lore-discussion

[limpid saddle]

to each their own

[wanton pendant]

I saw skeletal Silva fan art once.

[limpid saddle]

If we can see the corpse in the cocoon then maybe but if its just big & green then im not really here for it

[wanton pendant]

I'd assume she's been cut to pieces.

[fading helm]

I think you can see her figure there

[wanton pendant]

Like Dracula.

[fading helm]

Wonder how tf she got out of the abbys before ngl

[split mortar]

Healed and then swam out

[long bloom]

burrowed through the wall

[fading helm]

Doesnt she know that just makes her take massive dmg

Smh

[wanton pendant]

Just Rod of Discord out, idiot.

[tropic oak]

guys silva only has like 15 armor surely she can tank this

[plucky juniper]

imagine if we mess it up and she ends up like this

[long bloom]

💀

[split mortar]

What was pokemon even trying to do with this design

[limpid saddle]

the whole point is that they're pieces of fossils poorly assembled & revived by a mad scientist

[wanton pendant]

It's a botched fossil recreation.

Based on old museums butchering the fossils.

[long bloom]

idc about why it looks like dogshit, it still looks like dogshit

[wanton pendant]

It's an ancient fish's head stuck on the tail of a dinosaur, also it's overpowered.

[limpid saddle]

i think dracovish is funny

[limpid saddle]

Fishious Rend

[plucky juniper]

man thinks this is dogwater

[split mortar]

I do

[wanton pendant]

Probably thinks Grimer was peak design.

These are the British Pokémon, you gotta defend your honour here.

[long bloom]

i don't care for grimer

[split mortar]

Ourple slime aint much

[plucky juniper]

peak slime god design

[split mortar]

Thats worse then i thought

[wanton pendant]

They used the Thames as I inspiration.

[tropic oak]

what

[wanton pendant]

What?

[leaden bridge]

clam

[wanton pendant]

Clam is being taken out back.

And replaced with new and improved clam.

[pliant ruin]

i love the gen 8 fossils theyre peak

theyre fucking stupid

(positive)

[wanton pendant]

Too bad Gen 9 had no fossils.

[mighty zenith]

dracozolt 🥰

genuinely my second favorite fossil

(behind carracosta)

[frosty charm]

when does the game take place again

like 18-19something

[leaden bridge]

around 1886

[wanton pendant]

It must be after 1886.

It is most likely the year 1887.

Otherwise you run into contradictions.

[plucky juniper]

Krakatoa's eruption that was heard around the world wasn't a very distant memory from then.

[tropic oak]

1887

[wanton pendant]

It can't be 1886, then Draedon is too young.
It can't be after 1887, as then Calamitas didn't serve long enough.

And if it was 1897, then Yharim used a toddler to fight.

[split mortar]

🔥

[pulsar ocean]

he'd do that

[wanton pendant]

The issue is more so how.

[frosty charm]

But I assume the technology is basically modern, with cell phones and the like

[plucky juniper]

I'm imagining Yharim holding a baby calamitas and using her as a weapon

[wanton pendant]

Like this.

[tropic oak]

azafurian football

[wanton pendant]

Yeah, cars and phones exist.

Along with the internet.

[split mortar]

The tech is kinda all over the place depending on where you are
Sometimes tech more advanced then irl
Sometimes industrial revolution just starting

[tropic oak]

chat what does the Voidsaught Devotee think of this

[split mortar]

Whar

[wanton pendant]

I mean, the place where we play is the most obliterated by war in the world, so it wouldn't be a shining beacon of modernity.

[mighty zenith]

"give me limbs"

[tropic oak]

true

[wanton pendant]

But the year is based on an in-universe calender, so not accurate to our one. We don't know when Jesus was born in Calamity.

[tropic oak]

oh you know what

speaking of jesus in calamity

ive come up with an excellent way to add the frost moon and santa canonically

instead of it being jesus’ birthday

its xerocs ascension date

all too easy

[wanton pendant]

Santa is built different. That's how he's here.

[visual kiln]

p

[wanton pendant]

Ka.

[pulsar ocean]

are people even aware of xeroc's existence

[wanton pendant]

Most aren't.

[tropic oak]

its christmas

[split mortar]

Nothing beyond “someone had to consume zeratros” probably
Not even draedon knows xeroc exists

[tropic oak]

quick come up with a canonical reason that the pumpkin moon may or may not exist

[wanton pendant]

Because the Irish are that cool.

[pulsar ocean]

why isnt the solar set the best armor in the game if its primordial light and primordial light is like the gun in rock paper scissors

[wanton pendant]

Because you can go even further beyond.

And the Solar Fragments are a copy.

[split mortar]

Because it isnt the gun in rock paper scissors
Its stronger then other sources yeah
But not beyond everything by a insurmountable margin
Chaos elementals use it as an example

Also we dunno what the other frags are made of

[wanton pendant]

Oh, also, here's the updated version of my chart from earlier. There's like one change, but it's been awhile and I'd like to have the latest up.

[split mortar]

Just read
Fire

[wanton pendant]

If there's anything missing tell me.

It's meant to be their motives and justifications for their actions, regardless of how reasonable they are.

[fading helm]

Do they even know about dragons and what happened to them? Yharim only seemed to know after yharon told him, unless you mean when yharim was doing the crusade

[wanton pendant]

I'd say most people knew dragons existed.

But not about auric souls, much of that would be lost or kept hidden by the gods.

Like, the draconic offshoots exist. Kinda proves that their ancestors were real.

[split mortar]

The “someone had to consume zeratros” was about the gods knowledge or the few who did know and werent gods

[wanton pendant]

So a lot of people are likely under the impression they were just some strong creatures that went extinct.

[split mortar]

Basically people who def knew someone had to eat the sun kfc

[fading helm]

I kind of have the vision that the deific era was like super regressed in terms of history keeping and technology itself tbh

With the exception of azafura

[wanton pendant]

Azafure.

[fading helm]

In any case doubt they would know about the dragon of light

Especifically

[wanton pendant]

Dragon of Primordial Light.

There may have been a Dragon of Light that was different.

But we only know about a tiny amount of dragons and gods.

Like, there were a bit under 3k of them, allegedly, on the high end.

[long bloom]

that's correct

[split mortar]

3K being the number of dragons there were that cei imagines for context

[wanton pendant]

And reasonably, it can be assumed the max amount of gods was equal to the dragon population -1, assuming Moon Lord didn't nuke any of them without their soul being taken by a mortal.

What?

[light linden]

wait crap

I accidentally switched discords

sorry continue as you were

[split mortar]

chat do slimes dissolve glass

[spring helm]

Maybe to obtain silica?

Probably not though, outside of like… severe nutrient deficiency or something

[supple storm]

blep blep bloop
when was Ilmeris founded and stuff?

[split mortar]

by otonilou the goddess of electricity so after the fovos invasion
dont think we have any clear dates but it is under half azafures age

[supple storm]

.w.

is there like a specific century?

[frosty charm]

is there any reason the dragonfolly/folly species has electric powers or is it just part of the species' quirks

[split mortar]

they evolved to use static charge offensively or something
its likely to get a bunch of changes at some point (sky boss and prehardmode) so i havent payed too much attention to its lore

[split mortar]

we dunno the century otonilou ascended so no dont think so
id guess the same century gods appeared but thats just a guess (late 1030s to 1099 iirc)

[supple storm]

dies

[frosty charm]

alr cool

[visual kiln]

how long do monarchs of ilmeris reign for

amidias is the 17th right

[frosty charm]

terraria/the heartlands is largely considered to be kinda a wasteland, right? a world long since abandoned, only scraps of life surviving (due to the crusades n shit)

like obviously not fallout wasteland or (cough) rain world wasteland level but things are generally not what they once were

[visual kiln]

not rlly

theres forests and normal biomes and stuff

just no major societies anymore

[frosty charm]

yeah thats what i mean

basically all major societies have been destroyed

[visual kiln]

oh ok

[frosty charm]

like most intelligent life has been wiped out, save for us, the npcs and the evil npcs

for the most part the heartlands have been forgotten

[supple storm]

okay so lore question, from my understanding Ilmeris was founded by Ontonilou and Tyrian. do we know anything about the latter one?

[frosty charm]

i do not think so no

we just know that they exist

[supple storm]

crying rn

[visual kiln]

tyrian’s dragon was the dragon of rivers right

[frosty charm]

what the FUCK is that name

i just realized

[robust osprey]

no they're ilmerian gods

which came after ilmeris was founded

[young socket]

no

[supple storm]

when was ilmeris founded then?

and by who?

[robust osprey]

me

yesterday

[supple storm]

be serious

[young socket]

ilmeris was founded by the gods, and then leaded by the kings. the sea always existed and was populated by tribes, though, which had a lot fighting between each other

[robust osprey]

what !!

[supple storm]

yeah this is what i thought, who exactly is tyrian tho?

[robust osprey]

fish man

[young socket]

itd be more accurate to call ilmeris the ilmeris kingdom, since the sea is called the ilmeran(? i think thats wat it was) sea

[robust osprey]

gods of oceans iirc

absorbed the auric soul of uuuuuhhh

[young socket]

god of seas

took the auric soul of rivers

i

[robust osprey]

auric soul of rivers is new to me

[young socket]

meant to reaply to your message

[supple storm]

thankies

[young socket]

the only thing we know about him was that he was pretty reclusive and didnt show himself publically much

[robust osprey]

then there's goddess of electricity Otinilous

jellyfish woman

both of them are one of the few humanoid gods too

[woeful karma]

maid dress fish man

[young socket]

this is true

fuck i dont have it saved i dont think

[supple storm]

yo based?!!?!?!??

[visual kiln]

unironic btw theres art of him in a maid dress

[supple storm]

yum

[young socket]

when his concept art was being made, mango made art of him in a maid dress, and replace the cannon arm with a duster

[visual kiln]

also u should infodump about ur chrysadia thingy 🥺

[young socket]

ill try to find it cuz it genuinely is funny

[robust osprey]

what chrysadia thingy

[supple storm]

but thats barel done .w.

[visual kiln]

weh valid

it has a few rlly good ideas rn tho still :3

[supple storm]

i was making derivative world building

:P

[robust osprey]

oh I see

[young socket]

found it

[visual kiln]

there were too few worldbuilding details in canon

[robust osprey]

ts shit so peak

[visual kiln]

she decided to fill in the gaps herself

[supple storm]

peak

[robust osprey]

god of seas more like god of gay

[woeful karma]

i have filled my yearly message quota in this channel i will now return to hibernation until sso in 2027 forces me to update the lore doc

[visual kiln]

based???

[robust osprey]

based!!!

[supple storm]

also yeah this, it pains me too much with such peak foundational ideas

[young socket]

im going to force you to update the doc now

:3

[visual kiln]

tee hee

idk why i said tee hee

[robust osprey]

draedon has 9000 new lines of dialogue gotta update lore doc

[woeful karma]

tee hee

WHAT

😔

[robust osprey]

get to work

[woeful karma]

to the mines

[visual kiln]

tee hee

[woeful karma]

[visual kiln]

YAYYYY

[dusk laurel]

this sounds like the speech of a demon of lies

[young socket]

remember when rebecca wrote in the lore doc that theres a jellyfish in the tundra and how its actually the god of electricity who was extremely benevolent

_ _

yeah.

[supple storm]

okay random question, when approximately was ilmeris incinerated?

[young socket]

youre right

it wasnt officially confirmed

but it was what someone wanted probably stip he shares a lot

[young socket]

around a decade ago no you do not get a date, you have to wait for sso for that

[visual kiln]

whyyyyy

[supple storm]

so assuming the current date is 1887, it'd be around 1877

[young socket]

because the lore writers are EVIL and not sharing dates on PURPOSE to make the lore more CONVOLUTED

[wanton pendant]

Ilmeris was most likely incinerated 12 years ago.

Not 10.

[supple storm]

so 1875 then

[wanton pendant]

In 1875.

Same year Draedon left, which is most likely the year Permafrost and Calamitas left, and Permafrost left because of Ilmeris.

By 1877, Calamitas, Permafrost and Draedon had all left Yharim's side.

Also, Calamitas was most likely born in 1858.

[supple storm]

honestly why even hide it when you can easily estimate the date just from this? idk bleh. i go now

[young socket]

idk

[robust osprey]

lore writters want you to learn maths

[pliant ruin]

Uhhh

Not quite

[wanton pendant]

They make you factor in that Calamitas' birthday is probably in the third quarter of the year.

[pliant ruin]

Society still exists at large

Think of the world after ww2
It's not like Humanity Died and Every Country Was Destroyed

[wanton pendant]

Super World War 2.

[pliant ruin]

But the amount of deaths there were and the massive impact on society at large still happened

It's not apocalyptic

People and civilizations still exist

[wanton pendant]

Genghis Khan but everywhere.

[supple storm]

goombos

when was yharim born?

[wanton pendant]

Over 130 years ago.

[supple storm]

okay how bout i reformat my question then.

How old was Yharim when the crusade started

[wanton pendant]

Major character ages.

[wanton pendant]

Late 20s to early 30s.

[supple storm]

-# why are there never any specifics dies

[wanton pendant]

We do know a specific age.

11.19.1227 is Draedon's birthdate.

I believe it's in the American format.

So the 19th of November, 1227.

Now I'm rethinking all the dates I've been calculating again why can't there be more specifics.

[visual kiln]

real

[peak acorn]

draedon the real unc

[visual kiln]

come up with ur own specifics

what is an unc

[wanton pendant]

Ultimate Night Custom.

[peak acorn]

uncle

old ahh

[wanton pendant]

Why are you scared?

[peak acorn]

I'm scared of his knees cracking when he stands

unc

[cloud ibex]

He’s like

[wanton pendant]

Like, it has to be 1887, right, otherwise Calamitas can't have spent enough time with Yharim based on dev statements. But if it's 1887, then why does Draedon say the Exo Mechs are the result of over 660 years of work? Is this just a minor oversight?

[cloud ibex]

The third oldest character we know of I think

The only people who have him beat are from the draconic age

Actually he’d probably be fourth I forgot about Silva

[supple storm]

i imagine its more a "everything i've done has built up to this" scenario here for draedon

[wanton pendant]

'The result of over six hundred sixty years of research and scientific advancement.'

[supple storm]

yeah like that

[wanton pendant]

That implies it's been more then 660 years. But if that's so Calamitas wouldn't have been with Yharim for as long as the devs imply she was.

As they imply she was at least 17 when she left.

But after 1887 there isn't enough time.

[pliant ruin]

I imagine the reason there aren't more specific dates and such is because really specific details like that tend to be relatively unimportant and also sometimes there can be alot of disagreements on them so ultimately it's just, something that gets left as "If everyone agrees on it and we have a specific idea for it cool, but if not then we don't really need to bother with it too much"

I'd imagine as much anyways given in msot projects ive worked on in terms of storytelling we did not care much abt super specific details and stuff and if they happened, cool, if not, /shrug

[supple storm]

dies

[wanton pendant]

The thing is we have gotten specific dates before.

We know the specific day the crusade started, for instance.

[pliant ruin]

Yeah which again

goes back to what i said

[wanton pendant]

'Crusade is widely considered to have begun on the date of 6.19.1781 with Yharon's rebirth'

[pliant ruin]

If they can think of something and they agree on it, cool

[young socket]

yea because that was talked about among the writers and agreed upon

[pliant ruin]

But if not

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[young socket]

but a writer cant just come in here and give us the answers if they havent been written

and if it has been written, youd need permission from the other lore writers to share it

[wanton pendant]

I know they have the birthdays hidden somewhere!

[pliant ruin]

There's more important things to prioritize over just giving really specific details or dates on things that realistically do not matter that much to build the narrative at large

[young socket]

and they all agree to not share important dates except when doing ingame information

[pliant ruin]

Alot of stories don't have that sort of thing to be honest

Undertale has year 20XX for when the war between humans and monsters happened

[cloud ibex]

Guys… gulp… it’s 20XX right now…..

[pliant ruin]

😨

[wanton pendant]

Mega Man's real!?

Wait, it could work if we assume Draedon is factoring in the time of his creator, who may or may not also be Draedon, but he doesn't know how many years that was, so he only knows it's over 660.

[tropic oak]

hi

[split mortar]

maybe ping a lore dev with a few questions about the timeline idk

[split mortar]

goodbye

[robust osprey]

chara is forcing me to kill you sorry

stabs you

[tropic oak]

what doing

[robust osprey]

I'm stabbing someone

[split mortar]

someone wondering about the timeline

[wanton pendant]

Last time a lore dev saw what I was saying they said we were 'obsessed'.

[split mortar]

ok but like
why stop asking

[wanton pendant]

I don't want to get executed.

[icy veldt]

Does that come from the Latin verb obsum, obesse, obfui?

[tropic oak]

“obsessed”. haha . yeah.

[wanton pendant]

'Late Middle English (in the sense ‘haunt, possess’, referring to an evil spirit): from Latin obsess- ‘besieged’, from the verb obsidere, from ob- ‘opposite’ + sedere ‘sit’. The current sense dates from the late 19th century.'

[split mortar]

why would you??

[wanton pendant]

For hounding them with the same question that isn't intended to be revealed to us yet.

[split mortar]

@manic coral would you execute him?

[robust osprey]

nefarious infected armor plating

[spare pier]

I would

[split mortar]

wtfrick

[wanton pendant]

See!

This is why I don't do that!

[split mortar]

can i see the execution

[wanton pendant]

No.

[split mortar]

if it happens

[spare pier]

It's going to be public

[split mortar]

yay!

[spare pier]

In #server-announcements

[wanton pendant]

Obviously the British want a public execution.

[robust osprey]

based reb

[split mortar]

the french are right there fym

[split mortar]

tru

[wanton pendant]

You're British, nerd.

[icy veldt]

Was a joke about the misspelling

[split mortar]

removing half your teeth

[wanton pendant]

Shhh, nobody will ever know.

[wanton pendant]

Someone's projecting.

[split mortar]

my teeth are not half out?

[icy veldt]

I'm removing a randomly-selected half of your skeleton

[split mortar]

peak

[icy veldt]

-50% magic damage

[wanton pendant]

Yeah, but you know what they say about British and teeth.

[wanton pendant]

Of course the British want to steal a skeleton.

[split mortar]

generalisation

make your hate more personal smh

step up your game

[icy veldt]

Bones have calcium. Milk has calcium. Therefore, milk can be made from bones

[wanton pendant]

Does this imply you could make Magic Milk?

[icy veldt]

YES

[wanton pendant]

You look funny.

[icy veldt]

Owned!!!

[split mortar]

you dont know how i look irl atleast put effort at being personal

[wanton pendant]

Look behind you.

[icy veldt]

Hey, that looks a bit like Providence!

[wanton pendant]

Cease respiration.

[split mortar]

i know you arent here cause my family would maul you to death

[wanton pendant]

Of course the British would maul people to death.

[icy veldt]

Huh?

[split mortar]

no i just have 5 younger siblings

[wanton pendant]

I could obliterate five children.

[icy veldt]

Yharim:

[split mortar]

they are feral

[icy veldt]

Only if they're religious

[wanton pendant]

You act as if I don't have experience.

[icy veldt]

Skeletron Prime:

[split mortar]

cause you dont

[wanton pendant]

Oh, I do. I very much do.

[split mortar]

you will become another statistic for knife crime graphs

[wanton pendant]

Of course the British are commiting knife crime.

[jaunty wraith]

People have compared azafure to britian

Does thag mean azafure has a stabbing issue?

[wanton pendant]

I've only heard it compared to Spain.

Yharim's empire was Britain, obviously, because they took over the world.

[real silo]

Catastrophe literally uses a sword

[wanton pendant]

Catastrophe had a job, so better than Britain.

[jaunty wraith]

Yharims british...

Okay now he must go, thats too far

[wanton pendant]

I agree.

To think some people here accuse me of being British, preposterous.

[icy veldt]

Yharim is the fantasy version of Charles XII of Sweden (Source: it came to me in a dream)

[wanton pendant]

Swedes aren't English, so not as evil.

But they do make spreadsheets and call them games.

[split mortar]

Making you play finnish arson simulator til you discover all the secrets

[wanton pendant]

Finnish Arson? That's called not freezing to death.

[robust osprey]

azafure is compared to Spain most likely

[brazen swallow]

finnish and anything remotely hot is like mixing water and oil

[split mortar]

Ive only seen spain pop up recently

[brazen swallow]

terrifying

[split mortar]

-# im on about noita

[wanton pendant]

People in 1480.

[jaunty wraith]

Nobody expects the azafure inquisition

[brazen swallow]

I meant it more in the way of finnish arson
(country so cold things can't be set on fire)

[wanton pendant]

Checks out.

[brazen swallow]

also I'm sorry I know basixally nothing about noita

[robust osprey]

the real question remains unanswered

[wanton pendant]

Who's Noita?

[robust osprey]

where is France in calamity

[brazen swallow]

a game

[split mortar]

A game

[brazen swallow]

it's the region outside azafure

[wanton pendant]

Do we dare seek an answer?

[brazen swallow]

(the underworld)

[robust osprey]

wait true

[split mortar]

Ive seen it be described as like
Terraria on every single drug at once

[wanton pendant]

WotG.

[robust osprey]

seems fun

[icy veldt]

French = demons. Confirmed 1,000,000,000%

[wanton pendant]

I mean, they created the British.

[split mortar]

From what i have seen of noita and wotg
No noita is more insane

[jaunty wraith]

What about america?

[wanton pendant]

Ilmeris.

They were free.

Then they all died, the end.

[brazen swallow]

lmfao

[jaunty wraith]

Did they have guns?

[wanton pendant]

Hell yeah.

[brazen swallow]

nameless is secretly ilmerian because in the GFB seed he shoots the player using a gun

[brazen swallow]

LMAOOO

[icy veldt]

I think we should have more pre-modern culture representation. I want ancient Persians, Hellenes, Egyptians, Goths, Norsemen, maybe even some Mongols

[jaunty wraith]

The lihzards are new Zealand

Always forgoten

[wanton pendant]

Yharim is Holy Roman.

[icy veldt]

Frankish or German?

[wanton pendant]

Saxon maybe.

[icy veldt]

Low German, then

[wanton pendant]

Of course you want more Goths.

[split mortar]

Noita protag vs yharim

[icy veldt]

I used to think that the Y in Yharim was a separate vowel, not a consonant combined with the H, so I thought it was pronounced "ee-HA-rim" and not "YAH-rim"

[wanton pendant]

Oh, also aren't the Sky People from Chrysadia gonna be Ancient Greek?

[jaunty wraith]

WHAT THE FUCK IS A KILOMETER

• Amidas probably

[icy veldt]

I figured from the spelling, tbh

Also the endonym being almost an Ancient Greek first-declension noun, with its singular and plural forms

[wanton pendant]

Well that's one lost culture.

The rest are... uh... lost?

[icy veldt]

Probably some Goths among them

Goths among us

[split mortar]

Gorthus

[wanton pendant]

Also, since the ones who love justifying the means are present, I have a chart on exactly that.

[icy veldt]

Huh?

Ones who love justifying the means?

[wanton pendant]

Just tell me what you think.

[robust osprey]

I think Scal being forced to kill her stepdad is important to add

[wanton pendant]

I mean, she didn't, so I'd argue that it's not a crime she commited, since she specifically didn't do that.

[robust osprey]

okay but she jailed him for years

[icy veldt]

That chart doesn't look limited to crimes that the people there committed

[robust osprey]

thats counts as crime right

[wanton pendant]

It's more what they did and why.
Calamitas did that specifically to save Permafrost's life.

So not one of her war crimes.

It's her attempting to not do a war crime.

This chart isn't for good deeds, it's for crimes.

[robust osprey]

fair

[wanton pendant]

And also the reason they commited said crimes.

[icy veldt]

Lore question: what happens if you perform the ascension ritual with just a regular soul, not an Auric soul? Like you just try to ascend using the soul of, I dunno, some random vanilla town NPC

[wanton pendant]

You get their soul properties I guess?

Though that assumes it works with non-auric souls.

[light linden]

didn't they make the molotov?

[icy veldt]

Providence performing the ascension ritual a second time with a domestic cat

[light linden]

y'know

[split mortar]

You get like
Mind fuckery
And thats it
I think

[icy veldt]

Darn

[light linden]

I wonder what yharim would think of rockwell from ark

[icy veldt]

Permanent drug trip

[wanton pendant]

It'd help you Polterghastmax.

[light linden]

he'd prolly try to rip his damned head off

[wanton pendant]

I wanna know about how long it would take for Yharim to start a war in Tamriel.

[light linden]

can't say I blame him either

[light linden]

depends on which era

[split mortar]

The main benefit of auric souls being the domain and strong af soul boosting you
Normal souls wouldnt do that
So you just kinda get the downsides only

[wanton pendant]

Skyrim era. :)

[light linden]

hell if I know

[brazen swallow]

this seems accurate to me

[icy veldt]

No physical changes? Huh

[light linden]

I doubt he'd like alduin much

[split mortar]

No domain to fuck up the body so i doubt much physical change would happen

[wanton pendant]

'Did you say enslave the mortal races!?'

Slams fist on table, killing Alduin.

[light linden]

it's less so that and more so the whole

world destruction

[wanton pendant]

I think Yharim might get a little tunnel visioned.

[icy veldt]

Yharim... not approving of world destruction?

[split mortar]

Yharim doesnt want to end the entire world only the religious part

[wanton pendant]

'Another hand touches the beacon!'
'Tell me where you are so I can personally return it to you.'
Sends teenager to do it instead, like a boss.

[robust osprey]

killing Xeroc would also mean kill the thing protecting terraria from moonlord2

therefore world ends

he included

[wanton pendant]

That's more so an oversight than an intentional part of the plan.

[robust osprey]

true yharim is too stupid to realize that

[distant smelt]

Good thing he’s also not strong enough to fight xeroc

That might end
Not so great

[light linden]

he's for genocide, NOT universal eradication

weird place to draw the line but still

[icy veldt]

Also true for physical chains vs emotional/psychological chains

[brazen swallow]

yharim only wants to kill all gods

I wonder if he'd change his ways if he knew what the consequences of that would be

[icy veldt]

And their worshippers

Don't forget

[brazen swallow]

maybe killing xeroc would actually destroy the world and maaaybe yharim would see that

[icy veldt]

He'd change to become even worse, because that's the only kind of thing he regrets

[brazen swallow]

or he'd go full providence and consider everything sinful

[brazen swallow]

yeah

[sinful adder]

he wouldn't. He would rather destroy the world

[brazen swallow]

he was providence all along

[light linden]

bit of a random thing

y'all think we'll ever get a full on abyss boss?

cause lore wise I can't think of who'd be there

short of merman braelor or something

[wanton pendant]

I'd assume Yharim would more so refuse to believe killing the gods would be a bad thing.

[light linden]

eh

[wanton pendant]

If you told him killing Xeroc would doom everyone, he'd ignore you. He's certain that all gods are a bad thing.

[light linden]

I feel like if the consequences were bad enough he'd realize it

[wanton pendant]

The idea of a god being needed for the world to survive is utterly incompatible with his world view.

He'd simply refuse to believe something like that.

[distant smelt]

He’d probably kill you for that honestly

[wanton pendant]

That too.

[light linden]

e.g. if he killed a random god and suddenly all the oceans became toxic

[wanton pendant]

He'd blame the god.

Yharim has an incredibly narrow worldview and stance on morality. He literally can't consider that killing gods is a bad idea. They are all evil in his eyes, no matter what.

[icy veldt]

Um, no he wouldn't. Refusing to learn is like his entire thing

[distant smelt]

“I mean i killed one god and created the crimson/corruption so obviously this must be the same situation”

[wanton pendant]

Yeah he'd claim that.

[light linden]

or hell

if he killed xeroc and boom

sun goes out

[wanton pendant]

He'd blame Xeroc.

Claim it was some kind of last ditch move to get back at him. Because gods MUST be evil in his eyes.

[distant smelt]

Yharim could be presented with inarguable evidence that a god is good and has done nothing wrong and burn their city to the ground

[wanton pendant]

He just can't accept that a god could be anything other than evil.

Except Astrum Deus, as Astrum Deus isn't a god.

[leaden bridge]

Just tell draedon heyyyyyyyyyyyy dude i know we haven't talked in a couple months but like can you mine out a nearby solar system and recreate the sun real quick it doesn't need to be anything special just get the job done okay? ly ❤️ ❤️ 🙏

[distant smelt]

He hasn’t mastered space travel unfortunately

[wanton pendant]

Draedon would do that for fun.

[distant smelt]

Yet

[wheat walrus]

pookie draedon

[wanton pendant]

What?

And why do you have hair?

[brazen swallow]

all he would ask in exchange would be to fight the super exo ultra mechs

[wanton pendant]

'Terrarian, I have created a new challenge for you. I call it Kaizo. Good luck, as without such a frivolous concept my calculations say that you shall not succeed.'

[leaden bridge]

well draedon did you consider i can try again thanks to forces beyond our plane of existence

[wanton pendant]

'Terrarian, stop breaking this 'fourth wall' you keep talking about. We are outdoors. There are now walls.'

[tropic oak]

[leaden bridge]

well you see draedon the wall is the camera

It's broken because i am acknowledging the lack of wall between us and the viewer

[wanton pendant]

'Which one, I have 500,000 cameras watching your every move at any given time.'

[leaden bridge]

We actually destroyed like 250000 of those btw you just didn't notice

[tropic oak]

im doing your mother on all cameras

[leaden bridge]

Which is like fair where the fuck do you dit 250000 screens? We looked into that shit draedon all of them have imax

You don't have space for 500k imax screens

Don't lie to us draedon

[wanton pendant]

'The cameras are very small.'

[leaden bridge]

Your labs had like shitty monochrome displays dude not a single lcd let alone an oled

[wanton pendant]

'Combined, they form large pictures.'

'With this, I'm able to stream to my Twitch.tv audience.'

[leaden bridge]

Ah that must be why that one probe was stuck going back and forth for like 3 hours before going left you had Twitch Plays Draedon Probe setup

also btw should've given us a better fucking screen for the codebreaker dude

you have like infinite energy it's not fucking hard to make a decent 8k display dude

like that shit has less res than a smart watch and missing all the colors it's just blue draedon

Couldn't even be hacker green or anything

[wanton pendant]

'Hey, I didn't make the Codebreaker, you did.'

'Any shoddy craftsmanship is your own fault.'

[leaden bridge]

You gave us the blueprints moron we don't know how to make an 8k display but you SHOULD and SHOULD have sent that over because we DO know to follow BLUEPRINTS

[distant smelt]

New headcanon the codebreaker was supposed to have a super advanced display system but the terrarian only followed half of the installation protocols

[leaden bridge]

Even Yharim could make their own board if they had the design in front of them and that guy probably can't cook

If you think about it literally none of the endgame bosses can cook except like yharon and draedon who has never done it but easily could

calamitas 100% burns everything so permafrost just kinda had to do it for her the whole time and she's had nothing but carbonized rabbit the past like 7 years

This is all to say cal probably bony as hell

[distant smelt]

Calamitas has to be able to cook
She’s been by herself for that much time, past a certain point you just have to learn
Also who’s to say she exclusively cooks with brimstone magic?

[leaden bridge]

she burns shit anyway

also you'd be surprised at the amount of things people can do for a decade and miserably fail to get any better at

[distant smelt]

I dont think she’s that pathetic though. Also not even calamitas could survive that long with no real sustenance

[leaden bridge]

plenty edible wild things don't really need cooking and you can survive on relatively little and like even burnt shit still has nutritional value

Anyways part of the reason she can't cook for shit is that she barely has functional nostrils like most azafurians

[wanton pendant]

I like to think Catastrophe taught her how to cook.

And that's a hurtful stereotype.

[distant smelt]

I just think it’s unreasonable to assume that she would instantly burn everything

[leaden bridge]

Dude they live in magma brimstone sulphur boiling hot place

there's no way you can use your sense of smell properly after living there your whole life

[wanton pendant]

Just because she lives in hell doesn't mean she has no sense of smell.

Siesta counters it duh.

[leaden bridge]

like your nose would literally just implode after a while from all the sulphur smell

[distant smelt]

Maybe an average person couldn’t but i imagine azafurians probably have a much higher tolerance for that

If it sucked that much all the time no one would live there

[leaden bridge]

We'd find it believable azafurians have a higher tolerance but they were still producing absurd amounts of fumes and live in hell magma cavern

It'd still make sense they're worse at smelling than your average normal human joe

[wanton pendant]

You're forgetting Calamitas was POOR and likely lived away from the wealthier inner circle which would also be more polluted, she probably lived on the outskirts which would be less developed.

[sturdy cave]

Braelor isn't dead in the lore anymore?

[jaunty wraith]

And since its gell they ain't got showers nor can touch grass

[wanton pendant]

No.

But he's still gay.

[jaunty wraith]

Azafure is really an empire of gamers

[leaden bridge]

we don't know any of these things outside of her being like poor

[wanton pendant]

It's a city-state.

[leaden bridge]

Also you can be poor and in a city

Lots of poor people in cities

[distant smelt]

If there was no way to clean themselves no one would live there

[sturdy cave]

What alignment is he?

[wanton pendant]

Gay. Good.

[jaunty wraith]

Say that to detroit

[distant smelt]

Who wants to live in detroit

[wanton pendant]

Detroit Man?

[leaden bridge]

Assuming there's actually legitimately no way to access proper water there are ways of dry showering

[wanton pendant]

They could totally get water from the caves.

It'd be the good stuff too.

[leaden bridge]

Although smell is again probably not a big a concern

[pliant ruin]

He's alive, albeit stuck in the distortion

You'll be able to save him though

Will be a quest npc and all

[jaunty wraith]

Can we date him?

[leaden bridge]

no

[distant smelt]

Anyway calamitas can probably cook edible food

[wanton pendant]

With the power of being gay friendship guns a big portal.

[distant smelt]

Not necessarily good but edible

[wanton pendant]

I think Cataclysm taught her.

[jaunty wraith]

Imagine calamitas learns how to cook pasta, boils water and then get ptsd flashbacks from what she did

[leaden bridge]

Anyways azafurians probably had standard issue weird as hell metallic breather masks

[wanton pendant]

She drinks olive oil.

[leaden bridge]

At least one azafurian flower must smell like pleasant comparatively so they just did the plague doctor thing

[wanton pendant]

Oh, just remembered.

Calamitas states that she can smell.

[distant smelt]

What do fireblossoms smell like?

[wanton pendant]

Fire?

[leaden bridge]

those probably bad

[jaunty wraith]

Probably like a burning plant

[distant smelt]

Hmm
I’ll take 3

[leaden bridge]

they're native to the entirety of hell they're probably just intense burning smell

[jaunty wraith]

Probably tastes like your least spicy Indian food

[distant smelt]

Tbf in calamity lore “the underworld’s hellish reputation” is fairly recent

[leaden bridge]

Yeah she has a nose we are not saying she can't smell at all we're saying her sense of smell is impaired by living in sulphur pit hell in her early life

[wanton pendant]

Then why would she like smelling flowers if she struggles to smell?

[distant smelt]

Maybe azafurians just cant smell sulphur
That’d be really funny

[wanton pendant]

She loves the smell of sulphur.

[leaden bridge]

Because flowers have more intense smells

So she Can smell them in the first place

[distant smelt]

Shhhhhhhhhhhh

[leaden bridge]

If you could barely taste things and found a food that had a very strong taste you'd probably like it because it has taste in the first place

[leaden bridge]

That's her being a freak wdk that shit smells absolutely terrible

[distant smelt]

You dont see the vision/j

[wanton pendant]

Wow, now you're saying the poor, homeless, mentally scarred woman has poor taste?

[leaden bridge]

yeah

We mean being poor means you usually can't even really Afford to have Taste

[wanton pendant]

Sorry if I offended your majesty.

[leaden bridge]

we're not particularly wealthy either that's how we know this

A very good analogy to use here is playing roblox or mobile game slop vs literally anything else

sometimes you don't have means specially as a kid so you just grow to like shit that is just legitimately kinda bad because there's nothing else

[wanton pendant]

Calamitas' life is like only having Roblox to play. She got the... uh... full experience.

[wheat walrus]

Yarr

[distant smelt]

Roblox can be good though
Not rn but like

[leaden bridge]

you know what we mean

[distant smelt]

Yeah

Based pronouns btw

[wheat walrus]

(i chose to pirate hello fucking neighbor of all things 🥀)

[distant smelt]

Ew

[leaden bridge]

Well Most kids don't know how to Pirate

[wheat walrus]

Yes kid me was ew

I'm still stupid

[leaden bridge]

Pirating is also limited if say your internet is bad because you're poor or your pc is bad because you're poor

[wheat walrus]

But not that stupid

True

[leaden bridge]

not talking about ourselves at all haha! Nothing to do with us!

[wheat walrus]

are you shore

[wanton pendant]

Hey guys I would advise against admitting to piracy in a public channel.

[leaden bridge]

it's okay they can't get us

wouldn't even be the first time in this server anyways

[wheat walrus]

Piracy is righteous and holy, pirates are pure of heart and soul, and their skies unclouded

[distant smelt]

Yar har

[leaden bridge]

this is true

[wheat walrus]

🔥

[distant smelt]

Anyway this is satire mr/ms/mx nsa agent

[wanton pendant]

Because piracy killed my grandma, ok?

[leaden bridge]

no nsa agents here! Nope! Zero of them! Certainly not us! 😅

[wanton pendant]

NSA? British.

[distant smelt]

I live in the southern usa
I could not be less british

[wheat walrus]

Did it kill your grandma because an nsa agent got you or are you an nsa agent and you made that up to convince us before killing our grandmas

[wanton pendant]

I was the one pirating...
Free Minecraft No Virus.
"No, don't!"
"Pirama!?!"

[leaden bridge]

Anyways as we were saying we just think it's more interesting if azafurians are impaired in the smelling thing because of their living conditions rather than just magically being protected from it like isn't the world much more interesting when things have flaws

[wheat walrus]

Alr then

[distant smelt]

No he’s the one who left his government behind in his overwhelming intensity

[wanton pendant]

Hey, some of this land is in the south.

[distant smelt]

Not magical just over time people would probably adapt

[wheat walrus]

Wrong character gng

💔

[distant smelt]

Hey dont doxx me like this

[wanton pendant]

This you?

[distant smelt]

AAAAAAAAAAAAAAA

[supple storm]

wtf, map in lore discussion

[distant smelt]

DELETE THAT

[supple storm]

wild

[leaden bridge]

They've only been there 1800 years

That's not enough time for much proper adaptation

[wanton pendant]

1887, you'd have figured out how to smell by then.

They literally turned grey and grew horns.

[leaden bridge]

They'd still definitely be impaired from the constant fumes unless they use protection all the time for it

[supple storm]

do i want to know the context here?

[wanton pendant]

It's enough time.

[leaden bridge]

zzzzzz boring

[wanton pendant]

There is an argument about Azafurians lacking a sense of smell due to hell.

Did the industrial revolution render every British man, woman and child incapable of smell?

I doubt it.

[supple storm]

I-

[leaden bridge]

the phenotype changes might've been simply crossbreeding with some originary hell species instead of actual adaptation

The industrial revolution didn't have people living in hell lava caverns full of sulphur

The conditions in azafure r wayyy harsher

[wanton pendant]

Then they'd be a crossbreed, not a human.

[wanton pendant]

Someone slept in history class.

[distant smelt]

So they’d probably be even more pressured to adapt

[leaden bridge]

Did you know? Calamity is inspired by real life! In 1589 "Yar Him" and "Caled A. mitas" created the first underground city in the bowels of hell!

[wanton pendant]

Draycob Donatello was their lead excavator.

[distant smelt]

Along with their assistant Perry Mafrost

[leaden bridge]

That's not how adaptation works though,.,.,., e

[wanton pendant]

Perseus Murphy Frost.

It's magic evolution.

[distant smelt]

Stop being funnier than me

[wanton pendant]

I can't help it.

[distant smelt]

😔

[wanton pendant]

Yhorrick Aran was also a high ranking member of the expedition.

[distant smelt]

But basically yeah if you started living in hell do you think you’d just stay the same over the generations?

[leaden bridge]

it's only been 1800 years

[wanton pendant]

It's like how all Australians have mustaches. It's an adaption.

[wanton pendant]

Magic evolution.

[leaden bridge]

that's enough time to like get skin color changes and like slightly stronger lungs not to develop a new nose

[wanton pendant]

They have horns.

That's not something you develop in that few generations.

[distant smelt]

A new nose seems incredibly minor by comparison actually

[leaden bridge]

yeah wdr care about that in this discussion

[wanton pendant]

That's like, what, 60 generations?

[leaden bridge]

That's nothing

[wanton pendant]

Less, actually.

[fiery meadow]

That’d be cool actually

Makes sense

[wanton pendant]

If a thousand years back is like, 32 generations I think?

[distant smelt]

If they grew horns and got gray skin in that time is it really so farfetched and impossible to assume that their smell would have changed?

[fiery meadow]

Calamity world building when it needs an explanation beyond “it was magic” or “it was the dragons / gods / world soul??”

[leaden bridge]

Not really but we dont care

[wanton pendant]

Calamitas probably feels like she's always cold on the surface.

[fiery meadow]

Go my mana balls

[distant smelt]

Understood have a nice day

[leaden bridge]

because we think it's more interesting than them just magically having the exact same sense of smell as people who don't bathe in sulphur gas 24/7

[wanton pendant]

It's ridiculous to participate in a discussion if your stance is that you don't care about the topic.

[brazen swallow]

it was secretly gaster

[fiery meadow]

Real

[magic epoch]

like,,, her skin??? wtfrick

[distant smelt]

The argument isnt that they have the same smell it’s that it’s more suited to hell
Thats what ive been arguing anyway

[pulsar ocean]

How didnt Silva hit any like islands and shit on the way down the sea how did she hit the abyss' rock bottom

[wanton pendant]

She's adapted to the high temperature underground.

[brazen swallow]

like people from hot climates when they travel to a colder one

[wanton pendant]

It'd stand to reason that outside of there everything would feel very cold.

[magic epoch]

don't touch her to find out imo

[wanton pendant]

It'd be like an Australian visiting Canada.

[leaden bridge]

Well because we don't care if it's technically realistically possible under calamity's unwritten and unstated evolutionary rules but about how cool it'd be if they had traits differing from normal people based on a incredible present part of their environment that just Makes Sense

[magic epoch]

that would be rude

[brazen swallow]

plot convonience

[distant smelt]

Calamitas’ robes are so absurdly insulated that if anyone else put them on they’d pass out in minutes

They’re also enchanted

[wanton pendant]

Ever heard of Pachinko?

[brazen swallow]

she is constantly using brimstone fire to keep herself warm

[leaden bridge]

Yeah see u guys get it

[pulsar ocean]

Like the Japanese gambling that involves metal balls?

[wanton pendant]

You get it.

[leaden bridge]

we dig the azafurians are naturally lowkey nearly cold blooded

[pulsar ocean]

Tuff

[leaden bridge]

See it's just the difference right there

[distant smelt]

“Sweating intensely how do you wear this!?”
“What do you mean, it’s pleasantly cool?”

[wanton pendant]

Obviously she wouldn't be cold blooded, otherwise she'd pass out going anywhere near the Tundra.

[leaden bridge]

Adaptation that just makes it so everything works the exact same: booooring
Adaptation that means azafurians are different and need their own accommodations: awesome

[wanton pendant]

But someone who lived in literal hell and adapted to the climate would view everything else as pretty cold.

[leaden bridge]

She can warm herself up anyway

As mentioned before her robe could be enchanted with a spell that keeps her warm to whatever level she needs

[distant smelt]

I just really want calamitas’ robes to arbitrarily be kind of dangerous

That’s my whole motive

[leaden bridge]

Awesome

[wanton pendant]

The dangerous part is that if you damage it she'll be furious. That was her life savings.

[distant smelt]

Where’s calamitas’ underground monster gold farm
I’ll find it eventually.

[glacial rampart]

i just found a quote from this server

saved in my personal server

"i had a dream where marvel made a live action Calamity mod movie
and dog said "atleast i dont devour stars like the other guy""

[sinful adder]

Wow

[long bloom]

peak

[brazen swallow]

absolute cinema

[simple forge]

“Oh my god, what are you, some sort of ravager?”

[real silo]

Ravager.......!!

Assemble

[frosty charm]

Do we have any insight on Statis as a person

His personality or what have you

[long bloom]

ninja so probably honorable

and traumatized bc the rest of his clan got yharimed

[split mortar]

We prob will once cei writes currents but thats like
Post sso

[random mulch]

have this slime god sketch

[sinful adder]

Oh? Redesign? Is this official?

[split mortar]

No its a sketch from orios

Their take on slime god

[hoary berry]

god of goop

[cloud ibex]

god of The Sludge

[split mortar]

What inspired you to become goupert funkerdinckle

[cloud ibex]

funny

[split mortar]

Valid

[random mulch]

no i just want to do a take on slime god that isn't just the orb

i also just don't see many other slime god redesigns

[mighty zenith]

neat

patapon vibes kinda

[random mulch]

it's just a silhouette for now

[long bloom]

world of goo pilled

[sinful adder]

I was thinking it reminded me of that

[random mulch]

a different sketch from yesterday with shading

[cloud ibex]

the peeper

[random mulch]

wanted to make slime god look more "special" but still keep it kinda goofy

[sinful adder]

I have an idea for this

So like. I think a remnant of the original human shape should be there

With the center ball being a ribcage warped into a sphere, and elongated but flimsy legs and arms hanging from it

[random mulch]

i actually expressly kept them very non-human

[sinful adder]

Then a head with one big eye attached where it should be, but not actually stuck in place on the end of the spine

Well. I'm not suggesting to make it look remotely human

More like a mass of slime with a distorted skeleton worn as armor

[random mulch]

from the description, it still feels a bit too "humanoid"

[long bloom]

yeah not a fan

i like the goo tentacles

[random mulch]

really wanted to make a design that strays far from a human form cause gods that change heavily from their presumed original form are my favorite

(which is why agnus is my favorite design for a god)

[ivory sundial]

chat who is Noxus?

[random mulch]

big important thing in the distortion and DoG's real boss

we don't know much about it

[ivory sundial]

he was in wrath of the gods

[long bloom]

it's the creature

[sinful adder]

Rotate it so that the limbs are hanging from the ribcage and the head is falling off

[ivory sundial]

i think

[long bloom]

no

[long bloom]

❌

[ivory sundial]

yes

[long bloom]

no wotg

not canon

[ivory sundial]

oh

a

w

[sinful adder]

WOTG is fake and not real calamity

[long bloom]

^

[sinful adder]

It's inspired by old ideas calamity had planned many years ago before they rewrote everything, but that's all

[split mortar]

The noxus that was in wotg was based on old outdated plans and also no addon is canon

[long bloom]

current lore noxus is a distortion entity that made ceaseless void and probably dog

[ivory sundial]

even infernum?????

[long bloom]

no content addons are canon

[split mortar]

Thats not even official

[long bloom]

none of them

[ivory sundial]

sad

[split mortar]

Neither is wotg

[ivory sundial]

who is bereft vassal then

[long bloom]

an oc

[split mortar]

Infernum only

[long bloom]

they made it up

[ivory sundial]

oh

is the LORDE cannon

[split mortar]

No its a meme

Yharim is canon but he aint the lorde

[long bloom]

gfb isn't canon

[ivory sundial]

bruh

[sinful adder]

Actually wait do this but even more hunched over

[ivory sundial]

Is muramasa canon?

[long bloom]

debatable

assuming you mean murasama

[ivory sundial]

red one

[split mortar]

Muramasa is
The murasama the red one is a blatant reference and so isnt

[random mulch]

still don't really feel it

[long bloom]

dolopeeper

[ivory sundial]

ok chat when will we fight yharim

in the lore

[long bloom]

after scal and exos

[random mulch]

in lore, after exo mechs & calamitas

[split mortar]

After scal and exos

[long bloom]

snails

[sinful adder]

Alright fair enough, that's basically what I meant. Although the limbs would be even less recognizable, like the tentacles from the original one

[ivory sundial]

oh

[split mortar]

[ivory sundial]

#calamityplsupdate

[sinful adder]

Basically just the original one but put a ribcage on it

[long bloom]

he won't be added to the game for several years

[split mortar]

Yharim is like literally their last priority to add

[long bloom]

definitely over 5

[split mortar]

Rn

[ivory sundial]

oh

whats the first priority?

[random mulch]

those are "tentacles" but they're basically meant to be 3 arms

[split mortar]

Sunken sea overhaul

[long bloom]

making everything else not shit

[ivory sundial]

second?

[split mortar]

The second part of the sunken sea overhaul

[random mulch]

the entire rest of the mod is a higher priority than yharim

[ivory sundial]

third.?

[long bloom]

they're gonna overhaul every biome and add the distortion before doing yharim

[long bloom]

stop

[split mortar]

Acid rain rework or brim crags overhaul

[sinful adder]

Imagine this is facing you head on and the two long limbs are the legs. I was thinking like that

[ivory sundial]

ooooooooh

anyways id like abyss to be reworked

[long bloom]

there's no complete update roadmap

[long bloom]

eventually

[ivory sundial]

abyss pylon

trust

[long bloom]

[ivory sundial]

new 3 fish npcs

[random mulch]

there sorta is but it's only the biggest updates, when there are a lot of other updates between

[ivory sundial]

anyways

anyone wanna discuss the lore of anarhita

[long bloom]

sure

what about her

[ivory sundial]

anarhita is a goonbait to degenerates trust

[split mortar]

I forgor why she is so weak for being a full elemental and not weakened
Was brimmy just cracked

[long bloom]

[split mortar]

[ivory sundial]

https://tenor.com/view/xafer-catmeme-meme-cat-soldiarcat-gif-4196924155144969562

[long bloom]

can we stop calling literally everything gooner please

it's just a humanoid body shape

[ivory sundial]

ok then

anarhita is ez bos

[random mulch]

anahita can be excused because the design is based on a siren

[split mortar]

Well yeah its like half way through the game id hope she isnt too difficult for people to beat

[sinful adder]

Definitely used to be, given fabsol

[ivory sundial]

add a harder mode than infernum pls

[split mortar]

That kinda already exists

Master death

[ivory sundial]

why not master infenrum

[long bloom]

it sux

[split mortar]

Master infernum is literally just stat bloat

[long bloom]

and bugs

[ivory sundial]

wdym stat bloat

[random mulch]

the other elementals on the other hand

[long bloom]

stat bloat

it's in the name

[ivory sundial]

ohhh

[split mortar]

The stats are just
Bloated higher numbers

[ivory sundial]

stat bloons

ok

[split mortar]

Cant wait for the obelisk for sand

[random mulch]

the obelisk

[long bloom]

pondering the triangle

[ivory sundial]

wait

[split mortar]

The obelisk

[ivory sundial]

can anyone tell me

who is xeroc

[random mulch]

the first god

[long bloom]

the first god

[random mulch]

get snailed

[long bloom]

killing myself

[ivory sundial]

whos the second god 🤓

[random mulch]

idunno

[long bloom]

we dunno

[ivory sundial]

noxus????

[ivory sundial]

a

[split mortar]

The first god, likely guardian of the world

[long bloom]

noxus isn't a god

[split mortar]

Noxus aint a god

Its older then the gods

[long bloom]

just space creature

[ivory sundial]

noxus = vilain, xeroc = hero???????

[long bloom]

sorta

[ivory sundial]

anyways

why does providence want kil us

[long bloom]

calamity characters aren't black and white

[sinful adder]

Sorry but can you see what I mean with a severely distorted spine here art guy

[random mulch]

she wants to kill everyone

everything

[long bloom]

^

[ivory sundial]

w h y

[split mortar]

She believes life shouldnt exist and that death is a mercy or something

[long bloom]

you should read her lore

[ivory sundial]

im too lazy

[sinful adder]

Hates existence

[long bloom]

there's a google doc with all the lore

in the pins

[ivory sundial]

drop the link

[split mortar]

In the pins

[ivory sundial]

fine

[sinful adder]

Stop being lazy

[ivory sundial]

omg

i got finality

questione

who is drageon

[long bloom]

draedon?

[ivory sundial]

yes

drageon

[long bloom]

yharim's former scientist

[cloud ibex]

robot guy

[ivory sundial]

does he hate us

[random mulch]

600 year old robot scientist man

no

[long bloom]

quite the opposite

he's fascinated by you

[split mortar]

He prob lacks the capacity to hate

[cloud ibex]

he doesn't have much of a capability to hate anything

[ivory sundial]

why bro sends ares,thanatos and others

[split mortar]

Science

[long bloom]

to test you

[split mortar]

To test you and the mechs

[cloud ibex]

he thought it'd be interesting to see how you'd do

[ivory sundial]

wait a sec

we destroy the mechs

[long bloom]

yeah

[ivory sundial]

when we win the fight

right

[long bloom]

refights aren't canon

[split mortar]

He is aware you winning would result in that