lore-discussion

[woeful hatch]

So we could have killed Yharim, killed yharon, and then stomped on whatever yharim was being reborn in

[wanton pendant]

Found the statement on it.

[woeful hatch]

Hmm. I see.

[wanton pendant]

And this.

[woeful hatch]

Well that is phrased as "I would say" but yeah, fair enough

[frank dune]

Yo

[woeful hatch]

Sup

[crude musk]

Would you be able to keep ravager as a pet if you fed him people?

[long bloom]

no

it would immediately kill you too

[crude musk]

It's really weak though

It's like if your cat tried to kill you

You'd survive

[long bloom]

stronger than providence in the Future™ lore

[mighty zenith]

a cat that could rip you in half in seconds

[crude musk]

Ok fine

[zenith geode]

alright but what if you were really strong

[crude musk]

Just dodge + terrarian is built different

[mighty zenith]

how you gonna keep it as a pet while it's trying to kill you every second of its existence

[crude musk]

Lock it in the bathroom

[long bloom]

it'll demolish the walls

[mighty zenith]

it is the size of a bathroom 💔

[crude musk]

Make them out of cosmolite or something

[wanton pendant]

Now Ravager can control time.

[long bloom]

cosmilite is extremely flexible

[mighty zenith]

just get turtle

[crude musk]

Yeah but bendable does not mean breakable

[mighty zenith]

turtles are much better pets than evil zombie god

[crude musk]

No.

[long bloom]

still, if you punch the same spot enough times it's gonna snap eventually

[crude musk]

Give him a constant supply of living things so he's not bored

[long bloom]

how would you supply them without it escaping

[crude musk]

Teleporters

[mighty zenith]

bunny statue

[crude musk]

Or that

[long bloom]

it smashes the teleporter

and statue

[crude musk]

Hide it better

Or make the bathroom out of neutralized auric

I forgot you could neutralize it

[long bloom]

that would take quite a lot of yharon soul fragments

[mighty zenith]

long term investment

[crude musk]

Well the terrarian can harvest them

[long bloom]

refights aren't canon

[zenith geode]

hatch in the ceiling

[long bloom]

breaks the hatch

[crude musk]

Okay but what if my terrarian is really skilled at neutralizing auric with as few soul fragments as possible

[zenith geode]

its on the ceiling i dont think ravager can fly

[mighty zenith]

have you seen that mf jump

[crude musk]

He can jump

[long bloom]

it has fucking venom arms

and projectiles

[crude musk]

Give ravager auric armor

[long bloom]

and can probably climb really well

[crude musk]

And don't neutralize the bathroom

[mighty zenith]

auric padded cell

[long bloom]

they put me in a rubber room with wulfrum rovers

[zenith geode]

i like how i have questions that have very fucked up ramifications on the lore regarding the revival of gods

[long bloom]

elaborate?
(sounds interesting)

[zenith geode]

is a god's domain upon revival a vaguely related concept a la imperfect ascension or is it based on what's used to revive or is it just completely random and ravager got lucky enough to get a vaguely related concept

answering with any one leads into another question

[crude musk]

Choose your own adventure

[long bloom]

ur a patron shouldn't you know

[zenith geode]

i dont think theyve talked about it

[frank dune]

Have anyone ever tried building stove out of provi core?

👀

[long bloom]

what is this, a netherrack furnace

[pulsar ocean]

Is auric tuffer than netherrite

[long bloom]

significantly

[frank dune]

Practical solution to giant fuel consumption of base ovens and stoves

Same question goes if you can cook aqua scourge into a sushi

[long bloom]

yeah but it's poisonous

[pulsar ocean]

Just suck out the poison

[frank dune]

Its prolly just his spines are poisonous

The meat itself should be fine

[zenith geode]

netherite is an alloy though and 2 metal is bigger than 1 metal so clearly auric is a fraud

[long bloom]

true

[pulsar ocean]

Would yharim die instantly if you bonked him on the head from the world barrier with the mace from minecraft

[frank dune]

Definitely

[long bloom]

there's no sky barrier

[frank dune]

Hes a fraud after all

[long bloom]

you can fly up forever

[frank dune]

1 hit and hes gone

[long bloom]

or until the game crashes

[pulsar ocean]

as in if the mace was in terraria

[long bloom]

ah

is yharim in the underworld

[zenith geode]

relogic would never add such a silly weapon concept

[pulsar ocean]

Yes

[feral skiff]

Ermm actually, you’d have to fly quadrillions of blocks for that to happen 🤓☝️

[long bloom]

that doesn't invalidate that message

in fact it proves it

[long bloom]

i might actually do the math for this tomorrow

[split mortar]

Who wouldn’t

[long bloom]

prime fovos

[split mortar]

I feel like thats cheating the guy survives shit that should kill em

[long bloom]

xeroc?

[split mortar]

We dunno how much body mutilation the guy can tank

[zenith geode]

yharim would simply just parry

[long bloom]

fuckin uhhhhhhh
noxus? embers provi??

[long bloom]

true

[split mortar]

Embers providence isnt really stronger then blue fire provi the fire just doesnt go out
Noxus is same as xeroc we dunno enough to tell

[split mortar]

Damn wait true

[safe pecan]

who wins Steve or terrarian

[woeful hatch]

Terrarian

[wheat walrus]

Me

[pulsar ocean]

Me

[split mortar]

Well steve has a sword a bit better then an iron sword and can punch a metre block of wood into pieces in a few seconds
So
I think the terrarian wins on the basis of having much stronger gear and mobility
-# if we pull stuff like ateve carrying fuck you amount of gold blocks then uh, terrarian can carry infinite with endless water bucket or its variants
Tho ultimately anything using the terrarian is shaky since the terrarians lore and powers are up to you so you can just say anything you want for em basically

[dusk laurel]

[pulsar ocean]

What if I'm not the Terrarian what do I do

[split mortar]

No need to fear theoreticals that aren’t true

[split mortar]

Not the terrarian guy so im killing you

[crude musk]

Question for regular lore chatters. Don't you get bored of answering the same questions over and over again?

[safe pecan]

wb creative mode steve

😈

[split mortar]

Counterpoint
Journeymode terrarian

[woeful hatch]

Hmm, not really? The questions aren't the same too often, and there's also plenty of debates to do with other regulars regarding our own opinions on the more nebulous facts of the lore

[wanton pendant]

Does the Devourer of Gods devour gods mercifully doesn't get asked much.

[crude musk]

Would killing dog be considered murder or mutilation (of noxus)

[split mortar]

Uh
Dont think killing dog kills noxus
So
Mutilation or just
Not either

[safe pecan]

since when is it confirmed the devourer is part of noxus

[crude musk]

Draedon infodump

[split mortar]

Its very heavily hinted that DoG works for noxus

[wanton pendant]

Being a literal part as far as I know is speculation.

[split mortar]

Wha
You on about the hivemind?

[split mortar]

Yea

[wanton pendant]

But they are near certainly in league.

And by near certain I mean who the hell else?

[crude musk]

Yea

[snow mountain]

i mean noxus needs a bunch of talking heads

in his blunt rotation

[light moth]

Hi there

Guys
Ahhhhh
Do I get it right that this is the canon DoG design for now?

[wanton pendant]

No.

That's from years ago.

[light moth]

Then this?

[wanton pendant]

I believe that's fan art.

[woeful hatch]

No. That is from years ago, and it's not going to be used. The resprite they're gonna use when they rework and resprite DOG will be similar to the one on the tale of a cruel world album cover

[wanton pendant]

This is DoG's canon design.

[woeful hatch]

Unarmored and armored (obviously will have more segments

[light moth]

Oh, okay
I saw it
Thanks

Does anyone have his pallete?
Both armored and unarmored

[dusk laurel]

you could just, open the sprite in an art program

and color pick the palette manually

[light moth]

Fair
But shading is a bit of an issue here

[balmy glacier]

fables dog

[crude musk]

This is the canon design trust

[light moth]

😀 😀 😀

[snow mountain]

this is gonna be used in fables

[snow mountain]

i can't believe that i ideasguyed the creation of this

[pulsar ocean]

would higuruma jjk solo yharim calamity mod

[hearty ocean]

who created ravager

[pulsar ocean]

worshippers of the god of sacrifices

who is now ravager

[split mortar]

The people who worshipped the god before yharim happened

[real silo]

Me I made the ravioli

[hearty ocean]

well those people would have hated me

I killed like 6 ravagers in 20 minutes

[split mortar]

Those people got killed by ravager
Went from benevolent god to strong murder zombie
Mercy kill atp

[pulsar ocean]

what if we revived him

again

[split mortar]

Zombie

[pulsar ocean]

if calamitas eated yharon would she achieve perfect necromancy

[wanton pendant]

Only with a perfect ascension to become Goddess of Rebirth I would assume.

[pulsar ocean]

rebirth isnt necromancy

rebirth takes long and its stupid

[wanton pendant]

Apparently, doing it imperfectly wouldn't cause her to become Goddess of Necromancy.

[split mortar]

Due to necromancy being inherently flawed even if done perfectly the revived would still be fucked im pretty sure

[pulsar ocean]

if yharon got absorbed would yharim get unattuned

[pulsar ocean]

ok just make a new not inherently flawed necromancy spell

whats the big deal

you're a god

[split mortar]

Necromancy the magic is flawed
Not a specific spell
I think

[compact ridge]

Why does Storm Weaver attack the player

[zenith geode]

why does Bear attack the deer

[compact ridge]

True…

Storm weaver is just humgry it is innocent and can do no wrong 😇😇😇

[feral skiff]

does that mean the Devourer of Gods didn’t do anything wrong

[zenith geode]

storm weaver is functionally an animal
dog is sapient

[hearty spire]

this thing looks horrific and ugly

[wanton pendant]

Storm Weaver is also the best and did nothing wrong.

[mighty zenith]

yeah

[hearty spire]

like genuinely what the fuck

[hearty spire]

who made this fucking thing

like seriously

[zenith geode]

uhhhhh

[hearty spire]

i hope they get hunted down by DoG for all eternity

[pulsar ocean]

storm weaver is also the worst and did everything wrong

[pulsar ocean]

eternity like eternity mode

fargos

[crude musk]

Has dog eaten an auric soul before

I'd imagine they'd be pretty tasty

[safe pecan]

he eats providence

after you defeat her

so yes

[gritty kraken]

Can’t beat yharon so no auric souls

[crude musk]

No in the age of dragons

[crude musk]

That's a godly soul it's different

[safe pecan]

is it not still an auric soul

[crude musk]

No it's dilluted

With a human soul that gets upgraded or something

[gritty kraken]

Haven’t born yet probably

[crude musk]

I mean the distortion is old af

[gritty kraken]

He’s potentially the 2nd youngest yharmy guy
other being calamitas I think

[crude musk]

Does he even have an age

[gritty kraken]

idk

[safe pecan]

what 💀

oh cuz he's committed crimes

[zenith geode]

the distortion itself is ancient, we've got no clue how old dog or storm weaver are though

[gritty kraken]

Noxus could’ve saw the entire crusade stuff and just create DoG in the middle of that

[split mortar]

If dog did then yharim and yharon would have super killed him

[crude musk]

How would they know

Dog doesn't keep the essence

[split mortar]

God souls are different

[safe pecan]

how

[crude musk]

He sends it home

[split mortar]

Not in home rn so will explain later

[zenith geode]

keeps real secret about everything relating to the distortion

[crude musk]

Yet the most profound mystery remains: the means via which the Devourer's body processed or disposed of godly essence. The energy is not absorbed or entirely converted, but scans for traces of the essence showed that it was not stored inside him for other purposes. All signs indicated that godly essence simply vanished shortly after he consumed it.

Unless he blatantly defied the laws of thermodynamics, which is most unlikely, the mass-energy must have been transferred elsewhere. Where to, I am not sure. I doubt this matter will ever be resolved now that the Devourer has been culled.

Draedon when asked about dog

He sends the godly essence somewhere, most likely in the distortion whose ruler is noxus

[safe pecan]

when are we getting yharim and distortion update

💔

[crude musk]

2087 earliest

[split mortar]

When they do em

[safe pecan]

real

[gritty kraken]

Deltarune chapter 7

[safe pecan]

that will come out first

prolly

[crude musk]

gta 9

[safe pecan]

💀

[crude musk]

silksong 3

[safe pecan]

hunter x hunter endung

[split mortar]

Calamity is focusing on sunken sea and crags and like the rest of the game before distortion and yharim

[safe pecan]

ending

[hoary cape]

The answer is we won't I have cancelled the mod

[crude musk]

based

[crude musk]

uncancel it

[zenith geode]

FINALLY

[hoary cape]

I can't

[safe pecan]

why

[zenith geode]

because theyre shit rn

[safe pecan]

focusing on some little details before actually finishing the mod

[hoary cape]

Why finish the game when it's not finished

[gritty kraken]

They’re mid

[split mortar]

Because the rest of the game isnt up to standard

[safe pecan]

sunken sea is not shit

[gritty kraken]

it’s all

Blue

[crude musk]

it's kinda useless

[safe pecan]

all they had to do was give it that theme

[split mortar]

Little details
No
Full overhauls

[safe pecan]

and it was peak

[crude musk]

looks cool but kinda useless

[zenith geode]

sso has been in progress since rust and dust

[gritty kraken]

there are like 2 turtles there

[hoary cape]

It's not a little update this is the second largest update they have ever done

[split mortar]

Devs see it as shit and want to make it much better

[safe pecan]

What was the rust and dust update

[split mortar]

Isnt it the biggest atp?

[zenith geode]

yeah sso1 is absolutely larger than draedon update

[safe pecan]

So?

sso*

[hoary cape]

Yes

[split mortar]

Sunken sea overhaul part 1

[safe pecan]

zamn

peak

[hoary cape]

It's not just SSO stuff

Lots of reworks

[safe pecan]

ain't no way it takes 5 years to add a single biome update doe

[split mortar]

Theres a doc in #calamity-update-talk if you wanna see all future planned stuff easily

[safe pecan]

💔

[hoary cape]

I thought the last thing posted about the size was that it was still smaller than the biggest one

[zenith geode]

dog as a fight is such abysmal dogshit right now that they broke the dev rules just to fix it

[safe pecan]

play infernum problem solved

[crude musk]

what does that mean?

[zenith geode]

i'd like to see YOU compose, sprite, and code everything then buddy

[crude musk]

what's the dev ruleset

[split mortar]

They been preocupied with other stuff
And the dev team exploded and got new people on the mod
Basically only been actively made for over a year

[safe pecan]

does not take 5 years

you can make an entire game

[zenith geode]

work on things actually relating to the update

[safe pecan]

in that timeframe

[hoary cape]

There were also 2 events with the team that weren't good

[split mortar]

Yharim is their literal last priority

[hoary cape]

22 and 25 lol

[eager bluff]

no that wasnt the rule

[hoary cape]

That delayed stuff

[safe pecan]

This is like if I said "no way it takes you 5 years to write a song" and you go "id like you see you write a song then buddy"

🤡

[eager bluff]

the rule was no non-final reworks

[zenith geode]

misremembering, my bad

[gritty kraken]

we got like 2 big game coming out during SSO development in the same year 💔

[hoary cape]

Like half the team quit in 22 so that changed plans and probably delayed stuff by a few years anyway

[split mortar]

Lesbian jesus is telling you when it was planned but it hadnt started being made till after bountiful harvest

iirc

[hearty spire]

probably

[hoary cape]

This year fabsol being kicked out, deltarune, and silksong all delayed stuff

[zenith geode]

another reason why its taking a while is because this is a hobby

[eager bluff]

we got 2 massive games dropping that were guaranteed to delay the update, the dev team nearly imploding at least once while the update was being actively worked on, the dev team imploding before work had started, and also its not a job

[split mortar]

Only after fabsol left did they get money from patreon iirc

[crude musk]

also fabsol existed

[hoary cape]

The devs all have lives outside of this. This ain't their full time job

[split mortar]

Also true

[safe pecan]

true

this mod is so good I forget that they make 0 money

[gritty kraken]

Off topic but I think ravager and polter rework should be in crag update cause they’re near each other

[safe pecan]

from ot

[hoary cape]

Fabsol was anti progress

[safe pecan]

it

well apart from donos

[hoary cape]

Yah all that went to fabsol though

[safe pecan]

lol

[hoary cape]

He didn't pay his team

[safe pecan]

💔

why some people call fabsol he

some she

[crude musk]

cause he was larping as a girl

[cloud ibex]

because some people thought he was a woman

[safe pecan]

lmao

[split mortar]

Fabsol is a he
His self insert is the drunk princess
Dont question it

[hearty spire]

fabsolian mod management

[safe pecan]

larping as a woman is wild

💔

[cloud ibex]

they were wrong but i mean it's not an unreasonable assumption to make considering his definitely not a self insert female oc who talked exactly like he does and who made references to programming the mod like he did

[split mortar]

Every single boss being outdated by basically hears because fabsol was the only one allowed to work on the like 50 ish bosses

[eager bluff]

(there was actually a team vote for it at first and iirc after 22 there was another one and both times the team voted technically against sharing but the vote was always close)

[safe pecan]

yharim is never coming

💔

[hoary cape]

Fabsol when you tried to make his bosses actually good: nuh uh my way or no bosses

Though he did have some good ones

[split mortar]

Calamity is gonna get ship of theseusd by rhe time yharim comes out

[zenith geode]

the only part of a boss that wasnt made by fabsol are current scal brothers

[crude musk]

I hope the music remains tho

[hoary cape]

Everyone working on the mod will be in their 80's by the time yharim is out

[eager bluff]

so its not like he didnt pay the team its more like the team couldnt agree if they should be paid as well as him or not

[cloud ibex]

*and the very first versions of hive mind

[safe pecan]

calamity is utterly finished

fabsol gone and dm dokuro gone

my hope gone

[hearty spire]

i feel like the update would have probably been out already if a dev treated this like a full time job but why would you want to treat an addon for a game like a full time job

[safe pecan]

🥀

rip calamity mod

[cloud ibex]

why would fab being gone mean your hope is gone

[young socket]

dokuro has been gone longer than hes been in

[eager bluff]

dokuro has been gone for over half a decade and fab was a net negative for the project

[safe pecan]

dokuros themes are all peak

[cloud ibex]

also dok leaving doesn't mean the mod will never get more music

[safe pecan]

how was fab a net negative

if they made all the bosses

[gritty kraken]

20+ devs in the corners

[zenith geode]

only fab made bosses

[cloud ibex]

as is evident by the... four? i've lost count

[crude musk]

because he didn't allow anyone else to help

[cloud ibex]

tracks that have released since

[zenith geode]

and look at such amazing bosses as

[hearty spire]

scal and providence?

[crude musk]

and he's kinda shit at game design

[zenith geode]

dog

[split mortar]

Didnt let anyone else touch the bosses and also randomly nuked ideas

[zenith geode]

pbg

[gritty kraken]

Signus used corite ai

[cloud ibex]

not even counting vcmm music which i have no clue about

[eager bluff]

have you fought. any of the bosses. they are not very good as a whole

[safe pecan]

I play infernym

[hoary cape]

Fabsol was the kind of guy to add a random feature to the mod just because he hated people having fun with another feature

[split mortar]

Fabsol would also randomly add bosses

[safe pecan]

so they are good

[split mortar]

Without anyones permission

[eager bluff]

yeah distinctly not made by fab

[cloud ibex]

now ask yourself, why do you play infernum

[young socket]

infernum

[split mortar]

The no fabsol boss mod

[crude musk]

Redigit would a add a feature because it's fun
Fabsol would add a feature because it removes fun

[young socket]

whose whole existence was caused by

[safe pecan]

because it's fun

because it's more fun and more difficult

[cloud ibex]

is it because you don't like the base cal boss fights

[safe pecan]

than base cal

[young socket]

lucille wanting to make calamity bosses and fabsol not letting her

[gritty kraken]

and Providence use ice queen ai but that was a good one

[cloud ibex]

is it because the infernum fights are better overall

well there you go

thanks fab !

[safe pecan]

idk I haven't played post hardmode calamity

[hoary cape]

Redigit added torch luck because red hated people having fun with normal torches 😭

[safe pecan]

in case

[zenith geode]

dragonfolly mothron gif is so funny

[eager bluff]

yeah

[safe pecan]

bade

in many years

[safe pecan]

base*

[crude musk]

lmao true

[split mortar]

Werent that nuked literally days later

[hearty spire]

yharim in 2^1024-1 years

[split mortar]

The negative side

[young socket]

kinda

[safe pecan]

torch luck is gone

I believe

[hoary cape]

It was he at least listened to fans

[safe pecan]

even if it isn't torch god exists

[young socket]

negative torch luck only affects if you have positive torch luck

[hoary cape]

Good torch luck isn't

[eager bluff]

like its existence is exclusively because fabsol boss design and his unnecessary iron fist on boss design

[cloud ibex]

yea but he still added it initially because he got mad at people using torches "wrong"

[split mortar]

Nah the positives exist still

[eager bluff]

and it used to be worse

[safe pecan]

what does the luck stat

even do

[crude musk]

nothing

[zenith geode]

rerolls things in your favour

[crude musk]

it's fake

[split mortar]

Makes you slightly luckier

[hoary cape]

Red: how dare people use regular torches in the jungle. I made jungle torches for you use them nerds

[crude musk]

it makes you think you are more lucky

[cloud ibex]

in vanilla? it affects, among other things, drop rates and damage variance

[safe pecan]

in what way

[crude musk]

it's a psyop

[split mortar]

Afaik yeah

[young socket]

this

[safe pecan]

?

[hoary cape]

Luck is such a weird thing

[young socket]

it automatically rerolls stuff for you and if you get a positive thing it does that

[hearty spire]

okay i gotta sleep before i watch the sun rising

[hoary cape]

It makes it easier to farm loot

[eager bluff]

pre 22 fab had an iron fist on nearly everything not just bosses so for multiple years any change had to go directly through fab

[cloud ibex]

normally in terraria your hits vary between +15% and -15% of their normal value

[young socket]

negative luck is the opposite way where it picks a worse outcome

[hoary cape]

Fabsol added damage defense just to hate on face tanks

[cloud ibex]

positive luck makes it roll higher more often, negative luck makes it roll lower more often

[hoary cape]

Hating on face tanks is however based because face tanking takes no skill what so ever

[eager bluff]

as messy as it is defense damage is also a good thing at least as a placeholder

[cloud ibex]

so when it was first added, placing a jungle torch in the ice biome would actually reduce your damage

[hearty spire]

What's that

[hoary cape]

What's what

I said two different things in that sentence

[hearty spire]

damage defence

[eager bluff]

certain attacks reduce your defense for a short period of time after being hit

[hoary cape]

Your defense takes damage

[split mortar]

Damage reduces your defence temporarily

[crude musk]

tbh it's not a horrible mechanic

[cloud ibex]

anyway none of this is lore related but the point is

[hoary cape]

It is lore related now

[eager bluff]

its not a horrible mechanic no the issue is just the formula for how defense damage is calculated

[hoary cape]

Calamity lore (the mod not in game)

[safe pecan]

it's irl lore

[cloud ibex]

being pessimistic about the future because of fab leaving, of all things, is kinda silly

[split mortar]

Fabsol wanted cirrus as an actual lore person iirc

[fleet wedge]

Hey, speaking of this, can we do something like this (without the gold parts) for the storm weaver redesign?

[hoary cape]

Fab hindered the mod

[eager bluff]

yes

[cloud ibex]

he did

[safe pecan]

fab made the mod

💀

[hearty spire]

-# technically lore related just that it's the mod and not the game

[split mortar]

Thats about it

[hoary cape]

Yah and he still hindered his team

[gritty kraken]

gave an alcoholic redemption arc something something

[crude musk]

he should have just separated himself to make calamity fabful

[hoary cape]

Most of the team hated working with him it's part of why 22 ended up happening lol

[cloud ibex]

yeah? it hasn't been solely his creation since i'd wager a guess late 2016

[gritty kraken]

Notch made Minecraft type thing

[cloud ibex]

genuinely the best thing he's done in recent years was when he decided to leave the mod

[safe pecan]

hopefully he touches grass

[hoary cape]

He probably won't

[cloud ibex]

cause if he didn't, literally everyone else would've left instead and calamity genuinely would have died then and there

[safe pecan]

and stops pretending to be an alcoholic woman online

[eager bluff]

yeah

[hoary cape]

Oh definitely I think the team probably would have left if he hadn't left after the comments and stuff he did was found out

[hearty spire]

thing (haha get it type thing)
that is the wrost joke I've ever made and i should wipe my drives if i made that kind of joke again

[eager bluff]

there was a vc and well over half the dev team was there and directly told him if he didnt leave they would all leave too and thats just the devs that were awake and able to get on call at that point

[crude musk]

there can always be worse

[hoary cape]

Heck even if he hadn't done those things there probably would have been another 22 eventually because he was just not fun to work with

[gritty kraken]

Thought he was improving as a person when I recently joined this community ngl (this was sometimes before the thing happened)

[safe pecan]

😭

[hoary cape]

He was in fact not

[eager bluff]

he kinda was
right after 22 there was some fabsol character development but that died like immediately

[split mortar]

iirc the reason it seemed that way was cause he was doing
Less stuff
Not improving
Just doing less
I think?

[young socket]

shayy undertale finally having access to the internet and the first thing they see is calamity on the verge of imploding

[gritty kraken]

Your brain will totally not remind you of this message for the next 10 hours

[crude musk]

what relation does shay have to calamity. I have seen them mentioned

[eager bluff]

they were. very mad to say the least

[eager bluff]

social media manager

[crude musk]

now it will

[hearty spire]

im gonna be asleep or falling asleep for the next 10 hours

[cloud ibex]

social media manager and also probably other things idk

[split mortar]

Manual breathing

[crude musk]

manual blinking spell

[hoary cape]

I think he even admitted after he left that he didn't even do anything wrong or something 😭

[eager bluff]

shayy also does some testing

[safe pecan]

wtf shay is the social media manager

for calamity

[split mortar]

Yes

[safe pecan]

crazy lore drop

[split mortar]

Shayy undertale

[eager bluff]

who

[hoary cape]

Fabsol

[split mortar]

They dont even hide it

[wheat walrus]

holy fucking shit dawg

[split mortar]

Bruh

[hoary cape]

Don't take my word on that though

[eager bluff]

thats not admission thats denial

[wheat walrus]

that's stupidity and asking to be hit w a bat 🙏❤️‍🩹

[cloud ibex]

as i've said many times before i hope he changes and grows as a person

[split mortar]

Insert spintarp image about the room

[cloud ibex]

doesn't seem like he will but a man can hope

[crude musk]

That's like if yharim said I'm sorry at the end

[young socket]

he lied about the mold.

[gritty kraken]

Drunk princess will never be the annoying dog 💔

[wheat walrus]

something abt fabsol as he is viscerally pisses me off so much

[hearty spire]

im gonna disappear now

[eager bluff]

you lied about me not cleaning the apartment.

[cloud ibex]

horrifying

[hearty spire]

[wheat walrus]

that was the goofiest one i think

[hoary cape]

When you go to yharim and he says I am sorry for committing genocide

[young socket]

I FOUND IT

[split mortar]

Disappear!

[wheat walrus]

😭

[cloud ibex]

good image

[hoary cape]

Springtrap

[eager bluff]

best image i think

[hoary cape]

William Afton

[gritty kraken]

I like my calamity lore fabsoled

[young socket]

fabsol had an actual disney villain act 3 breakdown post 25 its hilarious

[wheat walrus]

yea where they start grasping at small things

desperately

[split mortar]

Fabsol vs 2000c molten iron

[pulsar ocean]

wow how did you know

[gritty kraken]

not very loreous but I think reworked polter is gonna move like mars from wotg

[wheat walrus]

higuruma's sentencing is rng dependant in part but

[pulsar ocean]

what weighs more
a kilogram of feathers or a kilogram of iron

[wheat walrus]

with all the shit calamity mod characters do he'd be going crazy

though, good luck landing the executioner's sword on some of em

[pulsar ocean]

i zink yharim would get death sentence and get godslayer or whatever the sword's name is confiscated

[wheat walrus]

would it even work through yharim's armor

[pulsar ocean]

its the executioner's sword of course it would

[wheat walrus]

yea no i mean

would it count as touching yharim

[pulsar ocean]

i feel like yharim has been so long in the armor its basically merged into him

[split mortar]

Auric works through armour but thats cal system not jjk

[wheat walrus]

it might still get deep enough without higuruma himself making contact and getting auric-rejected, b still

[safe pecan]

higuruma would get fucking obliterated

[pulsar ocean]

if it didnt then higuruma would get countered by wearing any sort of armor

[safe pecan]

before he gets anywhere near

[wheat walrus]

anyways, assuming it does work, both for convenience and uhh muh attunement

then the problem is landing the sword

[wheat walrus]

which yea this is most likely what's gonna happen

[safe pecan]

he couldn't land it on sukuna how he gonna land it on yharim lmaoo

[split mortar]

Higuruma when yharim deletes that direction

[crude musk]

Higuruma when Yharim simply uses godslayer dash

[wheat walrus]

yharim i say has notably higher physicals than any character in jjk, like very easily

[pulsar ocean]

i dont think he can i dont think he merged 3 armor sets into one to make his

[wheat walrus]

and he should also be fast enough to at least keep up

[safe pecan]

can yharim fly

[crude musk]

yeah but he has that godslayer aura

wings

does infinite flight exist in calamity?

outside of mounts

[pulsar ocean]

yharim filled out his accessory slots to the brim theres no space for wings

[wheat walrus]

i know the concept art from last year is intended to have a jetpack/thing that sprouts wings for him to fly, but i remember hearing we were getting another yharim design so uhh

ya

[crude musk]

he has them in that piece of art

unless it's outdated

also awakening lore item

[wheat walrus]

otherwise, yharim should be able to just jump absurdly well like jjk top tiers

[safe pecan]

or ride yharon

[eager bluff]

in a limited sense yeah

[wheat walrus]

lol

[gritty kraken]

that exo upgrade gotta have something

[pulsar ocean]

yharon dies to the executioner's sword

[safe pecan]

how a limited sense

[eager bluff]

ascendant insignia gives you infinite flight for a short period of time

[safe pecan]

what happened to that one empress of light accessory

[eager bluff]

it got nerfed

[gritty kraken]

Nerfed

[safe pecan]

yharon isn't being hit by that

[pulsar ocean]

bro hes fat

😭

[safe pecan]

and it would have to pierce his armor

likely

[pulsar ocean]

WHAT ARMOR

[crude musk]

yharon armor

[gritty kraken]

Ron not rim

[safe pecan]

wym what armor

auric armor

[gritty kraken]

Yah ron

[eager bluff]

yharon doesnt wear armor

[safe pecan]

with exo tech upgrades

yharim

yeah

[eager bluff]

at least not to the extent that you couldnt just Go Around It

[safe pecan]

not yharon

mb

[crude musk]

it's covered by vanity

[safe pecan]

higuruma can't fly

yharon could just fly

[pulsar ocean]

he can jump

[safe pecan]

above him

and shoot his ass

[safe pecan]

and yharon would fly out of the way

[pulsar ocean]

i think you're massively underscaling anyone in jjk

[pliant ruin]

jujutsu haha purple

[safe pecan]

higuruma is a bum

jjk isn't that strong

of a verse

only gojo and sukuna

[crude musk]

sukuna vs xerox

[wheat walrus]

blows you up

[wheat walrus]

xeroc is that one character i cannot think anyone in jjk is doing anything relevant to

[pulsar ocean]

how strong is world cutting slash does xeroc get cut in half

[wheat walrus]

save for like

gojo out of MU

and yuki's suicidal black hole thing

[wheat walrus]

well this is a thing

but i think xeroc is gonna notice sukuna just

[pliant ruin]

haha jujutsu

[pulsar ocean]

ok just make a pact

[wheat walrus]

striking the enmaten, pointing to xeroc and chanting

[crude musk]

nah xeroc has instant teleportation

[safe pecan]

if the empress of light shoots light blasts and we dodge that light

[wheat walrus]

instant teleportation when the entire planet gets swallowed by a black hole

[safe pecan]

can we say that the terrarian is ftl

[woeful hatch]

Do not finish that sentence

[wheat walrus]

eol shoots primordial light

[safe pecan]

🤣

[eager bluff]

this is why i hate powerscalers

[crude musk]

didn't it get easily countered by kenjaku's power

I forgor

[wheat walrus]

you're also quite clearly aimdodging it

[pulsar ocean]

primordial = old = slow

[safe pecan]

and therefore all post empress bosses

[wheat walrus]

antigravity

[pulsar ocean]

slow light

[crude musk]

but kenjaku isn't that fast

[safe pecan]

are ftw

[woeful hatch]

I will slow cook you on low heat sous vide

[safe pecan]

ftl*

therefore calamity is ftl scale speed

[wheat walrus]

kenjaku isn't that fast but he had the one ability that just nullifies gravity so like

the moment it's activated the effects cease

[safe pecan]

even sukuna the peak of jujutsu can't move anywhere near ftl

[wheat walrus]

xeroc just teleporting far from it won't do that

[pulsar ocean]

sukuna makes a pact like vs gojo to instantly cast wcs and no diffs xeroc gg

[wheat walrus]

anyways, xeroc vs jjk is kinda unfun since

xeroc is so absurdly stronger than everyone else

[hoary cape]

Xeroc loses

[safe pecan]

king slime solos jjk

[wheat walrus]

and the only way anyone in jjk is doing anything to him is under specifics

[safe pecan]

🔥

clears the verse fr

[crude musk]

why is xeroc so strong anyways

[hoary cape]

I could solo King slime

[crude musk]

zeratros got bodied

[hoary cape]

Irl

[crude musk]

and the monk was just a guy

[safe pecan]

you would get flattened

[gritty kraken]

power scaling is such an unfun and fun thing at the same time

[hoary cape]

Nah I'd win

[wheat walrus]

true oofy2

[safe pecan]

Power scaling would be good if the speed scaling wasn't a thing

[gritty kraken]

Zeratos was on life support at the time asking xeroc to do that

[pulsar ocean]

how fodder were the dragons if your average femboy joe could kill one

[wheat walrus]

true liam speed scaling is so boring

[hoary cape]

Y'all remember when this channel was magically power scaling for a day because it never happened

[gritty kraken]

Pretty sure xeroc was like below yharon in power at the time but nvm idk

[safe pecan]

speed scaling is unbelievably boring

[wheat walrus]

sure khamul

[crude musk]

no zeratros got bodied by fovos

and xeroc could easily beat him

[wheat walrus]

there's also how most times outta ten the writers just have completely different intentions from what ppl calc

[hoary cape]

You can thank me for that day never happening (it was my channel that day)

[safe pecan]

wasn't zeratros the strongest dragon

[gritty kraken]

He was dying gng

[pulsar ocean]

if gojo threw a purple at the calamity sun would the sun absorb the purple

[safe pecan]

yet providence is stronger than fovos

ingame

[wheat walrus]

the purple is doing nothing to the sun

[safe pecan]

calamity makes no fucking sense

[hoary cape]

That's because fovos is currently crippled

[pulsar ocean]

how would you know

[crude musk]

no that's injured half of fovos

[safe pecan]

oh yeah

nvm

[wheat walrus]

1+1=2 dawg

[crude musk]

yeah because of fovos

[pulsar ocean]

not having legs decreased fovos' power like threefold

[crude musk]

which xeroc would beat

[hoary cape]

Wrong it equals window. People these days can't even do simple math what a shame

[wheat walrus]

the hollow purple isn't nuking the planet so how would it nuke the sun

[crude musk]

because purple > orange

[wheat walrus]

sob

the sun is white doe

[safe pecan]

krillin vs calamity verse

who winning

[pulsar ocean]

krillin

[wheat walrus]

krillin

[crude musk]

idk looks orange enough

[hoary cape]

Our star is white it just looks yellow because of light stuff in our atmosphere

[eager bluff]

it makes shit brown when combined which is worse than both so actually no

[pulsar ocean]

bulma vs calamity verse and calamity still loses

[crude musk]

you make a fair point

[hoary cape]

Blue stars are the coolest (not temperature wise)

[safe pecan]

early DBZ base goku

vs calamity

[pulsar ocean]

are there purple stars cuz theyd be the coolest

[wheat walrus]

he also winning lwk

[hoary cape]

No

Purple and green stars don't exist

[pulsar ocean]

why dont aliens just make one

[hoary cape]

However they could, but we can't see the light from them so it appears like another colour

[safe pecan]

Naruto vs scal

[crude musk]

because it would take a lot of green dye

[safe pecan]

who winning

[wheat walrus]

what is naruto scaling like even

[hoary cape]

Technically blue stars aren't even that blue

[pulsar ocean]

who gaf about naruto

[hoary cape]

You

[safe pecan]

idek lmao people scale him to planetary as if he's ever destroyed anything close to a town

but he does beat pain who nukes a town and then gets way stronger than that

[pulsar ocean]

tatsumaki vs the whole calamity verse

[safe pecan]

fighting aliens with dimensional shit

[wheat walrus]

ik that towards the end they have like funny nuke booms b still

[safe pecan]

tatsumaki vs scal

[gritty kraken]

buh xeroc only beat fovos after ascension not back when he was just zeratos’s monk
I think

[safe pecan]

would be peak

[pulsar ocean]

bro tatsumaki highkey no diffs the verse

[crude musk]

yeah his name wasn't even xeroc back then

[hoary cape]

If xeroc was in the marvel universe where would he scale

[safe pecan]

probably

[pulsar ocean]

what if his name was john

[safe pecan]

maybe not no diff

[crude musk]

why is xeroc so strong if the 2 beings he's made of were so weak

[safe pecan]

but maybe

[wheat walrus]

marversal

[crude musk]

john calamity

[safe pecan]

her manga feats are good

[split mortar]

Tatsumaki like
Lifted a giant chunk of the earth no 😭?

[safe pecan]

John calamity

[pulsar ocean]

old lore xeroc

[safe pecan]

vs garou

[safe pecan]

yuh

I think so

[gritty kraken]

Zeratos got big power but didn’t grind xp on it

[split mortar]

Scal is like
No where fucking close

[pulsar ocean]

is blast from opm even stronger than tatsumaki

[safe pecan]

calamity a weak verse

yes blast is way stronfer

[split mortar]

Zeratros is like yharim level no?

[safe pecan]

stronger

he literally trained her

😭

[crude musk]

still

[pulsar ocean]

what feats does he have besides opening a few portals

[crude musk]

idk

[safe pecan]

idk I don't remember

[crude musk]

you're the lore person

you know this better than me

[safe pecan]

but anyway he ranks higher than her

[gritty kraken]

The old numbers with Yharim and him on the same tier said so

[safe pecan]

and it's heavily implied he's stronger

[pulsar ocean]

yeah and saitama is in C class
your point?

[safe pecan]

And he trains her

and he has like black hole fists or some shit

idfk

[woeful hatch]

I forgot whether that's actual lore or RP lore

[split mortar]

Consistently said zeratros is roughly equal to yharim which fits since yharon is the second strongest
Ignore those numbers fucking no no they dont exist cei found dead in an allyway

[pulsar ocean]

zeratros is like evil 2 scaling

[split mortar]

Yharim is stronger in rp due to mark

[safe pecan]

A class in maga

manga

[wheat walrus]

cook melon gun

[safe pecan]

🤫

[split mortar]

Was zeratros level
Now like
50% stronger??

[pulsar ocean]

demon slayer mark

[split mortar]

No mark (E) the man who used prime moonlord as ragebait

[gritty kraken]

Yharim in demon slayer

[safe pecan]

tanjiro vs king slime

[crude musk]

ok but what makes the god so much stronger than the dragon

is it just training?

[pulsar ocean]

yeah demon slayer is poorer of a verse than calamity

[safe pecan]

no diffs the verse prob

[pulsar ocean]

aint no one doing shit to yharim

[split mortar]

They arent always stronger
Xeroc just has literally every reason to be strong possible

[safe pecan]

demon slayer weak ahh verse

[gritty kraken]

Dragons didn’t train the powers because they were the best in the world or something

[split mortar]

Perfect ascension keeping the sun domain
Strongest dragon
Strongest human at the time
Endless training for centuries
Prob more i missed

[crude musk]

interesting

[gritty kraken]

White fatalis vs tanjiro my fav image

[safe pecan]

fuck is that

[wheat walrus]

😭

[crude musk]

Also is there merit to the idea that zeratros consented to the ascension?

[split mortar]

Who

[wheat walrus]

who is doing this

[gritty kraken]

I think I might watch the new movie or something

[safe pecan]

infinity castle?

it's good

[pulsar ocean]

to perfectly ascend you actually have to make the dragon eat the terminus

[wheat walrus]

i assume fatalis cuz we all know tanjiro

[pulsar ocean]

who

[split mortar]

No one knows what happened in there so yeah theres a chance the dragon king consented

[safe pecan]

who's white fatalis

only fatalis I know is mhw iceborne

[gritty kraken]

Yeah might watch the 3rd season too I missed it

[wheat walrus]

monster hunter monster

[wheat walrus]

yea

[pulsar ocean]

the infinity castle movie was peak

[safe pecan]

what's white fatalis tho

[wheat walrus]

old fatalis is a fatalis variation, hasn't appeared in iceborne

[crude musk]

Also did yharim fight xeroc and make him doubt his power or is that old lore

[safe pecan]

real

[wheat walrus]

it's the white one that instead of using fuckass fire uses fuckass red thunder

[gritty kraken]

more evil Variant probably I forgor

[safe pecan]

akaza best character

[wheat walrus]

also has a beard

[gritty kraken]

yeah

[pulsar ocean]

wasnt it confirmed by triangle to perfectly ascend you have to do some terminus shenanigans

[safe pecan]

mid

ngl

[split mortar]

Yup
Was theorised before hand but triangle confirmed

[wheat walrus]

anyways who the hell doin this 🥀

[pulsar ocean]

so who is white fatalis?

[gritty kraken]

I saw it on a Roblox game server once

[wheat walrus]

alr explained

[gritty kraken]

never left my head since

[safe pecan]

since when is there a fatalis variant

[wheat walrus]

monster hunter monster, variation of fatalis that instead of using giant flames, uses red thunder and is much older

[wheat walrus]

there's 2

well technically they're not even variants they're just fatalis again and again but

[pulsar ocean]

how far would yoriichi make it in the calamity verse gauntlet

[safe pecan]

isnt fatalis only in iceborne

[wheat walrus]

bro

[gritty kraken]

💔

[wheat walrus]

fatalis has been a thing since the first game of the series

in 2004

[gritty kraken]

You might want to delete this gng

[safe pecan]

wack

[pulsar ocean]

like the guy from elden ring

[safe pecan]

delete what

🤔

[gritty kraken]

Must’ve been a wind

[wheat walrus]

kushala daora

[safe pecan]

true

kushala auric soul

[wheat walrus]

steel dragon, controls winds

uhhh

either wind or steel

[safe pecan]

imperfect ascension

god of fart

[wheat walrus]

sob

[pulsar ocean]

poshanka

[safe pecan]

kushala is annoying af

in world

[wheat walrus]

rise makes kushala like cool

and then there's the risen version which is lwk goated

[safe pecan]

is there a gold variant

or am I tripping

[wheat walrus]

well

there's garuba daora from frontier

uses fuckass light and crystals

[safe pecan]

I only played mh4u and world

peak games

[wheat walrus]

frontier is the monster hunter equivalent of ohio according to 2023 memes

[wheat walrus]

how did u miss old/white fatalis in 4u

[safe pecan]

idk I was like 8 bro I didn't make it that far

[wheat walrus]

fair

[safe pecan]

💔

maybe younger

when did 4u come out

on 3ds

[wheat walrus]

2014

maybe 2015

[safe pecan]

zamn

I'm unc

[wheat walrus]

unciam

[safe pecan]

💀

I still need to finish iceborne

when I played world on Xbox iceborne wasn't out yet

I've played base game twice

[wheat walrus]

iceborne is great

[safe pecan]

cuz of repurchasing on pc

[wheat walrus]

the expansion adds so much to it it's js peam

[safe pecan]

peam

[wheat walrus]

peam

peak

[safe pecan]

Isn't fatalis crazy hard

[wheat walrus]

yuh

[split mortar]

Blue fire fatalis

[safe pecan]

I've seen people say it's the hardest boss in gaming

[split mortar]

Solo it

[safe pecan]

iceborne fatalis

[wheat walrus]

i wouldnt say in gaming but it's absurdly hard

in gaming it's something i can think of for frontier endgame maybe

9 months for 1 boss 🥀

[pliant ruin]

white fatalis vs scoria duke whos winning

[wheat walrus]

wifi

what was scoria duke again

[safe pecan]

what's scoria duke

[wheat walrus]

im dementia

[pliant ruin]

its duke fishrn but made of scoria ore

[split mortar]

I doubt that cause
Theres def some unfair shit on a 2 cent game no ones heard about that makes undertale fangame look easy

[wheat walrus]

sob

anyways yea iceborne fatalis is very hard

[safe pecan]

well like popular fun gaming

[pliant ruin]

i can literally make the hardest boss in gaming if i want to

[wheat walrus]

the only thing that rly compares to it is like

[safe pecan]

not some random bs

[wheat walrus]

alatreon

but alatreon doesn't do it much out of stats and more like

eschaton judgment and needing to change ur playstyle for it

but the moment u get that down it's not that bad

[safe pecan]

elemental hd

bs

[wheat walrus]

fatalis on the other hand js kicks ass

[safe pecan]

I need my fatalis insect glaive

🤑

[wheat walrus]

god forbid u dont break the head before phase 3 and even when u do break the head

weaker =/= weak u still get obliterated quite easily

[split mortar]

Fatalis vs mark e

[young socket]

scoria duke

[wheat walrus]

why r u obsessed w this

[safe pecan]

wtf is that

[magic epoch]

scoria duke

[split mortar]

Idk

[safe pecan]

and what's make e

mark e

[wheat walrus]

3rd time u ask me abt mark e vs fatalis

[split mortar]

@spring helm

[pulsar ocean]

i spent 10 hours in a row trying to kill promised consort radahn in the elden ring dlc

[split mortar]

Damn

[gritty kraken]

This enemy one shot you when you open the game (hardest fight ever in history of all gaming)

[safe pecan]

this enemy one shots you irl

[pliant ruin]

yeah thats me

im that enemy

[safe pecan]

no I'm that enemy

[gritty kraken]

blame it on chara

[split mortar]

Calamitas oneshots you irl

[safe pecan]

you're a femboy

[split mortar]

Wha

[zenith geode]

if you die to the enemy your address is doxxed and a hitman is sent toyour current location

[wheat walrus]

this enemy oneshots your computer when you open the game

[pulsar ocean]

if you have enough space to download it

[split mortar]

World of warcraft oneshots your hygiene

[wheat walrus]

boss progression we call it

[safe pecan]

Survival ascended????

[crude musk]

fabsol would make this a post dog boss for no reason

[safe pecan]

wasn't it ark survival EVOVLED

evolved

[wheat walrus]

ue5 remake

[pulsar ocean]

unreal engine 5 😨

man i love my smooth 30 fps

[gritty kraken]

I have a lobotomized og ark in my steam library that I can’t play because 5 seconds on the beach crash my pc

this is also why I resorted into playing evil ark mobile

[wheat walrus]

that has crossplay and crossmodding but it also makes evolved's performance look prime (ignoring the last update where they basically bricked it) and they're making an nft-looking market outta mods

abt the part where they bricked evolved

remember that one map that had an ai trailer

[pulsar ocean]

yes

[gritty kraken]

I wish ocean map were real

Those would’ve been so cool

[wheat walrus]

they released it, and not only did the base game without it spike up by like 100gb, the map is also much bigger than other maps and now the game is like absurdly bricked

the entire mod workshop stopped working

the game + every map now takes up almost 600gb

optimization equivalent of a natural disaster

[safe pecan]

unemployed final boss

[gritty kraken]

I love gaming discussion

[spring helm]

What

[split mortar]

Explain the marks

[magic epoch]

what would calamitas make youtubr videos of

[robust osprey]

how to kill people easy and fast

[safe pecan]

Blowing up orphanage

[crude musk]

gardening

[magic epoch]

Providing Free Resurrections to Those In Need (GONE WRONG)

[safe pecan]

why does the steampunker have a Xenoblade 2 character name

is that a calamity thing

[crude musk]

calling tyrian ghost at 3am (gone wrong) (gone sexual)

[robust osprey]

donors get to give names to npcs

[gritty kraken]

“Why im scared of draedon”
leaving nanobot plague in jungle for 100 days video right under it

[wheat walrus]

bro

[woeful hatch]

I was joking

I deleted it myself dw

[wheat walrus]

i know what you are

[woeful hatch]

Whaaaaa? Noo

I'm totally straight trust me

[wheat walrus]

You could never withstand what's coming for you.

no gooning to the gods

[crude musk]

Freakuron, the goon lord

[wheat walrus]

abhorrent name

anyways

be gay but be ethical

[amber bough]

Ok so what is up with this lore I’m new to Terraria and Calamity lmao

[woeful hatch]

Oooh boy