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A smaller shield underneath idk
I mean
he's had 100 years
to heal up
and like
healing potions exist
so
not to mention that like yeah Surgery is a entirely fair possibility
also I uh
Mechanical sweat.
i imagine yharim's armor is probably ventilated
because fighting while sweating balls is generally not good
Draedon is even when in crusade had nanobots (look at plague) really far past irl tech
So i dont see the issue of replacing sweat glands
Vent? Like Among Us?
like its actually just straight up a advantage in a fight id say even if mostly a minor one
Not to mention
it's just more comfortable lol
in a world where draedon and magic exists i refuse to believe he still looks like he's been deep fried
Wait, well ventilated armour? The merchant must have stolen one of Yharim's spares.
being uncomfortable can have a impact so the 2 options are either just eliminating the source of discomfort or locking the fuck in and getting used to it
And while by all means
yharim can and would do the latter
vader yharim is a cool aesthetic though, i can't deny that
if he has access to the former
So a believer in Yharim looks like Ganondorf Theory?
might aswell
i believe in yharim looks like that one guy from fire force that i dont know the name of theory
except like with longer red hair
and darker skin
liquid cooled
with cosmilite
yeah no this is yharim to me
how would you know
Snake?
strong as fuck too
ths literally just yharim
hes called Leonard Burns apparently
ive never watched fireforce but ive seen this guy be posted and was lke
yep
thats yharim
Just as creative a name as most things in Calamity, he should be in the lore.
I liked the Ganondorf designs.
i didn't mean it like that but sure
theres also slime god
i think hes supposedly a twink pre-ascencion .
Too slimy.
genderflui
Gender slime.
let old characters be old vro you dont gotta turn everything into a twink ......
old but gold ahh
you have two already !
Hitting Gerson and Permafrost with the beam.
we have enough old men
Age ray
Making Calamitas an old man.
character improvemnet
How to beat yharim in 3 steps.
- Acquire aging beam
- Bring aging beam to his location
- Zap him with it
Easy win
No need to fight you just age him like a few decades and he just dies
What if it makes him young?
Well then you die
New plan: gun.
Does yharim have nanomachines that harden in response to physical trauma
No, but Draedon does.
Would imagine so since
Draedon
I think Yharim looks like a soyjak
And underneath his armor, he's wearing a T-shirt that says "I ❤️ DRAGONS"
Let people enjoy things.
Yharim probably looks like Vader after he got burnt
Nearly dying in lava cany be good for your looks
So not a Yharim looks like Ganondorf Theory believer?
No, we'll probably see what he looks like when the yharim update releases
What is it?
its like dream
The devs dont wanna afaik
Yharim has been warmongering for so long its basically a new layer of skin instead of a removable piece of armour
That he is always ready for war and battle even in times he should be calming down and stuff
Idk pulled that outa my ass
Plot twist, yharim isn't wearing a helmet, that's just what his face looks like
Chaos Space Marine moment 
devs confirmed there will never be a face reveal
Yharim legs reveal when?
tomorrow
If it ain't mettaton legs I dont care
I dont think they wanna reveal anything below armour
Facelessness to represent a lack of humanity.
Yharim i feel is definitely
Human
i don't think that's intentional
Metaphorical.
He's getting new designs, all keep the lack of eyes or defining facial features.
because it's too iconic, not because of any symbolism
Blue.
You're blue now.
we need yharim to take his helmet off unnecessarily all the time like mainstream media characters
SPECIALLY during battle because the audience must see the actor's face for some reason 
'Master Chief, mind telling me what you're doing in Calamity?'
'Sir, chicken nuggets.'
(I seriously don't think this)
(They seriously think this and are insane.)
I think yharim works best with helmet on because of this
he's barely human anymore and I think body language works well enough for this (the mandalorian and master chief are great examples of masked characters)
real
NOOO NOT YHARON
Yeah, what I was saying, not showing the face and eyes is a way to convey a lack of humanity, which further shows how far Yharim has gone in the pursuit of his goals that there's barely anything resembling humanity in him.
exactly
he mentioned once that getting thrown into lava with yharon left him scarred, so maybe if we ever see his face the lack of humanity could be reinforced with that
not sure what kind of tech calamity has to keep the wounds protected but like, darth vader only has his mask and a character from fallout I forgot his name has his head covered in bandages
that way we could see either a wounded face of only his eyes
I like the later because it's more menacing in a way
Could also be seen as that he has become nothing but the cause. So there is metaphorically nothing human underneath, only drive to continue the crusade.
yep
Could be an interesting contrast with my Terrarians: Yharim having a singular focus on his goal, versus the Terrarians largely not having any long-term goals or plans, just handling things as they happen until they start to realize "yeah, Yharim needs to be taken down", with my characters disagreeing with each other on "what else should be destroyed" and "what should be built after"
Yharim has a helmet because it's Darth Vader and aura
U guys r aware the whole lava thing pulled from old lore is just darth vader right
Im not starwars pilled enough to get almost all references to it
I rejected their whims, and upended their scheme. I was sentenced to execution for treason.
Their meek, ingratiated swine cast both Yharon's egg and I into the magma of Hell.
The intense heat hideously scarred me, but birthed Yharon anew. He rose, wreathed in fire and saved my life.
From that day, our souls were one.
The lava is in new lore too
That wasnt the argument…
Responding to this
I know
Part of it seems to be: "the whole lava thing pulled from old lore"
the lava isnt new
the lava is like the one thing they kept from old lore
like the specific action of yharim falling into lava and being rescued by yharon
and thats just, darth vader and its kinda funny
cuz hes just darth vader
That is like the most important detail carried over from old lore yea
I'm somewhat new to calamity, but I just beat Yharon. What counts as a god in this lore?
Darth vader but piss
Someone who did the ascension ritual on an auric soul
Killing yharon does not make you a god
I don't think it would've, I just feel like I don't know exactly who is and isn't a god atm
Like
I beat the Devourer of Gods, but is he a god? Or does he just eat them?
I mean, unless if his name is just a lie and he's a poser
But he himself is not a god
DoG eats them but has the ego to claim being one despite it being lies
-# also outdated as fuck dialogue from years before the current lore
Ohh
Yharim would have killed dog if so
Wait are all gods dead?
Like 95% of them thanks to yharim
ah
Cuz I know the lady who fell into the ocean was a dead god
I think that's what she did
Or cursed it or some shit
You on about anahita???
She is an elemental
That's Silva
yea yea that one
and still alive
but barely
Yharim killed her as good as is possible
wait so are there any gods that we DO encounter in calamity? Or any that we know are alive for that matter?
slime god, ravager and providence
we also know that xeroc is alive (they talk to us during the boss rush)
Slimegod
Providence the profaned goddess
Ravager is a zombified god
Hive mind and perferators are. Dead gods trying to come back
I see
ravager is a cringe ass god he was way too easy
real
ravager is the god of blood, and the resurrected form of agnus Immolatus - the god of sacrifice
providence is the goddess of ash
She wants to kill everyone
does yahrim read wings of fire
Idk
do you think he looks at queen scarlet and goes "that's so me"
what exactly is the player's motivation and/or goal in calamity?
Ah
D&D rules, it's up to you!
THE TERRARIAN
it's a little vauge but making stories is half the fun of this mod
(but they don't have to be)
I always felt with base game terraria I was just killing a bunch of random things in consecutive order as well, calamity has me feeling bad abt killing leviathan so often
she's lke the last of her kind she's just chillin ;0;
well, anahita could've created her
we mercilously cut her down. and for what? a rock!?
but again we don't know
Is Yharim planned to be a regular goober like the Terrarian and calamitas or is he gonna be a big guy boss fight?
i kinda hope he's a big guy boss fight >u>
yea
a little taller than you
probs not lore friendly but i think it'd be sick
Yharim is like 8-9 foot tall
So 4-4.5 blocks tall
but still a shrimp compared to draedon 
yahrim's in a rare camp of people who are taller than me AND FOR THAT HE MUST DIE
YOU CAN SIMPLY KILL PEOPLE YOU'RE ALLOWED TO DO THAT
true
-# please do not actually kill people taht was a joje
are you 7'3"
6'3 ;u;
Pisscord shitting itself
I used to be self conscious about my hight but now that it's one of my partners' favorite things about me i feel less weird
yeag discord's having a moment ;o;
might be a regional thing? I've been relativly unaffected here in NZ
From someone in a different server discord may be getting ddos’d???
ah what a pain ;0;
what's the use of DDOSing discord anyway?
like It's just a messaging app, I remember when people used to hit people offline via asking for skype to get a leg up in a game, but like there's no obvious benifit here
To be a jerk, what other reason is needed for some?
hi me too!!
Taller than me? Impossible! There must be a lore reason for this!
lore reason is the milk thing is bullshit. barely drank any as a kid and look where i am now 😎
tallest woman in my circles
i even outgrew my brother which i am pettily proud of >u<
Being tall is awesome
Except I don't want to be noticed
And that makes it pretty hard to do
I think it's no big thing. every time a stranger says something about my hight it's envy or a compliment >u<
also be noticable! live your truth it's the only way to be
*if it's safe to
i have terrible social and general anxiety to the point where I wear a facemask at school because I don't want people to see my face
been there girl ;0;
I have disabilities and psychological issues that make leaving my house a bad time ;u;
i promise it's worth it, as scary as it is sometimes. do what you gotta to get out ad about when you can 🫂
anxiety sucks
sure does x_x
My anxiety has been bad for the last 3 months to the point that i had to go see a doctor to see if it wasn't something else and that is taking forever to get done all the testing lol
luckily i don't have social anxiety just regular stuff (unless it's doing presentations lol i can't do those)
oh yea hell no >u<
public speaking's a nightmare. I can barely speak loud enough in public to order take away ;0;
I like online/phonecalls a lot. the pysical distance helps with feeling ok enough to speak legibly
Interesting how the mind does that.
mini panic attacks please stop going brrrr
totally lore accurate to calamity
especially when the stress feature used to be a thing
yahrim in his social anxiety arc >u<
Oh, wait, I can salvage this... uh... Calamitas probably scared of Yharim!
as most children are of their groomers yes
scal even tried to kill us because we were too like yharim in her opinion
I mean, we killed and stole our way to power.
tbh totally understandable crashout @u@;
Hell, Yharim was actively trying to make us Yharim 2 she had a good reason.
draedon should fight us himself he is like 20ft tall he would win (ignore the fact that he is built like a twig and would probably be blown away in the wind)
Yeah, but he has nanomachines, son.
the tardigrade legs were 100% optimal he swears
he can drop kick you
nah i'd win
not when he has a gun
My my little pony autisim is stronger than his science and war mech autisim. EZ sweep
Summon both Exo Mechs and Supreme Witch, Calamitas at the same time should make Calamitas ignore you, break the Draedon drone, and leave.
scal fights exo mechs and loses
How many of these words are in the bible?
I think she'd win.
is, stronger, my, than, his, and, war are all definitly in the bible probably
sweep might be
a couple few but prolly not in that order >u<;
Yeah, I don't recall Jesus saying that to Judas or anything.
he did
wym Jesus was histories biggest dash fan
That's the blue one, right?
sonic?
Wouldn't he like the orange one, who works hard and is humble?
Lore accurate bible picture
rainbow dash 😭
Did you have that on hand?
no im just a speedy googler :3
kiwi is a my little pony fan i would imagine
It's an iconic image from the fandom tho.
no that's a googlerler
i use search engines small enough to not prioritize user retention over search results.
if i actually did use google it prolly would've taken me a hot sec >_>;
First result on Google for 'Jesus holding Rainbow Dash' is that image.
i stand corrected
clearly an ai generated imagine
And also one with the orange one.
applejack?
No, it's the very same one that was posted.
Who is Yahrim's favorite pony and why is it starlight glimmer
it's clearly the villian
Who?
yharim's favorite pony is none because they are too small to carry him
tldr: horse who enslaved a town by taking away their individuality.
Then no.
he can only ride on clydales or the other big horse
Yharim's anti-slavery, nominally.
slavery is a big no no for yharim
nah nah she did it in the coersive way he'd be chill with not by like enslaving them.
they're there by their own choice :3
Was it by brainwashing?
all they have to do is give up their cutie marks and do the job they're assigned and live peacefully in the town where everyone is happy and smiles all the time :D
I don't know the lore of a tv show for five year olds, but I feel like that's mind control.
Luckily i do know the lore of the tv show for 5 year olds. It's closer to indoctrination? though arguibly the same thing >_>;
they've still got free will but in the coersive way where you face consiquences for going agaisnt the regime
much like yahrim's MO
we actually dont know enough about yharims ordeal in governing to say thats like, his mo
cuz ultimately following gods is a pretty specific crime if you weren't already doing it, and if you were you're dead
Given what we do know, I think his distaste for slavory's a cope.
he couldv ebeen literally fine with basically everything as long as it didnt involve gods
He was probably a slave before.
we mean nothing in game really suggests it
we knoew its been said by devs blike
hes just very mad about it and all he says is that he is because he was threatened with something sorta but not really akin to slavery
Which is why he uses manufactured consent. it's a layer of plausible deniability/cognitive dissonence that lets him functionally enslave people into military service without ever actually enslaving them.
don't join the crusades? you and your loved onces face consiquences
Yeah, Calamitas was all but a slave and all that.
slavery is very important when its about bees
of course.
always remember that bees r majestic and you shouldnt slave them
we do think he lowkey does like bees because like
he doesn't give a shit about the turtles
he doesnt give a shit about the bats
just the bees
I always thought he liked bees because they obey their leader.
the most relevant
a little funny THATS where he drew the line and not like mashing hs soldiors into war mech amalgamations >u>;
yharim doesnt go on a long monologue over derpling rights
Hey, they consented to that!
Sure they did! i beleive him :D
It's a soliloquy, we hung up on him.
true
yharim doesn't give you his dissertation on the way plague impacts the angry trapper population
I don't exactly trust dreadon's word on that either, because i don't think he has a concept of consent. Going so far as to remove it from future iterations entirely >_>;
Nobody could love an Angry Trapper.
he's just ohhh beees are SO MAjestic we HATE people who inflict harm upon them and 20 hours of gameplay later he's going well fuck draedon because, the bees, he hurt the bees
maybe if they're a COWARD
Reminds me of my screwed up Future Boss Calamitas concept.
oh yea? do tell :0
draedons not stupid its just an idgafer
yharim also had to approve his military projects back then so
being smart does not mean you understand or respect consent ;u;
draedons just objective guy
he knows. he just has no morals
Behold, screwed up Future Boss idea I had once.
Scohn Jience my beloved
obviously understands what things r it just dont give a shit to it
yharims prolly not lying on that one cuz its very whatever
yharims definitely lying though whenever he gas himself up
I believe it was mentioned that Yharim kept trying to flatter Draedon with compliments on his work or something.
if yharim is gassing himself on a lore item you can assume the rest is false too
this is because yharim is a fraud
I don't think Yharim ever intentionally lies outside of by omission. However, his world view is so biased that everything he says must be considered to be leaning in his favour, even when he's criticising himself.
we mean hes like
at the end hes like and then i did a genocide terrarian arent i so fucking good
so its rlly funny cuz he just dont lie about that
k so dumb clearifying question
i did the genocide and it was good! okay yharim lets put you to bed
hes like a 120 hes dying in a year
why doesnt the terrarian just wait
130+ I believe.
i don't remember if calamity has hallow lore. is the hallow also remnents of a god?
Yes.
But Yharim refuses to comment.
God of joy and whimsy
God of Gay.
no wonder he won't say anything, he literally killed gay.
world's least homophobic man
fought gays too
LITERALLY
we think the hallow thing falls a little ngl
like the assumption is that the hallow god was like joyous and wholesome
except the hallow is like pixie forest land
its not rlly a good place
Corpse of the Gay God is not happy.
so it like falls flat unless its meant to be that the joyous holesome god was actually tricky
but then that means yharim was also right about that one
so its like wdk
do u get us
joy whimsy
I know. it's just funny to speculate >u>
I like the idea the hallow was the remnent of a fea-ish god. it would fit will with the fantastical mythological creatures being both kinda cute and equally dangerous
also, fairies, pixies, unicorns, all very fea coded
Nobody in the Hallow has tried to scam me yet, what a ripoff.
well yeah because thats just what it is in vanilla canon
its literally just pixie fae tricky trickster land
which is why it was contained by wof in the first place
its not a corrupting, actively evil force but it's still not rlly a benevolent one and the world is better off without it
It's like, an overcorrection for the evils in the original lore I think.
eya
but i like unicorns. even when they want to kill me ;-;
The hallow is skill issue land. if you can't cut it in the fea wild examin youself before some clever prick steals your pronouns and family history
Where is it spelt as 'fea'? I've never heard of the fairies being referred to as that.
I think that was just a misspelling of fæ
Nerd.
Also, maybe the Hallow was the remnants of good, benevolent gods, who became cynical and/or vengeful because of Yharim's crusade
As I said;
idk how to spell it lore acurately ;u;
Calamity does in fact refer to it as 'Fae'.
i also mix up the a and the e a lot >_<
I know but in a handful of other mythos and media, the hallow's denizens are frequently associated with nebulous concept of feawild
Or wait, maybe that was Terraria.
Feet
Ok, it is Terraria, in base Terraria lore she's actually a goddess. "Beneath the Hallow's cleansing blanket lies a vengeful fae goddess bent on scrubbing the land of any and all impurity."
So nevermind, Calamity does in fact not refer to is as 'Fae'.
the nefarious empress of light
the hallow is actually duke onkled on a neverending quest to scrub all the floors in hyrule, he was reincarnated as the universe itself in order to scrub all the floors in terraria
he simply went mad after reaching goron city, no matter how hard he scrubbed the floors simply would not be clean
those words arent in the bible
hello chat
hello gloomborf gorthus yaoi
why did u delete ur idea
oh ok
how should i foreshadow xeroc beyond requiem (and the one before it) without his appearance feeling like a deus ex machina
for the idea i have for the story, xeroc comes in before noxus kills the main protag (and after killing yharim) and kills them before pissing off. while they're talked about by yharim, i want to have a bit more scenes with them so it doesn't feel like some rando coming in and solving everything
though i really don't see how the main protag and yharim could beat noxus without xeroc coming in so like
ideas i had are
- he's shown after each protag's death, not really talking but just observing them before they move on
- the terminus is used to go to the aerie, and when the protag uses it xeroc talks about it
i'm not including the boss rush so
yap
rude
yep
freddys gonna get your ass
id let him
💥
I wonder, now that I think about it, why does the slime god attack us if he's so cowardly?
Lore wise I mean
If I had to guess, considering he's a god he probably just underestimated the player
they rocked up like "damn thats a mini yharim lemme lock in and beat his ass, imagine the aura id gain from doing so. i'll post the fight afterwards"
Then five seconds later bros like "nvm i ain't posting that shit i got my ass beat"
But for an actual answer: i swear i heard someone in here say it was precognition of the player being like Yharim, and also probably just underestimation and being reckless (this is all probably wrong tho lol)
We dont know and any answer is theories
We do have an answer
legit read their lore
They’re smart, they know when they can and cannot win fights, that’s why they survived the purge of the gods when yharim was killing them all. They’re evasive and know how to avoid situations that can kill them, which is why they run away when you beat them, they know they can’t win whatsoever
Reread my question again
that was not the question though
I asked why they fight us in the first place
I mean, the slime GOD isn’t fighting
The slime god is the actual core
Knowing "I can win a fight" isn't really justification to get in a fight
I mean he sends his main protectors to fight us
That's like
Essentially fighting us
Why would he attack us randomly
would it really be randomly from a lore standpoint??
You summon them, it’s more likely you do something to enrage them
The fact is that from a lore standpoint summon items aren't canon most of the time
ah, ok
Didn’t know that
So then we’ll assume they’re attacking us for a reason
Well, you did kill the perforator/hive mind before the slime god most likely
Yes
A reason we don't know
Which is why I asked the question "what is the reason"
And the point of the slime god is to keep balance in the world between those, maybe killing them made the slime god mad??
They don't keep balance just between those (especially because those biomes are made entirely because of yharim), they try to keep balance in the whole world
Right, just read that
I’m reading through Reddit and such to get more on them, but not really seeing much
most of the bosses make sense as to why they attack you, especially in hard mode
But now I don’t really see what slime god would want from the player
Maybe that’s something the devs will open up on eventually
we'll probably get that from statis
statis??
the last follower of slime god
ah I’ve never heard of the guy
will become a travelling merchant-type npc in the future
the lore mentions him a few times
Ohh interesting
I’m still reading through it right now
it’s a lot lmao
👍 yeah
He's a ninja of the onyx kinsmen (a clan which worships the slime god), and he tried attacking Yharim alongside Braelor, only to get thwarted by DOG. We can make his ninja belt and later, void sash
Also he's Braelor's boyfriend
Oh i See
Who’s Braelor?
One of the followers of Silva, who even had his axe made by her (and that process is what inspired Draedon on how to make Thanatos' armor), and one of the most powerful warriors, who's done deeds compared to the ones done Calamitas and Yharim (by Yharim himself)
Also he's Statis' boyfriend
Here's their concept art (you can figure out which is which lol)
Nothing like a gay badass
Oh I KNOW that axe is heavy as fuck
Turns out we're not the only person with improperly large weapons
Lmao
I love how ranged class is like 90% of the time the only one with normal sized weapons
Oh also I forgot, and idk if it's still valid in current lore, but signus may be another figure revered by the onyx kinsmen
But I'm not sure if that's still true
I see I see
it is true
hes gay 👎
He's just a slimy little guy!
ive said this before and i have no disdain or critiques for lore writers in this regard because i'm well aware that we'll 100% get more info on him later - I won't criticize the lack of content in a unfinished project, i'll save my critiques for unsatisfaction with what is here
But on that note
That does not excempt me from being a slime god hater in the state he's currently in
he SUCKS.
Like he'll be better later i have no doubts
But currently hes a fraud.
Potential Slime will be great once he gets that tier change!
god worshipped by the kinsmen, including statis, who will probably be one of our strongest allies
attacks us for no reason. dosen't ever elaborate on why, dosen't try talking, nothing.
runs away.
attacks us for no reason AGAIN.
fucking dies
I've seen the proposal that it's like calamitas
but lke. ATLEAST CALAMITAS STOPS
like she realizes. wait no that's dumb. and chills out
this mfer fights until the very end, dosen't ever elaborate as to WHY he's fighting us, Leaves. and then COMES BACK TO TRY IT AGAIN AND THEN DIES
'He has the potential to rival Providence! Just wait until he gets that tier change! He just got unlucky, if he could he'd beat Yharim!'
It's why i have vehemently went against the notion that "slime god is a good guy" before
which was far more prevalent in this chat before i started actually presenting my stance against it lol
Like unless major changes are done to slime god and the context around it in future update, which i do acnowledge as a possibility
He's just not a good guy
He jumps us for no reason and then does it again
And even if it was like misjudgement on its part
Bro its ok. we can talk. we can just talk bro. you can let me know what i did wrong. you dont gotta jump me twice and then die for it.
So... spareable Slime God?
I think slime god, with what's currently is ingame
is at most just a neutral (and kind of stubbornly stupid) figure
Which, again, i'm aware can and will likely change as we get more info and the context around the fight and plotline with slime god itself will likely change
No. Die
Goku?
thanks slime god
Slime God is hungry, let them cook
What if Slime God's real name was Slimon G. Od?
All is fleeting and all will end, but I...
Is DoG a god? or is he something different?
He's not a god.
grug
He's a giant serpent from another dimension.
When he calls himself a god, it's not because he is one, it's because he's a narcissist.
A eulogy for it is in order.
bitchass worm
word. I just read about the ‘yharim thought whatever it ate was completely erased, but it was just transferred from one form to another’, and i thought that was implying that he gained godlike powers/ became a god
perhaps he's a funny tube
It's probably being sent to his true master.
who is..?
The only way to become a god is to ascend with an Auric Soul.
Noxus.
Probably, unless Boxus, his secret brother is real.
know your cosmic worms
STAR worm?
friend.
polite.
eats bad evil stars for you.
you CAN give it a kissy on its forehead.
DISTORTION worm?
asshole.
rude.
eats gods and people and etc.
can't shut up about how he's the coolest fucking motherfucker ever, cries when hes humbled
who tf is noxus i thought i knew shit about this mods lore
Has a hive mind.
thats all we know
Not the boss.
this why we need quote bot
Imagine it as a purple rock for now
Noxus is a figure from the distortion, dosen't have much of a presence in the mod yet besides vague implications towards it and the fact it's likely really fucking strong, given it's *Potentially planned to be one of the two superbosses in the mod's future
so is noxus on our side or yharims side or independent third party?
Devourer serves it in some capacity
Latter
Third party.
independent third
Yep
word
Devourer is technically on Yharim's side but
It's really just a mutual benefit alliance
Is likely dangerous to everyone, but we don't really know much about them.
and even Yharim could tell that Devourer's true allegiance never lied within him, as he himself says
Yharim never liked the Devourer, but he was extremely helpful, so
is that in the lore item?
Personally, I think DoG isn't loyal to anyone, even Noxus, because he's a narcissist.
Don't know where it is exactly but i think so
Yes.
the name "Noxus" isn't even directly mentioned ingame
Just like Xeroc, never mentioned by name.
tbf neither is agnus
Agnus temple soon
Agnus probably will eventually i feel
Slime God has a name, but nobody mentions it either.
I think it's just the lack of ingame implementation currently
while for Noxus it feels more intentional
We don't even know what it is.
oh yeah agnus will definitely have something eventually
who’s agnus?
Ravager.
god of sacrifice
Ravger
ohhh
But not zombie
God of Sacrifices, got killed and his dead body was ressurected as Ravager
wait so like ravaged but before we see it
ravager is the god of blood and the revived corpse of agnus
He's a pretty tragic figure
i see
He has concept art.
that’s pretty dark
He’s a chill guy
He was genuinely just a really nice person
The name "God of Sacrifices" and the fact he's. fucking Ravager now might paint a bad image on your head
But his domain of "Sacrifices" entailed more so
God of (Self) Sacrifice, to be more specific.
the fact he sacrificed himself for his people, per example, literally feeding them pieces of his flesh because of its immense healing properties
he may look a bit strange but he's chill
Made some guy go insane, oopsy daisy.
And then there’s the third eye
Where’d you find all the lore about him being a god of sacrifices and feeding his ppl his flesh
Here.
DAMN that looks sick
he was killed by Yharim (Which, iirc, specifically because Yharim went "If you don't let me kill you, then i'll kill your followers", so he let Yharim kill him to protect his ppl)
so is that design canon?
a fitting final deed for the god of self sacrifice
And then some time later a subsection of his worshippers that had went insane revived him as a necromantic, mindless beast that is the Ravager we know
yes
Yeah, unless it gets tweaked, but probably gonna look like that.
Unlikely to get some massive redesign.
the mod is Unfinished As Fuck and alot of the lore isn't properly implemented yet
So there's alot of little bits of info not ingame atm
He could use something similar to those Draedon log item to sneak that design in
Anyway, they turned him into a zombie so you gotta kill him again.
when/what was the last big update? i play calamity like once a year for a playthrough or 2
Putting him out of his misery atp
It was like, almost a year ago by now i think
Over a year ago I think.
last decently large update was bountiful harvest iirc
Next update is *soon.
which yeah was a while ago
but sunken sea overhaul 1 is soon
sunekn sea overhaul is probably this year or early next year
And it's
basically just
the Calamity Overhaul at this point tbh 😭
Single biggest update the mod has ever seen
and is the first update that will actually modernize alot of aspects of it
because calamity was stuck in a state where it just
i forget if the ravager design is public
wasn't up to the standard of quality set by current tmod in many ways
partially because Fabsol
There's concept art that's public.
Don't think there's like, a finished sprite or anything though?
that’s so hype
i'd say the most modern part of calamity currently are mostly some of its weapons and gear
And with the problem gone, future updates should be higher quality.
Like i can't lie, yeah
some of those are admittedly
really well made even rn
but stuff like bosses, biomes, enemies... not as much lmao
mostly anyways
some of the like structures are pretty good
modern ravager art
also for such a heavily story-focused mod it dosen't have very good lore implementation yet, by far the best probably being draedon communication
And then you have post-Moon Lord progression.
I think the brimstone crags are really well done, i love the aesthetic
They're probably getting revised.
crag overhaul Soon™
Too be even better.
I think they tweaked the antler a bit too
to fit agnus
(in like 4 major updates)
brimstone crags are a standout atleast in terms of aesthethics yeah, but the biome itself is really small and dosen't offer much + enemies are kind of Lame
But they are getting a complete overhaul eventually
will be much bigger, have sub-biomes like the abyss
Gonna have proper ruins there, other than bridges.
yaya
Evidently, the Azafurians freaking loved bridges.
wait so did calamitas destroy azafure or was that someone else
she did, albeit accidentaly, alongside brim elemental
iirc the only act of razing that cal did solo was ilmeris and that was over the course of like a full month
She was like a 13 year old, brimmy wakes up and attacks azafure, she tries protecting her family but gets a sudden uncontrollable surge of power she's never had before, fight ensues, azafure is destroyed by brimmy and calamitas's uncontrollable destruction
I keep hearing conflicting numbers for how long it took.
so why was the brimstone elemental attacking azafure?
wait no it was 3 weeks
No one is sure.
We don't know yet but it likely has to do with her just being disturbed by extensive mining of brimstone
There are other possibilities though
Most Elementals are violent, though, except Silva.
i see. so that happens, azafure is destroyed, then calamitas joins Yharims army for a bit?
Fabsol State
Yeah she gets groomed.
Metamorphosis into Ozzaform
Into a weapon.
She joins Yharim's army, gets a cool dad
more that yharim found a young, vulnerable, very powerful girl
But then Yharim manipulates her into being his Nuclear Bom b
Then a few years later she realizes that Yharim is making her do horrible things and starts seeing through his lies and go. nvm. and leaves
She now really hates yharim and has like basically ptsd regarding him
So, around when she's 17 by my count.
I s had a point of confusion w her and Permafrost in Yharims army. Did Permafrost leave first and she follow, or did she leave and Permafrost follow?
The former
Permafrost first.
Calamitas is sent to kill him.
She Snowgraves him instead.
She goes and hides in a cave for 12 years.
reminder that cal is really good with all magic, its just that she specialises in brimstone and necromancy
meaning stick him in cryogen?
Yes.
Permafrost left and she left after, Yharim basically sent her to Kill Her Dad
I like to think that she was likely already incredibly doubtful and didn't really want to be a part of the Yharmy anymore at that point but was afraid of the consequences, but being asked to literally kill her adoptive dad which she clearly loved alot was just, the straw that broke the camels back
It was done to NOT kill him.
Yeah that's what I think.
Keep in mind it's basically confirmed t hat Cal left the army before she was even a fully grown adult
she probably was around 17 or so
yharmy is funny
Ilmeris would make most second guess their morals, but being told to kill her dad was too far for anyone.
If Yharim had a navy, would we call it the Yharmada?
locking him up so that yharim doesn't see an incomplete job and hunt her but not actually hurting permafrost
basically ^
Absolutely.
It's
very possible that it was consensual too
Like
i'd 100% believe
that perma was the one that convinced scal to do it
basically going, well you don't want to kill me, but if you don't, they'll go after you
I like to think that Scal decided to do it but Perma was the one that convinced her
It'd explan the
tearful confrontation wording
The way i see it the idea was to keep him in there until Yharim was no longer a danger
I also think that she and Perm also had a bit of a discussion about how far Yharim's crusade had gone, basically both agreeing that it had gone too far
yeah most likely
I think he gave her hot chocolate before the fight.
Why was Yharim shattered across space & time? Did he fall into his own creation?
Is he listening?
did that actually happen to yharim? i thought he was waiting for us at dragons aerie
I'm making a reference.
But you're correct, he is.
In the Dragon's Aerie, that is.
Who’s the fifth guy
i know about wingding but i just didn’t know if it happened to yharim too
DoG (he hates everyone.)
I think i might drawover this but donkey Kong said I can’t draw calamitas
D-Donkey Kong?
Who what?
i have some questions about the dragon cult. do they worship yharon (& in turn yharim) or is it just dragons in general? what’s the guide talking about when he says there’s something in the dungeon that can lead us to another world? Is that going to be the dragons aerie?
oh also is there a different between dragons and Dragons
there's auric dragons (dragons with auric souls) and offshoots like fishrons and whatever bumblefuck is
They worship dragons in general and allign themselves with Yharim due to their similar beliefs, even if not the exact same
and as for what's in the dungeon
They love Dragons.
ceaseless void
the "lead us to another world" is ceaseless void
it'll be the gateway to the distortion
The portal is to the Distortion.
its a stable portal to the distortion
hi
distortion adventures coming Soon™
Dragons are usually used to refer to Auric Dragons, which have special souls.
Worth noting Yharim and the dragon cult have fallen out with eachother though
The others are known as draconic offshoots.
They don't have special souls.
Hello.
Mainly due Yharim neglecting them help when they needed it most (Polterghast), as he was entirely focusing on the crusade and neglecting his other responsibilities, possibly due to DoG's influence
I'd say i feel bad for them given alot of them probably got Mauled by poltergahst but then i remember they're horrible actually and go nvm
The cult never worshipped Yharim, but they used to be his friends, until he abandoned them when they needed him.
^ ye
so who exactly were the gods that yharim was waging war against? and why? ik this is like a super basic lore question but brain isn’t braining rn
All of them.
The ones he went after first was Dogma and probably followed by War.
But ALL of them were his targets.
evil ones like dogma
morally graey ones like providence
good ones like agnus
every last one of them
a few managed to evade his genocide
Providence is not 'morally gray' in the slightest.
good motive bad method
so why did he want to kill them all?
My favourite morally gray historical figure: Mecha Hitler.
providence is like as far from morally gray as it can get ill be real
Vengeance.
It's a long story
But it can all be boiled down to ignorance, a misplaced sense of self-righteousness and a desire for vengeance
God of Dogma tried to make him God-King and rule as a puppet. When he refused, he was cast into magma. Yharon saved him, told him his sob story, and they began hunting them all. Yharim also was probably a slave at one point.
Refusal to accept that his ways are wrong and that his ideology is flawed, even when it clearly is
Oh, wait, this is a good time for the handy dandy war crime chart! It's been a while.
So is Yharim a regular old terrarian like us? or at least did he start out as one?
Gods do bad things to him and yharon, he decides to kill gods for justice, but even as his methods become completely immoral and he kills thousands of innocents for it and when he's confronted with the reality that not all gods are bad people and some were incredibly kind, he still thinks he's fighting for a righteous cause
Probably.
Yharim is biologically, just a regular human, yes
Here's the motives and crimes.
Not a god, elemental, demon, anything like that
he's like peak human
he's just a guy
but he's still a human
i love this image its so fucking stupid
Thank you.
that fourth one is Permafrost right?
Yeah.
he also has access to auric metal which is pretty big
yeah so what exactly is auric metal is it just the ore of the gods
Ore of the Dragons.
Not gods.
They don't like it.
word
Permafrost and Calamitas are like basically unarguably the only two people who were a part of the yharmy who are actually good people and who one could reasonably forgive
Everyone else is fucked up to some extent
his is significantly stronger than yours because he's actually attuned to a dragon
But i thought if someone consumed an Auric soul they became a god? how does that work if Auric stuff is dragon related?
while you just shaved bits of a dragon's auric soul off to make it not instantly kill you upon contact
Yharim didn't consume the soul.
Since otherwise Yharon would die.
Since they're both alive, they did a secret third thing.
attunement to a dragon is a massive thing
That's what happens when the mod's unfinished and we can't make accurate guesses for crimeness.
So DoG somehow ends up looking innocent.
Relatively.
ohhhh wait so. when we fight Yharon we just get tiny crumbs of auric to use for our gear? why can’t we just absorb the Auric soul?
We need a ritual
We don't know how.
And it's harder to do it with Yharon because his soul runs away.
dragon of rebirth is a bit harder to get your hands on
He's the dragon of rebirth, so specifically his soul immediately returns to the Dragon aerie hwen he dies
ohhhhh
"gods" ascend in calamity by using a long-forgotten ritual used by everybody else years ago, also, Yharon is the Dragon of Rebirth, and is automatically placed back at the Dragon Aerie upon death

he sacrifices small bits of his soul to stay alive
So he screws off to the Dragon's Aerie.
This dosen't apply to any other dragons, just him, bc of the way his powers work
All the others needed him to revive.
so you'd have to kill him a few hundred times to actually get the full soul to ascend with
Are there any other Dragons we see/fight/whatever in game?
absorbing Yharon's soul would require you to venture to the Aerie to absorb it while he's still a weak little stupid egg baby + Would need you to actually know the ritual
They're all dead.
all the dragons are dead
Auric dragons? No, they're literally all dead except Yharon
but Dragons in general yeah
Old Duke and Primordial Wyrm
Unless one's hiding on the moon or something. I doubt that though, due to Moon's Haunted Theory.
offshoots are a thing but there's no more auric souls to go around
Who killed all the Auric Dragons? was is the gods so they could absorb their powers?
The gods.
I think they considered having the corpse of one be frozen in the tundra, maybe?
A dragon corpse, not a god corpse. We have plenty of those.
yeah the gods and their groups were the ones who killed the dragons
for example, providence and her guardians
To be more specific
Killed Ridley Dragon of Flame.
im sure there were a few warriors strong enough to solo a dragon
Dragons can rebirth thanks to Yharon, so while they died plenty before, they only started dying permanently
- During the fight against Moon Lord, which had some sort of ability that caused it to make them Die For Real. This cut down their numbers significantly
Most dragons were weaker than Yharon. Only one, actually, was stronger.
Lunar Bite debuff is real.
- After the fight with Moon Lord, Xeroc ascended with Zeratros's soul, and kickstarted the race to become gods amongst people who saw the ascencion, learned how to do it, then it spread to others and others and etc
These 2 events slowly caused the extinction of dragons
What’s the fight with the Moon Lord? are you talking about the fight we do or is there a historic lore fight?
Historic fight.
moon lord used to be way more powerful
Like, 800+ years ago.
took all of the dragons to manage to fight it off
Tossed him onto the moon.
oh that’s kind of like vanilla lore
Yeah, except instead of dryads it's dragons.
yes
And he's not Cthulhu.
and also the lunatic cultist is holding the husk of fovos back in cal iirc
rather than trying to summon moon lord in vanilla
why’s it still called eye of cthulu?
Lunatic Cultist is arguably the main antagonist of Vanilla Terraria.
the terrarian sucks at naming things
fair
see: skeletron prime, miracle matter
Retinazor and Spasmatism went hard!
husk of fovos?
Fovos = Chrysadian name for Moon Lord
ohhh
Chrysadians = sky people
like harpies or different?
Former civilization that got wrecked by the Moon Lord
They probably had to fend off the Harpies a lot, like Azafurians fending off the demons of Hell
And no, Calamitas is not a demon.
Calamitas is a human right?
yeah
Yes.
was?
azafurians are humans who just adapted to hell
are there any living azafurians besides calamitas
I didn’t know whether her power buff during the brimstone elemental fight like detracted from her humanity or something
Yeah, but we don't know if there are any of the Azafurian race.
No, she kept her humanity, but what happened after made her feel terrible.
i know there's only one living ilmerian though
Secret Fishman:
Uh, Guide, Demolitionist and Tax Collector are all Azafurian, but not the race.
They either survived, or more likely were absent during the events... well, Tax Collector might have been there and simply... not survive.
But as a Tax Collector, he has no soul, so it's easy to bring him back.
Azafurian but not the race meaning they were born in Azafure to immigrant parents?
Born in Azafure, but they don't have horns and gray skin, so yeah could be immigrant parents.
They lived in Azafure but weren't the same brand of gray skinned people with little horns that calamitas is, so likely either immigrated or born from non-native azafurian parents
Like, Azafure probably had quite a bit of diversity.
Only one that we see tbf
Like
i heavily doubt Amidias is literally the Only One to be honest?
Secret Fishman:
Like i'm sure there's gotta be a few more that survived and escaped out there
yall think there were azafurians who wanted closed borders and were like lowkey racist
Probably.
They were an oligarchy, probably, not famed for open-mindedness.
Azafure was a manufacturing hub, seems like it'd be pretty mercantile
Azafure did literally ally themselves with yharim and were like his biggest supplier so there probably was like a considerable amount of racism in there just being real here
Something like the Italian merchant republics, but with manufacturing instead of maritime trade
like to put it bluntly they kind of were germany during ww2 which is to say not EVERYONE would've alligned themselves with super gold hitler but like the overall status of society woudl've led alot of people and the nation itself to be in support with super gold hitler
"So those punks on Azafure think they can live for free on my lands? Tell you what, do my job there and I might give you a bonus."
He wants to tax the Brimstone Elemental.
azafure was probably propagandized to oblivion with pro-yharim rhetoeric
so are Elementals there own kind of gang? do they have any alliances?
Rhetoric
One does.