#lore-discussion

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wanton pendant
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It's the secret one. Like the secret Chaos Elemental.

robust osprey
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maybe cal is just a magic sponge by nature

young socket
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literally just this image

tropic oak
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TRUE

robust osprey
wanton pendant
icy veldt
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Maybe Brimmy was feeling sad about her actions, but she didn't want to stop because of the sunk cost fallacy, so she gave some of her power to Cal so Cal could defeat her, as a form of atonement

cloud ibex
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there's a good meme on this about phones but i can't share it here unfortunately

limpid saddle
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We do believe the Brimstone suckling is a genetic feature

wanton pendant
icy veldt
wanton pendant
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Much better.

cloud ibex
limpid saddle
cloud ibex
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well

icy veldt
cloud ibex
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rule (singular)

wanton pendant
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Calamitas accidentally breathed in all the pollution fumes at once and became Super Sulphur form.

robust osprey
split mortar
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The fuck happening here

wanton pendant
limpid saddle
split mortar
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O

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Ok

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Actual lore

wanton pendant
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And I don't appreciate the idea of it being by 'suckling'.

robust osprey
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incredible

limpid saddle
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I remain firmly in the camp that both incidents were complete accidents & not at all intentional but some seem inclined to disagree

long bloom
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just brainrot

wanton pendant
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I'm saying we don't know.

robust osprey
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xzier I will rot your brain

real glen
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brain sucker

split mortar
long bloom
limpid saddle
wanton pendant
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I... guess that's better.

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Does she have a skeleton?

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Since, you know, being an embodiment of heat and sulphur?

long bloom
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she probably will in the resprite

limpid saddle
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given the direction is 'banshee' one can assume she will be skeletal in form

wanton pendant
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Banshees are ghosts?

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Not skeletons?

icy veldt
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Cal and Brimmy should hug to forgive each other 🥺

long bloom
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  • the scrapped hote sprite being skeletal
wanton pendant
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Unlikely.

long bloom
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  • devs talking about an exposed skull
limpid saddle
icy veldt
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How many eyes will Brimmy have? Still just one?

long bloom
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most likely

wanton pendant
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I liked the idea of it being two eyes that fuse into one.

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Makes them more inhuman.

cloud ibex
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i'm hoping for midra head brimmy but i think reb said she wants her to still have an eye

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cause brimmy being a watcher of sorts is important

limpid saddle
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also the cyclops look is pretty classic for brimmy

cloud ibex
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which does make me curious about what exactly she's doing

limpid saddle
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it's tied into her visual identity

wanton pendant
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Watching?

cloud ibex
young socket
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lurien the watcher

icy veldt
wanton pendant
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If classicness was the priority, Calamitas would still be an eyeball.

icy veldt
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Brimmy's other eye XD

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Like Monoculus in TF2

wanton pendant
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Is the Bombnomicon canon?

limpid saddle
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unlike Calamitas

wanton pendant
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I'm saying that they don't need to commit to using old design ideas because people are used to them.

icy veldt
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If Brim has a watcher theme, then she should have two eyes and be holding a pair of binoculars

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Maybe give her like a safari hat or something

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And an Australian accent when speaking

wanton pendant
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Then she'd be the Bi-Watcher and she'd spy on gay people. Probably a homophobe, Calamitas was right to fight her.

limpid saddle
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I wonder what direction they'd take a new fight theme for brimmy

cloud ibex
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elden ring dlc boss

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this guy

light linden
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I can not tell what that is

cloud ibex
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guy with a flaming ball for a head

wanton pendant
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What if he saw wrong?

cloud ibex
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what

wanton pendant
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Saw wrong.

icy veldt
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Does the Profaned Cult still exist, outside of the enemies we already encounter in-game?

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What if there were a post-Providence Profaned Cult invasion, as vengeance for killing their goddess?

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Legit question/idea, genuinely unrelated to anything feline

wanton pendant
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I mean, what do you consider part of the cult? Anything that is under Providence's influence, or the likes of the guardians who are willingly serving to some degree?

split mortar
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There is a profaned cult
Pretty sure the enemies are meant to be them trying to invade tho

icy veldt
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Doesn't she have people who worship her?

split mortar
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Yeah

icy veldt
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Darn, but I guess there could still be something like a vengeful massed invasion, maybe with a wider variety of enemies

wanton pendant
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Scorn Eater invasion.

split mortar
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One of the most worshipped due to preying on peoples hopelessness i think? Might be the voices tho

icy veldt
wanton pendant
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Scorn Feaster, Scorn Consumer, Scorn Devourer, the possibilities are endless!

split mortar
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Blue super buffed scorn eaters

icy veldt
wanton pendant
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I remember thinking about the idea of a Calamity Grand Strategy, and one of my ideas for an alt history path for Yharim would be the absolute most insane, nonsensical decision imaginable. Allying Providence.

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Runner up for insane ideas was allying Silva.

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Everything else was far more in character.

icy veldt
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I know my Terrarian would need to put more effort into fighting off Provi's whispers, since he's more vengeful/despair-prone than most

untold oracle
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Providence infinity snake eternal flame canon

wanton pendant
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It was kind of a 'What if Yharim really decided he hated EVERYTHING and Providence seemed like someone who could help him make it happen'.

split mortar
untold oracle
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Death

icy veldt
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Also, given how character-driven it is, Calamity would better fit an RTS+RPG like the Dawn of War games, than a GSG like EU4/HoI4

icy veldt
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NO

wanton pendant
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Yes, just gotta figure out how to play HoI4.

icy veldt
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Calamity DoW2 mod 👍

untold oracle
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Sovereign canon in calamity mod when?? Markiplier

wanton pendant
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Other paths were like, don't betray anyone path, god-king path, both a betray the leaders and submit to them version of that one.

split mortar
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Add ebonia to calamity

wanton pendant
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What?

split mortar
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I will not elaborate

untold oracle
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Lea is canon terrarian

untold oracle
wanton pendant
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I think your computer just sucks.

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And it was like, 105 I think.

long bloom
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unless there's some month fuckery going on

brazen swallow
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sounds right to me
enough time for yharim to get desperate and do things

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and for draedon to progress in tech

fierce pagoda
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thats like, a whole human life!

wanton pendant
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So, 106 years since it ended, but it probably ended last year.

long bloom
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for simplicity, i assume he left at the beginning of 1887 and the game starts a few months later

long bloom
brazen swallow
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ye

wanton pendant
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We know it's not been a full year since Draedon saw Yharim, but I was edging along the line of it was 1886 when he left, and thus the end of the crusade. It could be the same year, which makes it one hell of a year, and I think it pushes up against Birthday Theory.

long bloom
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that makes more sense

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i'll edit that in

wanton pendant
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Edit it in to what?

long bloom
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my timeline

wanton pendant
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That makes sense.

tropic oak
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bro has a timeline

split mortar
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I think you three are all trying to find out the timeline lol

wanton pendant
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The one issue I have is that the year 1875 has a LOT of stuff happening, if I'm calculating things right.

limpid saddle
visual kiln
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timeline

icy veldt
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Some years are more eventful than others

heavy zenith
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I need to remake it because my dumb ass forgot to put music in the background 💀

wanton pendant
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Might take me a bit to get through that hour long video.

icy veldt
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A Calamity lore Youtube video maker... here?!?!?!

heavy zenith
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I only have 2 up, 1 of which needs to be remade LOL.

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I wanna do a bestiary read through, an Ilmeris deep dive. I have a lot of ideas

wanton pendant
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Those may have to wait until after SSO, where both are being overhauled.

light linden
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@wanton pendantyour fate will soon be decided

wanton pendant
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Oh, also, Terrarian has extremely little lore intentionally, as they're a self-insert. Terrarian will never have concrete lore past that, sans being bad at naming things. That's absolutely canon.

wanton pendant
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Yeah that's what I said.

split mortar
wanton pendant
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Perfectly balanced, as all things should be.

split mortar
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Nvm someone made a neutral positive

light linden
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@wanton pendantyour fate has been decided

wanton pendant
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I gathered.

light linden
split mortar
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A new one joins us

wanton pendant
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I wonder who that could be.

wheat walrus
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Another one in the mold

split mortar
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A fate unavoidable

icy veldt
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I have more than one Terrarian, in my own head-lore, because I like interpersonal character dynamics

wanton pendant
wanton pendant
wheat walrus
split mortar
wheat walrus
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The Babakonga stands unyielding

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The Babakonga dreams of a world clear of mold and full of hope

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The Babakonga dreams of a world unlike ours

thick slate
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hey omni i found a thing called omnibus

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and thought of you

split mortar
wheat walrus
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omnibus

thick slate
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actually a street

split mortar
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omnibus

wheat walrus
icy veldt
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Dative/ablative plural form of omnis

wheat walrus
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Me street

split mortar
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Egg why are you a bus

wheat walrus
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uhhmmm

icy veldt
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Omnis, omnes
Omnis, omnium
Omni, omnibus
Omnem, omnes
Omne, omnibus

wheat walrus
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omi

icy veldt
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Omne, omnia
Omnis, omnium
Omni, omnibus
Omne, omnia
Omne, omnibus

cloud ibex
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☹️

icy veldt
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I declined XD

split mortar
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Omni do you know what avitus is on about

cloud ibex
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can we please not do this

icy veldt
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It's the Latin declension pattern of omnis

wheat walrus
wheat walrus
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It's 1am

split mortar
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True

wheat walrus
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I need to wake up early

split mortar
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Midnight not the time for this

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Same

icy veldt
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Calamity lore needs its own conlangs

wheat walrus
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like 6 hours smth

split mortar
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Wake up shower play stuff and silk song at 3pm

icy veldt
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Whole ass conlangs with their own pronunciation rules and grammar and inflection patterns and syntax and vocabulary and etymologies

thick slate
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silksong at 11pm

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thanks team cherry

split mortar
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Your wackass timezone is wack

wheat walrus
thick slate
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its literally their timezone too

split mortar
split mortar
wanton pendant
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I look away for like ten minutes what happened?

split mortar
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Omni will goku be able to solo your immune system or not

thick slate
wanton pendant
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Hello.

icy veldt
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The Latin word for "hello" has separate forms for singular and plural: salvē and salvēte, respectively

thick slate
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what

wanton pendant
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There are languages where there's a different hello for a response to a hello.

thick slate
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i had to learn an amount of latin for biology

wanton pendant
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Probably for cadavers, given it's a dead language.

thick slate
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i get a cadaver in 5 weeks

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to dissect

icy veldt
wanton pendant
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Yay?

thick slate
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idk

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kinda cool

wheat walrus
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id win

icy veldt
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Anyway, I think it'd be cool if the lore had its own fully-developed conlangs

thick slate
wheat walrus
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conlangs r cool but complex

wanton pendant
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(I know, it's a pun.)

thick slate
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genuinely easier to learn latin to remember the content

thick slate
wheat walrus
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it's fine not having them or having them be partially developed

wanton pendant
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As cool as making a fictional language would be, for the love of God please don't add a fictional language to learn for Calamity.

wanton pendant
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I can't learn languages it would make it so much harder.

icy veldt
wheat walrus
icy veldt
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Sadvitus

split mortar
icy veldt
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Brapvitus, meanwhile, is me when I fart

thick slate
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i feel like draedon would havw his own language

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that only he uses

wanton pendant
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Binary.

icy veldt
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Beep beep boop boop

thick slate
icy veldt
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Blorpl zop

wanton pendant
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What did you say about my mother!?

wheat walrus
thick slate
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like a computer language

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but super complex

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so no one can hack his stuff unless he wants u to

icy veldt
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Draedon probably uses an efficient tokenization/encoding scheme to store knowledge

wanton pendant
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I mean, 'unhackable' is kinda impossible, no matter how good you are. But good luck hacking Draedon.

thick slate
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compared to draedrae

icy veldt
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Like "Calamitas is sad right now" would be represented as something like {person.Calamitas} {emotion.sad} {timestamp.now} but in the form of binary tokens or IDs

thick slate
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nerd ?

icy veldt
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You got me

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Guilty as charged

thick slate
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tough

wanton pendant
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[id:C-WitchA em:Melancholy dt:1875-1887]

icy veldt
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{person: Providence the Profaned Goddess} {physShape <- catgirl} {ts = 1887.11.20} XD

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Alright, I'll stop

cloud ibex
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Please do

wanton pendant
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I concur.

icy veldt
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With the Draedon thing, not the Provy catgirl thing

thick slate
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provi

icy veldt
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"Provy" is a cuter spelling

cloud ibex
thick slate
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it also overcomplicates it

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by giving her two nicknames

wanton pendant
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Does this make the Guardians Provles?

icy veldt
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Provii. Provie. Provee

thick slate
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proxy

icy veldt
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Provi's behind seven proxies. Good luck finding her!

feral skiff
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what’s the current tech level of the calamity world (also does draedon casually have technology 200 years ahead of everyone else)

wanton pendant
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Very high, realistically.

icy veldt
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Early industrial revolution, before Draedon

cloud ibex
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More than 200

icy veldt
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Draedon's tech is like 400-600 years ahead

feral skiff
thick slate
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he has like infinite energy

icy veldt
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Yep!

wanton pendant
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Draedon did have people helping him, so his tech may have spread, although he's obviously ahead by a lot.

long bloom
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there isn't a single level

cloud ibex
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Before Draedon got involved the people seemed to be at around the industrial revolution in terms of technology

icy veldt
wanton pendant
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That too.

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His stuff can be recreated, so long as you can get ahold of it.

thick slate
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everyone knows if u make a bow out of a weird metal its stronger than a gun

cloud ibex
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And draedon is WAY ahead of even us irl

long bloom
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yeah he has drones that can scan an entire planet

thick slate
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draedon is like ultron

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but lamer

wanton pendant
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No, not really.

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Ultron wants to kill everyone.

thick slate
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just take over the world gang

wanton pendant
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And make a robot Utopia.

icy veldt
thick slate
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ultron knows everythingg

icy veldt
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Provypoo

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Lil' Provy chungus

long bloom
wanton pendant
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You can stop.

cloud ibex
thick slate
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think about it irl

icy veldt
icy veldt
cloud ibex
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The bit might’ve been funny the first like three times but at this point it’s just getting kinda weird

thick slate
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truman show

wanton pendant
icy veldt
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That wouldn't really be controlling the world

thick slate
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if everyones in it

wanton pendant
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Truman Show is not an accurate portrayal of anthropology.

thick slate
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kinda is

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also u can own the world and still have wildlife

icy veldt
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Okay, so if Draedon controls the world to research it, which parts of it would he be controlling?

thick slate
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uhh

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that part

wanton pendant
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Sounds like a waste of resources to micro-manage everything when he could be going to space.

thick slate
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exactly this is why ultron is cooler

icy veldt
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???

thick slate
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cuz he goes to space

icy veldt
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Which is also part of Draedon's goal

thick slate
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this guy got infinite energy but not spaceflight

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is he stupid

visual kiln
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truman show mention???

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peak??????????

thick slate
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man thats true

icy veldt
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Things take time. They don't happen instantaneously

wanton pendant
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Is Truman the true man?

visual kiln
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yes

thick slate
wanton pendant
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Space's Haunted.

icy veldt
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And, how do you know that?

thick slate
icy veldt
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Because of their appearances, and that's it?

thick slate
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they can fly indefinitely

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and dont need any resources

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they have weapons

wanton pendant
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Not exactly the most ergonomic space ships I've seen.

tropic oak
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hi

icy veldt
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Also, they probably aren't equipped for what Draedon wants to do in space

thick slate
wanton pendant
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Getting to space is one thing. Doing stuff in space is another.

thick slate
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just like swap out apollos laser for a drill

wanton pendant
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I don't think the super weapons of war are doing much for space.

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Wouldn't it make more sense to build a specialized drill robot rather then retrofitting your super god killer robot?

thick slate
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thanatos could fuck up an asteroid

wanton pendant
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Also, they're probably a bit too expensive to mass produce.

thick slate
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fair

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but its kinda like exponential

light linden
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depends on how they're used

thick slate
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cuz space has infinite resources

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the more u mine the more you can make

wanton pendant
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How fast do you think Sea Prisms grow?

light linden
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like you can terraform planets to some degree by shooting it with a laser

icy veldt
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Except Draedon would need his manufacturing infrastructure to make stuff with the resources his robots mine

heavy zenith
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I think Draedon can stagger the growth of multiple sea prisms to constantly have output

thick slate
wanton pendant
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Growing them? I'd presume it takes a lot to make the Exo Mechs.

thick slate
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draedon might be stupidest smart robot

wanton pendant
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They're probably the main bottleneck for Exo Tech, since they are reliant on processing a very specific resource. He could make the rest of the robots out of whatever he wanted, so long as it suited the purpose.

heavy zenith
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No doubt

thick slate
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why doesnt he just make a new world

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for more sea
prism

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is he stipid

leaden bridge
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yharim will retire from the aerie tomorrow in order to play silksong, we hope you understand this hard decision

wanton pendant
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His computer's storage space is full.

heavy zenith
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He might need another awkward visit to Draedon then

thick slate
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hey man my computer cant run it

wanton pendant
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'Yharim, this is Windows 97.'

thick slate
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draedons pc probably bulletproof

leaden bridge
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yharim got exotech bro

thick slate
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and has its own defense system

icy veldt
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Holy crap, there's a Windows 97 in Calamity?!?!?!

heavy zenith
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Draedon gave him the DTX 5000009000000

leaden bridge
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you think hed tune his armor and forget to get the gaming pc

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draedon just didnt mention it because they didnt want you asking for one

thick slate
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drae tracing

leaden bridge
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he knows he sent you a fucking shitty ass codebreaker

heavy zenith
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LOL Codebreaker got at least 1 core

icy veldt
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He doesn't want you getting distracted from killing Yharim and making all of the societal changes that he wants to study

thick slate
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codebreaker running off hopes and dreams

leaden bridge
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dawg codebreaker not even a proper led displa y

wanton pendant
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'Terrarian, the schematics clearly specified an 8k monitor, yet this thing displays in one colour! What did you use to make this?'

heavy zenith
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Shit couldn't even run roblox ong

icy veldt
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It's like the one device in the world that can't run Doom

wanton pendant
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Now that's just silly.

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Everything can run DOOM.

thick slate
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my cat can run doom

wanton pendant
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See?

heavy zenith
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Can we do doom 64 in Terraria Calamity

thick slate
leaden bridge
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ytou didnt even have to actually encode it dawg

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we can't read fucking hdds with our mouths

wanton pendant
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'I can hear your fans from here! Why does it even have fans, I specifically said to use a water cooling system!'

icy veldt
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Draedon encrypted it for fun

heavy zenith
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Love the idea of a Lihzard themed pc build. Bro got the power cell in there and everything

icy veldt
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Yharim would hate it

heavy zenith
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He would💀

thick slate
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also all computers have fans

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regardless of ur cpu cooling

wanton pendant
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Draedon figured out fanless computers.

icy veldt
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Yharim brings his gaming PC to Draedon for repairs and Draedon makes it Lihzahrd themed as a prank

thick slate
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i should waterseal my pc

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and fill it with deionised water

icy veldt
heavy zenith
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Draedon got that open source pc. Motherboard on the shelf connected the gpu and shi

leaden bridge
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well it's not really

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the entire building is a pc

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so it's like

thick slate
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draedon is a pc

wanton pendant
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He's an IC (Impersonal Computer.)

heavy zenith
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We got Draedon pronouns before gta 6

wanton pendant
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Now I'm reminded of that what are your pronouns meme.

leaden bridge
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draedon won't be able to answer codebreaker calls tomorrow for the obvious reason

thick slate
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but i dont think he cares at all

visual kiln
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normalize using it/its pronouns for draedon

leaden bridge
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youre true

thick slate
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im going to start using sheher for draedo

leaden bridge
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truth roaring

split mortar
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Side story where moonlord wins when

mellow frost
split mortar
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💔

mellow frost
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and then they all get devoured by calamitas or whatever that big worm is called idfk

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Then Yharon sends a message to his master, saying something is going on in this world

young socket
leaden bridge
icy veldt
icy veldt
split mortar
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Embers

icy veldt
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It made me sad when I read it SAD

split mortar
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What did tyrian eat

long bloom
icy veldt
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Do gods even need to eat food?

ionic harness
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they totally do

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they eat pancakes

cosmic zenith
long bloom
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does ml even have a character XD

leaden bridge
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killing things and wanting power maybe wdk

brazen swallow
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moonlord's personality is being a silly little prankster (the prank is invading planets)

frosty charm
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can someone send the thing of agnus again

frosty charm
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oh my god bruh

long bloom
frosty charm
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is it calart

frail hearth
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there's a couple few servers there xzier ;u;

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which one's the one that link leads to?

long bloom
frosty charm
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i saw it

long bloom
frail hearth
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thank you! ^u^

visual kiln
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blep

frosty charm
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tryna think of the calamitas fight for a story, which works better

  • calamitas is abt to kill the terrarian (prevent yharim 2.0) but after seeing something (still undecided) they spare them
  • just what happens ingame (could/about to kill them, chooses to spare them and welcome them to town)
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also does xeroc's sigil have any distinct color or is it just white

frosty charm
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mkay

summer ice
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I need to know every single enemy or at least boss that comes from space or the sky islands

sinful adder
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Storm weaver I guess

long bloom
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storm weaver doesn't originate from the sky

summer ice
long bloom
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but deus is from space

long bloom
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not space

sinful adder
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They're from another dimension

summer ice
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oh

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makes total sense

long bloom
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the only actual space boss is astrum deus

sinful adder
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If you mean ones that are actually from space or the sky in lore, then:

summer ice
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so my only materials the entire run is aerialite, astral bars, and exo prisms

long bloom
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dragonfolly is almost definitely being rethemed to be a sky boss in a future update
so you could count that

summer ice
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how fun…

sinful adder
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Sky:
Harpy
Wyvern
Cloud elemental
Sun fish guy

Space:
All the martians
All the astral enemies (kind of)
Astrum Deus

long bloom
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also exo prisms aren't from space

summer ice
long bloom
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they're from the sunken sea

summer ice
long bloom
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old lore

sinful adder
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Ok. Thats not a remotely reasonable run

sinful adder
long bloom
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draedon was built in terraria

summer ice
sinful adder
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The lore was rewritten like 3 years ago

cloud ibex
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ML also came from space i think but we don't really know much about him so he might not actually be from space

long bloom
summer ice
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okay so just aerialite and astral

cloud ibex
sinful adder
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Anything not in the base calamity mod right now is wrong

cloud ibex
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which was based on older lore

sinful adder
#

Oh right

summer ice
long bloom
#

infernum isn't canon

sinful adder
#

The pillars and moon lord and everything related to them are from space

#

And yeah. Nothing from infernum is canon

long bloom
summer ice
#

so my only gear is aerialite, then astral bosses, then luminite

long bloom
#

exodium is from space

cloud ibex
#

well he's called the "abomination from beyond the stars" isn't he

#

that's pretty space coded

summer ice
#

SCal with moonlord gear is gonna be fun

sinful adder
long bloom
#

so conflicting information

cloud ibex
#

like i said we don't actually know if he originates from space but space seems to be the direction he came from as he first invaded terraria

long bloom
#

that's true yes

sinful adder
#

Oh, and there's a rogue armor for early hardmode from the astral infection

summer ice
#

so that would mean I probably couldn’t use Luminite if he is from the void

long bloom
#

that's vanilla lore

#

also not canon

summer ice
sinful adder
#

It's kinda not

#

Everything added by the calamity mod is canon, everything from anywhere else, including vanilla, isn't

#

Vanilla items are mostly canon but the lore behind them is changed

summer ice
#

My only armors are meteorite, titan heart, astral, luminite, and that’s basically where everything stops

sinful adder
#

Sounds like it

summer ice
#

if some dude can beat SCal with a wooden bow I gotta be able to beat scal with star wrath

cloud ibex
#

if you're patient probably

summer ice
#

just kill me💔

sinful adder
#

Ark of the cosmos isn't from space but is space themed

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It was made on terraria but uses space powers

summer ice
#

I mean I could use zenith since it needs star wrath and star fury but idk

sinful adder
#

Zenith is worse anyways I think

summer ice
#

I might just not do this challenge this sounds annoying as fuck

#

Draedon tech we go

zenith geode
#

isnt zenith like the best weapon for basecal exos

real glen
#

But not strong

zenith geode
#

??????????

#

3:38 on exos

#

its easily SS on exos

#

4:38 on scal too

long bloom
zenith geode
#

im pretty sure you could get like sub 3:00 with a glassy loadout instead of a tester loadout

real glen
#

Zenith is A (according to weapon tier doc)
Also it felt weak to me so i used dragon pow or something else instead
-# or maybe my loadout is just that bad

zenith geode
#

A for the tier

#

its B on scal

#

its SS on exos

light linden
cloud ibex
#

Someone did beat SCal with a wooden bow I’m pretty sure yes

fallen kindle
#

what

#

how

cloud ibex
#

Slowly

fallen kindle
#

fair enough

real glen
gaunt sluice
#

jesus christ terraria players are like piano players

#

Imagine being calamitas and you finally come face to face with the Terrarian

#

and they're wielding a freaking basic wood bow

#

and they beat you with sheer force of will

visual kiln
#

Hsjdkenekekne

#

Insane idea

#

Can someone write a fanfic of this

wanton pendant
#

Lore explanation: She had to respect the hustle.

tall badge
tropic oak
#

i wonder what Dragon Asriel Dreemurr consumed in order to have become the God of Hyperdeath..

wanton pendant
#

Dragon of The End.

wheat walrus
#

Origin Dragon

wanton pendant
#

Dragon of Chara Making People Do Things.

wanton pendant
#

Dead? So is Chara.

distant smelt
#

Why would chara make yharim do the crusades?

wanton pendant
#

Are they stupid?

pulsar ocean
#

Why would chara make yharim kill those civilians

wanton pendant
#

It was just a prank.

regal rivet
zenith geode
#

yeah

#

a weapon that does pretty good on exos but amazingly on scal will be pretty high

pulsar ocean
#

can draedon with prep time beat batman with prep time

long bloom
#

no question

pliant ruin
#

i mean

#

it depends on the batman

#

dc has like 500000 different continuities some batmans could probably solo the entirety of calamity for all i know

pliant ruin
#

There is no lore, vanilla or not, about moon lord coming from the Void

#

there isn't even a place called Void in either vanilla or calamity lore

#

(Do no take the name of items that literally 😭 )

north socket
#

That one super super buff Batman

#

That’s like 7 feet tall

#

Absolute Batman I think

pliant ruin
#

oh yeah that guy

#

hes cool but hes not that strong compared to some of the other ones

north socket
#

He could easily solo all pre hard mode bosses and most definitely some of the early HM bosses

pliant ruin
#

like theres some batmans that can probably erase reality and shit idk man

#

dcs fucked up

#

marvels fucked up too

north socket
#

Absolute Batman isn’t, he’s an AU

pliant ruin
#

what even is canon theres like 80000 different continuities 😭

north socket
#

Bruce Wayne, robin etc

#

Just the typical normal stuff

wanton pendant
#

You're underestimating the fact that Batman is Batman.

#

Thus, Batman wins.

distant smelt
#

*thus

spring helm
wanton pendant
distant smelt
wanton pendant
#

Shhhh....

sinful adder
#

Comic book lore is fucked yeah

wanton pendant
#

Spider-Man vs. Calamitas, who wins the being broke competition?

craggy jacinth
#

which Spiderman

brazen swallow
jaunty wraith
#

Batman can beat xeroc with prep time

distant smelt
#

I can beat you without prep time

jaunty wraith
#

You think i could fix Providence?

wanton pendant
#

No.

#

But Providence could fix you by reducing you to sinless ash.

jaunty wraith
#

Im so fucked up my ash gonna cause issues

#

I'll never be sinless

wanton pendant
#

Then your ashes will be reduced to ashes.

jaunty wraith
#

My ashes will get in someone's eyes no matter how reduced

wanton pendant
#

Not if there is no one with eyes left.

icy veldt
leaden locust
#

skong is definitely canon in clammy tea

limpid saddle
icy veldt
#

No, not like that!

wanton pendant
icy veldt
#

I meant just like containing her essence in a weaker form, as a form of penance

#

But enough about that. Is the Moon Lord lactose intolerant?

icy veldt
#

Yeah, it would prevent him from restoring his strength by eating the Moon's cheese

wanton pendant
#

But also since he's some kind of space squid thing, he's unlikely to have developed the ability to digest lactose.

icy veldt
#

If he's ever swallowed an entire cow whole, then he's probably ingested some amount of lactose

wanton pendant
#

I mean, all mammals produce milk.

icy veldt
#

I bet the Moon Lord drew crop circles during his first breaking-stuff-session on Terraria

wanton pendant
#

But can we prove mammals exist in Calamity?
Someone call the devs.

wanton pendant
#

Can we prove they are mammals in Calamity?

icy veldt
#

Are humans in Calamity mammals, or are they something else?

#

What if Calamity humans are actually fungi?

wanton pendant
#

Humans are lizard people, obviously.

icy veldt
#

Wait no

#

Calamity humans are giant amoebas. They reproduce by mitosis

wanton pendant
#

Actually, the lore contradicts that.

icy veldt
#

I'm gonna get Draedon to make a retrovirus that fixes the inability for humans to undergo mitosis

cosmic zenith
#

Sir, humans do undergo mitosis

#

Several cells of our body can do it

wanton pendant
#

Yeah but, like, the whole human at once.

cosmic zenith
#

Mitosis is always at a cellular level

long bloom
#

what if you were an amoeba ultimatesmug

wanton pendant
#

Can we confirm mammals exist? For future reference?

cosmic zenith
#

Amoebas are cells dude

cosmic zenith
#

Humans in the Cal universe are mammals

wanton pendant
#

Alright, so, plan to beat Moon Lord.

long bloom
wanton pendant
#

Feed him milk.

cosmic zenith
long bloom
#

i mean i can do it idk about you tho

cosmic zenith
#

Sure

wanton pendant
cosmic zenith
#

How is milk gonna kill ML

long bloom
#

lactose intolerant

wanton pendant
#

I mean, like, chances are he's lactose intolerant.

pliant ruin
#

typical lore chat being lore chat 🔥

wanton pendant
#

I doubt space squids drink milk.

cosmic zenith
#

Do you have any idea of the amount of milk you'd need to cause a deadly reaction

icy veldt
#

Moon Lord shits himself and then dies

cosmic zenith
#

On a being that size

wanton pendant
#

Probably a lot.

#

So, on that note, are cows real?

icy veldt
#

Milk, or cheese?

cosmic zenith
#

There's also the question of how tf are you gonna get it to drink the milk

icy veldt
#

Feed the entire moon to the Moon Lord

cosmic zenith
#

If not exactly cows, an analogue

long bloom
#

it'll work trust

icy veldt
#

Giant funnel

#

Stick it in the beast's mouth

cosmic zenith
#

I'm pretty sure injecting someone with milk is gonna suck even for lactose tolerants

wanton pendant
#

Giant straw into a cup labelled 'Super Power Juice' that's actually filled with milk.

heavy zenith
#

So the whole deep space mana and degenerating stars thing. How much mana we talking before that happens?

wanton pendant
#

So like, stars aren't that big as far as I can tell.

#

Fallen Stars, to my knowledge, are very literal.

heavy zenith
#

Like theoretically would a person be strong enough and have enough mana to be degenerated into astral infection

wanton pendant
#

Let's assume the Astral Infection meteor is on the larger end.

wanton pendant
#

They can resist the influence indefinetly.

heavy zenith
#

Oh yeah I completely forgot about that

#

Nvm

wanton pendant
#

But Embers mentions that some stars are similar in size to say, Providence.

heavy zenith
#

But Astrum Deus dont try to eat Terraria and it has a whole biomes worth of it

#

So there's no way stars can be that small and still aggro Deus

wanton pendant
#

Astrum Deus eats stars, not Terraria.

#

And Astrum Deus is only a young member of the species... probably.

#

Also, Astrum Deus is infected with the Astral Infection.

#

So it's actually protecting it.

pliant ruin
#

Dei eat dying stars

#

The Deus we fight ingame was just young and unexperienced so it went for a star that was already far too rotten and had b een taken over by the infection

#

Causing it to be infectede

#

And hurling the infected star to terraria in a attempt to spread it further (Astral meteor

wanton pendant
#

At least, that's Dreadon's theory, which is probably accurate.

pliant ruin
#

yeah ^

wanton pendant
#

So unless you have a better idea than Draedon, we're going with that.

pliant ruin
#

my idea is taht deus did it WILLINGLY because its evil and hates yu specifically

#

fuck this 1 terrarian in particular

heavy zenith
#

So then the Astrum Deus species must be able to differentiate between stars and planets affected by the Infection, unless Terraria is the only planet in the theoreticsl universe. Because planets are obviously not immune to the infection, but maybe they just dont gather mana in the same way stars do, allowing Astrum Deus(species) to not focus on them. I dont know man there's only so much you can really prove

wanton pendant
#

Oh, other planets exist.

pliant ruin
#

Astrum dei don't eat infection

wanton pendant
#

But only one is known to be inhabited other than Terraria.

pliant ruin
#

They eat stars

wanton pendant
#

And that one's not doing so well.

pliant ruin
#

Generally before said stars are infected

wanton pendant
#

They eat them before they get infected.

#

Otherwise they poison themselves.

pliant ruin
#

Which is why our astrum deus fucked up because it tried to eat a infected star

#

Which led to it. getting infected

heavy zenith
#

I'm working on my creation video but there ain't that much to go into before the Draconic tbh

wanton pendant
#

That part I think is intentionally vague, as it's basically pre-historic or something.

pliant ruin
#

the most relevance i can see pre-draconic eras having would be on the world soul, how exactly dragons got the shards of it and the nature of the distortion

heavy zenith
#

Speculation will definitely be had

#

Exactly

#

Elementals can be put here too, since we know they kind of just manifest out of nothing

#

The Abyss was made pre Draconic

wanton pendant
#

I think the abyss just kinda exists from some supernatural reason I can't remember.

pliant ruin
#

I don't think

#

there's anything saying anything abt abyss being Made by anyone

#

as far as im aware its just

#

a natural formation lol

heavy zenith
#

Made naturally

wanton pendant
#

I mean, Yharim implies that it really shouldn't exist because of tectonics.

heavy zenith
#

Bad wording on my part

wanton pendant
#

'While there are many sightless crevasses in the deep sea, this one is a geological marvel.
It is located unsettlingly close to the shoreline. Somehow, even eons of tectonics could not seal or crush it.'

heavy zenith
#

Coincidence?

wanton pendant
#

Like, I know he's not a geologist, but like, it is kinda notable.

light linden
#

to my knowledge something like the abyss that close to the shore would collapse fast

wanton pendant
#

Hence, it's supernatural.

light linden
#

I kinda wonder if the elementals are to blame for it even forming

#

to my knowledge all of them are represented in the abyss

#

prolly coincidence

long bloom
#

cloudy?

wanton pendant
light linden
#

sand is most of the 1st layer

#

and I forgot about cloud

wanton pendant
long bloom
#

anahita and silva have direct influence bc obviously

#

i don't think you can attribute the existence of sand or the water cycle to the abyss specifically

wanton pendant
#

Anahita and Silva: Obvious.
Sand: Beach.
Brimstone: Scoria.
Cloud: Abyss features air management mechanics.

long bloom
#

is brimmy connected to scoria at all

wanton pendant
#

Fire.

long bloom
#

i mean the abyss being the elemental hub is a really cool idea, it just doesn't work right now

long bloom
long bloom
#

it's hot rock

wanton pendant
#

And Brimstone represents heat and fire.

long bloom
wanton pendant
#

Does it matter?

long bloom
#

i mean

#

yeah

wanton pendant
#

Neither are employed.

#

For wildly different reasons.

long bloom
#

wires ?????

#

just

#

nvm

wanton pendant
#

Hey, look, lore chat!

north root
#

literally this chat doesn't exist

thorny shell
#

I still don't buy that moon lord now is weak

north root
#

he got OLD

thorny shell
#

so we shouldn't care about who killed him

glad reef
#

moon lord is old and not at his full strength

wanton pendant
pliant ruin
#

We do care about who killed him

#

Like

north root
#

we killed him

wanton pendant
#

We are the killer of Moon Lord.

pliant ruin
#

Alot of shit happens in post moon lord

because we kill him

thorny shell
#

yes I know, we as in the upper echelon of bosses

pliant ruin
#

Profaned guardians go after you and subsequently providence
Draedon starts taking more interest on you

north root
#

okay who is cthulu in the lore though

thorny shell
#

because you beat moon lord way earlier than a lot of other boses

pliant ruin
#

Chtulhu isn't real

#

Not a character in calamity

#

thumb up

gritty kraken
wanton pendant
pliant ruin
#

No there is no Chtulhu

wanton pendant
north root
#

he's just fake

#

he's just not real

pliant ruin
#

Chtulhu is a character in vanilla terraria but not in calamity

wanton pendant
#

And Cthulhu isn't an alien either, he's some god thing. But not part of Calamity.

pliant ruin
#

Because those have like entirely separate narratives

gritty kraken
#

assumed they were talking about ml

north root
#

is there no lore reason behind EoC then

pliant ruin
#

there is

wanton pendant
#

Moon Lord isn't Cthulhu.

#

EoC is just a big monster.

pliant ruin
#

it's just not related to a character called Chtulhu

wanton pendant
#

Same as BoC.

pliant ruin
#

It's just called that because Lol Cool Name

north root
#

he's just an Eye Guy i guess

pliant ruin
#

Which isn't really unrealistic either because like

#

This sort of naming convention happens irl really often

wanton pendant
#

Somehow this is the gods' fault.

pliant ruin
#

DEVILS HOLE PUPFISH !!!

gritty kraken
pliant ruin
#

fucking. SEA DEVIL!!!

#

and you look inside and its a tiny blue fish and a manta ray

#

If anything it's more fitting on EoC because atleast that one is actually a gross monster evil creature rather than just

some fish Lol

thorny shell
#

my thought is, your rise to power should have been stopped way earlier, and I dont see why bosses didn't recognize the existential criss that is you

north root
#

it's the weird bloody sphere that draedon decided to copy for some reason

pliant ruin
#

They try though

#

Like. bosses do try to stop you

wanton pendant
#

That some guy would decide to become the second coming of Christ?

pliant ruin
#

Multiple times

#

You just. win

north root
#

any boss who feels threatened by you dies instantly

wanton pendant
#

If you don't win... well, something else would happen.

north root
#

game progression baby

wanton pendant
#

And that would be a different story.

north root
#

calamity but. you die

gritty kraken
#

The terrarian story is up to yo

wanton pendant
pliant ruin
#

Around prehardmode you really aren't anything that special so none of the big figures really try doing anything because i mean, why would they

#

You're just one of many random dudes on the world

#

There's no reason why they'd suspect you

wanton pendant
#

Late pre-hardmode you're like, a very impressive yet not exceedingly exceptional person.

thorny shell
#

post moonlord you are the special kid in the school

wanton pendant
#

By Moon Lord you are one of the greats.

pliant ruin
#

Yeah by post moon lord many of the big figures around the world take notice of you

thorny shell
#

so why did Yahorn didn't beat you earlier ?

wanton pendant
#

By Providence you are near unrivalled by all but the most powerful beings to have ever lived.

thorny shell
#

like directly post moon lord

pliant ruin
#

Because Yharon only went after you out of desperation

wanton pendant
#

By the end, you are the second strongest mortal.

gritty kraken
wanton pendant
#

Prove you're number one.

north root
#

by post-moon lord you are quite scary but DoG is a lazy bitch so you have to kill providence first

pliant ruin
#

Yharim wants us to fight him, Yharon tries to convince Yharim "dude, that's not a good idea, you'll fucking die, i don't want you to die you're my bestie"

#

And by the point Yharon fights you it's just

#

Desperation

#

He knows he can't convince Yharim so he just

wanton pendant
#

Providence proves further your standing.

pliant ruin
#

decides to do it himself, even if going against Yharim's wishes

wanton pendant
#

He's really loyal like that.

thorny shell
#

that's scary

wanton pendant
#

Can't stand the idea of losing his best friend.

thorny shell
#

not that part

wanton pendant
#

Can I bring up the war crime chart yet?

thorny shell
#

but how the terrarian became a real threat real fast

wanton pendant
thorny shell
#

I think I the terrarian have the most war crimes

#

hahaha

wanton pendant
#

No.

#

Not even close.

north root
#

is WoF still a big sack of dead gods mushed together or is there more lore

thorny shell
#

by far,I do...

wanton pendant
#

Made by Azafurians.

thorny shell
#

trust me bro... using the hour glass to speed up time so the NPCs revive...

north root
pliant ruin
#

WoF is basically ultrakill flesh prison for divine essence

thorny shell
#

when can we kill draedon?

pliant ruin
#

like thats literally what it is

pliant ruin
wanton pendant
pliant ruin
#

Theoretically possible but yeah

#

Not because his drone body is like particularly strong but because he's

wanton pendant
#

Here's the war crime chart. Terrarian's got nothing on Team Yharim.

pliant ruin
#

He's Lines Of Code

thorny shell
#

I mean its ok, if they let him revive... I just wanna kill him

north root
#

he has ten trillion alternate accounts, you can't ban him

pliant ruin
#

If you destroy his physical body he just has. several other ones

visual kiln
thorny shell
#

over and over again, and hunt him across the world

wanton pendant
#

Killing Draedon would be like killing the internet. By hand.

pliant ruin
#

I'm gonna fistfight the internet

wanton pendant
#

By punching servers to death.

thorny shell
#

and yu already killed every god

visual kiln
#

make a computer virus

thorny shell
#

and dragon

pliant ruin
#

well not really

thorny shell
#

and npc

wanton pendant
#

You can't kill every god.

pliant ruin
#

you have not in fact killed every god

thorny shell
#

when they release in the game you will

pliant ruin
#

no not really

wanton pendant
#

Even not including the ones that are off screen.

pliant ruin
#

you will never be able to

north root
#

there's a god of like everything bro

wanton pendant
#

Xeroc is too strong, Silva won't die.

#

Only a bit under 3k at most.

pliant ruin
#

silva is immortal, no matter what you do y ou can't kill her
xeroc won't be killed

#

xeroc fight will just you two throwing hands for fun. sparring match

wanton pendant
#

Well, there is one way, but it's not practical.

thorny shell
#

kill them, they revive, kill them again?

pliant ruin
#

but why tho

wanton pendant
#

She doesn't die, full stop.

#

Yharon revives.

pliant ruin
#

Silva's body is physically Destroyed but she's still alive herself

thorny shell
#

oh... wait so a question... the water elementalist

wanton pendant
#

You can't kill the living concept of nature.

thorny shell
#

she doesnt die?

wanton pendant
pliant ruin
#

Yeah she dosen't iether

wanton pendant
#

Same with Brimstone.

#

And Sand.

pliant ruin
#

none of the elementals can truly die

wanton pendant
#

And Cloud.

north root
#

what if i blow up the planet i mean would that kill the elementals

pliant ruin
#

you can break their physical bodies just like Silva had by the hands of yharim

#

but they just

come back

thorny shell
#

then how do I win the fight?

north root
#

i think it would right

wanton pendant
wanton pendant
#

Into tiny pieces.

pliant ruin
#

are they elementals of JUST terraria or like Everywhere

#

like do othr planets and space and etc count

thorny shell
#

can't you do the same to Silva?

wanton pendant
#

So she takes a while to regenerate.

wanton pendant
pliant ruin
#

but she's still not dead

north root
#

i think it'd be odd if it was of everywhere

wanton pendant
#

She got ground up and tossed into a pit. Twice.

pliant ruin
#

neither is anahita

thorny shell
#

no need to kill her

pliant ruin
thorny shell
#

if you can just make her unable to do anything

wanton pendant
#

She'll eventually reform.

#

Silva escaped the abyss once.

#

She can do it again.

pliant ruin
#

do you like playing murder hobos in dnd

thorny shell
#

I mean you have draedon, he is smart

wanton pendant
#

Same is true for the other Elementals, although as they aren't gods they are likely weaker.

pliant ruin
#

yeah Silva is def the strongest

thorny shell
#

he can cage her or some bs and have her body destroyed over and over again

pliant ruin
#

ok but

why would he do that

wanton pendant
#

And Brimstone is also after fighting a 13 year old girl to a standstill and is still recovering.

thorny shell
glad reef
#

astrum deus is probably my favorite godlike figure in cal despite not being a god

pliant ruin
#

he dosen't just Do Shit

#

😭

#

He has nothing to gain from doing that

wanton pendant
#

He used to before the rewrite.

glad reef
#

cause it's just chill af if it wasn't for the infection

visual kiln
#

oh that reminds me

#

chatt

glad reef
wanton pendant
#

Yeah?

pliant ruin
#

i like astrum deus because its just a chill guy

#

like just a dude

visual kiln
#

what kindsa space fauna and things do u think exist :o

pliant ruin
#

i could probably pet him in the head

north root
#

is fighting providence in the hallow not canon

glad reef
#

astrum deus and aquatic scoog are the goats

thorny shell
#

he wants knowledge, I beat Silva initially, then he can cage her and study her

#

win win

visual kiln
#

do u ppl have space creature OCs

wanton pendant
#

I think that... uh... there's not much...

pliant ruin
#

he has nothing to learn from studying silva

#

😭

glad reef
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if he gaf about silva he would already have what remains of her body by now

wanton pendant
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I think Fovos ate them or something.

thorny shell
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why? he can learn how to create elementalists

wanton pendant
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Since big space monster.