I assume the ceaseless void moves around and would probably leave after a while
#lore-discussion
wanton pendant
No it's stuck in the Dungeon.
crude musk
Is there a lore reason
wanton pendant
Let me check.
pearl halo
Is there a reason why the bosses tries to kill you
Or is it because we challenge them
wanton pendant
Is there a reason why the bosses tries to kill you
Varies.
frosty charm
Is there a reason why the bosses tries to kill you
Cal thinks you're gonna be Hitler 2 so tries to kill you in a panic fueled breakdown iirc (dialogue ood)
wanton pendant
Draedon, for example, is challenged.
frosty charm
Draedon likes your skills and wants to see you test his mechs
wanton pendant
Yharon wants to kill you.
crude musk
Draedon wants to experiment on you
pearl halo
DoG wants to eat you.
Did... Hundred times
crude musk
Most of the bosses attack you just cause they're hungry
wanton pendant
Providence is mad you killed her girlfriends.
frosty charm
Yharon wants to kill you to prevent you from attacking Yharim, a fight he knows Yharim won't win
crude musk
Or are feeling murderous for no particular reason
frosty charm
And I'll let water wraith say the rest
wanton pendant
Her girlfriends want to kill you to make Providence stronger.
Moon Lord wants to kill everyone.
crude musk
Providence is mad you killed her girlfriends.
Can't she respawn them or is that old lore
wanton pendant
Can't she respawn them or is that old lore
No.
Lunatic Cultist is mad you just murdered his cultists.
Leviathan and Anahita want you to attack them because they want to make the world damper.
Aquatic Scourge did nothing to deserve this.
Mechanical Bosses just like murder.
pearl halo
Mechanical Bosses just like murder.
With a jbl
wanton pendant
Old Duke is racist.
woeful hatch
Mechanical Bosses just like murder.
Don't they chase you down because they think you're a god?
wanton pendant
Polterghast thinks your Yharim.
pearl halo
Aquatic Scourge did nothing to deserve this.
Just as the dessert, wants to survive
wanton pendant
Don't they chase you down because they think you're a god?
Never heard that.
Slime God.
Brimstone Elemental likes murder I guess.
Calamitas Clone is completely insane.
woeful hatch
Never heard that.
"Scouring the land for evidence of the divine.
Unfortunately for you that puts you in their crosshairs. Give them a battle worth dying in. "
Mechanical trio lore item
wanton pendant
Oh, yeah, because you should have killed Wall of Flesh.
crude musk
Also why do the sentinels fight you
wanton pendant
Which was full of the stuff.
crude musk
Weaver is just hungry
wanton pendant
Also why do the sentinels fight you
They're not sentinels.
crude musk
But what does signus have to gain for example
wanton pendant
Storm Weaver is probably just territorial.
pearl halo
Calamitas Clone is completely insane.
I still don't know why that exists
crude musk
They're not sentinels.
It's just their name
magic epoch
I still don't know why that exists
Draedon wanted to recreate Calamitas' power
wanton pendant
I still don't know why that exists
Draedon wanted to make a better forge.
crude musk
Signus wants to gamble.
Based
magic epoch
It failed because Calamitas' power is not natural, instead received from Brimstone Elemental
wanton pendant
Probably.
dusk laurel
cv was turned into a turret by the dragon cult or smth
pearl halo
Draedon wanted to make a better forge.
Stoopid useless robot
magic epoch
And Calamitas freed the clone, also giving it a shred of her power. Which was enough to make it go insane
pearl halo
And Calamitas freed the clone, also giving it a shred of her power. Which was en...
And in the old lore was a machine that evolves through the game or what
woeful hatch
I still don't know why that exists
Essentially, draedon, before being kicked out of the yharmy, was ordered by Yharim to make something to harness the power of Calamitas
He tries cloning her, but since her power wasn't from her biology or anything, she doesn't have powers
Calamitas learns of it and breaks her out, but while doing so, a part of her magic is obtained by the clone, who's driven insane by it
wanton pendant
And in the old lore was a machine that evolves through the game or what
I never remember hearing that.
woeful hatch
Iirc, in old lore she was still a clone of calamitas
pearl halo
I never remember hearing that.
Jusr guessing
woeful hatch
Iirc, in old lore she was still a clone of calamitas
Just sustained by the mechanical "eye" iirc back when the eye form was canon
magic epoch
I believe that the clone used to be a fakeout boss but that's all I got
mighty zenith
im pretty sure the reason why calclone was an eye was literally because calamitas was an eye
magic epoch
something something Summoning it said "Calamitas has awoken," something something defeating said "Calamitas Clone was defeated"
wanton pendant
It used to be named Calamitas, with Supreme Witch, Calamitas being Supreme Calamitas, and the justification for there being two was the first was a fake.
mighty zenith
ancient doomsayer was a boss in the mod
wanton pendant
Then in an update Calamitas was renamed to Calamitas Clone, and Supreme Calamitas to Supreme, Witch, Calamitas.
mighty zenith
nvm a month
river python
Okay
mighty zenith
byeah that's just cdmusic's take on the character basically
wanton pendant
But it is in the soundtrack.
pearl halo
Hate the new yt ui
crude musk
They done reddified it
river python
What would be the demonym of azafure?
wanton pendant
So there's not much to say about 'Voidseeker Leegrid' as the description calls him, and the theme is a concept one, and won't be in the mod.
river python
Azafurians?
wanton pendant
We've been using Azafurian.
river python
What
wanton pendant
It's not actually called Brazil though.
river python
I thought he was a king from a lava-level city?
wanton pendant
Never was.
woeful hatch
Yharim, in OLD lore used to be a tyrant from the jungle
crude musk
Can you handle auric with a mechanical arm?
river python
Can you handle auric with a mechanical arm?
Maybe? Draedon can manipulate it
I suppose
river python
He isnt the creator of the exo Auric armor for Yharim?
crude musk
Yes but he knew the recipe right?
wanton pendant
So the Exo Mechs produced and used it, but he never stabilized.
crude musk
He couldn't get it because he couldn't use aurix
wanton pendant
So you are the first person to properly harness it.
river python
Yes but he knew the recipe right?
To can create something you need to touch the materials
woeful hatch
Yes but he knew the recipe right?
He knew it's existence but not how to stabilize it like we did
Before us, miracle matter was just a slurry of fused exo prisms
crude musk
So we made up the recipe and now draedon can infinitely produce miracle matter now?
Assuming he mines the auric that exists
woeful hatch
No he can't make it
woeful hatch
Assuming he mines the auric that exists
No soul fragments
crude musk
Ok so he can't use it
wanton pendant
And he would also need Yharon's Soul Fragments.
crude musk
Why can't he use auric if it only zaps living creatures
river python
I mean, I've heard the exo Auric armor (Yharim Armor) it's different that the Auric Armor that the player crafts
wanton pendant
Yeah, it's upgraded.
woeful hatch
I mean, I've heard the exo Auric armor (Yharim Armor) it's different that the Au...
First of all, OUR auric is worse than Yharim because we're just making a mock attunement
Secondly, it got upgraded with exo texh
river python
And I've supposed that the one who created the armor for Yharim was Draedon, in that case Draedon should can touch the Auric Ingot
wanton pendant
He might be able to since he may not have a soul.
woeful hatch
First of all, Draedon just upgraded the armor, I don't think we know if he made it in the first place
crude musk
So why can't draedon make miracle matter if he can just mine the auric that exists after you beat yharon
river python
First of all, Draedon just upgraded the armor, I don't think we know if he made ...
So Yharim already had the Auric armor, And Draedon just upgraded it?
wanton pendant
Yes.
woeful hatch
Yeah
river python
Could make sense
woeful hatch
So why can't draedon make miracle matter if he can just mine the auric that exis...
Just because he can touch it doesn't mean it's usable for him
crude musk
What does that mean exactly
river python
So he can touch it, but don't use it?
wanton pendant
Hard to use.
woeful hatch
What does that mean exactly
He still can't attune to it
crude musk
I don't understand
woeful hatch
Alright so
crude musk
If it's a metal it should just do the things it's supposed to do
river python
He still can't attune to it
The problem of the Auric Ingot, it's that you explode if you touch, without being attuned, right?
river python
Aha, thats what i always believed
woeful hatch
The problem of the Auric Ingot, it's that you explode if you touch, without bein...
That is part of it, but I don't think anyone knows how it works when it's not attuned with a dragon soul
It could easily have different properties
crude musk
Oh so the metal needs to be attuned
Then why didn't draedon ask yharim to just supply him with attuned auric
wanton pendant
Why would Yharim say yes?
woeful hatch
Oh so the metal needs to be attuned
Yes
Normally, it's via sharing a deep soul bond with a dragon (like Yharim did)
We made a "mock" attunement with fragments of souls of yharon
river python
Soo? Like Uhh.. Aerielite?
crude musk
Why would Yharim say yes?
Because he had auric when they were still allies
wanton pendant
Yes, and he was wearing it.
river python
Enabled Aerielite and Disabled Aerielite
crude musk
Yeah but was that all of the auric?
wanton pendant
Can you find any more?
river python
You only can use the Auric if You're attuned so the Auric enables?
Or something like that?
crude musk
Can you find any more?
Yeah in the ground after you defeat yharon
wanton pendant
Using the Soul Fragments disables the Auric's ability to reject.
crude musk
But would the aerie contain some
wanton pendant
Being properly attuned to an Auric Dragon keeps the ability, but leaves you immune.
wanton pendant
But would the aerie contain some
Who knows.
gritty kraken
Yeah in the ground after you defeat yharon
Pretty sure they were always there they just don’t want to have auric ores around in pre hm
river python
But would the aerie contain some
Aerie should generate Auric without defeating any Dragon
wanton pendant
Pretty sure they were always there they just don’t want to have auric ores aroun...
No, it's spawned in by defeating Yharon.
wanton pendant
Because he's wearing all the Auric we know existed at the time.
If there's more, we don't know where it is.
crude musk
Ok so it's not in the aerie
gritty kraken
all ore spawns are canon
wack
crude musk
I was a lil confused about that
river python
We know another city? In the lore?
wanton pendant
Yeah.
river python
Not counting the Midas one and Azafure?
wanton pendant
Midas?
crude musk
Amidias
river python
Oh
crude musk
Illimeris is what it was called
wanton pendant
The civilzations we know about are Azafure, Chrysadia, and Ilmeris, all are destroyed.
wanton pendant
There's also a 'Crystal City' in Ibipaua (Fantasy Brazil (probably)).
No we do not know anything about it.
And I guess the Lihzahrd are still there.
Also Vernal Pass.
Underground houses are probably the remains of some.
crude musk
A calamity addon or separate mod altogether where you play as yharim would be so sick
Maybe our great grandchildren will get to experience that
wanton pendant
At that point just make a fangame.
crude musk
One is being made right?
wanton pendant
Yes but not where you play as Yharim.
reef nova
Yes but not where you play as Yharim.
Wait what
a fangame of calamity is being made???
mighty zenith
yhim
reef nova
I shall check for myself
balmy glacier
lore discussion
vocal kestrel
Reign of Yharim.
That seems so dead
pulsar ocean
That seems so dead
does it
split mortar
That seems so dead
Wha?
reef nova
Where can I find everyhing about Vetrasyl?
reef nova
Where can I find everyhing about Vetrasyl?
I need as much info on him as possible cuz I wanna try to make a chatbot of him
gritty kraken
I sthink bro might like dragons but I’m not sure
Searching the name in chat and look for dev messages might work tho
reef nova
I sthink bro might like dragons but I’m not sure
Searching the name in chat and...
Yes I like dragons very very much
I have Yharon's plushie
and even Crimson Fatalis' from Monster Hunter
anyway
good idea
ty
split mortar
and even Crimson Fatalis' from Monster Hunter
@omni
split mortar
Omni is a mh lore nerd
reef nova
what is it that you are...planning?
reef nova
Omni is a mh lore nerd
Oh
W rizz
I've been looking to play MH together with someone
Anywya
Lea
what do you know about our best boy Vetrasyl?
Is he even a male or am I just downright misgendering him?
pulsar ocean
Where can I find everyhing about Vetrasyl?
i think vetrasyl is
stupid and irrelevant
and he stinks
and i fucking hate him
reef nova
HUUUUUUUH???
gritty kraken
what do you know about our best boy Vetrasyl?
he was on fovos way and he die
pulsar ocean
you will
pulsar ocean
thats not cool
reef nova
Yea
pulsar ocean
but its ok if thats what you want
reef nova
you bet it isn't
reef nova
but its ok if thats what you want
It is what I want
split mortar
what do you know about our best boy Vetrasyl?
Gotta go to class in like 3-4 mins so ill get to you on that once im home in some time
reef nova
Gotta go to class in like 3-4 mins so ill get to you on that once im home in som...
Aight, sure, thank you Lea
😁
pulsar ocean
Aight, sure, thank you Lea
more and more people calling them lea channel
pulsar ocean
like the guy
reef nova
Na but fr I'm too lazy
pulsar ocean
on youtube
reef nova
on youtube
No
split mortar
more and more people calling them lea channel
True
As time goes on more new people join this chat and just see the lea channel nickname ig
reef nova
not like the hit animator Oddonesout
reef nova
True
As time goes on more new people join this chat and just see the lea channel...
I just do whatever is shorter and makes sense
Can't be bothered to type extra letters and risk a typo
pulsar ocean
why dont we have basic human rights here like changing server nickname
split mortar
Can't be bothered to type extra letters and risk a typo
The devious my accounts called melon gun
reef nova
The devious my accounts called melon gun
Exquisite 
reef nova
why dont we have basic human rights here like changing server nickname
Blame it on Yharim like everyone else
Fawk Yharim
pulsar ocean
dead channel
cloud ibex
why dont we have basic human rights here like changing server nickname
because we do not trust the average user
if you want a nickname change it is literally as simple as asking
daring pine
and if mods want to ssy no to your nickname, it is literally as simple as just saying no
mighty zenith
you'd have to make a nickname that breaks the server rules for a mod to say no
at worst a mod will just not reply because they're busy atm
feral skiff
if you want a nickname change it is literally as simple as asking
can you please rename me to “xXSupremeCalamitas9001Xx” please????
(i am not joking. do it)
cloud ibex
it is unpossible
feral skiff
thanks
split mortar
O cool
reef nova
s
split mortar
Who si Umbrasyl
Some character from critical role
reef nova
Verbose is like
A way of talking
I see
split mortar
Do you know where this vetrasyl echo thing us
reef nova
The way you say this
it motivates me to build some lore myself
Too bad I'm too lazy to do it and the only way I'll be doing it is probably thru ai chat bots ✌️
cosmic zenith
Do you know where this vetrasyl echo thing us
Will get it rn
cosmic zenith
I just find it cool
Thanks! Looking back, I'm really happy with it
reef nova
I need that Vetrasyl echo to try making the bot
Stipulate please bring us good news
🙏
cosmic zenith
reef nova
Oh yeha that reminds me
@split mortar Lea, you said you'd uh
tell me all you know about Vetrasyl for the bot I wanna make
reef nova
tell me all you know about Vetrasyl for the bot I wanna make
planning to put some real effort into this one 
cosmic zenith
Heres two stuff i found so far
Vetrasyl is presented as particularly verbose and elegant because that is the bearing I found to be fitting of an Auric Dragon
tropic oak
sylvetra
reef nova
Vetrasyl is presented as particularly verbose and elegant because that is the be...
How silly is he on a scale of 1-10
cosmic zenith
They are proud creatures
They know deep down that they are paragons of unfathomable power
It leans towards a sense of responsibility (in rarer cases, even servitude) more often than arrogance, but it's still there
cosmic zenith
He was drawn as more gooberish in earlier designs, but he's not much of a goober as a character
Definitely more casual than other Dragons but not actually silly
reef nova
He was drawn as more gooberish in earlier designs, but he's not much of a goober...
I see
so like
you can casually banter with him
without being afraid of getting absolutely obliterated
cosmic zenith
Yeah
reef nova
What are his personality traits?
If I may inquire.
I'm thinking of what scenarios I should use for this bot but without remembering much calamity lore— I don't think it'll work out 😅
Gonna have to read it again probably
cosmic zenith
I'd rather not reveal too much
That said, fortunately there will be some Vetrasyl content in SSO
There's also more Dragon stuff I'm working on for the future
reef nova
I'd rather not reveal too much
That said, fortunately there will be some Vetrasy...
What's SSO?
cosmic zenith
Sunken Sea Overhaul
The upcoming update
reef nova
ooooh
Aight
Will we get stuff like hints at his personality, if you can reveal that?
Uhh am I asking too much?
I'm sorry if I am
cosmic zenith
Will we get stuff like hints at his personality, if you can reveal that?
In the update, or rn?
reef nova
update
cosmic zenith
Yes
reef nova
Yippe
reef nova
Yes
Do you know how close Vetrasyl conceot art is to being finished or...
Asking because I don't wanna get a plushie of an unfinished Vetrasyl so the two won't look completely different from eachother
cosmic zenith
Do you know how close Vetrasyl conceot art is to being finished or...
It's in the finishing touches afaik
The image sent earlier is accurate
reef nova
Oh
so you think I should hold it for a little longer then?
Since it's in the finishing touches I'm guessing we'll get it by the end of the year?
real glen
mmm
wanton pendant
Lore?
split mortar
All of em getting resprited
reef nova
All of em getting resprited
I really like how Heavenly gale looks rn
but I'd love to see how they make the resprite
The only thing I don't like out of the sprites is the exo-blade
just doesn't look allat to me personally
split mortar
@dusk laurel do you got the heavenly gale resprite or is that not public
split mortar
the new miracle matter?
Yeah the new miracle matter vibe one
dusk laurel
idk if i can show the other one but this is the heavily wip one
split mortar
idk if i can show the other one but this is the heavily wip one
Thanks vanillin
@reef nova
reef nova
idk if i can show the other one but this is the heavily wip one
mmmm
can't say much since it is heavily wip as you said
Yes, Lea?
dusk laurel
magnomaly cannon replacement
reef nova
Will you tell me what you know of Vetrasyl, perhaps???
cosmic zenith
Since it's in the finishing touches I'm guessing we'll get it by the end of the ...
Hopefully
split mortar
Will you tell me what you know of Vetrasyl, perhaps???
Stip is the main writer for vetrasyl so thats like all i know as well
cosmic zenith
Yeah, I do advise waiting
cosmic zenith
Stip is the main writer for vetrasyl so thats like all i know as well
I am practically the only writer for Vetrasyl so far
reef nova
magnomaly cannon replacement
Hmmmm
wanton pendant
Here's your lore:
Vetrasyl is dead.
split mortar
The dragons gay as fuck
reef nova
Here's your lore:
Vetrasyl is dead.
robust osprey
vetrasyl is very dead
split mortar
Stip is vetrasyl gay
robust osprey
got killed by yuri
robust osprey
he looks gay tho
reef nova
Stip is the main writer for vetrasyl so thats like all i know as well
Siiigh, hm........
cosmic zenith
Only Rebecca/Madeline have worked on Vetrasyl as well, since Otonilou is their character, though it was no more than tweaks/suggestions
reef nova
Yea idk how to make this bot, I have a few scenarios in mind, but idk how to make Vetrasyl himself
cosmic zenith
Stip is vetrasyl gay
I don't picture him as such but headcanon as you wish
robust osprey
vetrasyl x zeratros
reef nova
vetrasyl x zeratros
split mortar
I don't picture him as such but headcanon as you wish
GAY GAY GAY HOMOSEXUAL GAY
cosmic zenith
vetrasyl x zeratros
Flashlight ship real
split mortar
Flashlight ship real
😭
robust osprey
Flashlight ship real
🔥
cosmic zenith
This reminds me of Deltarune and Silksong
dusk laurel
sunshower
reef nova
Flashlight ship real
dusk laurel
what
split mortar
Sunshower
reef nova
sunshower
I thought you referenced to a certain game I know
nevermind
don't worry about it
cosmic zenith
Vetrasyl and Flame Dragon toxic yaoi
reef nova
Vetrasyl and Flame Dragon toxic yaoi
✌️
wanton pendant
Vetrasyl did have children, of course this isn't hard proof that he wasn't gay (we don't know if the Auric Dragons were homophobic).
reef nova
Vetrasyl did have children, of course this isn't hard proof that he wasn't gay (...
Vetrasyl had kids?
split mortar
Vetrasyl and Flame Dragon toxic yaoi
Zaelithar yaoi…
split mortar
Vetrasyl had kids?
Wyverns exist so yes
dusk laurel
wyverns are the descendents of vetrasyl
reef nova
Wyverns exist so yes
Oh, wyverns
reef nova
Vetrasyl did have children, of course this isn't hard proof that he wasn't gay (...
Dragon of Flames probably was
robust osprey
not that one zeratros discussion again but with vetrasyl
reef nova
idk he just kinda seems like it
cosmic zenith
Speaking of which
Vetrasyl has some really neat parallels with the Flame Dragon, though the latter will be explored a bit further into development
Flame Dragon only gets a very obscure reference in SSO
wanton pendant
Dragon of Flame got killed by the LGBT (but evil).
dusk laurel
Speaking of which
Vetrasyl has some really neat parallels with the Flame Dragon,...
gulp...
reef nova
Speaking of which
Vetrasyl has some really neat parallels with the Flame Dragon,...
Hooray
split mortar
not that one zeratros discussion again but with vetrasyl
The moderation in this server exists so no that aint happening as badly
cosmic zenith
Yeah let's move on
robust osprey
evil homophobic gets killed by evil polyamorous yuri
reef nova
The moderation in this server exists so no that aint happening as badly
I wish to know what happened
robust osprey
you do not
wanton pendant
Well, there are some implications there.
So how about a better question, who built the Dungeon?
split mortar
I would get killed
I wonder how vetrasyls storm powers worked
reef nova
Speaking of which
Vetrasyl has some really neat parallels with the Flame Dragon,...
Like, do their ideals or something like that clash?
wanton pendant
Do you know who Ridley is?
reef nova
I would get killed
I wonder how vetrasyls storm powers worked
Good question
reef nova
Do you know who Ridley is?
Yea
wanton pendant
I rest my case.
reef nova
Uuhhhh okay
cosmic zenith
Like, do their ideals or something like that clash?
It's a bit deeper than that
reef nova
It's a bit deeper than that
Oh damn
cosmic zenith
Well, there are some implications there.
So how about a better question, who bui...
🤐
reef nova
yes, we love to see big drama between the auric dragons
Hmmmm
I'm assuming you aren't allowed to reveal it, but I'll ask just incase anyway
what would be Vetrasyl's likes and dislikes?
one would be good
wanton pendant
He probably liked Chrysadia.
reef nova
He probably liked Chrysadia.
Who dat? Me new to calamity lore
reef nova
Just like half the things within the lore
Probably exxagarating though
frosty charm
Hello chat
wanton pendant
Hello.
robust osprey
Probably exxagarating though
"half" is a understatement
reef nova
Hello chat
Hey
reef nova
"half" is a understatement
Zamn
wanton pendant
Like half the planet was killed in the last 106 years.
robust osprey
all the auric dragons dead (-1), most of the gods dead, the 3 big cities dead with a few survivors
like 300 million people died iirc
wanton pendant
That's just from direct warfare.
robust osprey
yup
split mortar
Yharim killed a fuck ton of people
cosmic zenith
all the auric dragons dead (-1), most of the gods dead, the 3 big cities dead wi...
(In this continent)
wanton pendant
Chrysadia wasn't a victim of the Crusade (long gone by then), Azafure was a city state, and Ilmeris was a whole kingdom.
robust osprey
yeah but the lore talks about heartlands
wanton pendant
Everywhere sucks, Heartlands makes everywhere else look like it's relatively fine.
reef nova
Yiiikes
wanton pendant
With the whole ground zero of the crusade thing.
reef nova
Everywhere sucks, Heartlands makes everywhere else look like it's relatively fin...
contrary to it's name
robust osprey
world is fucked up but heartlands is the most fucked up
wanton pendant
That's not its name.
reef nova
Oh
wanton pendant
The continent is the name of the world you enter when starting a playthrough.
split mortar
Heartlands is a nickname to refer to the continent we play on
reef nova
Heartlands is a nickname to refer to the continent we play on
Oooooh
split mortar
Heartlands is a nickname to refer to the continent we play on
Because yeah the continent is actually named whatever you put the world name as
Theres a timeline of calamity where the heartlands is called blushful patch of legs
robust osprey
I think I will travel to The Niche of Suffering
reef nova
Would any of you have any suggestions for the scenario for my Vetrasyl bot?
I was thinking something along the lines; he takes you in as his disciple or something
still thinking
split mortar
Unlikely due to vocal cords
reef nova
Not sure how Xeroc and Zeratros communicated between themselves
split mortar
Unlikely due to vocal cords
Tho its not impossible for a man to know draconic and for dragons to know other languages
Or telepathy
reef nova
There is at least 1 telepathic dragon
Oh
So
Dragons CAN use telepathy?
well
atleast Yharon could?
split mortar
Yeah seemingly
split mortar
:sob
split mortar
is it really that weird
No its not i find it funny
reef nova
No its not i find it funny
I seeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
fleet wedge
insert Gerson Deltarune gif here
Speaking of commissions, you know Triangle did commissions someday? 
reef nova
Again with a question
What would be the rough estimate of Yharon's size?
I need to have something to go off of when it comes to size for Vetrasyl
prime mauve
more than 2 inches
reef nova
more than 2 inches
Massive
Now
how much is it in centimeters?
5
euuuuuugh
what a pain
split mortar
I need to have something to go off of when it comes to size for Vetrasyl
A single pixel is 3 inches (or 1.5 inch if you use a editing software terraria weird)
You can count the pixels
reef nova
A single pixel is 3 inches (or 1.5 inch if you use a editing software terraria w...
HAHAHAH INSANITY YES
fuck it
I'll do it
I'll take one for the team ✌️
split mortar
Id have sent a better image but couldnt find it
Yharon is comparable to DoGs head (the resprite one for both)
reef nova
yk
it'd be really fuckign cool
if he wasn't in a weird pose
like
if only he could just
yk
be on all fours
split mortar
Sadly not the case
dusk laurel
hes bipedal
reef nova
hes bipedal
deadass?
dusk laurel
the arms and legs are distinctly different
reef nova
You mean to tell me he's just strolling around on two legs like a human?
dusk laurel
uh
reef nova
Yeah
dusk laurel
lots of birds and dinosaurs were bipedal
so its not a stretch for some dragons to be aswell
reef nova
lots of birds and dinosaurs were bipedal
Fair
but I'm having a hard time imagining Yharon just
yk
being bipedal
long bloom
he's been bipedal since 2018
reef nova
maybe I'm just stupid
split mortar
random mulch
the eternal mines
faint totem
I could imagine him sometimes going on all fours
visual kiln
didnt fabsol comm dia for the current one
split mortar
Think so idk
visual kiln
wonder how the comm’s doing now that fabsol’s dead
random mulch
i pray that the mines will run empty this time around
reef nova
A single pixel is 3 inches (or 1.5 inch if you use a editing software terraria w...
I counted the pixels on his foot a little over it
dusk laurel
What happened to his wings
concept art
reef nova
it's 36 if I'm correct
3 x 36 = 108 inches
108 inches = 274 cm
which is already one and a half times bigger than me
isn't that cool
😭
reef nova
it's 36 if I'm correct
Of course, that is, if I used the right method
The method was infact, this
reef nova
won't work well
I'm aware
i don't have much of a better idea though
I just wanted a rough estimate
but it's gonna take me a bit
Orios
dusk laurel
reef nova
you got any better ideas?
dusk laurel
little comparison
random mulch
you were off by a good amount it seems
reef nova
I'll just count the pixels on the guide and stack them on top of eachother
reef nova
you were off by a good amount it seems
Yeeeeeeeah
figured
this is why I don't usually do stuff like this
😭
reef nova
you were off by a good amount it seems
how do you even do this
random mulch
took the spoiler, halved the size to make the pixels 1x1, cropped the size and then just checked the layer height
reef nova
took the spoiler, halved the size to make the pixels 1x1, cropped the size and t...
uhhhhhhhhh
can you do that with the whole spoiler or
random mulch
reef nova
Ty
but we gotta deduce the outspread wings
I think
My guess is uhhhhh
without the wings he'd be uhhhhhhhhh
Around 250 pixels???????
Actually no
prolly more
wait no
less
dusk laurel
the top of his body excluding the wings would be the crest so thats a reference point
reef nova
yea
random mulch
reef nova
My rough guess is 180 pixels
holy shit I was ctaulyl close
I should buy a lottery ticket
time to pull out the calculator
522 inches me thinks
1325 cm
10 times bigger than me
wowzers
jolly edge
sounds about right
reef nova
as for width it's probably somewhere around 240 pixels (The appendages I didn't count since I don't think they're constantly flowing) from tail to horn
720 inches
reef nova
720 inches
keep in mind it's a guessed amount
60 feet
1828 cm
conclusion
Yharon is ABOUT 43ft tall and 60ft wide
reef nova
Yharon is ABOUT 43ft tall and 60ft wide
not entirely sold on the width though
Ah, I didn't notice his tail is slightly curled
reef nova
60 feet
If it's from the horn to appendages it's 68 ft
ahhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuggghhh
thanks for the help everyone
Now I just gotta throw a wild guess for Vetrasyl's height and width
I'll go ahead and assume he's smaller than Yharon idk why
My guess issss
24 feet tall and 46ft wide
eugh idk
reef nova
Think I'm just about done with describing Vetrasyl's appearance adn a teeny bit of his personality
next would be adding the important stuff like explainign to the llm what an auric dragon actually is
defo the easier part of the whole thing
reef nova
defo the easier part of the whole thing
nevermind I don't know anymore
Had to search it up but it's done
reef nova
It'd be cool to see Other Auric dragons' inspired weapons
pulsar ocean
It'd be cool to see Other Auric dragons' inspired weapons
Are you talking to yourself
pulsar ocean
Think I'm just about done with describing Vetrasyl's appearance adn a teeny bit ...
He doesn't have a personality he existed solely because the plot needed an extra god for yharim's kill count
reef nova
He doesn't have a personality he existed solely because the plot needed an extra...
Just like Minos
pulsar ocean
Just like Minos
Minos at least appears in the game and has dialogue
reef nova
Minos at least appears in the game and has dialogue
before getting walked on by V1 never to be seen again
💔
pulsar ocean
before getting walked on by V1 never to be seen again
Yeah and vetrasyl is never seen ever
reef nova
Yeah and vetrasyl is never seen ever
I saw him on the concept art
light linden
@cosmic zenith got a sec?
reef nova
it counts
cosmic zenith
Yep
light linden
He doesn't have a personality he existed solely because the plot needed an extra...
this true?
pulsar ocean
this true?
💔
split mortar
Stip used to just have vetrasyl as their nickname in the server
long bloom
and pfp
reef nova
Stip used to just have vetrasyl as their nickname in the server
Ooooh so that was him?
pulsar ocean
why did the lea channel revive after I decided to slander vetrasyl
reef nova
why did the lea channel revive after I decided to slander vetrasyl
because gay i think
split mortar
why did the lea channel revive after I decided to slander vetrasyl
Mark E vs Popcorn hunger games has given me new life
pulsar ocean
Mark E vs Popcorn hunger games has given me new life
What's your favorite auric dragon melongun
split mortar
Frisk the dragon of courage
pulsar ocean
Frisk the dragon of courage
sounds cool
cosmic zenith
He doesn't have a personality he existed solely because the plot needed an extra...
Yeah because we definitely would make characters solely for the sake of a kill count riiiight
Where's the joy in that?
reef nova
Frisk the dragon of courage
I really like Sans the dragon of determination
cosmic zenith
Also I'm decently sure Vetrasyl precedes Otonilou's creation
cosmic zenith
There is at least 1 telepathic dragon
(All Auric Dragons can communicate telepathically with their attuned partner if they have one)
reef nova
Also I'm decently sure Vetrasyl precedes Otonilou's creation
Stip, how open was Vetrasyl to uh
taking in strangers and stuff to take care of them
incase they were wounded or something along the lines of that
snow mountain
why is this necessary lore
reef nova
why is this necessary lore
It's not, but I wanna make a chatbot
split mortar
Frisk the dragon of courage
Tho if we on about base calamity auric dragons only then gloomborf
snow mountain
☹️
reef nova
also I'm jus curious how Vetrasyl acted
pulsar ocean
why didn't yharim call out for yharon while he was getting beaten up by braelor and statis
cosmic zenith
Ooooh so that was him?
For a good while I used the name as a sort of homage
Then I figured out I didn't have to stick solely to Vetrasyl lol
pulsar ocean
Frisk the dragon of courage
Did you made them up or it's rp rot
cosmic zenith
I feel like you might be trying to make a chatbot with too little public information
snow mountain
also whats the point
split mortar
Did you made them up or it's rp rot
Rp rot
Frisk (courage) into the god of blades
snow mountain
https://tenor.com/view/silksong-chef-lugoli-gif-2755250717969461877
is that the bug with a fat ass
reef nova
I feel like you might be trying to make a chatbot with too little public informa...
I don't really know where to find it
i mean
cosmic zenith
is that the bug with a fat ass
Nah it's her underling
reef nova
I guess I could search thru pins
cosmic zenith
Yeah but there isn't much revealed to begin with
snow mountain
making a chatbot based on an unknown is kinda a
pulsar ocean
Rp rot
Frisk (courage) into the god of blades
Are they a yharim victim
snow mountain
waste of effort
reef nova
waste of effort
I get where you're coming from
split mortar
Are they a yharim victim
Sasaki actually fended off yharims forces and is still alive
snow mountain
sausage
pulsar ocean
Sasaki actually fended off yharims forces and is still alive
Rp rot is showing
reef nova
buuut I just like the idea of Vetrasyl, if that makes sense
split mortar
Sasaki actually fended off yharims forces and is still alive
Granted prob dying to virela at some point in the future
pulsar ocean
<:GokuBigStare:1214405338770448424>
it was addressed to melon gun
pulsar ocean
Granted prob dying to virela at some point in the future
who
reef nova
it was addressed to melon gun
split mortar
Virela
split mortar
Rp only chatacter
pulsar ocean
Guessed so
frosty charm
Also I'm decently sure Vetrasyl precedes Otonilou's creation
like lore wise or development wise
cosmic zenith
Development wise
snow mountain
terminator jellyfish
frosty charm
😿 im just a stupid little chud... ignore me... sigh...
snow mountain
fuck my stupid chud life
reef nova
😿 im just a stupid little chud... ignore me... sigh...
Literally me twin
✌️
I'm gone now goodnight everyone who reads this
pulsar ocean
I'm gone now goodnight everyone who reads this
Goodnight
magic epoch
so you guys have heard how the terrarian is you
north root
no
north root
i told my therapist about "the terrarian is you"
magic epoch
toshi go to the terrarian is you server
dusk laurel
so you guys have heard how the terrarian is you
jaunty wraith
So do we know the lore of the aether?
jaunty wraith
We recently got a song and the title is inteesting
soft geyser
Hallo chat
-# Wow it feels weird to chat in calmain for after such a long time..
Anyways
Chat
Would you consider draedron into an artificial elemental?
Because I sure do
soft geyser
Why you might ask well….
First of all an elemental control a field of nature. Silva controls well nature, Brimmy with the magma and all of that. Anahita with the liquids and then Sand elemental being like an earth elemental sub class same with cloud elemental but of the air elemental iirc.
Secondly these bitches are hard to kill like oh my lord are they hard to kill… not game wise because duh. But lore wise these guys are almost unkillable as they can only truly die if that elemental is gone from the planet.
Thirdly… They are a hivemindish like they can switch their main conscious from point A to point B. As long there is that element left in the world.
This is the main criteria’s I think of a
Element
There is probably more
And now let’s see what draedron falls under
distant smelt
I mean firstly it’s probably incredibly possible to kill draedon so long as you can actually find him with sufficient firepower
long bloom
you can't "find him"
he's everywhere
like a fungus that took over the whole continent
he has probably hundreds of backups of himself
soft geyser
The first point of having control over a part of the earth/nature. well this is the only one which I believe is a stretch. As technology is technically not a natural part of the world.. Yet I think it is so abundant that it has infect became part of the world. As without technology there is so much that is just gone. Also, Draedron limit is seemingly the limit of science so…. He could also be the elemental of science which is natural in the world. Yet this is the only reason I want to say he is an artificial elemental not a natural one as technology is not natural.
The second point of is that draedron is unkillable as he can/has stretch his conscious mind across the entire technology he has made where he his conscious is not in one body rather a whole lot.
Third he does have a that ability to change his main consciousness because he can stretch his mind across any technology.
Oh my lord did that take long
soft geyser
I mean firstly it’s probably incredibly possible to kill draedon so long as you ...
He is… not something you find he is everywhere
brazen coral
I mean firstly it’s probably incredibly possible to kill draedon so long as you ...
he's actually incredibly easy to kill
the game has a script that will actively make your attacks deal MORE damage if they somehow didn't instantly kill him
the issue is that you can't kill him faster than he can build more copies of himself
long bloom
that was a shitty recon body that was probably falling apart
also gameplay mechanics ≠ lore
brazen coral
it's still representative of how little of an existential threat he views the player as
If anything Draedon sees the player as a comrade or acquaintance.
long bloom
that is true
soft geyser
it's still representative of how little of an existential threat he views the pl...
Yo is that the lizard from ror2?
soft geyser
[lemStare](https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1279975978994765857.webp?size=48&na...
It is!?!?!!?!
soft geyser
If anything Draedon sees the player as a comrade or acquaintance.
I thought he saw the player as a guinea pig
soft geyser
But we're his favorite guinea pig <3
I mean we are the only one who give consent
He is probably like
WHAT THE FUCK
THIS GUY WANTD TO BE EXPERIMENT ON
I JUST HIT THE JACKPOT
JARVIS CLIP THAT
Anyways
Do you agree that draedron is an artificial elemental
jaunty wraith
Isn't that an oxymoron?
soft geyser
Isn't that an oxymoron?
I mean artificial thing can control elements
Like we use technology to control lighting
feral skiff
Do you agree that draedron is an artificial elemental
that’s.. not how it works..
soft geyser
that’s.. not how it works..
Ok the elemental of technology fits better ig
frosty charm
how lonely do you think xeroc is
if i had to guess hes probably less lonely than yharim but more lonely than like braelor in the distortion
isolationscaling
balmy glacier
probably does not care about socialising
frosty charm
i mean he seems pretty talkative in boss rush
not like he does his job much anyways he's gotta do something to fill that void
frosty charm
If anything Draedon sees the player as a comrade or acquaintance.
itd probably stay that way no matter what since i dont think draedon views much of anyone as a threat
frosty charm
yo
pliant ruin
how lonely do you think xeroc is
He's probably pretty lonely
He's like thousands of years old and idk if he really has any friends
frosty charm
That's what I'm saying
pliant ruin
Everyone he knew when he was a mortal is dead now 'cept for Yharon and that guy uh
hates his guts and is evil now
frosty charm
I'm making him joyful and curious with my interpretation
frosty charm
I'm making him joyful and curious with my interpretation
I imagine he wants someone to talk to so he tries to befriend those he finds interesting
real silo
over 800 likely
wanton pendant
Xeroc has been a god for 850 years so let's call it at around 900 years old.
snow mountain
literally any number of centuries works tbh, its all up to the player
like how
the terrarian...
is
you
frosty charm
Xeroc is 12
snow mountain
Xeroc is 12
plausable tbf
reef nova
If anything Draedon sees the player as a comrade or acquaintance.
That actually sounds kinda nice
split mortar
how lonely do you think xeroc is
Probably lonely as fuck the guy talks to like literally no one most likely
graceful falcon
whats the lore surrounding signus
cloud ibex
faustian rat bastard from the distortion
uses statis as his host to interact with the normal world
the potential to become a similar entity to noxus, whatever the hell that may mean
graceful falcon
oh
split mortar
The name is outdated signus is not a dog lackey
split mortar
You gotta summon him
Summon who
feral skiff
why do we have something open-ended in the lore.. the terrain..
mighty zenith
🐴
its open ended because the terrarian is a completely customizable character in a sandbox game
distant smelt
Terrarian who gets sick of being attacked for the rune of kos and throws it into the dungeon
alpine jetty
soft geyser
Beep
frosty charm
Terrarian who gets sick of being attacked for the rune of kos and throws it into...
The envoys fight over it in an old cartoon dust cloud of punches n shit
random mulch
working on yet another thing have this very conveniently cropped snippet
young socket
working on yet another thing have this very conveniently cropped snippet
dragon to god chart
random mulch
ye
split mortar
The fucks the agnus art sob
soft geyser
The envoys fight over it in an old cartoon dust cloud of punches n shit
They do?
pulsar ocean
could anyone remind me what is the terrarian's lore
cloud ibex
no
pulsar ocean
awwww
pulsar ocean
working on yet another thing have this very conveniently cropped snippet
is the agnus art the guy from overlord
random mulch
dusk laurel
is the agnus art the guy from overlord
what are you talking about
random mulch
undecorated
pulsar ocean
what are you talking about
i thought of that guy when i saw the little bit of the agnus art
balmy glacier
undecorated
im pretty sure flame dragon has a name somewhere here or in poiler channel… zaelithar i believe🤔
soft geyser
undecorated
So these are all the lore canon gods?
soft geyser
It is just I have never heard of tyrain
That’s why
I was just confused on that part
random mulch
im pretty sure flame dragon has a name somewhere here or in poiler channel… zael...
is a tentitive name and not final
cloud ibex
im pretty sure flame dragon has a name somewhere here or in poiler channel… zael...
yea but that's not really set in stone i think
balmy glacier
got it
random mulch
Just not tyrain
tyrian is the sea god mentioned in amidias' bestiary entry
soft geyser
tyrian is the sea god mentioned in amidias' bestiary entry
Oh yea…
I forgor about that
cloud ibex
yea but that's not really set in stone i think
the dragon of life i believe is also in a similar camp in terms of name
random mulch
cloud ibex
undecorated
i feel like it's worth mentioning how ravager's domain is special because he didn't really inherit it from a god, he inherited it from agnus
soft geyser
We should add deus to it after all he is preached like a god
graceful falcon
deus doesnt use an auric soul for its power tho
random mulch
We should add deus to it after all he is preached like a god <:ultimatesmug:8074...
not good enough
one thing i kinda wonder
so gods have their sigils floating behind them right
wanton pendant
Yeah.
random mulch
do dragons have those as well
wanton pendant
Maybe.
random mulch
wonder what the sigil for rebirth is then
wanton pendant
Like, hypothetically, the sigils could represent the domain rather than the actual individual.
graceful falcon
not good enough
he is a god tho
wanton pendant
No.
wanton pendant
Like, Xeroc has a sigil in his human form. The 'Primordial Light Sigil'.
random mulch
would yharim also have a sigil floating behind him then
wanton pendant
So my theory is that the sigils are domain related, so not actually a god exclusive thing.
Well, I'm not fully sure on why Xeroc has the sigil.
I have theories.
graceful falcon
but doesn't fit calamity's definition of a god
it says in his lore item explicitly that he is a god
wanton pendant
It is stated explicity that he's not.
And Yharim is canonically bad at biology.
Astrum Deus is a species of space worms.
That's why Astrum Deus is 'guiltless'.
Because it isn't a god.
graceful falcon
ohhh
soft geyser
deus doesnt use an auric soul for its power tho
Oh It is a joke of mine basically deus is prayed upon like a god like an how actual gods are prayed to hence making him a “god”. Not an auric one but just a god that was prayed by the astral
That what I mean
Hence
this emoji
Because I use it as sarcasmwtuc jokes
cloud ibex
it says in his lore item explicitly that he is a god
no yharim very explicitly states that deus isn't a god in the sense cal uses the word
pearl halo
Did somebody said lore
wanton pendant
Probably.
pearl halo
Finally
snow mountain
calamity lore but its part of the wuxia genre
manic coral
i feel like it's worth mentioning how ravager's domain is special because he did...
is this a joke comment because i have no idea what the hell you're talking about
manic coral
who in the WORLD is "agnus"
cloud ibex
the god of sacrifices
cloud ibex
i was too lazy to refer to him by his full name, title, government occupation, personal ip and social security number
split mortar
who in the WORLD is "agnus"
😭
woeful hatch
who in the WORLD is "agnus"
random mulch
lore
snow mountain
wheres keves
prime mauve
L unknown domains
random mulch
11 known gods yet only 4 known sigils 😔
also 11 dragons but only 2 public designs 😔
snow mountain
agnus makes me think of xenoblade 3 i can't stop myself
feral skiff
why is the bestiary entry for Yharon actually peak
“he who made his kind eternal through his powers of Rebirth, and yet, even eternity did not last.”
random mulch
maybe i should make a god 
now that i think of it, if there's a dragon of gluttony, could the other deadly sins have dragons and what gods would they make
maybe the god of war got their soul from the dragon of wrath
dusk laurel
lore
split mortar
“he who made his kind eternal through his powers of Rebirth, and yet, even etern...
Even more reason why eternity domain would be best for godking yharim imo
soft geyser
Even more reason why eternity domain would be best for godking yharim imo
“Godking”?
Wha?
split mortar
The theoretical idea of if he followed the godking plan
soft geyser
The theoretical idea of if he followed the godking plan
There was a god king plan?
Also hai lea channel
split mortar
There was a god king plan?
Its why he was to consume yharons soul
He rebelled against it and got yeeted into lava
soft geyser
Its why he was to consume yharons soul
He rebelled against it and got yeeted int...
Oh I see
plucky juniper
Its why he was to consume yharons soul
He rebelled against it and got yeeted int...
i dont really like how its phrased rn because it just doesnt seem right to me
they tossed yharim into the depths... as well as Yharon's egg as well?
split mortar
they tossed yharim into the depths... as well as Yharon's egg as well?
Yeah
random mulch
i mean what if it hatched in their hands
plucky juniper
and contrived too
split mortar
Yharon is rebirth and lava imo normally kills things
plucky juniper
it would make more sense if, say, the god cult thing happened to have a functioning terminus, Yharim broke it, and that was what pissed them off
(RN terminus's lore is that it was used by xeroc, then silva, then xeroc tossed it into the abyss and then it decayed into uselessness whilst being guarded by PW)
fleet wedge
undecorated
Can you put Xeroc's current concept art in there?
split mortar
it would make more sense if, say, the god cult thing happened to have a function...
I dont think they can make another terminus
plucky juniper
I dont think they can make another terminus
i meant to say it was the literal terminus itself
split mortar
(RN terminus's lore is that it was used by xeroc, then silva, then xeroc tossed ...
It didnt decay, its useless cause theres basically no auric souls to perfect ascend
random mulch
Can you put Xeroc's current concept art in there?
the image contains gods, ascended xeroc's art isn't public
plucky juniper
It didnt decay, its useless cause theres basically no auric souls to perfect asc...
it read to me as if it had basically decayed into uselessness
fleet wedge
undecorated
(Also, it would be really funny if you would add Yharim near Yharon and just write "NOT A GOD" or something near him )
split mortar
Doesnt read like that to me
random mulch
(Also, it would be really funny if you would add Yharim near Yharon and just wri...
this is informational
split mortar
Doesnt read like that to me
Yharon is the last auric dragon and is especially exceptionally hard to ascend with to the point of borderline impossibility
With that as the last ascension candidate yeah terminus for perfect ascension would be basically useless cause no ascension ever again
fleet wedge
undecorated
(Also, does this mean that Silva is more alive than dead?)
random mulch
silva is alive
split mortar
She is an elemental she never dead
plucky juniper
Yharon is the last auric dragon and is especially exceptionally hard to ascend w...
i mean that part about Yharon just being able to teleport his soul somewhere else is ultra contrived
like
really