lore-discussion

[pliant ruin]

three auric souls idk man ur the sludge

[wanton pendant]

Three, you're Polterghast now.

[icy veldt]

Would be a cool boss in a future update. "The Shattered Divinity" or something

[wanton pendant]

Four, how?

[wanton pendant]

We already have Polterghast and Evil2.

[twilit aspen]

four you become a photorealistic human being that exists inside of terraria

[thorn drift]

no you just straight up turn into crackhead polterghast

[split mortar]

Oh hey sunstorm

[thorn drift]

hi

[split mortar]

Piss polter

[pliant ruin]

clearly the sludge..

[icy veldt]

What if you were already a crackhead before ascending?

[pliant ruin]

god of cocaine

[prime mauve]

god of cocaine

[wanton pendant]

Providence.

[prime mauve]

DANG IT

[pliant ruin]

bro.

[thorn drift]

Ultra crackhead

[icy veldt]

Accurate

[pliant ruin]

same braincell 🤝

[twilit aspen]

could you snort an auric soul if you tried hard enough

[icy veldt]

New objective: get Provi re-addicted to crack

[wanton pendant]

Probably not.

[thorn drift]

no

[prime mauve]

yharon soul fragment smarties

[split mortar]

A shard of yharons soul is like the size of your head

[thorn drift]

You have to absorb an auric soul in a very specific way to ascend

so no

[wanton pendant]

Well....

[prime mauve]

they didn't say snort to ascend

[split mortar]

Gonna need onepiece levels of fuckery to do that

[icy veldt]

The butt?

[prime mauve]

just snort in general

[twilit aspen]

exactly what if they’re just snorting the soul for the love of the game

[thorn drift]

I mean if you ground it up into a fine dust then sure

[prime mauve]

also for all we know it could be snorting the soul is the ascension ritual

[twilit aspen]

precisely

[wanton pendant]

What kind of Dogma is this?

[queen moon]

How high can you get by smoking an auric soul

[thorn drift]

Wait how does one turn a soul into snortable powder

[prime mauve]

xeroc snorts dragon confirmed???

[queen moon]

Lore coherent question

[wanton pendant]

A soul can't be cut... So...?

[prime mauve]

yharon soul fragment

[icy veldt]

Yharon soul shart

[prime mauve]

Just do whatever that is but smaller

[wanton pendant]

Yharon Soul Slice.

[split mortar]

Depends on the soul

[thorn drift]

Turn the soul fragment into a miniature yharon and kill it too

[wanton pendant]

Dragon of Psychoactive Chemicals...

[thorn drift]

infinite size glitch

[thick slate]

yumm

[split mortar]

If its the soul of weed then you are gonna ascend into godhood a new way

[thorn drift]

Okay important lore question

[twilit aspen]

god of gas station weed

[thorn drift]

Where is the god of cocaine in calamity

[wanton pendant]

Dead, probably.

[thorn drift]

Was there a dragon of cocaine

[gritty kraken]

Silva

[wanton pendant]

If there was a god of it, then probably not.

We all saw that.

[icy veldt]

NOOOOOOOO!!

[thorn drift]

There would have to be for a god of it to exist

[icy veldt]

Not exactly

[wanton pendant]

Not how that works.

[twilit aspen]

thats like chainsaw man rules

oops i misread

[thorn drift]

Ik but there would have to be a dragon representing something similar

[wanton pendant]

So not cocaine.

[thorn drift]

Drugs

[wanton pendant]

Dragon of Meth.

[twilit aspen]

there had to have been a dragon of alcohol even if drug dragons are out of the question

[thorn drift]

And the dragon is just entirely blue crystals

[wanton pendant]

Oh no.

[twilit aspen]

blue crystal?

[thick slate]

hi its me

[twilit aspen]

this guy knows a thing or two about blue crystals

[thick slate]

dragon of alcohol

[icy veldt]

Dragon of hand sanitizer -> god of drunkenness

[thick slate]

yepp

[wanton pendant]

You are not using hand sanitizer correctly.

[icy veldt]

No, I am. It's everyone else that's wrong

[queen moon]

I think the best way of absorbing an auric soul is to apply it like steroids

[twilit aspen]

i thought you injected steroids

[queen moon]

Yep

[twilit aspen]

oh

[wanton pendant]

You guys inject steroids?

I've been doing it wrong!

[twilit aspen]

good grief

[split mortar]

What

[twilit aspen]

didn’t mean for that

[wanton pendant]

Please don't do that.

[split mortar]

The fuck was that image

[wanton pendant]

Where are you getting those?

[twilit aspen]

i’m stealing those

[queen moon]

Draedon probably has Garmin now that i am thinking

[wanton pendant]

Who?

[queen moon]

Garmin

[wanton pendant]

Who?

[icy veldt]

German?

[wanton pendant]

No, Garmin.

Learn to read.

[split mortar]

See draedon is autistic
Fuck you waterwraith

[icy veldt]

It's obviously a misspelling!

[wanton pendant]

What the hell did I do??

[split mortar]

Say fusing bees with nukes isnt a autism symptom

[wanton pendant]

It's not!

[queen moon]

Its like house with mouse bites

[icy veldt]

If I had nukes, I'd totally strap them to bees as well

[queen moon]

They are connected

[split mortar]

Idk ill trust the creator of autism has autism symptoms

[queen moon]

Calamity is cannon on House M.D

[wanton pendant]

I wouldn't, that guy was crazy.

[queen moon]

Is this true?

[split mortar]

that last one

Is wack

[thick slate]

true

[icy veldt]

That last one's probably referring to an upgrade, tbh

[queen moon]

This may be cannon guys

[wanton pendant]

How can a Calamity fan laugh at this? It has too much writing.

[queen moon]

Shut up walter white

Gaming

[wanton pendant]

Shut.

Up.

[twilit aspen]

that’s what my player is after it’s canon as far as i’m concerned

[queen moon]

My player is not after draedon's heart

He's after his dih🥀

[pulsar ocean]

dragon's

[split mortar]

I wonder how a pro yharim terrarian would affect the world

[wanton pendant]

Calamitas would probably die. :(

[thorn drift]

Actually speaking of why did calamitas get spared by us?

[thick slate]

[split mortar]

Objectively worse gameplay if you kill her probably

[wanton pendant]

Because the current version of the mod assumes you're not Yharim 2 I think. I think a Dev mentioned you'll be able to bully her or something.

[queen moon]

This sounds good

[wanton pendant]

Horrible thing to say.

Like, theoretically due to how the Terrarian is you works, being able to kill Calamitas as an option makes sense.

[twilit aspen]

what if all yharim needed was a good nap

[wanton pendant]

Unreasonable.

[woeful hatch]

Gonna give him one

A dirt nap

[wanton pendant]

Under a six foot thick blanket.

In wooden pajamas.

[twilit aspen]

wooden pajamas is a new one thats good

[queen moon]

This also sounds good

[thick slate]

i dont think that would be very comfortable

[thick slate]

sounds quite heavy

[queen moon]

But hes using auric tesla armor

And thats probably heavier

Is a killogramme of steel heavier than a killogramme of feathers?

[icy veldt]

No. The feathers are heavier, including the emotional weight of what you did to all those chickens

[queen moon]

This image pmo🥀

[icy veldt]

It would also work if your Terrarian is completely unforgiving

[thick slate]

ifhnny.co

[queen moon]

Unfunny.co

[icy veldt]

Instead of being Yharim 2

[fallen kindle]

I forgot about that site

does it still exist?

[icy veldt]

Like if the Terrarian decides "you attacked me, so you die, no matter how you try to excuse it"

[thick slate]

Not. Cool.

[twilit aspen]

dude my ifunny account when i was in like 7th grade was so lit

[thick slate]

ur 100 years old

ive decided

[twilit aspen]

okay

[pliant ruin]

im 5 METERS TALL !!

[twilit aspen]

i was born yesterday

[pliant ruin]

5 meters tall haha got them

[thick slate]

ur the youngest prrson ever

[pliant ruin]

im dinosaurusu raaargh

[wheat walrus]

i can get u banned now btw

[twilit aspen]

which calamity character would be an ifunny user

its gotta be dog right

[pliant ruin]

i didnt say age though ...

[twilit aspen]

him exclusively

[split mortar]

Cheese the elder

[pliant ruin]

i juts said im 5

clearly

[wheat walrus]

discord is stupid

[split mortar]

I am -1

[icy veldt]

I ❤️ being completely unforgiving! 💪😎

[wheat walrus]

Goodbye melon and cheese

[wanton pendant]

But then who will forgive you?

[split mortar]

Discord gonna believe i was born tomorrow damn

[icy veldt]

Not necessary

[wheat walrus]

I prefer apples and milk anyways

[split mortar]

What the fuck

[icy veldt]

Pilk

[thick slate]

pilk is not that bad

[icy veldt]

Wtf

[twilit aspen]

labubu pilk party

[wanton pendant]

Out.

[thick slate]

it tastes like a spider

or an ice cream float

whatever u guys call them

coke and ice cream

[icy veldt]

A spider?!

[wanton pendant]

Why are you eating spiders?

[twilit aspen]

im sorry you call them spiders

[pliant ruin]

also true

[thick slate]

australian term

[twilit aspen]

of course it is

[icy veldt]

Nuh uh

[thick slate]

yea good one haha

[wheat walrus]

opinions on 100% pure dark choc

[wanton pendant]

Oh, where they have Golden Gaytimes.

[thick slate]

anyway thats what they taste like

[icy veldt]

Australia can't be real if it does that!

[thick slate]

best ice cream oat

[twilit aspen]

dark chocolate is yuck

[split mortar]

Gaytimes?

[icy veldt]

Needs meth in it

[wheat walrus]

what abt 100% pure dark

[thick slate]

idk bout 100%

[icy veldt]

Tank chocolate

[wanton pendant]

Golden ones, even.

[pliant ruin]

everyone talks about australia spiders but nobody talks about the humble australian fiddler beetle

[twilit aspen]

i dont think ive ever had 100%

[icy veldt]

Panzerschokolade

[thick slate]

ur insane

[icy veldt]

Drop bears

[wheat walrus]

I'm fine w normal dark I like it but 100% pure dark was traumatizing it took me 3 minutes to get 1 bite in and I couldn't continue afterwards

[pliant ruin]

drop bears could probably exist in calamity mopd

new crags enemy

[twilit aspen]

im not a big chocolate person in general i eat like 1 hershey bar per year

[split mortar]

How far in progression does a unthinkably large swarm of 100 glutton bugs get in calamity

[wheat walrus]

molten car tire sauted in acid and uranium

[wanton pendant]

Not even funny, I watched a Drop Bear tear someone's face off once!

[pliant ruin]

can 100 raccoons beat eye of chtulhu do u think

i dont think they could

[wanton pendant]

So you don't eat chocolate ever?

[pliant ruin]

probably not

yeah

i think swarm of 100 glutton bugs would like get to EoC and die

[icy veldt]

100 lions vs Xeroc

The lions would win if they fought at night

[split mortar]

Desert scourge gets eaten down to the bone by a swarm of bugs

[pliant ruin]

theyre just bug racoons

[twilit aspen]

not really. theres this one chocolate ice cream ill get at the store if its on sale which i definitely eat more frequently but thats it

[wanton pendant]

Xeroc can make fake lions.

[pliant ruin]

relatively small fat thing that eats everything including garbage

literally just bug raccoons

[icy veldt]

But lions can't make a fake Xeroc? This is outrageous, it's unfair!

[wanton pendant]

It's the council's decision.

[magic epoch]

They can make a lion xeroc

Just like how the make all those lion ladders

[icy veldt]

Lions are just big cats, and Prov-- BLAM

[magic epoch]

what

[wanton pendant]

Reloads.

I got him.

[magic epoch]

what is providence

[icy veldt]

squirts blood out of neck

[pliant ruin]

dont ask

some things are best left unknown

[icy veldt]

[wanton pendant]

Left to rot.

[magic epoch]

nope

[wanton pendant]

Submerged in a castle of broken promises and false dreams.

[split mortar]

The goddess of ash

[twilit aspen]

whats stopping the terrarian from grabbing draedon out of his chair and beating the daylights out of him

[magic epoch]

Because that's not thereal draedon

Would do literally nothing, just like if you kill him at the end of the fight

[twilit aspen]

i guess that makes sense

[split mortar]

Its just a body of draedon
And you can kill hat body

[twilit aspen]

yall think we're ever gonna get info about the scientist who made draedon

[magic epoch]

I think it'll be nice to keep it as a mystery as it currently is

He was said to be super duper smart

[icy veldt]

I wonder what the lore items' text would look like if they were shoved into Google Translate over and over again

[split mortar]

Draedon may have been the scientist is a popular theory

[magic epoch]

Ye

[twilit aspen]

thatd be a great resource pack

[magic epoch]

But it's also possible it's just. a gyy

[twilit aspen]

yeah i really like the theory that it was some consciousness transfer shenanigans

[magic epoch]

Would have to be a mod

[twilit aspen]

aur

[magic epoch]

Resource packs for modder content sadly don't exist

😔

[twilit aspen]

thats unfortunate

[split mortar]

I doubt we will learn more cause not even draedon knows more

[magic epoch]

And draedon actually invented knowing

Nobody knew anything until draedon invented it

[wanton pendant]

Zayer: Now it is eternal boundary. The power you collect is better.
Dedicated, faith and faith in the truth ... From this point.
When you win, you will have all riding. The world gets you
Will you see the previous grass stars? How can you emphasize the stars where you see?
Fear, at least fear or respect.
This is the power to leave the dragon. The basic energy in the order.
We're very little now. If you don't like fighting me, I suspect you're coming to me.
When finished: there is the suspension of the Greve's grave.
I look forward to your problems.

[twilit aspen]

yharon?

[wanton pendant]

That's Cynosure translated like 10 times.

[twilit aspen]

shit i knew it was the last one i just forgot that it was cynosure

[wanton pendant]

"I look forward to your problems" is a crazy thing to say.

[icy veldt]

This is a glorious day.

These feats will forever be legendary. From now on, only wizards like Brel and I can match them.

Providence is perhaps one of the most evil gods, seeking to purify herself through destruction.

Her followers believe that life is meaningless. They believe that suffering is meaningless too.

This evil goddess has promised her followers that she will burn everything to the ground and end inequality.

Her followers are weak, but she is the mistress and ruler of one of the most powerful gods.

Perhaps it is her unpredictable nature that allows her to wield this power.

"She is the mistress and ruler of one of the most powerful gods." Uhhh, 😳?

[wanton pendant]

I did Cynosure again and got a better result;
Plansusach: now. Perfect force is awesome.
Weather and makeup, honestly and betrayed ... don't know.
Did you rent ashes? The country is already expected.
Don't see which team is left, what stars do you see?
Terrarium is not afraid or respected.
This is the largest authority. The power of regulatory framework - Skecif.
We are very small among us. If you do not have to tell me, you'll tell me I have to deny it.
When you do: Look at the lights on the top of Irare.
I'm waiting for your weight.

[split mortar]

Waiting for your weight

[icy veldt]

"I'm waiting for your weight." ??? Yharim's into fat people?!

[queen moon]

Dont say that about my cutie

[wanton pendant]

We are very small among us. What did Yharim mean by this?

[icy veldt]

Sus

[twilit aspen]

among us

[split mortar]

Amogus

[distant smelt]

Nah he’s waiting for the terrarian to become 100% muscle

[icy veldt]

100% muscle, 0% brain. I've already got one of those!

[wanton pendant]

Since the brain is a muscle, I feel you lack muscle.

[queen moon]

DAMN

[hoary cape]

Is that dron

[twilit aspen]

potaeton

[untold oracle]

Lea killed providence

Its canon

[pulsar ocean]

why didn't we politely ask xeroc how to do the ritual before killing yharon

[woeful hatch]

I mean, we didn't truly kill yharon, so we may still have a chance to do that

The problem is we gotta convince Xeroc to do that, and given Yharim's around the same power level as pre ascension Xeroc, and we're probably gonna kill yharim, I don't think he'll take the risk

Also we didn't know yharon would attack us

Or that we could talk with Xeroc with the terminus

[wanton pendant]

(I mean, you CAN use the Terminus before fighting Yharon.)

[queen moon]

Xerox?

[wanton pendant]

No, Xeroc.

Xerox make printers.

[queen moon]

No, like photocopy

[wanton pendant]

Oh yeah, that's what some Americans call printing.

[queen moon]

What ritual is he talking about?

[wanton pendant]

The ascension ritual.

[queen moon]

I am not american so

[queen moon]

Ohhh this makes sense

[wanton pendant]

Then I don't know why you called printing 'Xerox'.

[queen moon]

Thank you mr white

[wanton pendant]

Excuse me.

[warm gull]

you're welcome

[queen moon]

Because in my country is most commonly called xerox

[wanton pendant]

(Note to self; Avoid naming characters with names that are one letter off real companies.)

(I guess this means I can't use 'Gooble'.)

[queen moon]

Clever

[icy veldt]

What if the Terminus just contains prerecorded messages from Xeroc?

[woeful hatch]

He says he watched us, or at least glimpses of our journey

And he also remakes the bosses we fought with primordial light

[icy veldt]

Xeroc presses the button for Message A or B depending on how far we've come

[woeful hatch]

Yeah but how would he pre record stuff we've only done in the future

[pulsar ocean]

Imagine being yharon reviving 20 years later and everyone you knew is dead by the terrarian

[icy veldt]

Imagine being Yharon reviving a bunch of years later, and everyone at all is dead by the Terrarian

[wanton pendant]

*10.

[pulsar ocean]

How would you know

[wanton pendant]

I am Drake Dragon.

I created the Dragons.

It was difficult, to put the souls together.

[icy veldt]

Gods dammit

[fleet wedge]

[pulsar ocean]

Did something unfortunately went so wrong

[icy veldt]

Goober is fair game, at least

[wanton pendant]

Correct, and now I can't stop singing this stupid song.

It's been so long.

Since last I've seen my dragons lost to that monster.

The Xeroc behind the slaughter.

[icy veldt]

Dragons deserved it

In my humble opinion, of course

[wanton pendant]

That's racist.

[pulsar ocean]

The dragons were innocent

[icy veldt]

Correct!

[icy veldt]

Nah, I don't like them

[pulsar ocean]

The gods had it coming after they had slain the innocent dragons

[fleet wedge]

Well technically he only started it

[icy veldt]

t. Yharim

[fleet wedge]

[icy veldt]

Yharim liked dragons. Yharim was evil. Therefore, the dragons were evil. Q.E.D.

[wanton pendant]

False equivalence.

[icy veldt]

[pulsar ocean]

We were robbed of 35 different dragon bossfights in calamity mod

[wanton pendant]

Yharim drank water. Yharim was evil. Therefore, drinking water is evil.

[icy veldt]

opens Wikipedia page listing logical fallacies
"Uhhh, this one!"

[wanton pendant]

Ad hominem, probably.

[pulsar ocean]

Yharim hates lava because it burnt him
Yharim is evil
Hence, lava is good
We should all jump into an active volcano

[icy veldt]

Lava is good for Yharim

We should throw him into it again

[wanton pendant]

Last time he was thrown into lava, he got a dragon.

If we do it again, he'd get another one, obviously.

[icy veldt]

But now his dragon is dead (deserved!) No one's saving him now!

[pulsar ocean]

Not dead

[wanton pendant]

Secret Dragon:

Or rather, the Dragon of Secrets!

Survived due to being secret!

[icy veldt]

Dead for a bunch of years, until we kill it again

[wanton pendant]

He is dead, he just gets better.

[icy veldt]

Go to the Dragon's Aerie and deploy a bunch of automatic dragon-egg-smasher drones

[wanton pendant]

Would that reset his timer or actually just kill him?

[icy veldt]

Boom. Problem solved

It would kill it every time it reappears

[pulsar ocean]

If he didn't hatch he technically was never birthed to be rebirthed so he dies

[wanton pendant]

Do Auric Souls care about technicalities like that?

[fleet wedge]

Calm down there Draedon

[icy veldt]

Smash the Yharegg with a rock!

[pulsar ocean]

How would you know they don't

[icy veldt]

Then piss on the corpse

[wanton pendant]

I am Drake Dragon.

I made the Dragons.

[icy veldt]

Die

[wanton pendant]

It was difficult, to put the souls together.

[icy veldt]

Thou shalt perish

[wanton pendant]

I refuse.

[pulsar ocean]

what if yharim was able to stop time for 5 seconds

[wanton pendant]

Then the Terrarian would learn they actually have a very similar power.

[queen moon]

Im connecting the points ahh🥀

[icy veldt]

Yessss, join me in my reverse-Yharim morality!

[queen moon]

Everything is connected 💔🥀

Yharim is bad, and he liked filling bees holes, hence, filling bees holes is bad 🌹

Did i made it right?

[icy veldt]

Not exactly. It's just inverting Yharim's core belief of "dragons good, gods evil" into "gods good, dragons evil". It's not my genuine view, but I just appreciate its simple, elegant narrow-mindedness

[pulsar ocean]

does yharim know cqc

[icy veldt]

Well he has a giant sword, so probably

[wanton pendant]

Almost certainly.

[eager bluff]

why would he not

he is John Melee why would he not know cqc

[queen moon]

Who guys?

Xqc?

[icy veldt]

...what?

[queen moon]

I dont get it

[wanton pendant]

The thing gay people love.

Cqc means Close Quarters Combat.

[queen moon]

🥀

Tyrant Yharim's Uldihsword🥀

[icy veldt]

The Yharsword. The Yhord?

Yhaord?

[queen moon]

Swodin

Sworim

[icy veldt]

Sworima balls!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[queen moon]

Sugma?

I refuse making this unfunny joke

[icy veldt]

Yharim: "How about another joke, God of Dogma?"
God of Dogma: "No, I think we've had enough of your jokes."
Yharim: "What do you get when you cross a dragon-loving slave with a society that abandons him and treats him like trash?"
God of Dogma: "You, call the police!"
Yharim: "I'll tell you what you get! You get what you fuckin' deserve!"

[hoary cape]

We need to have a live action yharim vs every god

[wanton pendant]

With Chris Pratt as Yharim.

[hoary cape]

Who plays scal

Or dreadon lol

[wanton pendant]

Also Chriss Pratt.

[hoary cape]

Dog and yharon obviously need actors also

Chris Pratt plays scal

[wanton pendant]

Dwayne 'The Rock' Johnson is Xeroc.

[hoary cape]

Chris Pratt just plays everyone because they couldn't afford anyone else after paying him

[wanton pendant]

That's ALL the Patreon money.

[visual kiln]

helloo

[split mortar]

Hello

[wanton pendant]

Hello.

[twilit aspen]

um what would happen if you microwaved an auric soul for 2 minutes on high

[wanton pendant]

Hospital.

[icy veldt]

What about microwaving the Slime God on high for 99 minutes 99 seconds?

[long bloom]

plasma god

[abstract hollow]

why are they asking about microwacing things

[split mortar]

Why not

[long bloom]

lore relevant

[abstract hollow]

touch A

or whatever the italians say

[north root]

if you steal all of yharon's organs and then he dies and gets reborn

can you steal his organs again

and repeat

[long bloom]

yes

[north root]

ans solve world hunger

and thrist

[abstract hollow]

how thirst??

[north root]

drink

[wheat walrus]

Cos

[abstract hollow]

drink what?-

[twilit aspen]

idk if u were looking for a srs answer but id imagine his body prob turns to ash when he goes egg mode like a phoenix from myth

[north root]

but what if it's not connected to him

[abstract hollow]

so like shave bits and pieces off?

[twilit aspen]

yharon juices 😋

[north root]

take out his organs

[north root]

blod

[abstract hollow]

wait

our blood has iron in it\

[wanton pendant]

Do not juice the dragon.

[abstract hollow]

and dragons must have a bunch of blood

and if he's immortal

does that mean inf iron?

[tropic oak]

juice the dragon

[north root]

they only have 1 blood cell

[wanton pendant]

DO NOT!

[north root]

in total

[abstract hollow]

D:

[north root]

among all dragons

[abstract hollow]

fr?

[wanton pendant]

I mean, there's only the one.

Except secret moon dragon, of course!

[abstract hollow]

THE WHAT

[wanton pendant]

Did you think Xeroc worked alone?

[north root]

i'm going to choose to interpret this as affirming my theory

that yharon is the only dragon and he was just. lying about everything

[abstract hollow]

hey i got a question

what is ceaseless void?

[cloud ibex]

door

[abstract hollow]

wym door.

[tropic oak]

door

[abstract hollow]

can u be more specific.

[wanton pendant]

Door.

[long bloom]

it's the only stable portal to the distortion

[abstract hollow]

and whats the distortion

[long bloom]

undoubtedly made by noxus

[wanton pendant]

The shadow realm.

[long bloom]

dimension where dog and crew are from

[abstract hollow]

is that where yharim is hiding?

[wanton pendant]

No.

[abstract hollow]

do we know that?

[north root]

it's a realm full of dogs and other cute animals

[wanton pendant]

Yes.

[tropic oak]

yes

[long bloom]

he's in the dragon aerie

[tropic oak]

yharim in dragon aerie we’re gonna kick his ass

[long bloom]

he tells you this explicitly

[zenith geode]

yharim literally says to come get him in the aerie in cynosure iirc

[wanton pendant]

Yes.

[long bloom]

yeah

[abstract hollow]

oh.

[north root]

what does cynosure mean

[abstract hollow]

and you think i read that?

[wanton pendant]

A person or thing that is the centre of attention or admiration.

[north root]

cool

[long bloom]

[zenith geode]

i suppose yharim was the cynosure for a while

[wanton pendant]

He used Follow Me.

[split mortar]

Eat a door

[wanton pendant]

Of a gingerbread house?

[split mortar]

No

An actual wooden door

[wanton pendant]

Aw.

[abstract hollow]

"eat your chair" -Filbus

[icy veldt]

No, eat a metal door

[split mortar]

I have wanted to do this earlier today

[steep hamlet]

what rogue stealth weapon should I use against dog? im having a hard time deciding which one has the most dps

oh wrong channel

[split mortar]

Lol

[wanton pendant]

I mean, in the lore, stealth didn't work all that well when DoG was around.

[honest obsidian]

did you say dog

as in devourer of gods

[north root]

so wait braelor is still canonically stuck in the distortion

[split mortar]

Yes

[north root]

lol what a loser

[long bloom]

his boyfriend abandoned him leave him alone

[north root]

so draedon doesn't know about xeroc?

[split mortar]

Nope

[young socket]

correct

[split mortar]

Only yharim and yharon presumably do (for people who are alive rn)

Oh and jared ig

[tall delta]

tbh we dont know if the terrarian knows or not about the ritual, and i think its better to leave it ambiguous for now

the auric soul would be locked post yharim anyways since it teleports to the aerie

[long bloom]

(they don't)

[long bloom]

the aerie will be pre yharim

you have to go there to fight him

[tall delta]

but yharim definetly would not let you get closer to his soul

[split mortar]

You wont ascend ingame because it would be affected by characterisation which the terrarian is left blank on intentionally

[tall delta]

do you like

stop using 80% of the game itens because of your character lore

[long bloom]

???

[split mortar]

??

Ascension is seperate to using an item

[tall delta]

yall need to think about the hype moments and aura

[split mortar]

Ngl i dont see ascending to godhood as that

[pliant ruin]

I mean idk about that

[long bloom]

how much you mutate during an ascension is based on some unknown aspect of your characterization

[pliant ruin]

because its still

ur choice lol

U can say that for

literally anything

the player does

[long bloom]

buh

[pliant ruin]

But i still think we shouldn't ascend because of many other reasons

And i mean we won't

But i heavily disagree with the reasoning melon gave

[young socket]

yharim literally says yharon will rebirth

he wont be saying that if we took his soul

[long bloom]

?

[young socket]

actually he wouldnt be saying anything hed be fucking auric springlocked

[pliant ruin]

not what the convo is abt tsuki

[split mortar]

Tsuki

Go bed

[leaden bridge]

the player actually ascends in hotog theyre just so goated the auric souls r a weak stat boost in comparison

[young socket]

u go bed

[split mortar]

I tried and got woken up by one of my younger siblings shouting and being pissed off for some reason

[young socket]

kill em

[long bloom]

classic

[young socket]

i mean

knock em unconscious

permanently

[tall delta]

can you tell me them cheze

[north root]

why shouldn't we ascend

i think yharon deserves it

[leaden bridge]

its so funny you dont learn how ascension works through the entire thing though

like it's kind of a big deal and you just can't get that info

[split mortar]

Sadly yharim happened to the main group of people with that info

[leaden bridge]

its also kinda awkward cuz like

imagine youre a baby calamity player and you spent the entire game seeing yharim talk abotu how people that kill dragons r god bad and you kill a dragon and nothing changes

[pliant ruin]

Well for one i don't think there's literally any way you could make the gameplay changes from ascending live up to what it's supposed to be
A small stat change like WOTG just would Not be good
Not to mention that Ascencion factors in one's own personality and ideals when it comes to deciding their domain which is not something you can really do with a blank slate character

[north root]

xeroc: "yeah so you just kinda like... eat it. just like chomp chomp chomp- don't chew it though. definitely don't chew it. knew a girl once who chewed it, didn't turn out well for them"

[leaden bridge]

theres like very fair reasons for it and itd be doubly weird if you could ascend but its like

[pliant ruin]

As in the process itself or

[leaden bridge]

its a very real case of gameplay really not servicing the narrative at all

[split mortar]

Cheese using my point as her last reasoning despite saying she disagrees

[pliant ruin]

No bro

[young socket]

i dont get how not knowing the specifics of ascension is funny at all

[pliant ruin]

our points are entirely separate

[north root]

i disagree with the blank slate part but like

from a gameplay perspective it's impossible

[split mortar]

it is the case the terrarian is intentionally a blank slate as possible

[leaden bridge]

as in anything, all you get to know is that guy absorbs soul becomes powerful

[north root]

and it would sort of force a player to choose to become a god to progress

[leaden bridge]

currently you don't even get to really like know there's a distinction between xeroc and silva and the rest of the gods

[north root]

which is too forced even for me

[pliant ruin]

I guess that is all you can really look at ingame

Don't think things like how domains work are really described ingame currently

[leaden bridge]

at all

but like thats not super important wed say

[split mortar]

Cheese i re read my argument and i dont fucking know what you on about we both said about ascending being affected by characteristics and the terrarian lack those intentionally

[north root]

looking at the lore items you don't even know what an imperfect ascension is

or you're never told

[pliant ruin]

I mean that'll definitely be explained eventually i think knowing atleast the general idea of how domains work is important

Specially the perfect ascencion distinction

[split mortar]

Sorry if this seems aggressive btw that aint intentional

[north root]

UNLESS we do what we should've done from the beginning and followed CCR's example

[pliant ruin]

unfortunately lore implementation is like not real right now

[long bloom]

sso save us

[north root]

so basically. in ccr there's this item

[split mortar]

Hey stip

[leaden bridge]

its really a case where narrative and gameplay really drift apart and its kinda sour

[long bloom]

stip save us

[north root]

that lets you design your own cryogen construct

and we could just do that for ascending

that would work probably

[pliant ruin]

I mean yeah but i'm not too worried about it

[long bloom]

would be very clunky with how ascension works

[north root]

it would be super immersion breaking but it would work

[pliant ruin]

The mod's currnet lore implementation is like. 1 actually decently well designed thing and the rest are just remnants of 500 years past

[long bloom]

true

[jaunty wraith]

Funny thought: the terraria could kill all the way up the exo mechs and scal and just... stop there, not confront yharim

[north root]

maybe the auric soul whatever drops from secret boss xeroc and it's a postgame haha item so you don't have to care

[long bloom]

the terraria

[leaden bridge]

like narratively you'd think the game is building up to yharon's defeat being like, meaningful because all yharim talks about is how killing dragons is a sin because of gods
but no it's not at all u just get the soul fragments
And there's obviously multiple barriers that make it impossible beyond the obvious but like its kind awkward

[pliant ruin]

deltarune mod that makes it so instead of learning tenna's backstory and having his characterization hinted at throughout chapter 3 you instead learn none of it until you defeat him and get a item in your iventory talking about it

[north root]

edging yharim simunlator

[split mortar]

The real reason we wont be able to ascend ingame is cause it requires a 3D structure and the terrarian cant build that

Holy fuck the chat fast

[leaden bridge]

imagine you never talk here and your only view of the lore is whats ingame

[pliant ruin]

I mean yeah

Ingame lore implementation is bad

Nobody's unaware of this i don't think

[jaunty wraith]

Don't underestimate modders

[leaden bridge]

we mean this specific thing wont change at all

[jaunty wraith]

They've done some crazy shit

[leaden bridge]

so its not relevant to what we're saying

we think

[pliant ruin]

Nah i think it can very well change

[split mortar]

Addons arent canonical to calamity

[leaden bridge]

how would it though

[north root]

if yharim hates xeroc so much then why does he want to talk through a rock

[pliant ruin]

Making good buildup to Yharon and making the aftermath feel impactful is very doable imo

[north root]

checkmate crusaders

[leaden bridge]

your main source of information will always be yharim and yharim's dialogue is what builds that up

[pliant ruin]

no lol ?

Yharim is just A source of information

[honest obsidian]

yo that's so real, my terrarian is lemon goku

[long bloom]

stip has been typing for too long i'm scared

[north root]

you could make it more obvious that yharon doesn't actually die i think

[pliant ruin]

He's the one directly talking to you and all but that dosen't mean you can't build things up in other ways
World events, other characters, cutscenes

[leaden bridge]

wed argue he's the main one because his loredumps r tied inherently to progression

[pliant ruin]

yeah because

thats all the mod has right now

[long bloom]

he does die, just not permanently

[north root]

yeah but you could make that more clear

[split mortar]

Yharon does die the fucker vaporises his own corpse

[long bloom]

yharim explicitly tells you

[leaden bridge]

you can give amidias five hours of dialogue and most people can just not talk to him ever while most people will always kinda see the lore items or whatever they get replaced with because they're given on boss defeats

[pliant ruin]

it's either yharim manifesting items in your inventory or talking with draedon and reading his diary

[pliant ruin]

not really

[cosmic zenith]

In an ideal scenario, I personally would show how/why the ascension ritual is being your reach rather than having it be an achievable thing

I think the awkwardness stems from a gap in worldbuilding where it would connect to gameplay, you just fill the gap with intuition (which, currently, leads you to think that killing Yharon would ascend you)

Let's remember that the ascension ritual isn't talked about ingame rn so it's realistically an even bigger gap

[pliant ruin]

given that lore tiems are being killed

lmao

And what's replacing them is something you'll have to Get

[leaden bridge]

also even though you can indeed build up other things in other places yharim's current dialogue definitely still builds up to like, you ascending or being given the option to, except that obviously doesn't happen for obvious reasons

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah because it's not like Amidias has Quests related to the world riiiight

Yharim is absolutely not meant to be an unrivaled primary source, and it being so would be a severe fault in our storytelling

[leaden bridge]

we know more than one person has come here curious if they were or not a god after defeating yharon
we're not relaly critcizing anything either atp we're like just stating a thing

[north root]

a large amount of people straight up avoid reading those because it feels very forced and plus they take up valuable inventory space

[long bloom]

stip pleas explain how ascension actually works so ppl can stop speculating /hj

[split mortar]

Stip please dont we already know enough

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah
And I explained why

And my perspective on how that could be fixed

[north root]

i feel like that's up to interpretation

[leaden bridge]

wdk

yharim's pretty explicit about the kill dragon become god thing

and since ascension isn't explained in any meaningful way it's very hard to like, Know if he means Literally

[long bloom]

he says you have to consume the soul

[north root]

i mean it also states pretty clearly that you have to consume an auric soul

and you very clearly don't do that

[long bloom]

^

[north root]

and also that dragons can die normally

[split mortar]

The health item that uses auric soul shards and increases your max health

[cosmic zenith]

That's... exactly the gap
Yes, Yharim explains that killing a Dragon allows you to achieve godhood, but he doesn't cover important details like needing a ritual or said ritual being lost to time

[north root]

that's a whole different thing

[leaden bridge]

you're given soul fragments we think most people would just assume there's a disconnect in yharim saying consume and the game being terraria lore integration

[cosmic zenith]

He shouldn't cover those things

Worldbuilding should

[pliant ruin]

I mean i'd say it's. pretty clear. about you have to Kill A Dragon to Become A God.

[split mortar]

Still consuming item with auric soul shards

Not out the question it could lead someone to believe eating it means godhood

[leaden bridge]

yeah and then you do that and that doesn't happen

[pliant ruin]

I have never seen anyone take that in any way except literally in my life, even with the mod's current lacking lore implementation

[leaden bridge]

we saw a person here literally ask

this was not too long ago either

so we think the confusion is definitely a thing that can happen

[north root]

that's pretty easily fixed by just changing the crafting recipe

then

[split mortar]

True

[cosmic zenith]

I think you're not understanding our point Ender

[pliant ruin]

Idk what you're trying to say because i've seen some confusing regarding ascencion yeah but i've never seen anyone confused at whether it's literal or not

[split mortar]

But still rn is potentially a source of confusion

[pliant ruin]

It is yeah

[leaden bridge]

no we did understand your point we just dont have anything else to say about that

[cosmic zenith]

Thank you for clarifying, because you just keep repeating yourself :p

[young socket]

uhh some people think hornet is void, so i think team cherry failed in explaining their lore

[north root]

i think what we could do is make it a bit more clear that yharon is a special case given how he is the dragon of rebirth

[pliant ruin]

Yeah that definitely could be something done

[north root]

it is important to remember that some people will always just not know the lore

[pliant ruin]

I mean i figure

[young socket]

yea

[pliant ruin]

the fact the Aerie is going to be added evnetually

[young socket]

this

exact situation

[pliant ruin]

might be a good awy to help with that

[young socket]

is the same thing

[pliant ruin]

Cutscene with Yharim near Yharon's egg or something

[north root]

in the aerie would be a good time to have a bunch of exposition pedestals or something

[leaden bridge]

well we think the difference is that that's misconception born out of ignoring ingame material while this would be a misconception born out of not knowing material that isn't in game ye t

[young socket]

yharim literally says the soul needs to be entirely consumed

which

doesnt happen with yharon !!!!!

[pliant ruin]

I do think it can be explained better

But also

We Know Bro

[north root]

why do we call them yharon soul fragments

[pliant ruin]

Like. Everyone's aware of the several issues with the lore implementation.

[north root]

why can't they just be yharic fragments

[long bloom]

the lore shouldn't have to cater to the people that just don't read

[pliant ruin]

People have repeated these same things several times

[young socket]

theyre yharons soul fragments

[split mortar]

Cause they are fragments of yharons soul

[north root]

that would fix everything

yharic fragments

[pliant ruin]

Now i think this statement is missing the point

Lore that just tells itself through writing is

Not exactly Good most of the time

Not to say yo ucan't expose through writing

But good implementation does more than that

[north root]

i think we should let the lore be vague until the dragons aerie

[leaden bridge]

this is true can the lore writers remove all the content next update and just drop 50 Sunken Sea Scrolls

[north root]

that helps with the buildup

[pliant ruin]

"The lore" is very vague tbf

But the Dragon Aerie could be a nice place to drop some exposition on a few things

[north root]

yeah keep it vague

[leaden bridge]

the lore is ireally not very vague

we mean,

[pliant ruin]

I meant

[young socket]

no new lore until yharim update

[pliant ruin]

"The lore" as in The Statement

[young socket]

where its suddenly everything

[leaden bridge]

well we guess if youre an active user here

[pliant ruin]

Ok better wording

[long bloom]

i'm not against environmental storytelling, that's not what i was saying, i mean beating things over people's heads to help the lowest common denominator is bad

[pliant ruin]

"The lore" is too generalizing given this mod's lore has alot of facets and saying that "The lore should be kept vague" is very vague a statement in of itself

[pliant ruin]

Yeah i agree

But in this case

[leaden bridge]

we mean this is the kind of it depends statement

[pliant ruin]

I fully agree that the mod dosen't explain things as well as it could in vary cases

[north root]

there should be a bunch of dragon tombstones that give exposition about how ascedning works

[pliant ruin]

That is a valid critique to have

[long bloom]

ig yeah

[pliant ruin]

The problem c omes with

[leaden bridge]

like in the abstract if many people dont know what the writing is saying then thats kind of a problem

[north root]

obviously i mean lore as in the specific lore we are talking about

with asecndison

[pliant ruin]

repeating the same complaints over and over when everyone's obviously aware of them and the mod is actively being updated

[north root]

come back in 2771 after the yharim update and then we can talk

[long bloom]

true

[leaden bridge]

wed say it overexplains some things actually
Well we guess itd be better to like talk about this in a case per case basis

[north root]

why does anahita let siiva bully her out of being in her own abyss when she's literally dead

worst elemental oat

[leaden bridge]

right now we can't think of anything that wed say is explained less than it should be that wouldn't just be an ingame integration thing

[north root]

we should put more lore in the descriptions of boss item drops

[long bloom]

good news

[north root]

it's always fun when i see that

[long bloom]

legendary items get tooltip lore in sso

like so

(it's press shift to read like lore items)

[north root]

this is so interesting

unfortunately this will not fit on the screen of my steam deck so i will continue to use this channel forever

[long bloom]

lol

[spare pier]

Not all of them, but a good few yeah

[north root]

wait what classifies as a legendary item

[spare pier]

Being real?

[split mortar]

Wait what does this mean
A different plague bee has been targetted to become the main host? (Its late brain melted)

[spare pier]

Whatever the fuck we say it does

Lmao

[long bloom]

most 10% drops from bosses

[young socket]

old ass classification that some people r still using now

[spare pier]

There is a list on the Wiki under removed content

[long bloom]

ask mad, she wrote it

[split mortar]

Hey mad

[spare pier]

But some items might be added to the list as time goes on

[young socket]

its weird and honestly i want whenever next update to come out for people to make new classifications for the 10% drops

[north root]

oh its from malice mode

[split mortar]

Whar

[north root]

malice mode is relevant to the lore again yippee

[young socket]

https://calamitymod.wiki.gg/wiki/Legendary_items

[spare pier]

It's PBG's thoughts after being broken free

[split mortar]

Legendary items predate malice no?

[split mortar]

Ah ok thanks

[long bloom]

yeah with rare item variants

[pliant ruin]

Tbh idk how i feel about that tooltip

[young socket]

as 1% drops

[north root]

i think we should bring back malice mode as like lorekeeper mode or something

[pliant ruin]

I feel like the usageo f things like

[long bloom]

it's the new name for legdeath on gfb

[split mortar]

Its the ftw/gfb name for death like legendary is to master

[north root]

that's fun

[pliant ruin]

Error 0x000ITF80
Unified frequency band and lead satellite units
t-2200

Just like random example here

Bugt i feel like

alot of this extra fluff

is just unecessary

like i GET why its here

but i think it just

makes it unecessarily harder to understand

ANd dosne't really

add anything besides making it Feel more "techy" i guess

[north root]

i mean the pbg doesn't have that much unexplained lore

[pliant ruin]

It's not rly about it being unexplained

[spare pier]

It's meant to be a showcase into how PBG operates and I think it adds to its identity

[leaden bridge]

we don't think difficulty modes and lore nerds overlap

[north root]

if you want the lore you should be dedicated

[long bloom]

i don't have a problem with the tooltip tbh

[split mortar]

The canon difficulty is rev exoert

[pliant ruin]

I don't see how tbh?
Like i feel like it'd accomplish the same without all this extra fluff and be less intimidating/confusing to the reader. Because ultimately i think ppl will focus too hard on what these specifics mean even if the're not meant to be important or explained and are just extra fluff

[leaden bridge]

the canon difficulty is every boss is normal mode crabulon

[north root]

intended difficulty and canon difficulty are not necessarily the same thing

[long bloom]

true

[leaden bridge]

it literally doesn't matter difficulties aren't canon

[split mortar]

It is in calamitys case

[spare pier]

The item is, by all means, purposefully styled to be a peep into PBG's mind. This is how this thing operates, this is how it thinks, it's not necessarily trying to convey information as much as it is just... that

[pliant ruin]

Yeah but you ahve to consider regardless of what it's meant to be

[north root]

what do you even mean by canon difficulty

[pliant ruin]

It's still lore for the player to read

And again i think it accomplishes the same

Without the extra fluff

While being less confusing

[long bloom]

i feel like you're reading into this too much

[pliant ruin]

not really

i'm not reading into anything

[split mortar]

The only like difference is how fucked bloodmoons are since death has much higher spawnrates then rev iirc

[pliant ruin]

I'm just criticizing the way the writing is being handled here because i think it's a bit odd

[north root]

i feel like it could be a bit shorter while accomplishing the same purpose but at the same time it still works

[pliant ruin]

Is it a big deal? Not really

But it dosen't mean i can't give feedback

[pliant ruin]

Yeah basically

I think the extra fluff is unecessary and personally i'd remove it but

It's fine

[north root]

blood moons are described as leaving you knee-deep in corpses so death might actually be closer to canon...

[split mortar]

Id say the spawnrates for bloodmoons is decently high enough that by the end if gores didnt despawn you would indeed be knee deep in rev

[long bloom]

that reminds me
devs please add a way to have death bloodmoons without having to play master

[split mortar]

Zerg

[long bloom]

post slimegod

[spare pier]

I don't believe it is confusing, personally. I also believe the "fluff" is necessary to convey the intention behind the text and that sometimes, things can't be perfect in writing without detracting from "the point". Essentially, I prefer fully delivering the intention instead of having optimal writing

[north root]

it's not confusing it's just kinda long

[long bloom]

computer code is long yes

[north root]

that might be because don't like how pbg talks though

[spare pier]

It's probably the shortest Legendary Item ngl

It's just long because it's written like code

[north root]

none of these will fit on my screen ever, got it

[leaden bridge]

That's not code ://////

[young socket]

no shes saying its short, but seems longer due to having multiple new lines

[spare pier]

Ok

[leaden bridge]

not even really the standard log format either but like not relevant

[spare pier]

Ok

Anyways

[young socket]

oh no this thing isnt perfectly accurate

[north root]

can we make the EoW lore item not just him talking about how he doesn't like that the EoW is called the EoW

[spare pier]

But it's not that

[long bloom]

i mean
there's no eow lore lol

it's just a worm

[spare pier]

EoW item is Yharim doing a blanket deflection of any criticism of him you might encounter

[split mortar]

Its a big worm formed in the corruption

[north root]

(the solution is obviously to remove the EoW)

[long bloom]

ture

[leaden bridge]

u don't got to be weird about it it's just not code it's a log like it's not about degree of accuracy they're just different thing what

[split mortar]

Eat sand

[split mortar]

Sounded like you were complaining

[north root]

i think we should have more people criticize yharim then, like town npcs

[spare pier]

"Calling this thing an 'Eater of Worlds' is an immense hyperbole, just like how you'll probably hear about me being a genocidal. I wasn't I just killed bad people"

[north root]

ok that makes sense

[young socket]

OHHH IM SO SORRY HERE LET ME CORRECT MYSELF

[north root]

the dryad should call yharim names methinks

[young socket]

oh no this person wasnt using the correct terminology

[spare pier]

I want to have that, but you know, it's gotta be equal

I want to have some that think he was alright

[split mortar]

Tsuki its 2 am

[young socket]

i know

[scarlet axle]

the passive agressiveness is really unecessary

[long bloom]

tax collector would be a yharim sympathizer

[north root]

make the princess say he's suprisingly polite or something

[spare pier]

Of course he would

Tax Collector is probably the single most beneffited person by Yharim

[north root]

steampunker should also be more of a draedon hater

[spare pier]

Princess is a very unique case

[mighty zenith]

princess and yharim tea parties

[pliant ruin]

That's fair enough
I still personally disagree as the extra bits really don't add much to me but i can see where you're coming from

It's not really a big deal as i said so i think it's fair to just

disagree on this one

[young socket]

princess being forced to learn the

fucking

i forgot wat its called

POLITICS

[north root]

DoG is too much of an arrogant bastard even for the princess

[spare pier]

The best way I can put it is

I want Princess to be Haru Urara

[young socket]

politics of yharims crusade and is told not to openly support any gods cuz she will be the reason her country gets nuked

[long bloom]

who

[spare pier]

Just a beaming ray of sunshine in the gloom that is the world after the Crusade

[north root]

horse

[long bloom]

from that horse anime?

[north root]

from the horse anime yes

[long bloom]

oki

[young socket]

the horse anime thats from the horse game???

[north root]

the horses oooh i love the hosrses the horses mamn the frieaking horsers

[twilit aspen]

fly high haru urara

gone 2 soon 🕊️

[dusk laurel]

youre right for this

[wanton pendant]

Oh, the horse girl. I've heard of that. Everyone can't stop gambling!

[wanton pendant]

What.

[cosmic zenith]

God what have I walked into

[split mortar]

Idk

[wanton pendant]

Horses, I think?

[real glen]

I uh

What

[twilit aspen]

Uma Musume: Pretty Girl Derby ~~!

[real glen]

[twilit aspen]

if yharim had to go to college what major do you think hed pick

[wanton pendant]

Military History.

[twilit aspen]

his hyperfixating ass

why is anahita called anahita while the rest of the elementals are just "___ elemental"

[wanton pendant]

So, simple answer, I don't know WHY, although the Elemental used to have a different name.

Anahita is just the name of a really old Iranian goddess.

I don't know WHY they chose that, but they did.

Anahita used to have a different design and name, but I believe the spriter left the mod and took the design with them for another project, requiring a new design to be made.

[thick slate]

a better design got made

[twilit aspen]

wikipedia says anahita is the iranian goddess of water so totally

the same way azafure is similar to the spanish word for sulfur

can the leviathan and anahita communicate with each other

maybe leviathan just wanted a name to call her by

[wanton pendant]

Probably.

Anahita is able to summon (and potentially create) Leviathan at will.

[twilit aspen]

so are there any other Leviathans like as a species or his he just a single creation

[wanton pendant]

We don't know, since again, it's unclear if Leviathan is summoned or created by Anahita.

"A gargantuan marine reptile that lurks the ocean depths along with the Water Elemental, Anahita. It is unknown if she is the last of her kind, or was simply manifested into existence like her master."

This is from the bestiary, which is omniscient.

[cosmic zenith]

Dunno if it was a spriter, but yes

[twilit aspen]

wait leviathan is a girl

[cosmic zenith]

The old Siren was ported to a mod called Tides of Aether if I'm not mistaken

[twilit aspen]

girlbosses of the seas

[wanton pendant]

That's interesting.

Haven't heard about it before.

[twilit aspen]

the last line of leviathans bestiary entry kind of implies she’s the last one though, right? either option, her being the last of her kind or her being summoned by Anahita, still mean she’s the only Leviathan

[wanton pendant]

Well, either she's the last of her kind, or Anahita created her, thus making her the only of her kind to presently exist.

[twilit aspen]

i see yeah i worded it wrong

but either way it’s one singular leviathan just whether it’s the last one or the only one

[wanton pendant]

Yes.

Anahita survives the fight, technically, but Leviathan's dead. Assuming it's a construct, she can probably be recreated anyway.

[twilit aspen]

how do we know anahita survives?

[wanton pendant]

Water Elemental.

[twilit aspen]

i’m assuming that i’m supposed to know that elementals are immortal or something

[split mortar]

Yeah elementals just dont die

You would have to destroy every single bit of water on the planet to kill anahita

[feral skiff]

are there elementals for everything? earth, air, water, fire..

[wanton pendant]

Yeah, can't be killed without destroying their element.

[split mortar]

Yes

[wanton pendant]

Earth, Air, Water, Fire, Life.

[real glen]

Brimming

[feral skiff]

so what we see ingame is only a small portion of the elementals right?

cause theres a lot of elements

[split mortar]

Earth is sand
Water is anahita
Fire is brimmy
Air is cloud
Nature is silva

[split mortar]

Yeah sand and cloud split into a lot of pieces

Anahita seemingly does so as well but to a lesser extent iirc

[wanton pendant]

Everything with 'Elemental' in the name are one of those five, except Chaos Elementals, which are a secret other thing.

(We have no idea.)

[real glen]

Bro this guy

[split mortar]

Chaos elementals will be known once sso is out

[split mortar]

Thats fake

[wanton pendant]

A fake.

[twilit aspen]

imagine the sand elemental splitting herself up to 1 elemental per grain of sand on terraria

[wanton pendant]

Probably not the greatest plan.