lore-discussion

[pliant ruin]

lol ?

[fair pelican]

Why Yharim didn’t get the devourer to go after her then

[pliant ruin]

Yharim fucking hates Xeroc

[wanton pendant]

Xeroc is practically unkillable.

[pliant ruin]

Because it wouldn't have done anything

Silva can't be killed

[wanton pendant]

She. Won't. Die.

[pliant ruin]

She is literally Life

like. the very concept of Life

[split mortar]

Yeah xerocs ascension was different to most others
He did it perfectly and thus has same domain as the dragon king

[wanton pendant]

Well, she's nature.

[cloud ibex]

silva can't die unless you kill all other life on the planet including yourself

[pliant ruin]

the only way to kill her is killing every living being

ever

[wanton pendant]

She's also the goddess of life.

[pliant ruin]

😭

[cloud ibex]

and that's not happening

[fair pelican]

What I mean is that most likely Xeroc was a willing ascension on the dragon part that would explain why he’s so strong

[split mortar]

Silva isnt the concept of nature

She just cant be killed if theres nature tho

[pliant ruin]

Yeah but

that isn't relevant at all here

Whether Xeroc was a willing ascencion or not

Yharim dosen't care

[split mortar]

Yharim doesnt care if it was consensual

[pliant ruin]

He wants to kill all gods

[wanton pendant]

Silva also has a perfect one, and she can't die for an unrelated reason.

[pliant ruin]

All of them

If morals were a factor here

[cloud ibex]

no xeroc is strong because they ascended with the soul of the most powerful dragon and has been working to get stronger for the last eight centuries

[wanton pendant]

It's a genocide. It's over when every last one is dead.

[pliant ruin]

Yharim woundn't have killed the multiple gods that were just straight up good, kind-hearted people

And he wouldn't have destroyed a entire civilization using his Child Soldier

[wanton pendant]

And Xeroc's power is the literal sun.

[pliant ruin]

Killing thousands of civilians in the process

[cloud ibex]

we don't know for sure if the ascension was with consent or not and even if we did we don't know if it matters at all

[split mortar]

We also dunno the circumstances of the other gods ascending (other then provi) afaik
So
We cant say if rhe other gods didnt have consent either

[fair pelican]

Isnt his argument for killing gods that they were complicit in genocide?
How it’s genocide if the dragon gives their soul willingly?

[cloud ibex]

well observed

[split mortar]

Yharims delusional

[wanton pendant]

He doesn't know that.

[pliant ruin]

here's the thing!

yharim is a bad person!

[wanton pendant]

And he doesn't care.

[cloud ibex]

yharim doesn't give a shit if it was willing or not

[split mortar]

Yeah yharims a bad person he isnt being
Logical

[wanton pendant]

His source was a dragon, who didn't know either.

[cloud ibex]

all he cares about is that a dragon died, in his eyes that makes you worthy of death

[wanton pendant]

Good thing I made this chart, listing their crimes and motivations. And it's quite apparent that Yharim is completely out of his mind.

[pliant ruin]

Me when i have to manipulate the child who just lost her entire family overnihgt into my reusable nuclear bomb and then send her to destroy a entire civilization filled with thousands of innocent civilians including mothers and children and the elderly aswell as irreparably damaging the incredibly diverse ecosystem and causing the extinction of several species all because there were two gods in there i wanted to kill and said gods were loved by their people and one of them managed to literally stop a civil war

[split mortar]

You dont end up with the creation of skeletron prime by being reasonable

[wanton pendant]

Thousands seems quite conservative.

[split mortar]

Yeah prob closer to tens or hundreds of thousands

[wanton pendant]

If it had a similar population to say, Italy, that's nearly 60 million.

[cloud ibex]

yharim's goals aren't logical because he's some dude and people aren't logical

[wheat walrus]

I am beyond logic

[wanton pendant]

Although, as far as I know we don't know any census data for any nation.

It should be noted that, for the size of Ilmeris, tens of thousands would make it very sparsely populated.

[wheat walrus]

depends

[split mortar]

Xeroc has like multiple reasons for being absurdly strong

[wanton pendant]

The unmatched power of the sun.

[wheat walrus]

1, we will never have a real size value
2, even if we did, we would never have an official size value for the world, nor a population count for it

and im not counting dev statements atp they're inconsistent as hell

[split mortar]

We know like 300 million is more then 20% iirc

From devs

[split mortar]

Oh dair

Fair

[wheat walrus]

that was from like 2 years ago

[wanton pendant]

The only thing that could fight Xeroc would be something with anti-Primordial Light powers. Hence, Moon's Haunted Theory. The Moon can beat Xeroc.

[wheat walrus]

and the size of ilmeris has changed a trillion times

[split mortar]

i didnt exist back then

[wanton pendant]

You are the youngest person ever.

[wheat walrus]

that's when i first heard the 300m value

way before u appeared in lore discussion

[split mortar]

Im on about 300m being more then 20%
Still dubious

[split mortar]

I swear used to be like 100m before

[wheat walrus]

p

whatever

[split mortar]

Dev stuff on population weird anyways

[wheat walrus]

more fuel to the dev statements shouldn't be taken that seriously fire

[wanton pendant]

If that was accurate then the population of Terraria was extremely low.

Like, this is a post-industrial revolution society.

Population should be massive.

[split mortar]

Fuck it make 300 million people be in ilmeris

[split mortar]

The devious yharim

[wanton pendant]

Now that would be exceedingly dense in population, 500% that of Italy's.

[wheat walrus]

how it feel when ppl measure fictional population progress 1:1 to real humanity 😔

[wanton pendant]

They have magic healthcare, it should be way higher than our own.

Unless Terraria is a really small planet, or something?

[wheat walrus]

they have magic, it should be way different from our own

they prolly didnt have an industrial revolution as we would know it in the first place

different world, different resources, different circumstances and different needs

[wanton pendant]

They had robots 660 years ago.

[distant smelt]

Yeah
It’d be better atctually

[wheat walrus]

yall missing my point

like

flew over head completely

[split mortar]

And magic disease probably

[wheat walrus]

^

[wheat walrus]

^

[split mortar]

Magic healthcare magic damage

[wanton pendant]

The one we know of wasn't that great at infecting people.

[wheat walrus]

we are not on the same line

[split mortar]

Thats raw fucking mana not a infection that also uses mana 💔

[wanton pendant]

I'm not sure how that contradicts what I said? I'm using my knowledge on what causes population growth and decline, and claiming that based on the societal development of Terraria they should have a very high population.

[wheat walrus]

you're basing it on real humanity

when ppl in calamity have existed in a noticeably different world under different circumstances, and thus would have different origins, bit too much to use real humanity's own progress as a measuring stick

i disagree with taking into consideration dev statements in most cases, esp about things like "their population was 300 million"

but it not being realistic is the least of my complaints in that regard

instead, one should wonder what makes it so different from us

maybe they did deal with something dangerous, yharim aside

[wheat walrus]

mana alone makes a huge difference

the different forms of life, so do they

the dragons for the longest time, and now gods also do

even the environments as a whole

[distant smelt]

I mean things like the wulfrum prosthesis exist. Its not like the existence of mana makes regular tech obselete

[wheat walrus]

wasn't saying that

i am saying that factors like these make differences

both for humans but for non-humans too

[wanton pendant]

Unless there's a good reason why reducing mortality wouldn't increase the population, I don't see how my assumptions that the population would greatly outpace our own wouldn't make sense?

[wheat walrus]

the lifeforms are clearly stronger than irl, that alone helps explaining a lower population

[wheat walrus]

once again

we are not on the same line

there is no outpacing each other when we're clearly going on different progress routes

[wanton pendant]

Then I have no clue what line you are on since I don't see how our arguments aren't related.

[wheat walrus]

sob

[wheat walrus]

you're assuming that because terraria's humanity would be deeper in progression than ours, that it shouldn't struggle with low population

but the progression they're taking is not the same as ours

so there's no "deeper than ours", they're in an entirely different world to begin with

the progression they took is not the same as real humanity

the stuff they deal with also isn't

[split mortar]

I dont see 500 zombies flooding a place irl

[wheat walrus]

humans irl didn't exist under the auric dragons for god knows how long

[wheat walrus]

also this melon

[wanton pendant]

I'm aware of that, my argument is that based on their resources and capabilities, they should be making us look like amateurs.

[split mortar]

Or slimes or flying eyes

[distant smelt]

They have bigger threats but more ways to deal with them

[wanton pendant]

As far as I can tell, your argument is that their environment should limit their population, right?

[wheat walrus]

yea, but do consider that even an eye of cthulhu is an impressive task for human standards

[wheat walrus]

that's 1

the other is that comparisons to real us are kind of obsolete

because of that

because we're different in different worlds

[wanton pendant]

Isn't the whole point of narrative to compare to real life, so you can learn from the messages and themes?

[wheat walrus]

messages and themes are one thing

specifics about the world are another

[split mortar]

Theres a difference between “dont cling to the past” and population

[wheat walrus]

you can have realistic messages in what otherwise is an absurd story in an absurd world

[cloud ibex]

Dark souls is completely unrealistic but it still rings true irl that it would be fucked up if a skeleton had a sword

[wanton pendant]

Exactly.

[wheat walrus]

leon moment

[distant smelt]

The world might be different but (largely) humans are pretty much the same. They’re like the one thing in the world we should be able to reasonably speculate history and conditions for population growth.

[wanton pendant]

Now you're speaking my language.

[wheat walrus]

well then

humans irl weren't basically under a species of god-like dragons

for as recently as less than 1000 years ago

[wanton pendant]

And biologically, organisms with a high mortality rate reproduce faster, so while yes you can say that biology is different in Calamity's world it isn't unreasonable for me to use my prior knowledge with no real reason to believe it wouldn't apply.

[cloud ibex]

I think it’s a fair read that it’s hard to compare the world of cal and the real world

[wheat walrus]

since the population thing was a dev statement, another dev statement is that for the longest time the sun was too tough for humans to stay in the surface, wasn't it

hundreds of years are lots of growth, but under these conditions there would be a lot to grow to reach the numbers we have irl

if you can't even be in the surface of your own world, and what's below it is hell

[wanton pendant]

There were at least 1500 years where humans could be exposed to the surface.

[wheat walrus]

where this from

[split mortar]

????

[wanton pendant]

Chrysadia was founded around then.

Unless I'm misremembering.

[wheat walrus]

yea, chrysadia, which collapsed before the first god came to be

[wanton pendant]

It was also in the sky.

[distant smelt]

Oh yeah absolutely. But for something as simple as comparing how populations grow It’s probably a lot less complicated (comparatively)

[wanton pendant]

Not sure what gods have to do with my argument.

[wheat walrus]

the population number cei brought up i assume was considering pre-yharim

[split mortar]

The sun got weaker after xeroc ascended according to the quote iirc

Also chrysadia had fucking VETRASYL helping em

[wheat walrus]

what i just said

[wheat walrus]

^if this is the case, chrysadia would've been long-destroyed by then

[cloud ibex]

The existence of magic, the existence of some robot dude chilling in the background with technology centuries if not a millennia ahead of the rest of the world, the surface being unlivable until less this a thousand years ago, inexplicable giant chunks of ice that go (presumably) miles into the ground and create entire regions of the land existing less than a day’s walk away from deserts and jungles, inexplicably floating islands, fish people

[wheat walrus]

and for all we know, they were alone in being outside before gods came to be

[cloud ibex]

All of these things would have an effect on how the world develops and how populations grow and all that nerd shit

[wheat walrus]

even still, that is 1 civilization

the rest would still be underground dealing with hell for all we know

i think these conditions would make for a terribly low population, until xeroc regulated the sun for all

then the hundreds of years they had after that would've led to a population growth

but even if it's a major growth, it's easy to imagine that they still wouldn't reach giant numbers like we have here after that time

[wanton pendant]

That's still like, 700 or something about for the population to grow, which is a very long time.

[wheat walrus]

especially considering they still weren't under heaven either

not all gods were bad, but some were quite bad

and one of the strongest gods being hellbent on wiping out living things doesn't help it either

so, even prior to yharim, there still would've been turmoil tampering growth

[wanton pendant]

Providence probably is a big contributor to the mortality rate.

[wheat walrus]

ya

[cloud ibex]

Killing people is generally bad for population counts

[wanton pendant]

Genocide is really bad for it, there are places that haven't recovered to their population numbers even after like, 200 years.

[wheat walrus]

yea

so, with all this in mind

it's reasonable for the population to have been low prior to yharim

[cloud ibex]

And then funny auric man halved it again

Thanks Yharim very cool

[wanton pendant]

That's fair, but as this isn't something we're likely to get a concrete answer on, at least not for some time, this can only be reasoned as speculation.

[wheat walrus]

yep

[pulsar ocean]

Gods probably deserved it for animal cruelty

[pulsar ocean]

But civilian casualties aren't cool

[pulsar ocean]

They had it coming if they were willing to slay innocent dragons

[wanton pendant]

He wouldn't say that.

[wanton pendant]

He would say that.

[cloud ibex]

Yea he would say that

Well maybe minus the “innocent” part but other than that

[wanton pendant]

Yharim probably sees all dragons as pure and innocent guardians. Even the ones that were jerks.

[wheat walrus]

guardians

like

monster hunter wilds constructs

[wanton pendant]

I didn't play that one.

[wheat walrus]

they made artificial monsters

imitating life

[wanton pendant]

Like some kind of Undertale...

[wheat walrus]

funnily enough, wyveria is in part underground

and the dragontorch, their source of limitless energy, is embedded in the earth, and wyrmways allow it to diverge its energy across the entirety of the eastlands

[split mortar]

Asriel dreemurr vs all of calamity

[wheat walrus]

me

[wanton pendant]

Which form?

[wheat walrus]

id win

[pulsar ocean]

A literal god with infinite stats vs a verse that scales up to like continental

[wanton pendant]

Not quite how his final form works.

[wheat walrus]

what is undertale scaling abt

💔

[cloud ibex]

Friendship I think

[wanton pendant]

His weakness is wanting to win harder. Because Determination is the source of strength.

[wheat walrus]

wall level until further notice

[wanton pendant]

Wanting to win more means he can't beat you. But you can't beat him as he's nigh invincible.

So Calamitas wins, because she wants to make a better world?

Yharim fights him forever.

[split mortar]

Like everyones wall level and then God destroys the timeline

[wheat walrus]

i destroyed the timeline

[split mortar]

You are a goat flower child

[wanton pendant]

Monsters are physically very weak in structure, and believing in yourself is their weakness.

[wheat walrus]

no, im omni

[wanton pendant]

Asriel and Calamitas would bond over their genocides.

[split mortar]

Yeah goat flower child
Rearrange what i said and you get omni

[pulsar ocean]

Omega flowey no diffs the verse cuz he can load in the save and try again

[wanton pendant]

But the souls rebel.

So Calamitas wins again.

[wheat walrus]

there is no m in that name for this to work, not even an n

[pulsar ocean]

I don't think yharim would help the souls same as frisk

[wanton pendant]

Yharim would have a hard time getting help, yeah.

[distant smelt]

What the hell did i miss

[wanton pendant]

But he's also really strong. Have you considered that?

[wheat walrus]

i destroyed a timeline

and killed capital G

[wanton pendant]

Calamitas specifically beats everyone in Undertale.

[wanton pendant]

GASTER!?

[wheat walrus]

God

also gaster tho

[split mortar]

Gaster already shattered like glass

[cloud ibex]

Lore discussion

[wheat walrus]

melon im gonna shatter you like one

[pulsar ocean]

if 7 souls is god level boundless++++ then 6 souls is around like probably around the same so yharim gets neg diffed

[wanton pendant]

This is important.

[wanton pendant]

What the hell are you talking about.

[distant smelt]

???

[pulsar ocean]

Yharim isn't winning

[wheat walrus]

kozz is kozzing like crazy

[distant smelt]

Powerscalers hurt my brain

[wanton pendant]

Asriel Dreemurr couldn't even out-will a young child.

His entire power is having will.

[wheat walrus]

rip

[pulsar ocean]

ok but frisk had more determination

[distant smelt]

Frisk is a very willful child and should not be considered

[wanton pendant]

Even with seven souls, he's not unbeatable, since the source of power is literally Determination.

Most Green Lanterns wipe the floor with Asriel.

[distant smelt]

Frisk is an outlier in every sense of the word tbh

[wheat walrus]

me too

[distant smelt]

Wait omg
Frisk green lantern

[cloud ibex]

If you’re gonna do Undertale powerscaling could you please move it to gen media or something

[wheat walrus]

true Goupert Funkerdinckle

[distant smelt]

Yeah i was thinking this was derailing a bit too far

[pulsar ocean]

asriel resets the timeline and kills the green lanterns while they're newborns

[distant smelt]

So anyway uhh

[wheat walrus]

calamity struck

[wanton pendant]

He can't do that unless he has more Determination.

[distant smelt]

You like
Dragons?

[wanton pendant]

Yeah!

[pulsar ocean]

no

[distant smelt]

Hmm

[wheat walrus]

what's your favorite calamity, storms or earthquakes

[distant smelt]

War

[hushed jasper]

Storms

[wanton pendant]

Famine, Pestilence is also good...

[pulsar ocean]

The bad one

[wheat walrus]

true vortex storms are cool

[wheat walrus]

both are bad ones

[pulsar ocean]

The badder one

[distant smelt]

What about conquest, the secret one everyone forgets is supposed to be there?

[cloud ibex]

I still like to imagine that perfect ascensions allow the dragon to live on in the mind of the god

[wheat walrus]

hmm, prolly earthquakes

both storms and quakes are terrible dont get me wrong but earthquakes are kinda

[wanton pendant]

Too similar to war, so who cares. The nuance was lost to time.

[cloud ibex]

Cause I think it would be neat if Xeroc has a tiny mind Zeratros with him that they can talk to

[wanton pendant]

'Yo, Xeroc, eat a burger!'
'I don't want a burger!?'
'I like burgers, please!'

[wheat walrus]

I love War

my favorite of em all

[wanton pendant]

Sundowner:

[wanton pendant]

Is it like Undertale (narrates everything) or like Venom (gay)?

[pulsar ocean]

calamity is not a force for good nor does it care about evil

[cloud ibex]

I guess venom but more in like a friendship sense

[wanton pendant]

Venom's gay, it's the whole point!

[pulsar ocean]

is he tho

[wanton pendant]

At that point it's just... uh... can't think of any other mind backseat gamers.

[wanton pendant]

Yes.

Venom's gay.

[pliant ruin]

me absorbing the auric soul that makes me plural

[wanton pendant]

Gods of Plurality.

Commited pluralism (having multiple parishes) and was put to death by the Godseeker.

[pulsar ocean]

but is he

[wanton pendant]

Yeah.

[wheat walrus]

venomous

[wanton pendant]

Gay people eat brains, they teach you this in gay class where you learn about gay.

Everyone knows that.

[wheat walrus]

waterwraithgaming statement

[mighty zenith]

nail in piccolo's head

[cloud ibex]

Now I’m imagining Silva and the Dragon of Life nerding out over cool bugs together

[wheat walrus]

this made me think of piccolo with an actual nail on his head

[pulsar ocean]

isnt it ironic that the dragon of life died

[mighty zenith]

it works because xeroc and piccolo are both lonely guys who sit in the middle of nowhere

so at least they get to talk to someone

[wanton pendant]

Being life doesn't make you impossible to not be a-life.

[mighty zenith]

true...

[pulsar ocean]

kinda defeats the whole point of being life

[wanton pendant]

Them's the breaks.

[pulsar ocean]

can yharim beat five nights at freddys

[wanton pendant]

Yes.

[split mortar]

Which bosses can or cant grill a chees

[wanton pendant]

Calamitas risks burning it. And she doesn't have a grill.

Draedon has no issues.

Does the Aerie have a grill?

[pulsar ocean]

What if he runs out of power tho

[wanton pendant]

He can fist-fight Freddy.

[leaden bridge]

Tomorrow this is a silksong lore channel just so yk

[split mortar]

Tomorrow i vanish off the internet and play the game

[wheat walrus]

rest in peace melon gun

[leaden bridge]

First we sing

And then we solk

[split mortar]

:calg:

[wheat walrus]

no melon

you bad melon

dont do that

[wanton pendant]

I have a meeting tomorrow, can we postpone Silksong? I also need to beat Hollow Knight, so another delay?

[split mortar]

Wha

[wheat walrus]

fuckitweball your way through hk today

[wheat walrus]

dont do that bad melon

[wanton pendant]

Yeah, don't be British.

[wheat walrus]

also that

[split mortar]

Do what

[wheat walrus]

the bad emote

[split mortar]

Why is calg the bad emote

[wheat walrus]

from the containment chamber

what is in the containment chamber, must stay in the containment chamber

for it can spread the mold to the outside world

[split mortar]

Omni my pfp is an emote there

[wanton pendant]

Yeah, and it's purple, which is cringe.

[wheat walrus]

but it's your pfp first

nonetheless

calg could very well be molded

the mold must be contained

[split mortar]

But spread it…

Would be silly

[wheat walrus]

no

bad melon

that means i will have to cleanse calmain with flame

[wanton pendant]

I played a game about spreading mould.

[wheat walrus]

dont you dare

bad bad melon

[wanton pendant]

Is that Goku?

[split mortar]

Its a ms paint drawing of the character in my pfp as the bwaa emote

[split mortar]

:3

[wanton pendant]

Tiny baby arms.

[wheat walrus]

melon ull be the first one to be cleansed

[split mortar]

Yes the character is
9

[split mortar]

Yes im stupid

[wheat walrus]

bad melon

[wanton pendant]

Why don't they hit the gym, are they stupid?

Get bigger arms.

[split mortar]

I don wanna be buff

[wheat walrus]

youll be crushed and cleansed by a flame to cleanse the very eons

[wanton pendant]

Providence says this only to get beaten up by a drunk guy who lost a bet.

[split mortar]

Im currently being crushed in a vote on if im a catboy or not

[wheat walrus]

i am no providence

[wanton pendant]

I wonder why, British Longhair.

[wheat walrus]

which one is most voted

[split mortar]

Well theres me voting no and all 20 other people having voted yes

[wheat walrus]

dang i thought they were stupider than that over there

[wanton pendant]

Can't argue with democracy.

You're a furry now.

[wheat walrus]

one good choice at least

would catboys count as furries

[split mortar]

[wanton pendant]

Depends on how cat the boys are.

[split mortar]

Idk

[wheat walrus]

how cat is melon gun

[wanton pendant]

Computer, pull up the furry scale.

[wheat walrus]

is it just ears

[split mortar]

According to multiple irl friends my resting face is kinda like :3
and i often pronounce r in words as w…

[wheat walrus]

dang

so you'd say "waah" instead of "raah"

[split mortar]

Idk i dont pay attention to how i say water

[wanton pendant]

Bwitish?

Doesn't have the same ring to it.

[wheat walrus]

dang melon

[wanton pendant]

How's the trial going?

[pliant ruin]

you know what would be funny

[wheat walrus]

next time im making a palico in monster hunter it's gonna be cat melon gun

[split mortar]

[split mortar]

What

[pliant ruin]

gfb hive mind had a dogma balls joke

[wheat walrus]

shouldn't have said what catlon gun

brug

sigmaballs

[split mortar]

5 ye 4 no 8 neut

[wanton pendant]

Foreboding.

[wheat walrus]

huh

did you say it was 20v1 yes

[split mortar]

Thats the catboy one

It the add waterwraith

[wheat walrus]

what's the other one

poor wwg

[wanton pendant]

They're killing me later. I dare them to try.

[wheat walrus]

at least the roleplay was decent ig

[wanton pendant]

Catboy roleplay?

[wheat walrus]

bro

[cloud ibex]

lore discussion

[split mortar]

Im in it but no

[wheat walrus]

ya

[split mortar]

True

[wheat walrus]

remove img rights again

[cloud ibex]

no

[wheat walrus]

calmain aint what it used to be 😔

[pliant ruin]

omni someone should boil you alive

[wanton pendant]

Louie!

[wheat walrus]

ok cheese

[cloud ibex]

killing images would do absolutely nothing

[wheat walrus]

hm no wym

[pliant ruin]

dogma balls

[wheat walrus]

it would solve the problem of offtopic

[split mortar]

Not really

[wheat walrus]

no melon look

[split mortar]

I dont see much images doing that

[wheat walrus]

all these messages

they're imaginary!!!

like images

[split mortar]

🤯

[wheat walrus]

wake up melon gun

[wanton pendant]

An image speaks a thousand words.

[wheat walrus]

been 16 years

[wanton pendant]

So one off topic image is a thousand off topic words.

[cloud ibex]

this channel doesn't go offtopic because of people posting memes or whatever it goes offtopic because people start rambling about shit that has nothing to do with the channel

[wheat walrus]

yep

know what that means

remove texting perms

[wanton pendant]

We can use hieroglyphics.

[split mortar]

Remove all oerms
Look in this place you get auto banned

[wheat walrus]

melon finally making sense

cook more melon gun

[split mortar]

Throw people into blenders

[cloud ibex]

no what i should do is start throwing rocks at people who go too far offtopic

[wheat walrus]

delete calmain

[split mortar]

True

[wanton pendant]

Skeletron Prime.

[wheat walrus]

my lunch

[split mortar]

Chat

[wheat walrus]

leon is mean and throws my lunch at ppl

[pliant ruin]

how it feels

[wanton pendant]

The hell is that?

[wheat walrus]

see cheese posted an image

mute her immediately

[split mortar]

Could there have been other pillars that the dragons killed

[wanton pendant]

Kill!

[wheat walrus]

smoking

[wanton pendant]

Meld Pillar!

[wheat walrus]

cheese shouldnt be promoting smoking

[cloud ibex]

i guess there's nothing explicitly disproving it

[wanton pendant]

Smoking is bad.

[cloud ibex]

nothing that i can think of at least

[wheat walrus]

true

i mean maybe there were like

a bagillion pillars

and the dragons killed most of them

[split mortar]

So theoretically possible but also nothing against it

Thorium fragments had pullars

[wheat walrus]

so to put value on the dragons

rn they kinda fraudulence

[pliant ruin]

thrower pillar was real guys

[wanton pendant]

Thorium Pillars are canon, they're just dead.

[wheat walrus]

green pillar

[pliant ruin]

what the fuck even r the pillars anyways

sso give me new bestiaryentries and my ife is yours

[wanton pendant]

They're Pillars.

[split mortar]

We know they helped ml

[wanton pendant]

And they're not men.

[wheat walrus]

moonlord eggs

[split mortar]

So

[wheat walrus]

baby fovi

[pliant ruin]

the fovean empire

[split mortar]

I think they help fovos by being a army generator

[wanton pendant]

Minecraft Mob Spawner.

[split mortar]

Lmao

[wheat walrus]

they're all baby fovos, fovos is an adult one clearing a space for them to grow

[pliant ruin]

does moon lord just like make them or

can he just do that

[wheat walrus]

they all grow off the energy of terraria and as they do they kill each other

then there's 1 big fovos from it all

[wanton pendant]

I don't think we want the details...

We don't need to know of the Moon Lord's eggs.

[wheat walrus]

and mars was a previous planet that was wrecked by a big fovos who used it to birth all the pillars

[split mortar]

Theres a theory the pillars are of different planets fovos has conquered iirc??
Hence background

[wheat walrus]

the big fovos now coming to us to raise the pillars

or at least, leave them to grow on their own

and kill each other

[pliant ruin]

oh thatd be interesting

ok theroy what if the pillars are like

made out of other planet's world soul

[wanton pendant]

Like Moon Lord killed the martians Theory.

[pliant ruin]

ml eats them

turns into pillar

yum

[wheat walrus]

that implies they're powerful as fuck

[split mortar]

Would explain why fovos nuked the aurics

[split mortar]

Inmean

[wheat walrus]

maybe they're like a fragment

[split mortar]

Endless army

[wheat walrus]

like

like auric souls

[wheat walrus]

yes but 1 world soul as we know it is the source of all auric souls combined

[pliant ruin]

tbf maybe other planets just have skill issue and have worse world souls 🥀

[wheat walrus]

dont you think if a pillar was a world soul converted that it'd beat the shit out of even xeroc

[wanton pendant]

Fovos is secretly alternate timeline Xeroc where instead of Primordial Light it was Squid.

[wheat walrus]

kreenge

[split mortar]

Possible

Wait chat

[pliant ruin]

Like

[wheat walrus]

why is our planet the chosen one

ok ok actually

[split mortar]

Solar pillar means there was/is possibly another sun out there

[wheat walrus]

that'd be like irl

[wanton pendant]

Plot reasons.

[pliant ruin]

Terraria has a ton of life diversity and different biomes and lotsa stuff

Then you have like

Uranus

[wheat walrus]

true earth is the only planet with life for plot reasons too

[wanton pendant]

Pluto.

[pliant ruin]

theres uh

ice

gas

yep

[wheat walrus]

urmom:

[wanton pendant]

We even have an antagonist (England).

[pliant ruin]

omni

[wheat walrus]

we also have a superboss (france)

[real silo]

urmomni

[wheat walrus]

weak

[real silo]

No earth's superboss is israel

[wheat walrus]

israel is the final boss

france is the hidden super boss

[wanton pendant]

That's Providence.

[real silo]

what the fuck..

[wheat walrus]

providence isn't on earth

[split mortar]

Yeah she is obviously flying

[real silo]

Providence rhode island

[wheat walrus]

ti distruggo

[wheat walrus]

isn't real

trust me

[leaden bridge]

moonlord is actually secretly yharim's like third removed cousin

[real silo]

You're not real

[pliant ruin]

redigit type beat

[leaden bridge]

hes got like a wild family history because of that time a distortion creature arrived in terraria

[split mortar]

Yeah i think this is prob more the defining factor of world souls then
Planet big

[leaden bridge]

you dont really want to know about that its kinda ugly

[wheat walrus]

Neko! Enderpikmin Endlessvoid 🌌 is onto something

[wanton pendant]

Moon Lord's Gay Theory and 'Lord' is short for Gaylord.

[wheat walrus]

moonlord is only the son of gaylord

[split mortar]

This chat was good for 2 minutes 💔

[wanton pendant]

Not my fault.

[wheat walrus]

it stopped being good when you meloned all over the place

[pliant ruin]

world soul of planetr 359X-B20

it has the domains of uh

gray rock

slightly darker gray rock

[wheat walrus]

bad melon

[leaden bridge]

the notion this chat is good 💔

[wheat walrus]

Neko! Enderpikmin Endlessvoid 🌌 onto something again

[wanton pendant]

It's good when we discuss the psychology of Yharim and Calamitas and how they are narrative parallels of eachother.

[pliant ruin]

I enjoy talking here when i don't feel like i can say things without it being derailed into nonsense

[wheat walrus]

green

[wanton pendant]

Kill.

[split mortar]

Peak domain

[wheat walrus]

domain expansion

[leaden bridge]

well yeah it's what all the mountains r made of

[wanton pendant]

That was from Mars. (Tallest Mountain.)

[split mortar]

That or other sources of primordial light exist other then a sun

[wanton pendant]

Jacob 'Primordial' Light.

[leaden bridge]

well obviously theres another sun out there is does calamitys world not have other solar systems now

[wheat walrus]

it doesnt because i eat them for breakfast

[wanton pendant]

There may be stars, but suns are harder to prove.

[leaden bridge]

thats acceptalbe

[wanton pendant]

Astrum Deus:

[leaden bridge]

well cant there be suns that just arent like terrarias

maybe its just like special boy

[wanton pendant]

Then they'd be stars?

Or something else entirely.

[wheat walrus]

how it feel having known what the sun is in calamity for like a year and it still not being pbulic

[leaden bridge]

yeha so, theyd still be suns because a sun is defined by being a sun and not primordial light magic like is what we're saying

[split mortar]

I imagine a sun not having primordial light would be noteworthy enough to classify it as something else

[wanton pendant]

Moon Lord's Brother, Sun Lord.

[wheat walrus]

innocence

[wanton pendant]

Not in Calamity.

[leaden bridge]

well we wouldnt know that because terraria's sun might be the anomalous one

[wheat walrus]

ill just say it is

[leaden bridge]

the world soul itself is already assummedly pretty anomalous on its own

[wanton pendant]

Fine, it is the World Soul turned into a big screwed up thing. I call this Sun's Haunted Theory.

[wanton pendant]

Is that Goku?

[split mortar]

Solar fragments are primordial light or contain it so another source outside our sun exists

[wanton pendant]

Green Lantern.

[leaden bridge]

is this like true though

[split mortar]

Yeah
And then cei outright confirmed it once people theorised it

[leaden bridge]

wdk lore every time we look at this channel there's something else we're just supposed to assume is objectively correct and

oh!

well then thats awkard

wouldnt solar fragments be assumedly much stronger than the rest then

the rest r just normal star power and whatever vortex is

[wanton pendant]

The best lore is the stuff I make up and pass off as real. Nobody has noticed 'Noxus' isn't a real thing in the lore yet.

[wheat walrus]

yea

noxus hasnt been mentioned once ingame

[leaden bridge]

its true

[wheat walrus]

just hinted at like

a few times

name was just given to us by devs since it's the one major thing from old lore that wasn't namedropped ingame

[leaden bridge]

it's really exactly like john wulfrum

[wheat walrus]

truly

[wanton pendant]

I made him up, all mentions are references to Xeroc, actually.

[wheat walrus]

john wulfrum will be mentioned ingame before noxus

call it

[cloud ibex]

i mean if you count internal things he technically is

[wanton pendant]

Johnathan Wulfrum III, on the other hand, is integral to the lore.

[cloud ibex]

with the wulfrum set easter egg thing if your character name is john wulfrum

[leaden bridge]

we mean we all remember his contributions to like, the war

[wheat walrus]

PERFECT

[wanton pendant]

He fought Yharim himself, in a desperate last stand to save his people. I remember how he watched Yharim kill his father, Johnathan 'Johnny' Wulfrum II.

Cinema.

[long bloom]

✋😐 🤚

[leaden bridge]

anyways if suns and stars are like completely different types of celestial objects then like do calamity stars not generate warmth or can life only develop with primordial light or are stars not dense enough to get planets around them or are there indeed suns that are just stars instead of suns and it doesnt really matter it's just suns are primordial light things anf i you get a bitch baby star solar system youre just in low power baby hell

[wheat walrus]

welp

[wanton pendant]

I think Calamity stars are small.

[wheat walrus]

stars in calamity are much smaller

[leaden bridge]

surely not all of them

[fallen kindle]

how do we know

[wanton pendant]

I think in Embers it's mentioned that one isn't that much bigger than Providence.

[leaden bridge]

unless terraria's night sky is illuminated by stars infinitely closer than ours

[wheat walrus]

for all we know, they can range from literally just being the fallen stars we pick up, all the way to the astral meteor for the larger ones

[split mortar]

iirc cei revealed the sun orbits the planet

[wanton pendant]

And also, Astrum Deus flings one at us.

[leaden bridge]

alternatively all those stars are suns

which is fun!

[fallen kindle]

who’s cei

[wheat walrus]

the astral meteor being a star that developed too old and grew astral infection

[wheat walrus]

lead writer

[split mortar]

A
Lore writer

[wheat walrus]

i mean, prolly

[leaden bridge]

yeah but irl stars come in plenty of sizes

[fallen kindle]

Oh ok

[wanton pendant]

Not a few meters across.

[leaden bridge]

well yeah but still wouldnt mean there are not big stars

[wanton pendant]

That's called a black hole when stars do that.

[fallen kindle]

yes

[wanton pendant]

Stars are regularly eaten by space worms

Probably.

[wheat walrus]

many fall every night

[wheat walrus]

there could be

[wanton pendant]

Therefore, space is filled with mana to keep producing stars. Therefore, Space's Haunted Theory.

[wheat walrus]

melon's haunted

[leaden bridge]

well space is clearly haunted

it's got like aliens on it

[wanton pendant]

Only a few.

[leaden bridge]

wait if the, if the sun orbits around the planet, how does martian ,s work

[wanton pendant]

And aliens aren't ghosts, silly.

[wanton pendant]

The martians get a bit quirky at night.

[leaden bridge]

do the martians live in a planet with a fucking stupid as hell orbit

[split mortar]

Sun orbit planet

[wanton pendant]

Mars orbits Terraria, obviously.

[split mortar]

More

[split mortar]

Uhh idk
Maybe planets orbit eachother in a stable orbit somehow idk

[leaden bridge]

clearly mars orbits the sun which orbits terraria

[split mortar]

💔

[leaden bridge]

except the universe isnt geocentric as a whole its just that specific arrangement

[split mortar]

The distortion orbits terraria

[wanton pendant]

Distortion is in the Moon Theory.

[leaden bridge]

thats not even in conventional space

[wheat walrus]

terraria orbits my planet

[split mortar]

Still orbits terraria
Somehow

Gotta say it for the agenda

[wanton pendant]

Xeroc has to push the sun around the planet every day, and nobody says thank you.

[leaden bridge]

ah that's why they couldnt do anthign about the wars and shit

too busy doing that

[wanton pendant]

Exactly.

If you leave the sun in one spot too long, bad stuff happens.

So Xeroc is busy Sisyphusmaxxing.

[leaden bridge]

well yeah it gets too hot and the other side too cold

[split mortar]

The stuff was
Empress of light was gonna inflict daybroken in day next update (a solar debuff) and is known for using primordial light at day
So
Solar and primordial light likely had a connection (ignore the name being solar shush)
Then cei confirmed it

This why jared not jump us

[wanton pendant]

We still need to nail down what the hell Chaos Elementals are.

[tropic oak]

the solar pillar is clearly the dragon of flame

[wanton pendant]

Solar Pillar killed my grandma, ok?

[split mortar]

Ignore the existence of providence

[tropic oak]

who gaf about providence

all my homies love The Dragon of Flame

[wanton pendant]

Someone does.

[tropic oak]

fuck ive got to add the dragon of wrath now

sighhhhhh

[split mortar]

Wha

[wanton pendant]

Dragon of Bureaucracy.

[split mortar]

5 5 9

[leaden bridge]

We're confused now

[wanton pendant]

They're voting on entombing me.

Either that or the catboy poll has had a change in course.

[violet sparrow]

me when i love overcomplicating pointless details that only create more pointless questions because of my insistence on mistakenly establishing worldbuilding details

[wanton pendant]

What?

[violet sparrow]

???

[split mortar]

Wha

[split mortar]

What

[violet sparrow]

why does the sun orbit the

planet

is it even a planet

[wanton pendant]

Sun's magic.

[split mortar]

Terraria is a planet

[violet sparrow]

no why

[wanton pendant]

Because it's made of magic light.

[violet sparrow]

not how in universe

[split mortar]

Idk i dont have the devs notes and we will get info of that in sso so we cant really judge its impact on the narrative till then

[wanton pendant]

Because it's cool.

[violet sparrow]

thats how most of it seems to go

[wheat walrus]

starting to have a bit of criticism for the current state of lore info handling icl

[tropic oak]

well, it is two years old now

[wanton pendant]

Yharim paid Calamitas in Robux.

[tropic oak]

true

[wheat walrus]

i know that there was a refusal to drop real info because it's meant to be kept for big updates and spoiling things isn't great, but also these updates to add lore are not coming at all and haven't for a year and a half (no blame on anyone for this)

and i think the "dev statement epidemic" as ill call it now only makes it worse, because it's nothing set-in-stone, they tend to be inconsistent across devs and become dated quickly, and in cases tend to raise questions rather than answer, not the speculative kind of question but the consistency kind of questions
i know there were always dev statements left and right, but it definitely intensified with the drought

i dont think devs suddenly have to start spoiling future update stuff, unless they really want to, but i find lore discussion to be kind of annoying as it is bc it's turning into a game of stating thing, "source?", and it's not from the game and instead is a random msg from a dev on discord months ago that will likely be contradicted by several more because nothing about them is set-in-stone

just becomes very confusing

[cloud ibex]

even if dev statements weren't kinda inconsistent sometimes i think it's kinda unfortunate that so much shit has been revealed exclusively in here

[wheat walrus]

yes

i think the inconsistency because they're not definitive only makes it worse

[cloud ibex]

cause there's no way to know about a Lot of things currently other than happening to be here when a writer goes off

[wheat walrus]

i dont want them to do big spoiling for what's actually set-in-stone

[strange stump]

hi omni

[wheat walrus]

but also dropping info that will likely be contradicted causes confusion

[wheat walrus]

hi space

[strange stump]

@mighty zenith hi garbo!

[wheat walrus]

so i think

[brazen swallow]

oh yeah

[mighty zenith]

haiii

[young socket]

@strange stump hi space!

@mighty zenith hi stinky!

[strange stump]

hello!

[mighty zenith]

hi tsupid!

[young socket]

UR TSUPID

GO BACK TO UR HK RANDOMISER

TUPID

[wheat walrus]

either seal the furnace or only release what's full-baked and not half-baked to be contradicted by another half-baked

[split mortar]

Hello soace

[wheat walrus]

i mentioned making a dev statement comp doc days ago

but also

that doc would become obsolete

would also have to be updated very regularly, that's not the biggest issue though

id talk about straight up crossing dev statements out of discussions about what is set-in-stone

but also gl doing that

[wanton pendant]

But without dev statements... where does that leave Birthday Theory!?

[wheat walrus]

it's hard to ignore the closest-to-set-in-stone answer there is if you know it exists

[split mortar]

-# yeah it is

[wheat walrus]

anyways as i said

either close the dev statement furnace or open it only to release smaller chunks of stuff that is set-in-stone

dialogue teasers are one thing

[split mortar]

Cei release the entire perma dialogue tree

[wanton pendant]

My theory is that the devs are also going insane trying to keep things under wraps.

[wheat walrus]

one writer saying one thing months ago to briefly answer a question is another

[wheat walrus]

yep

yep

definitely

i would not be able to keep things under wrap for that long with how slow development has been

[split mortar]

Oh they are they have on occasion said sso cant come out quick enough iirc

[wanton pendant]

Much as I'm going insane trying to figure out if the year is 1887 or not.

[leaden bridge]

😌

[cloud ibex]

yea no i think i remember one of them stating outright that they hate not being able to talk about the shit they've been doing for the last year+

[wheat walrus]

yea

[split mortar]

No one happy

[leaden bridge]

What if the game starts in 86 and ends in 87

[wanton pendant]

That could work, I guess.

I have considered it before.

[brazen swallow]

it ends with fnaf (funny number)

[wanton pendant]

Luckily, Birthday Theory is here to back me up. May God have mercy if it's wrong.

[brazen swallow]

jokes aside the player's activities taking only a year would be pretty impressive

[cloud ibex]

i tend to imagine it takes like

a couple years maybe

[split mortar]

Thats still fucking crazy

[wanton pendant]

I was getting like, six months.

[cloud ibex]

gives some time between boss fights so everything gets some breathing room

[leaden bridge]

Draedon says Yharim is probably dying before someone else like us raises to power, if it truly only took a year then Yharim is dying in like 5 months and that's pretty funny

[split mortar]

🔥

[leaden bridge]

just wait for him to pass bro

[wanton pendant]

Yeah but then we don't get to make OUR idealogy rise from the ashes.

By taking his place in the ensuing power vacuum.

[wheat walrus]

honestly i think it's fine if they start revealing more info that's meant to come with this update, set-in-stone info that is, like make a smaller doc with some of the complete stuff they're fine w revealing instead of vague discord statements

i get the not wanting to spoil things but 1, this update is looking like it's meant to be huge on lore, so there should be lots of room, 2, it's been years, i remember this update being talked about as early as 2023, 3, it's one update out of multiple future updates, meaning even more room, 4, the dev statements half-do that while also causing confusion in the long run

[leaden bridge]

You do because you're the strongest thing around anyways

[split mortar]

Waterwraith im throwing you against the wall like a spamton olush

[wanton pendant]

You lack the power.

[split mortar]

You will have milk jugs poured on thee

[wanton pendant]

That won't slow my roll.

[leaden bridge]

We mean what's unnamed god 12 gonna do about it

They're probably out the continent anyways

[wanton pendant]

Unnamed God 12 has got a great power! (Automobiles.)

[leaden bridge]

Ah that's why 1.4.5 adds a car

[split mortar]

Bergentruck the power

[icy veldt]

God of piss. Responsible for the Piss Moon that's added by the World of Piss mod

[wanton pendant]

Ivo.

[split mortar]

[cloud ibex]

☹️

[leaden bridge]

We mean

[icy veldt]

It's a real mod

[leaden bridge]

A god of waste isn't an unreasonable domain

[cloud ibex]

i suppose

[thick slate]

god of poop

[leaden bridge]

Yeah

[cloud ibex]

though the only real thing i can imagine Waste being derived from is Gluttony

[robust osprey]

thats you

[thick slate]

is there a calamity version of dionysus

[cloud ibex]

and that one's already taken

[robust osprey]

goddess of poop

[wanton pendant]

Dragon of Pollution.

[icy veldt]

Was there ever just a god of disease or pestilence, or like, a god of resilience to disease?

[wanton pendant]

God of Alcoholism.

[thick slate]

self insert

[icy veldt]

Thinking of something like Nurgle

[cloud ibex]

maybe

[wanton pendant]

There were like, under three thousand gods so, yeah.

[cloud ibex]

if there was they'd probably be among the first to be tossed in the meat grinder

[wanton pendant]

God of Treachery threw the others under the bus.

[icy veldt]

Yep. A deity that blesses its servants with resilience to disease, but also spreads pestilence intentionally to get more followers.

[wanton pendant]

'Flesh of Infidelity' is a weapon dropped by the Perforators. What does this mean for God of War?

[icy veldt]

He cheated on his wife?

[wanton pendant]

Wife?

[icy veldt]

Or husband?

[robust osprey]

this was influenced by Xeroc

[icy veldt]

Or NB spouse???

[zenith geode]

tbf its a pretty good way of getting followers

[wanton pendant]

God of War cheated on Xeroc!?

[robust osprey]

no

[icy veldt]

Grifter gods Gotta admire the hustle

[robust osprey]

Xeroc cheated on the god of war

[zenith geode]

moral? fuck no
but effective? probably

[wanton pendant]

God of Pyramids (shemes).

[zenith geode]

giving everyone super cancer and then giving the people who worship me chemo

[thick slate]

some cancer cant be cured by chemo

[wanton pendant]

God Chemo.

[robust osprey]

super chemo

[zenith geode]

its not regular cancer though

[icy veldt]

I'm gonna have Draedon do the same thing with the Plague just to fund rebuilding

[thick slate]

okay?

chemo still dont

[icy veldt]

Pretty sure it was a metaphorical description

[thick slate]

no care

[wanton pendant]

Mean.

[thick slate]

mhm

[icy veldt]

I will vaporize you

[thick slate]

oki

[robust osprey]

Taylor, you will be smashed to death with hammers

[wanton pendant]

Yay!

[thick slate]

like mallets

or

sledgehammer

[tropic oak]

hi

[wanton pendant]

Hello.

[long bloom]

ball peen hammers

[thick slate]

or normal hammer

oki

that works

[robust osprey]

all 3

[cloud ibex]

lore discussion

[thick slate]

why they call it ball peen

[robust osprey]

loreus

[tropic oak]

lore discussion

[thick slate]

what the fuck

ball peen

[wanton pendant]

Meat Mallet, you're lunch.

[long bloom]

the peen is the prongs that let you remove nails

the ball is idk

[thick slate]

ball peen

i ripped the epidermis of my thumb off

problem

[wanton pendant]

That's bad.

[thick slate]

yea

[wanton pendant]

Don't do that in future.

[thick slate]

thanks

[icy veldt]

I'm going to fund the rebuilding of society by having Draedon make a pain-inflicting version of the Nanoplague, and then sell temporary treatment for the money to finance my empire!

[robust osprey]

I dont think draedon needa to do that

[icy veldt]

No, I need him to do that

[robust osprey]

just sell futuristic machines to non-dead continents

[thick slate]

draedon is a clanker

[zenith geode]

wouldnt he be able to make exocash

and then its so good that everyone starts using it

[wanton pendant]

Superior Iron Man moment.

[icy veldt]

If I just had Draedon make infinite exocash, then exocash would lose its value and become worthless

[robust osprey]

then dont make infinite exocash

simple

[wanton pendant]

Make a finite supply, and hoard most of it.

[thick slate]

theres blood in m y alcohol system

[wanton pendant]

That's bad.

[thick slate]

ikr

get it out

[icy veldt]

I'll need to incentivize obedience, so I guess I could tie the treatment to a social credit score

[wanton pendant]

More Guinness.

[robust osprey]

I will rip out that blood

[thick slate]

i unfortunately had no guinness tonight

[robust osprey]

so your alcohol system is fine

[long bloom]

lore discussion

[wanton pendant]

What else is there to drink?

[thick slate]

mhm

[thick slate]

i had a bunch of cocktails

[icy veldt]

Blood, of course!

[thick slate]

cosmos

long islands

midori

[wanton pendant]

Blood ain't Guinness, won't substitute.

[thick slate]

vodka rebull

[wanton pendant]

Your heart is going to explode.

[thick slate]

if beer is piss then guinness is shit

[wanton pendant]

What!?

[icy veldt]

Coffee with hard stimulants mixed into it

[cloud ibex]

if you're gonna talk about alcohol can you take it to gen talk or something please

[icy veldt]

True!

[long bloom]

lore discussion

[thick slate]

yea but no ones there and it makes me sad

[wanton pendant]

Can we talk about Calamity alcohol?

[icy veldt]

Um, no

[long bloom]

grape beer sucks

[tropic oak]

source?

source?

[long bloom]

mitosis

[icy veldt]

Probably still a sore topic, I think

[wanton pendant]

I never really used any of the Calamity alcohol.

[thick slate]

mi love mitosis

[icy veldt]

Me when I have Draedon build a second cloning biolab so I can build a new Azafure and populate it entirely with 500,000 new Calamitas clones

[wanton pendant]

Why can Terrarian only have three drinks before getting alcohol poisoning? That implies they are a lightweight, and as such is inalienable proof that Terrarian has lore, that being can't handle alcohol.

[cloud ibex]

i mean i don't really see much you can say about alcohol in terms of lore

they're kinda just

alcohol

[wanton pendant]

So there's a few issues with that.

[long bloom]

not to worry, i know exactly how to get us back on topic

what does yharon taste like

[wanton pendant]

Chicken.

[cloud ibex]

☹️

[wanton pendant]

Next question.

[icy veldt]

If they're moral issues, then I don't care

[wanton pendant]

No, it's that that society can't really last that long.

Also, the obvious violation of autonomy, but you don't really care.

[icy veldt]

Have the cloning machines running continuously to keep up the population

[wanton pendant]

At that point just promote immigration, it'd be cheaper probably.

[robust osprey]

the moment any of those clones interact with Scal they're all going to go insane beacuse Scal magic fuckery

[icy veldt]

An entire city of people with the exact same face would be funny to me

[icy veldt]

Only if Scal wants to do any magic fuckery

[wanton pendant]

Depends on how the power transfer works.

Which we don't know.

[robust osprey]

no it just kind of happens

highly doubt Scal did it on purpose tbh

[icy veldt]

Source?????

[wanton pendant]

We don't know that.

It could be accidental, Calamitas may have been trying to empower her clone, maybe the clone tried to take her power for herself for safety.

[robust osprey]

I like the later

[icy veldt]

Maybe she was like "Go. Be free! Have some of my power... aw shit AW SHIT"

[wanton pendant]

'I can taste my own blood and it's on fire!'

[long bloom]

burning blood debuff

[thick slate]

real

[icy veldt]

The last one doesn't work because the clone was just ordinary and couldn't manually siphon Cal1's power

[wanton pendant]

Not without the handy dandy power Draedon left right next to her holding cell.

[icy veldt]

Uh huh

I think Cal1 tried to empower Cal2 and went a bit too hard and/or encountered unexpected consequences

[thick slate]

cal3

[wanton pendant]

Calamitas' powers work on Bluetooth logic and it tried to pair with the clone.

That's the one people will be saying is totally real for years.

[icy veldt]

Cal3 and onwards will be the population of Azafure2

[wanton pendant]

Then they make Mega Calamitastwo and people think it's Calamitasthree.

[tropic oak]

all magic is bluetooth

[icy veldt]

Bones are like teeth but blue???

[tropic oak]

you know if you take the concept of Wifi / Bluetooth and swap around the terminology used to describe it with fantasy vernacular, you could make a pretty good magic system outta that

[limpid saddle]

I've always thought it was an accident, like how Calamitas siphoned power from the Brimstone Elemental

[wanton pendant]

I mean, Wifi exists in Calamity.

[icy veldt]

Blue tooth, yellow femur, red spine, green collarbone, barbecued ribs

[wanton pendant]

Assuming that's how it happened.

[limpid saddle]

Because how could Calamitas know how to 'bestow' her magic?

[long bloom]

we dunno if that was an accident either

[thick slate]

ribs are overratedf

[icy veldt]

You need to try human ribs, then

[wanton pendant]

They teach it in Magic Class?

Ribs grow back.

[thick slate]

what else do people eat

[limpid saddle]

How do you intentionally look at the horrible demon ravaging the land & screaming really loud 'I FUCKING HATE YOU & WANT YOU TO DIE' & then siphon their magic like a sponge

[long bloom]

that's awfully presumptuous

[icy veldt]

Me omw to blood-eagle Yharim as punishment

[wanton pendant]

Second Brimstone Elemental gave her the power, obviously.

[tropic oak]

timeline

[icy veldt]

There's another one???