#lore-discussion

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real silo
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The year is 12350, the world has gone through 3 total-extinction events

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looks at map

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suspiciously calamity shaped world

fierce pagoda
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oh i get it, its like having buttered bread, but asking "do you belive in butter or bread?"

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it can both happen

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one doesnt affect the other

random mulch
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the universe has been around for 14 billion years and earth only 4 billion

young socket
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we should have mind goblins

random mulch
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new debuff

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incurable

dusk laurel
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colgator are you real

random mulch
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colgator is an llm running off of 2 badly translated novels

snow mountain
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im gonna boycott calamity until they un-goblin-racist their lore

fierce pagoda
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its up to YOU

random mulch
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maybe we're all just dying of carbon monoxide poisoning

dusk laurel
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both

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also why are you calling it pangrea...

fierce pagoda
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I was referencing a stupid video where they asked "do you believe in big bang or pangea"

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but they kept saying pangrea

random mulch
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unknown

dusk laurel
split mortar
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/avatar colgator

dusk laurel
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no mind to think
no will to break

abstract hedge
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That's what I meant, bad wording on my part.

random mulch
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behold, the beautiful continent map that took me seven thousand hours

split mortar
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Add more water

random mulch
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no

fierce pagoda
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mystery block continent

random mulch
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i actually used to mod ksp a lot so i definitely could make something

pulsar ocean
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was there an auric dragon of gods

real silo
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nou

abstract hedge
pulsar ocean
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the dragon

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has a domain

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of goddery

abstract hedge
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What would that even mean though

pulsar ocean
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that its an auric dragon

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of gods

abstract hedge
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Like what would having the "domain of goddery" do cause it's not something tangible like flames or the seas.

wanton pendant
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Since the idea is that the World Soul encompassed things on Terraria, and there were no gods at the time, I doubt it.
Like, there's no Auric Soul of Mars.

random mulch
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gluttony also isn't exactly tangible

wanton pendant
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Also Auric Souls can be concepts.

feral skiff
wanton pendant
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Same with Godly Souls.

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Since Dogma, War, Gluttony, etc. aren't tangible things.

wanton pendant
icy veldt
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Dogma balls

steady jetty
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does yharim eat honey if he likes bees so much or is it banned in Terraria to touch the deiteis cultivations

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dumbass leader.

wanton pendant
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Yharim doesn't see bees as deities.

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And bees consent to giving honey usually.

abstract hedge
wanton pendant
icy veldt
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What if there was a God of Bees, and Yharim made sure to kill him quietly so no one would know about him?

steady jetty
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He would never

wanton pendant
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Primordial Light was King of Dragons, but not because of the specific power probably because he was really strong.

steady jetty
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Even Yharim has his limits

abstract hedge
icy veldt
wanton pendant
steady jetty
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unless that god was A TYRANT of bees

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Then yes...

icy veldt
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He wants to seem like he has limits, but that's not genuine principle, that's just a rhetorical trick

steady jetty
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I think he would kill them...

wanton pendant
steady jetty
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Slaughtering the god of bees

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So he can become

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The true bee lord

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And rule over Beerraria

split mortar
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Yharim racist

wanton pendant
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Of, also Sacrifices, that's a concept.

steady jetty
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Yikes!

abstract hedge
steady jetty
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i should read the lore again i dont even know what changed since last year

split mortar
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I imagine gods are associated with divinity most the time

wanton pendant
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That's because Primordial Light seems to be generally pretty strong.
But just using it doesn't make you royalty.

abstract hedge
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Well yeah I'm not saying that.

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The gods aren't even a unified force so being a king of them doesn't make sense.

wanton pendant
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Never stopped Dogma from trying.

steady jetty
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Last time I read the lore I remember a lot of backstories were left for interpertration

split mortar
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Tbf i imagine godking yharim would have the force to make them unified

abstract hedge
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Yharim doesn't want them unified.

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He wants them all dead.

split mortar
steady jetty
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The Hunt type shi ManaRose

abstract hedge
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The fuck is the godking plan

wanton pendant
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Yharim's entire backstory.

abstract hedge
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Oh that

steady jetty
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huh

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I dont remember the lore very well since its been some time I read it and I started rereading it like, a minute ago, but wasn't Yharim whole idea that he is a mortal crusading against the gods and caused calamity (CALAMITY GET IT HAHAHAHAHAHA) and a lot of unnecessary deaths and disasters in his blind hunt for the gods

abstract hedge
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Yeah

steady jetty
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honestly, since I also play Sta Rail, bro represents perfectly the path of the Hunt lmao. You do exactly that, hunt someone done not caring for the collateral. Goal justifies the means type

abstract hedge
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Basically his backstory from what I remember is that some people (Idk if they were ever named) tried to force him to consume Yharon's soul and become really strong but he refused. He was then gonna be executed but in doing it by lava Yharon's egg hatched and saved him.

steady jetty
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bro had a world shattering crashout over that

tropic oak
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hi

abstract hedge
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It's in Yharon's lore item,

tropic oak
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whatcha talkin about

steady jetty
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yharim's backstory

young socket
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hiii john

steady jetty
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since I didn't touch the lore in a while

abstract hedge
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"I was destined to consume his Auric soul when he hatched, and rule forever as God-King.

Destiny is for the weak.

I rejected their whims, and upended their scheme. I was sentenced to execution for treason.
Their meek, ingratiated swine cast both Yharon's egg and I into the magma of Hell.
The intense heat hideously scarred me, but birthed Yharon anew. He rose, wreathed in fire and saved my life."

tropic oak
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guy

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guy get chosen for god king

steady jetty
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And im guessing his hunt aint over?

tropic oak
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guy say no

steady jetty
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Like, Xeroc is still alive

tropic oak
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guy get thrown into lava

steady jetty
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Right?

tropic oak
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guy dragon SAVE guy

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guy go and murder all gods to this day

split mortar
tropic oak
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yes xeroc is still alive

split mortar
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Unmatched power of the sun

snow mountain
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xeroc is stoned thats why hes not active

steady jetty
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vs coughing gold bar

young socket
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dinky sword versus the unmatched power of the sun

snow mountain
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hes on that premium primordial aerie weed

steady jetty
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Do we have xeroc lore?

snow mountain
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cultivated by primordial light

steady jetty
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Idk why I imagine Xeroc

wanton pendant
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Silva is also alive.
Providence and Slime God are alive unless you kill them.
Miscellaneous other gods who are probably far away in hiding also alive.

split mortar
steady jetty
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And I also imagined them

steady jetty
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As the most humble God, for no reason

wanton pendant
steady jetty
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Like no lore

wanton pendant
abstract hedge
steady jetty
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I just imagine them humble af

wanton pendant
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That's why he wants YOU!

split mortar
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Xeroc is not a creator of everything characer

steady jetty
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Idk if I imagine Xeroc correctly

split mortar
steady jetty
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Since idk the lore lmao

abstract hedge
wanton pendant
snow mountain
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mm boiled

steady jetty
split mortar
abstract hedge
# split mortar

Yharim is trying to manipulate you anyways, this doesn't really depend on your lore.

steady jetty
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do u guys think Xeroc changed their form or they stayed with human form because they are just chill af like that

abstract hedge
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I doubt they'd really get a choice.

wanton pendant
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We don't know what makes gods look how they do.

steady jetty
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i mean they are a god, surely they can choose an appearence

abstract hedge
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If we finally fight them and they're still human that'd kinda suck.

wanton pendant
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Tyrian being dead is in the probably I think.

split mortar
steady jetty
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Yeah

wanton pendant
split mortar
steady jetty
abstract hedge
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Also the design we know of is explicitly pre ascension so it's a pretty safe assumption they're post ascension one is different.

wanton pendant
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It's the same but he's wearing a wig and fake mustache.

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With the fake nose glasses.

steady jetty
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peak

split mortar
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Xeroc gets hair

pulsar ocean
wanton pendant
steady jetty
tropic oak
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we love xeroc in this household

steady jetty
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for what reason!!!!

wanton pendant
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Why are you in my house?

split mortar
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Noxus the bum out of the three apocalyptic goobers

snow mountain
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noxus fisher king theory

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its real i swear

split mortar
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Yeah the theory exists

abstract hedge
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Noxus is such a bum he's not even a real god.

split mortar
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Noxus never is called a god

wanton pendant
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Noxus is the Devourer's abusive father and makes him get beer (gods) to fuel his alcoholism.

steady jetty
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If crusade and hunt is over tf does Yharim even do anymore,,, exist?

snow mountain
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hes dying

split mortar
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Yeah exist depressed in aerie

steady jetty
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Mop

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clean the jungle temple every now and then

tropic oak
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clean the aerie

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every now and again

split mortar
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Yharim fought the sun and failed probably if this dev is trustworthy

wanton pendant
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He's too racist to clean that.

steady jetty
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clean yharon

snow mountain
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king of the junjile

tropic oak
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yharim has no relation to the jungle other than being really racist toward the lihzards

wanton pendant
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Glad to hear that you're Yharim, John VCMM or should I say Yharim.

tropic oak
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i am racist towards the l;ihzards ive been given divine information as to why yharim is

abstract hedge
tropic oak
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so now i am

snow mountain
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id be a bird - a bird dragon hybrid; king of the junjile but still, social, and with it

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you'd be a rat

split mortar
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Is yharon trans

abstract hedge
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No

snow mountain
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yes

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its canon

steady jetty
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yes

snow mountain
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its in the lore

steady jetty
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dont listen to spooky

wanton pendant
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Transcended lizardanity.

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Transgender?
Based on those old tweets, I don't like the chances.

steady jetty
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Transcended weak flesh too if Yharon went with Draedon

split mortar
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Draedon acknowledges flesh has upsides to machine

icy veldt
split mortar
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Do i post silva

steady jetty
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silva posting

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What going on with her too actually

split mortar
wanton pendant
steady jetty
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Is she a dryad anymore

wanton pendant
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She is.

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She can't die.

split mortar
split mortar
steady jetty
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Oh so just like

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The lore I remember

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noob yharim

wanton pendant
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She's a physical embodiment of Nature.
So as long as nature exists...

abstract hedge
steady jetty
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cant kill shi

split mortar
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She is
First dryad
Elemental of nature
Goddess of life

wanton pendant
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She also became a goddess.

split mortar
icy veldt
steady jetty
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We better get one day Silva subplot of wanting to obliterate Yharim

wanton pendant
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Didn't end well.

split mortar
abstract hedge
split mortar
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The goddess part has little to no affect on her immortality

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Elementals are just

wanton pendant
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Goddess of Life part isn't even helpful.

split mortar
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Immortal

snow mountain
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alchemy

steady jetty
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bout to be goddess of death for Yharim if she even breaks out of there 🙏 ManaRose [and get put back in]

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ever*

wanton pendant
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Not exactly how it works.

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She can totally get out, she's done it before.

snow mountain
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life elemental kinda sucks cus it doesn't fit into the four classical elements like the rest

wanton pendant
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Yeah because Heat is always one of them.

snow mountain
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salamanders

split mortar
snow mountain
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NN

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it makes sense within jainism's

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cosmology

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really well actually

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problem is though is that cal's elementals function more akin to classical alchemy wherein they are moreso supernatural beings than actual physical objects

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shoutout to gnomes

snow mountain
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a single being

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its a mixed bag

snow mountain
split mortar
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Suffering

hasty valley
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Been a while since i revised myself here but

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Is silva even conscious

steady jetty
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needs more hype moments and aura in here...

split mortar
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Uhhhh
I highly doubt she is rn

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But she does open chests

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And bless the fish

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So maybe thinking to some level

hasty valley
snow mountain
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shes more like several things at once

hasty valley
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Though chest is

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Interesting

wanton pendant
split mortar
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We dunno how blessings work tbf

wanton pendant
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Her essence being consumed just makes stuff bigger.

hasty valley
wanton pendant
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And I think Primordial Wyrm is a bit more than just a bit bigger.

split mortar
abstract hedge
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Speaking of those two, doesn't Silva want to keep Xeroc away from the terminus if he ever comes back for it or is that just the wyrm being stupid?

split mortar
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We dunno but wyrm is valid reasoning to think they dont want xeroc to terminus

abstract hedge
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I swear a dev mentioned Silva wanting to guard it when they were talking about Eidolists, alongside the Wyrm only being her second strongest guard.

split mortar
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The wyrm is nearly as strong as yharim so id be surprised if it is only 2nd place

abstract hedge
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I would assume Braelor but idk how strong he is.

wanton pendant
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Strong enough to fight Yharim pre-upgrade.

split mortar
abstract hedge
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Exos aren't equal to Yharim.

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They're close but still weaker, Yharim is stronger than them and calamitas.

split mortar
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yharim has gotten stronger since draedon has seen yharim

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And yharim has prob trained

abstract hedge
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Yeah idk what they were talking about when they said the PW was only the second strongest of Silva's soldiers unless I'm misremembering something I read like an hour or two ago.

split mortar
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Prob are misremembering, i couldnt find anything about that in this channel

abstract hedge
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I'll go try and find that.

wanton pendant
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How I see it, Yharim before the upgrades was comparable to Exo Mechs and Calamitas, but odds are out of his favour if he were to fight them (Calamitas' trauma notwithstanding).
With the upgrade the chances of either beating him on their own are near zero.

tropic oak
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we have a fairly accurate chart

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for how strong the characters are

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do we not

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its in our doc

split mortar
abstract hedge
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Found it.

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So yeah Silva has a stronger asset, either Braelor (which wouldn't make too much sense) or something else not yet revealed.

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Or it got retconned idk.

split mortar
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Triangular posting yet again

wanton pendant
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Obviously number one is Silva herself.

split mortar
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Even tho every god is below scal

abstract hedge
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Only the ingame ones.

split mortar
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No

wanton pendant
split mortar
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Every god but xeroc

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Is below scal or exos

abstract hedge
wanton pendant
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Calamitas is comparable to Exo Mechs, if not stronger.
Exo Mechs surpass all gods except Xeroc.

split mortar
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Xeroc is the strongest thing in calamity thats the one exception

wanton pendant
abstract hedge
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Eh not enough to count imo

split mortar
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The guy throws every boss at you

wanton pendant
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Silva is Goddess of Life.
Therefore she can give ÜberCharges.

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The giant glowing sigil isn't enough for you?

split mortar
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Still point stands silvs is below exos and scal

abstract hedge
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He doesn't make a major appearance but yeah he's ingame, I meant more as ones that physically appear.

wanton pendant
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The sigil is technically Xeroc somehow.

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And I'd say being the final challenge is pretty major.

split mortar
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Water wraith do you have dementia

wanton pendant
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Xeroc clearly cares about branding so much they are also the branding.
It's an extension of the self.

dusk laurel
split mortar
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Is shakidou gay

fierce pagoda
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tremendous lore value

wanton pendant
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Noxus isn't a god.

reef nova
split mortar
light moth
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But who is it then?

random mulch
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extremely official shape of the heartlands clueless

split mortar
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Noxus is just a thingamajig

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A doohickey

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(We dunno what noxus is other then vaguely kinda maybe like signus)

reef nova
random mulch
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mog us

light moth
split mortar
wanton pendant
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DoG is considerably weaker but since we don't know the difference it's not unreasonable to think he could make it up.

light moth
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Because he is prick?

wanton pendant
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DoG eats people.

split mortar
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DoG is a prick and also like actually evil i think

tropic oak
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xeroc :)

icy veldt
split mortar
light moth
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Btw
Who would win between Yharon and DoG?
I think that they could actually beef up if Yharon noticed how DoG was trying to manipulate Yharim

random mulch
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plout tweest: heartlands smal

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just kidding i inverted their positions (big boie being to the east would make heartlands dry as shit)

split mortar
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So yharon most times yharon wins i think

split mortar
hasty valley
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An eldritch amalgamation akin to lovecraftian beings

random mulch
hasty valley
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It kinda makes sense if the theory of dog’s devoured god essence getting teleported to noxus for it to be absorbed is proven

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I would imagine that with the varying types of god essence, it just becomes more amalgamated

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Hell i might even headcanon that the gods devoured by DOG would be semi conscious being trapped within Noxus’s complex

light moth
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I just remembered one thought of mine
Do you all remember when the true final route/boss in games was unlocked only in higher difficulties?

split mortar
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Cal wont do that

light moth
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Imagine if Yharim was an exclusive to Dea-

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Meeeeeeeeh

hasty valley
tropic oak
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aeaeaeaeae

hasty valley
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Revengeance is the main central difficulty that calamity’s built upon

light moth
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I know
Plus
It is too hard to make

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Considering you can toggle them

cloud ibex
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cal is trying not to lock content behind higher difficulties anyway

split mortar
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^
Thats why i denied it instantly
They have done stuff against that very notion

cloud ibex
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items is one thing but a whole ass boss fight, let alone Yharim?

light moth
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I was just wondering how this mechanic could be potentially implemented in Calamity
I was not bringing it up seriously

cloud ibex
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i think the only way it could be implemented in theory was if you couldn't change difficulties and you chose them on world creation instead

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would probably still be able to get around it with other mods but at that point it's no longer in cal's hands

random mulch
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extremely real continent map that definitely doesn't contradict any statements clueless

snow mountain
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horrific large landmass

thick slate
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is this pangrea or the big bang theory

wanton pendant
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We already did that bit.

thick slate
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i did it better

random mulch
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oh right the continent which literally has nothing

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uhhhhhh

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i know

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pull an americas

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yeah sure these are 2 continents now

thick slate
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make a canal

wanton pendant
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Guys here is my map of the Heartlands. Ilmeran desert is that big bit sticking down, the bear shaped island in the top left is one of Chrysadia's floating islands and the bigger one next to it is the Corruption island.

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The island really far away is Evil Hell Continent.

random mulch
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alright here's the map go nuts idk

icy veldt
wanton pendant
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Party Girl mentions it.

icy veldt
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BOTTOM right

wanton pendant
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Yeah exactly.

icy veldt
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XD Is that a reference to Karl XII's exile in the Ottoman Empire?

wanton pendant
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No, no, the rectangle shape invokes a dance floor.

icy veldt
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Except wait no, Yharim is just the Calamity version of Carolus Rex (source: it came to me in a dream)

wanton pendant
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And as we all know Sweden is where all the parties are.

thick slate
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meatbal

random mulch
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what if the calamitous planet was secretly just a giant meatball

icy veldt
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Crimson meatballs!

snow mountain
split mortar
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True that is a rare taylor appearance

thick slate
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hi

split mortar
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Hope ya been doing well

thick slate
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im sick

split mortar
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Oh

thick slate
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but other than that yea

snow mountain
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🫡

thick slate
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life p good

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i drive motorcycle

snow mountain
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waow

thick slate
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i build concerts

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i inject hormone into thigh

snow mountain
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nicee

brave dew
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guys if i call signus ceaseless and storm weaver the sentinels is it lore accurate or not?

eager bluff
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not technically lore accurate but like people generally call them that because its faster and sounds better than the distortion trio

brave dew
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alright

pliant ruin
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they aren't really Sentinels of anything they're all independent from eachother but yeah if you want to call them that go ahead

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its not lore accurate but dont let that stop you

eager bluff
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also like 90% of everybody knows them as the sentinels so its less confusing that way too

pliant ruin
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just call them the distortion goon squad

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gg ez

spring zodiac
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How did Xeroc become the way he is? Is it similar to what Yharim almost did?

random mulch
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xeroc consumed zeratros' auric soul, he was the first to become a god

spring zodiac
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So then Zeratros is a dragon

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like Yharon

random mulch
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yes

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dragon of primordial light

long bloom
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first and second most powerful respectively

spring zodiac
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So then even if Yharim did what Xeroc did he still wouldnt have been the strongest?

spring zodiac
random mulch
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yes

long bloom
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that's why yharim hates them

wanton pendant
random mulch
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probably also depends on what the domain would become, since it would have been an imperfect ascension

dusk laurel
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the power of the god depends on how strong the person and dragon were, aswell as domain

spring zodiac
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what would happen if the player did that to a dragon

wanton pendant
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You would become a god.

spring zodiac
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Would the player become as strong as Xeroc tho

dusk laurel
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no

wanton pendant
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Unlikely.

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Xeroc is exceedingly powerful.

spring zodiac
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I thought the player character was special tho, or is it just that the player is but Xeroc is more special

random mulch
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the image...

wanton pendant
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Xeroc can control the sun, for reference.

dusk laurel
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the issue is that getting to xeroc's power is pretty unrealistic, unless you use your divine right

snow mountain
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my buddy eric did that once

wanton pendant
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It falls under the same category as a lot of the more powerful beings. Is it possible to reach their level? Yes. Is it feasible? No.

spring zodiac
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How strong even are the strongest Calamity characters

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like Xeroc or Noxus

wanton pendant
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Xeroc is virtually unbeatable unless literally everything at their strongest ganged up on them.

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Moon Lord is implicitly a threat that can topple almost anything.

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Noxus is strong, but details are unknown.

spring zodiac
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in calamity lore isnt he super weakened tho?

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Moon Lord i mean

wanton pendant
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Yes.

spring zodiac
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I thought he used to be way stronger

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that makes sense

wanton pendant
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Look at the guy.

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He was.

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He's still a powerful being.

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That's after the lobotomy and bisection.

spring zodiac
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bruh who was able to even do that to him

wanton pendant
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Yharim can punch through mountains and has killed hundreds of thousands, and is currently the strongest known mortal.

wanton pendant
random mulch
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never heard of him punching through a mountain

wanton pendant
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Dev said a few days ago he should be able to do that kinda thing.

spring zodiac
wanton pendant
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He is really strong.

wanton pendant
random mulch
spring zodiac
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So then what im hearing is Goku beats all of calamity

random mulch
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goku is goku

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he is john powercliffinjg

spring zodiac
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Gokuversal

wanton pendant
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Here's part of the claim.

random mulch
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still a bit vague but god damn

pliant ruin
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Xeroc has had like every single factor in his favour to become strong as hell

spring zodiac
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wasnt Xeroc a warrior monk or something before he became a god

pliant ruin
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Was already strong as fuck as a mortal, absorbed the most powerful auric soul, had a "Perfect" ascencion ,trained for god knows how long

pliant ruin
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Seemingly specifically particularly close to zeratros

spring zodiac
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What made his ascension so special?

random mulch
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they had the terminus

spring zodiac
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Isnt that the boss rush thing

wanton pendant
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Yes.

spring zodiac
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Why didnt he keep it then, what if someone else uses it

pliant ruin
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Most gods, when ascended, don't get the same exact domain as the dragon had

wanton pendant
pliant ruin
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Per example, Providence, despite absorbing the soul of Flame, has the domains of ash

wanton pendant
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Didn't work, Silva found it.

pliant ruin
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Slime God is... well, slime, despite absorbing the soul of gluttony

spring zodiac
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I bet slime god was a chill dude

pliant ruin
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A "perfect" ascencion is one done through the help of the Terminus, where the domain remains the exact same

young socket
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i feel like he wouldve been a chill guy

pliant ruin
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We only know two gods who managed to do so

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Those being Xeroc (Primordial Light) and Silva (Life)

young socket
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she also got a guard dog wyrm!

spring zodiac
#

so then whats up with Silva

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is that dude a good guy

wanton pendant
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Nature Elemental.

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She became the Goddess of Life.

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The only Elemental that doesn't seem to want to tear your face off.

spring zodiac
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Oh so then shes good

wanton pendant
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She's blended.

random mulch
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she's comatose

pliant ruin
#

Silva was seemingly a very kind and benevolent goddess from the little we know

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SHe's c urrently in a basically comatose-like state at the bottom of the abyss but she'll return eventually since she's functionally immortal

wanton pendant
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Was the best friend of Wood Man and Shadow Man.

wanton pendant
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She gets thrown in there like, once a month probably.

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Yharim.

random mulch
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got chopped up by yharim and thrown in

spring zodiac
#

did she get beaten up by someone

pliant ruin
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Yharim beat her to death and he threw her down there to make her regeneration harder

wanton pendant
#

Yeah, Yharim.

spring zodiac
#

that makes sense

pliant ruin
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or well, beat her to "death"

spring zodiac
#

So then Yharim hates all the gods

pliant ruin
#

yeah

wanton pendant
#

Yes exactly.

#

It's basically his catchphrase.

pliant ruin
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regarldess of whether they're evil or good, he considers all of them ontologically sinful and deserving of death

spring zodiac
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Why are some of them still alive then tho

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like look at slime god

wanton pendant
#

Genocide hard.

pliant ruin
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Because they managed to escape

wanton pendant
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Slime is surprisingly fast.

pliant ruin
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Slime God is... well, i mean, yo usee it for yourself in the fight

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Literally just

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flees

pulsar ocean
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why didnt yharim just read the wiki and craft the slime god summoning item with 50 slime and some evil slime

pliant ruin
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it's literally made of Slime so it's very good at hiding and running away

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slippery bastard, quite literally

icy veldt
wanton pendant
pliant ruin
#

Providence can genuinely just. teleport

spring zodiac
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i hope someone knows that gif

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it wont work tho

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So the basically Yharim is just chilling and is waiting for us to come fight him

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cause he failed

wanton pendant
#

Yeah.

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Depressed, with only his dragon bro for company, watching you on his rock phone because he's got nothing better to do.

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Like say sorry.

spring zodiac
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dont we kill Yharon tho

wanton pendant
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Yeah. Jerk.

random mulch
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he's not dead

wanton pendant
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Now he's alone with an egg.

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You can't talk to an egg!

spring zodiac
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Whats in the egg

random mulch
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but he's gone for the next decade and yharim will probably die before he comes back

wanton pendant
spring zodiac
#

ohhh so Yharon is immortal

wanton pendant
#

Yes.

spring zodiac
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he just phoenix's himself back

wanton pendant
#

He's the Dragon of Rebirth for a reason.

random mulch
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takes a decade though

spring zodiac
#

So then what if we kill Yharim and then take Yharons soul AND THEN XEROC SUPERBOSS

wanton pendant
#

His literal power is ressurect Auric Dragons. Not all that useful nowadays...

spring zodiac
#

cinema

wanton pendant
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You don't know how.

random mulch
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the ritual's pretty much lost to history

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so we can't ascend

spring zodiac
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hes a smart guy

icy veldt
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Which is just sad, because it would solve that whole "Yharon coming back" problem permanently

wanton pendant
#

So he won't tell you.

spring zodiac
#

Why cant their be anymore dragons tho?

wanton pendant
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Because they're dead.

spring zodiac
#

if Yharon is alive couldnt there be more

wanton pendant
#

Not without the Auric Souls.

spring zodiac
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yeah but Yharon is alive tho, what if he just could take his DNA and create more

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ohhh ok that makes sense

wanton pendant
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Yharon's ability ONLY works on Auric Dragons.

random mulch
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you can't replicate a soul

spring zodiac
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so then they arent just physical beings, they are also special cause the soul

wanton pendant
#

Even if you cloned Yharon, it's be a normal, everyday dragon.

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As Rebirth only revives Auric Dragons, no amount of cloning or necromancy can do a thing about it.

icy veldt
#

^ It's specifically Auric Dragons that are ontologically sinful. Regular dragons get to be judged as individuals

wanton pendant
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Since an Auric Dragon requires an Auric Soul.

spring zodiac
#

So then Yharons ability is to revive dragons but he wont revive the other dragons?

wanton pendant
#

No Auric Souls, no Auric Dragons.

random mulch
#

when an auric soul is consumed, it's gone

wanton pendant
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Because they don't have an Auric Soul anymore.

fierce pagoda
#

is there any god with more than 1 auric soul consumed

random mulch
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the consumption process fuses the two souls and they are inseperable afterwards

spring zodiac
#

so then for eternity Yharon is just gonna die and come back since nobody knows or wants to absorb his soul

wanton pendant
fierce pagoda
#

ravager type situation?

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like semi alive

wanton pendant
#

Probably killed at some point for being dangerous.

random mulch
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ravager's body ascended twice but agnus' soul is long gone

eager bluff
icy veldt
wanton pendant
#

If you did three... Then you're basically dead.

spring zodiac
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I dont get why Yharim would let Yharon die tho if they are best friends, why wouldnt Yharim come down and just kill us before we get strong(unless its apart of the lore that we revive?)

wanton pendant
#

He wants us to kill him.

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So we can prove our worth.

dusk laurel
#

yharon would just revive anyways

wanton pendant
#

Yharon doesn't want Yharim to die.

dusk laurel
#

and its not like we could ascend

eager bluff
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because yharim wants us to become a second yharim and also yharon is coming back regardless

wanton pendant
#

So he'd rather risk his life taking you down.

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That's why Yharon takes recoil damage. Unlike every other boss, he ONLY wants you dead, and doesn't care about his own wellbeing at all.

spring zodiac
#

Ok so then Yharim wants 2 things since his plan failed. He wants to die in a big final battle but also he wants us to continue doing what he was doing since he cant?

wanton pendant
#

Yeah.

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A worthy successor must surpass him.

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How else will they kill Xeroc?

random mulch
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depending on which bosses you killed in your playthrough you might have already been continuing his work

spring zodiac
#

What gods are even alive at this point tho? arent only like 3 of the bosses gods?

random mulch
#

hold on i got a thing

spring zodiac
#

then there is silva which someone said is alive at the bottom of the abyss

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Xeroc is also out there but hes too strong

wanton pendant
#

Slime God and Providence are the only living gods we see.

dusk laurel
#

there are around 20-30ish gods remaining
not all are bosses or even on the continent

wanton pendant
#

Ravager, Hive Mind and Perforators are varying flavours of dead.

spring zodiac
wanton pendant
#

And a few dozen alive we don't see.

eager bluff
#

there isnt a hard number of remaining gods but when generalizing the answer is not many

spring zodiac
#

Are there gods just out in space also

eager bluff
#

probably not

wanton pendant
#

Even on the very high end I would say less than fifty. A hundred or more would be exceedingly too high.

spring zodiac
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cause isnt there a ton of stuff going on out in space in calamity

wanton pendant
#

There's worms.

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:)

spring zodiac
#

How do the aliens play into Calamity then

eager bluff
#

they exist

wanton pendant
#

They're from a ruined planet.

young socket
#

they certainly do exist

wanton pendant
#

And the worms.

spring zodiac
#

what worms

wanton pendant
#

None others are known.

young socket
#

there are space worms who eat mana and martians that dont have a habital home

wanton pendant
#

Providence tried looking in an alternate future.

young socket
random mulch
#

the worms from outer space

#

those worms

spring zodiac
#

Ohhh ok

young socket
#

you uhh

#

might wanna read the lore doc

wanton pendant
#

That one doesn't have Space.

random mulch
#

there's more worms from another place but that place isn't space

wanton pendant
#

There are worms everywhere.

random mulch
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if there weren't, it wouldn't be calamity

wanton pendant
#

We're gonna get to the Dragon Aerie and there will be a worm.

spring zodiac
#

but the question is who is the strongest worm in calamity

wanton pendant
#

Primordial Wyrm.

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Yharim Worm.

random mulch
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maybe noxus if he was a worm clueless

spring zodiac
#

Noxus is the type to be some sort of shape i think

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not a worm

dusk laurel
#

xeroc is a worm trust
my source is that misinformation from a reddit post

spring zodiac
#

he doesnt have the worm vibe to me

dusk laurel
#

if noxus was a worm thatd be lame and also just uninspired

wanton pendant
#

Reddit comments are from an alternate timeline I swear.

fierce pagoda
#

noxus will be a hyper worm

young socket
spring zodiac
#

What if Draedon is secretely a worm and hes playing the long game to kill all non worms

dusk laurel
#

tsuki got the reference

spring zodiac
#

think about it

dusk laurel
#

im not a conspiracy theorist sorry

wanton pendant
#

Not out of the question.

spring zodiac
#

So then the thing in the chair isnt draedons physical body?

#

so then hes just off chilling somehwere

wanton pendant
#

He doesn't have a true body.

fierce pagoda
#

whats next for the calamity world after we defeat Yharim

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will there be a huge global celebration

wanton pendant
#

Dreadon IS the program.

dusk laurel
wanton pendant
#

He's an AI.

dusk laurel
#

draedon is literally a bunch of servers

wanton pendant
spring zodiac
#

Worm servers

eager bluff
#

worm boss alignment chart

random mulch
#

devs should make a lantern festival with new, larger lanterns that lasts for several days clueless

spring zodiac
#

When are we gonna get a calamity conspiracy channel

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I think this Draedon worm conspiracy runs deeper than society knows

wanton pendant
fierce pagoda
#

you know how terraria has end credits after moonlord, what if they had like a similar thing after Yharim

eager bluff
#

calamity mod dot png

wanton pendant
spring zodiac
wanton pendant
#

What.

eager bluff
#

no

fierce pagoda
spring zodiac
#

I mean cant furry just mean like animal and all things are animals unless they are ghosts or robots

eager bluff
#

you are confusing furries and scalies and also no

random mulch
#

also skin

spring zodiac
#

I have no clue what that means

fierce pagoda
#

pigs arent furries, no fur

random mulch
#

no fur, no scales, just dead meat cells stacked on top of eachother

eager bluff
spring zodiac
#

So in society there is Furries, Scalies, robots, and ghosts

#

and skin

fierce pagoda
wanton pendant
#

Where do you live to have those!? Narnia!?

young socket
eager bluff
dusk laurel
fierce pagoda
#

they do? i thought they were like skin with small hairs

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like humans

wanton pendant
#

They are hairy.

young socket
#

also farm pigs do have fur

dusk laurel
#

also pigs are still placental mammals so

wanton pendant
#

Did you think they were smooth and slippery?

random mulch
#

the whole terminology thing is a complete mess of venn diagrams

spring zodiac
#

farm pigs are the pink ones right

young socket
#

its quite short and hard to tell unless up close tho

wanton pendant
fierce pagoda
#

oh i see

eager bluff
fierce pagoda
#

i always thought they were just pink skinned

wanton pendant
#

It's like saying are farm chickens brown.

fierce pagoda
#

with small hairs

wanton pendant
#

They can be.

#

Not always.

spring zodiac
#

So then every calamity boss is one of these 5 things. Furry, Scales, Skin, Robot, or Ghost

eager bluff
fierce pagoda
#

well then, we also have humans which are really hairy

#

irl furries

wanton pendant
#

Well sorry I'm not the chicken expert, that's another guy.

random mulch
#

at some point with this terminology messes you loop all the way back to diogenes' plucked chicken

spring zodiac
#

What if Draedon isnt a worm but is a chicken

wanton pendant
#

You mean men?

spring zodiac
#

is there anything in the lore that could show Draedon is a chicken

young socket
#

draedon is just a minecraft chicken rng machine

fierce pagoda
#

rock

spring zodiac
eager bluff
#

the distinction between hair and fur is nothing there is no actual distinction they're the same thing

spring zodiac
#

robots are just electric rocks

wanton pendant
eager bluff
dusk laurel
mighty zenith
#

as a robot lover we do not claim brimmy

wanton pendant
spring zodiac
#

Robot=Metal=Rocks

fierce pagoda
#

Hair is when beautiful elegant intelligent humans have it, fur is when stinky animals have it

spring zodiac
#

basically

mighty zenith
#

the human body contains several different metals

#

therefore humans are robots (?)

fierce pagoda
#

Iron!!

#

man

spring zodiac
#

so sure

mighty zenith
#

metals are like over half of the periodic table

spring zodiac
#

organic robot

#

animals are also robots

wanton pendant
dusk laurel
#

antarctica is actually a robot because its solid ice

spring zodiac
eager bluff
# eager bluff no

refined rocks liquified into sheets or blocks (with various crystals too) powered by a directed, near unending bolt of lightning channeled through specific portions of metal

cloud ibex
wanton pendant
#

It's made of Helium and Oxygen, which are elements.

fierce pagoda
#

water is made of atoms, metal is also atoms

#

everything is made of atoms

wanton pendant
#

What else is an element? Metal.

fierce pagoda
#

which means everything is a robot

spring zodiac
wanton pendant
#

Neither is metal.

spring zodiac
#

But robots are alive

#

if they are sentient

#

which makes them robots

dusk laurel
#

i think im gonna sell my organs

fierce pagoda
#

bobots arent alive

eager bluff
mighty zenith
spring zodiac
fierce pagoda
#

oh no you dont get it

icy veldt
#

Providence convinces people to do what she wants. Cats convince people to do what they want. Therefore, Providence is a cat

eager bluff
#

lanthanides and actinides are technically metals too iirc

fierce pagoda
#

I just discriminate against Robots

young socket
fierce pagoda
#

piss

spring zodiac
dusk laurel
#

lanthanides and actinides

young socket
mighty zenith
#

technically also metals yea

fierce pagoda
#

urpis

eager bluff
#

so more accurately only about 25 elements arent metals

#

so ~80% of the periodic table is metals

spring zodiac
#

Ok then if rocks arent electric robots then what about this

Every calamity character falls into 6 types. Robots, Furry, Scale, Skin, Rock, and Ghost

#

is that everything

wanton pendant
#

Look I had to do physics not chemistry in school you can't blame me for not knowing that.

mighty zenith
#

periodic table is like

#

first grade in middle school

#

stuff

fierce pagoda
#

I'm Scalie

eager bluff
#

not even chemistry you learn this shit in like your 7th year of school

fierce pagoda
#

if u even care

mighty zenith
#

thats like the first thing you learn about chemistry on its own

spring zodiac
#

are there any reptiles with fur

wanton pendant
#

When is middle school?

eager bluff
#

cragbulon

icy veldt
mighty zenith
#

polska reakcja...

#

no more

#

i will exterminate pole land

eager bluff
spring zodiac
#

idk what to even call that

fierce pagoda
#

Tryb wariata

#

🔥

mighty zenith
wanton pendant
fierce pagoda
#

forsaken carapace

cloud ibex
spring zodiac
spring zodiac
eager bluff
mighty zenith
#

ah i misread the message

#

i thought it said what even is a crab shell

fierce pagoda
#

would dragons be mammals or birds, oh but they lay eggs right

spring zodiac
#

So we have 7 types. Skin, Chitin, Ghost, Robot, Rock, Furry, and Scales

fierce pagoda
#

or would Dragon be like its whole own thing

mighty zenith
#

i was the first year that skipped middle school in my country funnily enough

spring zodiac
#

that is the 7 types of calamity beings

wanton pendant
mighty zenith
#

they introduced it when i was in 6th grade

split mortar
eager bluff
spring zodiac
wanton pendant
mighty zenith
#

but yknow

#

fantasy creature

#

so they can just be whatever

dusk laurel
wanton pendant
#

They should be like ducks.

spring zodiac
eager bluff
#

technically it is 3 schools where im at because there are 2 wings of the building for year 1-7 and then an entire other building for the rest but the distinction is only for 2

fierce pagoda
#

true but i was thinking more what dragons are in calamity

mighty zenith
#

yharon is more bird than reptile for instance

spring zodiac
#

didnt some dinosaurs have fur? I think a furry dragon could def exist

wanton pendant
#

It's like, a soul thing or something.

eager bluff
wanton pendant
spring zodiac
mighty zenith
#

pretty sure dinosaurs didnt have fur

#

they had feathers

spring zodiac
#

so then dinosaurs only had feathers

fierce pagoda
#

fesers

mighty zenith
#

cause they're ancestors of reptiles and birds

spring zodiac
#

but they sometimes just looked like fur

mighty zenith
#

work in progress feathers

spring zodiac
#

So then if you think about it tho we all are distantly related to a Trex

wanton pendant
#

No.

mighty zenith
#

no

#

mammals existed at the same time as dinosaurs

spring zodiac
#

we are tho? they are basically our cousins cause they also came from teh same grandpa

#

the fish

wanton pendant
#

No amount of dynastic shenanigans will make that work.

spring zodiac
#

the fish who learned how to walk

fierce pagoda
#

"the fish who learned how to walk"🖋️ 🔥

dusk laurel
#

dinosaurs are reptiles tho...

mighty zenith
#

i mean.

#

current day reptiles and birds

spring zodiac
#

I dont care about science, I know in some way I am related to dinosaurs

mighty zenith
#

wait no why did i combine dinosaurs and prehistoric birds

#

im stupid

dusk laurel
#

dinosaurs are pretty far down the reptile family tree...

mighty zenith
#

i should blow up malaysia

long bloom
#

true

wanton pendant
#

It would be easier to find a direct descendent to Henry VIII, Julius Caesar and Mansa Musa than prove the genetic link between dinosaurs and humans.

fierce pagoda
#

link from zelda

spring zodiac
#

bro but we all came from the same multi celled dude a long time ago

wanton pendant
#

They did make a movie about it, however.

#

It's called Super Mario.

spring zodiac
#

so then we are distantly related to all animals

split mortar
wanton pendant
#

No I'm not joking.

mighty zenith
#

we strayed far from calamity here

wanton pendant
long bloom
long bloom
spring zodiac
mighty zenith
#

fish and not fish

#

there u go

spring zodiac
long bloom
#

wanton pendant
#

Devs have not explicitly confirmed any other species. Therefore they may or may not exist. My logic is infallible.

dusk laurel
#

life is divided between can i see it or no

spring zodiac
#

birds legit exist in terraria

mighty zenith
#

nothing exists until i look at it

dusk laurel
#

thats right garbo

spring zodiac
#

Does xeroc exist

long bloom
#

no

wanton pendant
#

Can't prove the birds are birds.

spring zodiac
#

what if Draedon is a worm

mighty zenith
#

i cant see him so no

spring zodiac
#

these are the biggest conspiracies in calamity

dusk laurel
#

yes i met him yesterday, but im blind now

wanton pendant
#

You forgot one.

spring zodiac
#

would Xeroc even have a physical body at this point

wanton pendant
#

Yeah.

#

Why wouldn't he.

long bloom
#

probably

spring zodiac
mighty zenith
#

hes just a guy

wanton pendant
#

It's not like he died of old age and became a ghost or anything.

mighty zenith
#

just a dude

spring zodiac
#

Guys im starting to think calamity is pretty weak

#

I think Goku would beat all of calamity

cloud ibex
#

yes goku beats everything

#

we know

#

next question

split mortar
#

Nothing in calamity gets past like planet level goku can punch the universe

dusk laurel
#

powerscalers when anything

spring zodiac
fierce pagoda
#

goku can die of heart virus

spring zodiac
#

doesnt astrum deus create stars

fierce pagoda
#

send the disease god at him

wanton pendant
#

Opposite.

#

It eats them.

split mortar
dusk laurel
#

astrum deus eats stars (small objects) in calamity

wanton pendant
#

Invoked Stargod, however...

fierce pagoda
#

the starrot is the astral infection right

spring zodiac
wanton pendant
#

One shudders to imagine what thoughts lie in the twisted mind of that being.

split mortar
#

We have no proof a nuclear fusion irl star thing exists in calamity

dusk laurel
#

invoked stargod is MY ancient enemy, no do not ask if im a moth or not

spring zodiac
#

but i guess thats not impressive if theyre small

fierce pagoda
#

if like fallen stars are allowed to grow big enough, they start to rot into astra inection

#

is that righ

wanton pendant
#

Yeah.

split mortar
#

How would it create or eat stars when its the size of like
A very long car

fierce pagoda
#

wonder whats in mana that makes stars do that

wanton pendant
#

The magic probably.

fierce pagoda
#

mana sickness

spring zodiac
#

so then what im hearing is Yamcha beats all of calamity

split mortar
#

Mana is like
Particle so
Weird particle stuff idk

fierce pagoda
#

Yamcha dies to angry dandelion

wanton pendant
#

Do you think if Calamitas died her body would turn into an Astral Infection?
Or generally any really strong wizard

split mortar
dusk laurel
#

yes, calamity isnt a story about glupshito balldragonversal people

spring zodiac
mighty zenith
wanton pendant
split mortar
#

It takes days to weeks for one of the strongest characters (supreme calamitas) to destroy some country sized place (ilmeris)

spring zodiac
fierce pagoda
#

skinny

mighty zenith
#

hairless cats are still cats

#

and cats are the furry animal

split mortar
spring zodiac
wanton pendant
#

Who?

spring zodiac
#

i understand it now

dusk laurel
#

rot discussion

split mortar
#

Idk who that is but probably

spring zodiac
split mortar
#

Ofcourse the guy is

mighty zenith
#

random 💔

#

not my goat catching strays

fierce pagoda
#

yajirobe called random in 2025🥀

spring zodiac
#

he is def random, he isnt really important other than in DB and saiyan saga

mighty zenith
#

everyone would be dead if not for him

#

thats not random

fierce pagoda
#

random is like, Nam

mighty zenith
#

he helps deliver senzu beans even later on, he's even relevant in dbs

spring zodiac
#

By that metric basically every named character in DB is important

mighty zenith
#

side characters can be important

#

its not just goku and vegeta

spring zodiac
#

He is important but is def still a random guy

#

hes a super side character

#

not even just a side character like bulma or tien

mighty zenith
#

anyway yes yajirobe solos calamity because calamity doesn't need ridiculous scaling to work as a story

split mortar
#

Infact ridiculous scaling would break the story

spring zodiac
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Well prob not tbh, if someone in calamity can destroy a planet theyd be able to beat him

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like Xeroc or something

mighty zenith
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they cannot

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or at least not easily

spring zodiac
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but yeah Yajirobe is at least as strong as DB roshi who blew up the moon

long bloom
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xeroc cannot destroy a planet

wanton pendant
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I mean, Xeroc can probably throw the sun at Terraria.

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Or just punch it for a few centuries.

split mortar
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The sun is moon sized so i doubt even if xeroc could throw the sun into the planet somehow that the planet will explode

mighty zenith
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the difference is that dragon ball gets away with using ridiculous feats of strength because everything can be wished back

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calamity doesnt have that

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and doesnt even leave one planet