john

[split mortar]

Lore

[balmy glacier]

lore

[limpid saddle]

can somebody make a chart showing the evolution of melon guns nickname

[split mortar]

😭

[limpid saddle]

cause we went from what

Melon gun to melon banned

Melon banned², ³ & so on

[pulsar ocean]

id beat yharim in a 1v1 irl

[limpid saddle]

is the bit here that yharim is a fictional character so you could just beat the shit out of a cardboard cutout

[pulsar ocean]

no the bit is that i reject the rejection and reject yharim and he dies instantly

also yuta a bitch

[dusk laurel]

is this mr breast

[split mortar]

Moved to kai cenat whoever that is

[icy veldt]

καί is Greek for "and", and cenat is Latin for "he/she/it is eating" (third-person singular present active indicative)

[split mortar]

Xeroc

Xeroc

Xeroc

[icy veldt]

Xeroc backwards is Corex, which is one letter away from Corax, which is Greek for "raven", which is "nevar" backwards, which is one letter away from "never"

[wheat walrus]

so xeroc is never

makes sense

[fierce pagoda]

Core x

from metroid fusion

[split mortar]

rot

Whats the worst rots this chat has

[plucky juniper]

dots

dont forget that dots killed perfection

[fierce pagoda]

currently probably amidias rot

[split mortar]

Amidias is more so a cst thing not lore i think

[long bloom]

the terrarian is you

[dusk laurel]

[split mortar]

Oh i see how it is

[stoic gulch]

Ceglon

Join my cru!!!

[feral skiff]

The Terrarian is ME, this means that i'm Xeroc and win instantly

[tropic oak]

im xeroc you cannot be xeroc

[icy veldt]

Could it be something Providence-related, perhaps?

[plucky juniper]

what if we're all xeroc

what if we all collectively nommed on Zeratros's soul

and ascended past ourselves

[tropic oak]

die

[icy veldt]

What if we're all just figments of Xeroc's imagination?

[pulsar ocean]

xeroc sleep theory?

fnaf 4?

[plucky juniper]

i mean, thats not far off from azathoth

or should i say, ozzathoth

[safe otter]

I think the story I added to my mind and the setting I had in mind inadvertently touched on the old legend, which made my story based on the old legend not so bad. Anyway, I just woke up. According to China time, when I said this yesterday it was already 9:30 pm, so I'm only replying now. Sorry.

[pulsar ocean]

is new lore really better if it doesnt have the yharim table slam

[limpid saddle]

That's fair, it is very easy to get attached to your own ideas & interpretation of a narrative, thus making it harder to accept some 'new continuity'

Also, it's fine, timezones are not your fault

[pulsar ocean]

why dont we just use a singular timezone

[safe otter]

What time is it where you are? Also, I think I need to go to school. Even though things are relatively easy where I am, we still have to be at school before 7:20, otherwise we'll be punished by having to do cleaning.

[pulsar ocean]

just like pretend 11 pm is middle of day for some people

[plucky juniper]

the what

[limpid saddle]

Ouch, that's rough, it's currently 22:50 in military time over here

[pulsar ocean]

2:50 AM here

[safe otter]

I suddenly remembered a picture circulating on the Chinese internet, something like someone asking, "His roommate is actually sleeping at night?!"—a vampire-like statement.

[plucky juniper]

@pulsar ocean you need to explain what you mean by the yharim table slam

[limpid saddle]

In old lore there was an infamous scene where Yharim was negotiating with some group of people & got really angry so hit the table they were talking at so hard everyone in the room died

[plucky juniper]

i... dont remember anything about this

jeez

[safe otter]

I feel like I've never heard of this before.

[plucky juniper]

but it does track with old lore yharim being stupid in multiple ways

[snow mountain]

its so stupid its peak

from absurdity alone

[wanton pendant]

The table survived.

And Yharim.

[limpid saddle]

That's fair I think it was never mentioned in lore items, just developer statements (from he who shall not be named)

[wanton pendant]

Everyone else died.

[plucky juniper]

but also at the same time i just know for a fact that Yharim could do this

even current lore

[wanton pendant]

In the new lore, it's more grounded.

The table would also die.

[safe otter]

In the older version, he was portrayed more as a character who ruthlessly unified the empire in his youth, but felt remorseful and powerless to undo the damage in his later years.

[snow mountain]

tbf i like the idea its legendary exaggeration

[wanton pendant]

Very different to the current version.

You want the table to be legendary?

[snow mountain]

we should get less realistic feats because it matches his infamousness

whether they took place in actuality is another matter

[limpid saddle]

There are some similar ideas in new lore with Yharim, though he's much more 'unredeemable'

[plucky juniper]

the idea of it being an bizarre tall tale told about Yharim is great

[wanton pendant]

It is explicitly stated by Yharim people make up claims about what he can do.

[plucky juniper]

we need more goofy stuff

[snow mountain]

he should feed into it

[wanton pendant]

He did do that and now she's got every trauna.

[snow mountain]

he should lean into the mythmaking

more

even more

[safe otter]

Do you guys discuss things like combat power here, like how devastating a single hit can be? Some people back home are really into discussing that; in the old version, it was already at an incredibly high level.

A single strike could destroy multiple multiverses.

[limpid saddle]

Oh yes, we have dedicated powerscaler

@wheat walrus OOOOH OMNI

[wanton pendant]

Yharim can cleave mountains.

[plucky juniper]

who the hell is "she" in this context

[wanton pendant]

The witch.

[plucky juniper]

we didnt mention anything about her

you just kinda barged her into this

rude

[plucky juniper]

maybe i should add 100000 positrons to kiri's atoms for this

[wanton pendant]

Yeah that's what Yharim did.

[safe otter]

In our region, we often use a hypocritical naturalist to criticize new legends because he has no problem with his people being turned into machines, but is very angry about the transformation of bees.

[limpid saddle]

In the current lore, I believe the greatest strength feat is Xeroc with his capability to devastate a contineant

[snow mountain]

pangrea

[wanton pendant]

Ok, I think your translator is not doing you favours, I don't follow.

[plucky juniper]

yknow im not sure about whats up with your translator but im just gonna say, yeah that sounds like yharim

[limpid saddle]

Oh no, you see the mech bosses arent soldiers being converted into machines, they are the souls consentingly harvested from their corpses to power the mechs

[wanton pendant]

Oh, the mech bosses.

Yeah the guys in that consented.

They're just crazy people.

[snow mountain]

yharim needs to be like 50% more misinfo

[fierce pagoda]

why

[safe otter]

For the Empire!

[limpid saddle]

Yharim percieved the Plaguebringer Goliath's creation as something that enslaved & tormented a living thing, & over all things he despises slavery the most in the new lore

[snow mountain]

aura and mythmaking

[limpid saddle]

Exactly

[wanton pendant]

It was for the genocide more so, the empire was a side effect.

[limpid saddle]

So he stood against that where he did not stand against the creation of the mech bosses

[wanton pendant]

Also the mech bosses retain free will.

[limpid saddle]

waterwraith you barely even understand what they're talking about let them have their jokes

[snow mountain]

40,000 messages on this server alone must do that to you

[wanton pendant]

Stop before someone calls me a girlfailure again.

[limpid saddle]

Though that is not to say Yharim isn't a hypocritical character, he's very much supposed to be

[wheat walrus]

waterfailure

[wanton pendant]

Butchering you whole.

[feral skiff]

im having a stroke trying to comprehend this

[pliant ruin]

someone called you that??????????

[dusk laurel]

huh?????

[wanton pendant]

Yes.

[dusk laurel]

now thats crazy

[limpid saddle]

you're all bozos with no intuition 💔

[pliant ruin]

this is just like that one time someone called me a femboy

[wanton pendant]

...what?

[dusk laurel]

oh yeah someone called me a puritan once (yes they said that)

[tropic oak]

xeroc

:)

[dusk laurel]

i dont know why

or how

[young socket]

hi john

[dusk laurel]

rare tsuki appearance

[young socket]

fuck you mean rare

[limpid saddle]

Rough translation; "In our region, [China] we often call Yharim a hypocritical naturalist to criticize the New Lore because he has no issue with his soldiers souls being used to power the mech bosses, but is very angry about Draedon's mistreatment of bees"

[limpid saddle]

@feral skiff just for you

[fierce pagoda]

I think the main reason why Yharim is okay with it is like, cause of consent and free will

consent matters yo

[split mortar]

You have british timezone

[snow mountain]

NO

[limpid saddle]

its almost like i live in ireland

[snow mountain]

my condolences

[manic coral]

Yeah pretty much. Is it flawed logic? Absolutely! He has inconsistent morals that he refuses to let ever be challenged because he's a narcssist.

[snow mountain]

melon gun on the oliver cromwell grindset over here

[limpid saddle]

hi cei

[split mortar]

😭

[manic coral]

hi :D

[split mortar]

Wtf

[limpid saddle]

how goes writing & such

[tropic oak]

HI CEI !!!!!!!!!

[manic coral]

pretty much fine

[snow mountain]

unrelated but yharim needs a classical mystery cult

mithras style

[manic coral]

Yharim is not stupid, but is definitely dumb.

[fierce pagoda]

hes close minded thats for sure!

[tropic oak]

xeroc

[snow mountain]

he needs more of an ego fr

[pliant ruin]

yharim is simultanenously a genius and a dumbass

[limpid saddle]

Weirdly enough I haven't thought of Yharim as much of a narcissist

[snow mountain]

I call that shit the marble biome

[limpid saddle]

he seemed more focused on other things, though he does clearly think highly of himself, or did, anyway

[fierce pagoda]

oh but why is Yharim so cool regardless

hes like so cool as a villain

[snow mountain]

aura

[pliant ruin]

like yharim is very intelligent

he's a great tactician

fantastic at making plans

extremely charismatic

[fierce pagoda]

its like frieza, hes evil but hes still cool

and you cant help but like him

[pliant ruin]

but he's also got the emotional maturity of a prepubescent teenager which makes him a dumbass

[limpid saddle]

????

bold claim

[pliant ruin]

he's a genius but he's also a moron

[snow mountain]

does yharim have a larger tongue

than average

[fierce pagoda]

Yharim is like my favorite Calamity character

hes so cool

[snow mountain]

one of like four

[pliant ruin]

Yharim isn't my favorite but he's undeniably cool as fuck from a writing perspective

Like i think he's a really well written villain

[icy veldt]

Tbf Yharim is rhetorically useful as an example of the last time people hoped for a better world, and the inevitable result of those hopes and dreams

[young socket]

"these god cults are awful, they indoctrinated me into becoming a god"
"hey little child would you like to kill gods in my name"

[pliant ruin]

my favorite characters in cal if i had to make a top 3 are probably like

calamitas, agnus, xeroc

in that order

[fierce pagoda]

oh yeah I like gus too

[manic coral]

I almost never worry too much about EXACT words character say too much otherwise I get stuck in a cycle of perfectionism

[fierce pagoda]

i thought he was gonna be evil

[snow mountain]

gus

[manic coral]

I jsut go with whatever I feel like works in the moment

[fierce pagoda]

but actually he was really benevolent and nice, i love gus

[pliant ruin]

i 🩷 my big monster guy that's actually really sweet and kind

[manic coral]

Except for Yharim

[young socket]

would agnus have a steakhouse called "agnus' angus"

[manic coral]

I ALWAYS think about EVERY word that comes out of his mouth

[limpid saddle]

My top 3 are Calamitas Clone Calamitas Clone & Old Duke

[manic coral]

I agonize over every single word choice in the sentences he speaks

[split mortar]

Agnus vs magnus

[pliant ruin]

ok but lowk old duke might be in my top 5 unsure

specifically with the recent developments on his lore. like hmm yes

[fierce pagoda]

old duke pisses me off cause his fight is ass and his loot is ass

[snow mountain]

I'm crying this is awful

[icy veldt]

Which makes Cal funny because her reason for attacking the player is trying to avoid repeating that same mistake, even though her "hopemaxxing" is exactly how Yharim rose to power in the first place

[fierce pagoda]

so his character takes a hit from his gameplay being bad too

[limpid saddle]

The pickings are not that slim that Old Duke should be anywhere near the top 5 💔

[pliant ruin]

old duke is a cool as hell character though

unironically

[manic coral]

i like Xeroc who will continue to be nobody's favorite character for the next like 3 years unless you know the behind-the-scenes lore stuff

[icy veldt]

I mean Yharim seems like he'd agonize over his exact word choice too, so you're doing it right

[manic coral]

Because everything highly rleevant to them is later in development stuff

[snow mountain]

actual stockholm syndrome

[pliant ruin]

yknow its funny because

[fierce pagoda]

Xeroc is like my second favorite character

[pliant ruin]

most people who DO know about behind the scenes stuff

end up having him as one of their favorites

[limpid saddle]

i wonder when Yharim killed the God of Aurafarming

[pliant ruin]

hes just that goated

[split mortar]

Xerocs cool but idfk how to tier list so i just dont

[fierce pagoda]

Xeroc is so cool too

and hes super strong

and i like when my characters are strong

[pliant ruin]

old duke is v interesting to me

[split mortar]

Moonlord is up there on aura
I am not biased i did not have a ml pfp for like 8 months shut up

[icy veldt]

Xeroc's a sentimental fool. He's way too attached to the dragons and their tyrannical rule, to the point of calling Yharon his "old friend"

[manic coral]

in terms of everything I have written my top 3 are, probably entirely unsuprisingly

[young socket]

yea not for 8 months it was like a year lmao

[manic coral]

Xeroc, Yharim, Calamitas

[pliant ruin]

dragon that got born just short of an auric soul so he gets a inferiority complex against his auric brethren and turns into a racist selfish bastard that needs to constantly exhert his control over others to compensate for that inferiority complex he has

[snow mountain]

these takes have given me food poisoning

[limpid saddle]

take off your new pfp like a scooby doo villain mask before saying "so it was old man melon that tried to eat the bosses!"

[manic coral]

Calamitas gets points too becuase she's the one chaarcter who I can make swear and it's funny

[pliant ruin]

old duke is the type of guy that will act all high and mighty and like he's just Better than you but once he slowly loses his control over others he becomes a absolute mess

[manic coral]

The only person who will call somebody else a sack of shit

[icy veldt]

I know some others here talk about spare options for more bosses, but I kinda want more don't-spare options as well

[pliant ruin]

all of the bosses in the mod

[fierce pagoda]

dont you kill almost every boss

[pliant ruin]

they're all dont spare options.

[tropic oak]

cei\

[fierce pagoda]

save for like 2

[limpid saddle]

yeah yeah you're so desperate to kill calamitas

[split mortar]

Dont spare is the automatic thing for every boss but 2

[tropic oak]

why is xeroc the way they are

[snow mountain]

where is miracle boy on this list

[tropic oak]

what happened to them as a child

[icy veldt]

Violence should always be an option!

[split mortar]

I hate miracle boy

[limpid saddle]

dragon monk

[snow mountain]

we love miracle boy

[limpid saddle]

bitchass 🥀

[tropic oak]

what childhood trauma makes you worship dragons

[icy veldt]

"Most of the time" isn't good enough

[split mortar]

Did xeroc prefer pancakes or waffles when they were 10

[tropic oak]

me as fuck

[limpid saddle]

living in dragon land

[snow mountain]

welsh

[hoary cape]

violence is never the answer instead it's the question and the answer is always yes

[tropic oak]

i loooove xeroc

[icy veldt]

Brain damage from being dunked in lava

[tropic oak]

i liked xeroc before i knew all their cool lore stuff

i will continue to like xeroc even after

[manic coral]

Her dialogue I've written is so dissonant compared to everything else and it's fun to be able to take a break from some of the fancy dialogue and big considerations of how to make them talk all distinctly and jsut have somebody who cna go

[split mortar]

Im going to throw you into a pile of bricks through a window

[tropic oak]

this is my favorite Guy

[manic coral]

"Yeah Yharim is a stupid bitch"

[fierce pagoda]

Xeroc when you bust your ass fighting his light clones, and gives you a rock

[manic coral]

"I think he should eat shit and die"

[tropic oak]

i like xeroc so much i ended up in here

[limpid saddle]

i swear to god if i hear one more person say that corny ass line that stopped being funny 6 years ago they're not gonna stop finding the body

[pliant ruin]

Yharim is a bitch ass motherfucker. He crusaded on my fucking gods.

[icy veldt]

Violence = good

[tropic oak]

nobody likes xeroc as much as i do

[hoary cape]

why are you going to defenestrate me?

[split mortar]

If violence bad why violence fun

[manic coral]

Except me

[tropic oak]

its scientifically impossible

[limpid saddle]

yeah.

its peak.

alao hi john vcmm

[tropic oak]

yeah thats fair

[pliant ruin]

i do consider myself a pretty big xeroc fan as he is on my top 3 and i think hes cool as fuck but i cant deny it

[split mortar]

Its the automatic sort of violence i jump to doing atm

[hoary cape]

i am the creator of that line as the frog of violence

[pliant ruin]

tyrant is literally john xeroc

[tropic oak]

im john xeroc

[pliant ruin]

xerocs strongest soldier

[manic coral]

I have written literally everything about them so

[tropic oak]

i will defend this character forever

[manic coral]

I feel like I deserve that spot

[tropic oak]

xeroc haters DNI

[snow mountain]

I'd be a dragon; a dragon bird hybrid. king of the junjile but still social, and with it

[pliant ruin]

you're the creator so you can't be xeroc's strongest soldier yk

its like

its like if hatsune miku was minecraft's strongest soldier

[manic coral]

I am the military commander

[limpid saddle]

xeroc's prophet

[pliant ruin]

that's more fitting

[split mortar]

Cei you are not a fan you are the writer

[tropic oak]

i do cei's bidding

for i am xeroc's number 1 fan with the sole exception of the writer

[limpid saddle]

figurehead of the xeroc

[hoary cape]

Xeroc gonna break the 4th wall and hire Cei

[plucky juniper]

❌

you should instead say

[snow mountain]

Xanax christ

[plucky juniper]

"it's like if Rebecca was Providence's strongest soldier"

[dusk laurel]

no

[hoary cape]

if you make a bad joke i am going to flay you

okay that's fine

[split mortar]

Overdone im going to introduce a brick to your eyes

[limpid saddle]

ok i really need to go to sleep

[tropic oak]

see nobody can outmatch my love for xeroc because

i made an 11 minute theme for the guy out of pure passion

[limpid saddle]

Goodnight lore chat

[tropic oak]

what did YOUUUU do

goodnight

[limpid saddle]

love you 💖

[split mortar]

Goodnight

[icy veldt]

Providence mention 🐱

[snow mountain]

vaema x xeroc yaoi

[hoary cape]

rebecca is provi's strongest soldier

[tropic oak]

shut up about vaema

nobody cares about vaema

[hoary cape]

didn't you know provi hires people irl

[fierce pagoda]

fuck you providence

[icy veldt]

Vaema balls

[plucky juniper]

find my eyes

[fierce pagoda]

im so glad we get to kill her personally

[snow mountain]

😭

[tropic oak]

we stan xeroc in this household

i will not stop preaching for my second favorite they/them

[hoary cape]

i am going to obliterate you

[icy veldt]

Spare option for Providence

[manic coral]

I like Providence however trying to go into her story is hard becuase of one simple question

.

Where

[fierce pagoda]

If providence has zero haters, im dead

[snow mountain]

rock

[plucky juniper]

obviously, write religious tomes around the place

[hoary cape]

provi is loved by everyone. She is the most innocent character in the lore

[icy veldt]

Everyone being dead would also satisfy that condition

[manic coral]

However I will come up with something eventually

[split mortar]

Just make a yuri calamity manga idk

[plucky juniper]

add provi cultists all over the place

[snow mountain]

wuxia type shit

[limpid saddle]

steal the infernum idea of a providence temple & carve her scripture on big cool crystals

[split mortar]

Idk what evil spells you are casting who tf is wuxia

[snow mountain]

chinese sword fantasy

[plucky juniper]

honestly, that infernum temple is so awesome its insane

[manic coral]

Honestly I'm actually one of the devs AGAINST a "Profaned Biome" or "Profaned Temple" or something like that

[icy veldt]

Profaned Toolshed

[fierce pagoda]

providence when i kill her stupid guardian friends, so she tries to take revenge but i kill her ass instead and use her corpse to make weapons

[tropic oak]

im Xeroc

[hoary cape]

honestly there are too many biomes as it is

[dusk laurel]

profaned temple doesnt make sense like

[tropic oak]

actually

since im allowed to

[dusk laurel]

why would provi want to build anything lmao

[tropic oak]

i should make that one art piece my pfp now

[snow mountain]

why would provvy make anything

[tropic oak]

(its xeroc)

[young socket]

profaned anything is just blehhhh

[manic coral]

Because here's my thing. Yeah it'd be awesome for writing, but outside of that.

[young socket]

too many biomes too many things too much

[manic coral]

What would it be used for.

Where would it even go.

[icy veldt]

Profaned Kaczynski-cabin

[snow mountain]

just give her roving cultists smh

[plucky juniper]

i mean, infernum decided it was the bottom-right corner of the world

[hoary cape]

there isn't a whole lot of room on the world, so throwing in another biome just crowds things even more than is needed

[fierce pagoda]

lowkey, who would ever choose to worship providence as their god

like she wantss you dead bro

[manic coral]

Esepcialyl with the sunken sea being bigger, CRAGS eventually getting bigger too

and perrenial stuff

[split mortar]

The people who believe death is better then life

[hoary cape]

people who want that

[icy veldt]

😿

[young socket]

they made a structure as big as the crags just for two bosses

[snow mountain]

cal doesn't make good with the space it needs anyhow

[fierce pagoda]

who are the types of people that worship providence

like what types of people

[young socket]

only later on did they realise "hm maybe we should put something there"

[split mortar]

Suicidal people

[plucky juniper]

kids i dont think ya'll understand

[young socket]

and they literally just put

one item

[split mortar]

Or hopeless people

[young socket]

😭

[manic coral]

have you ever played elden ring

[plucky juniper]

providence was the frenzied flame before the frenzied flame

[fierce pagoda]

no

[hoary cape]

heck there are were/are cultures in real life that actually think death is cool. The aztecs for instance

[pulsar ocean]

Incattus

[icy veldt]

People who look at Yharim's crusade and think "yeah I think the world's about done here"

[snow mountain]

MAY CHAOS TAKE THE WORLD

[manic coral]

ok then i cant just awnser "same people who worhsip the frenzy flame in elden ring"

[plucky juniper]

that song from that one frenzied merchant... 😭

[fierce pagoda]

anyways, i love life and living so much, so like thats why Providence is a bitch ass that needs to die instead

[split mortar]

Quantum mechanics exists, randomness already is important

[snow mountain]

shabriri grindset

[young socket]

people who want to die

and want to kill others

[icy veldt]

Tbf given what Yharim does, Provi kinda has a point (in-universe)

[hoary cape]

people worship things that would probably eradicate them if they ever met all the time

[manic coral]

no she doesn't

[pulsar ocean]

I killed shabriri the second I realized he took Yura's body
Also for the fit

[hoary cape]

yharim is not justifiable to eradicate all life over

provi just wants to do that

[plucky juniper]

deserved, especially if you believe he's why those poor merchants got locked up

[fierce pagoda]

but really, thank you calamity devs, for letting providence be one of the few gods we get to kill personally

it really fulfills something in me by killing providence

[icy veldt]

Yharim killing billions of innocents to avenge the dragons: 🤓
Me wiping out the rest of the world's population to avenge the gods: 💪😎

[fierce pagoda]

fuck you providence

🕊️

[tropic oak]

the only thing i wish for ingame is more evidence of xeroc's existence................ 💔

just a squee bit..........

a baby tiny bit..........

[snow mountain]

I would let midra's execution sword pierce my skull for the aura alone

[icy veldt]

You sure about that?

[tropic oak]

terminus is cool and all

[hoary cape]

i am the frog of violence i know what's justifiable for eradication over

[tropic oak]

but i still would like to know about his life as like. pre- or during-dragon monk

[manic coral]

The type of people who worship providence are the ones who think that contuining or, as of recently, rebuilding society isn't worth it and they should all just do whatever the fuck they want for the rest of their lives without concern andpotentially also contribute to ending all life if they're more extreme

[tropic oak]

i wonder what their day to day life was like

[fierce pagoda]

IMO providence is the schtewpidest character in calamity

[pulsar ocean]

Balright incattus

[manic coral]

Anybody in any group isn't just a hivemind with the same ideologies, after all

[icy veldt]

100% correct

[snow mountain]

why would that information be privy to us inlore

[manic coral]

there's varying levels of extremeness

[tropic oak]

i dont know? i just think it'd be cool?

[pulsar ocean]

Hivemind like the post ml boss

[plucky juniper]

agreed

[tropic oak]

(says xeroc's number 1 fan)

[fierce pagoda]

Providence reminds me of the smiling friends nihilists

[icy veldt]

Why repeat a mistake that has already been proven to result in failure?

[plucky juniper]

imo tho we should hear more about Xeroc as a god first, probably seen almost near-universally positively, which would be a sharp contrast when Yharim says "Oh he killed a dragon to get his power"

[snow mountain]

TOMAR

[plucky juniper]

the Requiem lore item could be so much more impactful then

[snow mountain]

would worship provvy

[pulsar ocean]

Why didn't we put yharon's soul in a jar before he could fly away to the aerie

[snow mountain]

😭

[split mortar]

Instant Teleportations tends to instant and teleport

[fierce pagoda]

wowah dragon ball

[rain topaz]

i dont realy understand lore can somoene explain it

[snow mountain]

among us

[tropic oak]

i want to release the new lore doc

[pulsar ocean]

The terrarian is you

[split mortar]

Cei can we

[plucky juniper]

truly a plot device to save yharim from an anticlimactic early end

[manic coral]

Tbf, it's not like anything you do hear about Xeroc before you get to that point is going to be obviously related to Xeroc

[rain topaz]

i know

[manic coral]

dunno why im refering in future tense there

technically already true

[tropic oak]

xeroc ❤️

[split mortar]

Cei can we please

[manic coral]

There will be more things though but none of them are going to just be. obviously about xeroc.

[dusk laurel]

what theyre trying to say is that they want you to review and proofread the doc

[plucky juniper]

(i think it'd make more sense if yharim himself had a device to tp Yharon's soul away so you don't immediately eat him and obliterate Yharim so easily by killing his bond with an auric dragon)

(than... yharon for some reason being able to tp his soul somewhere else)

[pulsar ocean]

slide

[fierce pagoda]

Yharim when its time to die:

[plucky juniper]

(its a confusing contrivance that just raises more questions)

[manic coral]

i can at Some Point when i am not as busy

[dusk laurel]

thumby

[dusk laurel]

elaborate

[manic coral]

also yeah elaborate on this

[pulsar ocean]

Are there weights to lift in the dragon aerie does yharim work out

[tropic oak]

i wonder if all followers of z eratros had the primordial light sigil

if there were more than 1 at all

[split mortar]

Wdym

[manic coral]

yharim absolutely works out

[tropic oak]

yharim routine

[dusk laurel]

i think it makes less sense if yharon could only tp his soul with some fuckass device because yharon wouldve been captured way sooner and yeah

[manic coral]

i mena there's also the issues of

consuming the auric soul

ok how do you do that complciated process

[icy veldt]

I wish I knew

[manic coral]

awnser: you don't becuase nobody left is alive to tell you

or

willing to tell you

[pulsar ocean]

How would anyone ever absorb yharon if he knows instant transmission

[tropic oak]

xeroc would tell me because xeroc likes me

if xeroc even remembers after

[fierce pagoda]

I think its cool that literally every human ever is made out of matter. It's physically impossible to not be. which means that no matter what anyone says, you matter! :D

[tropic oak]

850ish years

[split mortar]

You found out why yharon has survives

[manic coral]

i guess you could skip providence and then do yharon but uhhhhhhh good luck asking providence about that

[pulsar ocean]

that's unbalanced

[dusk laurel]

oh right yeah so heres the thing we cant do the ritual by sensible means

[manic coral]

i'm sure she'll very kindly receive any questions you have with some fourth degree burns

[hoary cape]

tbh the gods did technically capture yharon. They got his egg somehow which is what lead to yharon saving yharim from being executed for not agreeing to take the dragons soul

[pulsar ocean]

why don't we politely ask xeroc via terminus

[tropic oak]

ten million degree burns

[dusk laurel]

like we cant just suddenly know the ritual

[icy veldt]

Humans are squishy and easy to break. This is why you should aspire to the purity of the blessed machine

[tropic oak]

if the terminus could be used as a communication device with xeroc i think thatd be pretty cool

ngl

[manic coral]

becuase why would they tell you

[pulsar ocean]

Just google it

[tropic oak]

rock phone

[plucky juniper]

why does yharon have the ability to teleport his soul? why him?

[fierce pagoda]

even machines are made of matter!

[hoary cape]

wait if yharon's egg transports back to dragon aeire and someone got it does that mean that the gods can get to dragon aeire?

[manic coral]

i mean nothing to say it can't be eventually

they're busy right now though

[tropic oak]

this is true!

[plucky juniper]

i mean, plenty of humans probably didnt and still became gods, even if imperfect

[fierce pagoda]

busy with what?

[pulsar ocean]

Wouldn't it be cool for whenever we get to see the aerie in game you'd be able to see yharon's egg or whatever he is in the background

[icy veldt]

Being the Sun

[manic coral]

you literally can't without knowing it

[hoary cape]

how exactly did the god worshippers even get yharon's egg in the first place lol. Can regular people just stroll on to the hidden floating island thing

[dusk laurel]

they definitely learned it from somewhere

[fierce pagoda]

defending our reality from Noxus making portals somewhere else in the universe ooooh

[manic coral]

"consuming an auric soul" isn't literal

you don't jsut eat it

[plucky juniper]

wait, so where did they learn it?

[manic coral]

it's a complex process

[split mortar]

Aerie is the special resting place of the dragons so i dont see it far fetched the dragon whos auric domain is go there and rebirth auric dragons lets it go there once it dies
If the aerie is needed for rebirth then that makes even more sense cause then its yharons rebirth powers just taking it there for rebirth

[manic coral]

if it wasn't, there'd have been gods running around before xeroc

[hoary cape]

they might have extrapolated the info from hearing what xeroc did

[plucky juniper]

hmm, that makes sense

[icy veldt]

Maybe they were watching Xeroc as he performed his ritual

[pulsar ocean]

Wasn't slime God like the 1st dude after xeroc to find out about the ritual
Why did he pick the most fodder dragon and soul

[tropic oak]

cei can you confirm for me that the incense that comes out of xeroc's weapon is distortion weed that they took off DoG and while fighting their oppponents they actively gets said opponents high which slows down the enemies reflexes and thats why they always win fights

[fierce pagoda]

Is the resulting god always stronger than the dragon which they consumed the soul from?

[tropic oak]

[manic coral]

no it's just normal weed

sorry

:/

[tropic oak]

aw man

[hoary cape]

slime god got the dragon of gluttony that's not that bad of an option iirc

[tropic oak]

good enough

[manic coral]

homegrown, though

[plucky juniper]

still, from what I remember we got like thousands (IIRC) of auric dragons that eventually got absorbed and created a near-equal amount of gods

[tropic oak]

hell yeah

[split mortar]

And also yharon forcefully being reminded of the dragons failing after coming back to life due to an empty aerie is an image i just formed

[icy veldt]

Meth > weed

[tropic oak]

i might rip one for xeroc tonight (i smoke weed every night this would be no different)

[dusk laurel]

the starting strength of the god is the original person + the dragon's strength combined, and also whatever domain they have

[tropic oak]

[dusk laurel]

so yeah

[hoary cape]

i am still confused at how the god worshippers even got yharon's egg out oft he dragon aerie lol

[plucky juniper]

so thats a lot of people who somehow managed to figure out the ritual on their own

[manic coral]

they aerie is a very funny place that works in very funny ways

[hoary cape]

yah well only two managed to do it properly

[plucky juniper]

Eh, I could see Xeroc being the first.

[split mortar]

Theres a reason dragons didnt just camp the aerie so maybe a god in the cult knew how to access the place idk

[hoary cape]

the rest succeeded, but not fully

[split mortar]

Or this

[tropic oak]

xeroc my beloved

i will invent new xeroc lore right NOW

[icy veldt]

I should turn it into a smoldering crater

[pulsar ocean]

How is xeroc so smart he invented a soul eating dance

[plucky juniper]

It's entirely possible that people only realized they could take the souls of Auric Dragons if one guy actually did it. Otherwise, the dragons would be perceived as untouchable deities.

[hoary cape]

i would imagine some of the dragons were probably cocky and thought they could win a fight anyway only to die

[pulsar ocean]

And a cool rock

[split mortar]

That as well

Flame has that vibe

[icy veldt]

Yeah probably, something like "holy shit, draconic tyrants bleed?!" (Metaphorically, of course)

[manic coral]

also yeha about the xeroc thing, i mean

[plucky juniper]

This is a pretty well-substantiated effect irl, people will find it easier to do something if they have found evidence that it works

[young socket]

clearly they had someone who knew how to get into the aerie

[plucky juniper]

like, people might assume a boss is impossible right until they see someone beat it

[hoary cape]

i wonder how silva managed to get the ritual correct and no one else

[tropic oak]

i have a theory

xeroc and silva were dating

[hoary cape]

outside of xeroc

[plucky juniper]

or even, outright just beating said boss in one playthrough and clapping them in another

[tropic oak]

photosynthesis ship go

[young socket]

(i say this jokingly but this is literally the only explanation)

[manic coral]

another reaosn in-universe you ain't ever gonna directly hear about xeroc KNOWING it's about xeroc before like post-ML is because if you asked basically anybody anywhere ever about Xeroc they'd jsut go

"who"

even Draedon

[wanton pendant]

They used to have a welcome mat at the secret entrance.
Yharim had it removed.

[pulsar ocean]

Does xeroc workout

[tropic oak]

cei do u support the photosynthesis ship

[hoary cape]

yharim is one of the few people who know about xeroc's existence and well yharim probably too embarrassed to talk about that time he lost lol

[wanton pendant]

Yeah, probably.

[manic coral]

there are, like. a handful of people who could tell you about xeroc.

[wanton pendant]

What else to do when you're not doing taxes.

[split mortar]

@young socket you snail i said ot first

[wanton pendant]

Yeah, me of course.
That's clearly what you're referring to.

[plucky juniper]

could you elucidate me on why thats the case

[pulsar ocean]

Wouldn't all the weights n shit like explode on the sun

[hoary cape]

xeroc tax

[young socket]

shut up

[split mortar]

HENEIDBSAKDKSLMA

SNDND

[pulsar ocean]

I'm like confident he lives on the sun

[tropic oak]

this is a great day entire lore chat talking about xeroc

[young socket]

youre an idiot

[split mortar]

NAAN

[wanton pendant]

They remembered their genocides.
-Yharim.

[split mortar]

FUCKING XEROC TAX JUMPSCARE

[tropic oak]

a great day

[wanton pendant]

Not if you use them at night.

[manic coral]

only if the game can

which

no it cannot

[pulsar ocean]

Makes sense

[hoary cape]

he uses weights made of neuron stars obviously

[manic coral]

i only say what is already known

[tropic oak]

see: im ingame and i could tell you

but you have to find me

[manic coral]

why would i say too much and ruin the fun

[tropic oak]

in the gam

e

[plucky juniper]

no like why could only a handful of people tell you about xeroc

[wanton pendant]

Because people don't know about Xeroc.

[hoary cape]

you are being subjected to the xeroc tax what do you do

[manic coral]

Because why would they know about xeroc

[wanton pendant]

Obviously, Xeroc made a deal with the devil to annul his marriage.

[split mortar]

Fucking die

[pulsar ocean]

Does xeroc have access to the internet and a calamity tiktok account

[plucky juniper]

also i have a feeling people would know if xeroc was a thing (although the following quote is from Yharim the Slanderer...)

Word of the ascension spread quickly. Many attempted to follow suit, hoping to claim an Auric soul for themselves.

[wanton pendant]

And we all know how that goes.

[split mortar]

Thats what i do

[wanton pendant]

At least one person would have to know.

And how can you say if they're not dead?
Maybe they got stabbed immediately.

[tropic oak]

i hope yharim went around with like a poor drawing of the sun and paper and was like "HAVE YOU SEEN THIS GUY"

[split mortar]

People probably know someone ascended with zeratros but not much beyond that
Like
Yeah bound to happen
Eh prob some rando who died to yharim

[wanton pendant]

Someone saw the ritual.
Told others.
Probably died at some point.
Simple.

[hoary cape]

It's been like 800 years everyone who knew died or just doesn't talk about it

[dusk laurel]

information gets passed down and changed

[plucky juniper]

But who? How would somebody just witness the event, and then bring word of it to outside the Aerie?

[split mortar]

Vanillin help

[pulsar ocean]

"Yeah so xeroc actually beats goku"
"Who's xeroc?"

[tropic oak]

did someone say xeroc

[wanton pendant]

Maybe Xeroc had coworkers.
Janitor walked in a at a bad time maybe.

[hoary cape]

If you mention Xeroc you get hit with the Xerox tax

[wanton pendant]

Printers?

[split mortar]

We lack the info to know the full story rn

[dusk laurel]

if you pinky promise to never mention xeroc taxes again i will give you immunity

also yeah we dont have all the answers because

[split mortar]

Unfinished mod moment

[tropic oak]

the xeroc tax is me showing up to talk about xeroc

[plucky juniper]

Like, if what I'm hearing is true, the upper world was essentially uninhabitable to humans (because zeratros is an ass), aside from maybe the chosen of the Auric Dragons

[wanton pendant]

Yeah.

[plucky juniper]

so who the fuck would know of Xeroc's thing?

[wanton pendant]

Except Chrysadia.

[young socket]

more dragon monks

[dusk laurel]

1. the lore is not finished
2. xeroc was 850~ years ago
3. information is not always reliably passed down or even at all

[hoary cape]

Honestly I didn't know there was a Xerox tax joke already

[split mortar]

We dunno rn we lack the info

[pulsar ocean]

Where's that

[wanton pendant]

Someone of his calibre, maybe.
Or perhaps another dragon saw and explained it to others in shock.

[hoary cape]

Yharim killed a bunch of people that may have known

[wanton pendant]

It was in the sky.

[plucky juniper]

Also I just much like the idea of Xeroc himself going down to earth, showing off his power

[pulsar ocean]

Why would you live on the sky that's closer to the sun you burn faster

[split mortar]

Happened fucking ages ago like year ago or more

[dusk laurel]

i love mischaracterizing people

[wanton pendant]

And do you have reason to believe Xeroc was sufficiently narcissistic to do so?

[young socket]

why would they do that

[dusk laurel]

^^^

[wanton pendant]

Yeah but mountains have snow.
So it's cold up high.

[manic coral]

Are they stupid?

[young socket]

"i obtained this ultimate power by sacrificing my best friend to protect this land from unseen threats. but first lemme just aurafarm on these nobodies"

[split mortar]

Why would xeroc do that
If anything xeroc seems to wanna be unknown not known

[wanton pendant]

And even if Xeroc was showing off, that wouldn't explain how people would figure out the ritual.

[pulsar ocean]

does noxus fall under the cosmic threats category xeroc specializes in

[split mortar]

You dont get brainblasted with 37 youtube shorts ablut the god ascension while fighting slime god

[wanton pendant]

Probably?

[plucky juniper]

okay to be fair, if we're assuming the common story of Zeratros's end is like anything Yharim says in Prelude & Requiem, it's simply that "Zeratros's monk eased the passing of his master"

[split mortar]

I imagine so

[wanton pendant]

So, no indication of him aura farming.

[plucky juniper]

ye

[manic coral]

I shall now go to make dinner and then either write or read

[plucky juniper]

i stand corrected

[pulsar ocean]

If I was xeroc I'd aura farm

[manic coral]

probably read because im tired

[plucky juniper]

byeah i think xeroc is more interesting if people... yknow, know of him? or at least, the tale of the Monk

[wanton pendant]

It's supposed to be an obscure secret.

[plucky juniper]

because it makes Requiem, which is written as a major twist, kinda... lame...

it doesnt feel as impactful as it should be

[pulsar ocean]

Requiem like golden experience requiem

[manic coral]

That's valid

[young socket]

you can have someone be mentioned without their name being told

[split mortar]

Some vague details prob exist among the gods or other old people but with yharim happening to the world most info almost certainly got wiped

[manic coral]

but also yeah that

again

It's not like there'll be 0 details on xeroc before that

[split mortar]

These vague details are what can be mentioned

[young socket]

good example is that one elf guy in freiren who had a statue for being a hero

what was he a hero of? we dont know

[pulsar ocean]

Is ascending a flashy thing is there a light show after you ascend

[young socket]

we dont ever know

[manic coral]

but it's not going to blatantly be xeroc

[split mortar]

Cei how body horror was slime god while being morphed into slime

From humanoid to sludge

[manic coral]

ok bye im hungry

[wanton pendant]

I was thinking about who could possibly know about the ritual in present day.
One thought I had is that Permafrost might know it and that's why he worked for Yharim, in exchange for not being killed over it.

[fierce pagoda]

at what point is Xeroc name dropped and mentioned to the player? it was after lunatic cultist right? Yharim tells you all about him

[split mortar]

[plucky juniper]

moon lord

[young socket]

only yharim

[wanton pendant]

Requiem.

[wheat walrus]

shoots the melon

[young socket]

the only thing that says xeroc outright is requiem from yharim

[plucky juniper]

(in his lore item that isn't even about him because that got covered in lunatic cultist's lore item, which doesn't cover him because skeletron's lore item much more focuses on him rather than skeletron)

(it's almost as if yharim is ultrabiased)

[pulsar ocean]

Permafrost actually cryo freezed himself 800 years ago right after seeing xeroc ascend

[fierce pagoda]

"lore items" more like Yharyap

[dusk laurel]

thats because thats not a moonlord lore item it just drops from him

[fierce pagoda]

yharyap sessions

[plucky juniper]

nah its funnier if i treat it as such

[dusk laurel]

one day we'll actually have a better version of the lore items but thats not today

[dusk laurel]

okay

[fierce pagoda]

when sso drops well get moonlord bestiary entry

[pulsar ocean]

Yharim: "Have I told you about how I have been shot 5 times?" after you kill like fuckass plantera

[fierce pagoda]

so well know more then

[wanton pendant]

'It's not Cthulhu. Please stop asking about this.'
-SSO Bestiary entry for Moon Lord.

[plucky juniper]

cant wait for that

[pulsar ocean]

Would yharim die if you shot him with the best ever gun to ever gun

And the best ever bullet to ever bullet

[fierce pagoda]

the gun that can kill the past

[wanton pendant]

Depends.
How good is it on a scale of Engravings to Shoot a Hole in Mars.

[fierce pagoda]

from enter the gungeon

with the bullet that can kill the past

[plucky juniper]

"In the world of Calamity, 'Cthulhu' is a word for a big and dangerous threat."
-Calamity Lore that I sincerely hope is outdated.

[wanton pendant]

Do you have an alternative explanation?

Because if you say they should make Cthulhu canon I will call you an idiot.

[wheat walrus]

it's just a dev statement from tired rebecca that one time

[split mortar]

Isnt it the eoc bestiary?

Or misremembering

[young socket]

yes

[plucky juniper]

No. I mean make Cthulhu a mythical sea monster that got conflated with the Moon Lord.

[young socket]

it was the eoc bestiary

[wheat walrus]

i think she did mention that

[wanton pendant]

You're an idiot.

[wheat walrus]

dawg

[wanton pendant]

I did warn you.

[plucky juniper]

[dusk laurel]

this is going nowhere

[split mortar]

That would just add unneeded confusion for eoc and boc

[young socket]

and also like

wouldnt fix the problem of literally cthulhu being used

[wheat walrus]

100% exposing berecca for being wrong with this one chat, calamity mod is so over

[young socket]

youre just moving it from a giant space squid to a giant water squid

😭

[split mortar]

Preferebly they wouldnt be called eoc and boc or ml have true eyes but thats from vanilla and that bestiary entry is just a patch on like the queen slime stuff rn i think

[young socket]

people will still ask "but is it actually cthulhu????"

[wanton pendant]

It's just Cthulhu but not an elder god because he already is depicted living in the ocean anyway.

[pulsar ocean]

But wouldn't Cthulhu be like sick af

[plucky juniper]

im afraid thats what happens when you dont want cthulhu in your lore for a mod for a game that features creatures related to cthulhu

you just... have to deal with this mess

[wheat walrus]

googus bagoogus

[pulsar ocean]

Yuta a bitch tho

[split mortar]

Yeah and im willing to give calamity leeway over that

[wheat walrus]

i think the problem was less not wanting cthulhu and more eoc/boc not being connected w ml in cal lore

[wheat walrus]

what does bro have to do w this

[wanton pendant]

They did.
By saying it's not Cthulhu.

[split mortar]

Kozz just a hater

[pulsar ocean]

The conversation lacked yuta slander

[wheat walrus]

we just agenda kaisening for the fuck of it

😭

[plucky juniper]

its not a bad thing to not want cthulhu, mind you, but you are probably never going to sever Cthulhu from Calamity lore discussions unless you physically straight up rename the bosses

[split mortar]

Gojo loses to profaned guardians agenda

[wheat walrus]

it's time i become the agenda hunter twin

[split mortar]

No its time for me to sleep fuck you good night bye

[pulsar ocean]

You can't stop the agenda

[wanton pendant]

You say that, and yet...

[wheat walrus]

^weak rathian vic

[wanton pendant]

It would not work.

[tropic oak]

xeroc

cei can you change my name to john xeroc

[wheat walrus]

no that's not the joke

[wanton pendant]

YO, IT'S YHARIM!

[wheat walrus]

cei can't change your name to john xeroc because she is no more than a developer

[plucky juniper]

why.

[tropic oak]

right

[wheat walrus]

she also died of hunger

[tropic oak]

@stoic lark can u change my name to john xeroc