except scal
#lore-discussion
long bloom
split mortar
Yeah we do break the mechs
long bloom
kaboom
ivory sundial
shouldnt he be mad?
split mortar
No
random mulch
he doesn't really mind the exo mechs being destroyed
cloud ibex
nah
split mortar
They served their function
ivory sundial
Buddy prob got something better cooking up 🥀
cloud ibex
he's mostly just like "huh. that's interesting"
random mulch
the fight was an attempt to study you, and the exo mechs were merely an instrument
split mortar
They scienced
long bloom
true
cloud ibex
the exos weren't even designed to fight you, they were designed to handle Yharim the last time he and Draedon met
ivory sundial
oh
random mulch
he kinda just made them because he wanted to
cloud ibex
but he tosses them at you cause he thinks "yeah that'll work"
long bloom
draedon's literal only motivation for anything is to advance science
that's the singular thing he cares about
long bloom
is scal evil
the latter
random mulch
she's done some pretty bad things but she's not inherently evil
cloud ibex
very regretful of the things she's done and is trying to do better
split mortar
She is trying to stop what she believes could be yharim 2.0
split mortar
She is trying to stop what she believes could be yharim 2.0
So at the end she realises we wont do fifty bajillion war crimes
And stops
ivory sundial
oh
long bloom
"the witch will not allow it to happen once again"
split mortar
okay so yharim is the big bad guy
He genocided people so yeah
random mulch
big evil yellow man
ivory sundial
wasnt yharim a goodboy when he met yjharon
long bloom
possibly
split mortar
Racist genocidal guy so far up his ass he believes he is a good person
split mortar
wasnt yharim a goodboy when he met yjharon
He decided to do genocide back then so
Debatable
random mulch
you probably don't 180 immediately from good guy to genocidal egomaniac
ivory sundial
does DOG know about yharim?
random mulch
he was enslaved by a cult of gods in his youth
where did that even come from
long bloom
dev statements and yharon lore item
split mortar
does DOG know about yharim?
Dog “works” for yharim
ivory sundial
oh
cloud ibex
he himself believes that he's "fallen off" in the later years of the crusade but his goal was, from the start, killing all gods in existence regardless of if they're good or bad
random mulch
dev statements and yharon lore item
link to statement?
cloud ibex
_ _
long bloom
buh @random mulch
cloud ibex
his ass is NOT surviving
ivory sundial
add sparing to the game
cloud ibex
even if you tried to spare him he'd probably kill himself
long bloom
add sparing to the game
they might for other bosses
split mortar
add sparing to the game
He would prob just kill himself if you did that
Or continue fighting you
long bloom
but not yharim
cloud ibex
he wants to die as a martyr
ivory sundial
He would prob just kill himself if you did that
Or continue fighting you
why would he kill himself?
long bloom
depressed
cloud ibex
he hopes he can, through his own death, catalyze you to pick up where he left off
cloud ibex
we killed his dragon
nah yharon is fine
long bloom
we killed his dragon
he's not very sad about that
ivory sundial
wait what
split mortar
The guy has literally nothing left and will die in a few years anyways
cloud ibex
he comes back it just takes a while
long bloom
he's sad he failed his life mission
ivory sundial
oh right
long bloom
which was to kill every god
split mortar
Yharon will come back in a decade
long bloom
there's still some left
cloud ibex
but he is depressed because he couldn't finish the crusade
ivory sundial
wait is blud really going after the first god 💀
cloud ibex
and also because he realizes the way he was genociding people wasn't the best
split mortar
wait is blud really going after the first god 💀
Yep
split mortar
Not like yharim could win since xeroc has the unmatched power of the fucking sun
long bloom
easily
ivory sundial
interesting
split mortar
Not like yharim could win since xeroc has the unmatched power of the fucking sun
Could reduce him to a pile of dust
ivory sundial
ok so will there be any bosses after scal?
long bloom
yeah
ivory sundial
(without counting yharim)
long bloom
yharim
split mortar
and by far the most powerful god
By far the most powerful thing in general
split mortar
(without counting yharim)
Noxus and xeroc may get added if the devs still wanna work in calamity
ivory sundial
wait asec is chtuhlugglu (idfk how to say it) in the calamity lore?
long bloom
no
cloud ibex
nah
ivory sundial
ik
long bloom
cthulhu means big monster in cal
ivory sundial
who is moonlord then
cloud ibex
the term "cthulhu" is just something that refers to dangerous monsters
long bloom
who is moonlord then
space asshole
split mortar
who is moonlord then
Space guy who appeared randomly and nuked the dragons
long bloom
again i highly recommend reading the lore doc
ivory sundial
but im lazy :(
long bloom
the writing is good
cloud ibex
i have bad news
long bloom
it's hype moments and aura
split mortar
It has all ingame lore
cloud ibex
you're gonna have to read regardless
ivory sundial
nooo dont esnd me to the doc
split mortar
I am still yet to read the lore doc
long bloom
well if you do everything in the game then you don't need to
split mortar
Fair
ivory sundial
long bloom
Does the lore doc get updated
yes
but there hasn't been anything to update in over a year
random mulch
we haven't gotten any new in-game lore since may of last year
long bloom
we haven't gotten any new in-game lore since may of last year
wdym
superradiant slaughterer is super lore relevant 
icy veldt
Lore Doc 2 when?
split mortar
After sso
icy veldt
Darn 
random mulch
split mortar
Chat do yall think slimegod went from humanoid to slowly liquidating to the orb
wanton pendant
Return To Slime.
brazen swallow
Chat do yall think slimegod went from humanoid to slowly liquidating to the orb
this is kinda terrifying
long bloom
metamorphosis
brazen swallow
makes me wonder how providence transformed into a giant rock and crystal creature
brazen swallow
metamorphosis
real
still a scary process 
imagine one of those anime transformation scenes and it's just a guy dissolving into a purple and red slime thing
hoary cape
They just instantly liquified upon getting the soul obviously
And then just realized it didn't kill them
random mulch
still experimenting with the sludge
wanton pendant
Wait, I realize why it's familiar.
brazen swallow
I wonder if gods can decide how they look
or if their powers decide what they look like
brazen swallow
still experimenting with the sludge
ohh it's pretty cool
wanton pendant
I'd assume the latter.
random mulch
making a fitting design for something as arbitrary as slime is kinda hard
wanton pendant
I remember watching a video on what Terraria's slime consistency would be like.
brazen swallow
interesting
what did the video say?
wanton pendant
I think it was like they have a bouncy exterior but a sticky interior.
So like, they have an outer layer.
long bloom
membrane
wanton pendant
Yeah that.
long bloom
that's why slime is bouncy, liquidy and sticky at the same time
there's multiple slime parts
wanton pendant
Did you see that video?
long bloom
yuh
limpid saddle
I wonder if gods can decide how they look
or if their powers decide what they lo...
The latter, kind of? But it seems more to be about how the ascension ritual goes
wanton pendant
I doubt Tyrian or whatever their name is wanted to look like an angler fish with a gun hand. Or, I don't know, maybe he did. I don't judge.
Oh also rock butterfly.
split mortar
I wonder if gods can decide how they look
or if their powers decide what they lo...
From what i know most of the time they have little control over what the domain changes their body into
wanton pendant
Like, I feel like there's kind of a consequence of forsaking your humanity for power. That being your body becomes radically different.
limpid saddle
It seems the transformations are simultaneously reflections of the 'god' (as in the person who ascended)'s soul & the dragon whom possessed said auric soul
wanton pendant
Silva is mostly the same, maybe a perfect ascension retains your original form better.
limpid saddle
Like, I feel like there's kind of a consequence of forsaking your humanity for p...
Well Ontonilou & Tyrian look pretty normal
limpid saddle
because we know the former was just a jellyfish person beforehand & the latter we can also assume was just a fish guy
limpid saddle
It seems the transformations are simultaneously reflections of the 'god' (as in ...
This is my little design theory though
split mortar
That's far from normal in my book.
Normal compared to what god ascension normally does
wanton pendant
Fair.
limpid saddle
Because we know the Slime God is a very restrained person, constantly battling insatiable hunger, & i think thats represented by how (relatively) small they are, & the dragon of gluttony is represented by them becoming slime
wanton pendant
Because slimes assimilate.
limpid saddle
(Also if we're going off my 'Aftermath' theory for God Ascensions then we can also potentially say that becoming slime is represented as being 'consumed' by gluttony rather literally)
limpid saddle
Because slimes assimilate.
also true
wanton pendant
Also, I was thinking earlier, what do you think Yharim would have been god of had he become God-King? I was imagining it could be something like Divine Right.
split mortar
It would be adjacent to rebirth so
limpid saddle
not really relevant to rebirth
wanton pendant
I'd argue Divine Right could be, the idea that kings are ordained to rule, a property that outlives them to their successors.
limpid saddle
I'd argue Divine Right could be, the idea that kings are ordained to rule, a pro...
feels like a bit of a stretch
wanton pendant
Do you have an alternative proposal?
limpid saddle
First thing that came to mind was 'God of Eternity'
probably a better word for it out there but the idea is conveyed
long bloom
sounds neat
split mortar
I think eternity prob fits best since the gods would prob try doing that (and fail like the dragons)
What does eternity domain entail
Uh
Idk
limpid saddle
What does eternity domain entail
cant die
long bloom
aren't the dragons the embodiment of like
trying to live in the past
limpid saddle
but like shit immortality that sucks
long bloom
something with that maybe
limpid saddle
like the kind where you can still lose limbs
wanton pendant
God of Souls?
split mortar
Name like that has very strong implications
Brain dumb rn what are those implications
wanton pendant
No part of Yharim being God-King is good.
limpid saddle
Brain dumb rn what are those implications
well domain of souls
he can fuck with souls
which, wait wouldn't that just be like necromancy & such?
wanton pendant
I mean, Yharon is the inspiration for necromancy.
limpid saddle
dont we already have a respective dragon/god for that
split mortar
Fair agnus/ravager are rather associated with that
wanton pendant
God of Reincarnation, so when he dies he comes back with no memory.
limpid saddle
God of Reincarnation, so when he dies he comes back with no memory.
Doesnt really work given how god souls work
because y'know
when the god dies they explode
because they're so unstable
split mortar
Reincarnates into evil 2
wanton pendant
What's stopping him from being an exception like Yharon is.
wanton pendant
Needing outside help to revive. Yharon revives himself.
brazen swallow
The latter, kind of? But it seems more to be about how the ascension ritual goes
oh yeah
I like to imagine the slime god just eating the soul and after a while dissolving out of nowhere
brazen swallow
From what i know most of the time they have little control over what the domain ...
ohh I see
split mortar
Needing outside help to revive. Yharon revives himself.
Every dragon needs the help of the rebirth domain to rebirth yharon can just do it on himself
I dont see that as a exception
wanton pendant
It still means he can do it on himself. Would it be so unreasonable to believe that a godly soul derived from Yharon could have a semblance of such an ability?
split mortar
The soul may have the power to but it would still explode before it can
long bloom
i think god of eternity makes more sense
limpid saddle
God-King Yharim about to die: "You fools... I will return, in a new body, with new life!" before dying & immideatly detonating
long bloom
lo
wanton pendant
It kinda undermines the hypothetical to just say 'well he might have the ability but it wouldn't work anyway.'
limpid saddle
yeah but you're proposing a hypothetical ability that wouldn't work
we're not just gonna start ignoring hard rules of the setting for this
split mortar
i think god of eternity makes more sense
I think eternity is prob the most fitting
long bloom
or infinity but that sounds dumber
limpid saddle
its nice to have my ideas make sense & be accepted : )
light linden
@cosmic zenith hey can you help here?
pliant ruin
still experimenting with the sludge
Definitely has alot of personality with the googly eyes, i dig it
Fits the "Slime" theme being a goopy amoprhous guy while being definitely more unique and interesting in its silhouette than just terrarai slimes
If i had to add anything, i think hinting at its relation with the kinsmen/balance through its design would be cool
Perhaps it could wear some sort of amulet or any other sort of ornaments to do that
The Yin-Yang symbolism it used to have but since then seemingly died ironically works better for the new lore than the old lore lol
It both fits the balance motifs and the fact its associated with a eastern asian themed faction
light linden
ngl I just don't like how plain the slime god looks now
it looks less pure and more like it's just a ball of spider webs
dusk laurel
not like the old design was really better
light linden
yeah
in fact it kinda mislead me tbh
I thought it was originally pure but then got taken over by the corruption and crimson
pliant ruin
I do like the new design better but it's nothing too crazy yeah
Feel like it could be far more interesting
I'll give credit where credit is due i love the little animations it has
they have a ton of personality
random mulch
the new design's kinda funny in a sense but it's really nothing special
it's called a "god" but it's just a sphere with an eye
pliant ruin
The design itself is kind of bland though, it dosen't really lean enough into the amorphous nature of Slime n also just like, dosen't do much with SG's narrative motifs either
pliant ruin
still experimenting with the sludge
The uneven-ess of this design with all the different sizes of tentacles and eyes and appendages and all adds alot to making it look like an amorphous creechur while still giving it distinct shape language that isn't just. "Well it's amorphous so let's make it a indistinct shape like a ball or something (aka vanilla slimes lol)"
it's quite The Awesome
random mulch
very much also kept the nervous eye (or eyes with this one) because it was pretty much the only destinguising feature of slime god's redesign and it adds a lot of personality
pliant ruin
the way the eyes are kinda these big googly eyes too gives it a sort of goofy, kind of paranoid charm that i think fits slime god super well. obviously dudes like the weakest god and is known to be a coward so i think a goofy vibe fits it well
yeahh
long bloom
ur design is goated tbh they should literally hire you
pliant ruin
Really all that i'd personally add is more visual symbolism connection it to the themes of balance and the kinsman aesthethics
light linden
personally I wish there was a way to 'show' it getting rid of impurities
wanton pendant
It could leak vile fluids.
pliant ruin
personally I wish there was a way to 'show' it getting rid of impurities
I feel like the Paladins would be the best way to do this given they absorb em
Which is kinda done with the current paladins but like
It's a bit hard to tell
Given stuff like crimslimes and ebonslimes exist
random mulch
what if paladins literally just also had random bits of stone n' wood in them
pliant ruin
The line between
Absorbs impurity to cleanse it - Literally jsut some evil biome infected creature idk
Is admittedly kind of hard to draw i feel
light linden
personally I wish there was a way to 'show' it getting rid of impurities
I talked having it be dripping colored gel from the bottom parts but idk if that's possible
pliant ruin
Would be cool if the design was more clear on that end but admittedly i'm not sure how lol
limpid saddle
The line between
Absorbs impurity to cleanse it - Literally jsut some evil biom...
Maybe if we're still using the simple slime shape, a kind of nervous system look in the centre of the slime?
Like a strong striking colour that communicates 'purification' such as white lining the inside of the slime spreading outward
random mulch
what if the paladins were sorta a mess of corrupt/ crimson gel n' stuff on one side but it swirls and transitions into purified gel on the other side
cosmic zenith
?
long bloom
@light linden stip here
light linden
?
oh they were arguing if god-king yharim could come back from the dead
pinged to see if you could help resolve it
random mulch
think i got the bodyplan down for it
long bloom
peak
brazen swallow
think i got the bodyplan down for it
amazing
random mulch
still wanted a way for slime god to grab stuff so i made the tail longer so it can wrap it around things
long bloom
Probably not
oh yeah speaking of
stip have yall designed slime god's sigil yet
light linden
think i got the bodyplan down for it
what am I looking at?
random mulch
slime god design i made
random mulch
i'm pretty happy with how the base design turned out
still need to work on other stuff like any extra things or the color scheme
wanton pendant
I'd assume they're sensory organs of some kind.
brazen swallow
interesting
random mulch
glowy spots i added to give the design something other than slimy skin and eyeballs
brazen swallow
the shiny part makes me think about its way to channel its power, but it's slime so no idea
brazen swallow
glowy spots i added to give the design something other than slimy skin and eyeba...
oh yeah
random mulch
but it could definitely be retoactively explained
tropic oak
dragon of primordial night
random mulch
dragon of primordial might
split mortar
dragon of primordial night
the dragon shakidou ate
tropic oak
dragon of primordial might
all-might soul
split mortar
-# except it just be normal night
frosty charm
Dragon of primordial sight
tropic oak
true
split mortar
dragon of primordial blight
long bloom
dragon of primordial fright
split mortar
whats all the info we know of dragon of flame
cloud ibex
they were slain with "righteous fury"
long bloom
was an evil bastard
cloud ibex
or however the hell prov's bestiary entry phrases it
long bloom
lived in hell probably bc fire
icy veldt
Probably didn't resemble a cat
random mulch
probably larger than 1 atom
tropic oak
that his name is zaelithar
icy veldt
Tasted like chicken
cosmic zenith
oh yeah speaking of
stip have yall designed slime god's sigil yet
I don't think there's a definitive one yet
long bloom
I don't think there's a definitive one yet
will it be added to the sprite once it's done
cosmic zenith
That is apparently the plan
long bloom
sweet
random mulch
still wanted a way for slime god to grab stuff so i made the tail longer so it c...
also, sketch with this
brazen swallow
absolute cinema
wanton pendant
*Absolute Slime.
brazen swallow
true true
long bloom
bit on the nose ain't it
hoary cape
Absolute cinema more like absolute slimema
frosty charm
would it be safe to say that dragons/their offshoots are at least a little instinctually afraid of the moon lord considering they nearly murdered their whole race
tropic oak
probably
frosty charm
thanks. i am unwithered bonnie.
wanton pendant
The old magic instincts. Never fails.
split mortar
Add lea channel
wanton pendant
Remove Lea Channel.
split mortar
What the fuck
wheat walrus
stone phone
wanton pendant
Phony stone phone.
tropic oak
silva witnessed xeroc’s ascension thats how she perfectly ascended too 
long bloom
ture
wanton pendant
tropic oak
after she perfectly ascended she locked the terminus up
silva evil
or she perfectly ascended, other god-wannabes attempted to get the terminus from her after she got the terminus from the abyss and then the god-wannabes threw her into the abyss with it and thats why she’s there guarding it
this is my epic theory
evil silva
wanton pendant
My theory is that she's from the future and went back in time to stop the other gods from perfect ascending and ending the world.
tropic oak
this proves my theory silva and xeroc are lovers
tropic oak
My theory is that she's from the future and went back in time to stop the other ...
True…
wanton pendant
Also, the deer stuff is a red herring, she's clearly a hedgehog.
wanton pendant
Thank you Unwithered the Bonnie.
jaunty wraith
Wasn't the reason xeroc had a perfect ascension because not just he was mighty powerful to begin with but absorbed the soul of the most powerful dragon
split mortar
Wasn't the reason xeroc had a perfect ascension because not just he was mighty p...
Ascensions arent just a power check for prefect ones
frosty charm
They actually roll a slots machine holding the terminus rigs it
wanton pendant
Silva got her auric soul from the Life Dragon, and unless we were to assume that was Dragon no. 3 and only the top 3 can do perfect ascensions that doesn't really add up.
jaunty wraith
What if you just have to roll a d20
wanton pendant
There would probably be a lot more perfect ascended gods.
jaunty wraith
Nah, they all got bad luck cause they place wrong torches in the wrong biomes
split mortar
Nah, they all got bad luck cause they place wrong torches in the wrong biomes
Bad Torch luck doesnt push you to the negatives all it does is counteract any good torch luck iirc
wheat walrus
VAJRAGUETTE 🌩️💎🥖
wanton pendant
Huh?
wheat walrus
😔
wanton pendant
I don't speak France.
wheat walrus
The Vajra isn't even a french thing
It's a ritual tool and also Indra's weapon in buddhist mythology
I just mixed it with a baguette cause teto
long bloom
lore discussion
wheat walrus
I will kill DoG with the Vajraguette
wanton pendant
Teto? You mean Red Miku?
wheat walrus
Blows u up
wanton pendant
Miku Hatsune.
split mortar
Teto? You mean Red Miku?
Miku is blue neru
wheat walrus
I will kill DoG with the Vajraguette
Since Indra used the Vajra to kill a giant serpent demon
wanton pendant
Isn't that Yellow Miku?
wanton pendant
There's Blue Miku who made Minecraft.
split mortar
Since Indra used the Vajra to kill a giant serpent demon
Oh wait thats omni
split mortar
At this point i dont know how i sometimes dont notice its you
wheat walrus
gng
wanton pendant
Calamitas' brothers?
wheat walrus
They're 3,14% alive
split mortar
They alive kinda
Sometimes
Situationally
wheat walrus
Anyways Melon Gun yesterday I stole all your luck while you were sleeping
wanton pendant
Good.
wheat walrus
Sorry I js had to
wanton pendant
British pe*ple aren't meant to have luck.
cloud ibex
lore discussion
split mortar
Sorry I js had to
Nah understood
wheat walrus
Nah understood
I'll give it back to u on the 30th oke
split mortar
👍
wheat walrus
🔥
tall delta
What does eternity domain entail
well if this domain is a potential result from consuming yharon soul which is 25% rebirth and 75% fire
you would probably get magical fire
and like eternity in calamity have ties with like stuck in time, past and all that
but also some god have twists in their domain/god form like agnus and his third insane eye
so a god of eternity could also like idk shoot swords lo
gritty kraken
Mutant in calamity real
icy veldt
Hey Yharim! Why don't you try Angus Beef instead of Beefing with Agnus, HUH???????
light linden
I can't lie
I've always wondered if having the auric soul of life still be the soul of life but the auric soul of death not be the soul of death anymore would cause problems
I doubt it'd cause any major issues considering the souls aren't like elementals but still
light linden
I guess it depends on how important the world soul was to life forming in general how many issues it'd cause
again
doubt it'd cause any major issues
but having the domain of life be stronger than death doesn't seem great
wanton pendant
well if this domain is a potential result from consuming yharon soul which is 25...
Yharon's soul is Rebirth, Fire was a different one. Just because he has fire powers doesn't mean he has a soul based around fire.
light linden
but having the domain of life be stronger than death doesn't seem great
reminds me of some apocalyptic marvel universe
wanton pendant
I'd presume that the Auric Souls and by extension Godly Souls only had power over their aspect to some degree, they weren't literal manifestations of it, unlike the Elementals which do appear to be living embodiments of what they represent.
light linden
reminds me of some apocalyptic marvel universe
earth-10011 I think
light linden
I'd presume that the Auric Souls and by extension Godly Souls only had power ove...
I kinda said that
wanton pendant
So killing the Goddess of Electricity didn't cause electricity to cease to exist.
light linden
I kinda said that already dude
wanton pendant
In the Elementals case, their existence is tied to their element, so they can't die so long as their element exists.
split mortar
but having the domain of life be stronger than death doesn't seem great
I dont see how any issues could arise
wanton pendant
split mortar
I dont see how any issues could arise
Unless my mentally exhausted and physically tired brain is misinterpreting something you said
Also the death domain just doesnt exist anymore
light linden
it might be the fact that in every piece of literature where life or death becomes stronger than the other
things go poorly
split mortar
Fair
light linden
also in general it doesn't seem great to have one side change like at all
wanton pendant
So it's a good thing the domains are only power relating to the aspect, not fundamentally required for the aspect to exist or function.
light linden
I already said that
wanton pendant
And I'm agreeing with you.
pliant ruin
yeah i can't see any way it'd be a bad thing given the domains are like
self contained
the only influence the power of the wielder
they dont influence the world at large
dense lynx
Who would win? Yharim or Darth Vader?
split mortar
Darth vader has comics so probably vader
dense lynx
Then can Calamitas beat Homelander?
mossy tangle
has anyone ever made a document or a slide ordering all the events w/ details from in-game references yet? or something similar?
i'd be interested to see one
split mortar
Then can Calamitas beat Homelander?
Homelander is like late prehardmode or early hardmode iirc
split mortar
Unfinished mod moment
limpid saddle
has anyone ever made a document or a slide ordering all the events w/ details fr...
Not really possible given a fair few major events have not been integrated into the mod yet
Like you could do it, the lore document exists, but Calamity Lore as told by the Calamity Mod's in-game content us a bit messy right now
An example would be that if I recall correctly, despite being the God Of The Sea, who ruled alongside Ontonilou in Illmeris, Tyrian is never mentioned by name
stuck hemlock
who is noxus lorewise?
cloud ibex
some unknown Creature from the Distortion
presumably the only thing DoG is actually loyal to
stuck hemlock
what do we know about the distortion?
cloud ibex
i think just that it's ancient, the creatures in there appear to be part of some kind of hive mind and DoG and the Sentinels are from there
long bloom
what do we know about the distortion?
some wacky other dimension that houses actual incomprehensible horrors
noxus appears to be in control of some kind of hivemind, forcing most or all other creatures to serve them
it also created ceaseless void (the only known stable portal to the distortion) and possibly DoG
storm weaver escaped the distortion and is now free of the hivemind, which is very worrying to DoG for some unknown reason
signus is said to be around the same tier of the "distortion hiearchy" as noxus (oversimplified) and likes to make deals with people, notably statis- who appears to have been sent back to terraria by signus in exchange for something
limpid saddle
signus is said to be around the same tier of the "distortion hiearchy" as noxus ...
dont we know he gave him a literal arm & a leg
long bloom
dont we know he gave him a literal arm & a leg
could've lost them fighting The Horde
unless a dev stated otherwise idk
limpid saddle
im quite sure it has at some point yes
cloud ibex
well he made a deal with the faustian rat bastard and i'm pretty sure it was outright stated to have "cost him an arm and a leg"
think it'd be weird if they went "no no signus didn't actually take them that was unrelated 😇"
limpid saddle
I mean I remember hearing even the missing limbs were how Signus was going to 'possess' Statis for the bossfight
cloud ibex
we didn't either but triangle explained the connection at one point
long bloom
ofc it was him 
cloud ibex
signus can't directly interact with our world, he needs a physical vessel
in his boss fight, he possesses Statis' body so he can fight you
it's essentially a deal where if you win he lets statis go and if you lose, he'd take you as his new vessel instead
long bloom
yeah i knew that part
cosmic minnow
Wait is there a list of mentioned gods and worshippers?
and how they died
(If they did)
long bloom
not an official one
cosmic minnow
Inofficial?
long bloom
i can list every known god
or someone else can
cloud ibex
other than the ones you fight yourself there's Silva (as close to dead as she could be thanks to being pulped by Yharim), Otonilou (iirc she fought Cal for a while but eventually lost), Tyrian (unknown but i'd be very surprised if he's still alive), Agnus (allowed Yharim to kill him so he wouldn't harm his followers) and Shakidou (unknown)
i think that's all of them
also the gods of Dogma and War
limpid saddle
Wait is there a list of mentioned gods and worshippers?
Ontonilou, Goddess Of Electricity, got grilled by Calamitas
Tyrian, God Of The Sea, also grilled by Calamitas
Shakidou, God of (I forget what the new domain is) personally slaughtered by Yharim
Unnamed God Of War, also killed by Yharim
Unnamed God of Dogma, death by Yharim
Agnus, God Of Sacrifices, death by Yharmy
Agnus's Ressurected Corpse, God Of Blood, death by Terrarian
Silva, not dead but rotting in the sea
cloud ibex
shakidou is Night i believe
limpid saddle
Providence, Goddess Of Ash, also death by Terrarian
Slime God, currently unnamed, death by Terrarian
& i believe thats all of them
We dont really know about worshippers though
split mortar
We dunno for sure if tyrian is dead iirc
Just most likely since calamitas was there
split mortar
shakidou is Night i believe
Shakidou ate night but is emptiness
long bloom
shakidou is Night i believe
changed to emptiness
cloud ibex
almost
limpid saddle
The only characters who were actual followers of Gods were Statis, Onyx Kinsmen, thus follower of Slime God, & Brealor, Paladin Of Silva
cloud ibex
probably gorthus and all the other nerds stip has mentioned too
split mortar
Could shakidou contain radiance
limpid saddle
Could shakidou contain radiance
probably not
I dont know Hollow Knight powerscaling much but the Infection got like fuckin everybody
global brainrot
mighty zenith
i feel like the only way to permamently stop the radiance is to kill her
split mortar
I dont know Hollow Knight powerscaling much but the Infection got like fuckin ev...
She is basically a cognito hazard
Shade lord vs xeroc
limpid saddle
i feel like the only way to permamently stop the radiance is to kill her
dreaming on my no more until i void heart
long bloom
here i made a handy list of each god and the dragon they ascended from
for future use
split mortar
Dragon of gluttony is gloomborf >:(
cloud ibex
i think it'd be better to say rav's "auric soul" is n/a
long bloom
true
cloud ibex
cause it seems the way his transformation work was that his domain was changed, not that he found a new soul
split mortar
This name is like raelvanna or whatever for flame dragon
Known but not final afaik
Fuck oops ping
long bloom
This name is like raelvanna or whatever for flame dragon
Known but not final afa...
oh shit hype
split mortar
Yea
long bloom
updated again
i would put it in one image but my new phone can't take long screenshots of notion for some fuckin reason
split mortar
Fair
wanton pendant
Signus is meant to be possessing Statis?
limpid saddle
Signus is meant to be possessing Statis?
in the rework yeah
Thats been doing the rounds for months now
Its like a Clothier deal
You do Statis's questline, & it ends with you fighting Signus possessing Statis
Wonder if we'll have pre-battle banter...
wanton pendant
'Now... Kills Signus.
Before he kills you.'
ivory sundial
hi guy
wanton pendant
The God that tried to turn Yharim into God-King.
He's been dead for over a hundred years.
He's one of the main components of the Hive Mind boss.
real glen
hmm
limpid saddle
Yeah Dogma & War respectively were the central Gods responsible for the Corruption & Crimson
long bloom
specifically hive mind and perforator hive
wanton pendant
So I was thinking, would there actually be a bunch of different evil biome bosses made up of different conglomerates of gods, and we happen to only fight one, being Evil2?
ivory sundial
why didnt yharim want to be a god king????
wanton pendant
Because the Gods were enslaving and abusing him, so he didn't like them.
Then Yharon told him about their genocides so he decided they all must die.
long bloom
why didnt yharim want to be a god king????
he didn't want to kill an innocent dragon
also the gods were dickheads and yeah abused him, they were trying to turn him into a puppet
wanton pendant
Here's a chart I made of character motivations, if you'd like.
wanton pendant
A sigil belonging to Xeroc.
split mortar
what is the terminus
A powerful artefact that likely is partly how one does perfect ascension
split mortar
Xeroc notices us when we use it and decides to create boss rush on the fly to test us
wanton pendant
Xeroc thought it would be funny.
long bloom
they do a bit of trolling
split mortar
The sillies
cloud ibex
Xeroc creates copies of the shit we’ve already fought out of primordial light and tossed them at us
wanton pendant
Like Green Lantern.
long bloom
hardlight bosses
split mortar
Like Green Lantern.
Xeroc is a green lantern member who paints their stuff yellow
wanton pendant
Someone doesn't know the lore.
cloud ibex
Yellow lantern
wanton pendant
Green Lanterns are weak to the colour yellow.
cloud ibex
I think that one is fear
split mortar
Nah i know
Xeroc just doesnt seem to be the type to inflict fear
austere egret
i should do this
wanton pendant
But then how will I share my handy dandy charts?
wheat walrus
ein replying to days old msgs
byea this time i might be w u on this lwk
might, have to think abt it more
dusk laurel
truth
mystic totem
How can Calamitas be around 25-30 years old if Yharim is 120-130 years old? I thought Scal joined him at the beginning of his crusade rather than end, which he started around his 20s
random mulch
calamitas did join yharim near the end of the crusade
mighty zenith
out of the main characters she joined him last
split mortar
How can Calamitas be around 25-30 years old if Yharim is 120-130 years old? I th...
She joined in like the last decade of the crusade
mystic totem
out of the main characters she joined him last
I thought the last who joined his army was DoG
split mortar
It was calamitas
long bloom
second last
dog joined ~60 years before the game starts iirc
cal joined ~15 years before
mystic totem
Okay, thanks. I just saw everywhere that Permafrost along with Calamitas were one of his first troops
long bloom
no perma joined significantly earlier
but he did still mentor calamitas once she joined
mystic totem
Okay, thanks. I just saw everywhere that Permafrost along with Calamitas were on...
Is this old lore or smth?
long bloom
i don't remember that part of old lore enough to say
mystic totem
no perma joined significantly earlier
So, he's the first one? Or Draedon joined him earlier?
long bloom
So, he's the first one? Or Draedon joined him earlier?
unclear
mighty zenith
they made a new one to clear things up
mystic totem
i assume you saw that one hour long video
I saw like 3 videos that one hour long. Can't tell if this video was one of them
Ok, thanks everyone
mighty zenith
https://youtu.be/DW3EVvt57_A meant this one
long bloom
youtube is generally very untrustworthy for lore
i recommend reading the pinned google doc
it just has all the lore that's actually in the game
random mulch
actually correct lore video wwhen
split mortar
Make it yourself be the change you want
long bloom
3 views
pulsar ocean
https://youtu.be/DW3EVvt57_A meant this one
does it mention gorthus
mighty zenith
no 💔
pulsar ocean
ass lore vid
brazen swallow
https://youtu.be/DW3EVvt57_A meant this one
I think this video is decently accurate
I'll watch it again now that I read the lore doc
long bloom
lo
brazen swallow
I see
long bloom
tbf virtually none of the crusade timeline is even established yet
leaden bridge
Yharim killed the god of crusades
brazen swallow
I wonder if the devs will release an official timeline
brazen swallow
Yharim killed the god of crusades
chat is this real
split mortar
Killed the god of war so half kinda maybe idk
brazen swallow
kratos
mystic totem
Yharim killed the god of crusades
He killed the god of appearance in the game
long bloom
ture
brazen swallow
LMAO
split mortar
Yharim what the fuck why did you kill my graphics card
random mulch
killed the god of graphics cards 😔
long bloom
he killed jensen huang??
split mortar
Chat
Question
Would the flame dragon have a specific type of fire or is it just strong fire powers
strong notch
Would the flame dragon have a specific type of fire or is it just strong fire po...
something like draconic flame
limpid saddle
which do you guys think would have stronger flames
Brimstone Elemental (before Calamitas drained her like she was a mosquito) or Fire Dragon
mystic totem
Would the flame dragon have a specific type of fire or is it just strong fire po...
I think they have a specific type
brazen swallow
Would the flame dragon have a specific type of fire or is it just strong fire po...
yharon and providence have different fire styles so maybe it's like that
jaunty wraith
killed the god of graphics cards 😔
Actually infernum Providence did that
split mortar
infernum signus
void kelp
i recommend reading the pinned google doc
Where is it
zenith geode
in pins
long bloom
pinned 
void kelp
Bruh I didnt Read that i might be restarted
glossy wolf
who was silva
long bloom
who was silva
elemental of nature and goddess of life
currently in a coma at the bottom of the abyss
split mortar
Also the first dryad
long bloom
yeah that too
split mortar
She collected a lot of titles
long bloom
collect my titles
icy veldt
Idea: a God of Dragons, who ascended with the soul of the Dragon of Gods
confused Yharim noises
long bloom
never cook again 🔥
icy veldt
It would be really funny, trust me
split mortar
Could a god with the domain of gods exist
Dragon with that dont fit our understanding of how the domains work iirc but a gods domain is a lot less defined in what can or cant be afaik
long bloom
how are you gonna be the god of dragons when there aren't any
split mortar
Its the offshoot dragons
random mulch
after the second to last dragon got killed he got demoted to god of dragon 😔
long bloom
peak
split mortar
God of yharon
random mulch
had total control over yharon's actions but all he ever did was mildly annoy him
real silo
Could a god with the domain of gods exist
Dragon with that dont fit our underst...
Ascended from dragon of dragons
limpid saddle
after the second to last dragon got killed he got demoted to god of dragon 😔
this is the funniest idea i've heard in the last month
frosty charm
If Yharim became god queen how many lives would they have
split mortar
If Yharim became god queen how many lives would they have
0 because god souls monster undertale on death into god essence
long bloom
happy for yharim's transition
wanton pendant
If he became queen he would be able to move horizontally and diagonally an unlimited number of tiles.
long bloom
true!
wanton pendant
However, he would be unable to jump over his enemies and allies, a crucial weakness.
random mulch
what color(s) should me slime god design be
split mortar
Green like the weakest slime
icy veldt
Pink, like the strongest slime
long bloom
i like the grey tbh
split mortar
i like the grey tbh
True
split mortar
Do the goozma style of spicing up the grey with rainbow idk
random mulch
of course i'm gonna give it some extra stuff
limpid saddle
Do the goozma style of spicing up the grey with rainbow idk
I always liked the redesigned goozma look
random mulch
but i wanna finalize slime god itself first
limpid saddle
The swirling muddied, kind of gasoline-esque rainbow
could work well as a colour scheme but would be kind of a pain in the ass to implement
zenith geode
remorse for grooming calamitas? iirc somewhat
remorse for committing genocide? absolutely not
long bloom
gg
split mortar
Does Yharim feel.. remorse?
remorse for the wrong things
killing half the planet? nah
nuking italy? nah
making a child be the nuke? iirc yeah
random mulch
he feels bad about the fact that he didn't get to finish his genocide
light linden
remorse for the wrong things
killing half the planet? nah
nuking italy? nah
maki...
italy is in calamity?
split mortar
italy is in calamity?
ilmeris is roughly italy sized iirc
zenith geode
ilmeris was two and a half portugals which is quite a bit smaller than italy
vast cosmos
Why does Calamitas hate John Terraria
long bloom
she thinks you'll be yharim 2
vast cosmos
Well
long bloom
then realizes you're not
random mulch
by getting beat up i guess
vast cosmos
then realizes you're not
I mean I kill a few gods
long bloom
with the goal of killing yharim
vast cosmos
I dont think the Slime God is evil or anything
long bloom
also provi and rav are assholes
vast cosmos
with the goal of killing yharim
John Terraria has a goal?
mighty zenith
yeah thats the basic goal but the reason for why thats the goal is for you to think about
cause yknow, sandbox character
long bloom
because
THE TERRARIAN
random mulch
IS
vast cosmos
Why would Evil Johnman want to kill Yharim
split mortar
Why would Evil Johnman want to kill Yharim
Why do you say terrarian is evil
vast cosmos
No my character is called Evil Johnman
hushed jasper
Why would Evil Johnman want to kill Yharim
Cuz yes
vast cosmos
To be clear John Terraria =/= Evil Johnman
vast cosmos
the game's story will end by killing yharim
Does that mean yharim will be a boss or
hushed jasper
Does that mean yharim will be a boss or
Yes
vast cosmos
Wowee
long bloom
many years from now
hushed jasper
in the final update
More like final content update
long bloom
yuh
hushed jasper
many years from now
Before gta 6 tho
vast cosmos
Before gta 6 tho
Before Silksong
okay now that ive beaten the game
I have to actually figure the lore out
but i think i get the gist of it
and then maybe ill do death mode
hushed jasper
Before Silksong
Silksong is in 7 days
vast cosmos
Silksong is in 7 days
calamity final update is in 6 days toby fox told me himself
river python
I have a question
The Slime god, has absorbed an Auric Soul, right?
Cuz if yes, how tf that happened, Slimes are supposed to have no brain
robust osprey
they werent slime before
long bloom
slime god was a human
robust osprey
they were human
and became slime
after absorbing the soul
providence was also human aswell
this is true for every god
well, humans and ilmerians
long bloom
humanoid
vast cosmos
is there anything special about ilmerians
long bloom
boiled
split mortar
Calamitas wanted fish fingers
limpid saddle
grilled
light linden
still wondering where all the rain from illmeris's incineration went
it had to have reached the surface otherwise the ruins would be underwater
frosty charm
0 because god souls monster undertale on death into god essence
so what would he even be the god of then
split mortar
The writers have left that blank
Up to us to theorise
Other then the fact yharim wouldnt be god of rebirth since he wouldnt perfectly ascens
strong notch
it had to have reached the surface otherwise the ruins would be underwater
evaporated and spread all over Terraria and into both oceans
split mortar
The jungle
Theres so much fucking water
strong notch
the incineration was too soon to form an ocean with coral
the oceans were already there
it just added some water into them
frosty charm
was ilmeris underwater or did water flood in because of the incineration messing everything up
id assume already underwater
strong notch
id assume already underwater
already
frosty charm
but it also seems hard to build stuff underwater
light linden
The jungle
Theres so much fucking water
not enough for nearly 100k square miles of water
strong notch
but it also seems hard to build stuff underwater
it's certainly hard when you are not a seahorse dude
long bloom
id assume already underwater
it was already underwater
frosty charm
i heard
long bloom
that's its entire thing
robust osprey
but it also seems hard to build stuff underwater
if you can swim as a fish and breath underwater it wouldnt be that bad
wanton pendant
It was a sea kingdom, I think it was 'technically' not a sea but some kind of underwater reservoir, but that's more semantics. But it was probably mainly fish people.
river python
they werent slime before
Soo.. the domain of the Auric Dragon, They've absorbed was like the Dragon of the Slimes or something like that?
wanton pendant
Gluttony.
Only two gods are known to have the same domain as the dragon they got the soul from.
That being Life and Primordial Light.
All others had the domain change in the process.
zenith geode
for example, providence consumed the auric soul of the dragon of fire
robust osprey
yeah the god domain is probably the result of the dragon domain (like fire --> ash)
pliant ruin
I dont think the Slime God is evil or anything
he jumps you
no matter whether he's actively malicious or not he jumps you in a attempt to kill you
For seemingly no discernible reason
brazen swallow
slime god is just hungry and the terrarian looked like food, trust
pliant ruin
Which is like pretty fucked up even if hes not like EEEVILL so i think with
what's currently ingame slime god is at most morally dubious and youre justified in killing it given Bro Jumps You
he's Not A Good Guy unless evidence points otherwise
wanton pendant
Slime God is just like Calamitas and simply thought you were Yharim 2 and was significantly more proactive unlike Supreme Fraud, Calamitas.
brazen swallow
calamitas was too busy hunting snails in her cave
brazen swallow
Slime God is just like Calamitas and simply thought you were Yharim 2 and was si...
I like how this expands on slime god being smart (if you count slime god knowing how and when to retreat smart)
they recognized yharim's hunger for power in the terrarian
except the terrarian does it uhhh
just for the fun of grinding bosses?
I don't think the player is actually canon or anything
visual kiln
For seemingly no discernible reason
hi chee
split mortar
except the terrarian does it uhhh
just for the fun of grinding bosses? <:clueles...
Im meant to be asleep
vast cosmos
he jumps you
you summon him though
split mortar
Boss summons are mostly not canon cause why would a fully sapient creature decide to stab you for holding a piece of sludge
vast cosmos
then again, aquatic scourge doesnt attack you
wanton pendant
Calamitas I believe is supposed to be attacking you, for instance. Draedon you are in fact summoning.
split mortar
And is optional
You can just not kill em
vast cosmos
then again, aquatic scourge doesnt attack you
Killing aquatic scourge is morally deplorable
vast cosmos
Im meant to be asleep
lets go with the blackout drunk thing
wanton pendant
Killing aquatic scourge is morally deplorable
Aquatic Scourge has a history of racist Tweets, we are only bringing him to justice.
split mortar
Killing aquatic scourge is morally deplorable
Its a wild animal its just hunting at the worst imo rn
Questionable but not really evil
wanton pendant
Said stuff like 'Desert Scourge's are stealing all the food in the desert, and they're WOKE!'
split mortar
Its a wild animal its just hunting at the worst imo rn
Questionable but not real...
Lunatic cultist tho
Ih
vast cosmos
Its a wild animal its just hunting at the worst imo rn
Questionable but not real...
I could never hunt personally
split mortar
I know someone who does
wanton pendant
Lunatic Cultist was on Yharim's side.
vast cosmos
Lunatic cultist tho
doesnt the dude still worship Moon Lord in Calamity
split mortar
Lunatic Cultist was on Yharim's side.
They stop the apocalypse
wanton pendant
The apocalypse was some space guy anyone with a big enough gun could kill.
split mortar
Morality of the person stops mattering when the fate of the world is likely saved by their continued work
wanton pendant
Slime God could solo Moon Lord.
split mortar
The apocalypse was some space guy anyone with a big enough gun could kill.
No one knew if moonlord was in its prime or not
vast cosmos
Slime God could solo Moon Lord.
i think i have like 50 slime god relics stashed in my magic storage
split mortar
idk why else hed cause the pillars
Pillars are moonlords portable celestial army generators
wanton pendant
So Amidias is just telling us to fight max power Moon Lord? Is he stupid?
split mortar
Yes
split mortar
doesnt the dude still worship Moon Lord in Calamity
The guy worships the dragons
Their cult is the dragon cult
wanton pendant
He can't be that strong if some furry can keep him held back.
split mortar
Lunatic is just upkeeping the spell that banished ml the dragons made ages ago afaik
Lunatic cultist is also not that weak
Lore wise
brazen swallow
Im meant to be asleep
LMAO
prime mauve
lunatic cultist is cool
wanton pendant
I didn't say he was weak I called him a furry.
split mortar
Yeah
cosmic zenith
Is that an insult
wanton pendant
Depends on your stance on dressing up as an animal.
split mortar
I didn't say he was weak I called him a furry.
The way you worded it gave degrading the vibes of degrading lunatic and so that implicatoon srose
Isk
Fuck
Spellingd
wanton pendant
How much do you hate Mickey Mouse Mascot costumes?
wanton pendant
HE KNOWS GASTER!?
split mortar
(I know nothing about his lore)
Killing guy is basically a coinflip on ending the world
Type gaster onto terraria and you get sent to idk the meme
Prison
brazen swallow
the secret "gaster" terraria calamity seed
prime mauve
Is that an insult
no he just has a cool mask
and is connected to the best item set
so he's cool
icy veldt
I didn't say he was weak I called him a furry.
Well he dresses up with a bird mask, so he's a feathery, not a furry
wanton pendant
There was some guy a few days ago who was overly hostile towards furries though.
wanton pendant
Well he dresses up with a bird mask, so he's a feathery, not a furry
I think they're under an umbrella.
Since he loves dragons, wouldn't it be a 'scaly' or something?
icy veldt
Unless... the dragons have feathers too! dramatic reveal sound effect
wanton pendant
I mean... the one dragon we know of does have feathers.
Since he's also a pheonix.
frosty charm
since xeroc is relatively unknown who's the most widely known god by the majority of the population
wanton pendant
I mean, Providence is likely infamous as an incredibly dangerous being. And by this point, there are very few living gods left.
Now if the question was most worshipped, it would probably depend on which god lived in the area you lived, and again, most are dead.
zenith geode
by the general public
zenith geode
like yeah people associated with gods are gonna know about xeroc but is jeffrey, who works a dead end 9 to 5 gonna know?
cosmic zenith
no he just has a cool mask
His mask is, in fact, cool
Though it could be cooler irl
wanton pendant
*is* xeroc relatively unknown?
Yharim indicates that Draedon wasn't aware of Xeroc, unless traitor almighty refers to someone who stole Yharim's sweet roll thirty years ago and he's still mad about it. So if even Draedon didn't know, it's unlikely other people would.
strong compass
is it possible the devourer of gods manipulated draedon into becoming the stereotypical crazy german scientist you see in horror movies
since he manipulated yharim into committing heinous acts
brazen swallow
draedon was already crazy
he was just focused on creating stuff for yharim's war effort
strong compass
draedon was already crazy <:XD:936106628833488906>
yeah but horror movie crazy
iykwim
brazen swallow
hmmm
actually no idea, but I think it would fit him in a way
he did do stuff to queen bees
hallow escarp
yeah...... the rot from the inside disease is kinda...... a little fucked up.......
didnt he do it after splitting up from yharim or am i mixing something else up
cloud ibex
is it possible the devourer of gods manipulated draedon into becoming the stereo...
Nah Draedon had over 600 years to not develop a moral compass on his own
DoG had nothing to do with it
cloud ibex
didnt he do it after splitting up from yharim or am i mixing something else up
No pbg is the Thing that made Yharim fire him
He started on Clone after being fired I think
hallow escarp
oh youre right youre riiight..
cloud ibex
since he manipulated yharim into committing heinous acts
Also one thing to note is that how much of an effect DoG actually had on Yharim is unknown
He points out himself that DoG is a really fucking bad liar
It’s possible that DoG made him worse in the sense of for example neglecting the Dungeon to focus entirely on the Killing People part of the crusade, but brutalizing gods and their followers was always part of the plan
warm gull
#saveyharim2028
vagrant star
Random thought
If slime god became queen slime, does this mean they transitioned. As much as a genderless asides for a title blob of slime can do such.
cloud ibex
Iunno if I’d say they literally became QS as much as they just got stuck inside
If the proposed progression change where SG and Clone swap places go through she’d probably be more of a rogue paladin
vagrant star
If the proposed progression change where SG and Clone swap places go through she...
Oh, okay okay.
cloud ibex
Do note that sg used to be a person and I think it’s been mentioned that they were genderfluid before
They aren’t literally a slime that is also a god, they’re a person who controls slimes
long bloom
yeah they're genderfluid and use any pronouns
wanton pendant
It’s possible that DoG made him *worse* in the sense of for example neglecting t...
This is why I believe DoG was more like a yes man, Yharim was already considering (and doing) utterly depraved things for the crusade, DoG likely only ever approved and encouraged it. As Yharim's delusional, he justifies this as DoG driving him off the deep end, even though he was already in the trench.
mighty zenith
yeah they're genderfluid and use any pronouns
genderjelly
long bloom
true
cloud ibex
gendernonnewtonianfluid
vagrant star
This is why I believe DoG was more like a yes man, Yharim was already considerin...
Yesman DoG is really funny to think about ngl
Bro was legitimately sitting on Yharims shoulder like "you should dump those kids in lava, it's totally worth it."
wanton pendant
'13 year olds can totally go to war man, why are you so worried?'
limpid saddle
Evil Vizier DoG coiled up along the rafters of the throne room taking up 60% of the available space in the room while wearing a stupid-looking turban telling Yharim: "My lord, you NEED to kill more orphans & maybe think about letting me eat Yharon? Pretty please?"
wanton pendant
'You can't have Yharon, but there's a church in the city we're sieging, knock yourself out.'
pliant ruin
i think draedon is like
probably the person you'd have the single worst time manipulating
the only way to manipulate him would be getting him to believe that whatever it is you want him to do would be more productive and yield more interesting results than what you dont want him to do
and well
if its actually true then it's barely even manipulation you're just giving him good advice for his ends really (If you somehow know it and he dosen't, that is)
if it's not true then he'd probably be able to tell.
so like
i dont think
manipulating draedon is in the table really .
wanton pendant
'Are you sure you don't wanna know how many orphans you can crush per second?'
magic epoch
gaslighting draedon
pliant ruin
you'd have a easier time manipulating xeroc than you would draedon i think
and thats saying something because i doubt the 800 year old god whos like a literal wisened old monk would be very easy to manipulate
wanton pendant
'Psst, Xeroc, you could totally give people cancer and they'd never know!'
long bloom
we dunno
vast cosmos
damn
wanton pendant
I would assume from what we know, that being Yharim turned out very strong and he was very likely a slave to the gods, that he was chosen as they believed he would be easy to control while still being a powerful leader, since the plan was near certainly to have him as a puppet king.
They just underestimated how much he was able to mentally resist their control over him, as he disobeyed.
vast cosmos
yeah id want revenge too
pliant ruin
what makes him special
i think its not that he was special as much that he had qualities that were favoured by the people who wanted to crown him
If that makes sense
He wasn't like a chosen one by some legend
He probably would've just made a good puppet king
pliant ruin
I would assume from what we know, that being Yharim turned out very strong and h...
Yeah this really
vast cosmos
He probably would've just made a good puppet king
based on his rebellion i doubt it
pliant ruin
yeah in their eyes he would have
he had qualities that would've made him seem like one
vast cosmos
such as?
pliant ruin
¯_(ツ)_/¯
pliant ruin
He's strong as fuck and pretty charismatic yeah
wanton pendant
He was also likely executed to make an example, Yharon was only thrown in because they may have been worried we has going to hatch soon which would make it difficult to use him to ascend with.
pliant ruin
I fully believe they'd probably just go for someone else after executing Yharim yeah
wanton pendant
What's ten more years to a god?
pliant ruin
if . well. That dind't happen
vast cosmos
thats hell of a villain origin story
wanton pendant
Show plan B what happens if they say no, wait a few years for the egg to regenerate, profit.
long bloom
calamity if a time traveller moved a chair and they decided to not throw yharon's egg too
wanton pendant
Chances are Yharon would hatch before they got around to deciding on a backup. Otherwise there's little point in throwing him in.
long bloom
just put him in the freezer
icy veldt
Calamity if the gods killed Yharon with a shotgun instead of magma
wanton pendant
His one weakness... Bullets.
pliant ruin
You may have auric armor, be attuned with the domain of rebirth, be the god-killing warmonger, and have had 100+ years of fighting experience
however
i have a gun
vast cosmos
calamity if a time traveller moved a chair and they decided to not throw yharon'...
blank if narrative catalyst didnt happen