lore-discussion

[snow mountain]

upon his head was writ Aleph

[split mortar]

I dont care about mb so it getting more horrors doesnt affect me

[wanton pendant]

Let's get back on topic.

[split mortar]

I wonder how much energy miracle matter makes in comparison
I know a writer said they were equal but was that miracle matter item (bigger then exo prism) or same sized matter to prism make same energy amount

[wanton pendant]

I presume that Miracle Matter has the same output, but it's capable of doing more things, while Exo Prisms are basically just infinite batteries.

[distant smelt]

I think it’s probably that miracle matter is more adaptable

[split mortar]

Thanks for answering a question i wasnt asking

[pulsar ocean]

what would DoG taste like

[split mortar]

Whatever pure gluons taste like

[wanton pendant]

Somewhere between lobster and earthworms.

[pulsar ocean]

if xeroc most likely lives on the sun is he super irradiated

[split mortar]

We dont know since the sun itself is different to irl

[wanton pendant]

We don't know if Primordial Light causes cancer.

The devs refuse to answer this simple question.

So it may or may not cause cancer.

[split mortar]

Being in sunlight still not a good idea like irl since we know it has caused issues
So
Prob does
Or you get smited with a post lunatic cultist debuff

[wanton pendant]

Like, what if it's only heat stroke.

No cancer, you just cook.

Alternatively; Super Cancer, but very little heat.

[split mortar]

Prob more likely since the sun is colder then crags magma iirc

Atleast the surface is

[pulsar ocean]

what would miracle matter taste like

[long bloom]

death

[split mortar]

A mix between super chemically, death and like s phone charger on steroids

[icy veldt]

Gummy candy

[wanton pendant]

It tastes like slag and burning flesh.

[pulsar ocean]

meat

yum

[feral skiff]

It tastes like ■■■■■ and [REDACTED]

[wanton pendant]

It tastes like ♓︎♐︎ ⍓︎□︎◆︎ ♍︎♋︎■︎ ❒︎♏︎♋︎♎︎ ⧫︎♒︎♓︎⬧︎📪︎ ⍓︎□︎◆︎ॐ︎❒︎♏︎ ♋︎ ■︎♏︎❒︎♎︎✏︎?

[reef wigeon]

It tastes like have in your mouth Knowledge of the entire World... And epilepsy, a bit of that

[jaunty wraith]

Is there lore for skeletron beyond just being a spooky curse

[hoary cape]

demon curse

[long bloom]

not currently

[jaunty wraith]

Hes linked to the dungeon through the dungeon guardian and maybe to silva???

[thick slate]

id hope so

the UV rays that give you cancer

are also the rays that give you vitamin D

so unless everyone in the world is vitamin D deficient

the sun can give you cancer

[north root]

miracle boy mentioned... miracle boy...

[pulsar ocean]

how would ceaseless void taste like

[limpid saddle]

his frame or the portal itself

[split mortar]

Gravity

[long bloom]

antimatter

[pulsar ocean]

portal

[limpid saddle]

whatever distortion air tastes like

[frail hearth]

is Yahrim's name dirived from anywhere?

idk if i worded that goodly but like i mean etymologically

[snow mountain]

yharnham

yhorm

[frail hearth]

thanks! :0

[split mortar]

Yharims name is from bloodborn i think?
Yharnam or something
And then yharon based on his name

[snow mountain]

you can really tell when fabsol played DS3

[frail hearth]

so like I'm assuming his name would share origins of those soulsborn entities? if any i mean

[snow mountain]

no

fabsol thought it was cool so

yharim it was

[frail hearth]

ah i see >u>;

Never could get into soulsborns tbh ;-;

as much as i like video games, when it comes to playing them i singlehandedly set feminisim back a few decades. ;0;

[snow mountain]

guh

[frail hearth]

like a buddy i hung out with after school once let me try making a character in ds3 and the first boss took me about 15 tries on the normal difficulty x-x

[snow mountain]

normal amount

[frail hearth]

i mean it was partially my fault? i chose one of the starting loadouts without a solid shield and that's allegedly a bad idea for beginners. i just thought the set looked cooler >u<;

no wonder Yahrim is a big guy @u@;

still tho is is cool! It's a lot of fun to like look up the origin of a name for lore-deep game characters and see how the original word's mythos/origin influenced the final design and story :0

middleschool me thought she was so cool for naming an old OC of mine with fire powers "kennith" >u>;

[wanton pendant]

That's a wild sentence.

[frail hearth]

All i'm saying is if i hang out and play a game with the wrong kind of crowd i could very easily make some very weird people very angry at me. 😬

[pulsar ocean]

there are no difficulty sliders in soulsborne games

[frail hearth]

i'm definitely misremembering something then. that was back in highschool and i'm like 26 now >n<

[wanton pendant]

Old.

[frail hearth]

oh god what do you mean dark souls 3 is almost ten years old what the fuck ;0;

[wanton pendant]

That's almost as old as the Calamity Mod.

[frail hearth]

mah bones.... they turn to dust before me eyes @n@

anyways i ask all of this because i though it'd be funny to come up with an illegitimate son of Yahrim's for a rouge playthrough.

figured he'd be a rouge cus that's about the furthest from Yahrim's fighting style from I assume from his deminor, and a disowned kid who legally dosen't exist would probubly not want to be anything like his shitty dad.

[wanton pendant]

Quest to obtain child support.

[frail hearth]

literally

his motive for doing the mod would be like some cope about how if he kills off his dad he'll feel better about how nonexistant he was in his life.

[magic epoch]

how about someone who takes most after his fighting styles but does it for Not Genocide and Evil instead

[frail hearth]

cus y'know parental issues totally work like that. totally.

[frail hearth]

because ninjas are cool? >u>;

[wanton pendant]

If your dad was Super Hitler you'd probably be upset too.

[frail hearth]

also i've never done a rouge playthrough, i wanna try the class out :0

[wanton pendant]

Rouge? Like the bat? When's the Sonic playthrough?

[frail hearth]

ah yes... basic spelling. we meet again you tricky little bastard you ;u;

rogue?

[wanton pendant]

That's the class with the stabbing.

[frail hearth]

nice got it 👍

man rouge and rogue are hard for me to spell sometimes cus like it's the same letters damn it and they both sound like "rogue" in my head ;0;

[brazen swallow]

spy from team fortress 2 is a rogue
amazing discovery

[wanton pendant]

I mean yeah he'd tell you that himself.

[brazen swallow]

it's ight
similar words are hell to type, specially if it's like where a single letter is

[brazen swallow]

true

[reef wigeon]

Rouge the Rogue is one of the best characters of Sonic, No discussion.

[wanton pendant]

Any special reason for saying this?

[reef wigeon]

And yes, I know it's "The Bat"

[reef wigeon]

No, I just wanted to say it

Im Draedon the royal scientist! Oops wrong sentence

[frail hearth]

I was always partial to Espio and Jett. Espio for aformentioned ninja coolness and Jett because hoverboards have a comparible coolness atribute to ninjas

I am a simple girl. Rule of Cool's the name of the game >u>

[magic epoch]

yharim

[wanton pendant]

Espio's current character struggle is being broke.

[frail hearth]

and he's so real for that

[wanton pendant]

So close, Yharim's not a Sonic character.

[frail hearth]

Ninja on a budget that's how you know he's one of the greats 🙏

[wanton pendant]

Chaotix are going through some stuff.

[brazen swallow]

yharim hunting several godly hedgedogs is a kinda funny image

[frail hearth]

who would win Sonic with prep time or Yahrim?

[reef wigeon]

I think Black Doom is the equivalent in lore, if we consider that Shadow is possibly the Terrarian in this case

[wanton pendant]

Black Doom wanted to eat people.

[reef wigeon]

Sonic, definitely

[wanton pendant]

If Yharon is anyone, it's Chaos.

[brazen swallow]

not sure if we know yharim's full potential

but we do know sonic is pretty powerful

[wanton pendant]

Yharim would be mauled by most Sonic characters.

[frail hearth]

I want Crush40 to write a song about it

[brazen swallow]

amazing

[reef wigeon]

Yes, now he's like a depressed man

[brazen swallow]

true

[wanton pendant]

I got it, Yharim's Zavok!

[reef wigeon]

Let's say he's not in his prime because of his emotional state.

[brazen swallow]

I mean he's the most powerful he's been with his armor but he has little to no will to do anything so yeah he'd probably lose

[frail hearth]

What cure's depression? The unrelenting power of teamwork and friendship! and these 7 cool rocks i found

[brazen swallow]

real

[wanton pendant]

Probably? If you put him against Sonic characters Yharim's just gonna die.

[reef wigeon]

What we do have to take into account is the Exotech upgrade that Draedon gave to his armor.

[frail hearth]

Tails Vs Dreadon

get on it deathbattle

[reef wigeon]

I think no one would know the answer

[wanton pendant]

Tails is meant to be able to compete with Eggman, who easily surpasses Draedon.

[pastel bay]

Debatable

[reef wigeon]

I mean, both of them knew or are related to a being that blatantly breaks the laws of causality and thermodynamics (probably)

[pastel bay]

Eggman just has more funding

[frail hearth]

yea but Dreadon dosen't have a funny nickname so eggman sweep

[reef wigeon]

That's me, that's me!!!

[frail hearth]

NOW THIS IS GOOD

[wanton pendant]

Eggman has built multiple machines that make the Exo Mechs look like scrap metal. One of these is a weapon that destroys stars.

[vagrant star]

Holy peak

[vagrant star]

It's like some king of a, star destroyer

[frail hearth]

Oh yea no. i don't remember the lore but like iirc Metal Sonic's fucking busted

[wanton pendant]

He is.

[pastel bay]

Metal sonic is literally sonic as a robot and is terrifying

[wanton pendant]

At full potential Metal Sonic could literally be one of the strongest beings in the canon.

[pastel bay]

Because Sonic has yet to reach a limit

[brazen swallow]

this is fantastic lmao

[reef wigeon]

Draedon trying to find a way to travel to other worlds as efficiently as possible:

[wanton pendant]

Even outside of that he's busted.

[pastel bay]

Meaning Metal will always scale higher

[split mortar]

Draedon loses to eggman cause eggman needs no explenation on how he made something bigger then the moon in 3 days

[frail hearth]

true true dreadon has yet to piss on the moon

[pastel bay]

Or he just brings out the eclipse canon

[wanton pendant]

I think in the comics Metal at one point just punches through Gemerl, who is supposed to be insanely strong.

[pastel bay]

Can confirm i should have the panel on hand

[reef wigeon]

I think that's already been debunked... Right?

[frail hearth]

Calamity Terrarian with prep time vs Metal Sonic

[split mortar]

Wait what

[reef wigeon]

Metal Sonic

[split mortar]

I was exaggerating…

[pastel bay]

Metal probably solos Yharim I wont lie

[frail hearth]

damn yall have no faith in your blorbos ;0;

[reef wigeon]

Yes yes, I understood.

[wanton pendant]

And Gemerl is meant to be crazy op.

[pastel bay]

Draedon would totally invent something like the metal virus

[brazen swallow]

I have little knowledge about sonic but in theory exo tech metal sonic vs yharim would be a thermonuclear bomb vs coughing baby scenario

[reef wigeon]

So... Proceeds to canonize Goozma/Nameless deity With legal loopholes

[wanton pendant]

Metal Sonic easily beats almost the entire cast, the issue is that he's usually fighting those who are in the 'almost' category.

[frail hearth]

well yea but like we've all got access to the same pool of mats, tools, armours and weapons is my saying. nuts to how they got there I mean like the adverage endgame player

[wanton pendant]

Neo Metal would make Embers Providence look like a tea party.

[frail hearth]

the terrarian's lore being up to me is my favorite lore loophole cus it lets me get away with shinanigans >:3

[pulsar ocean]

what if my terrarian is an offspring of goozma does that make goozma my comfort character canon in calamity mod

[frail hearth]

donor item not canon? too bad it looks cool and i crafted it so GUESS WHAT'S CANON NOW, FELLAS????? :D

[pastel bay]

If not canon why in game? Checkmate

[reef wigeon]

I will canonize Yukari, its decided

[frail hearth]

THAS RIGHT NOT EVEN CALAMITY CAN ESCAPE THE THRALLS OF THE RARE AND HIGHLY DANGEROUS HOMESTUCK REFFERENCE

shoutouts respiteblock.

[brazen swallow]

[pastel bay]

How does it always come back to homsestuck

[frail hearth]

that's like a double refference because It's a refference to Kanaya's Chainsaw/Lipstick which is itself a refference to a problem slueth character's Chainsaw/Lipstick.

[frail hearth]

I could not tell you. All i know is it's inescapable ;o;

fun fact, the perfectly generic cube of starbound/stars above is also a homestuck refference @-@

[wanton pendant]

Stars Above is a Terraria mod.

[frail hearth]

yep! one of it's weapon memories is the perfectly generic cube.

which is the item the alchemiter spits out if you place and uncarved cruxite totem and try crafting the item.

It's used similarly in Starbound, replaceing items that were either patched out/from uninstalled mods in a character's invintory

https://tenor.com/view/roxy-lalonde-homestuck-enrichment-roxy-lalonde-gif-8312268916508627367

gdi one day i'll embed a gif >:c

[wanton pendant]

Alright, we need lore questions.

[frail hearth]

sorrysorry >_>;

Etymology!

where the heck does azafur come from?

[wanton pendant]

Spanish for sulphur.

[frail hearth]

neat :D

[wanton pendant]

Which is Azufre.

[frail hearth]

damn ;0;

one day i'll spell a word right promise

[reef wigeon]

As a Spanish speaker, I confirm

[languid otter]

azafure got to be the hard ass name ngl

[frail hearth]

it's a cool sounding name but like sulpher also smells really bad x-x

[brazen swallow]

I can't imagine how azafure as a city smells like

[wanton pendant]

Sulphur and pollution.

[brazen swallow]

underworld + city + everything burning

oh yeah and pollution

[frail hearth]

prolly like Rotorua but stronger?

[brazen swallow]

*everything around at least

talking about pre-brimElemental azafure

[brazen swallow]

wha

[frail hearth]

it's a famous town here in NZ for it's hotsprings, but because of all the sulpher in the air it's not easy on the lungs x_x

[wanton pendant]

The Elemental was always here, just not... murdering.

[brazen swallow]

ye

[wanton pendant]

Don't be silly, New Zealand isn't real.

[brazen swallow]

ohhhh

[wanton pendant]

If it were, wouldn't it be on the map?

[frail hearth]

then why do i live there DUMMY >:U

[brazen swallow]

azafure is actually new zealand
calamity is real

[distant smelt]

Well yeah she was asleep basically right?

[brazen swallow]

collective hallucination caused by contact with exo crystals

[reef wigeon]

Mentioning Shaman King, Part 1: 5 grand elemental spirits, Spirit of Fire

[wanton pendant]

They also put brimstone in everything, for some reason.

[frail hearth]

ah dang i need to finish shaman king :0

i remember watching a bit of it when that netlix remake came out a while back but i never got around to finishing it

[reef wigeon]

Omg does anyone know Shaman King :DDD

[frail hearth]

it's been a hot minute so i prolly don't remember a lot xux

I just remember the MC had the unshakable chill of a very brave stoner

[distant smelt]

If ilmeris is italy how do they make pasta

[frail hearth]

tastily

and with plenty of garlic

[reef wigeon]

Possibly (?

[wanton pendant]

They're clearly Seacilian.

[reef wigeon]

They are Cilicians. Insert Sans audio with Trumpet

[wanton pendant]

That was Armenia at some point, for some reason.

[reef wigeon]

The Terrarian lore thing still confuses me.

[frail hearth]

Well that's up to you is the best part.

Ever made a tabletop roleplay character?

[reef wigeon]

The possibilities are endless... Well, not mathematically, but you understand

[reef wigeon]

Good idea, although a little chaotic

[wanton pendant]

Terrarian lore:
Can't do meta stuff.
Is not a pre-existing character in the plot.
Can't blatantly contradict the entire plot.
Is Goku.

[reef wigeon]

Anyway... Now, Portal Yukari Yakumo is canon

[frail hearth]

real

[wanton pendant]

Is that Goku?

[frail hearth]

Meta stuff is a lot of fun if handled correctly.

[wanton pendant]

Oh, wait, forgot the most important part;
Terrarian,
Is,
YOU!

[reef wigeon]

What do you mean by Meta Stuff

[wanton pendant]

No respawning and such.

Because that's only a game mechanic.

[reef wigeon]

Same feeling as
"ITS!
TV!
TIME!"

[frail hearth]

oh yea videogame logic stuff. canonically, you win every fight. how close you got to dying's totally up to you tho :D

[wanton pendant]

It's.

[wanton pendant]

Yeah, exactly.

Canonically, you win.

[reef wigeon]

Thx

[languid otter]

"not one death will go unaccounted for. NOT one!"

[frail hearth]

the real reason Willow dosen't have an arm anymore is because the eye of cuthulu bit it off when she failed to get out of the way of it in time

[wanton pendant]

Cthulhu, more like... uh... cut you... in two.

[reef wigeon]

Ah, okay.

I AM OMNIPOTENT

[reef wigeon]

But at the same time I am not, because if I am Omnipotent, it means that I can do everything, and if I can do everything, at the same time I can NOT be Omnipotent, the opposite of omnipotent... Do not use omnipotence as a basis for a plot, noted

[magic epoch]

i don't think that's how it works

[wanton pendant]

I am... all of me.

[frail hearth]

omnipotent character who loses all their comrades because they couldn't get to the fight in time u_u

[wanton pendant]

The Flash.

[reef wigeon]

I remember a meme of Shadow saying "I am... Half of me" next to Shadow split in two

[frail hearth]

the worst part of seeing and knowing all is not being able to stop it 0u0

[magic epoch]

hi my name is pale king (hollow knight)

[reef wigeon]

It works as you want because of the ambiguity of omnipotence

At least that's what I think.

[wanton pendant]

Pale King? Yeah, a lot of the ones in Europe were.

[magic epoch]

I don't think the ability to do anything = the ability to not do anything

[languid otter]

one of my terraria character's motive is like :
to beat the puripulent being [goozma] because they just want to

[wanton pendant]

Bad news; They're gonna be looking for a while.

[frail hearth]

vessel type terrarian who dosen't have a motivation for defeating the mod's bosses but ends up doing it because they keep finding themselves in situations™

[wanton pendant]

Kiryu?

[reef wigeon]

Yeah, that is the omnipotence that follows its nature

[distant smelt]

“Why do gods keep jumping me”

[reef wigeon]

If not, then it would be totally contradictory

Remember that Omnipotence is also linked to the Will

[frail hearth]

literally. Yahrim misreads their actions as trying to reach them, but the only reason they got this far was trying not to die and succeeding

[reef wigeon]

If the user doesn't want to, he doesn't do it, that's it.

[languid otter]

also the lore is basically :
one terrarian who got cursed to become serpentine [basically half snake thing]
they have to revert the curse but got way too distracted to slimes and ended up forgetting the main goal

and even getting used to it

[wanton pendant]

Yharim sees snake person and goes 'Ooh, a fellow dragon fan!'

[reef wigeon]

Dragon Quest player not knowing he won't find the dragon: questing their dragon

[frail hearth]

i had this idea for a character who was just the guide who somehow got stuck in a timeloop. the reason he dosen't have advice post providence is because that's as far as he'd ever gotten in the loop

[wanton pendant]

Everytime you beat Providence you use that one item from WotG that resets the world.

[reef wigeon]

Gold Experience Requiem moment

[frail hearth]

you get that like signifigantly post providence tho @u@;

[wanton pendant]

Cheating:

[frail hearth]

dragonlense isen't canon silly

i mean it can be but what's the fun in a godmode character? >_>;

[reef wigeon]

Or could you just make a mod that automates that...?

It's part of a mechanic so there are no problems with the lore

[pliant ruin]

the terrarian is me

not you

me

just me

hello. i am the terrarian

[magic epoch]

okay parmiigianoreggiano

[stoic gulch]

Can you please stop ruining the economy

[frail hearth]

OH MY GOSH

REAL TERRARIAN

[reef wigeon]

I guess the Calamity Mod doesn't have a specific leader anymore, right?

[magic epoch]

ozzatron

[frail hearth]

SO YOU'RE THE BASTARD WHO CRASHED MY STOCKS ;0;

[pliant ruin]

ok im gonna drink alcohol instead

[wanton pendant]

I thought you were Calamitas?

[wanton pendant]

Ozzatron.

[reef wigeon]

Sorry, I'm Poorly informed of the mod.

[stoic gulch]

NOH

[reef wigeon]

Thx

[pliant ruin]

:ozzatron:

[frail hearth]

killer name

makes me think of like

[magic epoch]

ozzathoth

[reef wigeon]

I suspected it

[frail hearth]

a slime mech >:D

[pliant ruin]

azathoth

my wife

[magic epoch]

i love my wife

[reef wigeon]

That time I got reincarnated into a Slime

[frail hearth]

ya but that one's not a mech so what's the point ;-;

i need GIANT ROBOTS parker!!!!

[wanton pendant]

'I miss my wife, Calamitas. I miss her a lot, I'll be back.' -Yharim.

[pliant ruin]

how do you even do a slime mech

[reef wigeon]

It works just like one

[pliant ruin]

like isnt the entire thing about slime that its well, fluid

a mech on the other hand is made of like metal and circuits and wires

[wanton pendant]

They're slime!

[pliant ruin]

which is not fluid

unless it was like a little robot inside of a gelatinous outer layer

[frail hearth]

i dunno, suit of armor and a dream?

[magic epoch]

likely more about trying to replicate how it acts and less the actual. Thing

[pliant ruin]

in which case i think that can work

[fallen kindle]

is slime slippery or sticky?

[reef wigeon]

And let's see, Mechanics is the term used to refer to the branch of physics that studies behavior and movement of the objects...

[pliant ruin]

idk but it's some sort of fluid

[magic epoch]

i believe it depends on the type of slime

[wanton pendant]

Counterpoint:

[reef wigeon]

Rimuru exceeds that, so...

[stoic gulch]

This is quite the slippery slope of a situation, maybe even a sticky situation

[reef wigeon]

Megaman Zero mentioned

[frail hearth]

fantasy bullshit science slime that's both gelatinous and yet another fictional material stronger and lighter than titanium?

[wanton pendant]

Yes.

[pliant ruin]

there are two options to make a slime mech and one is little robot inside a gelatinous outer layer and the other is made of a ferrofluid of some sort

[fallen kindle]

what about crimulean blight

[pliant ruin]

yeah see this

its like a little robot core with a big slime outer layer

thats a mech slime that can work truly

[frail hearth]

I'm sure if we dig far enough into Lancer's sourcebooks we'll find SOMETHING to work with... that game has mechs for EVERYTHING. even eldritch horrors >_>;

[reef wigeon]

Counterpoint: hydrogels, nanoparticles, electromagnetic fields, umm... Many things

[pliant ruin]

i'm not sure how any of those relate to a slime mech

[reef wigeon]

It can allow artificial mechanical functions in the elasticity of a slime

Trust me, I'm Draedon

[frail hearth]

well for it to really be a mech it dosen't really matter what it's made of. it just needs a cool deployment/launch sequence and a fuckoff huge gun or sword >:D

[pliant ruin]

yeah but im not talking about mechanical physics im talking about a mech as in like a big ass robot

[reef wigeon]

So, I agree with this.

[pliant ruin]

that ones pretty cool

it gets the slime mech seal of approval

[frail hearth]

is it like ok to talk eva spoilers or like is that classic enough to where it's still rude no matter how old it is? >_>

[wanton pendant]

What's Eva?

[pastel bay]

Evangelion?

[pliant ruin]

ive watched all of eva and i dont think anyone would care otherwise so go for it

[frail hearth]

shorthand for neon genisis evangellion

[reef wigeon]

I wonder the same thing

[frail hearth]

typing eva's just way shorter and easier ;u;

[pastel bay]

Oh god which ending

[reef wigeon]

AAAAAAAH, well I haven't seen it

[pliant ruin]

unless theres specifically someone in chat whos avoiding eva spoilers no reason to worry abt it

[reef wigeon]

Yeah, I'm not that kind of person, proceed

[pastel bay]

All fine by me I just have to mentally prepare myself for something either soul crushing or hope

[wanton pendant]

That's the one about the patriarchy, right?

[pliant ruin]

the what

[frail hearth]

...there's more than one? I was under the impression it was ||some kind of fucked up timeloop where everything was canon and happened the whole time|| >_>

[pliant ruin]

shinji is my favorite quirked up white boy

[reef wigeon]

GER moment

[reef wigeon]

And also the "everything is canon" of Sonic

[pliant ruin]

well hes one of my favorite quirked up white boys theres a few

[frail hearth]

||the good ending relys on shinji realizing that being a little gay is like totally fine and also his dad is a huge asshole||

[pliant ruin]

denji and laios are up there too

[pastel bay]

||Yeah it is, all 3 happen, though Rebuild is implied to be some other time after? Weird, universe repeats itself stuff||

||Rebuild leaves me with hope End Of leaves me with dread||

[reef wigeon]

I finished watching AoT recently.

[wanton pendant]

They are certainly quirky.

[pliant ruin]

anime discussion

[pastel bay]

Its all lore relevant

[wanton pendant]

I don't watch enough anime to follow, if we're being honest.

[reef wigeon]

It's to theorize about the macrocosmic and quantum possibilities of Calamity Mod, all good

[pliant ruin]

ive been reading one piece if that counts for anything

[stoic gulch]

Laios like the country?

[pliant ruin]

that usopp guy yeah hes pretty funny

[wanton pendant]

That's Laos.

[pliant ruin]

no skelli not like the country

[frail hearth]

Look the worldbuilding and mechanics of Evangellion is PARAMOUNT to understanding calamity lore (get in the robot, Terrarian. or else Calamitas will have to do it again)

[pastel bay]

Draedon is a huge Kojima fan where else did he get inspiration for Murasama.

I have no doubt he's also a huge weeb

[wanton pendant]

Don't make her do it again!!!

[wanton pendant]

Bad news.

[pliant ruin]

im still sober

i think

relatively

[frail hearth]

who would win. Gendo or Yahrim

[wanton pendant]

Who?

[distant smelt]

Get in the shell, calamitas (clone)

[pulsar ocean]

evangelion wouldve been so much better if they didnt run out of budget for the final 2 episodes

[stoic gulch]

Why not

[pliant ruin]

i mean if we're talking like a 1v1 gendo is literally just a guy and yharim is Yharim

[pastel bay]

fuck, it's dedicted content I forgot

[reef wigeon]

Come to think of it, with Draedon's Exotech, a tech battle is over from the first microsecond.

[pliant ruin]

but if you include the entire evangelions and stuff then uhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh idk lol im not a powerscaler

[wanton pendant]

So, that's a guy.

[pastel bay]

Hang on let me get the other image

[frail hearth]

It's the most iconic Gendo image i could think of @u@;

[wanton pendant]

Do they both use child soldiers?

[pliant ruin]

yharim vs madoka kaname blindfolded paralyzed sick/tired

[frail hearth]

He's shinji's aformentioned shitty dad

[pastel bay]

Spoiler warning for Evangelion Rebuil

[frail hearth]

and a freak

[pastel bay]

d

[distant smelt]

Come on at least give yharim a chance to survive for 20 seconds

[frail hearth]

Madoka would sweep him ez

power of timeloops baybeeee

[pliant ruin]

the true answer is that madoka wouldnt do anything and yharim would then be defeated by his own mental collapse as he realizes he has no power over the universe itself and he has no hope of fighting a fundamental law of reality

it would be like fighting gravity

or fighting . i dont know. thermodynamics

[wanton pendant]

So Draedon wins.

[frail hearth]

Dreadon and the Kyubes would get along swimmingly >_>;

[pliant ruin]

well if draedon can literally erase gravity from the universe then yeah but i don't think he can

[wanton pendant]

He does violate thermodynamics.

[reef wigeon]

"Exotechnology allows me to process instructions and information at lightspeed."
"...Thanks to this, I can connect to any conceivable technology. My Exomechs are an extension of my will"

[distant smelt]

I fight gravity by jumping

[pliant ruin]

I think they'd strike up some pretty good business deals

daring today are we

[reef wigeon]

Something like that had been explained in his dialogues

[pliant ruin]

Their motivations aren't like the same but they're close enough where i think they could get mutual benefit from eachother

Plus they both have a repertoire of knowledge and resources the others don't

[pulsar ocean]

i dont remember him doing that

[wanton pendant]

What I'm hearing is that three gay guys could kill Yharim.

[pliant ruin]

incubators and draedon would honestly probably get along very nicely on that basis + lack of emotion and a moral compass on both of their ends

[feral skiff]

is there an official Yharim sprite or will it be the same as the melee Auric Tesla armor

[reef wigeon]

This is usually ignored in powerscaling, and it usually piss me off when talking about battles.

[pastel bay]

Happened in rebuild. Third movie iirc?

[wanton pendant]

Not yet.

[pliant ruin]

whar

[languid otter]

I don't watch much anime besides naruto [yea that anime aired on my local tv channel loooong ago when I was younger]
I watched few. like akame ga kill [dropped in episode 8] and kanon [2006]

kanon got me cried so hard specifically in certain part

[pliant ruin]

this isnt even powerscaling or battles

[reef wigeon]

In fact, he has his Tesla auric armor, but enhanced with Draedon's Exotech.

[strong notch]

you fight gravity by trying to push planet away but you get pushed away instead

[wanton pendant]

I don't know what any of those are.

[reef wigeon]

Yes, that's why I say it

[feral skiff]

my theory is that it’ll look a lot more fancy to distinguish him from the player

[pastel bay]

I hope he's player sized

[wanton pendant]

He has concept art, but no sprites. Because he's years away.

[feral skiff]

since the player will have the same tier of equipment

[wanton pendant]

He's taller.

[pliant ruin]

its just a hypothetical scenario regarding the relationships between different characters

[pastel bay]

By how much

[wanton pendant]

He's eight foot, Terrarian is less than six.

[pastel bay]

Oh so not by a ridiculous ammount

[reef wigeon]

What piss me off is ignoring those features in combat, I'm not on the side of powerscaling.

[pastel bay]

Just need to bring a stepstool

[pliant ruin]

what features

[reef wigeon]

I hadn't read anything, thanks for the explanation.

[pliant ruin]

wuh

[wanton pendant]

Calamity fan moment.

Did you see that!?

[languid otter]

no

[reef wigeon]

I had read a little but was confused because my native language is Spanish

Well... Dead chat?

[strong notch]

Dead

[pliant ruin]

alchhol

[strong notch]

or more like

lack of topic for now

[reef wigeon]

Jeanne, use your Shamash kiss to revive the chat.

[wanton pendant]

You've lost me.

[pliant ruin]

lachol

alc

[reef wigeon]

Arc

God Arc

Why th do I make references that no one will understand

[wanton pendant]

Banned, sorry.

[reef wigeon]

Why I did that

[visual harbor]

the lore is what the bosses drop on the first death?

[reef wigeon]

The item Lore, yeah

[visual harbor]

the whispers thingY?

[reef wigeon]

Yeah

[pastel bay]

Do we think draedon actively engages with video games just to study the ai and optimize the shit out of things

[frail hearth]

he makes TAS speedruns that get banned because nobody beleives he didn't cheat. He's currently studying optimal levels of suck to inject into his runs to make them look passable as real

[pastel bay]

Thats why he's studying us we're the perfect type of stupid he needs

[split mortar]

Those from the perspective of yharim

Its not completely unbiased

[pastel bay]

Very interesting to see his view of us change as you progress

[visual harbor]

is Yharim yharon but in human form?

[split mortar]

No they are different people

[visual harbor]

Oh

[split mortar]

Hence why you can get lore items after you kill yharon

Yharim is incredibly biased so take what he says with a pinch of salt

[brazen swallow]

yharon being yharim's dragonsona in another universe is a funny concept lmao

[magic epoch]

nonono!! they're all prewritrrn!!!

[pastel bay]

Draedon attempts to beat the terrarian in a fighting game only to lose because the terrarian is so wildly unpredictable he could have never imagined after the 8th whiff of a counter in a row they'd go for the 9th

[wanton pendant]

Yharim's a Doctor Doom main.

[pastel bay]

I hate having to draw armor and now ive convinced myself to draw Yharim mid foot-dive what have you done

[reef wigeon]

I just read your bio. It's the most hilarious thing I've ever read LMAO

[thick slate]

im inclined to not believe you

[fallen kindle]

is it really that funny

[brazen swallow]

lmfao this image
it's so good

[pastel bay]

Its kind of average

[fallen kindle]

i guess

[reef wigeon]

No, it's just an exaggeration. But yes, I laughed for a while

[visual harbor]

Hum

[visual harbor]

What univers are you from Felix Draedon? 😭

[thick slate]

so many draedons

[visual harbor]

lol

They're can be only one

(jk)

[thick slate]

dime a dozen

[visual harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/draedon-gif-14852895107527072338

...

oh

[thick slate]

oh

[visual harbor]

or i become yharim 🤓

[fallen kindle]

dozen of draedons for sale

only costs a dime

[visual harbor]

...

DONT SELL ME

Ima create some armor for you :n

🤓 *

[fallen kindle]

you’re valuable machinery

think of all the dubious plating

[visual harbor]

Wait

[fallen kindle]

think of the mysterious circuitry

[visual harbor]

NOO

[fallen kindle]

to the scrap station

[visual harbor]

Wait sell me i can just tp out? or make a portal?

[zenith geode]

what if you thought about the dubious circuitry instead

[visual harbor]

WOW

[thick slate]

what if we meow

[visual harbor]

Moew

[split mortar]

No

[visual harbor]

moew*

[thick slate]

aw okay

[visual harbor]

https://tenor.com/view/meowmere-gif-1277917381954644893

..

forgot bout this

[fallen kindle]

heresy

[split mortar]

I think this draedon is lacking a bit of ram

[fallen kindle]

we would meow, probably

[visual harbor]

wants*

[mighty zenith]

hi prob dont joke about that though

[visual harbor]

Yea sry

[mighty zenith]

👍

[visual harbor]

bro why shiny bro

1/4096 ahh

[split mortar]

Draedon evolved

Into yharim

[visual harbor]

Yes

Btw quick question Yharim was a basic terrarian like the player?

[reef wigeon]

I'm still Draedon, very guudto

[visual harbor]

Ye

[reef wigeon]

I think so

[visual harbor]

And so were calamitas?

[reef wigeon]

Only we are not Yharim

[visual harbor]

Yea i know

[reef wigeon]

I don't think so.

[split mortar]

The terrarian is whatever you want
But even then only kinda
Yharim is attuned with yharon giving him mainly lengthened life span and vitality and allowed to touch auric without exploding

[reef wigeon]

Don't ask me, I'm just the royal scientist E.M Draedon

[visual harbor]

Bro draedon created everything or??

[reef wigeon]

No, it just caused several catastrophes

[split mortar]

The clone is a success cause she is biologically calamitas
Its just
The magic isnt naturally hers so the clone got jack shit

[reef wigeon]

Like the plague, Calamitas Clone, mechanical trio, etc.

[visual harbor]

he made the plague...

?*

[split mortar]

Yes

[reef wigeon]

Yes

[split mortar]

Its why he got kicked

Fusing bees and nukes was not a liked thing by yharim (the real issue was slavery)

[reef wigeon]

He was kicked and subsequently banned from the server "Yharim's Army"

[visual harbor]

ah

[mighty zenith]

yharim's standards are all over the place

[split mortar]

Draedon also made astrum aureus

[mighty zenith]

this is, because, he's an asshole

[split mortar]

Slavery is bad but grooming a super traumatised minor to nuke italy is fine

[reef wigeon]

Yes, I forgot that detail

[reef wigeon]

Yeah

And taking the bodies of the deceased into a dungeon to form an amalgam of souls, and taking the bodies to an already polluted ocean is totally fine. 👍

[split mortar]

Wha

Isnt the sulphuric sea bodies stuff old lore

[reef wigeon]

I don't know bro

[split mortar]

-# and they were alive before polterghast happened

-# the people in the dungeon

[reef wigeon]

Stop blaming me for polluting the ocean, it's the ocean god's fault for putting the ocean there. 🧠

[twin stone]

But that's not how it works

lol

[reef wigeon]

Yeah thats how it works, science says it 🧠

[twin stone]

Afaik the ocean an the abyss were around pre Deific Era so no, thats not how it works

[reef wigeon]

It work the way I say because science says s- Oh no, miscalculation, it can't be possible ahhhhh

Every time I come back, the chat dies. Draedon is too boring byeeee

[strong notch]

What happened here again?

[real glen]

happened what

[wanton pendant]

Nothing?

[bitter cave]

Ok dude

[twin stone]

Mods?

[split mortar]

Wha

[wanton pendant]

Something happened here.

[jaunty wraith]

Probably a crypto scammer or troll

[bitter cave]

It was a crypto scammer

[frail hearth]

invest in Yahrimcoin

big stonks

[wanton pendant]

Would Calamitas fall for a crypto scam?

[split mortar]

Well crypto prob doesnt exist so she would not know to avoid that sorts thing
So probably idk

[dense nebula]

is catastrophe and cataclysm robots in the calamitas fight?

[wanton pendant]

No.

She's a necromancer.

They're reanimated corpses.

[dense nebula]

ooh oh yea

forgot

ty

for some reason i thought they were robots idk why

[split mortar]

I dont blame you for catastrophe that guy looks robotic

[dense nebula]

yep

[split mortar]

Of her brothers

[dense nebula]

i wonder

can they talk

[split mortar]

Prob not, necromancy has fucked up their mind to the point of wanting to protect their sister being one of the last bits of themselves remaining iirc

[pulsar ocean]

why didnt she just do the necromancy better

[wanton pendant]

Her name isn't Yharon.

Which is important.

[split mortar]

Necromancy flawed so not allat possible

[wanton pendant]

Says it right in the spellbook.

'To use Necromany to its fullest potential, your name must be Yharon.'

Weird rule.

[pulsar ocean]

like the jetstream sam and murasama situation

[light linden]

I mean

there's a reason why necromancy and rebirth are separate

[wanton pendant]

Yeah, because there's only one guy named Yharon.

The devs don't want you to know this, but nobody names themselves Yharon because it's a name for nerds, like Yharon.

[reef wigeon]

Imagine your Terrarian is a Necromancer and you name him Yharon. And that's it! you have necromancy at its maximum power.

[long bloom]

devs add this

[reef wigeon]

I think in having Calamitas' weapons as the restored original bodies or something like that idk

[inner pasture]

A question, was Calamitas Clone created by Calamitas herself, or by Draedon?

[sinful adder]

It was made by draedon

How would Calamitas make a clone of herself?

Draedon took some stuff from Calamitas at some point to clone her. The clone didn't have her magic. The original Calamitas later found out and freed her

And in the process gave her some magic

[inner pasture]

I guess that magic made that clone go mad; and that clone, I guess, tried to create his own versions of his brothers.

[long bloom]

...his??

[eager bluff]

yeah iirc clone tried to resurrect her brothers but due to being entirely insane and not having control over her own powers it ended with. donuts and croissants

[inner pasture]

If you notice I'm writing strangely, it's because I use a translator to speak here. I can read English, but not speak it.

[long bloom]

i see

[inner pasture]

Yummi

[eager bluff]

not literal donuts and croissants

thats just what clone brothers look liek

[inner pasture]

Will they redesign them?

[eager bluff]

eventually yes

[inner pasture]

I don't remember where, I saw an illustration of a skull-shaped machine, and inside, there was some kind of Calamitas doppelganger.

[eager bluff]

i believe theres a current redesign process happening for them, as with nearly all bosses, but that has yet to see the light of day

[eager bluff]

thats the old redesign concept, got scrapped

[inner pasture]

Maybe the next update will bring redesigns for DoG and Yharon, maybe for Old Duke, right?

[eager bluff]

no

not next update

dog is waiting on like 7 other things to be done for the sprite to be implemented and him to finally get his rework

yharon and duke are both unfinished sprites

[inner pasture]

The developers are chambeando, I'm hyped

[wanton pendant]

Old Duke is also getting taken out back and put down, having his corpse resurrected and a new guy is taking his job.

[north root]

old duke is getting botox and a rhinoplasty

not to mention six face lifts and a couple liposuctions

maybe a platysmaplasty if the budget allows

[wanton pendant]

Most of these words are not in the bible.

[north root]

the bible didn't have modern medicine yeah

ooh he definitely needs a dermabrasion

[wanton pendant]

Don't scrape the poor Duke's skin!?

All he ever did was enslave the children!

[north root]

if we scrape off all of his protective scales off he will die upon reentering the sulphurous sea

[visual sphinx]

are god slayer knights still apart of the lore?

or am i hallucinating their existence

[north root]

they do exist yes

[pastel bay]

Do you think Scal reacted like Spiderman in that one comic when we give her a house to live in

[pliant ruin]

they're mroe so reffered to as godseeker knights but yeah p much

the "elites" of yharim's army essentially, the strongest soldiers on it

[frosty charm]

how tall do you guys think statis is

[pulsar ocean]

how would old duke taste like

[north root]

sand-covered rotting defrosted canadian bacon except its radioactive and too tough to chew

[odd magnet]

That’s scrapped? What’s the idea for clone gonna be then??

[pulsar ocean]

calamitas but weaker

[odd magnet]

That’s kinda

Shit

[pulsar ocean]

not every clone has to pilot a mech..

[odd magnet]

Wasn’t saying it did, I’m just saying a weaker scal is just gonna be boring

People say we got a too many bosses problem and we’re using one of those spaces for just a weaker version of one of the final bosses?

[long bloom]

says who?

[sinful adder]

The giant eye is iconic and should be kept

[mighty zenith]

The mech should be kept

the eye design should be changed

[snow mountain]

garbo's robot bias

[mighty zenith]

:3

[snow mountain]

the eye should be kept but like not really

if slop incarnate is kept then why not make it memorable by making it grotesque as fuck

[mighty zenith]

theres already a robotic eye boss like right before calclone

[snow mountain]

a greater resemblance to brimmy (whatever dia's new design looks like) could work

except wayy more body horror

[frosty charm]

Any ideas/HCs on what statis' personality is like since his chapter is coming up but I am really unaware of how to handle him

[pulsar ocean]

idk who even cares about statis

[frosty charm]

I have to

[dusk laurel]

always bet on calclone's mech brother

[odd magnet]

I lost my non existent respect for you

[dusk laurel]

basically calclone herself will be a more fucked up version of scal physically and she has a mech brother that was supposed to imitate scal's actual brothers

[odd magnet]

Mech brother

[dusk laurel]

yea

[odd magnet]

Neat

[pulsar ocean]

But like, who cares about statis

[odd magnet]

People

I care about all the characters personally

Except for old duke, current ravager and maybe polterghast

[long bloom]

wait when was this public

[dusk laurel]

triangle talked about it in cst a while ago

[long bloom]

of course he did

triangleposting remains undefeated

[twin stone]

I thought everyone knew that calclone was being made into a humanoid

[long bloom]

the brothers, not calamitas

[pulsar ocean]

Idk
Sterling

[pliant ruin]

nothing implies calclone is some grotesque abomination right now so im pretty sure shes literally just a person

unless she somehow turned into a grotesque abomination after being released by the actual cal

which idk how that would happen

she's just mentally fucked

[young socket]

i think ppl are taking "nothing human remains" in the bestiary too literally

[pliant ruin]

what the fuck is a metaphor dot png

[pliant ruin]

it's boring if you take it completely at face value and don't realize every single concept is boring if you only look at it through a baseline and nothing else

[frail hearth]

dehuminization in fiction's cool. it makes me feel seen smile emoji ;u;

[frail hearth]

waitor waitor 90 billion CCs of metaphor and allegory please

[pliant ruin]

i for one think that there's far more potential for interesting narrative with calclone being, quite literally ,just a calamitas clone, than yet another grotesque flesh monster which we have like quite a few of already, we've covered The Horrors of Necromancy and The Horrors of Science a few times as is

[frail hearth]

i NEEED to be on my SYMBOLIC SHINANIGANRY or i will die

like how a lesbian dies if she dosne't mack on at least 10 girls a day

[frail hearth]

I always figured the gross eye lookin thing was like dreadon's cloning process going horribly wrong because of some fuckery on behalf of cal lending the clone some of her brimstone magic

[pliant ruin]

Draedon's cloning went perfectly well

It's just that Calamitas's powers aren't genetic

[split mortar]

Draedon fucking up at clining would be weird

[pliant ruin]

so the result is literally Just a Girl

[split mortar]

Clones irl have been made iirc

[pliant ruin]

The eye mech is just a outdated sprite that has no bearing in the current lore, people assume it does due to iban's scrapped concept art going around and people assuming it's still being used

[woeful hatch]

Well, for sheep yes

[split mortar]

And draedon is centuries ahead of us

[woeful hatch]

For humans, not sure, but it shouldn't be a problem, science wise

[frail hearth]

how's the wolly mamoth going? last i checked on cloning we were working getting those big guys up and kicking again

[woeful hatch]

It's only a problem ethics wise

[pliant ruin]

yeah cloning's a thing that happens irl so Draedon out of all people failing at cloning a human would be

bizzare

[split mortar]

Calclone biologically is a perfect clone
Magic just doesnt care she is biologically the same

[frail hearth]

prolly not for a while... ethics aside the human genome is fuckey. i think science would at least want a deeper understanding of just what the hell the brain does before trying to clone it >m<

[pliant ruin]

I think narratively calclone just being a mindless flesh monster just

Loses alot of the narrative potentail you have with her

[frail hearth]

we can clone individual body parts off of other animals tho. i remember reading forever ago taht we had successfully grown a human ear on a mouse or something?

[pliant ruin]

on a setting that

already has alot of grotesque evil mindless flesh monsters

Like Ravager is literally what Calclone would be but better due to the added element of tragedy of it

[woeful hatch]

Ah that's not just cloning, that'd require more genetic engineering

Cloning is a less complicated process overall than that, given as you need to transplant the nucleus of one of the cells from the being you want to clone into another being's egg cells (and get rid of the nucleus in said new host cell)

Generally, I mean

[split mortar]

And is kinda like
Thats ravager

[pulsar ocean]

if an auric dragon died were their powers just lost or transferred to their children or something

[frail hearth]

yeyea I like calone having sapience

[woeful hatch]

They were reborn by yharon

[pliant ruin]

calclone if she was a grotesque flesh monster would be Worse Ravager imo

[woeful hatch]

The dragon of rebirth

[split mortar]

They rebirthed

By yharon

[pliant ruin]

because, again

the reason ravager lore is actually really cool is primarily because of the tragedy of it

[split mortar]

If that dragon is rebdered dead forever somehow then so is their power

[pliant ruin]

old lore ravager didn't have much of the tragedy and was just a flesh golem build by desperate cultists which is a neat bit of trivia but it's just kinda There

[frail hearth]

imagine your life if you knew almost nothing besides that you're a test tube baby, and you share the face of one of the world's most notorious war criminals

[pulsar ocean]

Ok what if they got hit with something death'y like what moonlord has

[split mortar]

Then the powers gone

[pliant ruin]

calclone would be way harder to pull that tragedy off fundamentally if she was a malformed grotesque clone because she'd just have been made that way, and even if it was something that happened later

[woeful hatch]

See, cloning as we have now is just making a copy that's GENETICALLY the same as another being

But it can still be changed by environment, etc, and needs to be born and grown normally like any other being

We haven't done it on humans for ethical reasons for the most part

[pliant ruin]

It's hard to be as tragic as a god loved by his people who literally sacrificed himself for them only to be forced to turn into a mindlessly destructive being

And on a third element, EVEN IF calclone pulled it off

[frail hearth]

wowza. i had no idea we made such progress on clones :0

[pliant ruin]

well having the same story beat twice is kinda boring aint it

[split mortar]

Yea

[frail hearth]

so does this mean we can make dinos from fossles yet :D

[pliant ruin]

so yeah tl;dr i think calclone as a gross flesh monster is a idea that's overhyped and not really that interesting

in a ironic way i think calclone being a person is a more unique idea and her being a flesh monster is actually the more basic one

[split mortar]

Dont think fossils preserve the dna

[pliant ruin]

dna can't exist for longer than like a few thousand years

bringing back non avian dinosaurs is just impossible

unless we fuck things up with quantum physics and time travel or smth

[frail hearth]

man why hasen't science done anything cool yet >:c

[young socket]

i mean we could always try recreating dinosaurs

but uhh

[frail hearth]

like the closest it's gotten to anything awesome was the internet and HRT but like really???? we're how many years into humankind and we STILL don't have dinosaurs again?????????

[young socket]

theyd kinda need an environment for them to live in

which we dont have

[split mortar]

it often has to have monetary incentive im pretty sure
Cause
Money

[long bloom]

there's 6 movies explaining why that's bad

[pliant ruin]

no like we literally cant

also friendly reminder that the message of jurassic park was never "bringing back dinosaurs is bad"

everytime i see someone say that even as a joke a angel loses its wings

[young socket]

wtf

i dont want gabriel to lose her wings,,,,

[split mortar]

Free chicken wings

[young socket]

no one say that phrase anymore

for any reason

[long bloom]

the message is that it will inevitably be bad bc something something hubris

[pliant ruin]

no

thats not the message

well hubris yes

but not inevitably be bad

[frail hearth]

i remember someone showerd me jurrasic park at some point but i've forgetting basically everything about the movie besides "clever girl" and the fact it was a revolutional feat of computer graphics/practical effects for it's time

[pliant ruin]

it's about responsibility and the hubris of doing things without thinking about the consequences

jurassic park couldve literally worked

[frail hearth]

I want stegosauruses back.

we need more goofy long neck herbavores

[young socket]

"just dont be stupid" is a great theme tbh

[pliant ruin]

a very notable moment in the first movie

[long bloom]

true

[pliant ruin]

is that grant is actually enamoured by the park initially

[young socket]

one is more than enough

[pliant ruin]

i mean why wouldnt he be

but the first time

you can tell just by his look "maybe they didnt plan things too well." is when dr wu says they have velociraptors

[frail hearth]

you spread decites and falsehoods beyond even the most cunning silvertounged manipulators

one means we need FAR MORE

[pliant ruin]

jurassic park couldve ottally worked if hammond actually planned things through and didnt act on impulse like

start small

also

do a bakcground check on your employees

[frail hearth]

Calamity needs a giraffe or stegosaurus boss

[pliant ruin]

and also pay them properly

[split mortar]

No more bosses

[pliant ruin]

and dont have tyrannosaurus and velociraptor in your park

have like a tiny stupid herbivore dinosaur

[frail hearth]

give me unserious long horse or give me death

[pliant ruin]

the entire message of jurassic park is how hammond was too blinded by his dream to realize how the shit he was doing was Bad

it was only when he finally got the truth nuke that The People He Loves Are In Danger Because Of Him did he lock in and decide

yeah you know what it's not worth doing this if it means my kids are gonna die

but yeah this isn't calamity lore

[woeful hatch]

Well, our environmental conditions don't really encourage it sadly

Dinosaurs (especially the larger ones like apatosaurus) lived at a time where, apparently, there was much more oxygen in the air compared to now. And that made larger plants, which also meant longer necks to reach the foliage to eat it.

[frail hearth]

it could be :3

[wanton pendant]

Jurassic Park discussion.

[pliant ruin]

i was talking about calclone but then tangentially went into jurassic park because of a joke

[young socket]

yea lets talk about more calamity related

like mega mammoth dragon

[long bloom]

true

[real silo]

counterpoint

frost wall mammoth

[frail hearth]

I feel a little bad that every time i'm here i contribute a non-zero ammount to derailing the topic from calamity lore >u>;

[young socket]

TRUE

[frail hearth]

I promise i want to tlak lore i'm just very autistic and by extention excited and easily distracted ;0;

[real silo]

Red death from httyd is a real calamity mod dragon

[split mortar]

I think a lot of people here are

[frail hearth]

like i'd say how much i miss the alicorn princess mount and how much i love the party cannon but like that could easily spin into a pony infodump so epic and longwinded it'd be grounds for a ban ;u;

[woeful hatch]

Do y'all think the amount of fresh water in the jungle lead to MORE civilizations in it/close to it like how rivers did for many ancient cities, or did the more hostile environment lead to LESS civilizations there

Because we do hear of presumably at least two civilizations there (lizhards and the ones that made plantera, which seem to be separate ) but they don't necessarily seem too advanced either

[pliant ruin]

that's funny to think about isnt it

Like the two biggest freshwater sources in the hearthlands are either

[frail hearth]

I feel like with how bountiful it is there's gotta be SOMEONE living there right?

[woeful hatch]

Well we do know of someone living there

The lizhards are there

[pliant ruin]

illmeris

hell tropics full of 300 predators

[frail hearth]

I haven't gotten around to it in a playthrough yet but i always daydream about making the giant mohogony tree's behive into like a bee themed bumble town :D

[pliant ruin]

vernal pass too

vernal pass was probably inhabited by silva followers im pretty sure

[frail hearth]

a damn shame the whacky npc mod has literally 2 lizhard furnitures to choose from ;0;

[long bloom]

i think so yeah

[woeful hatch]

......you know I always thought of ilmeris as the sunken SEA so I thought "clearly it's saltwater" but if it's an aquifer it'd actually be freshwater wouldn't it

[split mortar]

Havent heard of that before

[split mortar]

Its brackish i think?

[pliant ruin]

its not confirmed but i mean, braelor's pet lives there

[frail hearth]

can you boil the salt outta water? >_>;

[pliant ruin]

and brealor is like the silva guy

[split mortar]

Wait what

[pliant ruin]

i imagine it being brackish

[long bloom]

critter contest

[frail hearth]

like is the sunken sea freshwater now or is science not like that

[split mortar]

Oh

[real silo]

Brackish like

Brackish flash

flask

[long bloom]

brackish water is like brine i think

[pliant ruin]

It's a sea but it's like completely separated from the actual ocean

[long bloom]

oh

[pliant ruin]

Brackish water is basically a mix of freshwater and saltwater

[split mortar]

Pluh

[pliant ruin]

yeah checks out

[long bloom]

nods

[pliant ruin]

irl it tends to happen in say mangrove swamps where the ocean connects to lakes/rivers

[woeful hatch]

Yes, but the way you do it, is you boil the water it leaves the salt behind, it condenses, and then the water after it condenses is without salt

But since it presumably condensed ELSEWHERE it'd leave the salt to be dissolved in the remaining water making it MORE salty

[frail hearth]

dang. the fish in the sunken have it ROUGH ;0;

slightly less salty and NZ fish and chips

-# seriously the ammount of salt people use in food here is unreasonable >_>

[wanton pendant]

It can't be that bad.

[woeful hatch]

I mean, the current sunken sea has literal crystals growing on the fish already

They're not salt crystals but I'm sure those minerals probably don't help make it any less salty

Unless the sea prisms are entirely pure and don't dissolve in water at all

[frail hearth]

I'm american by birth dude trust the salt in food here is IMENCE ;0;

tho still notably less than the ammount generated by a single match of league of legends

[wanton pendant]

The Sea Prisms are magic.

[frail hearth]

where they always magic or did brimstone nuking have something to do with their properties do you think?

[pliant ruin]

They're blessed by Otonilou but i do wonder

[split mortar]

Sea prisms generate electricity

[pliant ruin]

what the hell are they in their natural state

[woeful hatch]

Yeah but they CANT be made 100% out of magic

[split mortar]

Draedon can grow god blessings

[woeful hatch]

They gotta have some base physical structure

[pliant ruin]

I mean yeah i'm pretty sure by "growing" draedon means

you know

[woeful hatch]

Or what if otonilou's blessing just changed their physical structure and draedon just replicates it

[pliant ruin]

getting a sample of sea prism and putting it under certain conditions to grow

i dont think he literally

creates them out of thin air

[split mortar]

Yea

[pliant ruin]

that's something you can do with real minerals too so like

[frail hearth]

i never understood that tbh.

i have a geology friend i could ask but they are asleep right now @-@

[woeful hatch]

Usually the way you do it requires you to have the crystals already dissolved in a liquid and you just give them a nucleation point though

[wanton pendant]

You plant your crystals, water and and care for them and you get a harvest of more crystals.

[woeful hatch]

If im not mistaken

[pliant ruin]

all minerals were created in some way in nature, you can use certain chemical processes to make more of it, specially when it comes to basically "budding" by making more out a small sample

its basically like growing a plant but more complicated and costy and time consuming and generally not something most people can do

depends on the mineral thoiugh

regardless

[wanton pendant]

Then there's diamond. Heat and pressure, so we make coal do a test in the summer.

[frail hearth]

it'd be kinda sick to see a gemstone farm in person >u<

i'm imagining like a greenhouse of different colorful rocks QuQ

[pliant ruin]

I wonder if they were literally just Sea Prisms or if that name came after the blessing

What if they were just salt rocks 🥀

[woeful hatch]

You can GROW crystals but you need the material to make them already, it's just you're giving it a crystalline structure, as far as I know

Like be it salt crystals, or bismuth crystals, etc

So that means that Draedon would need sea prisms to make more sea prisms, or that sea prisms can enlarge using common substances dissolved in liquid (presumably water)

[pliant ruin]

yep

[frail hearth]

has anyone in lore tried griding some onto some fries and seeing how it tastes?

[split mortar]

Probably not good since they generate electricity

[frail hearth]

✨ D I V I N E C H I P S ✨

[frail hearth]

every good food needs a lil kick to it :y

[pliant ruin]

Electric dust could be theoretically seful i think albeit i don't know for what

[split mortar]

Seful?

[pliant ruin]

Useful* typo

[wanton pendant]

How desperate do you think Calamitas was for food? She might be our answer!

[frail hearth]

scraping the sea prisim out of the electric wiring of my NPC prison

[pliant ruin]

I mean

I don't think Calamitas would. do that.

Might be the worst thing she COULD possibly do

[wanton pendant]

No salt on her chips? Is she insane!?

[woeful hatch]

I think they mean before she joined the crusade

[frail hearth]

I don't think she was too hungy, every like 3 trees drops a fruit and mushrooms are both edible and EVERYWHERE

[pliant ruin]

i am now going to the place i blew up as a child to. eat the crystals made with the power of the benevolent goddess i killed.

[frail hearth]

plus i'm sure brimstone magic makes a servicable grill in a pinch if she took up hunting

[wanton pendant]

Yeah, but the mushrooms have a cooldown.

[pliant ruin]

i like to think she just uses normal fire

[odd magnet]

Hello fellow one

Anyway

[long bloom]

BOOORINGGG

[pliant ruin]

using brimstone magic to cook would probably

not be something she'd do

[woeful hatch]

On one hand, eating glowing mushrooms sounds like a recipe to turn into a spore zombie

On the other hand, many npcs seem to want to eat the truffle so

[split mortar]

Brimstone fire would prob incinerate anything she cooks into like
Plasma or something

[pliant ruin]

like it causes her active mental anguish when she does nad its super destructive

I think she only uses it for desperate sitautions in combat

aka fighting the player

Plus i think it's fun to picture calamitas literally just lighting a fire

Not with magic or anything just like

sticks. some ash . yep

She's lived as a hermit in the wilderness for 10 something years i'm sure she knows how to

[frail hearth]

calamitas having a hard time starting a campfire is a really funny image >u>

[wanton pendant]

Do you think Calamitas has an extended or shortened lifespan from her magic?

[pliant ruin]

I think she'd probably have a hard time initially

But by the time you meet her ingame she's probably pretty good at that sort of thing

[odd magnet]

I don’t get how magic can decrease a lifespan tbh

[woeful hatch]

Shortened, IMO, but starting from a very long basis

[pliant ruin]

She had a very covoluted childhood with half of it having her not get proper education and the other half she was highly sheltered with permafrost being her only real support system offering her actual education

[woeful hatch]

I mean , it's very destructive magic that has a mental and physical toll on her

[pliant ruin]

So i think she was probably clueless on alot of things at first

But i mean again its been like 10 something years

She can probably spear fish atp

[odd magnet]

Fairr

[wanton pendant]

About 12.

[frail hearth]

well, it is magical hellfire magic so like there's prolly some kind of physically/mentally currosive drawback to using it.

[pliant ruin]

I don't think brimstone magic affects her lifespan since the damage seems to be exclusively psychical but

if it were to be one

probably lower

but not by much

maybe like a slighly smaller lifespan caused by the stress that brimstone magic causes

[frail hearth]

especially if you throw in necromancy. raising the dead can't be too good for your health. their second lifespan has to come from somewhere afterall 😬

[split mortar]

She dies of a heart attack in two years

[frail hearth]

She's prolly like Luffy. She's 100% gonna die the second the narrative's over if she overexerts herself, but probubly not before the big bad's been friend-punched into submission

[pliant ruin]

Ehh i dont see it

[woeful hatch]

Nah the necromancy generally helps with lifespan IMO

Might not be naturally extended but like, you're already playing with death and dead bodies, surely you can think a way to delay your own

[real silo]

Necromancy wouldn't reall affect lifespan I think

it's not a tradeoff of your soul for another's life

[wanton pendant]

Permafrost's really old so if need be he can show her the old tricks to being old.

[frail hearth]

well i mean to the caster it's gotta be draining

[pliant ruin]

She like threw everything she had at us and it didn't really affect her that much after the fight was over and all things considered she has like

no reason to really do that sort of thing after yharim dies

It does affect the psyche but as far as we know thats kinda it

[frail hearth]

also she's in her late 20s silly she dosen't need necromancy just yet >u<

[real silo]

it takes a lot of skill and probably a lot of mana but I doubt it would actually have lasting (negative) effects

[pliant ruin]

I

Do not think Calamitas would use necroamncy on herself she is not that insane

[woeful hatch]

Honestly, considering the tie between the chaos stone and brimstone magic and shit , I could see it shortening it

[pliant ruin]

Again yeah i can see it but

Not by much

Like, comparable to how irl

stress can shorten your lifespan

[split mortar]

Calamitas brought insane by necromancy sounds
Bad
For the world

[pliant ruin]

Calamitas isn't like some evil power hungry lich that wishes to be immortal to attain more knowledge or something