#lore-discussion

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north root
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i can't fucking count i'm a calamity fan

leaden bridge
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The 22 + 25 was literally LYING on the table

north root
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one of them. missed.

hoary cape
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I revived sunkenzie

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Checkmate

north root
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i mean it's realistic for people to miss you have to account for that

hoary cape
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Well revived is stretching it

north root
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thank you camel

hoary cape
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They are walking around again, but well I didn't learn my lesson from the ravager incident

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It's not pronounced like camel

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It's khamule

north root
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sorry

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thank you camule

hoary cape
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😭

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As a lord of the rings fan this is making me die slowly

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Anyway I will let it slide

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For now

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Khamƻl is one of the 9 nazgƻls

prime mauve
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thank you king k. rool

long bloom
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one of the 10 nashgoons, got it

hoary cape
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Nashgoons 😭

plucky juniper
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I'm going to screenshot this so that 3 years later i'll post this with zero context and horrify everyone involved

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I'd say it's lore relevant because it is deliberately said in game to be flammable. and also apparently tasty, implying it's edible

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the only thing it can actually be eaten for is, interestingly, the lesser healing potion.

pulsar ocean
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In 3 years sso will drop and everyone will be discussing gorthus

long bloom
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true

plucky juniper
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given its used for torchs, it suggests that slimes would probably be reasonably common targets for hunting by civilizations

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this could imply something funny about how the Slime God himself could be perceived

frosty charm
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what npc should i make sell food to the protags
no i'm not using permafrost and delicious meat i'd rather die

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obvious choice is tavernkeep (i had the idea for him to be a generla barkeep/alcohol guy in the story instead of just selling ale and the crystal stuff) or maybe the merchant

pliant ruin
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i mean

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making food is a skill alot of people have

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u dont need to think too hard about it i dont think

frosty charm
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yea i'm just tryna think of a good vendor to introduce

pliant ruin
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you can just have a random cook minor character that helps out in a bar or just have the protags learn it themselves or have the tavernkeep do it idk

frosty charm
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i'll prob just have the tavernkeep do it since i plan to have a scene there later anyways

frosty charm
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is provi still associated with the sun

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or just general fire

long bloom
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no sun for her

frosty charm
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damn im gonna have to rename that chapter then

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uuunfortunate

long bloom
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that's xeroc's house now

frosty charm
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makes sense

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would a comparison with a star make sense
i probably shouldn't overthink this so hard but i'm trying to name the chapters relavently to something that happens

long bloom
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stars are pure mana

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and are different from the sun

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the sun is a ball of primordial light

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not a star

frosty charm
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yeah i'm aware that the sun is xeroc's thing

long bloom
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the sun and regular stars have no relation

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other than "bright thing in space"

frosty charm
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like the old name for provis chapter was sundown (yknow big fire ball getting taken down ha)

long bloom
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sundowner mod?

frosty charm
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naurr

long bloom
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you could try a name around the concept of angels and demons

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bc provi is kinda representative of both

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angelic and demonic

frosty charm
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could do yea

thick slate
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is there only one star star

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like sun star

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did xeroc make the sun

long bloom
thick slate
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in the universe?

long bloom
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and the sun was presumably there before even zeratros

long bloom
thick slate
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does terraria just not have physics or smth

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or gravity

long bloom
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the sun orbits the planet

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in cal lore

thick slate
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does it generate heat

long bloom
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yeah

thick slate
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how

long bloom
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there wouldn't be life if it didn't

long bloom
thick slate
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is it a magic spotlight

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or an actual fusion star

long bloom
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everything we know about the calamity sun:
• it is made of primordial light, not mana. meaning it is not a star.
• it orbits terraria instead of the other way around
• it's less hot than the lava of the brimstone crags
• it existed before the world soul shattered (given how dragons were alive then)
• post world soul shattering, it's controlled by the current wielder of primordial light

thick slate
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nothingburger sun

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ok

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its also cold

long bloom
thick slate
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u said colder than the brimstone lava

long bloom
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from this we can assume it's also much closer to the planet

long bloom
thick slate
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how hot

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cuz it like has things living in it

long bloom
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a little above 4,400° celsius*
*not 4,000

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so almost as hot as the irl sun surface

thick slate
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how be there rocks

long bloom
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idk

thick slate
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rock melt

long bloom
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it's terraria

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there's magic

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you can create infinite energy

thick slate
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hell is made of magic rock

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what makes the lava so hot

long bloom
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i also dk

thick slate
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cuz like its gotta be magically
hotter

long bloom
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brimmy maybe?

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that's just conjecture though

twilit aspen
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did the brimstone crags exist before azafure or was it a product of azafures industrialization

thick slate
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i will find every plot hole

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saying "its magic" is bad writing

long bloom
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wait i misremembered something

twilit aspen
long bloom
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crags lava is hotter than 4,400° c

thick slate
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ok

twilit aspen
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what if there was a dude who lived there and his name was brimstone craig

long bloom
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peak

thick slate
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and he had a

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list of sorts

jaunty wraith
twilit aspen
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is Xeroc’s Primordial Light and the Primordial Wyrm referring to the same primordial

thick slate
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primordial just means really old

long bloom
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i would imagine no

thick slate
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like from the beginning old

twilit aspen
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word

long bloom
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like "the first"

wheat walrus
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yharin labubu

twilit aspen
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yharim would totally have a secret labubu collection

wheat walrus
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now ull never know if i meant to spell yharon or yharim

long bloom
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i will contact the moderators

twilit aspen
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draedon would DEFINITELY have a secret labubu collection with an excel sheet of like every single labubu for sale in the universe

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wait he’s a robot maybe he’s not much for collecting

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he’d fw sciencebubus and technologybubus

long bloom
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literally the only thing he cares about is sciencing

twilit aspen
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so i guess the only remaining question is who in the roster is the most dubai chocolate labubu coded

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demographically it’s gotta be calamitas right

long bloom
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seriously stop

thick slate
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no

twilit aspen
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just thinking out loud

calm patio
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or

thick slate
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yharim is 6 letters

calm patio
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keep it to yourself

thick slate
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draedon is 7 letters

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67?

twilit aspen
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6 7 in calamity ???

pulsar ocean
zenith geode
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dog probably wanted em

twilit aspen
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dog wanted to aura farm

long bloom
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"yeah those gemstones will totally make me go faster add them"

zenith geode
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they likely have little to no effect on the armour's effectiveness

thick slate
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astral labubu

twilit aspen
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lmfao

wheat walrus
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god of labubus

cloud ibex
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Can we not do this

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Please

thick slate
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sigh

wheat walrus
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rip

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what the labubus do tho

twilit aspen
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it’s lore relevant i swear

cloud ibex
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I’m gonna throw rocks at you

wheat walrus
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from what i knew they're js odd-looking plushies

thick slate
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guess ill go have my offtopic convo in cmt

cloud ibex
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No

wheat walrus
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run taylor

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ill have mine in challenge runs

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esoteric offtopic convo

cloud ibex
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ā˜¹ļø

wheat walrus
twilit aspen
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yharim is lowkey a huge fraud imagine if he got reverse isekai’d into our world he’d be so lost

pulsar ocean
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Yharim looks like a stand user

zenith geode
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asking people about the gods and getting so many conflicting answers

twilit aspen
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the stand user could be anyone

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the stand user in question:

zenith geode
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he IS the stand

thick slate
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"where is god"
"heaven"
"wheres that"
"afterlife"
"what"

twilit aspen
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how physically strong would he be in the real world like could someone run him over with a car and he’d be fine

thick slate
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yea

zenith geode
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the car would probably be totaled

thick slate
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i think he could like stop a truck

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no problem

zenith geode
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he's able to go toe to toe with gods

thick slate
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puny gods tbf

twilit aspen
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hes like 6’8ā€ and probably 2000 pounds

thick slate
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strongest one loses to a meteor

zenith geode
thick slate
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no shot hes 2000 pounds

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with armor?

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maybe

zenith geode
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weight is entirely unknown

twilit aspen
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yeah i was including armor

thick slate
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hes getting fat in the aerie

pulsar ocean
zenith geode
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armour's probably not too heavy considering you have the temu version of his and it increases your running speed

twilit aspen
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very true

long bloom
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i'd imagine there's a partial exoskeleton to enhance your movements

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under the armor

jaunty wraith
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Also didn't draedon make yharims enhanced armor?

thick slate
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but its really strong right

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so itd be dense

thick slate
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so itd heavy

zenith geode
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shoutout typos

long bloom
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exo, as in outside you

pulsar ocean
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Would draedon have a better shot at conquering the world than ultron

jaunty wraith
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Draedon also made armor for the DoG which i beleice was described the be light and flexible, so he has experience with it

thick slate
twilit aspen
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i feel like there could also be reasoning that it wouldn’t be dense in order to not prevent the flow of electricity through it

long bloom
pulsar ocean
twilit aspen
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the duality

zenith geode
thick slate
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marvel doodads are a lot stronger than calamity doodads

zenith geode
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but does ultron have the plague

long bloom
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draedon is infinitely more competent

thick slate
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ultron gets one infinity stone and its wraps

zenith geode
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which one

thick slate
thick slate
long bloom
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soul clueless

twilit aspen
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ultron is literally just evil grok right he’s just an ai hooked up to the internet that decided humans suck

thick slate
thick slate
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but that doesnt mean he isnt smart

twilit aspen
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he had a point

thick slate
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he knows literally everything we do and more

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also mcu ultron is stupid

twilit aspen
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what if ultron and draedon had a brain off

thick slate
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idiot stupid ruined his character

thick slate
zenith geode
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i think draedon could more effectively conquer the world

thick slate
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conquer maybe

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destroy no

pulsar ocean
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What if draedon got the infinity stones

thick slate
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i think they could both destroy everything

thick slate
zenith geode
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tbf what else would you do

thick slate
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play with them

twilit aspen
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how advanced is the most advanced civilization in lore? like we know draedon had some crazy tech but presumably he kept it to himself, what were the regular ppl working with

thick slate
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stick

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rock

twilit aspen
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i know azafure went industrial

long bloom
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some ppl have medieval axes, some people have laser guns

zenith geode
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some people have magic axes that are as strong as laser guns

twilit aspen
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who the hell has laser guns r u talking about the martians

thick slate
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draedon tech he passed down to yharmy

zenith geode
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yharmy had laser guns

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like a lot of laser guns

twilit aspen
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ohhh bequeathed unto them

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i remember now

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The Arsenal.

long bloom
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or someone that found an abandoned laser gun

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on the ground

zenith geode
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how effective was the phaseslayer for the yharmy

long bloom
thick slate
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without draedrae everything is magic and like early 20th century

twilit aspen
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what about wulfrum i thought draedon didn’t have anything to do with wulfrum stuff

thick slate
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oh fair

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forgot about that

zenith geode
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uhhhh

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is there any lasers there

twilit aspen
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that’s like some third party that we don’t really know about right

thick slate
zenith geode
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oh right the supercharged hovercraft

thick slate
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also power core guy

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generates an energy field

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or smth

zenith geode
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the magic weapon is magic so thats ruled out

long bloom
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rover drive is laser adjacent i think

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holo shield

thick slate
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wulfrum to me feels more like constructs

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magical constructs

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steam punk with a magical energy core

twilit aspen
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i could see wulfrum tech being like a ā€˜magic-metal’ age of tech, where they’re transferring from magic adjacent technology to a more industrialized technology

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is there any lore behind the lilies of finality summon

zenith geode
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crossover/reference items are non canon

twilit aspen
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oh i didn’t know it was one of those

zenith geode
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yeah it would open up a tanker of worms if they were canon

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like how the hell would you explain ooa

timber bough
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wires is canonical to calamity because calamity is objectively a copy of fargo because i'm fargo's spy

twilit aspen
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which calamity character would have the worst diet if they were totally responsible for it

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dog does not count

zenith geode
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probably calamitas

twilit aspen
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i feel like permafrost would eat exclusively microwave dinners and see nothing wrong with it

twilit aspen
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he thinks they’re better because they come frozen

timber bough
zenith geode
twilit aspen
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yharon would absolutely LOVE hibachi imagine seeing his face light up when the chef does the big flame ā¤ļø

pulsar ocean
zenith geode
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if youve never had an MRE, keep it that way

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they fucking suck

wheat walrus
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gng im ignorant here what's an MRE in this context

zenith geode
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meal ready to eat

twilit aspen
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meal ready to eat i assume

wheat walrus
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oo

timber bough
wheat walrus
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yea they kinda

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meh

pulsar ocean
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Every person in the yharmy got cardboard and sticks in their MREs

twilit aspen
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my sister said they got m&ms in their mres in the marines

timber bough
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candies for energy

twilit aspen
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very true

timber bough
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car

twilit aspen
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about 80 years ago they tried giving soldiers a different type of candy to give them energy

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i don’t think it ended too well

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our 2 pfps are like 2 cats having a conversation

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both leaning very close to their phone

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is the sea king chill personality wise i feel like i don’t know much about him

twilit aspen
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is this referencing something

timber bough
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he sells delicious meat

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that's it

zenith geode
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does a chef cook his own meals?

pulsar ocean
zenith geode
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no

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the last thing you want to do when you get home after a day of cooking food is cook more food

twilit aspen
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she’s not wrong there

timber bough
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bandit probably coveted shits from food stalls or whatever

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moss enjoyer as well

twilit aspen
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what if all yharim needed was good food, good friends, and good laughs ā¤ļø

timber bough
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and more propagandas to smear gods

twilit aspen
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good propaganda, good genocide, and good war crimes ā¤ļø

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wait so if yharons egg goes to the dragon aerie when he dies and rebirths how did the dogma cult get it to try and make yharim become god king

pulsar ocean
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And you can cook it

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And you're hungry

twilit aspen
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honestly what’s stopping him from cooking up one more delicious meat before he closes up shop for the night and takes it home for dindin

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is there any calamity specific lore to the mushroom people or are they just the same as vanilla terraria

twilit aspen
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could you maybe be able to help include me into those who know

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what if instead of the starfury it was called the starhappy how would that impact the lore

pulsar ocean
twilit aspen
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probably in a very major way if i had to throw out a guess

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ohhh my goddddd dude imagine lebron in calamity

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space jam 3

pulsar ocean
twilit aspen
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legendary 1 on 1

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yharim is probably like as tall as the hoop

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do sports exist in calamity like would i blow draedons mind if i showed him a basketball

pastel gazelle
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well, golf definitely exists

twilit aspen
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that’s true i forgot about the golfer

pastel gazelle
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unclear on other sports (I searched the terraria wiki for basketball, got no results, and it's too late at night for me to do any further research)

twilit aspen
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wait how canon is the golfer bc he can give you a golf cart which doesn’t really seem to fit in line with the the average technology level in lore

pastel gazelle
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in what possible way is a golf cart less advanced than a flying wulfrum drone?

twilit aspen
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you make a great point

pastel gazelle
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er. I meant "more advanced", because it is less advanced. I am tired.

twilit aspen
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yeah i got what u meant

honest obsidian
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so, here's a random thought

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how many bosses can realistically fit into the "i'm putting you out of your misery" category

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i'm fairly convinced that me blowing up clone calamitas is an act of mercy

twilit aspen
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astrum deus is definitely one

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sick little space worm

honest obsidian
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i think crabulon counts in a sense, considering it's a crab who wants to go back home and a mushroom parasite thing controlling it

twilit aspen
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maybe signus as it’s using stasis’ body, but we don’t really know if that actually saves stasis by us defeating signus

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crabulon is a good one

pastel gazelle
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I'm still not sure of crabulon lore, such as it is. Like... is the crab dead, and just being controlled by the fungus? Is it a cordyceps situation where the still-living crab is being controlled? Is it mutualistic?

honest obsidian
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ooh, maybe poltergeist counts?

twilit aspen
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that’s the geometry dash level

honest obsidian
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my understanding is that it's a bunch of souls merged together or something, blowing that up probably frees them

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also i know it isn't a boss but literally everything in the brimstone area probably

twilit aspen
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yeah the lore item for polterghast literally says it’s wallowing in sorrow and screaming in madness we r definitely putting it out of its misery

honest obsidian
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i can't read lore items on a controller so my actual understanding on things is a little shaky haha

twilit aspen
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fair enough

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i think the wiki has all the lore items on a single page if you just wanna look there

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plaguebringer goliath is probably being put out of its misery

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mind controlling robotic plague doesn’t sound too pleasant

honest obsidian
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dear lord i forgot about mecha queen bee

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it was just such a nothing fight lol

long bloom
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it's just the shrooms left

honest obsidian
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does cryogen count as a kill? i think it's more just a weird prison break

long bloom
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cryogen is just an animated spell

honest obsidian
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the ice isn't really alive and the big chill himself walks and talks just fine once the boss is beaten

long bloom
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like cv

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it's not actually conscious

honest obsidian
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oh right, the ravager exists

long bloom
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yeah that's a "mercy and also you're an asshole" kill

honest obsidian
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well nothing has changed in that regard then

twilit aspen
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i kinda see ravager as like there’s not really anything left to save

honest obsidian
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now i'm wondering if the old duke or leviathan count

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both of them lost their home

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but one moved and the other seems to have adapted pretty well

twilit aspen
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what’s the lore of the old duke is he literally just an old duke fishron

honest obsidian
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i think so lol

twilit aspen
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wait is duke like a title or a name or what

honest obsidian
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it's an english thing i think

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...which makes the old duke british, this is totally a mercy kill lmao

twilit aspen
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LMFAO

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piss off ye little twat stay out me ocean

long bloom
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born just after the last shard of the world soul was taken

twilit aspen
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wait what is the world soul again and who took it

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it was there before everything and it shattered

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i know that

long bloom
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it shattered and dragons took the pieces to give themselves auric souls

twilit aspen
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okay i figured it was the dragons

long bloom
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allegedly

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anyway old duke is effectively being replaced by a draconic post polter sulphur sea boss that doesn't suck

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at some point

twilit aspen
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ooooh

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call me crazy for this but the duke is one of my least favorite fights in vanilla so that’s exciting to me

long bloom
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not duke fishron

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duke fishron will remain unchanged

twilit aspen
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yeah i know but duke + old duke is basically 2 duke fights so after the update we’ll only have 1 duke fight

long bloom
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true

twilit aspen
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do you guys think yharim is a cold shower type of guy or a hot shower type of guy

woeful hatch
twilit aspen
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so true it brings back bad memories and kinda makes him want to start a crusade against showers

woeful hatch
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He probably likes showers more than baths anyways

twilit aspen
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now do you think yharim listens to music in the shower or does he raw dog it in silence

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i could see see silence but i could also see him just listening to his own theme on repeat bc he thinks he’s so awesome and fire litty sauce

icy veldt
twilit aspen
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do you think if draedon existed in the real world he’d use linkedin

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actually better question what do you guys think draedon thinks about music

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does he think it’s useless garbage bc it’s not science

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or can he like actually appreciate the arts

split mortar
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Knowing how to make music is a knowledge so yeah think so

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Draedon can prob make pretty good music

wanton pendant
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Draedon's a science guy, he probably knows how to do a lot. What he can't do is feel empathy.

twilit aspen
wheat walrus
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brong

split mortar
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Hey omni

distant smelt
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Calamity game theory it’s all a dream and the terrarian’s in a coma and yharim represents the terrarian’s abusive father

pulsar ocean
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Why didn't yharim hide a lava charm in his buttocks

wheat walrus
wheat walrus
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Springyharim

distant smelt
wheat walrus
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Get IN spark user

distant smelt
wheat walrus
queen moon
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Is the terrarian capable of absorbing any auric soul and survive? I mean, yharim did so...

wheat walrus
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Yharim did not absorb an auric soul

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He's just attuned with Yharon

queen moon
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My bad, wrong lore interpretation

wheat walrus
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As for what happens when you absorb one, you don't die you become a god (think of Providence, who absorbed the dragon of flames' auric soul)

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Though, we don't know how to absorb an auric soul ourselves, so we won't

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But if we did, we should become gods, not die

split mortar
wheat walrus
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Love u melon

queen moon
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Thank you twin

wheat walrus
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Gonna buy an actual melon and give it a nerf gun just to hug it

split mortar
wheat walrus
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By dev statements, multiple auric souls can kill

split mortar
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Or become polterghast but piss

wheat walrus
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Making you lose your sense of self and burst

split mortar
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Ya

wanton pendant
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So long as you don't do, like, three, then yeah, you can absorb an auric soul. Too bad you don't know how!

split mortar
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Sadly yharon is the only auric soul left and he explicitly is much more of a pain to get

wanton pendant
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So if you wanna be a god, go poaching in the Dragon's Aerie. Be warned, the security there is tight.

queen moon
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I still dont understand what is the aerie

wanton pendant
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It's a special place for the dragons.

twilit aspen
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so if yharons egg goes up to the aerie when he’s rebirthing, how did dogma get the egg in order to try and make yharim god king

wanton pendant
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Some kind of other place, not physically accessible from Terraria, you can't just explore and walk into it.

queen moon
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It's a different plane from reality?

wanton pendant
split mortar
wanton pendant
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It could be a pocket dimension or something.

split mortar
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So its not accessible by just looking around yet yharim and yharon can just casually go there

wanton pendant
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And presumably so could other dragons and at least one person aligned with Dogma.

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How it's accessed is unknown.

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Along with most other details about it.

twilit aspen
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so before the crusade, only the dragons and dogma/dogmas accomplice (at the very minimum) knew how to get to the dragon aerie. after the crusade, yharim and yharon are now the only ones who know how to get to the aerie

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they killed everyone else who knew how to get there

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or in the dragons case they were killed anyways

wanton pendant
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Most likely.

split mortar
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Yeah seems the case

fleet wedge
wanton pendant
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Otherwise, Draedon would have figured it out.

wanton pendant
split mortar
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^

split mortar
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Ima go explode now

wanton pendant
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Oh, I guess Xeroc would probably know, given the whole monk, friend with dragons thing.

queen moon
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Giving that he is also a god

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Probably

wanton pendant
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I'd assume most gods wouldn't have known.

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Since it's probably supposed to be a secret of the dragons.

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And the gods and dragons are different groups.

fleet wedge
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Yeah but how will we be able to find it then?

twilit aspen
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my guess is yharim is just gonna tell us when he’s ready to fight us

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pull up let’s throw hands

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do you guys think draedon would be the type of guy to post his wordle in the general chat every day

split mortar
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Draedon would play factorio

twilit aspen
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he’d go fucking crazy for automation factory type games

wanton pendant
twilit aspen
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if yharim was in our world and he had to get a job what do you think his job field of choice would be

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Serious answers only.

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i feel like he’d want to be a physical therapist.

wanton pendant
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Motivational speaker.

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And terrorist.

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Beekeeping as a hobby.

icy veldt
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Angry politician or maybe a warlord or some shit

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Or maybe he'd just be a political Twitch streamer

wanton pendant
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He'd be a tame British bloke.

wanton pendant
fleet wedge
icy veldt
twilit aspen
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is there any calamity specific lore to the mushroom ppl

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are they tied to the same fungus taking over crabulon

wanton pendant
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No.

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Truffle is just there.

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Maybe SSO will give him lore.

twilit aspen
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oh so he’s a unique creature, not part of a larger species?

wanton pendant
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Like, he's probably the same kind of mushroom.

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But not hijacking anyone, he's just like that.

twilit aspen
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so he just grew out of the ground one day like hey guys šŸ™‹ā€ā™‚ļø

wanton pendant
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If it weren't for you kidnapping and eating his kids, there'd be more.

twilit aspen
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i only eat the orange ones his kids usually just get thrown in the trash

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don’t assume i’m some kind of monster, jesus

wanton pendant
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Human, I remember you're shroomite.

twilit aspen
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oh wait that’s right we do compress his children into bars of biometal

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wait

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HES the one that sells us the machine to do it!!

wanton pendant
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He didn't think you would do that.

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It's probably meant for making compost.

twilit aspen
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oh really he’s probably horrified with the player

wanton pendant
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YOI WERE DOING IT IN FRONT OF HIM!?

twilit aspen
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ā€œhere, now you should be able to farm herbs a bit faster, for your brewing!! wait what are you doing wait put my child down wait no wait noā€

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obviously

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you make the surface mushroom biome and stick the mushroom guy and his auto hammer there

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if you don’t put his auto hammer at his house you never visit him again and he dies alone

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or at least i do

queen moon
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Whos the guy talking with us on the boss rush dialogs? At the beginning i thought it was xeroc, but now i think is yharim, even though probably isnt.

twilit aspen
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it is xeroc!

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(he’s old as fuck)

zenith geode
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yeah its xeroc

queen moon
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I can finally die in peace

wanton pendant
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Rest in pieces.

queen moon
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So he was mortal?

wanton pendant
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Yeah.

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Became a god.

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The strongest god.

queen moon
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Man, this lore has layers of complexity that my brain isn't capable of processing

twilit aspen
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that’s what’s good about it

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once you start picking those layers apart

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it’s like lasagna

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the best lasagna you’ve ever had

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layer after delicious layer

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speaking of layers when does the sulfurous sea end and the abyss start

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is it just when all the rocks in the middle stop and it’s empty

wanton pendant
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When you stop getting the sulphuric poisoning effect.

twilit aspen
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well presumably in lore the abyss and sulfurous sea are like a full sized sea right it’s not a 2d world in canon

wanton pendant
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The sulphurous sea we see in game is only the coastline.

split mortar
twilit aspen
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i see i see

wanton pendant
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The abyss is unnaturally deep for its location, but in-game is likely far shallower than the lore.

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Since in-game, it's actually only comparable to the regular sea floor in real life in a large world.

twilit aspen
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yeah i feel like a lore accurate abyss you’d be descending for like 10+ minutes before hitting the floor

queen moon
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Its when you start seeing the gray-ish sulphuric sand-like block

wanton pendant
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If we put it at like, Mariana Trench level, that's probably more "lore accurate" than in-game.

split mortar
queen moon
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Then after that you see planty mush

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Is really deep

wanton pendant
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Putting Hell in the mid crust I believe someone mentioned.

twilit aspen
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do we think there’s anything under hell or just magma and rock

split mortar
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Unless the abyss is like a hundred kilo deep then yeah hell is in crust

wanton pendant
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Then the mantle.

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And the core of the planet.

split mortar
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Chat what if the aerie is in the worlds core

zenith geode
wanton pendant
zenith geode
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with iron boots, it'd take 8:55 to reach the bottom of challenger deep

split mortar
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Oh lol

queen moon
zenith geode
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unfortunately for humanity, you can't go 46mph downwards

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and even if you could, there's a pretty noticable weakest link there

twilit aspen
zenith geode
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even with perfect gear, you're limited by the human body's ability to pressurise

split mortar
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Aerie has connection to world soul (presumably resided in said world)
Draedon has explored the entire surface and hasnt found it

queen moon
wanton pendant
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Underground is hard to explore deeper in.

zenith geode
split mortar
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I cast gay beam

zenith geode
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water is notable for being pretty heavy

wanton pendant
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Rude.

twilit aspen
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can they add the bends to the abyss

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if you magic mirror out it’s instant death

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you explode

wanton pendant
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Devs, add that.

zenith geode
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infernum abyss

twilit aspen
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or implode whatever happens

zenith geode
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its pretty bendy i guess

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the basecal abyss islands really get in your way

twilit aspen
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holy shit that abyss is massive

wanton pendant
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If you drilled a hole into the side at the bottom of the abyss, you would die horribly and painfully.

twilit aspen
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is that the infernum abyss

zenith geode
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yeah

split mortar
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Yeah

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Infernum abyss cool

zenith geode
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layer 4 is a boss arena

twilit aspen
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okay that’s what i thought

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yeah i love the infernum structures

woeful hatch
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Real

split mortar
wanton pendant
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How far do you need to go to not be in the way?

twilit aspen
split mortar
wanton pendant
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I think it would take a bit more.

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Unless you want to become a milkshake.

split mortar
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Step to the side twice

queen moon
split mortar
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Just dont make too big a hole

wanton pendant
split mortar
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Why

wanton pendant
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Because less space to get sucked into.

split mortar
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Oh i thought you were on about doing it from the outside

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Not inside the abyss

queen moon
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And the terrarian can support temperatures of +1000c°

split mortar
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Terrarian can stand right next to like 4600celsius magma without issue

twilit aspen
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presumably if you poked like a penny sized hole into the side of the bottom of the abyss i feel like water would shoot out so fast it instantly boils from the kinetic energy

zenith geode
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there was an xkcd video on this kinda thing

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specifically niagara falls through a straw

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its still a lot of water through a tiny hole

twilit aspen
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that guy rules

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learning is awesome

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draedonpilled

split mortar
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Is draedon a sand eater

twilit aspen
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maybe if he was really hungry and everywhere was closed because it was late

queen moon
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Imagine if the songs that we hear like the biomes ones, bosses, etc could be heard by everyone including the terrarian?

icy veldt
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Does Calamitas hate sand?

wanton pendant
queen moon
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It just echoes throughout the world

wanton pendant
zenith geode
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i'd think niagara falls has a higher throughput than a theoretical abyss hole would

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and it could be squeezed into a 10 meter pipe

queen moon
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What was the name of the ocean kingdom that calamitas destroyed?

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I forgor

zenith geode
#

ilmeris

twilit aspen
#

ilmeris

icy veldt
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Ilmeris

split mortar
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Ilmeris

split mortar
twilit aspen
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jinx!

wanton pendant
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Ilmeris.

icy veldt
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Fugg

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I imagine Ilmerid would be synonymous with Ilmerian, but also a more archaic word

queen moon
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If calamitas evaporated ilmeris, doesnt that means that she probably made glass from melting the silica on the sand?

wanton pendant
split mortar
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She could have

wanton pendant
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Sand Elemental ground it all back up into sand.

queen moon
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And isnt ilmeris the desert?

wanton pendant
woeful hatch
split mortar
zenith geode
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true she was probably holding back most of the time because it took several weeks

icy veldt
wanton pendant
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I keep hearing conflicting numbers about how long it took.

split mortar
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Most of the underground desert used to be sunken sea

wanton pendant
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From a few days to a few months.

queen moon
split mortar
woeful hatch
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Do you all know about the leidenfrost effect? I assume if she heated the water TOO hard, the steam would have prevented more water from rushing in to be evaporated either

So a lower temperature could save energy AND prevent that from happening

split mortar
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Until sso out we wont have much concrete stuff

wanton pendant
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Days is more hype moments and aura (and is easier on the timeline).

zenith geode
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a few days would be impressive even for draedon

split mortar
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Prob best to listen to reb since most recent and she handling ilmeris a lot iirc

split mortar
twilit aspen
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wait how did calamitas get underneath the desert in the first place to start her incineration of ilmeris

wanton pendant
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We should make them fight over it.

twilit aspen
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did she just

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dig

split mortar
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Ilmeris was a kingdom theres prob routes she coulda gone in

twilit aspen
#

true

wanton pendant
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She had to show her passport and her business; terrorism.

woeful hatch
icy veldt
wanton pendant
split mortar
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Top was desert

twilit aspen
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dude imagine your city getting incinerated then on top of that some asshole covers everything in sand

icy veldt
#

Huh, weird

wanton pendant
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Sand Elemental saw an opportunity.

queen moon
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If she boiled the ocean there probably was a massive downpour after

wanton pendant
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Or a sea, technically.

twilit aspen
#

aquifer

queen moon
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Or at the same time

wanton pendant
#

Yeah, that's what it was.

icy veldt
#

Sunken Aquifer Overhaul

twilit aspen
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so did draedon build the ss lab after ilmeris šŸ”„šŸ”„šŸ”„ event

wanton pendant
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Yes.

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When else?

zenith geode
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i wonder where the lab's gonna be placed come sso1

wanton pendant
twilit aspen
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i was just making sure bc he also talks about how he has the largest sea prism crystal which he was studying for miracle matter or whatever he was doing

wanton pendant
#

No, it was for Exo Prims.

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Not Miracle Matter.

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Exo Prims are used to make Miracle Matter.

zenith geode
#

miracle matter came about from massive overexertion during the exos fight, with you making an actually stable form

twilit aspen
#

oh wait yeah miracle matter is just used for our weapons right

zenith geode
#

yeah

queen moon
#

Yes

wanton pendant
#

Yes, and the Exo Mechs create it as a byproduct.

zenith geode
#

miracle matter is basically a molten slurry of exo prism

twilit aspen
#

yummy

zenith geode
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you're able to shove some other stuff in to make it not immediately start decaying or boiling or whatever

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exo prisms themselves are pretty much just souped up sea prisms

twilit aspen
#

i be walkin around terraria with my handbag of miracle matter

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(imagine it’s yellow and glowing instead of coffee)

wanton pendant
#

Miracle Matter is green.

queen moon
wanton pendant
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And orange.

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It's also a Kirby Boss.

wanton pendant
twilit aspen
#

this god is pissing me off….

I am the original Yharim

queen moon
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-Yharim, The original one

twilit aspen
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my name is draedon

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i made the exos

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it was difficult to put the pieces together

queen moon
#

-Draedon

twilit aspen
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is there a single reason (a straw that broke the camels back) as to why braelor and stasis attempted to kill yharim

wanton pendant
#

And they threw their bestie into the abyss.

twilit aspen
#

what did i misspell

queen moon
#

Statis

twilit aspen
#

oops stasis

wanton pendant
#

General grammatical errors. And Statis.

queen moon
twilit aspen
#

but hadn’t the crusades been going on for a good while before it was attempted

wanton pendant
#

105 years.

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And it's Crusade, singular.

twilit aspen
twilit aspen
#

do we know anything about shakidou other than their name and domain

woeful hatch
wanton pendant
#

Otherwise it would be on that document.

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I heard he was really strong.

twilit aspen
#

god of emptiness sounds so cool i really hope we learn about them

wanton pendant
#

I mean, as he's a named character we probably will.

twilit aspen
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isn’t one of the things from wrath of the gods something of emptiness

#

avatar of emptiness

wanton pendant
#

No.

wanton pendant
#

That's Avatar of Emptiness.

twilit aspen
#

ohhh yeah i was conflating the 2

wanton pendant
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Unrelated.

zenith geode
#

avatar of emptiness is something completely different

queen moon
#

But i think its not going to be related

zenith geode
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wotg lore is unrelated to basecal

twilit aspen
#

yeah i know that

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calamity au where they’re all one big happy family together + yharim is a well adjusted normal person

wanton pendant
#

Yharim is racist.

queen moon
#

šŸ„€āœŒļø

queen moon
#

This is a sitcom

twilit aspen
#

it’s the family dog and everyone loves to feed it scraps from the table

#

exactly

wanton pendant
#

The main plot is just Calamitas going through some horrific ordeal every episode.

zenith geode
#

the adopted dog thats kinda like early stewie

timber bough
#

my mind has been making correlations between the new ravager and william birkin

#

why

wanton pendant
#

The Resident Evil guy?

queen moon
#

The main plot is that Calamitas is a teenager and cant control her emotions

twilit aspen
#

which calamity character would be a big shot

timber bough
wanton pendant
twilit aspen
#

i feel like the tax collector would want to be a big shot

timber bough
#

john resident evil

queen moon
#

John, the evil resident

queen moon
wanton pendant
#

'Stand back Ashley, this Resident's getting Evil!' -JFK.

twilit aspen
#

if you could add one calamity character to smash who r u picking

timber bough
#

i literally named my sentries only character mrjfk

wanton pendant
#

Calamitas.

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Or Yharim.

timber bough
#

calamitas...?

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but not really

twilit aspen
#

that’s the big dudes who jump around in the profaned hallow and hell right?

queen moon
#

Cannonball jellyfish

zenith geode
#

for a more serious answer, pre ascension providence

timber bough
icy veldt
#

Gabriel Angelos XD

twilit aspen
#

i think my answer is draedon, i feel like they could do cool stuff with his moveset where he uses parts from the exos

queen moon
#

For a more serious answer, Silva.

icy veldt
twilit aspen
#

honestly the terrarian in smash would be so fire

zenith geode
queen moon
#

No, better yet, i think yharim

zenith geode
#

yharim is too obvious

timber bough
#

sorry yharim is busy kissing mutant

queen moon
#

Imagine casting a big ass dragon

#

Or maybe the terrarian

wanton pendant
#

Calamitas!

icy veldt
#

CalClone in Smash

queen moon
#

But any wulfrum could be cool too, imagine making a giant robot made from different wulfrum types

timber bough
#

imma take bandit

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because

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no one chose them

icy veldt
#

Wait I just remembered a question I had

twilit aspen
#

steak attacks would be a super cool gimmick for a smash character

icy veldt
#

How did Calamitas get that scar on her face?

wanton pendant
wanton pendant
icy veldt
#

Aw

twilit aspen
#

i’d add brimstone craig to smash i think that’s my final answer

timber bough
#

craig

icy veldt
#

If Steve were from Azafure would that make him BrimSteve?

fleet wedge
fleet wedge
woeful hatch
wanton pendant
#

Permafrost is her dad, though!

#

Yharim can be weird uncle.

#

Draedon is the magical computer who causes wacky things to happen.

#

DoG is evil dog.

#

Yharon is good dog.

twilit aspen
#

sea king would definitely be the wacky uncle

leaden bridge
#

calamitas is the best smash pick

#

shes literally been the face of the mod for ages

twilit aspen
#

can i share my yharim headcanon with you guys

pulsar ocean
#

No

twilit aspen
#

okay

pulsar ocean
#

good

timber bough
#

meow

twilit aspen
#

meow

wanton pendant
twilit aspen
#

yharim is just a bit cheeked up. like nothing crazy, he’s not packing an insanely huge dumpy or anything but it’s definitely bigger than normal and people can lowkey tell and they’re like ā€œyharim is a really good leader and all but does he do squats or something??ā€

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someone saying something yesterday about how yharim should’ve been clenching a lava charm in his buttcheeks when he was cast into lava is that gave me this idea

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also which calamity character would like i gotta feeling by the black eyed peas the most and who would like it the least

wanton pendant
#

What did I just read.

twilit aspen
#

he’s lowkey self conscious about it and sometimes he thinks people are staring at his rear end so he like adjusts his cape a bit to try and cover it up

fleet wedge
wanton pendant
#

It's not.

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Nor has it been for years.

icy veldt
fleet wedge
icy veldt
#

Yeah, they're more like enlightening elaborations of objective, universal truth

fleet wedge
fleet wedge
fleet wedge
wanton pendant
#

Beadle.

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You know.

#

Beadle.

fleet wedge
#

John Calamity? BrimFace

twilit aspen
#

brian of cthulu

fleet wedge
queen moon
fleet wedge
icy veldt
#

What if Providence is actually the Vulgar Goddess and she just uses a lot of impolite words?

twilit aspen
#

profane goddess

#

profane is a synonym for explicit right

icy veldt
#

Or that. That works better tbh

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The Propane Goddess

wanton pendant
#

Profanity means swearing.

icy veldt
#

She would NEVER use charcoal to burn the world!

icy veldt
twilit aspen
#

devs if she was the profane goddess

icy veldt
#

I just went with "vulgar" to avoid anyone thinking it was just a typo

fleet wedge
wanton pendant
twilit aspen
#

providence is always trying to farm jester awards on steam forums

icy veldt
wanton pendant
#

No.

icy veldt
#

The Propane Goddess (Hank Hill deity???)

twilit aspen
#

what if instead of doing anything the terrarian just showed up, did a sick backflip, and left

zenith geode
icy veldt
#

Dragon of Charcoal

fleet wedge
icy veldt
#

Worst ascension ever! (Opposite of a perfect ascension)

twilit aspen
#

there should be a term for that

#

a critical fail ascension

wanton pendant
#

It's called being a failure.

#

Do you think Slime God is peak performance?

twilit aspen
#

i mean take one look at em you tell me bub

icy veldt
#

Slime God is just ugly

wanton pendant
#

Mean.

twilit aspen
#

thats a really hurtful thing to say

wanton pendant
#

We never say that about you!

twilit aspen
#

imagine if the slime god said that in a discord behind your back

#

yeah gods have feelings too pal

icy veldt
icy veldt
wanton pendant
#

Wow, cyberbully, much?

twilit aspen
#

do we know who writes the bestiary entries or is it just an all knowing anonymous independent third party

twilit aspen
#

word

grave sandal
magic epoch
#

yeah no embeds

honest obsidian
#

ah that's a shame

#

to counter this, i am going to ask a very important question

#

how far does king dedede get in calamity

magic epoch
#

king dedede likely solos all of calamity

#

considering his strength is relative to Kirby's

#

who is stupid

wanton pendant
#

King Dedede wins.

#

But he's a good guy.

#

I trust Dedede to do the right thing.

honest obsidian
magic epoch
#

... is he???

wanton pendant
#

Yeah.

honest obsidian
#

dedede is theoretically a good guy

wanton pendant
#

He hasn't been a villain in decades.

honest obsidian
#

not of his own volition anyway

wanton pendant
#

He was the one keeping Nightmare sealed.

#

Meta Knight once staged a coup, and he's not evil.

honest obsidian
#

meta knight just wanted dream land to not be lazy

#

dedede has willingly been a villain like one time

wanton pendant
#

And that was because he was hungry.

#

So he taxed people a bunch.

honest obsidian
#

but he got defeated and found jesus and now he's a good guy

wanton pendant
#

And then Kirby beat him up.

honest obsidian
#

yeah now he gets possessed every few weeks

wanton pendant
#

In the latest game he sacrifices himself to save a Waddle Dee, and survives because he's King Dedede.

honest obsidian
#

literally a single little guy

#

to us, replaceable cannon fodder

magic epoch
#

I'm not a Kirby fan I don't know the specifics like that

#

šŸ˜”

honest obsidian
#

to him, a loyal subject

wanton pendant
#

Exactly.

honest obsidian
#

if i stop being pink i will forget everything

#

this is a scary existence

wanton pendant
#

Again, King Dedede seized the Star Rod because he was worried it would be misused to unleash Nightmare.

#

Not because he was evil, to prevent it's use.

#

Kirby misunderstood and unleashed Nightmare.

#

Even as Dedede begged him not to.

thorn drift
#

triple D would beat yharim to a pulp

wanton pendant
#

Unfair comparison.

#

Dedede could beat Xeroc.

icy veldt
thorn drift
wanton pendant
#

Not probably.

thorn drift
#

Oh yeah no he could ur right

wanton pendant
#

He's gonna clobber that there Xeroc.

thorn drift
#

I mean considering he can clobber a meteor thousands of light years away in a couple seconds

#

yes

wanton pendant
#

If Dedede was there when the Moon Lord invaded, it would have been a massacre, but not for the dragons.

thorn drift
#

actually how high does prime fovos scale

wanton pendant
#

Second strongest.

#

Still weaker than the combined might of the dragons.

#

But it's ALL of them, unless, I don't know, a couple couldn't be bothered or died too quickly to help.

#

Moon Lord can destroy worlds, it probably killed the Martians before reaching Terraria.

twilit aspen
#

are the dragons we know about currently the only dragons to exist or were there more of them

pliant ruin
#

there were way more

thick slate
#

atleast 2

pliant ruin
#

it was like a whole ass society/civilization so knowing every dragon that ever existed would be pretty muhc impossible

split mortar
#

Theoretically up to 3K auric dragons

pliant ruin
#

we have like uhh

#

wheres da list...

twilit aspen
#

so were there theoretically up to 3k gods at the end of the draconic era

#

oh well some gods would ascend multiple times right

split mortar
#

3K - 1

zenith geode
#

a bunch of the dragons died against fovos though

split mortar
split mortar
twilit aspen
#

wait who were the ones who did multiple

#

didn’t providence

wanton pendant
#

Assuming every dragon made a god, sans Yharon, then yeah a bit under 3k.

split mortar
#

Providence ate only flame

wanton pendant
#

Providence has one soul.

twilit aspen
#

oh oopsies

pliant ruin
#

no gods taht we know of ascended twice

thick slate
#

does flame yummy

thorn drift
wanton pendant
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And doing three would be disastrous for your health.

thorn drift
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got fucked up for it tho

split mortar
pliant ruin
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I mean probably someone did it

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but none that we know of

twilit aspen
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so we just know that one of them fucked up and did multiple, we just don’t know who

wanton pendant
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Two may be possible, but strongly ill advised.

twilit aspen
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understood

pliant ruin
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Two auric souls is like oughh oughhhh you're a glupshitto now oughhh