#lore-discussion

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light linden
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yes but chrysadia also died 800 years ago

long bloom
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so there's potions that do appear in nature??????

light linden
long bloom
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yeah lemme just get my ironskin from the fucking potion plant

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what

light linden
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likely diluted to all hell

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but like

wanton pendant
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Like 300 years later.

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Let me check the document.

zenith geode
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well monkeys make booze in trees

light linden
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some potions aren't complex to craft

split mortar
long bloom
thick slate
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nah but think about it

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if fish and plant and water are needed for potion

light linden
tropic oak
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what the fuck r u people talking about

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LOL

wanton pendant
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No, wait, misremembered, they were around the same age.

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300 years in was when the outer islands got colonized.

zenith geode
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alright but you probably need to mash and grind the stuff up

thick slate
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i feel like most fish would interact with most plants

thick slate
tropic oak
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thats great buddy

zenith geode
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you cant tell me that just putting a mushroom in water makes it a healing potion

long bloom
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i need to be high for this convo

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jesus

light linden
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the ingredients for ammo reservation potions are all in the jungle

wanton pendant
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I'm still trying to figure out what the doomsayers want to do to me.

thick slate
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literally if all the ingredients fall into some water

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they would eventually become weak diluted version

long bloom
light linden
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same with the endurance potion

thick slate
long bloom
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that's not how brewing works

thick slate
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it happens irl

tropic oak
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309 to beeeee exactttttt

thick slate
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its how chemistry works

light linden
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and gill potion

zenith geode
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you have to grind shit into a powder and heat it

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and also stir it

light linden
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and inferno potion

wanton pendant
light linden
tropic oak
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here

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lol

light linden
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where's the heat come from

thick slate
zenith geode
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similar to how you make liquid compounds irl

light linden
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you don't need a furnace to make a potion

split mortar
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Damn this quote old

light linden
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or a campfire

tropic oak
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melon

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we really gotta get the doc out bro

split mortar
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Yes

tropic oak
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😭

light linden
split mortar
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Truep

long bloom
wanton pendant
# tropic oak here

"The Chrysonai acquired the ability to travel between Sky Islands as early as the 1st
century UC (0-100 UC)." Are you sure?

tropic oak
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forget UC

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we dont gaf about UC

zenith geode
long bloom
thick slate
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fish in pond

light linden
wanton pendant
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Oh wait this is a different calender.

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Damn it.

tropic oak
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yes

thick slate
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makes mixing

long bloom
light linden
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you just need a bottle and a workbench to make potions

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right?

thick slate
zenith geode
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the definition of a pond is that it doesnt have a current

long bloom
thick slate
long bloom
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give an example

zenith geode
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the closest irl analogue to natural potions that we have is monkey booze i think

thick slate
wanton pendant
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Guinness.

thick slate
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idk have you seen a pond

split mortar
long bloom
wanton pendant
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We have the document.

thick slate
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literally if it rains

wanton pendant
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It says they traded with Azafure.

split mortar
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Ima go get tea and try stuff on that doc

Watwerwraithgaming i wish you luck on getting assimilated

wanton pendant
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Of course you're getting tea.

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WHAT!?

tropic oak
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so i might save it for an expanded universe doc

wanton pendant
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And the hell do you mean assimilated!?

split mortar
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Infinite documents infinite documents infinite documents

tropic oak
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true

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well, i dont have to make another document

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i can just. make another tab

thick slate
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private calamity subcommunity server #284

icy veldt
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You're going to get nanomachined

wanton pendant
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But you already can't hurt me, Jack!?

icy veldt
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Dark future where Draedon improves the Plague so it adapts itself to other lifeforms, and then it takes over the world

wanton pendant
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Why doesn't Draedon hit the emergency shut off switch? Is he stupid?

split mortar
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It already adapts

split mortar
thick slate
icy veldt
wanton pendant
split mortar
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It does infect other lifeforms?

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Its not just bees

wanton pendant
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The turtles too.

thick slate
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turtles arent an animal

wanton pendant
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Like some kind of... mutant turtles...

icy veldt
wanton pendant
icy veldt
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Will it be able to infect humanoid life at any point?

wanton pendant
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I'd assume weaker humans are fair game.

split mortar
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Theres a debuff from it doing that

wanton pendant
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But we're just too strong, you know, because we eat our vegetables.

icy veldt
thick slate
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did you

wanton pendant
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(Technically, viruses aren't actually alive.)

tropic oak
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you guys wouldnt happen to know if we have a genuine name for yharim's empire do we

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and dont say The Crusade

tropic oak
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great ok

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thank you

thick slate
wanton pendant
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It's annoying that something that should be well known is hidden from us.

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His Unholy Unroman Unempire.

icy veldt
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What I meant was: will the Plague be able to infect and take over even stronger humans at any point in the future?

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Does it adapt to people's strengths in order to work around them?

wanton pendant
icy veldt
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So if you fight it off the first time, you might not be able to at a later time

thick slate
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is the plague nanobot

fallen kindle
wanton pendant
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Nanomachines, son!

thick slate
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they jump around

fallen kindle
fallen kindle
wanton pendant
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What they don't do that disqualifies them from being alive is reproduce, they rely on making their host recreate them.

thick slate
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a couple other things too

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but slay

icy veldt
thick slate
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speak for urself

tropic oak
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what the fuckre you people talking about bro

wanton pendant
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New announcement: Don't spoil Silk Song. Clearly Silk Song has lore details.

thick slate
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meow

fallen kindle
wanton pendant
icy veldt
wanton pendant
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Textile Ballad.

icy veldt
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vs Mylar Melody

tropic oak
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accept my friend request so i can dm you . im running an experiment

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do not resist

icy veldt
wanton pendant
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This again?

tropic oak
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just for now!

thick slate
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i eat chalk

fallen kindle
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they do that there

untold oracle
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Oh hai taylor

thick slate
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mighty kazakhstan

thick slate
fallen kindle
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oh

thick slate
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should i go to kazakhstan

untold oracle
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Mmrrp

icy veldt
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What happened to Kazakhstan in Calamity lore?

fallen kindle
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why’s everyone saying hi to taylor does she appear like once in 5 years?

thick slate
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no

fallen kindle
thick slate
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i was gone for like 29 minutes

icy veldt
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That's like several years in Internet time

thick slate
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my fans adore me

wanton pendant
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I don't want to talk about Kazakhstan, after the incident...

fallen kindle
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what incident

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what’s the incident

split mortar
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Whats our knowledge on the onyx kinsmen

wanton pendant
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I don't want to talk about it, obviously.

fallen kindle
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why not

icy veldt
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"Kazakhstan ugrozhayet nam bombardirovki" - Kazakhstan threatens us with bombardment

wanton pendant
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It cost me a year.

fallen kindle
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bro what are you talking about

icy veldt
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Jesse what the fuck are you talking about?

wanton pendant
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The incident.

thick slate
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racing inchide t

fallen kindle
icy veldt
wanton pendant
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It wasn't in Kazakhstan, but it did involve it.

icy veldt
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*boils you*

fallen kindle
thick slate
wanton pendant
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No this actually happened.

icy veldt
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Wait what

fallen kindle
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I’m going to sleep now

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gn people

thick slate
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goobnight

leaden bridge
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many folks, many folks are saying, they're saying i killed innocent people, that's not right, folks, they weren't innocent, they followed the gods, and you know that's just, that's just unforgivable of them, and they're saying, they say i'll go to hell, and it might be true

tropic oak
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true

leaden bridge
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we're glad you agree

split mortar
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whats our knowledge on war god

wanton pendant
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Probably liked war. And marble.

split mortar
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so is it just that they make up the perfs

long bloom
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yeah that's literally it

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we only have the one triangle message

split mortar
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lol

limpid saddle
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I mean tbh there's kind of inherently more to go off with 'God Of Dogma' than 'God Of War'

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the latter, while having many interpretations is a pretty generic/homogenous idea

long bloom
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with god of war, the name's on the tin

icy veldt
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Do we know the name of the God of War?

long bloom
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nope

leaden bridge
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frederingtong the third

wanton pendant
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Goddart Warter Esquire.

icy veldt
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I know it's not Kratos, because it obviously isn't that

long bloom
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there's still 4 unnamed gods lol

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and 7 unnamed dragons

icy veldt
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Would be funny if it were something that sounds identical to "wheat" when spoken out loud, but is merely spelled differently

leaden bridge
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if you want to get technical there slike 3 thousand

icy veldt
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Because Khorne from 40K sounds like "corn" when pronounced

wheat walrus
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🌽

tropic oak
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actively figuring out calamity timeline shenanigans is killing me

split mortar
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sounds like hell from the bit i heard

tropic oak
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who decided that the years of 1803 to 1887 needed so much shit

icy veldt
split mortar
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fuck it chat go theorise this im bored

wanton pendant
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He's like, a schemer.

supple storm
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/j

icy veldt
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Signuh balls

split mortar
wanton pendant
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What the hell are you doing. Am I going to be fed to lions or what?

split mortar
wanton pendant
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I... never claimed as such?

split mortar
wanton pendant
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How many polls are you running?

split mortar
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Uhhh
Idk

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I think just those two atm

wanton pendant
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Alright, British Shorthair.

split mortar
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The fuck you mean by short hair

wanton pendant
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Ok, fine, British Longhair.

icy veldt
wanton pendant
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Out.

split mortar
wanton pendant
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Are you sure?

icy veldt
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In Terraria, there are no coincidences. There is only the storm that winnows the faithful from the heretic

warm gull
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there are no coincidences except the item drop rates apparently

naive storm
wanton pendant
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Provoking?

naive storm
naive storm
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I am reclaimer of my name
Born in flames, I have been blessed
My family crest is a demon of death
Forsakened, I am awakened
A phoenix's ash in dark divine
Descending misery
Destiny chasing time

eager bluff
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why are you vergil

naive storm
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?

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Bcs i like the character and Devil May cry is my favorite game franchise

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And Devil may cry 5 for me is the best game ever created

wanton pendant
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*Pikmin 2.

pulsar ocean
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glad she died actually

wanton pendant
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She does, she's Super Turbo Hitler.

thick slate
frail hearth
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I've got comfort foods not nessesarailly a favorite meal

frail hearth
cloud ibex
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Her relevancy is showing that not all gods were good

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Would be pretty boring if all of them were chill and Yharim was just a stupid dickhead for no reason

frail hearth
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I mean i'd argue we don't have a lot of details on any good gods, with the exception of Silva, who's vaguely implied to be chill and spends her afterlife helping fish adapt to dreadon's competitive pollution hobby.

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Like other than her all we've got is yahrim's word which is biased against gods for obvious reasons.

jaunty wraith
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Will Silva ever regenerate fully?

frail hearth
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imo prolly. she's a god of life afterall. across fictions and mythologies it's usually pretty hard to actually down an embodiment of life outside of like retconning their existance from reality

jaunty wraith
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So there are more evil gods

frail hearth
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...I've got the lore doc tabbed, my memory's proved rather spotty these past couple days and my gut's telling me it's time to review the homework >m<

cloud ibex
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Before he got tossed in the meat grinder he was a 100% chill guy who quite literally sacrificed himself so his followers wouldn’t be killed by Yharim

cloud ibex
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It’ll just take a while

jaunty wraith
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I think alot of the smaller lore bits and world building still gets shifted around

frail hearth
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do you think it'd be sped up if like somebody took a bunch of planty mush and made a lil gross snowman outta it? >u>

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o godess of life. i present thee a vessal!

BEHOLD. GOO AND SLIME!!!!!

jaunty wraith
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Just let it happen naturally

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Some tried to defy the cycle of life with a god...

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Didn't work well

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We dont want Silva to come back as a twisted version of life like the ravager came back a twisted version of sacrifice

cloud ibex
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I mean

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Technically Silva isn’t dead

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She’s as close as she probably could be but you can’t really kill her unless you kill all life on the planet including yourself

jaunty wraith
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My point is I thibk trying to force a regen faster could be a bad idea

frail hearth
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do we know what she looked like in her pre-fishfood era?

jaunty wraith
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We got a piece of art not to long ago

frail hearth
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I've been picturing a curvy ent lady with clothing similar to dryad's

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orly? :0

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where's it posted? spoilers?

cloud ibex
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This one hasn’t been updated yet but it does have pre ascension Silva

frail hearth
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I found Lea channel's art, I was pretty close :D

jaunty wraith
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Question: if two gods were to have a child? Would that child be a god?

frail hearth
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the greek's figured this out ages ago

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demigods, baby.

cloud ibex
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Godhood isn’t genetic

frail hearth
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or like... name a zuse offspring >_>;

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bro's main character trait was not being the god of thunder but his inability to keep his dick out of holes

cloud ibex
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If two gods had a kid they would just be some person

jaunty wraith
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1: demi god is a god and a mortal i believe

2: Greek gods and calamity gods operate on completely sepreate rules

frail hearth
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i say mostly in jest. sorry >u<

frail hearth
cloud ibex
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It’s like that meme of being the child of a mermaid and a centaur and getting the human half of both so you’re just some dude

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I did wonder for a little bit if Yharim was the child of gods, which would be why he specifically was chosen to become god king

frail hearth
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"my parents are the gods of life and time, but I own a moderatly successful bakery in the middle of town. 4.3 stars! :D"

cloud ibex
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But it seems like he was a slave before the crusade so that seems unlikely

jaunty wraith
frail hearth
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"the god of baking" would be crazy branding >u<

jaunty wraith
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Even not a god, the child could still have very high status

frail hearth
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son of the god of patience and time who has grey hair at 22 because his job requires him to be exceptional at large amounts of paperwork.

jaunty wraith
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He ain't a god but hes working like one

frail hearth
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has not slept in 3 days and is running on miricals and more caffine than is reccomended

jaunty wraith
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Thats the fault of the god of capitalism

frail hearth
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fuckin god of capitalisim >:U

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who's soul did he eat, the auric dragon of hording gold?

jaunty wraith
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Okay thats not an offical thing, its a head cannon character from someone who consumed the auric dragon of greed

frail hearth
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it's an amazing headcanon >u<

jaunty wraith
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I've got a good one

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The one who consumed the dragon of lust is fabsol

frail hearth
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F lol

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loosly related to silva talk, I know she's brealor's diety but was statis a follower of anyone?

jaunty wraith
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I believe he has connections to the slime god?

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I could be very wrong

cloud ibex
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slime god yes

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i think the onyx kinsmen worshipped signus too but might be conflating old and new lore on that one

frail hearth
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figures, idk why but i feel like across a lot of terraria slimes have like some loose asscoiation with ninjas cus of the vanity drops from the slime bosses in vanilla >u>

jaunty wraith
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Signus isn't a god though is he?

cloud ibex
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i'd wager a guess statis exists because of the weird oneoff connection between slimes and ninjas

cloud ibex
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just a Thing™ from the distortion

frail hearth
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spooky boi

jaunty wraith
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There's really not much on what he is

frail hearth
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menacingly floating at you with his lil lamp

cloud ibex
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apparently he has the potential to become a similar entity to noxus

frail hearth
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god of spirit halloween

cloud ibex
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but that doesn't tell us much when we don't know what the hell noxus' deal is

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we do know what signus' deal is though

jaunty wraith
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As of now hes only summon able in the underworld but that could be a remnant of old lore yet to be change

jaunty wraith
cloud ibex
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he's a faustian rat bastard who can't interact with the outside world and needs a physical vessel

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which is part of what statis' deal to escape the Distortion was

jaunty wraith
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Somthing im wondering

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Is there gonna be some kind of epiloge of what's gonna happen after the terrarian defeats yharim or is it fully up to the players imagination

frail hearth
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well, the terrarian's role in all this is left up to the player for that good good emersion

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there's no way your quest dosen't end in killing yahrim given how much buildup and foreshadowing there is to it in the mod, maybe WotG would be a good supliment to that no idea if Yahrim could take on ||the boss i'm assuming to be xerox|| but hey it'd be an ending?

limpid saddle
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those of course being the two superbosses of the mod only available post-Yharim

frail hearth
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kinda dig where wrath of the gods goes with his fight. really adore his ||Madoka-ish multimedia vibe||

jaunty wraith
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I think that fargos mutant boss would be post yharim too

frail hearth
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of course

limpid saddle
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add-ons are not canon & any representation of calamity characters are interpretations based on outdated lore & in most cases eintierly seperate characters

frail hearth
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I mean yea but it's good fun to imagine ^u^

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Solyn's great. She's so cool ;u;

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i love my star gazing book club buddy

limpid saddle
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glad you found fun in it

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But Calamity's versions of Noxus & Xeroc are whole different beasts

jaunty wraith
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WOTG doesn't even have noxus anymore

limpid saddle
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& we know basically nothing about them because all the lore has been locked up in the Calamity Team patented Writer Vault™

frail hearth
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i'm wholly aware. i'm just a huge dork who likes tabletop roleplaying so I'll take any source i can get my hands on, homebrewed or no >u>;

jaunty wraith
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All we know of xeroc is what yharim tells us...

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So not reliable

limpid saddle
jaunty wraith
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And i dont think anyone in lore outside of the distortion is aware of noxus existence

cloud ibex
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rather, yharim has a vibe check on noxus

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and the results were Bad

jaunty wraith
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He realized that DoG could of been working for somthing far greater

limpid saddle
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He doesn't know what it is, or what it wants, but he's pieced together there's someone behind the scenes, with the power to 'destroy everything'

jaunty wraith
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But didn't have anything beyond that

limpid saddle
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Also he's really REALLY scared of Noxus

jaunty wraith
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I mean the DoG was already formidable

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So imagine the thing that he answers too

limpid saddle
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Not really why he's scared of Noxus

frail hearth
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i'd imagine the exist'nt power's what spooks yahrim. not nessesarally the raw power of whatever's under him

jaunty wraith
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He was also terrified of the exo mechs

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Not as much but still

cloud ibex
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he was?

frail hearth
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that's cus dreadon's a freak who has no concept of boundaries

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he's a weird guy with infinent resources who's only goal is to make the thing he's currently fixated on better and more reliable.

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you can imagine why this would concern yahrim given his current fixation's a trio of murderbot superweapons ;0;

jaunty wraith
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"What a terrifying marvel of engineering. Draedon's specialty always lay in the machines of war, but these are immaculate.
His bold claim that no God can match his work is, however… incorrect. He is not privy to the Traitor almighty.
Regardless, from steel and wit alone, he has forged engines of destruction that rival Calamitas.
It brings me little comfort to remark that even she, at least has a heart to speak of.
Draedon is an amoral monster beyond compare. He is entirely devoid of humanity and compassion.
With technology this incomprehensibly advanced, he stands at the precipice of apotheosis.
He can fabricate such dreadful, synthetic nightmares at will. His resources must be nigh unlimited.
Were he to lose his temper: if he even has one, all of life's hopes would be smothered in an instant, silenced by a torrent of silicon.
Though, perhaps you may leverage his unimaginable craft to your advantage, and seek insight from him."

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The lore entry for the exo mechs (and draedon)

limpid saddle
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Yeah that's not really the same thing as his fear of Noxus

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With the Exo Mechs it's the 'implication' of their existence, what it could lead to

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With Noxus, it's the 'concept' of it's existence

frail hearth
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...just realized he'd prolly be scared of late-game John Egbert of homestuck fame. amongst his conditional immortality and godlike power is the ability to literally retcon the timeline. >_>;

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butterfly thing but on steroids

wanton pendant
frail hearth
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orly? :0

wanton pendant
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She's the Nature Elemental.

frail hearth
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was it another Yahrim skill issue or is there something else?

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aaah right

wanton pendant
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Elementals are in practice unkillable.

wanton pendant
frail hearth
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Quick question

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do any vanilla beastiary entries get changed in calamity? I'm specifically thinking of the pillars and their mobs, knowing that moonlord is an important figure in the lore of the mod

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also bluntly i'm kinda curious as to what their deal is in the first place >u>;

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the pillars i mean

wanton pendant
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They will in SSO.

frail hearth
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well that's prolly a ways off yet, so like is there anyhthing we do know about the pillars right now?

wanton pendant
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And I think at least the Solar Pillar is notable as it emulates Primordial Light, somehow.

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Assuming the others claiming as such aren't passing off their guesses as canon.

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Oh, and I think the Pillars are meant to be Moon Lord's invading force.

frail hearth
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ah :0

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the vanilla wiki talks about the pillars almost as if they're what's keeping the moonlord sealed, so like my brain was going in the directing of they're like the contorted remains of auric dragons who sacraficed themselves to drive the moonlord away

wanton pendant
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Yeah but that's a different continuity.

frail hearth
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i knoowwwwww ;0;

wanton pendant
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Lunatic Cultist has the opposite goal in Calamity.

frail hearth
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it's hard to tell where they overlap tho. i imagine bunnies function largely the same in both canons >_>;

wanton pendant
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Bunnies are the limited food Calamitas has to live off of.

frail hearth
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i'm sure there's a better, more nuanced example but it's late and i can't think of one ;0;

cloud ibex
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kinda just something you have to Know at the moment unfortunately

wanton pendant
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And once you get past the just knowing stuff you gotta make calculations, which is where Birthday Theory comes in.

frail hearth
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what in tarnation is birthday theory @~@;

wanton pendant
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The theory that Calamitas' birthday is somewhere around the third quarter of the year by my calculations.

frail hearth
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i didn't know her bday was such a hotly debated lore topic >u<

wanton pendant
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Not as grand as Moon's Haunted Theory, but I think it's key to figuring out the timeline.

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The other issue with figuring out the timeline is everyone is really vague.

pliant ruin
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moon is evil ✅

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"draedon why don't you like, go study the moon, is it because fovos is in there"
"no the moons evil"
"what does that mean"
"moons evil. cant go there."

tropic oak
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haunted...

wanton pendant
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Ok, Moon's Haunted Theory is a legitimate theory that nobody ever talks about, it's a conspiracy I tell you, that damn moon is EVIL!

tropic oak
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Moon (lord) is evil!

pliant ruin
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atleast 1/3 of media with fantasy or scifi elements must have it so the moon is fucked up in some way

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its just the way things work

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I wonder if theres like

tropic oak
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the moon will majora's mask us eventually

pliant ruin
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any actual life on the moon

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besides. the squid.

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i mean life on other planets clearly exists

tropic oak
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why didnt the moonlord just hurl the moon at Terraria? Is he stupid?

pliant ruin
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martians for one. they come from. you know

tropic oak
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what the fuck are you On about Bro

pliant ruin
#

fromn

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from mars

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they come from mars .

tropic oak
#

get crunk gangalang what are u doin here

sinful adder
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The calamity moon has to be haunted somehow

pliant ruin
#

moons evil

sinful adder
#

It makes the blood moon! And the solar eclipse!

pliant ruin
#

yep

#

moons evil

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Draedon research logs on the moon

its evil

tropic oak
#

fuck youve reminded me ive got to vcmm solar eclipse theme

wanton pendant
#

That's the theory, the moon is why the world sucks.

tropic oak
#

fuckkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk

sinful adder
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The moon should be like deltarune darkness that makes ideas come to life

pliant ruin
#

but yeah no the moon is fucked up in some capacity

#

like i think thats

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undeniable

wanton pendant
#

Hence, Moon's Haunted Theory.

sinful adder
#

It blocks out the sun and makes more darkness, and it raises the dead during a blood moon

tropic oak
#

cheese do ulike homestuck.

pliant ruin
#

the fact the dragons specificaly chose to seal fovos in the moon is interesting too because to be fair it could just be a situation where they wanted to get mf away from earth but i wouldnt be surprised if there was more to it than just that

pliant ruin
sinful adder
#

(but actually really the solar eclipse should be like a dark world. And that's why it makes fantasy monsters real)

wanton pendant
#

Because the Moon's Haunted and they wanted to make him scared.

tropic oak
frail hearth
#

i like homestuck :c

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im sorry

wanton pendant
#

Kill.

pliant ruin
#

all i know about homstuck is that toby fox made a song for it

tropic oak
#

primordial dark will be real in

pliant ruin
#

he made a da megalovania

tropic oak
#

he made two, actually,

frail hearth
#

toby made a lot of songs for it actually! :D

pliant ruin
#

da homestuck megalovania

tropic oak
#

several, several more than two,

#

i lied

frail hearth
#

highly reccomend Moonsetter. it's one of my favorites of his

wanton pendant
#

Isn't Toby Fox the main character?

#

And he's in Pokémon.

frail hearth
#

in the animated pilot coming up, yes. he's vocing john

pliant ruin
tropic oak
#

dude i dont even know anything about homestuck but. i listened to a random track called in the ost by pure chance and got sunsetter so now im covering it

#

its groovy

wanton pendant
frail hearth
#

Egbert.

tropic oak
wanton pendant
#

What kind of a name is Egbert!?

frail hearth
#

the kind of name you give this goober

wanton pendant
#

Ha.

frail hearth
#

epic embed fail ;-;

pliant ruin
#

the embed fails curse us all

tropic oak
#

im assuming youve heard sunsetter before kiwi

frail hearth
#

obvi

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it's a jammer >u<

split mortar
#

Men

pliant ruin
#

hi men gun

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i mean melon gun

#

hi melon gun

tropic oak
#

i haven't a clue about homestuck but its groovy so im covering it anyway

#

hi melon gun

wanton pendant
frail hearth
#

I'm sure there's a list somewhere online of what songs toby contributed to homestuck... he's certainly not the only one with iconic tracs but he's one of a handful of really notable artists who worked on the project :0

tropic oak
split mortar
#

The fucks the gay theory

pliant ruin
#

ok guys wait

#

lore

tropic oak
#

lore

pliant ruin
#

thats right. LORE. ype

sinful adder
#

Primordial dark should be real. Even if xeroc has control over it. And it should be deltarune darkness. That can also be why xeroc can make clones of things. Darkness.

frail hearth
#

John Egbert is a centric calamity lore figure wym

pliant ruin
#

I think saying "should be" is a bit odd

frail hearth
#

He's got the auric soul of wind or something

sinful adder
#

It would be really cool

wanton pendant
pliant ruin
#

I think it should be whatever visions the developers have for it

frail hearth
#

funny god of breath joke

pliant ruin
#

It's cool to have these ideas though

sinful adder
#

And so that makes it should

tropic oak
#

Primordial Dark *could be

pliant ruin
#

Just, kind of a odd wording lol

frail hearth
pliant ruin
#

I don't think it should be because

frail hearth
#

good work! :D

pliant ruin
#

we don't know what the devs plan to do and the stuff they're writing :p

tropic oak
#

primordial dark would be funny as fuck. bro.

#

god.

sinful adder
#

Oh hey sunsetter is pretty good

pliant ruin
#

primordial soup! the ediacaran explosion

wanton pendant
#

It should be WHATEVER I think it should be since I'M objectively correct about EVERYTHING!!!

sinful adder
#

What do you think about Penumbra Phantasm in deltarune

split mortar
#

Primordial dark is vortex fragments

cloud ibex
#

i should have hamburger

tropic oak
wanton pendant
#

Primordial Twilight.

tropic oak
#

do you know why i want to strangle toby fox

sinful adder
#

Why

split mortar
wanton pendant
#

Shut.

pliant ruin
#

Are darksun frags being kept

frail hearth
#

i prefere homestuck'srendition of megolovania, cus of the haunting guitar riff it starts with >U<

pliant ruin
#

I forgot if they are

split mortar
#

Think so

tropic oak
#

because the stupid Fucking Dog put Pneumbra Phantasm in Hopes and Dreams my Favorite Fucking Undertale Song.

frail hearth
#

tho like overall i think UT's versions a little better ;u;

tropic oak
#

That's Why. I Want to Strangle Toby Fox.

cloud ibex
#

lore discussion

sinful adder
#

The interview thing is obviously fake or wrong because PP is already in deltarune. It's The Holy, it's in the background of dump, it's heavily modified into From Now On and all the chapter 4 battle themes

pliant ruin
#

I guess darksun frags being real still makes sense compared to something like endothermic or nightmare fuel

frail hearth
#

why is this your toby crime and not him using the literal actual the baby is you riff in a mcfucking pokemon game 0u0

wanton pendant
#

Toby Fox's strangulation is integral to the lore.

pliant ruin
#

Because solar eclipses are a thing that actually happen in-universe

tropic oak
#

i dont care about pokemon, unfortunately

#

anyway

#

SOLAR ECLIPSE !!!!!!!!!!

pliant ruin
#

I suppose i just kinda associate darksun frags with the others for some reason even if its entirely separate

cloud ibex
tropic oak
#

STOP REMINDING ME !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

frail hearth
#

they speak the truth tho. Toby's the auric soul of like

pliant ruin
#

go john vcmm. doyour vcmm

frail hearth
#

dogs

tropic oak
#

cheese do u want to hear what i had for solar eclipse theme bro.

split mortar
tropic oak
#

its so bad bro.

wanton pendant
frail hearth
#

fuck it sure auric dragon of good boys

#

he is real i say so

tropic oak
pliant ruin
frail hearth
#

my dad is john calamity who writes all of teh lorez

wanton pendant
sinful adder
tropic oak
#

dude it was just gonna be a bunch of fucking pop culture references

#

but

#

but

#

rebecca. gave me an IDEA.

pliant ruin
#

Shallow way of seeing things

wanton pendant
#

How concerned should we be?

pliant ruin
#

it has to be this specific vision

#

It should be this way

#

Idk i just think you shouldn't word things this way it's a bit odd

wanton pendant
#

It has to be this way.

split mortar
#

How resistant to rocks being thrown at her is scal

frail hearth
tropic oak
#

some say the greatest Solar Eclipse Theme Idea ever made. Of course, by us. Nobody could make a better Solar Eclipse Theme Idea because we're the best.

wanton pendant
split mortar
pliant ruin
#

You could probably throw rocks at scal while she wasn't using her shield

#

She'd be like

sinful adder
pliant ruin
#

Dude what the fuck

wanton pendant
#

She's learned to defend herself from rocks.

wanton pendant
#

Experience.

pliant ruin
#

It's just subjective at the end of the day

pliant ruin
wanton pendant
#

I think they should tell us Azafure's trade policy.

pliant ruin
#

she would set you on fire for throwing rocks at her

#

she would definitely be mad though

#

like

#

Dude what the fuck why

wanton pendant
#

Maybe if you threw a really big rock.

tropic oak
#

is this you describing how'd you feel cheese.

#

Jane Scal .

wanton pendant
#

If you threw a rock at me, I may not notice.

#

Thus, I am not Calamitas.

frail hearth
#

Calamitas and the brimstone primordial surely devestated the azafure stock market 😔

pliant ruin
#

look it wasn't i was actually just viewing it from the lens of calamitas the Character but i guess it fits me too Whatever Man . throw tomatoes at me and say Go Calamity Girl Go

split mortar
frail hearth
#

i did sorry ;0;

tropic oak
#

If you threw a rock at me, I would notice. Thus, I am Calamitas.

pliant ruin
#

calamitas theorem

wanton pendant
pliant ruin
#

rock noticed? ✅ you are calamitas

#

the calamitas is you terrarian etc

tropic oak
#

LOL

mighty zenith
#

if you threw calamitas at me, I would not notice. Thus, I am rock

tropic oak
#

... true

pliant ruin
#

i think itd be hard to not notice if calamitas was thrown at you

#

maybe were all rocks

mighty zenith
#

rocks dont notice things

wanton pendant
#

She's only like 5"4' I might not notice.

cloud ibex
tropic oak
#

if you were 8'0 (yharim) you could kick her like a football

pliant ruin
wanton pendant
#

Is he not 9' any more?

pliant ruin
#

this universe is the result of me being born slightly taller and thus calamity dosent happen

#

yep

split mortar
#

If you were yharim you could kick a lot like a football

cloud ibex
#

i mean yeah if you were yharim you could kick most people like a football

split mortar
wanton pendant
#

Calamitas is height of particularly tall ten year old. Yharim is height of particularly short Dutch man.

wanton pendant
pliant ruin
#

Yharim is like

#

the (realistically) biggest mfer

#

Like yeah im sure

#

theres like

#

bigger dudes somewhere in the world

#

but hes like

#

as big as it gets for just. biologically normal guy

cloud ibex
#

yharim is Tall but he's also Wide

split mortar
wanton pendant
#

Based on Team Yharim's ages, Calamitas is some baby they hired.

cloud ibex
#

he's not a bodybuilder he's built like a brick wall

pliant ruin
wanton pendant
split mortar
#

Still not 9

pliant ruin
#

And then theres

#

Draedon .

wanton pendant
#

Draedon is like me. Tall.

pliant ruin
#

I'm pretty sure hes literally as tall as a triceratops

cloud ibex
#

draedon is as tall as he wants to be

pliant ruin
#

if not taller

cloud ibex
#

and apparently he wants to be as tall as mithrix

split mortar
#

Draedon being like 14 foot or something

wanton pendant
#

Height readings, positive.

frail hearth
#

what's he look like under the helmate? :0

pliant ruin
#

We dunno

#

Probably never will

cloud ibex
#

nobody nose

wanton pendant
#

Yharim or Draedon?

#

Since Draedon isn't wearing one.

frail hearth
#

yahrim

pliant ruin
#

Yharim i assume given Draedonious dosen't really haver a helmet yeah

wanton pendant
#

Somewhere between Ganondorf and Darth Vader.

cloud ibex
#

i tend to imagine he still has scarrings from the lava incident but they're mostly faded by now

pliant ruin
#

Yeah same

cloud ibex
#

and also he has no eyes

pliant ruin
#

I don't think he's like

frail hearth
#

dang it'd be cool to draw like one of those rad cracked helmate moments like in toku :0

pliant ruin
#

Mutilated

pliant ruin
#

I've seen people have that interpretation and while i see where it's coming from

#

I also think that it dosen't make that much sense

frail hearth
#

short for tokusatsu. y'know, sentai, power rangers, ultraman, kamen rider, etc

pliant ruin
#

There's alot of ways he could've healed his wounds by now

cloud ibex
#

this also isn't based on anything in actual canon but i like to imagine that his attunement to Yharon gives him some very slight draconic elements

wanton pendant
#

Four kinds of Yharim: Ganondorf, White Ganondorf, Darth Vader, Skinny Guy.

pliant ruin
#

Magic, potions, mf. surgery
Not to mention the attunement with Yharon g iving him like the worlds best immune system and all

cloud ibex
#

slightly scaly skin, sharper nails etc.

pliant ruin
#

We all agree twink yharim is the worst one though right

#

Like we're all in agreement

cloud ibex
#

yes

wanton pendant
#

Yeah.

frail hearth
wanton pendant
#

What.

cloud ibex
#

kinda?

pliant ruin
#

There is only ONE excusable version of twink yharim to me and it's Yharim when he was significantly younger

#

And even then

#

It's not like. femboy

#

its griffith.

#

its griffith berserk.

wanton pendant
#

Who?

frail hearth
#

Yahrim's twunk-ish at the least.

pliant ruin
#

the main villain guy from berserk

frail hearth
#

pre-attunement he was prolly a twig what with being a slave and all ;0;

pliant ruin
#

i never read berserk but

wanton pendant
pliant ruin
#

I do definitely see Yharim looking something like this but only when he was young

#

100% not anymore

#

Like. several years ago. Probably before the crusade began and around the very start of it

wanton pendant
#

Why is he 'mewing'?

frail hearth
#

griffith's just like that dw about it

tropic oak
#

yharim mogged…holy shit…..

pliant ruin
#

There's this guy from fire force which i also see as my vision of Yharim when hes. old

#

Aka Now

wanton pendant
#

No clue who that is.

#

Wait, Snake!?

pliant ruin
#

i dont either i just know its some guy from fire force

#

He kinda does look like snake true

mighty zenith
#

i like my yharims looking like doom 2016 revenants

frail hearth
#

yahrim lowkey built like a male WOW character

cloud ibex
frail hearth
#

GDI ;-;

#

I FORGOOOOTTT

pliant ruin
#

I don't really like the mutilated/mummy yharim interpretation bc again to me it just dosen't really make much sense

#

It's not as like

#

egregious as twink yharim

wanton pendant
#

He cosplayed Ganondorf once and couldn't get the dye out.

pliant ruin
#

like its not as blatantly jsut Wrong

#

but i still dont really vibe with it

mighty zenith
#

i think i like it more on a symbolic level

wanton pendant
#

I've seen half Ganondorf half Crispy Fried before.

pliant ruin
#

We know his armor isn't like, life support, he can get out of it if he wants to
Not to mention there's a ton of ways he can actually heal himself and such

frail hearth
#

Yahrim: the world's most tragic twink death 😔

cloud ibex
#

in a world where magic and Draedon exists i highly doubt he is actually still a fucked up zombie darth vader lookin mf

mighty zenith
#

yharim's fall into lava and meeting yharon is what led him down this path

cloud ibex
#

however: it would be cool

mighty zenith
#

his "new" face is the mask

#

because he's now just a warlord

frail hearth
#

no way yahrim dosen't have like some sorta conditional immortality thing going on, being attuned with the dragon of rebirth and all

pliant ruin
#

To me mutilated zombie looking yharim also dosent ift his character as well because it makes him, physically, look like a monster, which personally dosent fit yharim to me

mighty zenith
#

a name to be feared

wanton pendant
#

I do sometimes think about there may being a more specific reason Calamitas is scared of Yharim, but then I also remember he's like twice her height.

cloud ibex
#

the dude is 140 years old

wanton pendant
#

He'll be dead within the decade.

tropic oak
#

hey man. im gonna go grab some water. can you make sure you keep your eyes on my thousands of auric dragons? i dont want them to die.

cloud ibex
#

yeah he's close to death right now but he has lived twice as long as the average irl person

mighty zenith
#

he literally became his armor rather than the compassionate human he most likely was before (not wanting to kill yharon and willing to die for it)

frail hearth
pliant ruin
#

he's not immortal but he can live really damn long

frail hearth
#

old age no problem

mighty zenith
#

just my interpretation tho

wanton pendant
#

That's longevity, not immortality.

cloud ibex
#

one little design thing i've been thinking of is

pliant ruin
#

His immune system really good

tropic oak
#

hey man where’d all my auric dragons go

pliant ruin
#

Dudes full of vitality

pliant ruin
wanton pendant
pliant ruin
#

unrelated to your dragons disappearing btw

#

i was just hungry

#

didnt do anything to them

#

do you want this suspiciously auric soul shaped hotdog btw

frail hearth
#

had my airpods in what did you want us to do?

pliant ruin
#

i was hungry so i made some

cloud ibex
#

i like to imagine that before he got his armor upgraded his helmet had a little banner thing hanging in front of his face

tropic oak
wanton pendant
#

A carrot on a stick as motivation.

cloud ibex
#

cause he doesn't want to be remembered for what he looks like, he wants to be remembered for what he did

frail hearth
#

well too bad >:U

#

i'm gonna remember him for his gross old man face outta SPITE

pliant ruin
wanton pendant
frail hearth
#

TYRANT MORE LIKE LAME-RANT

tropic oak
#

id win against yharim because i have the auric soul of kicking ass, fortunately.

cloud ibex
#

yeah it is kinda reverse minos prime coded you right

frail hearth
tropic oak
#

dude that should be a dragon

#

the dragon of kicking ass

wanton pendant
#

So you're the God of Being Kicked?

cloud ibex
#

the one the God of War killed

pliant ruin
#

dragon of wrath was probably an asshole

tropic oak
#

true

wanton pendant
frail hearth
#

so who's the god of badassesry? Chuck Noris or Clint Eastwood?

tropic oak
#

i did not know that was a dragon

cloud ibex
#

i did not either

pliant ruin
#

like okay can we like

cloud ibex
#

i'm just making shit up

frail hearth
tropic oak
#

oh.

#

liar.

#

i will never trust you again

pliant ruin
#

safely assume that dragon of wrath was probably not a good guy right

#

Like so far we only know of dragon of flame

#

but

#

come on man

frail hearth
#

prolly not no

cloud ibex
#

TO BEE FAIR it could be like

#

righteous wrath

stoic gulch
pliant ruin
#

Dragon of wrath isn't an fully canonizd dragon yet but we know other sin dragons exist so

frail hearth
#

bro sounds like he was on some old testimate shit.

wanton pendant
#

Here you go.

stoic gulch
#

Buzz buzz

pliant ruin
#

Fair to assume it does

cloud ibex
#

in a similar sense to Agnus being the god of specifically self sacrifice

pliant ruin
frail hearth
#

"praise be the lord"
"i don't beleive you. kill your brother"

cloud ibex
#

but yeah no if there was a dragon of wrath they were probably a bastard

wanton pendant
#

Dragon of Wrath just had anger issues.

pliant ruin
#

also did any of you guys hear my

#

headcanon a while back

#

for god of war.

cloud ibex
#

i did not

wanton pendant
#

Gay?

cloud ibex
#

elaborate

pliant ruin
#

in my head his characterization is quite literally just

sundowner

#

sundowner metal gear rising

wanton pendant
#

I remember, human.

cloud ibex
#

oh nevermind i did see that i forgot

#

i can see the vision

stoic gulch
pliant ruin
#

Don't fuck with me, Yharim!

cosmic minnow
frail hearth
#

Yahrim's worst warcrime was never having sloppy toxic makeouts with his ex husband permafrost

wanton pendant
#

'I got 70 alternative accounts!'

frail hearth
#

that's why they divorced

tropic oak
#

dude do you think sundowner stands a chance against yharim

#

thatd be a funny ass fight

cloud ibex
#

no

wanton pendant
frail hearth
#

yes

pliant ruin
#

it'd be really funny

wanton pendant
#

Calamitas when she has to fight the God of Belts.

frail hearth
#

divorce leads children to horrible places u_u

pliant ruin
#

I like to think that god of dogma and god of war

#

in a ironic twist

#

are who shaped yharim into who he is today

wanton pendant
#

Probably.

cosmic minnow
#

Lmao

pliant ruin
#

Despite them being his two first like big enemies

cloud ibex
#

i could imagine it

wanton pendant
cosmic minnow
#

Ik

frail hearth
#

calamity god of war, coincidentally also named kratos

tropic oak
#

you know, by action, yharim is this worlds kratos

cloud ibex
#

actually has it been said that the god of dogma was part of the group who sentenced yharim to death

pliant ruin
#

God of dogma is manipulative, cunning, wise. Controls others for their goals.
God of War is ruthless, strategic, brutal. A master warrior and warmonger.

#

Yharim is both of those things

cloud ibex
#

i feel like it has

wanton pendant
#

Wasn't he the leader of that group?

cloud ibex
#

i wouldn't be surprised if dogma and war were part of the same group

wanton pendant
#

Where's the furry divorce image when you need it?

cloud ibex
#

like

frail hearth
#

the god of war and dogma were also totally mackin on each other btw

#

toxic yaoi for everyone

mighty zenith
#

funny how you can blame hive mind for the 130 years of war the world went through

wanton pendant
pliant ruin
# pliant ruin Yharim is both of those things

So i like to think that Yharim likely had long ongoing conflicts with these two, with them being the first two major gods he took down, as part of his missions that'd lead to the evil biomes
And with them being major roadblocks, to defeat them he had to learn how they think and learn how to be better than them at their own game

cloud ibex
#

the GoD was the one who dealt with internal matters and the GoW was the one who focused on expanding and conquering

#

that kinda dynamic

tropic oak
pliant ruin
#

the true main villain

#

purple boc

wanton pendant
#

Hive Mind... What do bees live in?

tropic oak
#

fuck dogma. wouldnt be fighting these stupid ass god-beings if it weren’t for Dogma’s stupid ass doin’ stupid shit

frail hearth
wanton pendant
#

No, hives!

#

It's all connected!

pliant ruin
#

Ngl i feel like

pliant ruin
#

yharim vs god of war specifically

#

would've been a cool ass fight

frail hearth
#

wym they talk to each other via sick moves and bustin it down communicative style

pliant ruin
#

And i do think it wouldve been

#

basically on equal terms

mighty zenith
#

isaac 🤝 calamity

frail hearth
#

queen bee more like dancing queen

wanton pendant
#

Like Invincible Vs Conquest?

mighty zenith
#

everything is dogma's fault

cloud ibex
#

kratos vs kaido

frail hearth
#

thanks odogma

cloud ibex
#

or something like that idk

pliant ruin
#

warmonger vs warmonger

god of war was better than yharim, but throughout the fight, yharim manages to beat him at his own game

tropic oak
#

everything is dogma’s fault bro fuck this guy……..

cloud ibex
#

you know it's kinda funny how we already had DoG but now we also have a GoD

tropic oak
#

yum

pliant ruin
#

bitch ass dogma. if it wasnt for him agnus wouldnt have died

#

agnus died for your sins dickhead

wanton pendant
#

The idea that the BoC reskin boss is like, worse than Yharim is hilarious.

frail hearth
#

which one's BoC agan

wanton pendant
#

Brain of Cthulhu.

tropic oak
frail hearth
#

aight gotcha

mighty zenith
wanton pendant
#

And had he succeeded, a worse fate would befall the world.

mighty zenith
#

but is the main driving force of yharim being yharim

tropic oak
#

need to get a friend to start drawing Agnus over varying Jesus artworks

frail hearth
#

agnus holding a velociraptor

#

or your my little pony of choice

wanton pendant
#

I recall Devs saying that had they been allowed to try again the outcome would very much be worse than Yharim.

mighty zenith
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agnus balling on yharim

pliant ruin
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that one image of my child will jesus vs my child will devil but its like

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agnus and signus or something

wanton pendant
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'My child will send teenagers to war!'

pliant ruin
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unironically though agnus is like probably the closest we have to jesus in calamity mod like

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genuinely

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incredibly benevolent and kind god who deeply loved all of his followers and who sacrificed himself for them repeatedly

wanton pendant
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The canon Jesus in question:

mighty zenith
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jesus if he became a fucked up zombie and started killing everything

tropic oak
wanton pendant
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That's the Bible 3 & Knuckles.

split mortar
random mulch
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waaaaiit

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bread & wine are claimed to be jesus' body and blood or whatever

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agnus feeds his followers his flesh & blood

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agnus might be jesus calamity

split mortar
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Yharim solos jesus 💔

split mortar
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Could draedon make something that can let others do a mind transfer?

crimson junco
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"This device will either transfer your mind or turn you into a pool of blood"

fair pelican
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We can get Yharon’s egg tho, so next time he reincarnates he’ll bond with us not Yharim
Also Yharim already sees the reason that’s why he went into self isolation mode, he realized he messed up the world

cloud ibex
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i don't think he will

wanton pendant
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Why would be bond with us?

cloud ibex
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if he remembers the death of the dragons he'll remember us as the Guy That Killed Him Last Time

wanton pendant
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We kill him and his BFF.

fair pelican
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I thought there was a sort of memory wipe?

cloud ibex
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that too

wanton pendant
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Not at all.

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He remembers your genocides.

cloud ibex
pliant ruin
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Yharon is a fully sapient dude he's not like a animal

fallen kindle
pliant ruin
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he, quite literally
Remembers Your Genocides

fair pelican
# wanton pendant We kill him and his BFF.

We kill the last bits of divinity that were on the world, the devourer and the guy that rules over the devourer (maybe future update but you get what I mean)
that should count for something

Also Yharim kinda wants to die

pliant ruin
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No

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He dosen't

wanton pendant
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We kill him and his BFF.

pliant ruin
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You're misinterpreting him :p

wanton pendant
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Why would he be friends with us?

pliant ruin
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He's willing to die for his cause
He's not suicidal

cloud ibex
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yharim wants to be remembered as a martyr

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he's fine with dying but he doesn't want to

pliant ruin
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He dosen't want to die, but if he needs to die to let his crusade live on, hes willing to do it

fair pelican
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He even says “I’ll be waiting for you”

pliant ruin
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No his cause is like

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very much not over

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He actively incentivizes you to kill gods

cloud ibex
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also the whole reason yharon fights you to begin with is to stop you from killing Yharim

wanton pendant
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It ain't over until every single one of those filthy, murderous deities is in the ground.

pliant ruin
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Yharim is 100% still dedicated to the crusade, his encroaching mortality is just getting to him

fair pelican
pliant ruin
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No there's

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Xeroc

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Also Silva

wanton pendant
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There's like, at least a few dozen in hiding by my estimate.

pliant ruin
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And that's not accounting for the possibility of other gods who just. aren't here

cloud ibex
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there's xeroc and however many others managed to slip through the cracks

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that's what yharim wants you to clean up

pliant ruin
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Yharim killed most of them

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But not all of them

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Yharim sees that he's failing at his mission, sees the fact his time is coming up (He's incredibly old. Mortality's getting to him)

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He notices you're. comically powerful

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Probably the most powerful person he's seen in a long while

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And he thinks that, in order for him to accomplish his goal, he can get you to do it

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Because he knows he won't be able to

fair pelican
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Xeroc is weird, his ascension was probably different
Silva is already dead, she’s just a body clinging to a half-life state on the depths of the sea

wanton pendant
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Surpassing even the witch and the man who almost killed him...

pliant ruin
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Silva isn't "dead"

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Well

pliant ruin
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She is but

cloud ibex
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no silva's alive

pliant ruin
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She's immortal

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She's gonna come back

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She's Physically dead but she's still alive

cloud ibex
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but she is as close to dead as she could be yes

pliant ruin
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She quite literally Cannot Die

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And "Xeroc is weird" is like