lore-discussion

[cloud ibex]

keep going

[icy veldt]

Take your time. Breathe deeply

[cloud ibex]

you'll get there eventually

[pliant ruin]

Elementals are, as the name implies, manifestation of the elements of the world itself - Earth, Air, Water, Fire, and a fifth, in the form of Life

[wanton pendant]

They're all racist except Silva, who is against racism.

[pliant ruin]

Elementals are effectively immortal. No matter how many physical bodies of them you destroy, they always come back unless you SOMEHOW destroy All of thier element which is like Impossible so

[wanton pendant]

She's the weirdo of the group.

[zenith geode]

don't need to be human to consume an auric soul

[pliant ruin]

Elementals don't seem entirely mindless but also seem to fundamentally not think like people do as their entire thing is spreading the influence of their domain

Which leads to amny of them being hostile

A notable exception is Silva, who is the only known elemental to ascedn to godhood and was like the primary elemental of Nature/Life (forgor which)

She was actually quite kind and got along well with ppl from what we know

[twilit aspen]

so maybe the brimstone elemental didn’t like something about Yharims plan/war which is why it attacked Azafure? can it even have a capacity to like/not like someone’s ideas/motives?

[wanton pendant]

Nature Elemental.

[icy veldt]

OHHH That clears it up

[wanton pendant]

Goddes of Life.

[wanton pendant]

We don't know.

Nobody does.

[pliant ruin]

Elemetnals 'd say aren't

inherently evil, as seen by silva

It's just that their nature and rationale is fundamentally not the same as regular people due to their entire directive being, spread ur domain

Which leads to alot of them being agressive

Bcuz they just want

spread my water. spread my ifre. etc

[wanton pendant]

They do appear to like expanding their domain, and Silva's domain is things not being dead.

So she is anti-crusade, rather than also doing their own crusade.

She's also not homophobic, so write that down.

[twilit aspen]

Where’s Silva now?

[wanton pendant]

Abyss.

[pliant ruin]

dead but not really

[wanton pendant]

Again.

[pliant ruin]

Her physical body was destroyed by Yharim

but, again

elemental

can't die

So she's still alive, her physical body is just. not really functional right now

It's slowly regenerating tho

[twilit aspen]

is the Abyss different from the thing at the bottom of the sulfurous sea or are those the same thing

[zenith geode]

she got dumped into the abyss which is why there's a lot of life there

[wanton pendant]

Same thing.

[twilit aspen]

word

[pliant ruin]

the abyss is the biome under the sulphur sea yeah

the big ass trench with the scary fish

[zenith geode]

abyss is the trench under the sea yeah

[wanton pendant]

(Technically, it's pitifully small for a trench, but for the location, it's huge.)

[twilit aspen]

can you drain the abyss by digging up from hell

[zenith geode]

second most notable thing in the abyss is probably primordial wyrm

[wanton pendant]

It gets more water.

[twilit aspen]

ohhh right the wall tiles

[pliant ruin]

i think the abyss is coded to constantly produce water but you can drain it

It's just like

really time consuming

really time consuming

[wanton pendant]

Have to use an exploit to break the walls.

[zenith geode]

yeah abyss walls generate water

[wanton pendant]

You can use tile replace to break them.

[twilit aspen]

wait how do u spawn the primordial wyrm i’ve only accidentally spawned it by teleporting in the abyss

[wanton pendant]

And if you use something like Ore Excavator to expedite the process, after a week you'd be able to begin sponging.

[zenith geode]

draconic offshoot thats been alive for a really long time, despises primordial light, and will defend the terminus from anything

[wanton pendant]

Teleporting in the abyss.

[twilit aspen]

okay so that’s the intended method got it

[icy veldt]

Specifically, using the Rod of Discord

[wanton pendant]

It's their version of the Dungeon Guardian.

[icy veldt]

It senses the Chaos State debuff

[twilit aspen]

is it meant to be beatable? i tried fighting it like pre-scal but got shit on

[zenith geode]

it doesn't matter who you are, the primordial wyrm will defend terminus

[wanton pendant]

You can beat it.

You don't have to, it's a secret boss.

[zenith geode]

intended postgame

[wanton pendant]

And it senses the Primordial Light form the RoD.

[twilit aspen]

i’m gonna try im pretty much at endgame in my playthru rn

[zenith geode]

this includes even xeroc
he will be near instantly annihilated by xeroc but he will still try

[dusk laurel]

primordial wyrm is like super old its still really outdated

[wanton pendant]

Unmatched power of the sun.

[twilit aspen]

terminus is the boss rush thing right?

[dusk laurel]

like it doesnt even look like a dragon at all

[wanton pendant]

Yes.

[zenith geode]

yeah

[wanton pendant]

It's a Wyrm.

[zenith geode]

one theory is that its the relic required for perfect ascension

[twilit aspen]

is perfect ascension the auric soul ritual?

[wanton pendant]

No, it's better.

It makes it so you retain the domain of the dragon.

So Xeroc and Silva did it.

But the others didn't.

[dusk laurel]

doesnt explain the bug worm loook

[pliant ruin]

Perfect ascencion is a better version of it that only 2 gods did it

[zenith geode]

perfect ascension leads to you maintaining the dragon's domain and keeping its power

[pliant ruin]

also yeah eidolon wyrm design kinda sucks but its being changed later

It's literally just dollar store ghost leviathan

with rocks on it

[twilit aspen]

who’s Xeroc?

[zenith geode]

imperfect ascension leads to a different domain and possible weakening

[zenith geode]

the first god

[wanton pendant]

God of Primordial Light, or Traitor Almighty as Yharim calls them.

[zenith geode]

consumed the soul of zeratros

[pliant ruin]

First ever god to ascend, absorbed Zeratros's soul after the fight with ML

Strongest guy ever

Like literally just the single strongest guy in the mod's entire lore

[wanton pendant]

Unmatched power of the sun.

[pliant ruin]

hes goated

Yharim describes him more or less as a megalomaniac who betrayed zeratros but

[twilit aspen]

so he was a god who perfect ascended? did he start out as something before a god?

[wanton pendant]

A human.

And a monk.

[pliant ruin]

We have reason to think that's just Not True

[icy veldt]

He was a monk of the dragons

[pliant ruin]

just like every other god in the mod

[wanton pendant]

A really strong one.

[pliant ruin]

He started as Not A God

[twilit aspen]

so he ascended once to godhood then again to whatever he is now?

[pliant ruin]

Because Gods are just, people that ascend

[pliant ruin]

No

He just ascended once

[zenith geode]

for example, dragon of gluttony -> god of slime

[pliant ruin]

It's just that his ascencion was perfect

[twilit aspen]

ohhhh

[wanton pendant]

Became a god through a perfect ascension.

Becoming the Ultimate Lifeform.

[zenith geode]

usually the god's domain will be similar to the dragon's

[pliant ruin]

All things considered it's more likely that Xeroc just did the objectively right thing to do in that scenario

Moon Lord has just narrowly been defeated - Causing complete devastation and killed a shit ton of dragons

Zeratros, the literal strongest dragon

was on his deathbed

And, again, bc of Ml's funky powers

it would've been a Permanent death

And like, if this thing just

[wanton pendant]

Lunar Bite is real and canon.

[pliant ruin]

comes out of nowhere

wrecks everyone's shit

[twilit aspen]

wait i thought zeratros was ml who’s zeratros

[zenith geode]

fovos is ml

[wanton pendant]

King of Dragons.

[pliant ruin]

zeratros was the king of dragons

[icy veldt]

Which could've put out the Sun as well, since Zeratros was the Dragon of the Primordial Light

[pliant ruin]

had the domain of primordial light

was like the strongest dragon

[wanton pendant]

Or made it destroy the world.

[pliant ruin]

and WITH zeratros they only NARROWLY beat it

[wanton pendant]

We don't know what the consquence would be.

[twilit aspen]

was ml a dragon?

[pliant ruin]

no

[wanton pendant]

No?

[pliant ruin]

why would he be 😭 he killed them

[zenith geode]

fovos was just like

an entity

something

[pliant ruin]

hes like a alien fucker that came out of nowhere

fucked up creature

[zenith geode]

not a god or a dragon

[wanton pendant]

Come on, look at that squid thing and tell me where you see the dragon?

[pliant ruin]

shows up out of nowhere, throws hands with dragons, almost destroys the word, r efuses to elaborate

[twilit aspen]

be nice i’m just confused

[icy veldt]

The Moon Lord was an outside-context problem

So to speak

[wanton pendant]

Probably also killed the Martians, too.

[twilit aspen]

so ML killed Zeratros, where then Xeroc absorbed Zeratros’ soul to ascend? is that right?

[wanton pendant]

Almost.

Moon Lord didn't kill Zeratros, but nearly did.

Zeratros was dying, Xeroc finished them off probably one way or another.

[pliant ruin]

Anyways, case in point
If moon lord can just come out of nowhere and wreck everyone's shit with no warning, and that was with Zeratros power
The idea that this could possibly just happen again (Which, entirely possible - There was no warning or indication of Moon Lord existing or attacking them before), except Zeratros would likely be dead and they wouldn't have his help

Xerco absorbing his soul would just be the like objectively best idea

Zeratros was likely going to die regardless

Atleast with absorbing his soul his domain lives on

[twilit aspen]

So Xeroc was doing it in order to preserve the powers that Zeratros had, in order for them not to just disappear when he dies

[wanton pendant]

Possibly.

[pliant ruin]

Not confirmed but

Very possible and we have reason to believe so

We don't still know the exact context

[wanton pendant]

But that's just a theory. A very likely theory.

[pliant ruin]

Yharim tells us Xeroc is just a megalomanaic, but all things point to that just being Yharim being Racist

He hates gods, ofc he'd say that

[wanton pendant]

Just like Yharim Fought The Sun Theory.

[pliant ruin]

We can talk with Xeroc in boss rush

And like he honestly seems pretty chill

[zenith geode]

well more that xeroc monologues to you

[pliant ruin]

true

[wanton pendant]

We're not much for conversation.

[twilit aspen]

stupid question that’s probably obvious but all the lore items are written by Yharim right?

[wanton pendant]

Yes.

[zenith geode]

yes

[pliant ruin]

ye

In the future they won't just be

items that manifest in ur inventory

But a like, little magic communication rock you'll find

And from there Yharim will talk to you after certain moments

[wanton pendant]

Yharim will upgrade from brain blasting you to gossip stones.

[twilit aspen]

So how does Draedon fit into all this shit? it kind of just seems like he’s there fucking around for the sake of science

[wanton pendant]

Exactly right.

[pliant ruin]

Honestly yeah basically

He worked for Yharim

Not because he actually like believed his ideology or anything

Yharim just gave him resources for him to fuck around and find out

[wanton pendant]

You saw the chart, he was just doing stuff for science.

[pliant ruin]

You make weapons for my army, and in return i give you money and materials to do Whatever The Fuck It Is You Want To Do This Time

[zenith geode]

draedon saw that there could be innovation brought forth by working with yharim so he did that

[pliant ruin]

Also that yeah

[zenith geode]

got some really good and rare materials from it

[pliant ruin]

Notably his like, initial motivaton to join Yharim

[zenith geode]

like cosmilite

[pliant ruin]

was to study Yharon up close

as he was the last auric dragon

[wanton pendant]

He considered it a wonderful experience, and he got to work with some great people.

[pliant ruin]

but that was basically a very solid NO from Yharim because Yharon is his best friend and he don't trust Draedon

[twilit aspen]

dude i read that as the last autistic dragon at first 😭

[pliant ruin]

Draedon worked with Yharim for like multiple years

Really long while

[wanton pendant]

That's for the fanfic writers.

[zenith geode]

iirc yharim was also curious about the being who put all of these robots across the continent

[pliant ruin]

Eventually got kicked out becasue of the Bee Incident though

[pliant ruin]

Yeah Draedon was like

basically a cryptid before he joined the yharmy

[wanton pendant]

Like, 72 years.

[twilit aspen]

what’s the Bee Incident?

[pliant ruin]

Like people would see these weird robots sometimes but not really know who invented them or why, with rumours being made about them

[pliant ruin]

Plaguebringer goliath

[wanton pendant]

Plague Bringer Goliath.

[twilit aspen]

figured

[zenith geode]

nanomachine plague

[pliant ruin]

Draedon makes a nanovirus that subverts organisms's free will and turns them into bio-weapons

[twilit aspen]

that’s actually wild that he was able to engineer a plague though

[wanton pendant]

Yharim likes bees, and doesn't like slavery, nominally. So enslaving the bees was upsetting.

[pliant ruin]

Yharim hates that because in his eyes it's slavery and he really hates slavery

[zenith geode]

yharim really liked bees and so freaked the fuck out when draedon was fucking around with the bees

[pliant ruin]

So he kicks him out

Which

Seems reasonable at first

And would be in any other scenario

But then you remember that the plague is just like objectively nowhere near as bad as some of the things Yharim himself did

[wanton pendant]

Then you remember what he had been doing with Calamitas until, like, mere months ago maybe.

[pliant ruin]

Which is saying alot given the plague is already like pretty fucked up and immoral

[zenith geode]

and also there is now a giant plague spreader

loose

[wanton pendant]

Good job, Godseeker.

[zenith geode]

in the most densely packed bit of life

[twilit aspen]

yharims fine with grooming a child but he draws the line at bees

[zenith geode]

this happened a few months before you showed up iirc

[wanton pendant]

Correct.

[zenith geode]

precisely

[wanton pendant]

Closer to 12 years.

[leaden bridge]

draedon should've just like not used bees and yharim wouldve been okay! thats awesome draedon! let's kiss

[zenith geode]

the reason draedon chose bees is because they were a perfect target

[wanton pendant]

I think you mixed up the PBG incident and the Exo armour upgrade.

That happened only months ago.

PBG was 1875.

[zenith geode]

theyre not super strong, they reproduce fast, they naturally follow a leader

[twilit aspen]

wait does terraria take place in a canon year

[wanton pendant]

Sometime around ~1887.

[wanton pendant]

And Calamity, not Terraria.

[zenith geode]

plus or minus a few months

[pliant ruin]

(Terraria is the name of the planet itself

[wanton pendant]

Probably before the second half of the year.

1887 is the earliest possible year.

Unless, I don't know, we start late 1886 and it's 1887 by the end.

[zenith geode]

is it even possible to pinpoint a month due to the fruits available

like there's a lot of fruits all at the same time

[wanton pendant]

I'd assume it'd all conflict.

[zenith geode]

including fruits that do NOT share seasons

[wanton pendant]

I have reason to believe it's BEFORE the third quarter of the year.

Which is also when I think Calamitas' birthday is.

[zenith geode]

like iirc apples are mid fall and cherries are late spring

[wanton pendant]

Blame Relogic for not making agriculture accurate in their shark gun game.

[twilit aspen]

Ao what was the event that kickstarted everything? Was it Moon Lords attack?

[wanton pendant]

Yeah, kinda.

[twilit aspen]

And how long did that take place before we showed up?

[wanton pendant]

Like, 850 years ago.

[split mortar]

Like 8 centuries ago
Tho arguably its the word soul shattering which was ??? Ago

Cause without it shattering no auric dragons

[icy veldt]

Does Terraria have seasonal variation in weather?

[split mortar]

And either no ml invasion or no saving it from ml

[wanton pendant]

If you mean the crusade, then it's Dogma coming up with the plan.

[zenith geode]

well its a planet

[split mortar]

A planet which the sun orbits

[leaden bridge]

yeah but its not heliocentric

[icy veldt]

Seasonal variation in Earth's weather comes from its axial tilt

[zenith geode]

oh right

[leaden bridge]

so like is there even seasons

[split mortar]

The seasons are up to xeroc

[wanton pendant]

The Terrarian is up to Xeroc.

[split mortar]

YOU are up to the TERRARIAN

[icy veldt]

Theoretically, it's possible for a planet with negligible axial tilt to have seasons that are the same on both hemispheres, due to the eccentricity of its orbit

[leaden bridge]

yet another reason the difference in cosmology will inevitably trips peop le up

[wanton pendant]

PRONOUNS are up to the DRAGONS!

[pliant ruin]

does the sun orbit terraria rather than the other way aroudn

i've never heard of that

[leaden bridge]

yes

cei confirmed that

[split mortar]

Dev confirmed it

[pliant ruin]

fucked up

[wanton pendant]

Apparently it's sun orbits planet.

[leaden bridge]

its very fucked up we agree

[icy veldt]

Must be a small sun, then

[wanton pendant]

Probably.

[leaden bridge]

its not even a sun

[wanton pendant]

It's called the sun.

[pliant ruin]

seems like kind of a random choice to make, like i understand the primordial light stuff, thats fair and a part of the story

[icy veldt]

Must be a small Primordial Light, then

[pliant ruin]

but idk why

making the sun orbit the earth

[wanton pendant]

You gotta have screwed up celestial bodies somewhere.

[pliant ruin]

couldnt it just be the same except the sun is made of magicky light

[icy veldt]

Maybe it's to hammer it in that "this doesn't function like normal IRL cosmology"

[pliant ruin]

i suppose there might be a reason to i just dunno yet

[leaden bridge]

yeah like wdk what this is for

[icy veldt]

Stars are made of mana, the Sun is made of primordial light, etc

[wanton pendant]

Xeroc is parasocial.

[leaden bridge]

its very out there and it changes so many things

[icy veldt]

Perhaps it's to discourage theorizing about Calamity-lore Terraria being in some galaxy in some other sci-fi lore

[zenith geode]

oh yeah the sun being primordial light is another reason why the domain needed to be maintained

[pliant ruin]

what does that mean

[leaden bridge]

geocentric circles always go up against the fact that if that were true literally everything about our existence would be different but it is not

[pliant ruin]

i mean the planet is objectively in a galaxy

[leaden bridge]

and thus theyh have quack science to explain why everything is the same

[wanton pendant]

Calamity isn't in Star Wars' canon? Years of theorizing, wasted!

[robust osprey]

tyrant jumpscare

[tropic oak]

hi

[zenith geode]

nothing maintaining primordial light means the sun would die which would send terraria into an eternal winter

[leaden bridge]

calamity is in star wars canon

[robust osprey]

hi

[wanton pendant]

Why did that dog wink?

[leaden bridge]

it's jsut another galaxy

[wanton pendant]

Hello.

[tropic oak]

#mixing so i dont blow peoples ears out right now. its going well i think

[wanton pendant]

Or maybe it would spiral out of control.

[tropic oak]

how goes lore discussion

[leaden bridge]

that doesnt make much sense does it

[zenith geode]

which is a pretty big problem as seen with

[wanton pendant]

Actually quite well.

[zenith geode]

uhhhh

[split mortar]

Or the sun fucking kills everything by burning the planet

[leaden bridge]

the sun existed before the world soul split didnt it

[split mortar]

Yeah

[zenith geode]

has there ever been a case of an ice age of that magnitude

[leaden bridge]

so why would its existence require the domain of primordial light to exist in the planet

[wanton pendant]

If it disappeared, like in Embers, everyone would die horribly, probably.

[robust osprey]

world soul probably had it covered

[wanton pendant]

If it spiralled out of control, everyone would die horribly, like in Embers.

[leaden bridge]

you know whats funny

[wanton pendant]

I think it's like, the sun is some other thing, but the domain of Primordial Light gives the power to control it.

[leaden bridge]

that terraria still has perfect eclipses

[wanton pendant]

Yeah that's weird.

[leaden bridge]

so like, it's got two different celestial objects on two different orbits

have fun mathing that one out

[wanton pendant]

So sun is further away than the moon still.

And they happen at random, for extra fun.

[split mortar]

Does primordial light even have mass since its
Light

[leaden bridge]

it's probably less at random and more like the orbits sync up in an stupidly fucking ridiculous pattern because of the conditions required for both orbits to even exist

[wanton pendant]

Does magic have mass?

[leaden bridge]

yes

[split mortar]

Stars obliterate enemies so yeah

[robust osprey]

depends on the magic probably

[wanton pendant]

Calamitas must have really heavy bones.

[leaden bridge]

mana objectively has mass

[split mortar]

Mana is behind all magic so i think its does mana

[split mortar]

Oh true

[wanton pendant]

So if Primordial Light is magic light, that would imply it has mass.

[split mortar]

Why

[leaden bridge]

because magic does

why isnt primordia ll light just like a specific type of mana instead of like its own thing isnt that kinda wak

[wanton pendant]

Also, would Calamitas have fatigue issues from her bones being really heavy?

[robust osprey]

as I said it probably depends on what magic is it

if it's fucking

gravity magic

it wouldn't have mass

it's gravity

[wanton pendant]

Does this give her an increased cancer risk?

[leaden bridge]

well you assume she mas her magic like, physically inside her body

which could be true we guess

[wanton pendant]

I mean, that's how magic works.

It's stored in the bones.

[leaden bridge]

like actually

[wanton pendant]

Believe it was mentioned.

[leaden bridge]

or is there simply magic in your bones

thats just

[robust osprey]

does mana even have weight

[leaden bridge]

thats just an imagine dragons song

we're not

we're not falling for this shit

[robust osprey]

mana is just stored in bones

magic calcium

[leaden bridge]

they stealing ascensionverse lore now

shake our head

[wanton pendant]

Teeth are magic, by this metric.

Therefore, Calamity Tooth Fairy is a force to be reckoned with.

[split mortar]

Cei realised some permafrost dialogue for sso meant that mana is stored in the bones and kept it iirc

[wanton pendant]

That's gotta be giving her spine problems, right?

[leaden bridge]

well yes

[split mortar]

Old ass quote

Oops ping

[wanton pendant]

Along with sleeping on the ground, probably.

[robust osprey]

the magic or the rock pillow

[wanton pendant]

Both.

[split mortar]

Alternate route where when scal gets the magic boost her bones fall out her body due ti weighing 4000 tons per cubic cm

[wanton pendant]

She uses magic to make them lighter, obviously.

Now I'm realizing the possibility that Calamitas, in spite of being like half his size, may be heavier than Yharim.

[leaden bridge]

no because armor

[wanton pendant]

How much does Auric Tesla weigh?

[leaden bridge]

and also hes like on mana surely he just puts it all on the sword

[zenith geode]

yharim's armour probably weighs quite a bit considering he's like 9 feet tall

[split mortar]

Closer to 8 foot in the concept art iirc but yeah point still stands

Big buff guy with arms as thick as logs

[leaden bridge]

auric tesla could weigh infinity pounds per cubic milimiter wdfk

[zenith geode]

even if it is exoified

[leaden bridge]

we dont think the exo removes any weigh

if anything it just adds more

[split mortar]

Yeah dont think auric was removed to add exo

[zenith geode]

ah

i'd imagine exotech is decently light though

[split mortar]

Except thanatos

[zenith geode]

considering the mobility of hunters

[split mortar]

Fair

[zenith geode]

thanatos was a gimmick

investing everything into "bulky worm" is not a good gimmick though

[wanton pendant]

This does raise questions about how much mana weighs. I'd assume it's still pretty light, even in high quantities, otherwise Calamitas will have every bone problem by 30.

[split mortar]

If only thanatos tried actually being a tank and body blocking the terrarian

[wanton pendant]

Thanatos also gets the weight from the armour, which it has a lot of.

[icy veldt]

What if the solar eclipse isn't actually an eclipse? What if it's just the sun doing something weird?

[faint totem]

Probably the same as bone marrow.

[split mortar]

That would be fucking weird

[split mortar]

Calamitas with 700000000 mana:

[wanton pendant]

Xeroc watches a horror movie on his break from doing God Taxes.

[split mortar]

From doing what

[wanton pendant]

God Taxes?

[icy veldt]

God taxes. Y'know

[faint totem]

Or she has a mana flower build

[split mortar]

She had fuck you mana before being able to afford one

[icy veldt]

Calamitas could NOT fly with all of that mana weighing down her bones!

[faint totem]

Can you drink or eat mana?

[wanton pendant]

You haven't been?

[icy veldt]

Yes, it's like schlorping up bone marrow

[faint totem]

Not mana potions, actual raw mana

[wanton pendant]

I know.

[leaden bridge]

mana crystals are raw mana

[split mortar]

Stars are raw mana

So

Yeah eat

I presume it can also take liquid and gas forms

[icy veldt]

Break open CalClone's femur and slurp up its marrow

[split mortar]

Tho idk if shimmer is raw mana or na

[faint totem]

No

[wanton pendant]

That's mean!

Shimmer is a secret third thing.

[faint totem]

I think shimmer is its own thing

[icy veldt]

"Get in the Femur Breaker."
"RRRRAAAAUAUAUAUUUUAUUUGGGGHGHHGHHGG RRRRRR RRHHHHGHHHHHG"

[wanton pendant]

DoG then appears.

[faint totem]

god pee

[icy veldt]

Yes

[wanton pendant]

Please think before you type.

[icy veldt]

I agree with both statements

This is my life, and I'm never wrong

[split mortar]

Avitus im banning you from

[icy veldt]

All women are beautiful

[wanton pendant]

I agree.

[icy veldt]

||It's a reference to https://youtu.be/myd0U5kDwy8||

[wanton pendant]

Do you think they have Flappy Bird on the magic rocks?

[split mortar]

No but they have minesweeper and snake

[icy veldt]

Flappy Dragon

[wanton pendant]

No wonder Yharim wants someone to come up there and kill him, becoming his successor.

[distant smelt]

I’ll do it
Minesweeper is goated

[wanton pendant]

Yharim much prefers games that he can stream on YouTube.

[distant smelt]

Minesweeper stream

[light linden]

@spare pierhey can I ask a question about polterghast rq?

[hoary berry]

[spare pier]

Shoot

[light linden]

how do you think it'd react if it saw yharim again?

ik it couldn't win the fight but still

[wanton pendant]

Violently is my guess.

[split mortar]

I think the only way to describe it would be every violent reaction at once

[leaden bridge]

They do actually

[twilit aspen]

Is/was Statis a real person or are they a mythical person kind of like Robin Hood

[leaden bridge]

It's one of those strange fan made backports

[wanton pendant]

Statis is real.

[leaden bridge]

But since flappy bird is so simple it's basically the same

[wanton pendant]

In fact, you technically fight him.

[twilit aspen]

really? who?

[wanton pendant]

Signus is possessing him.

[twilit aspen]

which one is signus is that the hell one

[wanton pendant]

Yes.

[twilit aspen]

okay thats interesting

[leaden bridge]

You meant o tell me that Signus is statis

Kike there's just Signus inside him

[tropic oak]

they r involved with each other in some way

something something deal something something

[split mortar]

Lemme grab the statement where it was revealed statis is possessed by signus

[twilit aspen]

"The Devourer is not one for honor or loyalty. But he sensed weakness. Hesitation. An easy prey.
The serpent ensnared both my assailants in a dimensional vortex. Assuring me they were as good as dead.
Yet, Statis must have struck a bargain with Signus. He escaped his banishment unscathed."

-Signus Lore Item

who are the Onyx Kinsmen mentioned in the Signus lore item?

[split mortar]

Images of what triangle said and then rebecca yapping

[split mortar]

People who worshiped slimegod and signus and statis is the last one
Presumably yharim happened to the other god worshippers

[twilit aspen]

dude how do u pull messages from months and months ago

[tropic oak]

melon is the knower

[split mortar]

Unmatched power of autism

I remember when people were against the image perm removal partially cause it would be harder to get dev statements…

[wanton pendant]

They have a really big book of timestamps where they have every single lore reveal.

[split mortar]

No

[tropic oak]

if someone wants to document that they can

i aint doin allat personally

[twilit aspen]

"The infamous, otherworldly glutton, in the flesh. His imposing title was self-granted, but undeniable truth made it stick.
He is a formidable foe: Capable of swallowing Gods whole, absorbing their essence in its entirety." -DoG lore item

so DoG can eat gods. But eating gods doesnt make him a god right? hes just a big eater? absorbing their essence makes me think he gained their powers or something but idk im confused

[wanton pendant]

No, consuming an Aruic Soul makes you a god.

The essence of a god doesn't.

Otherwise, eating the corruption/crimson/hallow would make you a god.

[twilit aspen]

And gods dont have Auric Souls? They're used up when ascending to godhood presumably?

[split mortar]

Yeah

[wanton pendant]

The have Godly Souls.

Which are more volatile.

[twilit aspen]

So did they start out with a Godly Soul, or did the Auric Soul change their human soul into a godly one?

[split mortar]

DoG doesnt absorb essence its just gone

[tropic oak]

Auric Souls --> God Souls upon Ritual

[wanton pendant]

Auric into Godly.

Well, World into Auric into Godly.

[twilit aspen]

okay i have no idea what the world soul is i thought it was the thing from fargos souls

[wanton pendant]

That's a different thing.

That's the Soul of Terraria, which is an accessory.

No relation.

[tropic oak]

[twilit aspen]

Whos That.

[split mortar]

The world used to have a soul
It shattered
Shards are related to auric souls somehow (prob absorbed )

Soul of terraria is the fargos souls item

[tropic oak]

ye

[split mortar]

Or are you on about world shaper soul

The building accessory from fargos

[twilit aspen]

are the multiverses an effect of the world soul being shattered?

[wanton pendant]

What?

[tropic oak]

what multiverses

[twilit aspen]

LOL hold on

[wanton pendant]

Multiverse isn't really of importance to the Calamity lore.

[twilit aspen]

ohhh yeah i started out on the fandom wiki when i was writing lore notes and there was shit about multiverses on there

[wanton pendant]

That's all made up.

[twilit aspen]

then i hopped over to the gg wiki

yeah i figured that out LOL i forgot to fix my notes

[tropic oak]

anything you wrote down from the fandom wiki

kill it

[twilit aspen]

is goozma canon

[wanton pendant]

It's marginally better than the Total Calamity wiki.

[split mortar]

Fandom is silly

[wanton pendant]

No.

[twilit aspen]

goozma balls

[wanton pendant]

Retconned out, I think.

[leaden bridge]

The calamimultivererse actually already existed, it's Goozma that was created by the world soul to be the vessel of power

[tropic oak]

shaddup

[twilit aspen]

yeah calamimultiverse is the thing i read about on fandom

[split mortar]

Goozma in old lore slowly got rewritten into noxus then the big rewrite happened so now we have just new lore noxus

So
Unless you see noxus as goozma then no

[leaden bridge]

Now, the calamimultivererse actually reset because in the past one, goozma had to be killed by the five premordial lanterns

[split mortar]

[leaden bridge]

That's irrelevant though so it's not mentioned

[twilit aspen]

Is Noxus fightable in game? I see a wiki page about him but it also says that the spawn item was removed so im not sure

[split mortar]

What the fuck goes on in the fandom wiki

[wanton pendant]

No.

[icy veldt]

Hell

[leaden bridge]

But it's important because xeroc, who you know as the god of premordial light, will split into them later

[wanton pendant]

Not yet at least.

[leaden bridge]

Stop using the fandom wiki dude

[split mortar]

Noxus never was fightable in base cal iirc

Noxus would be added after yharim if they are added

[twilit aspen]

bro https://terrariamods.wiki.gg/wiki/Wrath_of_the_Gods/Genesis

[wanton pendant]

That's a different mod.

[leaden bridge]

completely different mod

[split mortar]

Wrath of the gods is a seperate mod

[leaden bridge]

If you read

[wanton pendant]

And doesn't involve Noxus.

[twilit aspen]

oh shit LOL

thats why hahahahh

[icy veldt]

💀

[twilit aspen]

i thought the wiki looked different

[wanton pendant]

Because it is a different wiki.

[icy veldt]

[split mortar]

Im going to eat a pencil

[twilit aspen]

i get up to a bit of silliness

[icy veldt]

Mmmm yummy

[wanton pendant]

But you'll get lead poisoning!

[split mortar]

Ill poison the lead

[hoary berry]

pencil made of sand

yumm,,,,

[split mortar]

Oh hey goode

Goose

[twilit aspen]

sandcil

[hoary berry]

[split mortar]

Sand tastes bad

[split mortar]

Change it to lea channel smh my head

[hoary berry]

nop

deltarune today.

[twilit aspen]

deltarune jan. 1 2026

[mighty zenith]

silksong 5 days ago

[split mortar]

Lea in deltarune when

[hoary berry]

lea is in skong act twenty-nine btw

[split mortar]

Waow

[mighty zenith]

yeah

[hoary berry]

u team up with her to fight learo

(scripted loss

[split mortar]

Ah yeah

[hoary berry]

(cuz she's the strongest

[split mortar]

(True

[mighty zenith]

i love having incomprehensible conversations in lore discussion

[wanton pendant]

It made sense up until a minute ago.

[icy veldt]

Dragon of Eating Pencils

[split mortar]

Lore chat try not to devolve into roleplay brainrot

[wanton pendant]

Obviously, we must call ghost busters.

[hoary berry]

dragon of 🍈

[split mortar]

ecumena

[split mortar]

What trh fuck

[mighty zenith]

dead

[icy veldt]

A REAL GUN?!

[mighty zenith]

became the god of terrarian

[wanton pendant]

Which is you.

[icy veldt]

God of 🫵YOU🫵

[split mortar]

Whats the lore for devourer of universes

[wanton pendant]

He devours universes.

[icy veldt]

DoG made a clone of himself so neither of them would be virgins

[mighty zenith]

woah

[mighty zenith]

what

[icy veldt]

Indeed

[mighty zenith]

[icy veldt]

But then DoU and DoG realized that they weren't interested in each other, so they went their separate ways

[split mortar]

[hoary berry]

that's somehow less coherent than the cal fic i wrote at like 2am

[icy veldt]

Sad, but it is what it is

[split mortar]

The roleplay rot or the dog clone thing

[wanton pendant]

Yes.

[split mortar]

Goose i forgot why noxus prefers waffles or pancakes over the other

[wanton pendant]

...what?

[hoary berry]

waffles because um.

idk im not brave enough to look through that slideshow again

[split mortar]

💔

[icy veldt]

Slideshow? Wha

[wanton pendant]

Never head of a slideshow? It's when you have a collection of images, and you view them in order, but like, one at a time, so not like a movie.

[split mortar]

I did
Waffles cause box stores god essence better
And then its the horrors

[wanton pendant]

What?

[split mortar]

I can find stuff well

[hoary berry]

i just checked my drive and i have that shitpost of a slideshow in my Stories folder for some reason

right next to actual worldbuilding projects

[split mortar]

LMAO

That doc has horrors in it that tell stories

[wanton pendant]

Obviously the Noxus pancake/waffle debate is the most important of such activities.

[twilit aspen]

i feel like noxus would really fw these

[split mortar]

Heres the slides

[wanton pendant]

What.

[split mortar]

The noxus waffles slides

[hoary berry]

the scary thing is that i'm pretty sure i made that while entirely lucid

also i was backreading and just saw The Moon Lord Gif™

war flashbacks

[split mortar]

Yeah it was like 8 am

[split mortar]

…

[hoary berry]

it was made over 2 months before the message u forwarded

so u cant rly use that timestamp

[split mortar]

Oh

Rip

[hoary berry]

i'd love to have something serious to share here to wash away that slideshow but i still haven't finished my aureus fic

[wanton pendant]

Astrum Aureus has at least one fan, so someone would appreciate it.

[split mortar]

Just share asteros katanos rp doc lol

[hoary berry]

tbh i would be willing to share the space creature genus stuff here but when you take it outside of the roleplay it basically has no connection to cal lore

and a good chunk of it wouldn't even rly make sense without roleplay context

[icy veldt]

Should be called Astrorum Aureus, using the genitive plural of astrum

[wanton pendant]

Well, Latin doesn't exist in Calamity.

[icy veldt]

Grammatically-incorrect Latin 😡

[wanton pendant]

So it's a fictional language where the rules are different.

[icy veldt]

Neither does English

[wanton pendant]

But resembles Latin.

[icy veldt]

I hate that so much

[wanton pendant]

True.

[split mortar]

💔

[icy veldt]

I will erase you from existence just so your repulsive idea doesn't pollute anyone else's mind

[split mortar]

I should share the ebonia doc when im done with it in 37 years (silksong delaying it)

[wanton pendant]

Ooooh, Holy Roman Empire was the true successor to Rome...

[icy veldt]

You are already dead

[wanton pendant]

Ooooh, the current heir to Rome is Finland...

[icy veldt]

I command thee to perish

[wanton pendant]

Ooooh... Russia's claim to being the third Rome was legitimate...

[warm gull]

hello everyone

[long bloom]

hai

[dusk laurel]

is that stinkychungus25

[wanton pendant]

Hello.

[frosty charm]

yes it does

[warm gull]

Auric bar being named after Aurum which is latin for gold:

[wanton pendant]

It's a fictional language that resembles Latin.

[split mortar]

You are a fictional person resembling humanity

[wanton pendant]

Oh, are you familiar with the Pikmin lore?

[split mortar]

No

[wanton pendant]

Then fix that.

[split mortar]

Too busy doing other stuff

[icy veldt]

Fix what?

[wanton pendant]

Not being familiar with the Pikmin lore.

[icy veldt]

That's not a problem

So it doesn't need to be fixed

[woeful hatch]

I mean there's plenty of stuff which theoretically should have taken inspiration from classical culture: the exo Mechs being named after Greek gods, the omicron which is literally just a Greek letter, anything with "alpha" or "omega" in it, etc

I could go deeper

[wanton pendant]

Convergent evolution.

[icy veldt]

Maybe there's just a translation convention going on, non-diegetically translating Terraria's own cultural concepts into things we (the players/audience) can understand

[wanton pendant]

Yeah, makes sense.

[woeful hatch]

I just like to imagine there was a similar civilization to the classical ones, personally

[wanton pendant]

There were Spartan analogues.

[woeful hatch]

We have the marble stuff and everything

[icy veldt]

Which would imply that the usage of grammatically-incorrect Latin is an error

[woeful hatch]

Spartan analogues, armed with roman sword analogues (Gladius)

And dropping armor named after said swords

(gladiator)

[wanton pendant]

Which are flanked by a Greek monster.

And multiple of them, despite it being a person.

[icy veldt]

IIRC the native demonym for Chrysadia, Chrysone in the singular and Chrysonai in the plural, resembles the nominative-case forms of a Greek first-declension noun

[woeful hatch]

Yeah it makes sense, like the real places called "Arcadia" and the like

[light linden]

arcadia?

arcadiamon reference?

[woeful hatch]

No

[icy veldt]

What?

[wanton pendant]

Arcadia? Megaman Zero reference?

[icy veldt]

No it isn't

[light linden]

: (

[woeful hatch]

Considering that the "Chrys" part of the word means it's related to gold in Greek, my guess is that they just named it Chrysadia as in it meaning like "city of gold" or something

Or "golden city/region/place"

[icy veldt]

Probably. The Sunplate tiles that make up the houses on those floating sky islands do have some gold decoration stuff on them

[woeful hatch]

Yeah

[frosty charm]

I wonder if sunplate has a purpose beyond looking nice

Maybe it's a good heat absorber for the outside of the homes so the insides can be cool

[wanton pendant]

So for insulation.

[frosty charm]

Or vise versa

[frosty charm]

Yea

[wanton pendant]

They did live in the sky, so it'd be windy.

[woeful hatch]

Readily available material right up in the sky probably? Like, unless they just built with raw stone, sunplate seems like the most logical choice

However even just getting the stone must have been costly. Maybe it was a show of wealth too, "look at how much stone I can afford to literally send in the sky"

[light linden]

this is a question for stip

[frosty charm]

Yeah I'm aware

[wanton pendant]

They traded for raw materials.

[light linden]

@cosmic zenith the people crave chrysadia knowledge

[frosty charm]

I'm talking about like housing properties though not just why they used it

[frosty charm]

I actually do need some

[woeful hatch]

Well, it does seem more solid than just normal stone, to me

I'd argue even stronger than bricks

Like, the sky houses we see now look really uniform

[wanton pendant]

I mean, it did survive Moon Lord.

[light linden]

I think that's changing

also personal grievance with the whole moon lord attacking chrysadia

[icy veldt]

Maybe what we see is just a Chrysadian suburb, with cookie-cutter houses?

[wanton pendant]

I think it was less attacking Chrysadia and more Chrysadia was in his way.

[light linden]

kinda upset my initial idea about the attack wasn't true

[wanton pendant]

So it got blasted apart when he descended from the heavens.

[light linden]

I thought chrysadia was a floating continent that got literally shattered by the moon lord

[woeful hatch]

I meant uniform as in more like "really solid". I just expressed myself badly

The fact that the structures are the same isn't what I was pointing out

[wanton pendant]

I think it was always floating islands.

[light linden]

but it was just a floating archipelago

[wanton pendant]

Let me check the document.

[light linden]

@wanton pendant

[wanton pendant]

Yes, I didn't leave.

Didn't even get time to enter the file explorer.

[cosmic zenith]

?

[light linden]

stip the people crave chrysadia knowledge

[light linden]

namely this person

[woeful hatch]

We desire knowledge on Chrysadia

Like, were the sunplate blocks just there to be pretty or was there a structural reason for them to be there

Like unique properties or something

[wanton pendant]

What was the reason for Sunplate being used for building.

[split mortar]

Drop all public lore of chrysadia stip

[light linden]

would've been a neat way to show the players direct effects of the moon lord's attack

[wanton pendant]

We crave architecture.

[light linden]

since we only see stuff that is the result of the consequences

[frosty charm]

Was was

[frosty charm]

Might steal this lowk

[wanton pendant]

You saw nothing.

[frosty charm]

I like that idea a lot

[cosmic zenith]

Cheap to make and pretty, basically

They did have structures that harnessed sunlight, but it wasn't sunplate

[wanton pendant]

So they had solar panels or something?

[light linden]

yeah didn't they have to avoid the sun most of the time so they didn't get cooked like yharim?

[woeful hatch]

Nice , ty for the info

[cosmic zenith]

🤐 😉

No problem!

[light linden]

also stip I have a question for you

[cosmic zenith]

Go on

[wanton pendant]

Do you think even the worst person can change?

[light linden]

what's your favorite weapon?

[split mortar]

Sandle undertable

[cosmic zenith]

Depends on the person, it's never as simple as that

[cosmic zenith]

Ark of the Cosmos

[frosty charm]

Stip will there be an ace attorney inspired camed called "calawmity" where Calamitas becomes a prosecuting attorney and brings the bosses of calamity to justice

[split mortar]

Stip whats the gayest crafting material in calamity

[wanton pendant]

Uelibloom.

[frosty charm]

Exo prism

It's rainbow

[wanton pendant]

That can mean it's autistic.

[split mortar]

You get the agenda

[split mortar]

Draedon is so maybe both

[wanton pendant]

Once again, strapping nukes to bees is not a symptom of autism.

[split mortar]

It is

[woeful hatch]

Miracle matter of course

[cosmic zenith]

Life Alloy

[split mortar]

Any elaboration or gonna leave and not explain

[woeful hatch]

Wait Galactica singularities too, since they make elemental tiered weapons, a lot of which are rainbow

[split mortar]

Aint elemental weapons and miracle matter getting changed sprite wise

[cosmic zenith]

Funni rainbow bar

[wanton pendant]

I think it speaks for itself.

[split mortar]

Tgats gayer rhen i rememberes

[wanton pendant]

Me after learning the updated Statis and Braelor lore a few months ago.

[woeful hatch]

Well they will still apply rainbow debuffs

[woeful hatch]

Do we think Silva officiated their wedding

[wanton pendant]

Nah, Silva's divorced, I don't think she'd want to.

[woeful hatch]

She's divorced? Damn, who's her ex

[wanton pendant]

Xeroc, of course.

[light linden]

I expected astral bar tbh

[wanton pendant]

The divorce arc is gonna go crazy when the Divorce Overhaul Update comes out.

[split mortar]

Astral is closeted

[woeful hatch]

Now, which is the most HOMOPHOBIC crafting material

[wanton pendant]

They should make GAY ore which allows you to make WOKE bars which can be used to make Tarragon Armour.

[wanton pendant]

Auric Tesla.

Or maybe Cosmilite.

[split mortar]

Cosmilite

Everything from the distortion is homophobic

[young socket]

now whats the most straight but not homophobic material

[wanton pendant]

Iron.

[split mortar]

Auric is gay as fuck it only accepts other auric related things

[woeful hatch]

New lore: signus' deal with Statis was he has to break up with Braelor, the quests we have to do are to make them get back together

[light linden]

I uh

distortion has bi colors

[wanton pendant]

You need more than purple to be bisexual.

[woeful hatch]

Nah, no red

[wanton pendant]

They should remove purple, it's done nobody any benefit.

[light linden]

they have blue, purple, and pink

[wanton pendant]

Someone pull up the bisexual flag.

[split mortar]

So dos dog yet he is every phobic that specifically pisses off the people he is around

[wanton pendant]

Where's the bright magenta in the Distortion?

[light linden]

signus's eyes

it what first came to mind

[wanton pendant]

They are far too light.

[light linden]

storm weaver's unarmored body

several accents on DoG

[wanton pendant]

Storm Weaver's still too light.

DoG current sprite maybe, but that's being changed.

And his new one looks to be the wrong shade.

Conclusion: DoG is still biphobic.

[woeful hatch]

DOG isn't just biphobic, he's homophobic, heterophobic, racist, etc

He WILL find slurs to call you

[split mortar]

Dog is biphobic if it pisses you off

[wanton pendant]

Future Boss Concept: DoG from an alternate timeline where he doesn't hate everyone. Befriender of Mortals, the Enemy-less Serpent.

[woeful hatch]

That's just aquatic scourge

[wanton pendant]

Well.... Aquatic Scourge has one enemy...

[split mortar]

Whoever made this image

They sre aqua scoogs enemy

[wanton pendant]

Being able to choose to replace Yharim implies we will be able to kill Calamitas... like some kind of monster.

[split mortar]

Flymeal

[wanton pendant]

Good luck killing her with a 15 damage sword.

[split mortar]

“No hit legendary hyper infernum defiled feather scal kill”

[light linden]

still wanna throw yharim in the dungeon

[wanton pendant]

That's still not going to work.

[light linden]

I do not see why it wouldn't

throw him in, destroy the exit, and wait

[wanton pendant]

He's too strong.

[icy veldt]

I'm gonna piss on Yharim's corpse after killing him

[split mortar]

Yharim punches the dorection known as up and now theres an exit the size of a dungeon

[light linden]

there is no amount of strength that can save you from exhaustion and starvation

[wanton pendant]

He eats the spare ribs.

And also blows up a whole into the walls.

[light linden]

?

what ribs?

[wanton pendant]

From the skeletons.

[icy veldt]

Um, the skeletons don't have meat on their bones

[light linden]

that won't keep him alive for long

it might buy him a few days but uh

[wanton pendant]

He could also just escape.

[light linden]

he's going to get tired

[wanton pendant]

What do you think he's eating in the Dragon's Aerie?

[light linden]

idk if he needs to eat there

it fucks with time somehow

[split mortar]

I dont think the aerie pauses the time for objects from outside the aerie

[wanton pendant]

Can't he just punch his way out?

[split mortar]

Otherwise yharim would be literally invincible

[wanton pendant]

Like Big Boss.

[light linden]

punching bricks is not advisable

[wanton pendant]

So? I punch bricks daily. They have begun to tremble in my presence. Buildings crumble at the sight of me.

[light linden]

also the amount of punching required to break a literal brick wall would be exhausting

not to mention fending off a bunch of souls who want you specifically dead

ik he could easily beat one soul

but there'd likely be hundreds trying to kill him

[zenith geode]

alright but what if the soul was way angrier

[split mortar]

Yeah punching your way out the dungeon would be very fucking tiresome for people
But
I genuinely think yharim just easily punches his way out

He deleted a section of the jungle lab in a single hit iirc

[icy veldt]

With his sword, not his fists. HUUUUUUGE difference

[wanton pendant]

The souls are fodder for Yharim.

Yharim is not a normal person in any sense of the phrase.

[thick slate]

normal to me

[wanton pendant]

Yeah, but you're screwed up and mysterious and such.

[split mortar]

Genuinely i dont think they can really land a scratch on him due to auric rejection
Other then polter

[thick slate]

so true

[heavy zenith]

Was just randomly thinking about this, the Ilmeran Sea Kingdom couldn't have been on the sea floor since the sunken sea is still a thing?

Right?

[wanton pendant]

It wasn't a sea, per say.

And the sunken sea is the rural outskirts.

That survived the brunt of the attack.

[split mortar]

Its technically like an underground aquifer the size of italy or something

[wanton pendant]

Yeah, that's it.

Calamitas focused her assault on urban, densely populated areas to weaken their military and flush out the gods.

So the low population rural parts are mostly unscathed.

[light linden]

the structure of it is being changed but uh

higher up part was the bulk of the city

and the most scorched part

the lower you go in the sea you go to more and more rural parts of the city

[heavy zenith]

Ohhhh I see what you mean

[light linden]

when sso drops we'll see more ruins of the proper city

[heavy zenith]

Sso?

[long bloom]

next update

sunken sea overhaul

[heavy zenith]

Oh no way, that's sick

Any ETA rn?

[long bloom]

hopefully this year

[heavy zenith]

Sheeeessh

[long bloom]

it's also the biggest update in history by far

[light linden]

not really

basically scope creep made them split it in two

[wanton pendant]

Sunken Sea Red & Sunken Sea Blue.

[long bloom]

part 1 is supposed to release this year maybe and has the worldgen and pre hardmode creatures

[heavy zenith]

Damn we got Ilmeran gang wars?

Crazy

[long bloom]

part 2 has the hardmode creatures

[heavy zenith]

Oh that sounds pretty cool

[frosty charm]

i'm trying to think of a magic system for a calamity story, i had an idea where magic is based on personality/emotions (mana is still the catalyst/fuel) but i dunno. does terraria/calamity have a preestablished magic system or not really

[heavy zenith]

I mean there are schools of magic

[long bloom]

in calamity, mana is stored in the bones

[heavy zenith]

I know necromancy is one of them

[frosty charm]

i'm aware

[heavy zenith]

Same with brimstone

[frosty charm]

magic bone cancer

[long bloom]

true

[heavy zenith]

But as far as that goes I dont think so

[frosty charm]

i'm talking about how the magic actually works

[heavy zenith]

Oh nah

[frosty charm]

i'm tryna figure out if i have much to go off of or like

do i just make shit up

lmao

[long bloom]

not established

go ham

[heavy zenith]

Like the actual spellcasting techniques are not touched upon whatsoever im pretty sure

Same with like how it ties to mana at a fundamental level

[frosty charm]

i'll probably go with the emotions thing then as i think it'd be an interesting way to go

i'm bothering to actually plan for worldbuilding and i figured id get this out of the way first

[wanton pendant]

There's the Christmas Permafrost dialogue, but that may be outdated.

[split mortar]

There are types of magic but we dunno all of em or the rhyme and reason behind them
Fire and the trillion other fires exist
Electricity does
Brimstone and necromancy are seperate from other stuff
Whatever yharon does as rebirth
And more

[frosty charm]

isnt most of the electricity stuff just biological

like the dragonfolly type

i know there was the water electricity god but the stormlion/other electric stuff seem more biological/mechanical than magical

[woeful hatch]

I mean not really?

We have lunatic cultist for example

He does lightning magic

[heavy zenith]

Damn I forgot about LC

Good point

[frosty charm]

that seems to be just tied to the celestial stuff but i'm moreso talking about the cal creatures

also yeah forgot about the cultist

i know there's the electric god but like

[wanton pendant]

And one of the pillars.

[heavy zenith]

LC is a cultist member

[woeful hatch]

There's also storm weaver which isn't really biologically doing that, he's just making storms

[wanton pendant]

*weaving storms.

[frosty charm]

stormlion seems to be a biological thing
dragonfolly seems to be manipulating an electric field because it's cool i guess

good point on storm weaver

[wanton pendant]

Permafrost can also probably do like every kind of magic he just really likes ice for some reason.

[heavy zenith]

Well those are animals

[long bloom]

there's plans to give yharon red lightning iirc

[frosty charm]

because it's

cool

heh

[wanton pendant]

Get out.

[frosty charm]

no

[woeful hatch]

Well in calamity we do have mana stars but

Other than that I don't think we have much

[heavy zenith]

Mana does gather in deep space, that could imply that mana is an innate force that permeates everything

[woeful hatch]

Just that some people are more capable than others in magic, and that doesn't mean like they understand it better, they're just born with more magic power

[split mortar]

Mana attracts to itself

[heavy zenith]

You right

[long bloom]

or it has a gravitational field

one of the two

[wanton pendant]

Mana is gay.

[heavy zenith]

So its like a physical thing with mass, stars aren't pure mana right?

[wanton pendant]

They are.

[long bloom]

stars are pure mana

[wanton pendant]

Sun isn't, since it's not a star, it's a secret other thing.

(Primordial Light.)

[heavy zenith]

Lmao

[long bloom]

also the sun orbits terraria

and fallen stars are literal stars

from space

[woeful hatch]

Well, energy and mass are essentially the same thing (even irl) so

[woeful hatch]

Huh I did not know this

[frosty charm]

terrarian is actually able to use magic because a falling star collided into their skull at mach fuck when they were 7 and all the mana went into their skull

[long bloom]

true

[heavy zenith]

Energy are connected but not essentially the same thing.

[woeful hatch]

I headcanon that any terrarian we play has the POTENTIAL to be a great mage even far beyond the normal person, and that it's represented by how fast our mana recharges

[woeful hatch]

They're two sides of the same coin

[frosty charm]

also does anyone have a small list of like, the most important events in the cal lore beyond

• moon lord destroying things for some reason
• xeroc having a mukbang with zeratos
• the dragons being mukbangd out of reality
• the crusades
• the azafure + ilmeris incidents

[long bloom]

i'm making a full timeline

[frosty charm]

do you have any progress on it because i could definitely use it

[heavy zenith]

Read my bio

[frosty charm]

sweet thanks

[heavy zenith]

[frosty charm]

gonna save it to watch later because i'm worried abt the magic system most rn

[woeful hatch]

There's the astral meteor landing on terraria, which unlike how it works gameplay wise, lore-wise it has already fallen by the start of our journey

There's also the Statis and Braelor duel with Yharim which will be more important in later updates

[split mortar]

No it falls after we kill wof

[frosty charm]

i don't plan on touching the astral infection much since it's mostly a story of the post ml content

[frosty charm]

"unlike how it works gameplay wise"

[frosty charm]

still important to note though (thanks) byea

[split mortar]

Yeah lore wise its after wof as well oirc

[frosty charm]

dont realy know why i mentioned it

[woeful hatch]

No? I know for sure it didn't use to be like that, and I doubt it is now

[split mortar]

Wgat proof do we have that it falls before the gsme starts

[heavy zenith]

I mean Draedon sent an Aureus unit there, unless he just used one in Present Day

[wanton pendant]

That was after WoF died.

[split mortar]

Draedon using an aureus is not a point against

[wanton pendant]

In fact, I think it's considered to have it show up pre-infection in the future.

[woeful hatch]

The fact that Yharim knows neither he nor Draedon recognize it fully

And Yharim and draedon haven't had any contact during our journey