lore-discussion

[wanton pendant]

He's kinda like that.

[split mortar]

We dunno

[wanton pendant]

More 850.

[split mortar]

Moonlord was prepared tho

The pillars are like
A portable army

[pulsar ocean]

why didnt the dragon of death instakill prime moonlord is he stupid

[wanton pendant]

Moon Lord had the power of Not Dying.

[split mortar]

Moonlord hit death with the phantasmal deathray and killed death from a distance

[spiral heron]

WTH

[wanton pendant]

He lost it on the moon, fell out of his pockets.

[wanton pendant]

That was a joke.

The power of Not Dying is Yharon's.

[spiral heron]

phew
i really believed that he could

[split mortar]

Considering its not out the question moonlord survives decapitation you aint too far off ig

[spiral heron]

so every time we slap Yharon he will just revive as always
Is he weaker than DoG?

[wanton pendant]

Yharon's obviously stronger.

[split mortar]

Boss progression is accurate

[zenith geode]

second strongest dragon behind zeratros iirc

[split mortar]

Yeah

[zenith geode]

well

[split mortar]

Ever

[wanton pendant]

Yes.

[zenith geode]

the late zeratros

[pulsar ocean]

evil 2 post moonlord

[spiral heron]

why is yharon so special?is he has anything different than the others dragons?

[pulsar ocean]

he doesnt die

[wanton pendant]

He can raise dragons from the dead.

This includes himself.

[split mortar]

Yharon is rebirth
He why they came back from death

[pulsar ocean]

the immortality kinda sucks tho you gotta wait dead for around 10-20 years before reviving and by that time some terrarian might just eradicate everyone you knew

[spiral heron]

ooh i see
somesort of cousin of ALduin

[wanton pendant]

It's 10.

[wanton pendant]

Not quite, but you get the idea.

[pulsar ocean]

wheres that said

[wanton pendant]

It IS possible to kill Yharon, unlike Alduin, but it's really hard.

[split mortar]

Dev statements

[wanton pendant]

Also, Alduin is WAY worse than Yharon.

[spiral heron]

i know bro
Skyrim lore is WAYY too op

[wanton pendant]

Luckily, the Alduin you fight in Skyrim isn't at full strength, but you can't kill him permanently since he's like a physical manifestation of the end of the world.

[spiral heron]

And of course the gods in skyrim are the laziest one in fiction
Idk for the aedras but 100% for the daedras

[pulsar ocean]

where did xeroc learn the ritual

[split mortar]

Made it

[pulsar ocean]

how
is he smart

[spiral heron]

good question

[split mortar]

Yes

[wanton pendant]

Probably.

[zenith geode]

xeroc's probably pretty intelligent yeah

[wanton pendant]

If Xeroc's so smart, why don't they get their God Taxes done sooner?

Are they stupid?

[split mortar]

Xeroc is the one who taxes

[spiral heron]

accurate for him

[pulsar ocean]

xeroc is like that one guy from jojo part 3 that also controlled the sun

[wanton pendant]

Not really.

[pulsar ocean]

minus everything else that being a god gives

[spiral heron]

xeroc is the verion PREMIUM +

[split mortar]

Embers mention

[wanton pendant]

That guy only controlled a big glowing ball, not the sun.

[pulsar ocean]

cal sun is also weaker

[spiral heron]

yeah it sounds less impressive said like that lol

[wanton pendant]

A hell of a lot stronger then that lacklustre Stand.

[split mortar]

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[pulsar ocean]

almost took out all of the crusaders

[wanton pendant]

Guess who could take out ALL the crusaders if they weren't so busy with their taxes, that's right, Xeroc!

[pulsar ocean]

the guy with the stand already paid his taxes

[spiral heron]

if Jotaro had Time stop at this moment he would obliterate him

[pulsar ocean]

you could say that about quite literally any stand user

[wanton pendant]

Back to Calamity.

[pulsar ocean]

would dio beat xeroc

[wanton pendant]

No.

He's weak to the sun.

[pulsar ocean]

u right

[spiral heron]

LOL it'true

[wanton pendant]

Xeroc has the power of the sun.

[pulsar ocean]

would jotaro beat xeroc

[wanton pendant]

I don't think a vampire would stand a chance.
Also no.

[spiral heron]

how will Xeroc interact with time stop

[wanton pendant]

Probably still works, no reason it wouldn't.

[pulsar ocean]

stand jump to the sun, star platinum : the world, beat up xeroc
gg profit

[wanton pendant]

But, like, how do you fight the sun.

Since it's the sun.

And the sun is not even the actual guy.

The guy's stronger than the sun.

[pulsar ocean]

im like 80% sure xeroc lives on the sun

[wanton pendant]

Thus, Xeroc outscales the sun.

[spiral heron]

how does Xeroc even looks like?

[pulsar ocean]

xeroc has a lower durability than the sun so star platinum beats xeroc

[wanton pendant]

We know what he looked like.

[pulsar ocean]

he looked like a malnourished monk pre ascension if i remember correctly

[spiral heron]

is he physically touchable?

[wanton pendant]

I mean, probably?

[pulsar ocean]

why not

anyways wonder of u beats xeroc

[spiral heron]

how?

[wanton pendant]

Here's what Xeroc looked like before becoming a god, unless there's a newer version I don't know about.

[pulsar ocean]

how does he counter wonder of u

[wanton pendant]

Incinerate the planet.

[pulsar ocean]

huh i remember different concept art

[pulsar ocean]

he wouldnt do that

gg

[wanton pendant]

I think you're thinking of the older one.

[spiral heron]

bruh
Jojo verse is cooked

[pulsar ocean]

if xeroc tried to incinerate the planet then the sun's heat would basically pursue tooru so a meteor thats bigger than the sun accidentally starts rapidly approaching its direction

[wanton pendant]

A meteor bigger than the sun?

I know it's a smaller sun.

But... come on.

[pulsar ocean]

its the force of calamity what do you think cant happen

[wanton pendant]

Also, the sun being destroyed would also kill everyone.

[spiral heron]

huuh?it's possible but it's weird
idk man
Like it's a bit random
i mean if it was oneshot Josuke would had lose

[wanton pendant]

Ok, back to Calamity.

No more bizarre adventures.

[pulsar ocean]

do you think there was a dragon of calamity and a god of calamity

[wanton pendant]

Unlikely for there to be both.

[spiral heron]

I am waiting for the black hole god personally

[wanton pendant]

Don't worry, that's not happening.

[pulsar ocean]

that would be stronger than xeroc

and xeroc is like kars

but not quite

[zenith geode]

do black holes even exist in calamity

[wanton pendant]

Shakidou was Emptiness, and wasn't as powerful.

[wanton pendant]

Presumably?

[spiral heron]

i mean it should if sun exist it means star exist and when star dies it lead to a black hole birth
I can be wrong though

[zenith geode]

well stars are made of mana instead of helium, iron, and everything in between

[wanton pendant]

Sun isn't a star.

Stars aren't stars, also.

[zenith geode]

minus the sun which is made of primordial light

[wanton pendant]

And stars dying doesn't necessarily create black holes.

[spiral heron]

well in this case it's probable that black hole don't exist😭

[zenith geode]

if they don't exist then draedon can probably make one

[wanton pendant]

Not so fast, black holes are created if too much mass coalesces in too small a space.

No reason that can't happen.

[pulsar ocean]

god of ton 618 (those who know) 💀 💀 💀

[zenith geode]

crows who mow

[spiral heron]

Probably
I guess we will found out in 1000 years
If Yharim is finally added

[wanton pendant]

It'll be closer to ten.

[pulsar ocean]

with sso and distortion before yharim he'll be out by the time deltarune recieves all of its chapters

[wanton pendant]

And Yharim is promised.

[spiral heron]

i hope soon
I'm done with infernum mod

[wanton pendant]

Infernum isn't canon, before you ask.

[pulsar ocean]

do it 4 more times different classes

[pulsar ocean]

is wrath of the gods canon

[wanton pendant]

No.

[pulsar ocean]

it was sarcasm

[spiral heron]

Oh you mean the attack the bosses do

[wanton pendant]

Making sure the other guy knows.

[wanton pendant]

And all the other Infernum changes.

[spiral heron]

Wait
The murasama
We found it in Draedron hell lab
does that mean Draedron created the Murasama?

[wanton pendant]

It's not canon.

And even then, no, he made other stuff.

[spiral heron]

Murasama isn't canon
But it's in Vanilla calamity

[wanton pendant]

Yes.

Dev items, donor items, crossover items and references aren't considered canon.

[pulsar ocean]

devs hate fun jetstream sam isnt canon

[pulsar ocean]

is draedon's heart canon if its basically senator armstrong's nanomachines from mgr

[wanton pendant]

That one is canon.

Don't ask how you get it in.

[pulsar ocean]

eat it

[spiral heron]

does yharon can lay eggs?

[wanton pendant]

Probably not, as he's a male, but even so it won't make Auric Dragons.

[spiral heron]

auric omelet

?

[wanton pendant]

No.

[spiral heron]

how does yharim fed his army?

[wanton pendant]

Taxing people for food, how else.

[spiral heron]

Bro deserve what happened to him
talking about what happened to him
What happened to him?

[wanton pendant]

What do you mean what happened to him?

Who are you referring, to, Yharim, Yharon?

[spiral heron]

Yharim

[wanton pendant]

He's in the Dragon's Aerie.

After surviving an assassination attempt about a year ago.

[spiral heron]

So first
What is dragon aerie
Second who tried to assassinate one of the most powerful being in the verse?

[wanton pendant]

Some realm the Dragon's had.
Braelor and Statis.

[spiral heron]

Braelor and Statis
are they dumb or what?

[wanton pendant]

No, they were heroes.

And then DoG sent them to the shadow relam (Distortion).

[zenith geode]

isnt xeroc way stronger than yharim

[long bloom]

yeah

[wanton pendant]

Yes.

Obviously.

Unmatched power of the sun.

[zenith geode]

i dont think anyone's tried to kill them

[wanton pendant]

Yharim would try if he got the chance.

Thus, Yharim Fought The Sun Theory!

[long bloom]

true!

[split mortar]

They would have won if not for dog
Yharim is strong but those two are also absurd

[zenith geode]

yharim would be vaporised i think

[split mortar]

Just not as absurd individually

[wanton pendant]

Braelor at the time could fight on Yharim's level.

And Statis is a master ninja.

Together they had Yharim on the ropes.

[spiral heron]

I see
So they aren't really dumb just unlucky that DOG was here

[wanton pendant]

DoG is allied to Yharim, and he's an opportunist.

He's not loyal, however.

[split mortar]

DoG changes what minorities he hates to specifically piss you off /j

[wanton pendant]

No, that part's real.

[pulsar ocean]

what kind of being even is noxus

[zenith geode]

good question

[wanton pendant]

Closer to Signus than DoG.

In function.

Not appearance.

We've no idea what he looks like.

[pulsar ocean]

and what is signus

[split mortar]

We dont know

[wanton pendant]

He's a jerk.

[pulsar ocean]

why didnt yharim just do the saitama training to break his limiter

[wanton pendant]

He tried.

But he's stupid.

And has too much hair.

[pulsar ocean]

i cant believe hes so stupid

[jaunty wraith]

Is the Martian invasion Canon?

[long bloom]

yes

all of their calamity lore is contained entirely to the shockstorm shuttle bestiary entry

[jaunty wraith]

Will they get more at some point?

[long bloom]

possibly

[wanton pendant]

Hey, don't forget Fovos Killed Mars Theory!

[long bloom]

what's that

[wanton pendant]

I mean, I think it's self explanatory from the name.

[long bloom]

not really no

[wanton pendant]

Well, you see, the theory states that before going to Terraria, Fovos destroyed Mars first.

Because... he does that kinda thing.

And it was probably on the way.

[long bloom]

intriguing

[wanton pendant]

Of course, it's only a theory.

There's also Martians Screwed Themselves Over Theory.

And Martians Killed Themselves To Spite Fovos Theory.

[long bloom]

did you come up with it?

[wanton pendant]

Yeah.

I'm great at the whole theory business.

[long bloom]

true

[wanton pendant]

The most important theory, obviously, is Birthday Theory.

They should make the Pumpkin Moon and Frost Moon canon.

[long bloom]

they should not

[wanton pendant]

Now, if you want a really crazy theory, there's Fovos is Phobos Theory, where the moon of Mars, Phobos, was actually an egg that Fovos hatched out of...
The other scholars of the lore... aren't so keen on this one.

[real silo]

I fw this theory

martian-moon lord

[wanton pendant]

At least someone's on board.

[honest obsidian]

where does this fit into calamity lore

[visual kiln]

im canon

[north root]

where is phobos is fovos is cthulhu theory

do you hate me or something

[pulsar ocean]

does mars have their own auric dragons

and had their own world soul

[split mortar]

We dunno

[split mortar]

Chat can i eat

[hoary berry]

no

[split mortar]

D:

[real glen]

How hungry

[pulsar ocean]

no

[split mortar]

D:

[calm patio]

🐴

[distant smelt]

Epic rap battles of calamity

Otonilou
Vs
Calamitas

[long bloom]

@proper oriole i summon thee

[proper oriole]

hi

[wanton pendant]

Hello.

I know the lore.

That other guy is here too, I guess.

[proper oriole]

seems so

[long bloom]

i was here before you man

[wanton pendant]

Silence, nerd.

[proper oriole]

lore

[wanton pendant]

Yes.

I have it.

What's your question of lore?

[long bloom]

i have it as well

[proper oriole]

uhh idk

[wanton pendant]

Please I need this.

[proper oriole]

i read the lore doc a couple months/years ago but it mightve updated

probably did

[wanton pendant]

I know the SECRET lore, that you can only find here by digging through dev statements.

Like Permafrost being old!

[proper oriole]

tell me, oh wise one

[wanton pendant]

Calamitas... had an edgy phase.

[proper oriole]

why do i taste blood

[wanton pendant]

That's bad.

[proper oriole]

the lore is too powerful

[wanton pendant]

You need to brush more.

[long bloom]

there hasn't been a major update in 16 months or something

[proper oriole]

i do brush

idk why i taste blood

[proper oriole]

yeh

[long bloom]

uhh

[proper oriole]

I'm not even bleeding I just checked

[long bloom]

did you know the sun isn't a star

[proper oriole]

How can I taste blood when there's no blood

[long bloom]

and it orbits the planet

[wanton pendant]

The stars are also not really stars.

They're a different thing.

That thing is magic.

[proper oriole]

I dislike this information and I will ignore ut

[wanton pendant]

Mean.

[proper oriole]

Does provi still live in the sun

[long bloom]

no

[wanton pendant]

No.

The sun would kill her.

[proper oriole]

Damn

[long bloom]

sun is xeroc's house now

[proper oriole]

So where's provi before we slaughter her

[wanton pendant]

Hiding.

Like a little baby.

Then we kill her girlfriends.

[proper oriole]

From yharim?

[wanton pendant]

And she gets mad.

[wanton pendant]

From everyone.

She doesn't wanna get murdered.

[long bloom]

mostly dog

[wanton pendant]

And everyone hates her.

[proper oriole]

We love gay provi

[long bloom]

who is by extension yharim

[wanton pendant]

She's homophobic, also.

[long bloom]

true

[proper oriole]

Homophobic AND gay???

[wanton pendant]

Pick a struggle, I know.

[proper oriole]

I still taste blood

[wanton pendant]

Did you see a doctor about this?

[proper oriole]

In the last 5 minutes???

No??

[long bloom]

did you eat coins

[wanton pendant]

Are any of your teeth lose?

[proper oriole]

I'm looking in the mirror and there's no blood

[proper oriole]

Not to my knowledge

[wanton pendant]

Is your reflection moving independently?

[proper oriole]

Uh maybe

Might be trapped in the mirror dimension

[mighty zenith]

the darkness is coming.

you need to run

[proper oriole]

spiders

[long bloom]

true

[proper oriole]

so many spider

s

LORE QUESTION

[wanton pendant]

Yes!?

[proper oriole]

is the sulfurous sea still likethat cuz of the dead bodies

[wanton pendant]

No.

[proper oriole]

awwww i liked that one

[long bloom]

stinky azafure fumes

[wanton pendant]

It's filled with industrial fumes and radiation.

[proper oriole]

pollution

[long bloom]

and toxic waste yeah

from our robot buddy draedon

[wanton pendant]

Dead bodies are in the dungeon.

[proper oriole]

is that why azafure is always on the same side as the sea

[wanton pendant]

Yes.

Since, in the lore, it's below it.

[proper oriole]

and in game

it is also below it

kinda

[wanton pendant]

It literally is.

[proper oriole]

i mean its just the outskirts atm

[wanton pendant]

They'll change it.

[proper oriole]

ik

i read the Unofficial Future Content Doc

[long bloom]

the crags is liveable bc silva was yeeted into the abyss (in the past) and dripped life energy onto it

then she got out

[proper oriole]

cant wait to see her dead body

[long bloom]

then yeeted again

[wanton pendant]

Presumably before she became a goddess.

[wanton pendant]

She's not dead.

She's mostly dead.

[proper oriole]

she might as well be

[long bloom]

might as well be

[wanton pendant]

There's a difference.

[long bloom]

fire react

[pliant ruin]

she's dead but its ok shell come back eventually

she's dead but william afton

[proper oriole]

shes more of a fucking phoenix than yharon is

[wanton pendant]

Some people obviously didn't watch that movie. Inconceivable.

[long bloom]

real

[pliant ruin]

i mean yharon will also come back eventually

butttt

[eager bluff]

he always comes back

[wanton pendant]

Wrong movie.

[pliant ruin]

he could actually be like killed for good if someone absorbed his soul

so fair enough i think

[proper oriole]

not if i have something to say about it

[wanton pendant]

You don't know how to ascend.

[proper oriole]

dont we technically do that with the yharon soul fragments

[wanton pendant]

No.

[proper oriole]

or are they not called that anymore

[wanton pendant]

They are called that.

[pliant ruin]

Not really, the soul fragments are just tiny shards of it

dude still has his soul

[proper oriole]

if i kill him enough times

[wanton pendant]

Do the shards grow back?

[proper oriole]

you dont know that

[wanton pendant]

Yes I do.

[eager bluff]

its like taking a single swipe of sandpaper to a thousand pound block of limestone

[proper oriole]

i mightve learned

[proper oriole]

what youre saying is if i kill him enough

[eager bluff]

for each kill

[proper oriole]

i can kill him for good

[eager bluff]

sure if you're willing to wait a billion years

[proper oriole]

they should add that actually

kill him like, 10k times and you just cant spawn him in again

[wanton pendant]

It takes ten years for him to respawn.

[long bloom]

roughly

[proper oriole]

ill just absorb yharims soul while i wait

[eager bluff]

thats not how that works

[wanton pendant]

Yharim has a normal soul.

[proper oriole]

i know :[

he just like yharon so he gets to be immortal (maybe?)

[pliant ruin]

nah

hes just a guy

hes actually like near the end of his lifespan atp

[wanton pendant]

He's not immortal.

[proper oriole]

thought he was bound to yharon cuz of azafure nonsense

[wanton pendant]

He's actively dying of old age.

[pliant ruin]

hes just a dude even

he's attuned to yharon yeah

[wanton pendant]

Azafure?

[proper oriole]

dude i wanna fight peak yharim

[wanton pendant]

They're BFFs, that lets you live longer.

[pliant ruin]

he is at his peak

[pulsar ocean]

why doesnt yharim just get younger is he stupid

[proper oriole]

if hes dying hes not at his peak

[wanton pendant]

Nothing to do with Azafure.

[eager bluff]

no he actively is at his peak

[wanton pendant]

He's got, like, < 10 years.

[pliant ruin]

his attunement with yharon dosen't make him immortal but it does increase his lifespan and make him constantly be at his literal best health possible

hes a grandpa but hes a incredibly buff and healthy grandpa

[proper oriole]

unless it got changed he was nearly tossed into the lava in azafure but yharon hatched and saved him

[pliant ruin]

with like 100 years of fighting experience and a cool suit of piss armor

[pulsar ocean]

he should laugh more laughing increases lifespan

[wanton pendant]

It was hell, which Azafure is in, I guess.

[proper oriole]

ohh right

[wanton pendant]

But Azafure itself isn't really related to him being old.

[proper oriole]

close enough

[proper oriole]

i mean it might be!

[wanton pendant]

It really isn't.

[eager bluff]

it in fact isnt

[proper oriole]

you dont know that

maybe the key to him being old is hidden away in azafure

[wanton pendant]

That'd be like saying Robin Hood got his powers from London, because it's in England.

[pulsar ocean]

why doesnt yharim politely ask draedon to transfer his brain into a robot body

[proper oriole]

yeah! you g et it

[wanton pendant]

Robots are sinful, duh.

[eager bluff]

it in fact isnt

[proper oriole]

you dont know that

cuz its HIDDEN

[eager bluff]

no i do know that because yharon isnt in there

[proper oriole]

HE MIGHT BE!

[wanton pendant]

He's not.

[proper oriole]

you can summon yharon in azafure

[wanton pendant]

He's with Yharim.

[pulsar ocean]

i thought yharim was the biggest atheist

[wanton pendant]

That means he wasn't there earlier.

[wanton pendant]

He's a misotheist.

He thinks the gods are sinful.

[eager bluff]

yeah if i drive to new york city that doesnt mean i live in new york city

[proper oriole]

cuz you gotta kill a dragon to be a god

and he likes dragons a lot

[proper oriole]

sure it doews

[pulsar ocean]

does yharim have a dragon fursona

[wanton pendant]

I mean, technically YOU don't have to kill the dragon.

[proper oriole]

yeah yeah yeah absorb a dragon soul

[wanton pendant]

For instance, Dragon Suicide, like we see in game.

[eager bluff]

check pins

[wanton pendant]

YOU'RE CRINGE!

[proper oriole]

who? yharon?

[wanton pendant]

Yeah, he takes damage by himself during the fight.

Since he hurts himself to use his attacks.

[stoic gulch]

Yeah ok water guy

[wanton pendant]

This means Yharon can literally kill himself.

[proper oriole]

thats not suicide cuz typically uou also shoot him or stab him in some way first

[wanton pendant]

You don't have to.

You can let him do it himself.

[proper oriole]

theres no way that every run of calamity is canon

[wanton pendant]

Every copy of Calamity is personalized.

[proper oriole]

i believe it

[wanton pendant]

Also, stealing other people's kills.

[proper oriole]

i mean i do also believe that computers have personality so its not too far fetched for me to believ ethat

[pulsar ocean]

the lawnmover only blindfolded run is canon

[proper oriole]

the run where you die in hardcore in 5 mins to a slime is canon

[wanton pendant]

What.

[proper oriole]

i stand by what i said

[pulsar ocean]

what if your pc thinks youre cringe and lame

[proper oriole]

if i put the ram in my computer in in an incorrect order it doesnt register the ram properly

[proper oriole]

i worship the machines so i dont think it does

[icy veldt]

+++ MACHINE SPIRIT APPEASED +++

[proper oriole]

:D

[split mortar]

New person

[feral skiff]

The “Every copy of Mario 64 is personalized” creepypasta is actually a really good concept for a game, and I hope someone uses it

Like depending on your hardware, some things around the game change, maybe a few new areas would appear, boss stats would be randomized. Idk i’m getting off-topic

[split mortar]

Lore

[wanton pendant]

Quick, ask a lore question!

[feral skiff]

would Yharim be good at driving trucks if he was given one

[wanton pendant]

Probably.

[pulsar ocean]

what is noxus' favorite color

[wanton pendant]

Darkness.

[vagrant star]

Okey

Less lore, sort of

But just rumination that's been in my head for ages

[pulsar ocean]

have you played voices of the void

[vagrant star]

What would the aerie even look like gameplay wise

Cause

[feral skiff]

No.. I probably should

[pulsar ocean]

you know the dreamscape from hollow knight

id imagine something like that

[thick slate]

but with rocks

its gotta have rocks

[split mortar]

We have very little to go off so up to interpretation
Its gonna serve as the arena for yharim at the minimum tho

In game

[pulsar ocean]

are they gonna add moral choices to calamity mod

to make it better

[pulsar ocean]

its free on itch io

[thick slate]

i hope u get a million ant bites

go my ants

[split mortar]

They dont wanna afaik

[pulsar ocean]

why

😔

[thick slate]

go my ants

[split mortar]

Send the ants

Gay people

[vagrant star]

And I know calamity mod isn't the type to shove its lore and story heavily into the players face (as in, have story focused moments beyond scal's monologue at the end of her fight as far as I know.)

But I'd really like it if it actually did for once. Like

And hear me out here (he's huffing dragon bias crack kick him already.) (HEAVY SPIT BALLING AND DAYDREAMING/CONCEPT PONDERING)

It could be this long ass walk to the right past a bunch of statues (maybe???) of each of the dragons. Maybe a message (not necessarily to the player, just to life in general or something.) on the baseplate of each statue. So the player has the option to speed over all the statues with whichever wings they have at that point, or they can slowly walk up the path and read all this stuff. (The statues themselves could maybe probably be mostly wall sprites or huge paintings in how they interact with the world so they don't take up a shit ton of walking space.)

Orange red grass and trees with stone bricks path.

Deffo needs a biome theme (my bias ass says a Tyrant Scrapped Leitmotif needs to show up in it but idfk lol)

Leading up to the aerie itself and the Yharim fight arena. Which I don't actually have thoughts on.

Tdlr: man wishes for Undertale new home segment but calamity mod and knows this won't happen but drops it into a discord chat anyway

gets eaten by ants

[vagrant star]

Also no I don't know the dreamscape from hollow knight, gonna look it up real quick

[odd magnet]

You know I wouldn’t be surprised if the way to the aerie is similar to how the dream nail works

[vagrant star]

Damn actually the dreamscape looks kinda fire

[split mortar]

Fight the sun

[odd magnet]

I wanna make calamity and hk parallels now

Both of those games are my top interests rn

[thick slate]

you wont believe who providence is inspired by

[odd magnet]

I see it now 😞 😞

This makes me like providence even more

[zenith geode]

that's right!

volcarona!

[magic epoch]

it goes in the square hole!

[hushed jasper]

Grian reference????

[thick slate]

no

[hushed jasper]

Wdym no????

[thick slate]

he got it from somewhere

[hushed jasper]

Who did

[thick slate]

grian

[hushed jasper]

Well yeah but literally nobody talked about it until he brought it back

[thick slate]

i didnt even know he said it

[hushed jasper]

In his latest life series

[thick slate]

thumb up

[hushed jasper]

Most of the episodes have the square hole

[thick slate]

i still think they are probably just referencing the original clip

not gria

[hushed jasper]

Chances are probably not but if they respond we will see

[thick slate]

@magic epoch hi

[hushed jasper]

Why ping them 💀

[thick slate]

i have an argument to win

[hushed jasper]

Lmfao

[thick slate]

its fine i kinda know them

[hushed jasper]

Oh ok 👍

Btw ping me the winner of the argument I’ll be busy working so I can’t really check often

[thick slate]

will do

[magic epoch]

hi taylor

[distant smelt]

Hmm
No

[thick slate]

hii

[wanton pendant]

YOUR SUGGESTIONS...
YOUR BEAUTIFUL SUGGESTIONS...
WILL NOW BE DISCARDED...
VIA THE SQUARE HOLE.

[stoic gulch]

That’s right the square hole!!

[wanton pendant]

CORRECT!

[twilit aspen]

so the leader of the dragon cult wanted to resurrect a dragon. do we think this could even be possible? unless they were just trying to bring back yharon?

[mighty zenith]

well, yharon was alive during the whole crusade as far as we know

and it's made pretty clear that once an auric dragon's soul is consumed, they can no longer be reborn

it's why Yharon is the last auric dragon

because he couldn't bring back his people anymore

[twilit aspen]

yeah thats my point. isnt it literally impossible to bring back a dragon, so the cult's leader's goal is just a pipe dream?

[mighty zenith]

they got some screws loose

it's the lunatic cultist after all

[wanton pendant]

It's not possible, the Auric Dragons' souls have been assimilated into the bodies of the gods. If Yharon can't bring them back, no one can.

[sharp hemlock]

I like the lore

[split mortar]

Same

[pliant ruin]

i hate the lore it killed my grandma

[wanton pendant]

I like the lore.

Sorry about your grandma I'm built different.

[limpid saddle]

They were trying to find a way to do it

Because they don't know its impossible

Hard to understand the composition of a God Soul when they explode whenever removed from the body

[north root]

do we know which dragon the dragon cult is trying to bring back

does it not matter

[limpid saddle]

I think it's just 'dragons' in general

[north root]

are we SURE it's not skeletron

[limpid saddle]

They seem to worship the culture & idea of dragons over any specific entity

Though one would assume the end-goal is Zeratros

[north root]

did every dead dragon become a god eventually

[split mortar]

The only way for a dragon to perma die is via god ascension and fovos

[pulsar ocean]

skeletron's skeleton kinda doesnt look like a dragon's

[pulsar ocean]

so what makes fovos so special

[split mortar]

The guy was gonna permakill zeratros without god ascending

[pulsar ocean]

how

[north root]

phantasmal deathray

[split mortar]

We dont know
I doubt its yharim lying cause the implications are large if true and also it goes against the idea of xeroc betraying zeratros

[north root]

zeratros sadly did not farm for the rod of discord and therefore wasn't able to dodge the phantasmal deathray. so the moon lord fatally wounded him

[limpid saddle]

what thanatoshi said phantasmal deathray

wouldnt be a very good deathray if it didnt kill things

[pulsar ocean]

if i add the word death to any attack will it deal lethal damage

[split mortar]

Yes
Zote logic applies

[icy veldt]

Death flatuence

[wanton pendant]

We don't know, but I'd assume most did. You gotta factor for things like Fovos destroying their souls somehow.

[light linden]

wait what

when was that revealed?

[wanton pendant]

I mean, they imply Fovos can do that.

[north root]

fovos more lklike. more like five os

[wanton pendant]

I can't prove it.

[split mortar]

The game

Its in the game

[wanton pendant]

You know, the whole Zeratros' soul was gonna be gone forever thing.

[split mortar]

^

[light linden]

I was assuming it was something else

specifically yharon was dead and zeratros would die before he revived

[north root]

yharim has never lied he just has never entirely correctly told the complete truth either

[wanton pendant]

Sure, it COULD have been possible that I'd all be fine.

[split mortar]

Well we dunno if dragons cant respawn if they die while yharon is down

[wanton pendant]

But I feel Fovos is supposed to have some soul killing power.

[icy veldt]

[north root]

what if a god consumes an auric soul what happens

[wanton pendant]

Regardless, I still feel most Auric Souls wound up in gods, but there may have been stragglers.

[wanton pendant]

Hospital.

[split mortar]

Mental suffering

Bad mental suffering

[icy veldt]

Polterghast

[north root]

personally i think they turn into a dragon

[split mortar]

Consume another? Polterghast

[wanton pendant]

That's if they do three.

[icy veldt]

How it feels to consume five Auric soul

[light linden]

still wonder if a dragon absorbed an auric soul

[wanton pendant]

Good luck pulling that off.

[wanton pendant]

Never happened.

[light linden]

again

[wanton pendant]

Dragons don't fight dragons.

[light linden]

yharim would've turbo killed them

and likely erased them from history

[icy veldt]

Dragons wouldn't do that to each other. They're too tightly-knit, to the point that even the blatantly-evil Dragon of Flame was allowed to live by the so-called "benevolent protectors"

[north root]

if a dragon consumes an auric soul they become permafrost

[split mortar]

I dont think so cause it would have to be mentioned narratively

[north root]

he is the mastermind and inventor of all evil

[wanton pendant]

Blatantly speculative, Dragon of Flame might have been too sneaky and lived off eating little girls' mothers.

Living in hiding in space with pirates.

[north root]

can dragons breathe in space

[split mortar]

Probably a few

[wanton pendant]

Maybe.

[split mortar]

They were varied

[icy veldt]

My theory: the other Dragons probably kept the Dragon of Flame around because it was useful whenever the peasants got a bit too uppity

[split mortar]

Cant say no or yes for certain

Especially since dragon of night exists which id say is most likely to be able to

[north root]

they need the dragon of flame to cook their chicken nuggets

[pulsar ocean]

why dont just use the dragon of chicken nuggets

[humble fog]

Yharon was busy

[north root]

the dragon of chicken nuggets only gives you uncooked chicken nuggets

[prime mauve]

What about the dragon of cooked chicken nuggets

[wanton pendant]

That guy died in 'Nam.

Not during the war, he was on holiday when Fovos attacked.

[prime mauve]

but he would be reborn duh

yharon moment

[wanton pendant]

Someone sniped his soul, made the God of Grills.

[pulsar ocean]

why didnt all the gods just jump yharim at the same time

[wanton pendant]

They're stupid.

[pulsar ocean]

obviously

[wanton pendant]

And Providence was too racist.

And Dogma had it coming.

God of Anti-Social Behaviour wouldn't cooperate.

[pulsar ocean]

everybody had it coming for MURDERING the innocent dragons

[frosty charm]

what does this quote refer to

[long bloom]

polterghast being more active

[wanton pendant]

'Enemies in the Dungeon are buffed and begin spawning Phantom Spirits.'

They're running away from them.

[frosty charm]

ah

forgot about polterghast lowk

[long bloom]

valid

[wanton pendant]

Polterghast's pretty important, you need to kill it for Auric equipment.

[frosty charm]

you do?

[long bloom]

you need ruinous souls for bloodflare armor

and you need bloodflare armor for auric armor

anyway yeah polterghast really isn't narratively important

at least right now

[wanton pendant]

I'd argue it is as it's one of the first clear signs that Yharim is not as great as he presents himself, since its creation is due to him being negligent and apathetic, which even he admits.

Anyway, do you think Moon Lord created the pillars, or are they some other space lifeform he controls/works with?

[pastel gazelle]

Is there any canonical lore for the pirates? Because I have headcanon lore for them that I just remembered, and am trying to figure out if anything contradicts it.

[jaunty wraith]

The only new thing relating to pirates is a new dialoge the captian has talking about a harmonic voice in the seas

So that implies he maybe had a run in with anahita

[pastel gazelle]

My personal theory is that they fought in the crusades on Yharim's side, but for pay rather than any sort of principles (either as mercenaries or as official soldiers). When the crusades sort of awkwardly petered out and Yharim stopped doing things, he didn't give them any proper severence pay, and they ended up turning to petty crime and banditry on the seas (especially when their flying boats stopped working).

[wanton pendant]

They're pirates, don't need too much explanation.

But I do think at least some would be former Yharim guys.

[jaunty wraith]

The lore is thier on the run from Nintendo after emulating a 40 year old game

[pastel gazelle]

I mean. They're a unified faction of still-living humans who actively exist, and the only such faction you encounter in all of Calamity.

As a side benefit, that makes it so that Amidas liking the Pirate NPC has some fun lore attached to it.

[wanton pendant]

I mean, society has all but collapsed, a lot of people would be turning to crime.

[pastel gazelle]

That's just the thing: within the game of Terraria, there aren't that many other people you see, period. And most of them seem to be doing more or less their own thing.

[jaunty wraith]

Aernt we still on a small island in calamity

[wanton pendant]

Yeah, but in Calamity, we're seeing only part of a continent, and that continent is ground zero for the crusade.

Not a small island, don't know where you got that from.

[pastel gazelle]

Alright, fair enough.

[jaunty wraith]

Because both sides are surrounded by ocean and sulphuric sea

[wanton pendant]

The game world isn't accurate to canon.

Since, otherwise, the Abyss is actually pretty small.

And hell isn't even that deep.

Again, Ilmeris is meant to be around the size of Italy.

MUCH bigger than a large world.

[jaunty wraith]

Would this mean the world be the size of europe

[north root]

the yharim update actually makes the world the size of a minecraft world and adds forced multiplayer

[north root]

i've always thought of the terraria playable world as the size of australia

[wanton pendant]

The entire world?

[north root]

it ties in with my australian yharim theory

[jaunty wraith]

Your what?

[wanton pendant]

Ignore her, she's insane.

[north root]

thats not even part of the epic lore document thats just true facts

[wanton pendant]

Also, no, there is literally no reason to believe the size of the world in Calamity is the size of Europe. That would cause so many issues.

[jaunty wraith]

Why we arguing about size, size doesnt matter

[north root]

i thought we just called it italy because nobody can be bothered to spell ilimres, didn't think there was actually a lore reason

[wanton pendant]

Yes, that's why we call it Italy and Ilmerians Seacilians.

Not because Ilmeris is hard to spell.

[jaunty wraith]

Does that mean the sea king has an Italian accent?

[wanton pendant]

Amidias? Wait for SSO.

[north root]

amidais? oh, he's in sea king of sunken sea overhaul

[jaunty wraith]

Wait hold on didnt they end up switching sides in yharims crusade or was that old lore?

[wanton pendant]

What, no?

I don't remember that in the Old Lore.

[north root]

prehistoric lore

primordial lore

[north root]

why do they go outside and touch grass after golem then, not just after moon lord

[jaunty wraith]

If i recall my old lore, ilmeris was working with yharim until he wanted to summon the moon lord which they declined, so he sent calamitas to boil the entire thing

[north root]

is there a lore reason

is it the biannual cult outing

[pastel gazelle]

is Australian Yharim more or less silly than Hawai'ian Calamitas?

[wanton pendant]

I... whatever, that's not remotely canon.

[wanton pendant]

Less.

Since Calamitas is somewhere between Spanish and Brazilian.

[jaunty wraith]

Calamitas doesnt have a British accent anymore?

[wanton pendant]

No.

Retconned.

Thank God.

[north root]

i think the australian yharim theory comes from my first exposure to calamity being from an australian youtuber

[pastel gazelle]

Ah, I had headcanoned Azafurian cuisine as being somewhat similar to Hawai'ian cuisine, and then the idea of Calamitas eating Spam entered my brain and refused to leave.

[wanton pendant]

What the hell, her life sucks enough, sure.

[north root]

i was so scared when i heard her voice at the start of stained brutal calamity i swear to god

[wanton pendant]

Good thing Stained, Brutal Calamity isn't canon.

[north root]

then again the reveal that she was british all along would have increased my rage damage by 1000% or something

[jaunty wraith]

Wait... that would mean that calamitas is... Latina

shadow the hedgehog wants to know your location

[wanton pendant]

She's already Calamity Shadow The Hedgehog.

[pastel gazelle]

clones and all

[north root]

actually why hasn't evil fanny made a reference to that? ccr needs update stat

[wanton pendant]

See, you get it.

[pulsar ocean]

Would yharim be more evil if he was British

[wanton pendant]

Yes.

Where do you think Dogma was from?

[distant smelt]

Yharim is the east India company

Actually no they’re still more evil

[north root]

utah

[wanton pendant]

No, that's where Freddy Fazbear is from.

[north root]

ever wondered why the corruption is purple, guy?

[wanton pendant]

The man behind the slaughter...

[naive storm]

Then he would stab us

?

[north root]

why doesn't yharim use a boomerang instead of a sword? is he stupid?

[wanton pendant]

He's not from the Water Tribe.

[latent bolt]

I'll make you eat those words!

[icy veldt]

Calamitas est Hispanica, non Romana
||Calamitas is Spanish, not Roman||

[north root]

amabo noli loqui Latinam ante me, est formidolosum ac inquietatans

||please don't speak Latin in front of me, it is terrifying and disturbing||

[icy veldt]

In my high-school Latin class, we were taught to use the archaic locative case form Latine with loquor, loqui. Also, formidolosus should be formidolosa (to refer to [lingua] Latina) and inquietatio should be inquietans (using an adjective instead of a noun)

Also, you could consider using est enim... instead of just est to mean "for it is..."

[north root]

i think for formidolosus that's using the impersonal so there's an implied 'id"

[icy veldt]

So that would be the neuter form formidolosum

[wanton pendant]

Nerd.

[icy veldt]

You are in the nerd channel. Don't be surprised

[north root]

anyway the point of the message was that you're traumatizing me by reminding me of latin class

[icy veldt]

Aw

But I enjoy it!

[north root]

if astrum deus' name doesn't get hotfixed to be astrorum deus i will literally uh umm idk

[wanton pendant]

Changing it to Astrum Theós, got it.

[north root]

i think i've always assumed siIva and xeroc were like at least friendly with one another

is this true? are they actually friends

do they not know about each other

do they care at all

[long bloom]

we do not know

[north root]

that's about what i expected

[real silo]

Camar

To an extreme degree

[digital anchor]

Who are Braelor and Statis?

[fleet wedge]

Which one of them?

[long bloom]

both legendary warriors (and dating) braelor is the champion of silva, and statis is the last ninja of the onyx kinsmen tribe

less than a year ago in the story, they fought and almost killed yharim, but dog showed up and threw them into the distortion

statis made a deal with signus to escape back to terraria, but braelor is still stranded there

in the future, they'll both be wandering npcs, and at least statis will even have an entire questline

[thick slate]

gay

[long bloom]

true

[split mortar]

Camar
Rune?

[wheat walrus]

Camar sounds like Azafurian Jamal

[distant smelt]

East India company

[wanton pendant]

Someone doesn't know about their divorce.

[odd magnet]

Who the hell are dogma and camar, how many characters are in this game

[wanton pendant]

Dogma is the god that tries to turn Yharim into a God-King.

Likely one of the first, if not the first dead in the crusade.

Most of his remains make up the Hive Mind boss.

He's much worse than Yharim.

[odd magnet]

Ohh so he’s what becomes the corruption?

[wanton pendant]

He is ONE of the things that became the corruption, yes.

[odd magnet]

Also that’s embarrassing first your name is dogma, second you are one of the first to die in the crusade

[wanton pendant]

His name wasn't Dogma.

That's his power.

God of Dogma.

[cloud ibex]

their name probably wasn't dogma

but they were the god of dogma

[wanton pendant]

We don't know his name, so we call him Dogma.

[odd magnet]

What kind of power is dogma

What is dogma

[wanton pendant]

Religious law.

That cannot be changed.

[odd magnet]

Ah

[wanton pendant]

Dogma is a principle or set of principles laid down by an authority as incontrovertibly true.

He died due to being defied.

[odd magnet]

Hm

[wanton pendant]

Guess he didn't have that Dogma in him.

[odd magnet]

And what about camar?

Who is camar

[wanton pendant]

Perforators are also mainly made of War, but that's most of what we know about him.

No Calamity character with that name.

Don't worry about it.

[odd magnet]

God of war? Or legit just made of war?

[wanton pendant]

God of War.

Not, like, the literal concept of war.

Not Kratos.

[split mortar]

Camarune is a OC of altraxia

[odd magnet]

Of who?

[split mortar]

The person who said camar

[wanton pendant]

You know, the sword.

[split mortar]

[odd magnet]

Oh

Wait so like, now I have a new question

How many gods died for the corruption and crimson to happen?

[wanton pendant]

Hundreds.

It's all corpse.

[split mortar]

We dunno the exacts but yeah likely hundreds for the hardmode varients

[wanton pendant]

Yharim killed A LOT of gods.

[odd magnet]

What about hallow?

[wanton pendant]

Also corpses.

Also hundreds.

[odd magnet]

Fucking hell

[split mortar]

Just of good gods

Instead of evil ones

[wanton pendant]

Yeah that's where he stored them.

[split mortar]

I am not kidding when i say the crusade caused the population to half globally

[odd magnet]

No wonder we don’t fight that many gods they’re all dead

[split mortar]

Yeah

Yharim was rather successful

[wanton pendant]

Most of the surviving gods are in hiding.

And then there's Slime God.

Who is built different.

[split mortar]

The guy knows how to run

[odd magnet]

He shouldn’t have died at queen slime

I know deep down he just fled again

[wanton pendant]

Providence, for instance, is also in hiding, you just anger her so he tries to kill you without running away.

[split mortar]

Its just a bandaid fix for the fact they couldnt move slime god post queen slime

[wanton pendant]

Yet.

[split mortar]

Still not guaranteed

[wanton pendant]

There are presumably a few dozen gods hiding somewhere, but likely very far from where you are.

[odd magnet]

I do wonder why you don’t rlly see him at the queen slime fight

[wanton pendant]

Because he's inside the slime.

[split mortar]

I theorise slime god is the slime god sized crystal ball in queen slime

[wanton pendant]

He became one with the slime.

He's the Slime God.

[odd magnet]

That’s what the crystal is?

[wanton pendant]

What the hell, sure.

[odd magnet]

This slime god lore is confusing

[wanton pendant]

Slime God is also trans.

Fun fact.

[odd magnet]

What

[wanton pendant]

Genderfluid.

Well, more genderslime right now.

[odd magnet]

Oh that makes sense actually

[wanton pendant]

But again, there's really not many gods left, we fight, like, two that aren't already dead.

[odd magnet]

Sad

[odd magnet]

Would this mean we could’ve had an astral paladin

[wanton pendant]

Slime God might be swapped with Calamitas Clone.

[odd magnet]

Or is this straying to goozma territory

[wanton pendant]

I mean, there's no reason he COULD'T make one from the infection, it's just that that might not be a great idea since it has a mind of its own, kinda.

[odd magnet]

Is the clone really that weak?

[wanton pendant]

Calamitas Clone only has a tiny fraction of Calamitas' power.

And Slime God, while a weak god, is still a god.

Also, the Clone is insane.

[odd magnet]

My goat’s moving to post plantera scales of power possibly

[wanton pendant]

Calamitas Clone... is fought around the same time as Plantera.

Not after.

They're an alternative, kinda, since they unlock Lunatic's summon.

[odd magnet]

What’s with the clone anyway? Especially it’s look, Why did the devs just make a weaker clone of calamitas as a boss fight?

[wanton pendant]

Ask Fabsol The design's outdated, and I think the reason was because they wanted to make a harder version of Calamitas' fight so they made Supreme Calamitas.

And later wrote that the original was a fake.

And then they rewrote the whole lore.

[odd magnet]

How many bosses have outdated designs, actually better question how many boss designs are up to date?

[wanton pendant]

So... uh...

In game design, or sprite?

[dusk laurel]

er

most bosses

most entities in the mod need redesigns

[odd magnet]

What do you mean?

[dusk laurel]

bosses, enemies, npcs

[wanton pendant]

Do you want to know if the boss fights are up to date, or the bosses sprites?

[odd magnet]

Both

[wanton pendant]

So, most boss sprites I believe are up to date.

And most fights are outdated to hell and back.

Thanks Fabsol.

A few do have very outdated sprites.

Like Yharon, Ravager, DoG, Clone...

[dusk laurel]

most are being redesigned eventually

exos and scal are some exceptions

[wanton pendant]

Some might get touched up, but have an overall finished design.

Like, Yharon and Ravager are getting a complete new design. Clone is also getting one at some point.

DoG is getting another resprite.

[odd magnet]

Wasn’t he also getting an increase in size again?

[wanton pendant]

There's probably a bunch that might get resprites but not entire new designs.

[wanton pendant]

Big time.

[odd magnet]

Would this also affect thanatos or are they staying the same?

[wanton pendant]

Exo Mechs sprites are modern.

[long bloom]

no resprites planned for them

[odd magnet]

I meant the size

[wanton pendant]

They're unlikely to change.

[odd magnet]

Not exactly the sprites

[wanton pendant]

No need to make Thanatos bigger.

It's already huge.

[long bloom]

why would the size change but not the sprite

[odd magnet]

I don’t know actually

[long bloom]

[odd magnet]

Hmm

[odd magnet]

What’s the most outdated design and the most up to date one?

[wanton pendant]

Yharon, and Calamitas.

(And even then Calamitas' is having her town NPC sprite touched up to be less red.)

[long bloom]

un-strawberried

[north root]

if yharim is old enough to be near the end of his natural lifespan

is he senile

does he have dementia

[odd magnet]

Yharon? Not like? Polterghast?

[long bloom]

he's well past the end of his natural lifespan

[long bloom]

yharon's sprite is quite significantly older than any other boss

[odd magnet]

Oh

[north root]

do the yharim stimulants cure dementia and alzheimers and cataracts and chronic back pain

[long bloom]

it was made in january 2017

7 months after the mod released

[woeful hatch]

What if that's why he got his armor upgraded

Not to fight us better, but you avoid back pain

[wanton pendant]

Calamitas has all the back pain in the world.

She sleeps on rocks.

The Tyrant's cruel spell, giving all his back pain to Calamitas.

[pliant ruin]

yharon is the only one of the Bizzare ziggum sprites still in the mod ithink

[long bloom]

the first concept art that inspired the upcoming resprite was made in july 2018
so it's been over 7 years coming

spriter hell gif

[split mortar]

Wha

[long bloom]

ziggums is a former dev

[pliant ruin]

Ziggums is the guy who made a bunch of the old calamity sprites

[split mortar]

Oh ok

[pliant ruin]

All of his sprites have a very distinct style that is like

very Odd

[long bloom]

the mspaint blobs

[wanton pendant]

I liked the Yharon sprite.

[pliant ruin]

Like you can tell something is a ziggums sprite they all have this sort of blobby look to them

[split mortar]

Yeah i asssociated that with old cal sprites

[long bloom]

bros brush is too thick

[long bloom]

do you know who sprited aqua scourge, brimmy and calclone and such

they look similar but idk who it was

they also did ravager and i think signus

[split mortar]

Gay

[wanton pendant]

That's gay.

[pliant ruin]

thanks for the input melon gun

[pliant ruin]

idk who made those

[split mortar]

Trans

[wanton pendant]

That's transgender.

[stoic gulch]

No it’s transcendent

Trans people turn into gods

Yup yup yeah

My source?

Slime god

[wanton pendant]

No, you're thinking of Transformers.

[split mortar]

Yharim happened to the trans community

[wanton pendant]

Yharim is the opposite of woke.

[stoic gulch]

He kisses Marke tho…

[split mortar]

Yharim is gay but like anti woke
Homophobic gay idk

[wanton pendant]

Look what he did to the LGBT youth.

[pulsar ocean]

hes sleeping

[limpid saddle]

was scrolling by & saw calclone activated me like a sleeper agent

she's my goat...

[wanton pendant]

If only we could spare her...

[lunar island]

you cant save everyone

[wanton pendant]

That doesn't mean we can't try.

[thick slate]

THATS WHAT IM SAYING

everyone is like "no ur an idiot"

[mighty zenith]

yharim is politician gay

[odd magnet]

Yharim party or draedon party which one we voting for guys

[pulsar ocean]

remember when yharim slammed the table and it shook the whole world or the continent i dont remember

[wanton pendant]

It killed everyone in the room.

[woeful hatch]

Draedon

They both suck

But draedon sucks in a mostly predictable way

He has one focus, and only that

Yharim is more emotional and driven

[odd magnet]

I’d pick draedon cause I like robots

I like machinery

[pliant ruin]

yharim also just sucks more objectively speaking i think

[woeful hatch]

Eh, idk about that

Yharim does seem like he has a sort of moral code

[split mortar]

Yharim has a moral code but that moral code also pushes him to do genocide

[pliant ruin]

He does but that moral code

yeah

Like

From what we know

The worst Draedon did was the Plague

which yea, is . Very Immoral and Bad

but its just