lore-discussion

[north root]

like who is using eye of night in this century

[odd magnet]

I mean when I first played calamity my autistic ass thought, wow that’s so cool terra upgrades to elemental and also terra magic weapon and terra gun

[north root]

class variants are cool post-night's edge

i like all of the living shard weapons

[wanton pendant]

I look away for five minutes and I get called an Englishman?
What the hell is wrong with you!

[odd magnet]

But now that I’m way deeper into calamity and well I care about other stuff about the mod than hype moments and aura I just think like, why was it a thing?

[wanton pendant]

You can't just call people English.

[split mortar]

Ok englishman

[odd magnet]

Could have had potential if it wasn’t a straight fire beam

[split mortar]

Hype moments and aura i think

[north root]

the damage sucks so bad

its worse than deathstare rod

[wanton pendant]

You're one to talk!

[odd magnet]

I feel like a night’s mage weapon shouldn’t have been that

[split mortar]

You should go sleep

[odd magnet]

How late is it for wwg

[split mortar]

Past midnight

[wanton pendant]

I'm not in London!

[split mortar]

Share my timezone tho

[wanton pendant]

And you're English, YOU should go to sleep!

[north root]

he's so sleep deprived he's hallucinating

[odd magnet]

Aw fuck yeah

[split mortar]

I went to sleep at 7:40pm and woke up

[north root]

he doesn't even know where he lives

[wanton pendant]

I do not nor have I ever lived in London. Thank God.

[odd magnet]

Are ye scottish?

[wanton pendant]

Of course not!

I'm not British!

[odd magnet]

FUCK

I’m scottish

[wanton pendant]

I'm sorry.

[north root]

DoG is scottish

that might be why you're purple

[odd magnet]

I feel insulted

[split mortar]

Good

[north root]

i'm orange because i live in hell with the profaned guardians

[wanton pendant]

That's not an amazing reason.

[north root]

anything for providence

[wanton pendant]

Petition to ban Britain?

[odd magnet]

No not rlly

[odd magnet]

There’s better

You don’t gotta live in hell for her we have cellular devices in terraria

And also I’m not purple because of distortion, I’m purple because of sludge

[north root]

by hell i of course mean arizona

providence famously lives in phoenix, arizona

[wanton pendant]

Not (thinks of a state) Wyoming?

[odd magnet]

So that’s why it’s so hot there

[north root]

providence, rhode island is named after her but she doesn't live there

[distant smelt]

Im blue because I’m currently robbing ilmeris

And have been for years

[north root]

the giant clams got bro

[odd magnet]

Who is there to steal from? The antlions?

[wanton pendant]

What else?

[north root]

pearl shards sell for a lot of money

it's how i afforded my first minishark

[odd magnet]

I mean I’d just go straight for the money and go for the sea prisms

But also sea prisms look really delectable

I used to look a lot more red before I found sea prisms

[distant smelt]

I hunt giant clams for a living

Im screwed if the world enters hardmode

[odd magnet]

..

Hmmm

I’m in the mood to kill a certain fleshy construct

Preferably wall shaped

[north root]

what did the ravager ever do to you

[odd magnet]

Be ugly

Although his theme does not need to go so hard

It’s so good for such a currently nothing boss

[north root]

chat. i just realized why i always envisioned providence as swearing all the time! she's the profaned goddess! like profanity! like swear words! i will start fucking swearing 300% more fucking often to fucking account for this

[eager bluff]

vivziepop dialogue

[visual kiln]

providebce is written by vivziepop

[wanton pendant]

Toby Fox.

[manic coral]

tricky tony

[pulsar ocean]

why is it called dragon's aerie if there are no dragons there

[north root]

common mistake it's actually called xeroc's rock, yharim just refuses to call it its actual name

[distant smelt]

There were before the gods eated them all

[north root]

it's a gulf of america situation

[distant smelt]

👁‍🗨 👁‍🗨

[pulsar ocean]

🪬

🪬 ✌️

[crystal pendant]

wha

[frosty charm]

With righteous fury, they slew a dragon, and their leader gorged Herself upon its auric soul of Flame. "The FUCKING world is without FUCKING guidance, and its FUCKING people are filled with SHIT AND darkness." She said. There was silence, until Providence spoke once more. "Let us go forth, and PISS the FUCKING world anew." And it was so."

[north root]

holy FUCKING peak

[manic coral]

so out of curiosity i throw everything ive written for dialogue since SSO development started in a single doc to check the word count, and while not ALL of this will be in SSO

[pastel bay]

It would be REALLY funny to have it all there though

[glacial rampart]

providence if she was written by vivziepop

[plucky juniper]

my reaction to this:

[real glen]

Tin dragon

[pulsar ocean]

is John wulfrum stronger than yharim

[wanton pendant]

No. Tragic, I know.

[dense lynx]

How would Calamity Lore played out if Moon Lord didn't show up? As alternative history.

[frosty charm]

Absolutely nothing would happen since Xeroc likely wouldn't have been strong enough to defeat the light dragon on his own

Maybe a dragon war but that's about it

[wanton pendant]

'Dragon War'? Elaborate?

Anyway, dragon hegemony is maintained.

[odd magnet]

Kinda fuckall would happen

[dense lynx]

Draedon would've still exsisted and made rescreach

[wanton pendant]

Are you sure?

[odd magnet]

Yharim’s just a normal jungle civilian now

[wanton pendant]

Yharim has nothing to do with the jungle.

[odd magnet]

Wasn’t he the

Jungle tyrant

Doesn’t he like bees

[gleaming tinsel]

Yharim's a normal non-jungle civilian now

[wanton pendant]

He hasn't been the Jungle Tyrant in years.

[dense lynx]

We know Moon Lord IS the most important character in lore. Cause whole story wouldn't happen if he didn't show up.

[wanton pendant]

Most important character is Calamitas because I like her more.

Also, you can say that about a lot of characters.

[gleaming tinsel]

e.g. Yharim

[wanton pendant]

Permafrost, Draedon, Xeroc, Dogma, the Terrarian, probably more I can't think of right now.

Yharon...

[frosty charm]

Dragons fight each other because some are good and some aren't

That's the only thing I can see happening

No real lore hints that led me to the conclusion

[wanton pendant]

Dragons fighting eachother wouldn't happen, it was an extreme taboo for them.

If such a thing happened, things would have to be REALLY screwed up.

[frosty charm]

I mean something probably would go wrong eventually

[wanton pendant]

Like what?

[frosty charm]

Dragon racism

[vagrant star]

ngl with what ive heard about the dragon of flame they might of eventually gotten jumped by the other ones

but yeah not much would happen overall

[wanton pendant]

Zaelithar (working name) is presumably the worst dragon from the time period (modern Yharon is easily arguably worse), but they'd need an army to oppose Zeratros and Yharon, and Yharon can raise dead dragons. Any dragon that values their life wouldn't oppose Yharon, who I am fairly confident was loyal to Zeratros.

[frosty charm]

I feel like modern yharon would be considerably less #Problematic if his species didn't go through genocide

[wanton pendant]

He's really old, you know how it is, different time.

[split mortar]

I imagine a whole lot of nothing happens unless noxus starts shit ages in the future compared to when the game takes place

[frosty charm]

Also who is zaelilithar or wtv

[wanton pendant]

Dragon of Flame.

[frosty charm]

Noxus stands for nothing ouuhhhh I can't think of an acronym

[wanton pendant]

The one Providence killed.

[frosty charm]

How are they the worst

[wanton pendant]

Also, since Noxus is meant to be weaker than Moon Lord it's probably not even that bad of an outcome.

[wanton pendant]

Do you know who Ridley is?

[frosty charm]

From Samus? Yeah

[split mortar]

Yeah hence why i said noxus would take longer
Cause
Noxus isnt enough rn

[wanton pendant]

Imagine that guy.

Noxus training arc?

[pulsar ocean]

rando

[long bloom]

true

[wanton pendant]

Batman in Calamity, how long does it take him to defeat Yharim?

[pulsar ocean]

5 seconds of prep time

[valid tapir]

Excluding prep time?
10 minutes tbh (immunity phases, summoning animations, death animations)

[wanton pendant]

'Death animations'? Are you forgetting the no-kill rule?

[split mortar]

Depends on the version of batman but i imagine a bunch just
Die
Especially if batman is stuck to calamity materials only

[vagrant star]

yeah modern yharon needs to be injected with chill pills

[stoic gulch]

Lea when

[plush latch]

what does xeroc even do/did in the lore

[stoic gulch]

He was just god

[long bloom]

killed the dragon king and became the first god

causing everyone else to kill the rest of the dragons

currently they're just chilling and controlling the sun

[plush latch]

bro really took the genocide route

[long bloom]

it's not really his fault that everyone copied them

[plush latch]

"I paid 10 bucks for terraria i'm gonna get all the outcomes"

[plush latch]

the average youtuber audience /j

[wanton pendant]

Xeroc prevents the sun from killing everyone, probably.

[inner pasture]

Do you think that when we're fighting Xeroc and we're about to win, Noxus will appear and absorb Xeroc's soul and turn him into a terrifyingly powerful creature?

[split mortar]

Xeroc is planned to be post noxus afaik
And
Xeroc can prob solo both us and noxus at the same time
-# and we would just die to noxus with the strength of xeroc

[wanton pendant]

Xeroc is too strong.

[inner pasture]

I wonder how we're supposed to deal with it.

Or what the writers will come up with to get the Terrarian to the point of fighting Xeroc

[split mortar]

Xeroc spars us

Thats the current thoughts afaik

[inner pasture]

And then… they lived happily ever after? •-•

[split mortar]

Idk
Unless we try killing all life xeroc has no reason to put us down

And thats impossible with what we can do in game

[pastel bay]

Scal has a death animation but she doesnt die

Honestly the most i see coming out of Xeroc narratively is a fight with a recreation of his pre-auric self, and a figurative handshake

[inner pasture]

I'm excited to know what happens next, I hope the writers update the document soon, and also add the missing things to the game.

[cloud ibex]

they're working on it

[split mortar]

The lore document will update once there is more stuff in the game

That document is not meant to cover dev statements and such

[long bloom]

yeah

[wanton pendant]

Unless you're EVIL and live UNHAPPILY ever after.

[long bloom]

true

[tropic oak]

lore

[limpid saddle]

calclone

[wanton pendant]

Timeline.

[lunar island]

Out of curiosity, why does Calamitas fight the player?

[fallen kindle]

because she is trying to stop the player from doing further harm

I think

or from reaching yharim

[lunar island]

doesnt she despise yharim and want him dead at this point?

[split mortar]

She fears the player may yharim 2.0 and panics tf out

[fallen kindle]

thank you lea channel

[split mortar]

It happened again lmao

[fallen kindle]

what

[lunar island]

fair. What is it that convinces her otherwise?

[split mortar]

Oh cei talking

[manic coral]

at the end of the dya it's not soemthing communicated that well right now becuase 22 and there's an issue of "ok we still need to make enw fight dialogue that everybody can agree on"

[lunar island]

22? enw?

guh?

[manic coral]

like every writer has pitched soemthing at some point but there's never been an agrement, but now that writing for LITERALLY EVERYTHING ELSE for her in SSO is basically almost done... hopefully there can be a more solid agreement

[manic coral]

enw is jsut me misspelling new

[lunar island]

ah

[manic coral]

i put all of my writing energy in actual writing not talking to people

[split mortar]

22 is when the dev team exploded because fabsol and it happened in 2022 iirc

[manic coral]

and the entire writing team was replaced basically

[lunar island]

I thought that the fabsol supernova was more recent.

[wanton pendant]

Calamitas should say 'I'm Brimstone the Witch, and I'm here to stop you from being a Tyrant, Jungle.' This also reveals the Terrarian is really named Jungle the Guy.

[manic coral]

no this was a different one

[split mortar]

Thats when fabsol exploded not the dev team

[manic coral]

but also it was for reasons more than than fab is was a reuslt of failures on a lot of fronts

[split mortar]

Fabsols death is like
Called 25 or something

[manic coral]

now, 25, yeah no that was just "fabsol sucks"

[split mortar]

Fabsol sucks is bit of an understatement

[manic coral]

we call them 22 and 25 because of dumb community jokes and also the inital one happen in 2022

[hoary cape]

Fabsol try not to be himself challenge impossible

[manic coral]

and the number 22 has bee a longstanding community meme

[hoary cape]

Bee 😭

[manic coral]

but yeah anyways the current calamiats dialogue ios a pre-22 thing

hence

made by the old writing team

[hoary cape]

I am executing cei for the pun sorry

[manic coral]

who were writing soemthing entire different

[lunar island]

was 2022 just like foreshadowing for the great fabsol crash out of 2025

[manic coral]

it didn't get touched up immedaitly since it TECHNICALLY doesn't contradict anything but yeah a new version has not been made and it needs to at this point

[manic coral]

again it is best described as a failure on most fronts

fabsol was not THE issue. he was ONE of the issues.

it's hard to go too in-depth about it though

[hoary cape]

I am not as surprised as I feel I should be about what happened

[limpid saddle]

Yeah a solid chunk of the team fled to work on Fables as a seperate project

& now fabsol has been publically executed

[lunar island]

I did know about that

[dusk laurel]

alot just left

and disappeared

[manic coral]

anywyas yeah and the reason it still hasn't is as said becuase we have yet to be able to make anything that we can get everybody to agree on

[limpid saddle]

This is true

[split mortar]

Fabless calamity and calamity fables

[dusk laurel]

rest in peace inanis

[hoary cape]

Is iban the lead dev on that project or is someone else in charge I can't remember

[fallen kindle]

the biggest, as in the largest % of the issues

?

[hoary cape]

I wonder if axolotl dog will end up in fables

[dusk laurel]

iban

[dusk laurel]

yes

iban made it

[lunar island]

since fabsol is gone, is a fables/fabless reunion at all possible or is it just too far gone at this point to make sense

[dusk laurel]

nope

[split mortar]

No

[hoary cape]

They are sticking with their own project afaik

[dusk laurel]

the teams have very different visions

[split mortar]

The plans deviate far too much from the start

[wanton pendant]

No such thing is planned, and exceedingly unlikely, since it's its own thing.

[manic coral]

they ahev their own seprate vision and also there's still some people who work on fables and some people who work on cal who

[wanton pendant]

So, no.

[manic coral]

aren't exactly on great terms still

[limpid saddle]

Yeah this wasnt just a fabsol thing

[fallen kindle]

does fables actually come from fabless lmao

[lunar island]

fair enough.

[hoary cape]

Crabulon emoting on you is still one of the funniest creations ever

[manic coral]

to say the least

again

[split mortar]

Pretty sure

[limpid saddle]

It was conflicts about the entire vision for the mod as said

[manic coral]

fabsol was ONE of the problems

there were SO MANY MORE

[split mortar]

Cei is gender change potion canon

[manic coral]

why wouldnt it be

[wanton pendant]

Something something woke.

[split mortar]

Idk
Felt like asking a question i knew the answer to

[fallen kindle]

Cei are we getting spectral feather back?

[split mortar]

The fucks that

[limpid saddle]

never forget that Slime God is canonically genderfluid

[manic coral]

and so yeah some of the cal team and some of the fables team still don't quite get along

[fallen kindle]

it’s the best item in the game

[tropic oak]

lore discussion

[split mortar]

Thanks for the ellaboration

[proper oriole]

well yeh, it is a slime. slime is pretty fluid

[tropic oak]

hi melon

[manic coral]

even aside from jsut creative differences

[split mortar]

Hey tyrant

[manic coral]

anyways i won't go too far into that

[dusk laurel]

no theyre a person and theyre genderfluid

wait worng eeply

[split mortar]

Wha

[limpid saddle]

they are THE gender fluid

[wanton pendant]

There's just not enough room for two perfect crabs.

[manic coral]

back to lore

[wanton pendant]

We can't merge them, or risk losing one.

[split mortar]

Vanillin thinks im genderdluid ig

[proper oriole]

why do we fight crabulon btw i forget

[lunar island]

Calamitas is just like me fr tbh

[split mortar]

Up to you

[wanton pendant]

Dangerous.

[proper oriole]

is it just. haha funny crab

[dusk laurel]

melon youre just dumbb

[manic coral]

but yes i have actually as of yesterday starting working out arranging a small writer "meeting" (if you can call 3 people gathering a meeting) to discussion cal'sm fight dialogue

[lunar island]

black, traumatized, war criminal

[limpid saddle]

mushrooms see you're up in their shit & try to kill & assimilate you

[split mortar]

The TERRARIAN is YOU

[limpid saddle]

as mushrooms do

[split mortar]

O
Peak

[proper oriole]

ohh fair enough

[manic coral]

"crabulon" isn't even really a crab anymore it's just a bunch of parasitic mushrooms piloting a crab corpse like a mech

[hoary cape]

Melon prepare to meet the kneecap removinator

[limpid saddle]

cei will any more mechs be featured in the calamity mod

[fallen kindle]

pseudocrab

[split mortar]

What the fuck why

What did i do to piss off dr doofinshmirtz

[proper oriole]

i mean, yeah. ophiocordyceps type beat

[manic coral]

idk will there

[dusk laurel]

we really dont need more

[wanton pendant]

Catastrophe and Cataclysm should say 'We're the Calamitous Brothers, and we're gonna Calamity you,' when they get summoned.

[hoary cape]

No kiri to bully so you are next

[split mortar]

D:

But vanillin is right there

[proper oriole]

i agree

[limpid saddle]

i think it would be cool if each class got a dedicated mecha

[fallen kindle]

Cei is spectral feather important to lore and therefore getting readded?

[lunar island]

the current world im playing i made the headcannon of my character being the ghost of another character of mine which was lost when I got a new PC. and is battling the entire world to regain physical form.

[manic coral]

why do you keep asking me this im just a writer man

[fallen kindle]

like flamsteed

[manic coral]

[hoary cape]

I can't bully vanilla. Vanilla just bullies kiri with it

[fallen kindle]

I love spectral feather

[limpid saddle]

because you're awesome 💖

[proper oriole]

this thing?

[fallen kindle]

that thing

[proper oriole]

they havent existed since cal 1.1.5 dude

[wanton pendant]

Obviously we need Red Potion lore.

[hoary cape]

It's a red potion

[fallen kindle]

they could have been expanded on

[tropic oak]

pumpkin / frost moon canon 2025

[fallen kindle]

liquid and it’s red

[split mortar]

Thats just like
Every drug ever put in a flask with red food colouring
Not even trying to be healthy

[lunar island]

what is the lore significance of that god damned fuciing overgrown podgeon

[hoary cape]

Red potion lore is that it's just a random concoction of potions

[lunar island]

pidgeon

[split mortar]

Folly?

[hoary cape]

Podgeon

[manic coral]

which one

[lunar island]

thats the bitch

[wanton pendant]

Dragon descendent.

[split mortar]

A dragon

[hoary cape]

Dragonfolly is just a birb

[wanton pendant]

It's big and it's angry, I guess.

[manic coral]

dragonfolly is also planned to be progression swapped with hive mind/perfs Some Day™

[split mortar]

I hope it gets tier shifted down to where evil 2 is

[dusk laurel]

its gonna get shot and broken into multiple pidgeons

[fallen kindle]

I guess it’s a kind of… bumble brib?

[split mortar]

Chat i will now call slime god evil 3

[dusk laurel]

this is real and true

[lunar island]

wait what?

guh?

[proper oriole]

whenever that happens that sounds real fun

[manic coral]

yeah

[lunar island]

real ones remember...

[fallen kindle]

WHAT

[wanton pendant]

Like, it's a big bird.

[split mortar]

Yeah

[manic coral]

also on the large potential for a progression swap list is calclone and slime god

[limpid saddle]

its weird when newheads dont know things

[wanton pendant]

Not meant to be a world ending threat to surpass the Moon Lord.

[limpid saddle]

[fallen kindle]

that’s understandable

[split mortar]

Oh huh thats still likely

[fallen kindle]

fr

[dusk laurel]

😊

[lunar island]

Slime God being hardmode would make senxd

[fallen kindle]

true

[proper oriole]

i might be Outdated on the Lore but i thought it was a failed clone of yharon by draedon? has that been changed?

[manic coral]

my wishes may come true and i may get to have calclone be before cryogen to make my life ten times easier

[wanton pendant]

Very retconned.

[lunar island]

Im not new to the mod ive just been blind as to what's going on for like years because I havent been hearing stuff in the discord

[split mortar]

The weakest of the gods getting buffed to calclone level

[proper oriole]

god im outdated lmao

[manic coral]

Very long ago retconned

[wanton pendant]

I think the reason was it made Draedon look bad at science.

[fallen kindle]

what is retconned

[lunar island]

man what is it with draedon and these god damned clones

[limpid saddle]

whatever you do to calclone just do my goat justice ok 💔

[tropic oak]

frost dragon............

[wanton pendant]

Dragonfolly being a clone of Yharon.

[dusk laurel]

they will

[proper oriole]

i mean. he made the exos

[fallen kindle]

oh ok

[split mortar]

If you want access to future plans theres a doc in the pins of #calamity-update-talk

[dusk laurel]

she just wont be a hardmode boss

finally...

[wanton pendant]

He hadn't at the time.

[lunar island]

is the draedon we communicate with just a fucking draedon clone?

[fallen kindle]

likely

[wanton pendant]

Yes and no.

[manic coral]

thoguh eyah ever since i have beena writer my stence on retcons is "ok. writing team repalced, they were gonan rewrite everything anywyas, let's just do that since we have no diea where to go with the stuff they made and then retcon as little as possible while making this because that was an issue before"

[proper oriole]

fair enough

[lunar island]

WHAT

[manic coral]

it's just a body he uses

[limpid saddle]

Well its all 1 ai just tons of bodies

[hoary cape]

Draedon is an AI

[manic coral]

"draedon" is basiclaly just

an operating system

[hoary cape]

Think of Ultron

[split mortar]

Clones are like
Not that hard to do with today tech or something so draedon fucking up was especially odd

[lunar island]

I make a joke and everyone's response is "yeah sorta" bruh wtf

[hoary cape]

He makes bodies that he controls

[wanton pendant]

But less evil.

[proper oriole]

but mor eevil

[lunar island]

DRAEDON IS WINDOWS 11 BUT LESS EVIL?

[hoary cape]

Draedon is far more evil than windows 11

[fallen kindle]

have you considered autocorrect

[wanton pendant]

Draedon's like hive mind #7 at this point.

[manic coral]

draedon doesn't have a "real" body. it's like asking what Windows 7's body is like

[limpid saddle]

I wonder when the calamity branded DraedonOS will drop

[manic coral]

yes

[fallen kindle]

not possible

[manic coral]

it botches what i want to type even more

[split mortar]

Draedon lacks the ability to comprehend morality rn

[proper oriole]

no wait that sounds cool

[limpid saddle]

REAL....

[split mortar]

Nukes and bees were fused is the outcome

[hoary cape]

Draedon should start breaking it down during the exo fight to distract you

[dusk laurel]

truth

[split mortar]

True

[fallen kindle]

try slide typing

it’s fast and convenient

[split mortar]

??

Oh huh wrfbweird

[fallen kindle]

what

[wanton pendant]

Trust the process.

[fallen kindle]

you slide your finger across the keyboard and it makes words

phone obviously

idk if iOS only

[limpid saddle]

me when i "PLAGUE NUKE BARRAGE ARMED, PREPARING FOR LAUNCH!!"

i wonder if that line will get rewritten

[proper oriole]

hfeeeryhuikllo (swiped on keyboard)

[fallen kindle]

forgot a few “!” there

[split mortar]

Its a sign of autism dw about it

[fallen kindle]

what no

[limpid saddle]

no it has 3

[fallen kindle]

it makes actual words

[proper oriole]

im on pc lmao

[hoary cape]

Words are a human construct

Checkmate word enthusiasts

[manic coral]

also it's funny how i'll write something like

All that exists in the Crimson is truly the divine turned inside out; their gore now glistens with perverse treachery for all to bear witness. The mire reeks of centuries of vile manipulation and callous domination of the hapless. Judgment has long passed and only extinction is left waiting.

and then turn around and misspell every word in a sentence i type

[fallen kindle]

that’s why I said

[wanton pendant]

What is a word, but a miserable little pile of characters!

[limpid saddle]

& they're called exclamation points...

[split mortar]

You have priorities

[hoary cape]

Centuries?

[wanton pendant]

Gods are old.

[hoary cape]

Is that just because the gods are that old

[wanton pendant]

Yeah, gods are old.

[fallen kindle]

old god

[hoary cape]

I am turning you into an old god

[manic coral]

I'm old!

[hoary cape]

Enjoy being god of doorknobs

[wanton pendant]

Dogma:

[split mortar]

Yeah the gods reek of manipulation anddomination cause they are
Tgat old

[hoary cape]

Top 10 gods go

[wanton pendant]

We know, like, 8.

[hoary cape]

In calamity

[split mortar]

Gerson vs shakidou

[manic coral]

also shoutouts to rpvoidence's wiki page instead of using a bit from the Whisper instead using a bit from the bestiary entry

[limpid saddle]

Well yeah the oldest have been around for a minimum ballpark range of 900 years

[fallen kindle]

yes

[lunar island]

is calamitas trans

[wanton pendant]

Oh, wait, there's 10.

[hoary cape]

Xeroc is older than that because he was around before the fall of the dragons

[manic coral]

no but i am and i write her is that close enough

[wanton pendant]

Alright, where the hell do I put Shakidou, the ultimate potential man?

[limpid saddle]

i said oldest for a reason

[proper oriole]

based

[lunar island]

that counts as far as im concerned tbh

[proper oriole]

i agree

[split mortar]

Cheese is calamitas and she is trans i think(?)

[limpid saddle]

lmao

[manic coral]

it is true if i ever can't think of something to write for calamitas i just think "what would cheese say in this situation"

[fallen kindle]

who’s cheese

[tropic oak]

friend

[manic coral]

@pliant ruin

[proper oriole]

someone

[manic coral]

friend

[split mortar]

@pliant ruin

[tropic oak]

friend

friend

[wanton pendant]

You seem to imagine Cheese going through quite the horrors.

[dusk laurel]

[limpid saddle]

the greatest honor of a calamity lorehead is to become the idol of inspiration for a character

[fallen kindle]

oh that person

is she a dev?

[manic coral]

in that case i deserve like 3 honors

[split mortar]

You arent a lorehead you are a writer

[wanton pendant]

If you learn how to make addons you can give yourself as many honours as you want.

[manic coral]

i cna be both

i act like both

[split mortar]

Nuh uh

[limpid saddle]

i dont have honors but i have photography

[manic coral]

i'll talk about this stuff like i forgot i wrote it most of the time

[split mortar]

Lol

[fallen kindle]

lok

[tropic oak]

xeroc

[dusk laurel]

look at her roles

[tropic oak]

❤️

[split mortar]

Inverting the spin of your particles

[wanton pendant]

Xeroc: The Potential Man of all time.

[lunar island]

ascaomeone who is Trans and intimately familiar with the lore. what character would you deem the most Trans coded and the m8st transphobic.

[fallen kindle]

no dev

[tropic oak]

ill kill you

[wanton pendant]

Slime God, and Devouer of Gods, clearly.

[dusk laurel]

yep

[split mortar]

Well bandit is nb iirc

[fallen kindle]

yesss

[limpid saddle]

I swear someone asked this before

[manic coral]

well i'd say the actually nonbinary person is slgihtly transphobic

or

shit

trans coded

not editing that

that's funny

[wanton pendant]

Bandit's transphobic!?

[fallen kindle]

screenshotted

[manic coral]

anywyas as for most transphobic i mean

the devourer is RIGHT there

[fallen kindle]

devoured is just

[lunar island]

lmao

[fallen kindle]

everythingphobic

[limpid saddle]

he does banish two gay men to purple hell

[manic coral]

not becuase she actually cares abotu trans people, just to be toxic

[fallen kindle]

devourer is she?

[wanton pendant]

Devourer's trans!?

[manic coral]

he

[limpid saddle]

typos are awesome

[manic coral]

:/

listen

we ALl know i cant spell

except for when i can

[split mortar]

Transfem dog

[manic coral]

EVIL calamity be like: trans devourer, transphobic bandit

yharim and yharon find an answer that isn't systematic genocide

[wanton pendant]

Evil Calamity: Calamitas has a happy and healthy life with her family, Yharim runs a plantation.

[limpid saddle]

hes one of those mfs that would say 'im not racist... heh... i hate everyone equally...'

[split mortar]

Calamitas has a living family and no trauma or nuking itsly

[fallen kindle]

true

[wanton pendant]

Permafrost is young.

[manic coral]

EVIL yharim: genocide is bad. child soldier are immoral. slavery is fine though.

[young socket]

woke calamity be like:
calamiTRANS
yharHIM
THEYdon
braelor
statis
devourer of GAYS

[fallen kindle]

evil calamity: we’re not adding spectral feather back

[limpid saddle]

he got really into fire magic

[wanton pendant]

It's Yharhe/him!

[fallen kindle]

cnidrion

[thick slate]

😡

[manic coral]

amidiaITS

[limpid saddle]

BandTHEY

[wanton pendant]

Pronouns, The Woke Goddess.

[dusk laurel]

[thick slate]

i remember your bandits

[fallen kindle]

blood boilHER

spectral featHER

[limpid saddle]

shut up about the damn feather

[fallen kindle]

never

I love spectral feather

[wanton pendant]

Calamitas Clone (lab grown meat is woke or something).

[split mortar]

Mods
Kill the feather

[fallen kindle]

NO

[wanton pendant]

The mod did kill the feather.

[thick slate]

gmo

[manic coral]

man i can't believe Calamity, which has a story about a war and whos main antaognist is a politician and propagandist, is now political :/ (it has a nonbinary person)

[wanton pendant]

The Woker will not be pleased.

[thick slate]

crispr baby

[manic coral]

god, it's SO unrealistic. unlike the magical telepathic dragon.

[limpid saddle]

i love calamitas clone so much

shes my goat 5ever

[fallen kindle]

guys old or new apotheosis

[wanton pendant]

So true.

[dusk laurel]

nonbinarylite

[tropic oak]

xeroc ❤️

[limpid saddle]

i need to draw more fanart of her

[dusk laurel]

none

[tropic oak]

need to draw more xeroc

[limpid saddle]

xe/xematros

[thick slate]

eat xeroc

[wanton pendant]

The Xe in Xeroc stands for Xero accomplishments.

[split mortar]

Dont forget the dragon can undo death

[tropic oak]

yap yap yap yap

[thick slate]

stands for xenophobic

[fallen kindle]

correct

[manic coral]

anywyas it is time for me to go and get ready to go shopping

[fallen kindle]

will you buy stuff

[split mortar]

Go touch grass

[wanton pendant]

Wait, confirm that DoG's real name is Gary God-Eater!

[manic coral]

no im shoplifting. (lifting the whole store and taking it home with me)

[split mortar]

Its john jod-eater

[thick slate]

yay

[wanton pendant]

Banned.

[thick slate]

i love shopping

[fallen kindle]

true shoplifting

[thick slate]

forgive me marx for i have bought

[limpid saddle]

chat should i make fajitas tonight or decay

[fallen kindle]

decay

[thick slate]

decay

[split mortar]

decay

[fallen kindle]

false vacuum hypothesis

[fallen kindle]

3 decay

gd reference

[young socket]

i dont think they meant to eat the store when they say "eat the rich"

[thick slate]

what is a fajita

[fallen kindle]

food

[thick slate]

yea

[fallen kindle]

not good food

idk never tried

[thick slate]

but like what is it

aw

what

[fallen kindle]

like peppers or something

and they pipe

[thick slate]

ew

[fallen kindle]

ikr

[thick slate]

peppers are only good when they are spicy

[fallen kindle]

many things are

[thick slate]

yea but they spawn spicy

[fallen kindle]

yes

that’s how capsaicin works

[dusk laurel]

wrongdoers and evildoers

[thick slate]

capsicum?

[fallen kindle]

what

capsaicin is spicy chemical

found in peppers

[thick slate]

oh yea

forgot

i eat habanero

[fallen kindle]

what’s that

[limpid saddle]

fajitas are a mexican dish

[thick slate]

really spicy pepper

like 100,000 scovile

[fallen kindle]

oh ok

[fallen kindle]

damn

[thick slate]

i put it in stuff i make sometimes

[fallen kindle]

if you like peppers that spicy you should try carolina reaper

1mil scovile

[thick slate]

ive had it before

[limpid saddle]

you pan-fry bell peppers (others are used but i only really have bell peppers), onions & chicken or chicken substitutes, pour in boiling water & add spices as it reduces

[fallen kindle]

is it good

[thick slate]

no

i had a 9 million scovile gummy bear

[fallen kindle]

what

[thick slate]

woa

[limpid saddle]

when fully reduced you dump it in a few tortillas, slap a few jalapenos, a little gaucamole & some salsa & you have fajitas

[thick slate]

that sounds alright

[fallen kindle]

really 9 mil

[thick slate]

yea

[fallen kindle]

how did you not die

[thick slate]

i drank half a ltire of milk

and a litre of water

and then threw u

[limpid saddle]

Was it good?

[thick slate]

probably worst internal pain ive experienced

[fallen kindle]

threw me?

[thick slate]

threw up

[fallen kindle]

oh up

[thick slate]

wait wrong channel

🔥

[fallen kindle]

what

what breaks blocks

[thick slate]

i said wrong channel

[fallen kindle]

yes

[thick slate]

are you 3 neurons orbitting each other

[fallen kindle]

orbiting one “t”

but yes

pretty much

[hoary cape]

Cheese is best user

Sorry all other users

[thick slate]

i think best user is

[hoary cape]

Oh that was response to a message that just vanished

I guess chat caught up lol

[split mortar]

Wha

[thick slate]

nobody is best user

all equal

[hoary cape]

Wrong

[split mortar]

That who is cheese message was said a while ago

[wanton pendant]

What about me? :(

[thick slate]

i said all equal

[hoary cape]

Yah as I said chat just jumped to present

I am sorry

[split mortar]

Lol

[hoary cape]

That's what it displayed as I was typing

[split mortar]

Ah ok

[thick slate]

cheebs

[hoary cape]

Melon worst user /j

[wanton pendant]

True!

[hoary cape]

Banning you for agreeing with me

[thick slate]

worst user probablyy

idk

[hoary cape]

Fabsol

[thick slate]

not a user

anymor

i think staff mail worst user

[hoary cape]

This is why Taylor left the mod team /j

Because staff mail sucks

Isn't that right

[fallen kindle]

ok communist

[wanton pendant]

You have a red profile picture!
You can't fool me, communist!

[thick slate]

incident

[fallen kindle]

you havea green one

[fallen kindle]

what was it supposed to do?

[thick slate]

i think we just didnt know it did that

atleast i didnt

[split mortar]

Lmao?

[thick slate]

i dont like this reaction image

[wanton pendant]

Noted.

[fallen kindle]

i like this reaction image

[wanton pendant]

Noted.

[thick slate]

i dont think its needed for this situation

thats like needed for idiot-log ⚠️ symbol

[fallen kindle]

what

[thick slate]

elite ball knowledge

[fallen kindle]

which I do not possess

[hoary cape]

Deserved

I don't know why, but it's deserved

[fallen kindle]

was she a good mod

[thick slate]

no lol

[hoary cape]

Potentially

[fallen kindle]

why not

[hoary cape]

I will not slander former mods that were decent

I have nothing to say bad about Taylor. I wasn't around them as a mod for very long 😂

[thick slate]

i sometimes moderateed

sometimes id just see things and wasnt bothered

atleast i moderated vcs

[hoary cape]

Taylor is still cool 🔥

Anyway back to your scheduled lore programs

Which boss has your favorite lore

[split mortar]

Queen slime

[hoary cape]

Explain

Please

[split mortar]

No

[pastel bay]

Old Duke.

Because it's literally just "I'm old!"

[hushed jasper]

Plaguebringer Goliath.

[hoary cape]

Explain

[wanton pendant]

Bad news: There's more.

[hushed jasper]

I like the idea of the plague in the jungle as a whole

[thick slate]

deerclops

[wanton pendant]

True and correct.

[bitter cave]

Cryogen

[limpid saddle]

CALAMITAS CLOOOOOOOOOONE

[hoary cape]

I am removing Taylor's kneecap privileges

[wanton pendant]

Cryogen lore: Watch what happens when I use a spell I know!

[thick slate]

patella

[bitter cave]

Tru

[hoary cape]

What

https://tenor.com/view/low-tier-god-mods-mods-take-away-their-kneecap-privileges-kneecap-discord-gif-16907222988962456914

[thick slate]

i like polterghast actually

[thick slate]

kneecap

is called the patella

[hoary cape]

Okay

I am removing your kneecaps

And your elbows

[thick slate]

elbows arent really a thing

just the joint area of two bones

[hoary cape]

The funny bone is real though

I curse you with hitting it constantly

[hushed jasper]

I do that anyways

Does it cancel out?

[thick slate]

its a nerve

[hoary cape]

You do it twice as much now

[thick slate]

its named after the humerus

which is a bone

[hushed jasper]

Yippee

[hoary cape]

Taylor why 😭

[thick slate]

i like anatomy

[hoary cape]

That's my job to correct people for being wrong when they didn't ask

[hushed jasper]

Pretty hype job tbh

[hoary cape]

Yah unfortunately my small amount of adhd takes over and I can't control the impulse to correct people

So I should get paid for it

[hushed jasper]

When my adhd takes over I just go cry in a corner XD

[hushed jasper]

Yes

[thick slate]

how does adhd take over

[hushed jasper]

Kinda just does

[thick slate]

thats not really how it works

[hushed jasper]

Idk how it does

[hoary cape]

Lack of impulse control

That's what happens

[hushed jasper]

Oh I see

[hoary cape]

My intrusive thoughts take over

[hushed jasper]

So that’s why it happens

[thick slate]

kinda more an ocd thing

but yea

[hoary cape]

Well the intrusive thoughts win

More than they should is what I mean

[thick slate]

my intrusive thoughts are like microwave forks

[hoary cape]

That and I am also on the spectrum so I got to info dump people on top of it

[thick slate]

so that usually doesnt happen

[hushed jasper]

[hoary cape]

Though ADHD also does that so 🤷

[thick slate]

blorg

[hoary cape]

My info dump is usually animals

Animal facts 😂

[thick slate]

i dissect sheep lungs

[hoary cape]

Awesome

I have touched pigs lungs

[thick slate]

going to touch human lungs soon

[strong notch]

intrusive thoughts of inflating them into balloons

[hushed jasper]

I’ve had cow parts thrown at me. And I would rather not say which parts

[thick slate]

yea we did this

[wanton pendant]

Do not elaborate, thank you.

[thick slate]

made sorta an air sac thing

i popped it

[thick slate]

(pleura)

if u really care

[hoary cape]

My grade 8 science teacher showed us a video of a cadaver being dissected and I was like one of the only people not grossed out. I think there might be something wrong with me😭

[strong notch]

it's a sign you should become a surgeon

[thick slate]

i hope i dont like laugh

when i see the person

that would be bad

[split mortar]

I read that without context and thought it was a threat to someone

[strong notch]

I will touch your human lungs

no idea how that would work as a threat

[thick slate]

i will touch ur sheep lungs

[hoary cape]

I would not be a good surgeon I am very iffy under pressure

At least that kind of pressure

[thick slate]

i might be a surgeon

would be cool

life saver

[strong notch]

just a lot of pressure

sometimes every second counts

[thick slate]

i work well under pressure idk

[strong notch]

then you can always pursue that path ig

[thick slate]

which i am

gulp

[strong notch]

and i will stay by my circuits

peace and thinking

and a lot of math

that i have a love-hate relationship with

honestly the subject is not all boring if you think of it as puzzle game that you need to solve

[thick slate]

im just really good at memorization

i can remember every bone

[strong notch]

my memory is so awful i often forget names of people i have just met

but logic on the other hand

[thick slate]

i mean i can do logic too

i did physics for a bit

i do chemistry

[strong notch]

chemistry is pretty logical

there are ways one part connect to another

it's not random

[thick slate]

ya

i like organic chem a lot

feels like puzzles

[strong notch]

going to sleep now

have a good night/day wherever you live

[thick slate]

me toooo

time for good girl asmr

[pliant ruin]

meow

[split mortar]

No

[snow mountain]

ok so ive been stewing over this rant for a while, i know xmas is like three months away but i am so profusely disappointed i have to rant

WHY ISN'T SANTA CANON

[split mortar]

Idk ask the writers

[snow mountain]

ITS SO BLOODY EASY

TERRY PRATCHETT DID IT AND IT WAS PEAK

theres no excuse

[split mortar]

You act like its mandatory to have christmas and santa canon

[snow mountain]

it is

[split mortar]

No

[snow mountain]

santas already there

you might as well

its like seasoning to your meal yknow, its not mandatory but it just

[split mortar]

Either way ultimately you decide what the terrarian interracts with so if you want you can make santa and christmas canon to your terrarian

[split mortar]

Not really

[snow mountain]

santa is objectively canon, christmas isn't

[split mortar]

Why you say santa objectively is??

[snow mountain]

the two can be separated and substituted for to make sense canonically, like hogswatch

[snow mountain]

hes in the game

[split mortar]

I guess signus is the envoy of the devourer

[snow mountain]

i mean you'd assume so

where the fuck is my hogswatch

[split mortar]

Also christmas is
Thats in game
After you beat frost moon

[distant smelt]

so is the murasama

[snow mountain]

enough whataboutism

[distant smelt]

meant to reply to the in game line

but like

you get it

[snow mountain]

THE FLAVOUR

even disregarding what is or isn't canon, extra flavouring goes a mile in a setting

cal is like

bland dish

[split mortar]

Yea we all know the state of calamity rn

[snow mountain]

the lore

the lore lad

[split mortar]

Yes

I kniw

[snow mountain]

I NEED HOGSWATCH

[split mortar]

That applys to the lore as well

[split mortar]

Doesnt mean calamity does

[light linden]

@manic coralhey can I ask a question about the dungeon?

[snow mountain]

every setting needs hogswatch

[split mortar]

Its no hidden secret that calamity lore is lacking in many places

[split mortar]

Subjective opinion

[snow mountain]

its objective

[split mortar]

No

[snow mountain]

i said so

[split mortar]

Skill issue

Get a better brain

[frosty charm]

just grind out surgeon simulator

for practice

[snow mountain]

anything to make the lore not overexplanatory

blood moon good, me want more

[warm gull]

hi melon gun

[split mortar]

Hey guess what bestiary stuff will happen in the next major update

[snow mountain]

i don't care, going off of what i know

[frosty charm]

8 year old finding out santa isnt real

(heartbreaking)

[snow mountain]

HES REAL TO ME

[split mortar]

And you know the bestiary stuff will happen

[snow mountain]

and?

that factors into my judgement later

[warm gull]

then why r you talking about it

[distant smelt]

[snow mountain]

BECAUSE WE NEED HOGSWATCH

its the discworld suce

ause

[split mortar]

No you are just obsessed with it

[snow mountain]

cuase

sauce

[pliant ruin]

waiter waiter more vagueposting to things nobody knows and more finding excuses to be obnoxious

[warm gull]

oh god incattus is a discworld fan

[snow mountain]

loredump time

OF COURSE I AM I AM A BRIT

[distant smelt]

oh lord

[split mortar]

Im a brit and idfk what you on about

[warm gull]

discworld is good but if someone references it you should distance yourself

[snow mountain]

what im saying is

theres plenty of ways to shoehorn santa and the non-blood moons in there

[tropic oak]

xeroc ❤️

[split mortar]

And maybe they want to like
Focus on more important shit then those 2

[snow mountain]

my problem with this is that not everything needs to tie back to existing shit

[frosty charm]

santa is an avatar of xeroc

[snow mountain]

its supposed to be a setting after all

[snow mountain]

better

pratchett was cooking real hard

[split mortar]

Everyone knows calamity can be a lot better in this get hotter takes

[snow mountain]

SANTA

[split mortar]

And not absolute zero ones

[snow mountain]

i don't care i want to rant

this take has been left to cool

[split mortar]

And im free to talk while you do

[frosty charm]

this just in

calamity

could be better

[split mortar]

Wow

[frosty charm]

burp

[snow mountain]

santa

santa is

xeroc's heterosexual life partner

[frosty charm]

Santa is the guides uncle who just really likes Christmas and dedicated himself to the holiday

[snow mountain]

its that easy

[visual kiln]

whats hogswatch

[wanton pendant]

Who/what built the dungeon? Was it the Dragon Cult?

[warm gull]

incomprehensible incattus brainrot vagueposting

[zenith geode]

if santa was canon then coca cola would be canon and thats probably not a good thing

[wanton pendant]

Good point. Now back to actual lore discussion.

[long bloom]

what would yharon ta

[split mortar]

Die

[wanton pendant]

Mushrooms.

[icy veldt]

What wou

[wanton pendant]

No.

[split mortar]

Denied

[snow mountain]

hogswatch refers to the analogue for christmastime in the 20th? discworld novel The Hogfather, with the character being a large part of the plots backdrop, being an analogue for Santa Claus and other festive figures, along with being responsible for making the sun rise. Hogswatchnight itself takes place on the 32nd of december

[split mortar]

How much energy do sea prisms make

[snow mountain]

also my main man death is a central character so it's peak

[long bloom]

more than 1

[wanton pendant]

Like, not much, but it can do it forever.

Come on, we need lore questions, the lore economy is gonna dry up and we'll have to sell our lore stocks!

[snow mountain]

Santa is

[split mortar]

How many times more energy does exo prisms make compared to sea prisms

[split mortar]

Thats not a question

[wanton pendant]

I'd assume multiple thousands, millions maybe.

[split mortar]

Makes sense

[wanton pendant]

Since Sea Prisms are described as having a very weak charge if I remember right.

[split mortar]

Yeah
Its prob like idk a phone charger amount
Safe to lick but will get a fuzzy feel on the tongue
Lick a exo prism? Death

[fierce pagoda]

if sea prism is like one lightbulb, then one exo prism is like the sun in comparison. Probably not but imagine

[wanton pendant]

Miracle Matter Tongue.

[snow mountain]

watch battery

[split mortar]

Assimilated

[wanton pendant]

Maybe not quite so far, but you may be on the right track.

[fierce pagoda]

yeah that was kinda overkill

[snow mountain]

I must now sprite miracle boy with his miracle tongue

[wanton pendant]

Ok?

[pulsar ocean]

WONDER OF U
JOJO REFERENCE

[split mortar]

I imagine exo prisms are prob like
A single one a portable fusion reactor minimum

[wanton pendant]

That's probably closer.

[pulsar ocean]

what would crabulon taste like

[snow mountain]

you have wrought something terrible

[wanton pendant]

Mushroom.

Ok?

[split mortar]

Shrioms

[split mortar]

Ok why does that matter

[snow mountain]

micarcle byo

[split mortar]

And