lore-discussion

[balmy glacier]

tetrahedron is probably playing tricks with us

[split mortar]

embers

[pulsar ocean]

What

[long bloom]

most likely

[split mortar]

embers has xeroc be seperate to the sun

[long bloom]

i will inquire about this on the morrow

[cloud ibex]

no this is a fanmade xeroc design for an addon that died long ago with way different lore

[long bloom]

pokemon lookin ass

[cloud ibex]

the reason they look like prov here is that prov was actually supposed to be the same species as xeroc but she went mad for some reason and lost her arms or whatever? something like that

[light moth]

Why did they do it btw?
Is it because of Lucille’s conflict with Fabsol or they just needed to create something completely new?

[long bloom]

lucille*

[split mortar]

lucille

[wanton pendant]

I have no clue who that is.

[balmy glacier]

it’s like providence and xeroc were a family (based on one forgotten mod that implemented goozma; also had a lore bit explaining that both of them were som kind of overseers)

[light moth]

Ah, wait
Lucille is the creator of Infernum and Wotg?

[wanton pendant]

Yes.

[long bloom]

yeag

[split mortar]

lucille made wotg and infernum

[split mortar]

yea

[wanton pendant]

I know who Lucille is!

[light moth]

Me being dumbass for the 3737736446646446th time:

[long bloom]

is it just me or is your pfp more zoomed in than before

[wanton pendant]

It's just you.

[light moth]

Well, anyway

[cloud ibex]

i think in part because the devs/fab (can't remember which) wasn't too fond of other people adding content they already had planned, in part simply because lucille and the gang wanted to do something unique

[long bloom]

i think they're currently remaking wotg to remove the calamity dependency

[cloud ibex]

they are

[split mortar]

yeah

[balmy glacier]

wotg 2

[split mortar]

wotg 2

[long bloom]

wotg 2

[balmy glacier]

they are also removing mars

[long bloom]

peak

[balmy glacier]

for being an exo mech

[light moth]

So Permafrost, Draedon and CV are not going to be the part of the quest, right?

[long bloom]

correct

[split mortar]

havent played wotg and avoided spoilers so far somehow

[light moth]

I wish I had this power for Hazbin/Silksong

[long bloom]

||moonlord|| dies

(fake poiler you can click it)

[split mortar]

i have mostly done it for silksong

aswell

did it for deltarune till i could play 3 and 4

[light moth]

HOW

[pulsar ocean]

Why are they trying to be hunt of the old god

[split mortar]

i just can idk

[long bloom]

idk anything about hotdog what does this mean

[pulsar ocean]

You can play it without calamity

[long bloom]

oh shit fr

[pulsar ocean]

Yuh

[light moth]

Fabsol for some reason critiqued the whole of Infernum
Still dont understand why

[split mortar]

because fabsol

[light moth]

Like, is he that ego centered?

[split mortar]

fabsol did stop people from touching the bosses most of the time

so maybe

[mighty zenith]

because it tries to do something interesting with bosses

he didnt exactly like ppl changing his work

[light moth]

Ah yeas
How could I forget that he literally made all changes and tested them by himself

[wanton pendant]

Do you think he's a fan of irony?

[wanton pendant]

Don't be silly.
He didn't test them.

[mighty zenith]

he did test them

but yknow

playtesting your own game

isnt exactly

helpful

[light moth]

He never saw his Perforator and Infernum’s one ig

[mighty zenith]

post-shift 2 moment

[long bloom]

:uncanny:

[balmy glacier]

i believe he mainly critiqued its over the top vfx or how people already pointed out he despised people changing his work in some way

[split mortar]

oh i get that

[light moth]

I may get why he critiqued the thing where Dog literally chases you constantly
But the rest, like, cmon

[fierce pagoda]

my least favorite part of any bossfight ever is when they have a phase where they are invincible

[long bloom]

true

[split mortar]

idm when bosses are invincible at times long as those are fun
so like mutants desp phase

not scal bullet hells

[light moth]

Even desperation phases?

[split mortar]

go my random, bullet hells

[fierce pagoda]

are they invincible in desperation phases?

i thought those two werent mutually exclusive

[split mortar]

yeah but die instantly soon as the phase ends

basically just
dodge this one last barrage of attacks to win

[light moth]

I completed og Calamity 4-5 times
I still havent figured out how to dodge her bullet hells properly

[fierce pagoda]

oh eh well that edges on me disliking it then, cause at least its right at the end

[long bloom]

by moving i think

[fierce pagoda]

you've already beaten the boss youjust need to wait it out now

[split mortar]

they are literally randomly spawned projectiles theres not much of a set pattern

[pulsar ocean]

Oh I don't get that

[fierce pagoda]

but like, imo my ideal boss is a boss where i can damage it 100% of the time until its dead

[light moth]

Yeahs

[fierce pagoda]

for Scal i just use the exo chair

it makes dodging her a cakewalk

[split mortar]

fabsol is notorious for just taking vanilla and adding a little to differentiate em
crabulon is mourning wood but spores as an example

[pulsar ocean]

oooh

[split mortar]

or avallon

[long bloom]

dragonfolly is literally just mothron

[split mortar]

half of calamity being an avvalon reference

[cloud ibex]

the age old yharon-fishron comparison

[light moth]

Somehow even Providence is not fully original

[pulsar ocean]

Who even plays basecal in the big 25

[long bloom]

unique ai gif

[split mortar]

yeah ice queen movement

[light moth]

Like, partly it is ice queen

[cloud ibex]

old duke too but at the very least OD doesn't like

[light moth]

Yah

[cloud ibex]

pretend to not be fishron 2

[fierce pagoda]

dragon folly is betsy

[cloud ibex]

no folly is a mothron

[split mortar]

folly is m,othron

[fierce pagoda]

oh its mothron

i thought it was betsy

[split mortar]

post ml boss is a strong event enemy from hardmode

[light moth]

Well, I will be honest
In comparison to Infernum
Og OD is cool

[split mortar]

good job fabsol

[light moth]

I guess everyone is gonna kill me now

[light moth]

Well
Some of Yharon’s attacks are a bit like Betsy’s

[dusk laurel]

infernum is definitely better designed than basecal but its also becoming more dated as calamity modernizes

[light moth]

I hope I will manage to complete Infernum before Sso releases

[split mortar]

sso is likely after 1.4.5 drops

[woeful hatch]

Even if you started right now, with no QOL mods, and took your time, you could complete it before SSO release

[light moth]

But tml will not be updated to 1.4.5 for a long time, right?

[split mortar]

afaik tmod is ready to update quickly

[woeful hatch]

I believe the Tmod devs are already preparing for it so it may just be a few weeks

[split mortar]

still months away

[light moth]

I only turned on AlchNpc lite
For Ankh Shield

[woeful hatch]

You know calamity adds recipes for every component of ankh shield

Right?

[light moth]

🥶

Ahhhhhhhhhhhh

[woeful hatch]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Vanilla_item_recipes

[light moth]

Welll
Now I do

Thanks to you)

Eheh

[long bloom]

what ai is aureus based on

[split mortar]

also zerg exists which would make getting the items easy

[split mortar]

@mighty zenith

[woeful hatch]

I believe astrageldon, which I believe is modified king slime?

[long bloom]

oh right

[split mortar]

aureus replaced geldon

[long bloom]

yeah the ai was probably replaced

current kinda reminds me of everscream

[light moth]

And angler shop probs

That’s it

[cloud ibex]

mourning wood

[mighty zenith]

iirc its very modified mourning wood

slash everscream

[dusk laurel]

yeah

[long bloom]

so the same as crabulon

[dusk laurel]

since its also just very similar to crabulon

[long bloom]

truly magnificent

[split mortar]

Mech crabulon real

[dusk laurel]

yeah crabulon might be the most fabsol boss of all time

[long bloom]

what about uhh brimmy and signus
wraith, right?

[mighty zenith]

i think so

[dusk laurel]

literally everything about it except the boss sprite and music is taken from vanila assets

[cloud ibex]

signus has the corite dash

[mighty zenith]

tbh signus just feels like default enemy ai the boss

[long bloom]

fighter ai yharim but flying

[light moth]

Wait
Cryogen is based on who?

[long bloom]

deadly sphere i think

[split mortar]

A fucking normal enemy

[mighty zenith]

truly a 2016 mod

[dusk laurel]

endless calamity

[mighty zenith]

absolute calamity...

[dusk laurel]

istg melon dont say it

dont even think about it

[split mortar]

I was so close to sending it

[dusk laurel]

😭

[light moth]

Imagine if Fabsol left before dec 2022…..

[long bloom]

imagine if fabsol never made calamity

the good ending

[mighty zenith]

tremor sweep

[dusk laurel]

[light moth]

🫠

[fierce pagoda]

where is goodcorn

[stark basalt]

Done should've made calamity 😢

[dusk laurel]

burning in hell

[fierce pagoda]

oh...

[stark basalt]

Bye bye goodcorn

[light moth]

Maybe Lucille will give someone an Infernum source code or anything else that could help with supporting this mod after Sso?

[long bloom]

it's a lost cause bruh

[split mortar]

The more calamity updates the more effort upkeeping infernum would be

[dusk laurel]

it would require an unreasonable amount of work since most bosses will get reworked and redesigned with the rest getting major changes

basically, they would have to remake the entire mod

[long bloom]

mod of theseus

[fierce pagoda]

infernum is... lost media!?

[light moth]

Unfortunately

[dusk laurel]

no

[light moth]

Definitely will be

[long bloom]

you'll still be able to play it on older tmod versions

[light moth]

But wait
Is there any way for depatching?

[long bloom]

it'll just be depreciated

[dusk laurel]

you still have plenty of time before infernum has half of the bosses not get any changes because calamity reworked them

[wanton pendant]

Are you entirely sure you know what the term Lost Media means?

[fierce pagoda]

i was making a joker please dont hurt me

[hollow pivot]

by the sounds of things there will be a “legacy” version of calamity so you can play Infernum on 1.4.4-1.4.5

[long bloom]

death penalty

[wanton pendant]

Not you.

[split mortar]

You can get any version of calamity from the github iirc

[light moth]

https://tenor.com/view/babe-joker-the-dark-knight-dark-knight-heath-ledger-gif-5349177

[fierce pagoda]

why so serious amidias

[dusk laurel]

[cloud ibex]

yes it's called switching your tmod beta to 1.4.4

[light moth]

Okay, good

[stark basalt]

Guthib.com

[fierce pagoda]

Guts

[split mortar]

The rp?

[mighty zenith]

[split mortar]

Do your natashas

[mighty zenith]

dies

[real silo]

since it's halloween

Posting this Evil Creachure

[split mortar]

Ravager!

[late veldt]

I forgot we can't react here

but 🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥🔥

[untold oracle]

Cant wait for this to become canon ravager

[real silo]

empty version

you can tell I got lazy

[snow mountain]

are you sure this goes in lore discussion

[real silo]

nope

[split mortar]

I have seen art posted here by other people before

And not like lore chat is the most active or ontopic place of all time

[untold oracle]

Yes

[snow mountain]

make it relevant then

shrimple

observe

[split mortar]

Not really

[real silo]

ok well

I didn't draw the legs ata ll

bro's just a floating torso

[split mortar]

You wouldnt really see em on the full thing so no point drawing em

[real silo]

yea that's what I meant by got lazy

I also procrastinated on cama shoes until the last minute

because I thought the text wouldcover it up

it ended up covering it anyways 💔

[pulsar ocean]

Sukuna victim

[snow mountain]

what is a suckma

[limpid saddle]

jujutsu kaisen

[snow mountain]

fishing failed, im gonna starve

ok so in cal lore the sun is primordial light right

[wanton pendant]

Correct.

[snow mountain]

what does it orbit around

[wanton pendant]

Terraria.

[snow mountain]

that doesn't make sense

[wanton pendant]

Calamity is not heliocentric.

[snow mountain]

ok but in terms of like the position of the sun ingame

[wanton pendant]

It's a satellite of Terraria.

Like the moon.

[snow mountain]

it would only make sense if the game took place on the equator

wait

since mars is canon doesn't that mean that

it too orbits terraria

[wanton pendant]

We can't prove that.

It might.

[snow mountain]

so like half the world doesn't get sunlight??

[wanton pendant]

Or maybe both orbit something else.

[snow mountain]

unless terraria is a disc

[snow mountain]

wait

nah this doesn't make sense

i mean it does but

lemme think

[stoic gulch]

Isn’t this technically off topic as well since this has basically nothing to do with lore

[snow mountain]

it does if you knew the theory

[snow mountain]

so does the world rotate or have tilt

[wanton pendant]

Unknown.

[warm gull]

what my 1 year old child asks me in the middle of me teaching them about the daylight cycle

[wanton pendant]

The sun is still orbiting the planet so it still gets lit up.

[snow mountain]

im thinking too fast for logic one moment

[cosmic minnow]

Doesn’t a theory imply that it isn’t canon

Cuz yk

Not proven

[snow mountain]

its relevant to the lore nonetheless since thats its baseline

[cosmic minnow]

well then ravager is too

[snow mountain]

yeah but it doesn't really concern the lore outside of like

whatever this is a discussion channel nonetheless

[cosmic minnow]

One could discuss the poster

[snow mountain]

it doesn't posit anything about the lore though?

waste of a discussion im yapping about geocentrism

[cosmic minnow]

Yea, like half the convos here aren’t about lore

[real silo]

Yea I figured smth like this would happen if I posted it that's why I haven't until mow (someone told me to

[warm gull]

quite ironic thing to say really

[snow mountain]

its relevant

[cosmic minnow]

How

[spring helm]

Okay so what’s the issue with geocentricism

[warm gull]

no no I meant you calling something a "waste of a discussion"

[snow mountain]

im thinking

[spring helm]

The thinker

[cosmic minnow]

Bros not the thinker

[real silo]

geo centrism

hatabath geo

[split mortar]

^
The cool art

[snow mountain]

so terraria doesn't have seasons unless it infact is on an axial tilt

[warm gull]

you're looking for caves in puddles brovalone

[snow mountain]

im going mad

[spring helm]

Why can’t this be true

[cosmic minnow]

I think gang

That terraria is a video game

It doesn’t abide to the rules of physics

[icy veldt]

The sun probably has an elliptical orbit

[cosmic minnow]

Neither does it have to be logical

[snow mountain]

i don't care i need to not suspend my disbelief

[icy veldt]

Wait no, that wouldn't work in this case

[warm gull]

💔

[icy veldt]

Perihelion precession, maybe?

[spare pier]

Why not?

[wanton pendant]

As far as I know, Seasons are never even mentioned in Calamity.
So them not existing isn't out of the question.

[warm gull]

you need to suspend your train of thought

[spare pier]

Pretty sure that the distance would matter a lot in this case

[cosmic minnow]

Let it crash

Derail even

[icy veldt]

Because in a geocentric model, the sun's orbiting would be the source of the day/night cycle, so its eccentricity wouldn't affect seasonal variations

[snow mountain]

the dwemer know the answer to this

terraria overhaul isn't canon 💔

[spare pier]

Aren't we discussing a heliocentric model?

Wait

I'm a fucking dumbass

[split mortar]

Yeah calamity orbiting sun

[spare pier]

https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/466943505663655937/1083946998614470748/1678391318329531.gif

[pulsar ocean]

@grok is this true

[split mortar]

Other way round

[icy veldt]

Correct!

[spare pier]

Words are hard

[icy veldt]

Not for me 😎

[spare pier]

Either way not like it's impossible for an axial tilt to exist

[warm gull]

don't invoke the dwemer they're beings of logic and reason. you would never be allowed to walk among them

[spare pier]

So

[spare pier]

You need them? Yeah they happen

Shrimple

[snow mountain]

im on fuckin life support trying to think about this shit

[split mortar]

Incattus cant comprehend the sun going to the other side of the planet due to orbit

[snow mountain]

no i can comprehend that its just

wait so how many moons does terraria have

[icy veldt]

The lions would win if they attack at night type shit

[real silo]

why would there be more than one

[snow mountain]

five..?

[spare pier]

I actually asked Ozz a while back whether or not Terraria could have like, literally all the moons that you can see ingame at the same time

[split mortar]

Sun and moon
Why more?

[spare pier]

But then he said "Nope that'd be fucked up"

[snow mountain]

why is this even a thing im passing away

im like noxus fisher-king theory fr

[fierce pagoda]

you take the sun and you take the moon!

[snow mountain]

its clearly a nirn type of deal

[spare pier]

I was very sad that Terraria can't be like the One Piece world with like

[snow mountain]

🥀

[spare pier]

7 fucking moons

Alas, it was not meant to be

[spring helm]

what

[snow mountain]

its nirn if it was slightly more comprehensible

[spring helm]

that's messed up

[real silo]

zoz hates fun smh

give me 7 moons or I retire

[snow mountain]

obviously the different moon sprite are kinda like terraria cus procedurally generated and i like that

[spare pier]

Playing the cup game with the moons trying to find Moon Lord

[snow mountain]

tbf why would there be more

theres only one moon lord

[spring helm]

it's cool that's why

[wanton pendant]

Finally, I've gathered all seven Moon Lords.

[snow mountain]

hes not a lord of the moons

[spare pier]

NOOOO, YOU'RE SUPPOSED TO OBEY ME

[snow mountain]

mars might be a moon

[spare pier]

The seven human Moons:

Anyways yeah there's only one moon

[snow mountain]

im under the assumption that the sun is a recent thing and thus

thats why it follows a geocentric model

[pulsar ocean]

who would win 1 xeroc or 100 auric gorillas

[snow mountain]

and thus mars is just there

as a moon of

shitland or whatever your world is called

[split mortar]

The sun is old enough the world soul made a domain from its light

[snow mountain]

world soul is the worst thing to happen to this lore

[split mortar]

World is called terraria, the continent is the world name

[wanton pendant]

World is called Terraria, the continent is what you name the world.

[fierce pagoda]

woah

[snow mountain]

shitland continent

[wanton pendant]

Obliterating you.

[pulsar ocean]

why are you copying melon gun

[spare pier]

Anyways I'm not gonna answer anything else about the cosmology have fun

[snow mountain]

anyway as i was saying if the sun is recent mars is a satellite of terraria

[pulsar ocean]

would xeroc prefer coke or pepsi

[fierce pagoda]

Spacetime domain

[snow mountain]

but if it isn't the sun is orbited by mars

[spring helm]

xeroc prefers rc cola

[pulsar ocean]

based

[fierce pagoda]

electromagnetism domain

strong force domain

[snow mountain]

where the fuck is zen's sky when we need it most

[woeful hatch]

Wdym you can't comprehend The Aurbis being the wheel (or the tower when viewed on its side) with the eight spokes being the adra and the eight towers (different thing) stabilizing reality

[spare pier]

Actually I am gonna say something I realized a while back I thought was really cool

[snow mountain]

im gonna crash out its somehow more easy to wrap my brain around this than fucking cal lore

[woeful hatch]

Go on and achieve CHIM if you truly understand it

[fierce pagoda]

CHIMp

[snow mountain]

im on that path

[spare pier]

The fact that stars are so much smaller and thus much closer in proximity in Calamity means that the night sky is very often changing around and getting new patterns

[woeful hatch]

I'm gonna wait for you to zero sum instead

[spare pier]

You could realistically live to see two entirely different configurations of stars in the sky

[snow mountain]

its xenoblade its literally mana balls uh

[warm gull]

by azura these outlander n'wahs can't even comprehend the fucking daylight cycle

[snow mountain]

im on that dwemer hillfort grindset

[spare pier]

I think

[woeful hatch]

They're s'wits clearly

[warm gull]

the dwemer had no part in your education

[spare pier]

We never specified how long a star's life cycle is because there's no need to

[fierce pagoda]

so like do stars in calamity still undergo fusion in its core

[spring helm]

5

[snow mountain]

gnostic cosmology is easier to understand i think i might pass away

[fierce pagoda]

supermassive stars in calamity

[woeful hatch]

No they're made of mana i don't think they have the mass or energy to undergo nuclear fusion

[fierce pagoda]

do black holes and stuff exist in calverse

[fierce pagoda]

oh i see

[spare pier]

On my end, I personally want to not mention black holes like, at all

[warm gull]

sun go in a circle around planet. moon go in a circle around planet. planet no move.

[fierce pagoda]

mass and energy my beloved💕

[spare pier]

Because I think it's interesting to leave some stuff unspecified so people can have their own answers

[fierce pagoda]

but if like gravity is real incalamity

then black holes should too

urhgh

[woeful hatch]

The fallen stars you see falling? They're the actual stars of calamity cosmology

With bigger ones that may eventually rot and become astral infection

[spare pier]

Like, what would be a black hole in Calamity

[snow mountain]

the lore doesn't have much unspecified content tbf

me

[fierce pagoda]

actually we dont even know the true nature of black holes IRL so its okay if they arent explaiend in cal either

[snow mountain]

why would cal need blackholes

[fierce pagoda]

and that goes for a lot of cosmology stuff in generel, we dont know how the universe works properly in irl either

[snow mountain]

thats the real question here

[woeful hatch]

Well not necessarily assuming there was a more equal distribution of matter or less matter overall, there may have never been enough concentrated matter to form black holes

[split mortar]

What blackholes are in calamity is up to YOU

[wanton pendant]

What else would Terraria orbit?

[spare pier]

😭

[snow mountain]

you've got a true on that tbh

[gritty kraken]

Evil primordial light

[snow mountain]

i think terraria is in fact on the back of an infinite procession of turtles

[woeful hatch]

°
| 🫵

[spare pier]

Astrageldon Slime who lives at the center of the universe, clearly

[fierce pagoda]

lets say you had gravity powers tho, then you could force matter to collect ina single point until it collapsed tho

[spare pier]

[split mortar]

The cal lore version of loss

[snow mountain]

anyway noxus is a fisher king hooked up to a DoG IV drip

[fierce pagoda]

Kill me if i say "tho" one more time

[split mortar]

Blackholes are YOU

[dusk laurel]

rebeccor you will write 10 million more lines of catalyst lore

[woeful hatch]

I mean that depends on how much control over gravity you have

I can compress gases to a certain point but I can't ignite a diesel mixture

[real silo]

mana well that sucks in manas

greedy mana

[warm gull]

BLTraxia

[real silo]

untruth

[snow mountain]

its insane i came up with this theory and i can't remember it

[fierce pagoda]

thats true, but hypothetically if you had super strong control over gravity in calverse, you should be able to manually produce black holes then right?

[wanton pendant]

Or of time, or space...

[fierce pagoda]

yeahyeah

spacetime

[warm gull]

call this channel black knife cuz its dissonant as fuck

[woeful hatch]

If you had super strong gravity control in any universe, creating black holes would be one of the most basic applications of it

You could change time, space, anything

[spare pier]

By all means every power to a high enough degree can create a black hole

[fierce pagoda]

so blackholes can hypothetically exist in calverse?

[spare pier]

You'd just need to output enough energy for it to collapse into one

[fierce pagoda]

like the laws of physics in calverse allow black holes to exist

right?

[woeful hatch]

I guess?

[fierce pagoda]

ok that was what i was wondering thank you

[prime mauve]

I feel like saying they cannot exist would cause a lot more problems

[snow mountain]

this explains the gist of it if it was good

[prime mauve]

because now we're changing fundamental forces

[spring helm]

sounds about right

[woeful hatch]

I mean calamity already has many fundamental forces which are fucked up already but we don't talk about them

[fierce pagoda]

so calverse fundemental forces are the same as our irl fundemental forces then?

calverse has strong, weak, electromagnetic and gravity?

[woeful hatch]

Well there's magic which presumably fucks shit up

[fierce pagoda]

Uravity

[warm gull]

uhhh uhhh mana

[spare pier]

Creating an entire fucking branch of physics is a bit hard

[fierce pagoda]

yeah thats tru

[warm gull]

mana is the bullshittium theory answerer

[deft vessel]

Just lock in duh

[woeful hatch]

Let us lorers at it and we'll make one in a few weeks trust me

[prime mauve]

reminds me of the idea once of an inverse state of matter material that would cause a ton of issues with physics

[fierce pagoda]

Its just interesting to ask about I suppose!

[spare pier]

Unless Calamity directly contradicts something, it's the same as irl

[woeful hatch]

If Tolkien can create 2 and 2 halves fictional languages we can create a branch of fictional physics trust

[spare pier]

I was really high that day

[prime mauve]

Last I checked I'm not Tolkien

[spare pier]

Not literally

[woeful hatch]

Check again

[prime mauve]

still not

[woeful hatch]

Darn.

[deft vessel]

One more time

[hoary cape]

Doze is Tolkien

[snow mountain]

calamity lore would be good if it was wuxia

[prime mauve]

no I'm not

[fierce pagoda]

dark matter and dark energy in calamity uh oh...

probably not that important for them to be real

[hoary cape]

That's what someone who is Tolkien would say smh

[spring helm]

kinda hard to define what dark energy and matter are for calamity when we dnt even know what it is irl

[vocal kestrel]

I remember doing that when I used to be a frequent here

[fierce pagoda]

dark matter and dark energy is uhh uhm Mana

[hoary cape]

Light energy and light matter

[split mortar]

What is meld

[hoary cape]

Alien material

[woeful hatch]

Dark matter sheathe exists

[fierce pagoda]

fabric of spacetime

[spring helm]

geld

[deft vessel]

You 🫵 simply go figure what they are so you can add them to Cal lore duh 🙄

[spring helm]

fuck

[deft vessel]

Popcorn, get on it

[fierce pagoda]

maybe its just the terrarian going fancy with naming

not actually indication that dark matter is real

[woeful hatch]

No, it's settled, dark matter is just dark matter sheathes naturally generating and their mass and energy accelerates the expansion of the universe

[wanton pendant]

Like saying an item named the 'Universe Splitter' can actually split the universe.

[spare pier]

Draedon named his shit after greek Gods, doesn't mean greece was real in Calamity

[dusk laurel]

plenty of names are just bullshit and we dont know if theyre real or not

[woeful hatch]

This is canon now

[fierce pagoda]

...it cant!?!?

[snow mountain]

noxus got all his bones broken and is infact that guy from spongebob

[prime mauve]

Noxus more like

aaa

[snow mountain]

hes literally a fisher king

it makes so much sense

fraudulent being

can't even break out of ceaseless and simply uses his feeding tube to literally puncture the tarp instead

submersible fisher-king

call that shit the oceangate titan submarine

[warm gull]

bro why are you using calamity to be like

"look. I know stuff about this animal"

[snow mountain]

what are you talking about i genuinely have no idea

[split mortar]

Isnt fisher king a fuckibg
Spngebib character

[snow mountain]

im talking about the mythological motif similar to my bird-brained theory lmao

[split mortar]

Oh ok

[snow mountain]

it makes the most sense

in terms of like an easily-conveyable motif

yknow

its arthurian and like surface-level at that

[warm gull]

insanity

utter insanity

[vocal kestrel]

incattus is the best person in this thread 🙏 I swear

[snow mountain]

😔 i aspire to be the worst how could you

[warm gull]

don't enable her to continue being a cartoon character bro🥀

positive feedback

baby steps

[snow mountain]

im not a caricature i swear its just that most of my brain is taken up by like folklore

[split mortar]

Remove the folk, this is lore channel

[spring helm]

dark matter is actually microplastics

[spare pier]

Oh my God

Folklore is

Folk lore

I just noticed that

[spring helm]

yes meb

[dusk laurel]

.

rebecca

[split mortar]

My fucking god you are dumb

[spare pier]

I AM NOT A NATIVE ENGLISH SPEAKER

[spring helm]

you ruined it melon

[warm gull]

how it feels to understand that words have roots and are highly modular

[dusk laurel]

[warm gull]

if anything I feel like that should have made it more noticeable

[split mortar]

@pliant ruin is rebecca dumb

[spare pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/704694434964439071/1284577245796634675/cat_gets_splash_stupid_idot.gif

[dusk laurel]

say yes

[cloud ibex]

life or bath for dry rebecca

[warm gull]

this has already been decided

[snow mountain]

oh hey ive hit 2000 hours on aseprite + 3000 hours on the non-steam version adds up to 5000

[warm gull]

11 dolla bill

[cosmic zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/hello-kitty-kitty-anybody-in-there-hit-the-nail-on-kitty's-head-gif-10360399528476563530

[real silo]

wtf why do you have the same pfp as throudon

impostor

[cosmic zenith]

I had this idea before Throudon changed pfps

He's the impostor smh....

[dusk laurel]

impsoster

[real silo]

stimposter

[split mortar]

Cool art

[pliant ruin]

no but fr i was like wtf. throudon caldev

[wheat walrus]

me neither but i also noticed the folklore thing,,,

dumbecca

[agile matrix]

remind me: amidias is the king/former king of where

[split mortar]

Ilmeris

[agile matrix]

which is where

or formerly was where

[split mortar]

Underground desert

[agile matrix]

i consistantly confuse illmeris with azafure so thats why i asked

(both are cities destroyed)

[split mortar]

Underground desert used to be mostly filled with water

[split mortar]

Ilmeris is an entire nation not just a city iirc

Is nebbie regretful

[wanton pendant]

Both were states, but Ilmeris was an entire kingdom, while Azafure was a 'mere' city state.

[limpid saddle]

hi chat im back from gallivanting around

I saw a Levi & Marina cosplayer duo (like from Funger 2) & they were awesome as hell

i wish i got photos

Anyway any spooky scary lore reveals for halloween?

[split mortar]

Dont think so sadly

[split mortar]

@limpid saddle cool art someone posted tho

[limpid saddle]

well i saw that

[split mortar]

O ok

[feral skiff]

my mind has dissolved a long time ago from fighting ravager 33392 times for the armor

i have the armor, but my sanity was ravaged

was it worth it?

[ruby heart]

its his sigil, not really a body part specifically but its also related to him

or do you think xeroc just has like a bat signal lantern he points to the sky to make it?

actual xeroc likely wont be that big

[wanton pendant]

If you had that power, wouldn't you make your own Bat signal?

[ruby heart]

he is just aura farming by showing his massive god sigil in the boss rush

[pulsar ocean]

does brimstone magic make you grow horns

[split mortar]

No

Horns are sometimes just there for azafurians

[pulsar ocean]

fun

[wanton pendant]

Thus, horns make you grow Brimstone magic, obviously.

[fierce pagoda]

is primordial light the same as regular light

or is primordial light only the light that comes from the sun

[split mortar]

Sunlight only

[hasty valley]

Apparently an ascended xeroc concept art was scrapped and another one is being worked on

Not sure if it was already finished and put on patreon?

[wanton pendant]

Hell if I know.

[hasty valley]

Though iirc

He is supposed to have hair in his ascended form

[fierce pagoda]

okay sweet

so photons are not primordial light strictly

there's something special about prim light

primelight

[fierce pagoda]

I remember that something about the blood moon warps the primordial light causing weird stuff to happen

[split mortar]

iirc bloodnautilus feed off the fucked up evil bloodlight or something of the sort

[fierce pagoda]

can we share images here?

I wanted to zhare a blood moon related imgae

wha the hell am i saying of course images are allowed

see thats how they work irl

do they work the same in calamity

[dusk laurel]

uh

idk

[fierce pagoda]

probably not?

[split mortar]

Two can happen in a row so i dont think so

[fierce pagoda]

wow irl blood moons are awesome lowkey

[tropic oak]

i HATE

that theyre BALD

PRE ASC

ME NO LIKEY !!!!!!!!!!!!

[dusk laurel]

i miss pre ascension hair

[split mortar]

And if blood tears are canon
An infinite amount

[fierce pagoda]

is the cosmolight canon

[dusk laurel]

uh

[fierce pagoda]

do you think the cosmolight speeds up time or speeds up just the planets rotation

[split mortar]

What the terrarian uses is up to you

[dusk laurel]

@spare pier i forgot is it canon or not, the new cosmilight and bakidon

[tropic oak]

seeing as im the real xeroc i declare that xeroc has hair

[spring helm]

Impsustor

[tropic oak]

nuh uh

[fierce pagoda]

impustule

sorry

[split mortar]

What devs say is or isnt canon when its in game cannot out rule that the terrarian is in the game and up to you thus your interpretation matters more

[fierce pagoda]

ok but so uhm no way

pumpking moons and frost moons?

that stuffs over now its just canon

[spare pier]

Cosmolight is Canon, you're just messing with your own perception of time

[split mortar]

So its hard drugs got it

[spare pier]

Bakidon I have not thought of an explanation for it

Yet

[dusk laurel]

👍

[spare pier]

I might just go with "slows down your own perception of time"

Wait no

Just

[fierce pagoda]

woah so cosmolight, if you slow down your perception of time, but still move at the same speed

doesnt that mean your super duper fast

[split mortar]

If it slows perception how do other enemies and you move at same speed

[spare pier]

Ok so

[fierce pagoda]

yeha that too

[spare pier]

Limbus Company

[split mortar]

Fucksake

[spare pier]

There's an ability where Dante makes a time bubble around them

[split mortar]

Throwing sand at you

[spare pier]

That's probably the best explanation?

You just

[dusk laurel]

based

[split mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/taylor-hit-sand-gif-10681998

[spare pier]

Make a time bubble around you

[split mortar]

Time manipulation exists in cal

[fierce pagoda]

big time bubble

if everything is affected

[split mortar]

The aerie has been explained

[spare pier]

So basically

Imagine that when you activate Bakidon

Everything is actually running at super duper speed

[fierce pagoda]

https://tenor.com/view/made-in-heaven-jjba-jojo-gif-13999263087100675259

cosmolight spamming:

[spare pier]

I think the only problem with this interpretation is that this idea can lead to some fucky stuff

But also, eh

[dusk laurel]

uh you cant spam cosmolight anymore right or is it bakidon that has the recharge thing or whatever

i genuinely cant remember

[fierce pagoda]

baki-dou

[spare pier]

I think we've made some changes since but idr

Either way this is probably the best explanation

Bakidon creates a time bubble around you where everything runs really fast

And said time bubble is just

[dusk laurel]

suspicious

[spare pier]

Pretty damn big

So realistically you'd be unable to exploit it in battle

Reminder that small to medium-scale spells are always the easiest to accomplish

Get too small or too big and it gets Really Fucking Hard

And in the case of the time bubble, yeah

[split mortar]

So its possible for xeroc to za warudo

Xeroc upscale

[fierce pagoda]

quantum magic

[spare pier]

I think any sort of time magic is just tremendously specific or comically difficult to do so

Either way this kind of time manipulation is fine anyways

The problem is always with any kind of rewinding

[fierce pagoda]

that doesnt happen in cal tho

does it?

[split mortar]

She didnt deny xeroc having za warudo

[fierce pagoda]

its only ever speeding up

[split mortar]

Yeah speed up/slow down afaik

[spare pier]

And even then I think unless you just straight up use time travel, rewinding time can work in some way

But

Doubt we're ever gonna go there in Cal

[fierce pagoda]

speed up just manipulate the mass or something idk

im not a physicist

[spare pier]

Like, I think something like Thanos rewinding Vision after Wanda explodes him

[split mortar]

The sun controls the flow of time and xeroc pushes it backwards

[spare pier]

That stuff is cool and can realistically work in any story without causing complications

It's just

Strong as fuck

[split mortar]

Right so xeroc upscale

[spare pier]

Same goes for basically every other use of time manipulation which is why I'm careful with it

[fierce pagoda]

enchanted sundial

a week cooldown

[icy veldt]

Adding time travel to an existing setting never really goes well

[fierce pagoda]

but magically refills every blood moon and eclipse

[spare pier]

Enchanted Sundial and Moondial work on the same basis as Cosmolight

Even more now that they actually upgrade into it

[wanton pendant]

I see.
Xeroc can use Chaos Control.

[spare pier]

[dusk laurel]

would it be economical to mention what you plan for draetalk here

[warm gull]

oh is the cosmolight canon

[fierce pagoda]

so bakidon worrked with time bubble

how did cosmolight work again

[warm gull]

I thought it was just a gameplay feature

[split mortar]

Super sonic is xerocs fursona but like the opposite

[warm gull]

is the momentum capacitor also canon then

[spare pier]

The what

[eager bluff]

time just did that

[split mortar]

^

[dusk laurel]

momentum capacitator is very dead

[warm gull]

rebecca how the fuck do you not know what a momentum capacitor is

[eager bluff]

momentum capacitor my beloved

[split mortar]

Move 5 times faster item

[spare pier]

Oh yes absolutely

Like

It's literally perfectly balanced

[eager bluff]

its more than 5 isnt it

[split mortar]

Idk

[wanton pendant]

Why is Super Sonic's Humansona(?) weaker than Super Sonic? Is he stupid?

[spare pier]

Imagine the Flash except he cannot perceive the speed at which he runs

That's useless

[wanton pendant]

Also Super Sonic only uses Chaos Control in like, two games.

[spare pier]

Yeah, I can go super fast. Except I can't even perceive my new speed properly and will probably run into a wall.

[fierce pagoda]

terrarian can tank it tho

were durable

[wanton pendant]

That's what the Speed Force is for, along with about five hundred other useful bonuses.

[spare pier]

I don't think there's like

Anything Non Donor or Dedicated that is actually problematic enough that we need to decanonize

Seasonal Moons count as dedicated

[fierce pagoda]

whar about solar eclipse enemies

[dusk laurel]

reference content

[fierce pagoda]

grug

[spare pier]

Forgot reference content on the list yeah

[wanton pendant]

Vampires aren't copyrighted, baby.

[fierce pagoda]

Dracula is public domain🥹

[wanton pendant]

When will they reveal the ultimate twist.
Xeroc is vampire.

Dracula existing in Calamity implies Ireland exists.
Why won't the devs address this?

[eager bluff]

not exactly

dracula (the character) existing does not mean bram stoker (the author who wrote dracula) exists

[wanton pendant]

Can we execute you?

[eager bluff]

no

[fierce pagoda]

oh like a file

.exe

dont say sonic

[eager bluff]

soinc

[fierce pagoda]

zoink

[dusk laurel]

melon gun solar eclipse is just different versions of the terrarian

[wanton pendant]

Zinc.

[dusk laurel]

okay wow the wifi here reeks

took me many moons for that message to send

[spare pier]

Cheese's Solar Eclipse is several pngs of Jacob Bryson

@pliant ruin

My Solar Eclipse is CIT exploding me

[pliant ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/akira-leave-me-alone-leave-me-alone-meme-gif-6420351794930725971

[eager bluff]

epic embed fail

[dusk laurel]

hairboom.gif

[pliant ruin]

its the akira gif

[wheat walrus]

my solar eclipse crashes your game bc it'd be funny

[dusk laurel]

draedon texting services

[icy veldt]

Shouldn't it imply that Romania exists?

[wanton pendant]

Don't be ridiculous.
Dracula is set before the foundation of Romania, which at the time was split between states like Wallachia, Moldavia, and Hungary.
The author of Dracula however is from Ireland.

[icy veldt]

I'm old enough to remember when it was called Dacia, and then a while after that Rhomania (actually spelled Ῥωμανία) referred to the Roman Empire

[wanton pendant]

Old.

[dusk laurel]

calling transylvania hungary 💔 (i mean yeah it was a core territory of hungary for like centuries with small gaps where it was separate but still

[icy veldt]

Don't be silly, Transylvania is part of Austria!

[dusk laurel]

austria is just southern bavaria that somehow got independence and then somehow retained independence from germany

[wanton pendant]

I hardly thought this was the place to begin discussing the political division of the principalities in medieval Europe.

Less of it getting independence and more so of it literally being 'Germany' until a second Germany spawned in.

Obviously, the Habsburgs got a strong hook on the Holy Roman Emperor.

[icy veldt]

Yeah, better to discuss the political division of the principalities in the Deific Era Heartlands

[wanton pendant]

In that regards, Ilmeris was the opposite of Italy.

[icy veldt]

Maybe like England, then: an aquatic parliamentary monarchy

[dusk laurel]

ilmeris is kinda like italy where they were disunited tribes until someone united them but instead of conquest it was 2 gods who just got them to work together

[icy veldt]

I think I've said this before, but Azafure seems similar to the merchant republics of Italy, except focused more on manufacturing and craftsmanship instead of trade

[icy veldt]

England was also disunited kingdoms (Mercia, Wessex, Kent, East Anglia, Northumbria) before its unification by King Alfred

[wanton pendant]

And then some French lunatic made them English.

[dusk laurel]

yep

angles + frisians + jutes + normans = english

[split mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/kris-pronouns-deltarune-kris-deltarune-deltarune-kris-pronouns-they-them-gif-6074482569525867005

[dusk laurel]

Die.

[wanton pendant]

I guess the Saxons never existed to you.

[dusk laurel]

i completely forgot about them

😭

theyre in the name anglo-saxons too im just washed

anyways friendly reminder france was named after an old german tribe

[wanton pendant]

The Franks.

Everyone there was named Frank.

Got very confusing.

And that's how the French language was born.

[north root]

now i'm imagining the famed Florentine poet Dante

except he's azafurian

Dante's inferno except the demons are chrysadians

[dusk laurel]

gulp

[north root]

lucifer is a wyvern

[wanton pendant]

Dante's Inferno but instead of Dante being judgemental he's just racist.

[abstract hedge]

So uh

What the hell is the frogfish bestiary entry talking about when it says the "heart of an empire unrivaled"?

[wanton pendant]

Atlantis I guess.

[dusk laurel]

a writer said it was about yharim's "empire" but its so vague that idt anyone even thought of it

[wanton pendant]

Why did Yharim put his base in the ocean? Is he shellfish?

[dusk laurel]

idfk #lore-discussion message

[wanton pendant]

I see.

[abstract hedge]

Weird

Are there even any cities we know of that aren't in ruins? Like we know of Illmeris, Azafure, and the sky place I forgot the name of but they're all destroyed by now.

[dusk laurel]

thats because we're on the worst continent

we dont know of any major settlements that are still left on this continent

[wanton pendant]

Are there places not completely in ruins?
Yes.

Are they anywhere near us?
No.

And two of those places only got destroyed 'recently' (last twenty years).
Chrysadia got nuked like 850 years ago.

[dusk laurel]

chrysadia got supernuked and then slowly declined until it ceased to exist, ilmeris was boiled until most were just dead, and then azafure got double nuked

[wanton pendant]

Crusade wasn't just a carpet bomb of the planet.
Well, except that one part.

[abstract hedge]

Yeah Chrysadia, that's what I was thinking of.

[feral skiff]

is there a map of the calamity world?

[long bloom]

no

[feral skiff]

i figured

[pliant ruin]

Frogfish bestiary is kind of conchfusing and weird i hope it gets rewritten when frogfish gets critterfied

[abstract hedge]

Yeah no there's not a map.

[wanton pendant]

We know we're somewhere south I think.

[abstract hedge]

We barley know anything about any places outside the continent it takes place on aside from stuff like goblins being a thing, the Martian stuff being from a destroyed society really far away (unless shockstorm shuttles are entirely unrelated to Martians), and the distortion being a thing.

[dusk laurel]

there are 5 continents, a fiery waste, the world the terrarian plays in, ibipaua, and then theres two unnamed continents

anyways i dont feel like thinking about the gazillion small details abt the other continents right now so you could bother wraith

[wanton pendant]

Also Telma is one of the named continents.

The 'fiery waste' is one of the unnamed ones.

[dusk laurel]

right telma

its close to midnight for me my brain is slowly decaying

[agile matrix]

is the fiery waste brimfire, dragonfire, or an evil other fire

[long bloom]

regular fire

[split mortar]

Martians are from different planet not just really far away iirc

[pliant ruin]

oh gee i wonder what planet taht would be

[pliant ruin]

as xzier said its just. normal ass fire

its just active volcano land full of lava and eruptions and such

very hard to live in because its just full of active lava flows but not entirely uninhabitable i dont think

[random mulch]

so like, iceland the size of a continent?

[split mortar]

If people can live in the underworld which is like 50% lava wtf is going on in hell continent

[pliant ruin]

tbf underworld had silva's influence to give htem Crops and stuff, don't think evil hell continent had that going on

so coming accross food would prob be harder

atleast in terms of like, farming

[split mortar]

Thats just the crags not the underworld at large

And we know there is stuff outside azafure

[pliant ruin]

fair

[random mulch]

angry lava continent wouldn't make much sense as it'd eventually be colonized by plant life unless there's something non-tectonic going on

[pliant ruin]

its the slagwyrms fault

[random mulch]

and ash from burnt plant life makes for great fertiliser

[pliant ruin]

honestly yeah with all of htat in mind its hard to think that this continent would be supposedly harder to live in than the heartlands

[split mortar]

Its lava hotter then crags lava

[pliant ruin]

unless it had More going on

[random mulch]

so what if angry lava continent was on one of the poles so it was too cold on most of it to support anything

basically antarctica with a healthy sprinkling of (active) volcanoes

[reef nova]

That'd be pretty cool

[split mortar]

700000 volcanos

[pliant ruin]

like surely if people can live in the underworld just being a evil angry lava realm of a continent wouldn't be enough to make it be considered more dangerous than the place where like most of the crusade happened and there's giant fucking Blobs of evil god land and also the toxic radioactive waste sea and multiple instances of Necromantic Nuclear Falloff and

[pliant ruin]

this would be cool

2 extremes in just one place

[random mulch]

though being completely barren and covered in ice sheets would make it an extremely difficult place to live on

the only thing that could make a place more difficult to live on than a continent full of monsters, is a continent with nothing at all

[mighty zenith]

so basically the glaciers in dbs broly

kinda awesome actually

[random mulch]

yes but slap the 2 environments together

volcanoes & magma poking out of the ice

of course continents are big and their latitude varies. there's probably a couple places north / south enough to become tundras (like, actual tundras)

considering the wide variety of biomes in the heartlands, it probably stretches a lot of latitudes

can't say how wide the continent is though

calamity world map when

[real silo]

No way just like .

The evil volcano land winter scene I wrote

[dusk laurel]

evil hell continent during the winter and its just sea levels rising

[real silo]

it's true

active volcanoes, arctic winters AND unstable tides

throw in earthquakes too why the fuck not

Fuck that place in particular

[fleet wedge]

RP doc (totally)

[fleet wedge]

And tornadoes

[real silo]

non sscls user knowing about rp is crazy

it does jave a map with the evil hell continent

And it's exclusively populated by my characters

[fleet wedge]

Cool

[fleet wedge]

[fleet wedge]

I learned about it from this channel

[pulsar ocean]

calamity mod dark continent arc

[real silo]

Fair enough I just didn't expect it

(I haven't been in this channel in months

[cloud ibex]

Punk hazard one piece

I think

[long bloom]

they talk about it in lore discussion fucking constantly

wait

this isn't cst

[random mulch]

punk hazard has eveything split into 2 sides

[real silo]

They as in this specific user or everyone else

[long bloom]

everyone else

[real silo]

[cloud ibex]

Ok true but it is still volcano ice land

[random mulch]

well yes but it doesn't match up to what i'm saying

the volcanism & ice wouldn't be seperate but would cross through eachother

[split mortar]

There have been multiple times where roleplayers just
Talk here like its rp discussion

[real silo]

I know

Just wasnae sure about who teng was talking about

[random mulch]

where more info on continents

[real silo]

Whar

[snow mountain]

its rp shit apparently??

[dusk laurel]

what?

[real silo]

[cloud ibex]

[snow mountain]

gwuh

[dusk laurel]

#1264760793510055957 message this doc has all the public continent info i think

you have to scroll down a bit

[split mortar]

No the rp just used and expanded what we know

[random mulch]

does the planet work on latitude-based temperature like any real planet or does it just go nuts with what's where

[snow mountain]

i would ask why but i am about to keel over

[split mortar]

Because we wanna use whats base calamity ?

[snow mountain]

nah its just unnecessary elaboration in my eyes

[split mortar]

The cal devs prob plan on using em for world building
Hard to have world building when no world i imagine

[snow mountain]

yeah its just kinda useless when its completely like idk i would providee a better point but im too tired rn

im saying words here

[young socket]

heartbreaking people find out people talk about other places than the ones they live in

[random mulch]

location of biomes is probably just "fuck it we ball" rather than being based on latitude

because it'd be practically impossible to have a part of the heatlands be south enough for even temperate forests, while still having enough place further south for a seperate continent with a jungle

[fierce pagoda]

what is useless elaboration

isnt it always fun and cool to learn more

[young socket]

buzzword

[snow mountain]

i don't mindd there being other places, its just that no lore ever hints toward it, at least public lore?? it could probably be linked to vanilla content or something

[young socket]

nothing else

[snow mountain]

pirates cough cough

[split mortar]

Not in ingame due to unfinished mod moment

[fierce pagoda]

I mean cant you infer that there are other continents just based on gameplay

[snow mountain]

waow

[real glen]

Not again

[snow mountain]

embed fail

[real glen]

Mods

[split mortar]

Ew mr beast scam

[snow mountain]

god its so funny

the limited 3d its so charming

[real glen]

I want to know why people are falling for that

[snow mountain]

pirates

[fierce pagoda]

what if calamity was like pangrea

[snow mountain]

pangrea

[fierce pagoda]

what the hell is pangrea?

[split mortar]

Wouldnt be surprised if those and goblins are used once the bestiary rewrite happens

[snow mountain]

goblins mmm

[icy veldt]

Clicking on weird-looking links and instantly entering in their Discord username and password (because they're dumb)

[snow mountain]

we need more goblin lore

in general

[random mulch]

we need more goblin content*

[real silo]

Pangaea

[snow mountain]

for real

[split mortar]

Slimegod was a goblin when

[snow mountain]

globlin

we need a miniboss fr

[fierce pagoda]

like the whole world or the planet

[random mulch]

pangaea was a supercontinent

basically almost all land on earth in one big slab

[snow mountain]

pangrea

[fierce pagoda]

like the whole earth?

or like the planet?

[snow mountain]

its kinda goblin racist to associate them with literal greed incarnate

[icy veldt]

What's the difference between "the whole Earth" and "the planet"?

[real silo]

pangaea was all the Non-water

aka all the land

[random mulch]

all of the dry land

[fierce pagoda]

do you believe in the big bang or pangrea?

[real silo]

pangroal

[random mulch]

they're not mutually exclusive

pangaea isn't even the first supercontinent

nor the last

[fierce pagoda]

yeah but see the big bang created everything, and planets and stuff, then the planet was in a certain sate

and THEN the meteor hit

[median helm]

golobin..

[random mulch]

the big bang made a bunch of hydrogen and helium