lore-discussion

[glacial rampart]

[split mortar]

Huh

@wanton pendant

[pulsar ocean]

So the yharim fought the sun theory is proven now?

[split mortar]

Possibly

Not a lore dev so it is more dubious but yeah possible

[leaden bridge]

Im not surprised the concept trackk made and titled by composers in complete isolation from the lore writers isn't 100% accurate with its naming

[wanton pendant]

That's the name of the guy who made the song.

[leaden bridge]

alsp yeah we just realized lol

[wanton pendant]

Xeroc #1 fan, AKA Tyrant.

[split mortar]

Why does everyone think the song is for someone called tyrant 😭:

[pliant ruin]

bro tyrant is like a huge lore nerd he'd NOT name the xeroc track tyrant 😭

"complete isolation" mfw

bro literally out here making a lore documment for FUN

[wanton pendant]

He's interested in the lore?
Really?
Could have fooled me.

[split mortar]

Yeah tyrant is a lore nerd

[dusk laurel]

oh wow hes making a lore doc? really? wow.

[leaden bridge]

well the track isn't named tyrant we were just going off the forwarded message lol

we didn't remember the announcement didn't name the track at all

[split mortar]

Throwing you out the window

[dusk laurel]

[pulsar ocean]

Yharim is making a lore doc?

[dusk laurel]

.

[leaden bridge]

It's called lore items

[split mortar]

Lea spores upon this wretched place

[balmy glacier]

and poiler talk channel preferably

[latent bolt]

What lore does the mechanic's shed have

[wanton pendant]

Beyond presumably being a shed belonging to the Mechanic, I don't know.

[pulsar ocean]

I thought you're the lore master

[wanton pendant]

I'm sorry for not making women I rescue from Dungeons explain to me the history of their sheds.

[pulsar ocean]

I guess you're not the lore guy after all

[feral skiff]

It might have tools

[frosty charm]

And it may or may not have belonged to the mechanic

[reef nova]

The mechanic's shed lore is up to YOU!

[frosty charm]

The Mechanic's she'd lore is—hey wait what are you doing NOOO

[pliant ruin]

o
| 🫵

[pulsar ocean]

-Y

[river python]

Zeratross should be extremely strong, right?

[wanton pendant]

Yes.

Well, was.

He's dead.

[river python]

how much

[tropic oak]

He’s dead much

[split mortar]

Yharim

[split mortar]

Seems to consistently be around that ballpark of strength

[wanton pendant]

What was it, more destructive but less skilled than Yharim or something?

Or was that just Calamitas.

[split mortar]

Idfk

[river python]

in raw should be very strong

but if i remember

the dragons never trained

[tropic oak]

zeratros is just moderately stronger that the primordial wyrm

or well. at least prowess wise

[river python]

makes sense,

[tropic oak]

he’s above Calamitas in the destructive category if thats ehat you’re looking for

[river python]

Zeratross was the strongest Dragon?

[tropic oak]

we can assume he was

[wanton pendant]

He was.

Yharon was number two.

[tropic oak]

imagine Rebirth being above Death. that mustve made (dragon of death’s name here) depressed

[split mortar]

Yharon is second strongest auric dragon and only behind their king

[river python]

Isn't Yharon young compared to the others? Didn't Zeratross have around 3000 and Yharon 2000?

[wanton pendant]

'And yet, one of these majestic beings reached a height of power possibly second only to their king.'

[split mortar]

What?

[wanton pendant]

Yharon is one of the oldest.

[river python]

years

[split mortar]

Yharon if anything is like 3rd oldest

[river python]

oh

[tropic oak]

the dragon aerie is thought to be at least 2,000 years old+

[river python]

how many age had Zeratross in the moment he died?

[split mortar]

We also have no concrete age for the auric dragons for all we know it could have been 100K years before ml invaded

[wanton pendant]

Unknown.

[tropic oak]

so we can probably say anywhere from 2,000 years in the past to well

buttfuck somehwere

[river python]

i remember that I've heard that Dragons inhabited Terraria approximately 1000 years ago

counting that Xeroc killed Zeratross 800s years ago

[tropic oak]

faaaarrr longer than that

[wanton pendant]

No idea who told you that.

[tropic oak]

we need to get this lore doc out bruh

[wanton pendant]

It was 850 years ago.

[river python]

In this same chat, all the information I got from here

[wanton pendant]

Dragons had been around for ages by then.

[split mortar]

Auric dragons predate azafure

[pulsar ocean]

Zeratros is fodder

Got no diffed by moon lord

[river python]

Who did the last hit

to moonlord?

[wanton pendant]

Dragon of Sneak Attacks.

[river python]

curious

[pulsar ocean]

do they predate deez nutz tho

[feral skiff]

if Prime ML was extremely powerful, how did he fall off so hard?

wouldn’t it be super easy to stay that strong forever?

[wanton pendant]

You get a lobotomy and your legs cut off and see how strong you are.

[feral skiff]

yeah but like, wasn’t he the same power level as xeroc, or stronger?

couldn’t Prime ML have annihilated the people attacking him out of existence

[tropic oak]

have you tried getting a lobotomy and having your legs get cut off?

[icy veldt]

I've done the first part of that already

[cold owl]

Xeroc is far stronger than Prime Moon Lord ever was now. Moon Lord stands borderline no chance.

Although, even after getting his skull cracked open, organs removed, body chopped in half, and sealed for centuries he's still extremely powerful which I think speaks to how strong he truly was for just surviving as I don't think anything else could.

[feral skiff]

okay so he was not xeroc’s power level

that makes much more sense, thank you

[long sand]

He puts up a small fight

[feral skiff]

Prime ML against Xeroc?

[split mortar]

Yeah
prime ml is the second strongest

Out of anyone has the biggest chance to win against xeroc but still unlikely

[feral skiff]

it’s honestly kinda crazy that every single lore character combined still wouldn’t win

(well maybe they could, but still pretty unlikely)

[split mortar]

I highly doubt that moonlord still has a chance on its own so add noxus and yharim and other strong characters? Yeah i see xeroc falling
The strength of xeroc rn is kinda very in the air so dev statements vary so much they arent that reliable

[wanton pendant]

Everyone ganging up on Xeroc at once?
Probably could kill him.
The issue is that getting everyone to work together is basically impossible.

[fleet wedge]

insert that one Sneak Attack image

[burnt leaf]

I'm of the personal belif that

Terrarian + Prime ML could give Xeroc a run for his own money

But yeah its as melon said

gl getting the strongest characters to team up

like out of all of the strongest character i think the biggest team up you can get that COULD realistically happen

would be like

terrarian, calamitas, braelor

[dusk laurel]

cheese

[wanton pendant]

I mean, you could also go Terrarian, Yharim, Draedon, Yharon, Devourer of Gods if you want to villainmax.

[burnt leaf]

chees

[burnt leaf]

See thing about a villain team up is that

well ok

terrarian, yharim, yharon i can see

[wanton pendant]

And an army, I suppose.

[burnt leaf]

draedon and devourer are maybes i think, i think yharim/yharon would be willing to work with em again if they Really Need to so fair

so yeah in that case i think that'd be a larger actually plausible teamup

[wanton pendant]

DoG technically still works for Yharim.
Yharim has shown he's willing to still work with Draedon if he must.

[frosty charm]

And draedon dont gaf

[pulsar ocean]

Why didn't yharim just rub a lamp and ask a genie to un-godify xeroc

[icy veldt]

By the time he thought of that, he had already killed all the genies

[frosty charm]

He killed the god of genies

[burnt leaf]

yharim dosen't shower due to the existence of the god of showers (which he killed)

he would never dare to partake in such a foul act, propagated by the falsely divine

[reef nova]

Wait

does that mean

he also didn't allow his allies to shower either?

I mean, he probably wouldn't want his comrades to partake in such foul acts, propagated by the falsely divine, right?

[burnt leaf]

yep

he didn't allow them to

thats the true reason perma and cal left they couldnt stand being forced to be stinky as hell all the time

[reef nova]

Now THAT is a calamity

Also

I have a question for you chees

Do you perhaps like apples?

[reef nova]

Draedon is on some non-chalant shi

[frosty charm]

boys, boys, i'm tryna research, leave me alone typ shi

[reef nova]

And then he proceeds to shake his artifical dreads

Honestly

Imagine if Draedon had a low taper fade

genuinely

[pulsar ocean]

yharim doesnt shower because the auric lightning would fry him alive

and he never takes off the armor

[feral skiff]

that moment when i swing my pickaxe at the auric ore but i fall and perish

(i was SHOCKED to death)

[reef nova]

Wait shit you're right

I just realized somethinf

AURIC TOILET

IS AN ACTUAL TORTURE DEVICE

[frosty charm]

he's immune

but i imagine walking around without armor would be incredibly uncomfortable considering the burns

[snow mountain]

does the auric toilet reject your waste

[reef nova]

Idk but it'll shock you a lot

[pulsar ocean]

but the bars are already coated in yharon's soul so it wont kill you

[split mortar]

The burns atp coild be healed

[reef nova]

Oh

Wait

I just realized

[frosty charm]

yeah they're probably healed but that's just

[snow mountain]

i mean surely skin grafts are a thing

[frosty charm]

still very uncomfortable

[reef nova]

isn't it kinda disrespectful to use Yharon's soul for a fucking toilet?

[snow mountain]

no

fuck him

[pulsar ocean]

yharon is the main catalyst of a genocide

[reef nova]

I mean heah duh

[split mortar]

Yeah or some wacky magic or super tech stuff draedon could do

[reef nova]

fuck that guy

but it's still funny in a way

we're practically sitting on his soul

[snow mountain]

what if we skin you and give it to yharim to wear

would that work

hypothetically

[frosty charm]

this is yharim under the armor #factualandreal

[split mortar]

I dont think melon skin does well for humans

[pulsar ocean]

Is that dbd springtrap

[frosty charm]

yes

[snow mountain]

nah its not charred enough

also which way up did yharim touch the lava

[frosty charm]

id send the half life model but errr

[snow mountain]

no thats got a corpse sample

as its texture, no?

[frosty charm]

yea

SHUT UP! My dad words vor VALVE and will use your decomposing corpse for a model texture

they had much more fun with the gore in l4d/l4d2 iirc they took inspo from like the elephant toothpaste experiments

[hoary cape]

Your dad words vor valve

[frosty charm]

FUCK

[warm gull]

the enemy walks among us. yharim haters reveal yourselves

#saveyharim2028

[icy veldt]

My hatred runs pure, uncorrupted by compassion or nuance

[wild wren]

Hi guys

Time to join the lore

Don't mind my tag

Cause that be a diff type of lore 💀

[wanton pendant]

Present your questions.

[dusk laurel]

concerning

[magic epoch]

im looking at the server banner and genuinely what is this this looks evil and im trying to like make it and it doesnt sound like anything i would know either

[wanton pendant]

I think that's Megalovania.

[pulsar ocean]

It's that song from geometry dash

[frosty charm]

anyone wanna draft a distortion ecosystem

[pulsar ocean]

I think it's purple

[frosty charm]

nop

[split pewter]

i don’t think it would even really have much of an ecosystem

[frosty charm]

it's planned to be one

[fleet wedge]

New theory: Yharim is actually The Great Papyrus! (Who is also the Roaring Knight )

[woeful hatch]

Always bet on papyrus knight

[cosmic minnow]

@woeful hatch is calcalith pro or anti lgbtq

[woeful hatch]

Pro, she's pan

[cosmic minnow]

Fire

Woke roleplay

[woeful hatch]

Also why are you asking here lmao

[cosmic minnow]

Funny

I mean

Rp is Lore

This is lore chat

[split mortar]

Did you forget you were in lore chat

[cosmic minnow]

No

[split mortar]

https://tenor.com/view/spray-bottle-cat-spray-bottle-spray-bottle-meme-loop-gif-25594440

[cosmic minnow]

Lmao

[cosmic minnow]

This is quite fucked up

[split mortar]

:3

[split mortar]

When is sso…

[cosmic minnow]

When Sarenio

Make Sarenio canon to calamity

Trust

[split mortar]

Add ebonia

[cosmic minnow]

Evil hell child

[split mortar]

Wtf did she do

[cosmic minnow]

Apocalypse ebonia….

[split mortar]

She hasnt done that

[cosmic minnow]

yet

[split mortar]

She aint doing that the rp would fucking explode if she did

[cosmic minnow]

Well

I bet some sovereign mf could take care of her

[split mortar]

Yeah but i dont think they would be quick enough to not have her end the world

[cosmic minnow]

Or just give Sarenio’s ult matter deletion instead of just vaporizing

[split mortar]

Matter deletion is already accounted for by the immortality

It just fails

That would make it less effective against her

[cosmic minnow]

That’s pretty busted

[split mortar]

Well yeah its almost like the universe hardcoded her to not fucking die to anything present on the planet including mark

[cosmic minnow]

The nefarious mark

[woeful hatch]

I mean yeah that's kinda the point of an heavens-created apocalypse weapon

Be good at bringing the apocalypse

[cosmic minnow]

The rumbling

[split mortar]

You are not meant to be able to bypass the test

[cosmic minnow]

Heavens way of saying „you fucked up, now fuck you.“

[woeful hatch]

Anyways let's get outta here before some poor schmuck sees us talking about OCs and thinks they're canon

As funny as it'd be

[split mortar]

Itd be funny tho…

[cosmic minnow]

Wdym Sarenio is canon to new lore

As is Léa

She’s literally the terrarian

[wanton pendant]

To anyone confused, it's been a long time since the last update, the others lost their minds a long time ago. Also, the answer to your question is that Nameless Deity is not canon.

[frank dune]

Yo yo yo

Gurt

[split mortar]

Hi

[wheat walrus]

Gurt: yo

[split mortar]

What are you on about its just rp rot

[frank dune]

I am honestly quite surprised this channel is still somewhat active

How could there be any lore without an update

Which hasnt been discussed

[split mortar]

The most relevant recent lore thats been discussed was yharim fought the sun theory and some theory about storm weaver
Other then that uh this chat is just rot

[woeful hatch]

1- new people asking for lore
2- lore regulars making theories because the lore is still incomplete/not fully known

3- rot

[split mortar]

Tho yharim fought the sun theory may have got confirmed

[frank dune]

Cook the yharim?

[woeful hatch]

Yeah, that looks like it's a confirmation that came just yesterday, so we do have more info

Also other dev statements and such

[light moth]

Or roy xd

[split mortar]

Reign if yharim and the roleplay fall under rot imo

[woeful hatch]

Both

[frank dune]

That might be a theory

A game

Theory

This chat has died of death

Not a big surprise

[cosmic minnow]

Roleplay

Ecumena is furina

Furina is Ecumena

Furina is Reb (according to Reb)

But furina is also Ecumena

So Ecumena is part of calamity

And Reb is therefore calamity

[dusk laurel]

die

[pliant ruin]

i see how it is

[split mortar]

🖕

[split mortar]

I put roy and rp there, literally no bias

[split mortar]

Throwing you off a building into a pile of bricks

[dusk laurel]

comparing royrot to rprot that is definitely bias

theres like no royrot ever except once or thrice a month

[woeful hatch]

As such, it is our duty to make it more common

[split mortar]

Yes

@pliant ruin make more roy so we can rot

[feral skiff]

the rot consumes.

[pliant ruin]

IM ON MY BREAK

https://tenor.com/view/marisad-touhou-marisa-kirisame-sad-gif-20456205

[wanton pendant]

Halloween Tomorrow, implement it into Reign of Yharim, and you will sell 5.38 million copies minimum.

[stoic gulch]

Have you guys heard of this guy called Ceglon

[young socket]

yea heard they were tupid

[stoic gulch]

True…

[young socket]

just like its creator

[dusk laurel]

[stoic gulch]

Whoever could that be!!

[pulsar ocean]

No

[robust osprey]

all the royrot is concentrated in blunderbeard

[pulsar ocean]

Is statis melee or rogue

[burnt leaf]

ninja

ninja class

does ninja damage

[split mortar]

Melon

[wanton pendant]

Fruit Ninja.

[dusk laurel]

lemon knife

[light moth]

Hi guys
One question
Wtf is this?
Is it a fanfiction or so called old lore?

The whole page really looks like a fan story, inspired by old lore

[feral skiff]

the lore is very inaccurate on the fandom wiki

[split mortar]

Total calamity is a now dead rp that got its own wiki for some reason

Different to the rp that haunts this chat nowadays

[feral skiff]

wait what? there's an RP wiki?

LOL

[split mortar]

Total calamity wiki is that wiki

[light moth]

Yeah, but I do not chase lore accuracy by looking at this subject

[split mortar]

This the equivalent for the modern rp ig

[light moth]

If it is an old lore - I am not surprised why people claim that Yharim has more aura in it

[light moth]

I mean this thingy

[split mortar]

Not even old lore its fanfic

[light moth]

Sad

[split mortar]

Doesnt stop people thinking it was or is canon

[limpid saddle]

I LOVE NOT CLARIFYING ANYTHING ON MY FUCKASS RP WIKI

[split mortar]

so true

update on this?

[frosty charm]

What are the confirmed dead gods again and which are most likely to have been slurped by DoG

like the ones we know the name/domain of

[split mortar]

uhh
otonilou

tyrian if he dead

idk who else

[frosty charm]

i'm gonna getcha

[wanton pendant]

Eaten by DoG, Otonilou is like, the only guaranteed one.

[frosty charm]

i'm just gonna assume all but like, three were slurped up for the sake of cool

so what are the dead gods again

that yharim killed at least

[wanton pendant]

Dogma, War, Shakidou, Otonilou, Tyrian(?).
Discord, war is an English word stop underlining it.

[split mortar]

dogma and war are wof, depending on when shakidou died might be before dog existed

[light linden]

are wof?

[frosty charm]

i'll say shakidou tyrian and otonilou will be godslop now

[wanton pendant]

Also DoG probably eats Providence and Slime God's corpses probably get eaten off screen if you kill them.

[split mortar]

wall of flesh

[frosty charm]

and provi yea

[split mortar]

in the wof

my b

[light linden]

I thought they were the hive mind and perforators

[split mortar]

yeah

bad wording

[wanton pendant]

Most of those bosses are made of them.

Not all of them.

[dusk laurel]

they are currently in/partially in wof

[wanton pendant]

Some bits of gore may have gotten lost.

[frosty charm]

what do you guys think would happen if one or more domains/godly souls were forcibly smashed together

[dusk laurel]

yes and no, because theres other gods that are part of them too

[frosty charm]

would they just kinda be broken down

[wanton pendant]

Polterghast.

[frosty charm]

would they do a fusion dance

[light linden]

noxus will likely know

[split mortar]

bigger god biome mess

[frosty charm]

yes thats why im asking

im working on a noxus interpretation

who has been forcefed godslop by dog

[wanton pendant]

'Don't worry little Noxus, Uncle DoG's got enough Godly Essence to feed you your entire life.'

[split mortar]

prob less themed on one singular theme like corruption as rot or crimson as gore
also prob yeah polterghastings if big physical vessels start forming

[wanton pendant]

Polterghast is when you smash normal souls together.
Stronger souls seem to just make Polterghast faster.

[frosty charm]

so it'd be like a third world evil

[split mortar]

on super fucking steroids

[frosty charm]

i don't think the spirits would even be slightly sentient; they've been in the noxus hivemind for a while

yea

[light linden]

hallow:

[frosty charm]

i've landed on a character for noxus so i'm working out the logistics

thats a world good

gay is good

[split mortar]

its also of benevolent gods

[wanton pendant]

This is the LGTV agenda or something I don't know I'm the diversity hire.

[dusk laurel]

world evils is inaccurate description unless you dont include the hallow

[split mortar]

god corpse biomes

[frosty charm]

like i dont imagine noxus/the distortion is outwardly hostile but it just so happens that they want to exist everywhere

dog is just a prick i guess

lol!

[split mortar]

moonlord is you??????????????

[frosty charm]

moon lord is... terrarian... is you?

[split mortar]

i used to have a ml pfp...

[dusk laurel]

when will you be the terrarian

[split mortar]

but you are the terrarian

did we learn what the fuck this was about

[wanton pendant]

Goozma real.

Either that or the Dragonborn was walking around somewhere.
Or a Dragon had two souls, I guess.

Wait, I figured it out.
Old Duke's just an idiot.

[split mortar]

pfft

[cosmic zenith]

Nope

[split mortar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1362177910689235124.webp?size=48&name=mewhenmygangfuckingdies

[light linden]

hi stip

[cosmic zenith]

???

Hello

[spare pier]

What?

[split mortar]

ah rebecca spouting random stuff ig

[spare pier]

I mean kinda but also not really

[wanton pendant]

Clearly my theory that the Elementals are related to the World Soul was right!
A shard of it split into five and made them.
This theory has no flaws whatsoever.

[dusk laurel]

i need to reread that conversation i think everyone her had their brains melt during those few hours

[light linden]

hi rebecca

[spare pier]

Ok so uh

The information I intended to convey with that statement is true

I'm just stupid

[dusk laurel]

okay

so the funny reason is that

you are stupid

got it

[wanton pendant]

Why did I get pinged!?

[split mortar]

convey the info better then

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah
So the amount of Dragons is equal to the amount of Souls

But there's a catch

(Which we won't reveal)

[spare pier]

Yeah

[wanton pendant]

I open the other door!

[split mortar]

xeroc

[wanton pendant]

Wait, this isn't the Monty Hall problem?

Damn it.

[dusk laurel]

ever or not for many many many years?

[wanton pendant]

Obviously they'll tell me it and I'll make a whole ARG to reveal it.
(Please for the love of God this is a joke don't make me do this.)

[split mortar]

found this finally fuck you fuck you fuck you

[frosty charm]

Hello 砕神 Stipulate "Glass Godlet" Venus

[cosmic zenith]

Hello

[frosty charm]

Why are you playing KPOP BRAINROT DEATHRUN. PARKOUR 999+ on Fortnite

[wanton pendant]

Wait what the hell.

[cosmic zenith]

It's an AFK XP farm :p

[frosty charm]

ah

[cosmic zenith]

I don't have time to play the game properly, as much as I wish to

[split mortar]

what does glass godlet mean venus

[cosmic zenith]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[frosty charm]

something something watcher

[cosmic zenith]

Rain World Watcher stuff

[split mortar]

ah

[frosty charm]

hoping we get rain world sniffer from james primate in two years time

[pulsar ocean]

𝙳𝚛𝚊𝚐𝚘𝚗 𝚘𝚏 𝚑𝚒𝚝𝚝𝚒𝚗𝚐 𝚢𝚘𝚞𝚛 𝚏𝚞𝚗𝚗𝚢 𝚋𝚘𝚗𝚎

[frosty charm]

weakness: those with a lack of humer

[feral skiff]

real calamity dev? this is a one in a trillion occurrence.

[pliant ruin]

its more like 1/2 honestly they show up pretty often

[plucky juniper]

on a scale of 1-metyr the mother of fingers, how much of a lore-shattering twist is this catch

[wanton pendant]

I see... there's an 'Auric Dragon' without an Auric Soul, and it's somewhere else.

[plucky juniper]

jared

[wanton pendant]

Primordial Wyrm is never referred to as being an Auric Dragon.

[plucky juniper]

[pulsar ocean]

if you feed a a dragon some auric bars does it become an auric dragon

[wanton pendant]

If you feed a pig a burger does it become a cow?

[pulsar ocean]

the burger is able to get digested

[feral skiff]

if you connected copper wires to an auric bar does it become a source of electricity

THINK.. they could have power generators.. no need for Draedon's Exo Prisms which are overcomplicated

[plucky juniper]

if you feed an elden ring drake ancient dragon smithing stones does it become a bayle

[pulsar ocean]

bayle a bitch tho

[split mortar]

Maybe but the copper prob exploding first

[feral skiff]

just make auric copper

[pulsar ocean]

if yharim picks up a burger and tries to eat it does the burger get rejected and explodes

[plucky juniper]

bayle is also a badass, it is perfectly reasonable to want to be him

[split mortar]

No its dead and not being tampered with by a unworthy person

[plucky juniper]

||I completely forgot that you also fight a buncha drakes that have flame lightning before bayle||

[pulsar ocean]

𝚍𝚘 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚠𝚊𝚝𝚎𝚛 𝚍𝚛𝚘𝚙𝚕𝚎𝚝𝚜 𝚐𝚎𝚝 𝚛𝚎𝚓𝚎𝚌𝚝𝚎𝚍 𝚒𝚏 𝚢𝚑𝚊𝚛𝚒𝚖 𝚝𝚛𝚒𝚎𝚜 𝚝𝚘 𝚜𝚑𝚘𝚠𝚎𝚛

[split mortar]

Dont see why they would

[pulsar ocean]

𝚑𝚘𝚠 𝚍𝚘 𝚢𝚘𝚞 𝚔𝚗𝚘𝚠 𝚜𝚘 𝚖𝚞𝚌𝚑 𝚕𝚘𝚛𝚎

[split mortar]

Autism and over a year of time

[pulsar ocean]

𝙲𝚛𝚊𝚣𝚢

[agile matrix]

do souls (auric, worldly, or humanoid) require a form or vessel to exist, or can they just exist overall

(see: world soul implies world being who had world soul that went boom)

[split mortar]

Souls come to exist from living beings but as we see with multiple items and polterghast they dont need to be in a living being to stay around once made as far as i know

[wanton pendant]

Considering they could be extracted for use in ascension, the existence of ghosts, and Yharon's ability to raise the dead Auric Dragons, it would seem that souls do not need a body to exist.
Godly Souls seem to be an exception, and collapse when removed from their body.

[split mortar]

Tho god essence (what it breaks into) is still able to be used for power, hence why hallowed metal or demonite snd crimtane are useful

[agile matrix]

form is there
i dont believe very powerful souls can just exist as a soul without quickly fading (see the souls) or just being itemable

lesser souls*

very powerful souls probably can but take on a form to remain

[wanton pendant]

There is no indication of souls having a time limit before collapsing.

[agile matrix]

like:
lesser souls either

are an item and therefore probably aren’t sentient
are the remains of a monster and quickly fizzle out (by being killed)
take on a shape to remain at least in some form (ghosts)

[agile matrix]

fizzle out as in “their existence is very likely not long lived due to their environment”

also polterghast is a massive collection of souls who all chose that form to take

[split mortar]

Theres still the individual souls possessing things in the dungeon

[agile matrix]

do they possess things? i thought that was the dungeons magickery causing most enemies to coalesque into those wisps

[wanton pendant]

We have no reason to believe Polterghast intentionally formed itself.

[agile matrix]

it semi did via its spawn text
more so schooled than sentiently thought to do that, but it did make that form unconciously

[split mortar]

Yeah the skeletons move and fight things cause the dead are possesing them

[agile matrix]

like i dont think its intelligently thinking "yes, a large group of me will hurt this guy really bad" i think its moreso a large mob of dead guys all wanting you dead and thats the resulting shape

[agile matrix]

i could either say thats a form, or i could just say thats another thing they can do to not die

ill prob say the latter since saying form gets lame eventually

[split mortar]

Theres also the souls that just
Charge at you
Post plantera

[agile matrix]

yea those are the quickly dying ones

those are the ones that i thought just materialize because the dungeon traps it and does that

[wanton pendant]

They only quickly die because you kill them.

[agile matrix]

yes

see "dies quickly due to their enviroment"

they either die quickly or possess something nearby

[wanton pendant]

Not... what that means.

[agile matrix]

yes, they dont just decay slowly over time
however, they do infact either kill themselves by running at you and dying, or they possess something nearby so they themselves dont die

(the possession is a more explanable despawn)

[pulsar ocean]

𝙸𝚏 𝚢𝚘𝚞 𝚐𝚊𝚟𝚎 𝚢𝚑𝚊𝚛𝚘𝚗 𝚜𝚘𝚞𝚕 𝚙𝚒𝚎𝚌𝚎𝚜 𝚝𝚘 𝙹𝚊𝚛𝚎𝚍 𝚠𝚘𝚞𝚕𝚍 𝚑𝚎 𝚋𝚎𝚌𝚘𝚖𝚎 𝚊𝚗 𝚊𝚞𝚛𝚒𝚌 𝚍𝚛𝚊𝚐𝚘𝚗

[agile matrix]

remind me who Jared is

[pulsar ocean]

𝙿𝚛𝚒𝚖𝚘𝚛𝚍𝚒𝚊𝚕 𝚠𝚢𝚛𝚖

[split mortar]

Teleport in abyss

[agile matrix]

i dont think they can consume souls

they're far too destroyed by eldritch magic

[pulsar ocean]

𝙹𝚞𝚜𝚝 𝚎𝚊𝚝 𝚝𝚑𝚎𝚖

[split mortar]

?

Only magic we know messing with jared is the goddess of life blessing it

[agile matrix]

correct me if im wrong but the order goes:
cultist
eidolist
eidolon worm
primordial eidolon worm

the further down the further its apparently messed with

thats what i last remember

[split mortar]

Eidolists are messed with to be like the wyrms
Afaik the wyrms themselves are just normal but strong dragon animals

And jared has silva going on

[agile matrix]

mmmmm

[pulsar ocean]

𝚈𝚘𝚞 𝚝𝚑𝚒𝚗𝚔 𝚒𝚝 𝚠𝚘𝚞𝚕𝚍 𝚋𝚎 𝚌𝚘𝚘𝚕 𝚒𝚏 𝙹𝚊𝚛𝚎𝚍 𝚒𝚜 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚍𝚎𝚜𝚌𝚎𝚗𝚍𝚊𝚗𝚝 𝚘𝚏 𝚣𝚎𝚛𝚊𝚝𝚛𝚘𝚜

[agile matrix]

i read rq: eidolists are former cultists who once worshipped dragons

eidolons are very very distant descendants of dragons

"Relatives of the auric dragons, they adapted to hide away in a forgotten corner of the world to survive the great purges. And yet even without auric souls, the power of eidolon wyrms rivals many of their brethren who possessed them." - Bestiary

[split mortar]

Would explain the strength but i think wyrms being different auric would be cooler cause then learn more aurics dragons

[agile matrix]

they're relatives to dragons but do not have auric souls

"The first Wyrm, blessed by the Goddess of Life, held staggering power that surpassed nearly all of its auric brethren. It held a deep hatred for any sign of usurped light, and would have attempted to strike down even the wielder of Primordial Light had they returned to reclaim their artifact. And yet, despite its immense power, it never would have stood a chance." - Bestiary on Primordial Wyrm

okay someone quickly give me a list of every known type of soul, item, lorewise, or otherwise

[split mortar]

Yeah cause not all dragons have auric souls only the auric dragons
Offshoot is just misleading when that just means yeah descended from auric dragon
Wyrms and fishrons and wyverns are genetically still dragons they just lack the special soul that made some be very important

Some dinosaurs are still alive as like birds, they didnt stop being that after millions of years while offshoots have like 2 thousand years

[agile matrix]

the wyrm is to auric dragons as the t.rex is to Kampecaris

[split mortar]

Jared is a direct offspring

As in born from an auric

Hence primordial

[agile matrix]

yes

[split mortar]

So not all offshoots are that

[agile matrix]

yes

jared is to aurics as trex is to kampecaris

related by genetics and descendants, but not by "here at the first dragon"

they're directly RELATED to the first ones, but they arent the aurics

[agile matrix]

i need a list of these so i can powerscale the souls in terms of stickingaroundedness

[wanton pendant]

World, Auric, Godly, and then the rest are various flavours of normal souls.

But if you want every named type...

[agile matrix]

i would presume souls of might are likely stronger than souls of light

[wanton pendant]

Light, Night, Flight, Sight, Fright, Might.

Might is the souls of humans.

Same with Sight and Fright.

[agile matrix]

oh cool

[split mortar]

Lemme list em
Soul of flight (from wyvern)
Soul of fright (skeleprime)
Soul of sight (twins)
Soul of might (destroyer)
Soul of light (hallowed enemy drop)
Soul of night (evil enemy drop)
Ectoplasm (drop from dungeon soul enemy)
That pink post ml version (same applies)
Ruinous soul (polterghast)
Auric soul shard (yharon)
Maybe the essence of eleum, sunlight snd calamity as well since essence is soul vibes?

Apart from auric soul shards all i listed were from mortals

No auric dragons died from soul damage so presumably auric is either harder to break or rebirth fixes em
God souls shatter to essence instantly on death pretty fucking fragile
Weirdly enough elementals are completely immortal despite soul and body damage existing including their godliness see silva
World soul split and caused auric souls yeah

[wanton pendant]

Flight are the souls of Wyverns... duh.

[agile matrix]

i must ask: are souls of light/night stronger than sight/might/fright

[split mortar]

We dunno
We can presume they weaker then mech souls due to mech souls used in stringer crafts

But not certain

[fierce pagoda]

what about ascendant spirit essence

[agile matrix]

im making a list of souls in terms of this list

for my own sake id say

[split mortar]

The stuff making that up are weird so not considering it till we know whats happening to endothermic snd nightmarfuel

[fierce pagoda]

oki

[agile matrix]

endothermic and nightmare are, im pretty sure, just the accumulation of that event

like its just what builds up in creatures from the events and its released when killed, i dont think its a soul

[wanton pendant]

It's also not real, you're just hallucinating, there is no 'Pumpking'!

[split mortar]

The post dog events are being nuked and so are the pumpkin moon and frost moon craft items iirc

So yeah uh

Ascendent soul is weird

[agile matrix]

as of right now

i believe ascendent soul essence is moreso an artificial creation of a fraction of ascended souls

[split mortar]

Those events DoG buffs are also not accounted for by the writers when writing the lore

[split mortar]

:shrug:

[agile matrix]

itd make sense id think

then again taking very cold energy and very spooky energy plus some raw hatred doesnt really seem itd make a fragment of an incredibly powerful soul

[warm gull]

yharim created xeroc as a setup to go to war against the gods

[split mortar]

Especially a ascended god soul when gods are more then just strong

They have domains and such

[fierce pagoda]

dont forget souls of blight!🤓

totally real and canon

[warm gull]

ocram is the god of famine

[split mortar]

/avatar colgator

[fierce pagoda]

you have no power here

[split mortar]

I have the full image saved i can just crop that back to your base pfp if i want

[fierce pagoda]

i take it back

show mercy

[split mortar]

Ima go sleep its midnight have fun chat

[fierce pagoda]

oh okay goodnight

anyone else answer my lore question

[agile matrix]

?

[fierce pagoda]

what happens to souls after you kill them

[agile matrix]

they die

[fierce pagoda]

like when you kill dungeon spirits, they drop ectoplasm

[wanton pendant]

They break down into soul juice.

[agile matrix]

yea

[fierce pagoda]

but what happens to them then

[wanton pendant]

Which is ectoplasm.

[agile matrix]

dead

[split mortar]

We dunno

Prob just fade

[fierce pagoda]

oh okay so they dont dissipate into mana

[split mortar]

Ok goodbye for real

[fierce pagoda]

or anything fancy

[wanton pendant]

Choose a belief system's afterlife.

[agile matrix]

they linger a bit after death, and their presence forms things

[wanton pendant]

And go with that.

[split mortar]

We dunno what souls made of

[agile matrix]

yea they just go to an afterlife

[agile matrix]

we know what two are

the dungeon wisps are made of ectoplasm and necroplasm

[wanton pendant]

That's just soul juice.

[fierce pagoda]

I see

uhm

[wanton pendant]

Not exactly a definable material.

[fierce pagoda]

so we dont know what ectoplasm is

[wanton pendant]

It's like saying souls are made of soul.

[fierce pagoda]

exepct for soul matter

[agile matrix]

if it was soul juice, the rest of the souls would likely also be able to produce it

[wanton pendant]

Like, obviously.

[agile matrix]

yea they quite literally are

[split mortar]

I mean like
If its mana or some other type of thing
Ectoplasm is like a souls blood and flesh i imagine not the particles

[young socket]

ive determined the earth is made out of earth

[fierce pagoda]

cuz i imgaine like in calamity, souls are a real thing

[wanton pendant]

What gave you that idea?

[agile matrix]

well, the earth is made of pebbles and stones and stuff

[fierce pagoda]

ike in irl there arent souls, its just a bunch of chemical reactions

[split mortar]

They are

[fierce pagoda]

but in calamity souls arent chemical

theyre a special something in you

so when you die, that soul has to go somewhere

[agile matrix]

dungeon souls are either

ghosts but they look funky
dungeon doing shecanery and trapping their spirit in ectoplasm/necroplasm
they just do that

[fierce pagoda]

while irl when you die its just chemical reactions stopping you from being alive

i was jus wondering what happens to bodyless souls

[split mortar]

Why do ghosts be different to the soul

[agile matrix]

ghosts are souls but more there

[split mortar]

Probably look at necromancy

[fierce pagoda]

do they dissipate, do they stick around until theyy posses something

do they reincarnate

[split mortar]

No thats other way round

[fierce pagoda]

do all living things in calamity have some amount of ectoplasm in them, if htats what souls are like made of

or is ectoplasm a uniqe thing that happens to souls in the dungeon

cuz the dungoen spirits posses dead skeleton corpses right

[split mortar]

As i got told by a dev ages ago
If you are alive you get a soul it comes free with your fucking life
Or something like that

[fierce pagoda]

and when you kill the skeleton they pop out

so if you kill regular humans

[split mortar]

Calclone has a soul and it isnt artificially made iirc

[fierce pagoda]

how come dungeon spirits dont pop out of them

[split mortar]

Maybe the amount of souls in dungeon has saturated the dungeon and so souls dont disipate or act normally after desth

[fierce pagoda]

i think my question is in essence, does ectoplasm=souls

[split mortar]

I imagine ectoplasm is like
A humans flesh

The souls flesh

[fierce pagoda]

right

so

regular humans dont have ectoplasm

since they dont need it to contain their soul

but free souls in the dungeon have somehow conjured up ectoplasm to be contained in

so that hey can keep moving around and possesing skeletons

[pulsar ocean]

𝙸𝚜 𝚒𝚝 𝚊 𝚕𝚘𝚠 𝚝𝚊𝚙𝚎𝚛 𝚘𝚗𝚎

[split mortar]

Maybe
-# its midnight i really should go sleep

[fierce pagoda]

okay but sorry melongun you have to sleep

[pulsar ocean]

𝙸𝚝'𝚜 4 𝚒𝚗 𝚝𝚑𝚎 𝚖𝚘𝚛𝚗𝚒𝚗𝚐 𝙸'𝚖 𝚏𝚎𝚎𝚕𝚒𝚗𝚐 𝚋𝚎𝚝𝚝𝚎𝚛 𝚝𝚑𝚊𝚗 𝚎𝚟𝚎𝚛

[fierce pagoda]

do you think you can answer my question

[icy veldt]

It's only 8 PM on Earth

[wanton pendant]

It's midnight, by Greenwich Mean Time which as we all know is objectively correct.

[icy veldt]

I don't think I've heard of that planet

[odd magnet]

Who is morally the best out of every known calamity character?

[pulsar ocean]

gorthus

[wanton pendant]

By what metric?
And do they need to be alive?

[feral skiff]

the god of nature probably? silva?

cant imagine she'd do anything wrong, but she probably did

[odd magnet]

Wdym metric? Also uhh can I get an answer for both

[solar wharf]

isn't nature itself very morally questionable

[feral skiff]

nothing compared to what yharim or calamitas did

[solar wharf]

i mean, natural selection is kinda like genocide

[wanton pendant]

Do we account all actions across their lives or their current alignment?
Anyway, for historical it's likely Vetrasyl and Otonilou who I believe are meant to be the moral peak of their kind.

[solar wharf]

if a government were to basically force people to kill each other for survival and adaptation, make that go for millions of years.

it wouldn't be a very.. moral government.

[odd magnet]

Hmm I think we’d need to know both

[wanton pendant]

So if you go by current alignment on the main cast Permafrost and Calamitas are on the higher end, but if you go by all actions across their lifespans they are both pretty bad.

[odd magnet]

Who are those two?

[wanton pendant]

Dragon of Storms and Goddess of Electricity.

The first probably got obliterated by Moon Lord and at some point had their soul consumed to create the second, who then died to Calamitas.

Exactly how they went from getting punched in the face by a giant monster to being eaten by a jellyfish woman...
The devs won't tell me.

[odd magnet]

What?

Jellyfish woman?

[feral skiff]

calamity lore is very strange sometimes. and also fun to read

[wanton pendant]

Otonilou is a jellyfish woman.

Not much more to explain really.

[odd magnet]

Ohh

[feral skiff]

who knew a TERRARIA MOD would have such complicated and deep lore????

[odd magnet]

Ohh

Oh

[wanton pendant]

Like how Amidias is a seahorse man.

[odd magnet]

Honestly It’s kind of nice for calamity’s lore to not be as vague as vanilla’s

[wanton pendant]

Nothing vague about beating up Cthulhu.

That's what I do every weekend.

[solar wharf]

oh moonlord didn't eat their souls??

[wanton pendant]

He's furious.

[wanton pendant]

We don't know exactly what Moon Lord does to the souls, but whatever it is it ain't pretty.

[odd magnet]

Lore is the why of everything, why do we beat up cthulhu is the lore

[solar wharf]

yeah i was gonna say, isn't the entire reason moonlord being able to wipe the dragons is that, they couldnt get revived due to their souls just disappearing everytime they go up against moonlord

[dusk laurel]

vanilla lore is so vague and small and inconsistent that i usually would disregard it

[feral skiff]

because.. the Terrarian is YOU, and that's what YOU want to do!

[wanton pendant]

It's CTHULHU!
That guy's bad news!

[wanton pendant]

No, that makes no sense.

If their souls just poofed out of existence then how could Xeroc ascend?

[solar wharf]

wdym?

no i meant

disappeared as in, like we don't know what happens to them

it's, like when someone gets kidnapped or whatever happens to them. you'd say they suddenly disappeared

you don't actually mean they poofed

you just mean something happened to them.

[odd magnet]

This electricity person is quite the peculiar fella wheter dragon or god, I’d like to know more about the jellyfish lady

[wanton pendant]

She founded a kingdom with an angler fish, the kingdom was basically invincible until they sent in the nuclear 16 year old.

[odd magnet]

So she was part of sunken lore?

[wanton pendant]

Yes.

[odd magnet]

Will there be mentions of her in overhaul?

[wanton pendant]

Yeah.
That's her (former) house.
It'd be weird if she was unmentioned in it.

She's already mentioned in-game anyway.

[odd magnet]

Where?

[wanton pendant]

Bestiary.

[dusk laurel]

she was one of the 2 founding gods of the kingdom te sunken sea used to be part of, so yeah shes really important

[wanton pendant]

'The seventeenth ruler of the constitutional monarchy of Ilmeris since the tribes of the Ilmeran Sea unified, under the Electric Goddess, Otonilou, and the elusive God of the Seas. Alas, one cannot be a ruler without subjects, and while he remains respected by those who opposed Godseeker Yharim, his kingdom is no more.'
Amidias' Bestiary entry.

[dusk laurel]

shes also considered to be calamity jesus

[icy veldt]

Me

[odd magnet]

What now?

[dusk laurel]

unfortunately she was boiled by an impressionable teenager

[dusk laurel]

its a joke, but shes the nicest and most caring god we know of besides what ravager was before being killed

[odd magnet]

Pre-ravager was nice?

[light linden]

yes

[dusk laurel]

the god of sacrifices yes

sacrifices in this case meant that he did self sacrifices in order to heal and protect his followers

so he was not like an aztec priest or the like who did human sacrifices

but then uh oh! yharim comes in and threatens all of his followers so he has to turn himself in so they dont get killed

and then eventually a particularly insane sect of his worshippers retrieved his body and revived him somehow into ravager, the god of blood

i have no clue how the domain changed again dont ask me

[pliant ruin]

agnus 🩷

my beloved

best god

[odd magnet]

Holy shit the crusade rlly sucked

[pliant ruin]

yeah yharim is kind of evil as fuck

like probably top 3 most evil characters in the entire mod

only really beaten by like. providence and devourer

[odd magnet]

Killed all the nice gods but let providence live what a masterul gambit yharim

[pliant ruin]

Mfw ur racist and u think all gods are ontologically evil

[pulsar ocean]

isnt agnus like jesus

[pulsar ocean]

whats wrong with dog

[wanton pendant]

Racist.

[pliant ruin]

i mean he kind of just kills people and is an asshole

atleast yharim has like . a few redeeming qualities

dog is just kind of a dick

[pulsar ocean]

ok but not racist enough to top the guy that caused half of the world's population to die

[icy veldt]

Gives me the opportunity to do something very funny

[icy veldt]

Redeeming qualities only make villains even worse

[odd magnet]

Yharim does not deserve death

I’d rather him live in the regret forever

[pliant ruin]

i mean he dosen't really regret the whole genocide thing in fact he actively still wants to accomplish it

An dhe's gonna die eventually regardless since he's ultimately just a mortal

[feral skiff]

it's so Yharimover..

his old age will be his downfall. he is an UNC.

[fierce pagoda]

way older than unc, bro is grunc

[odd magnet]

Really? I always thought he somewhat regretted it?

He always gave off that vibe

[pliant ruin]

He regrets using Calamitas a nuclear bomb

[wanton pendant]

He regrets grooming, treachery, generally not being effective enough, etc.

[pliant ruin]

Dosen't regret using that nuclear bomb against thousands of innocents to begin with tho

[tropic oak]

yharim

[pliant ruin]

Like

[wanton pendant]

Genocide? No, he's cool with that.

[pliant ruin]

Don't forget Every Lore Item In Regards To Gods

crimson/corruption? he talks about how THIS is hwat gods truly are. VILE, FOUL beings. these lands are PROOF of it

slime god? he congratulates you for beating it, but says you have yet to chase it down and kill it.

[odd magnet]

Grooming??

[fierce pagoda]

Did Yharim know about dreadon using the sulphur seas as his dumping groind

[pliant ruin]

yeah calamitas

yeah

iu mean

don't see why he wouldn't lmao

everyone knew

[icy veldt]

Then his rhetoric worked

[fierce pagoda]

ok so yharim was ok with that i suppose

[pliant ruin]

there were literally like enviromental activists telling Draedon to Stop That

[icy veldt]

Yharim wants to seem remorseful

[fierce pagoda]

fucking up the habitat of countless sea craetures: I sleep

Fucking up the bees: Real shit

[wanton pendant]

Child soldier, you know.

[fierce pagoda]

groomed her to become the perfect soldier

[icy veldt]

Someone who did something bad, not deserving death? Huh???

[odd magnet]

But I mean, lore from the main game is mainly through his eyes what else am I supposed to do other than believe him?

[icy veldt]

Think

[real glen]

Yharims trump card

[wanton pendant]

The Lore Items are basically Mein Kampf.
You get what I'm saying?

[odd magnet]

I thought he regretted everything, he didn’t so I take back that statement

[odd magnet]

So basically it’s like going through a retelling of ww2
With your main source of knowledge being mein kampf?

[wanton pendant]

Imagine if after World War 2 instead of shooting himself Hitler managed to enter the Shadow Realm, and then he began calling you and explaining about how he had to do all of it and he needs you to keep up his legacy, but he's sorry about how he made the Hitler Youth.
That's Yharim.

[pliant ruin]

See, that's the thing

Yharim does Regret things but also he's delusional

Icl when people say Yharim like

he's lying he dosen't regret anything he's a pure evil monster

that's just, honestly

a horrible flanderization of his character

with that said

yes, he's a evil bastard

like he's not reedemable at all

[odd magnet]

I wasn’t saying he doesn’t regret anything, I was saying I thought he regretted everything

[pliant ruin]

He has regrets but the problem is that he's incredibly delusional and so deep in his own ideology

[pliant ruin]

Wasn't reffering to you

[icy veldt]

I define evil as anything that Yharim approves of

[pliant ruin]

More so the way Avitus was handling

[icy veldt]

[pulsar ocean]

can sonic the hedgehog beat yharim

[pliant ruin]

That he literally Dosen't See the entire Genocide thing as evil

He fully believes it's a necessary massacre for the cause of justice

[icy veldt]

If Yharim disapproves of it, then it's automatically good

[pliant ruin]

He thinks the gods deserved to die

And so did their folowers, if such was needed

He's been fighting on the crusade for what

100 years?

he has lived for over 3x of his life as the Crusade Guy as he has as a normal civlian

Admitting that

[pulsar ocean]

why didnt yharon just sacrifice his soul to yharim for a "good" cause in their eyes so yharim can keep kickin on and achieve his goal

[pliant ruin]

Yes, i was wrong, i'm a evil bastard, the crusade was a fuckup

Would be equivalent ot saying 100 years of his life were Pointless and Didn't Help Anyone and just Killed People FOr No Reason

[icy veldt]

E.g. Yharim wanted to avenge the dragons -> the dragons deserved to die

Yharim wiped out a lot of people, killing people for worshipping the gods. The proper step forward is to kill the remaining population to avenge the gods

[pliant ruin]

So the result is just

Him being incredibly delusional

[wanton pendant]

105 years of crusading.
And you're still playing catchup to the English-French rivalry.

[pliant ruin]

I almost want to say that i'd believe

That at the very depths of Yharim's soul he knows he's a fuckup evil bastard

But he'd never truly admit that or let himself really believe that

he'd rather die in his little illusion of heroism

Than to ever admit yeah no im just like super gold hitler

[icy veldt]

Question: what could the Terrarian do that would hurt Yharim deeply on an emotional level?

[pliant ruin]

absorb yharons soul

gg

[icy veldt]

Feasibly

What could the Terrarian feasibly do?

[pulsar ocean]

download cheat sheet

[wanton pendant]

Befriend every living god.

[icy veldt]

I'm actually kinda serious about my question

[odd magnet]

Going by this hypothetical there’s also basically no other ways to find out how the war really went except from his input, so you’d kind of expect that the average person would believe him

[feral skiff]

instead of immediately killing yharon, the terrarian could wait, and kill yharon in the yharim boss battle

[real glen]

Something something "Terrarian is you!"
Now where is the image

[wanton pendant]

I guess also in the analogy the Hitler Youth were just children with nukes strapped to them that were airdropped world wide.

[icy veldt]

🤬🔥➡️🐱

[wanton pendant]

Yharon would never allow you to get that far.

[feral skiff]

true...

[odd magnet]

I feel like we need lore in the game that doesn’t have bias in it

[icy veldt]

Yharim's regret for grooming Calamitas is one of his few genuine regrets, isn't it?

[wanton pendant]

Draedon's your best bet, since he's seemingly amoral and thus only cares about the scientific aspect.

He doesn't care about which side wins, only what he can learn from it.

He wants you to beat Yharim since he thinks it will provide more data.

[pulsar ocean]

why dont draedon share the yharim's exo auric armor schematics

[wanton pendant]

Patent's still pending.

[odd magnet]

Draedon is honestly a decent source of lore, the problem is the lore has to be related to him so you don’t get the full picture without yharim-bias

[cold owl]

The bestiary is an omniscient truth (besides one entry that's a little messed up rn)

[tropic oak]

i am the best soruce of lore

[odd magnet]

Never thought into it that much

Even then I don’t know how most of you guys know the full truth, where do you guys get the lore that isn’t ingame or from the doc which is the lore ingame

[pulsar ocean]

would yharim enjoy coke or pepsi more

[tropic oak]

coke. interpret that how you will

[cold owl]

A lot of statements from writers in this very channel mostly

[wanton pendant]

The other doc, which gets its source from me making stuff up and miraculously getting it right.
That's how we know Devouer of Gods' real name is Gary God-Eater.

[cold owl]

Really there's the future and lore doc, and the many writer statements from 3 writers that chat here pretty often.

[odd magnet]

I don’t think a discord channel should be the way to get unfiltered lore though that doesn’t sound right to me

[cold owl]

It will all be in the game eventually. The mod is still very unfinished and a lot of the new lore has yet to be added to the game. So for now, until the next big update this is the best they can really do.

[odd magnet]

I see

[pulsar ocean]

𝙷𝚎'𝚜 𝚕𝚒𝚝𝚎𝚛𝚊𝚕𝚕𝚢 𝚖𝚎

𝙷𝚎 𝚓𝚞𝚜𝚝 𝚕𝚒𝚔𝚎 𝚖𝚎 𝚏𝚛

[dusk laurel]

i smoked 500 cigarettes i think

[tropic oak]

this will change soon

many friends and i myself have been making another lore doc wit hdev statements and sources (thanks melon)

[dusk laurel]

melon gun add ou're sources

[wanton pendant]

What, really, no way?!

[dusk laurel]

i cant wait for the sources to slowly disappear over the years as they begin to get added ingame so we dont have to do that as much

i am NOT looking forward to seeing 10 pages of just sources of dev quotes

[plucky juniper]

This

[pliant ruin]

the humble Message Immediately After That One:

[dusk laurel]

overdone everytime an opportunity for talking about unimplemented lore appears

[wanton pendant]

Saying Discord servers are bad for archivism is like saying nuclear weapons are bad for the environment.
Everyone knows it.

[plucky juniper]

you could say im overdoing it

[dusk laurel]

okay

[wanton pendant]

Ok, that's it.
Banned.

[frank dune]

Yo rt

Gu

[frosty charm]

Guess you could say it's becoming a little... Fuck someone made that joke already. Fuck. I'm such a worthless chud.

[fleet wedge]

What about darksun?

[long bloom]

guessing also nuked

unless there's Dev Plans©

[fleet wedge]

Okay

(Man we really need a thumbs up emoji )

[agile matrix]

yea but its straight from the soul

also some cant understand some story principles and may need it written out

[fleet wedge]

Is the number in the title the version of the document itself or that up to what version of the mod it covers?

Just curious

[broken lion]

game version

[fleet wedge]

Okay 👍

[fleet wedge]

?

[light moth]

Question about Draedon
Would it be possible that he may have created something that looks like him?

[long bloom]

this wording is confusing but if i'm understanding correctly:
yes, he's already made dozens of replica bodies for recon

he shows up to you in one when you contact him

[light moth]

For recon?

[long bloom]

scouting basically

going out to get information and such

[light moth]

No, I mean
Would he make a battle machine/drone and use himself as an inspiration for its’ appearance?

[long bloom]

probably not

he values efficiency above all else

aesthetics are secondary

[light moth]

I am asking this to understand does he have any form of narcissism

[long bloom]

highly unlikely

he only exists to science

[light moth]

I think he doesnt
He is highly rational about everything

[wanton pendant]

He has pride in his work, and if anything that would prevent him from making vanity projects if it would compromise the integrity of his endeavour.

[dense hollow]

How deep is the calamity lore

[light moth]

This needs an iceberg

[fleet wedge]

Like this one?

[wanton pendant]

Literally or figuratively?

[dense hollow]

Wait I have to choose?!

Why not both?!

[wanton pendant]

Azafure is pretty deep.

[split mortar]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[woeful hatch]

Narcissism no, but pride absolutely

The way he talks about exo mechs is not one of unbiased observer but of proud creator

[light moth]

What does this symbol represent (except “Y” in logo name)?

[split mortar]

yharims symbol afaik

[wanton pendant]

I believe that is the literal Yharim's Insignia.

And people still put it on Calamitas' outfit in their fanart.

[split mortar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1384594923898015804.webp?size=48&name=dead2

[light moth]

Oh
Cool
Need to put it in here then

[light moth]

Y-y-yeaaahs

[mighty zenith]

yharim car

auric tesla

[light moth]

Yah

[split mortar]

yharim wtf happened to your car wheres its polygons

[light moth]

No idea when I am going to make something like that with Yharon, Draedon, Scal, DoG, Xeroc…..

Btw
Is it a canon Xeroc’s design?

[woeful hatch]

No

I've never even seen that before

And mango hasnt made ascended Xeroc public (if they even have a design already) to the extent of my knowledge

[light moth]

He made only pre ascension form yeah

[pulsar ocean]

Does yharim own property in heartlands

[split mortar]

thats the fanfic xeroc form from the total calamity wiki iirc

[light moth]

Plus
This one looks too much like Providence in many places

[wanton pendant]

I don't believe that was ever canon.

I mean, it's just Providence by gayer.

[split mortar]

yeah its total calamity design, fanfic

[woeful hatch]

Which is an achievement

[wanton pendant]

I mean, we do see a piece.
The giant sigil in the sky, apparently.
What did they mean by this?

[light moth]

The one that shows up in the bossrush?

[split mortar]

yeah

[light moth]

It is his “eye” apparently

[pulsar ocean]

Does yharim's mask open up so he can eat

[pulsar ocean]

I think that xeroc lives on the sun

[split mortar]

thats old lore afaik

[wanton pendant]

The 'Eye of Xeroc' is a nickname, but it's actually called the Primordial Light Sigil.

[light moth]

But he literally talks to us during bossrush

[long bloom]

correct

[wanton pendant]

Yeah, it's Xeroc.

It's not the chap's eye.

[pulsar ocean]

You don't need an eye in the sky to communicate to people

[long bloom]

the sigil still isn't their actual eyeball

[split mortar]

idk if you know this but people dont tend to talk thrugh their eye

[long bloom]

they don't see through it

[light moth]

Maybe this eye is the way he shows himself without coming to us directly

[wanton pendant]

Again, a dev implied that it is technically part of Xeroc's body... somehow.

[light moth]

That is why I called this as an “eye” metaphorically

[split mortar]

xeroc ascended into being the concept of primordial light clearly

[light moth]

Not physically

[long bloom]

when

[split mortar]

^
mango shenanigans

[pulsar ocean]

When

[wanton pendant]

Here.

[long bloom]

uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[pulsar ocean]

Xeroc is showing us his butt during bossrush

[light moth]

Ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhh

[long bloom]

[split mortar]

triangle wha the fuck

[balmy glacier]

then how da hell is he gonna look like?

[pulsar ocean]

Torch god

[balmy glacier]

what are we even fighting then

[light moth]

The same as Noxus
Unknown

[long bloom]

empress of light recolor

[split mortar]

so part of xeroc is like
bigger then multiple mountainss ?

[balmy glacier]

is he gonna be mostly staying in the background shooting shit or

[light moth]

Theory
Empress of Light is Xeroc’s granddaughter

[split mortar]

killing you

[pulsar ocean]

why do we have to wait for distortion update why can't they just canonize wotg noxus and put him in the mod

[split mortar]

wotg dont even have noxus in it

[wanton pendant]

WotG already retconned their Noxus.

[long bloom]

we got no fuckin clue

[pulsar ocean]

Ok take him from ccr

[split mortar]

xeroc is the sun theory getting more likely ig?????

well no