lore-discussion

[frosty charm]

prob keratin

[wanton pendant]

Yeah but then they wouldn't bleed which isn't as metal.

And they'd probably need to get horn cuts.

[heavy zenith]

Who here loves farming Ark Keratin💪

[icy veldt]

Horn cuts would be cute

[wanton pendant]

What?

Oh.

I was asking about this ages ago.

[icy veldt]

Calamitas going to the Stylist to get her horns trimmed

[wanton pendant]

Do you think horns had some kind of cultural importance?

[frosty charm]

maybe

[heavy zenith]

Nezuko and calamitas ain't so different now that I think about it

[wanton pendant]

I'd have to dig up my second message in this server to find all the questions I had.

[split mortar]

Almost certainly
Humans like to make things that dont matter, matter

[wanton pendant]

For better or worse...

[icy veldt]

Cal's horns are cute, so they matter to me 🥺

[brazen swallow]

xeroc will barely understand this one

he can't possibly remember doing it

[wanton pendant]

Do you think Yharim colonized anyone?

[wheat walrus]

doubt

just

obliterated

the one good trait he has is that he doesn't wanna directly take one's freedom

he'll be manipulative, he'll destroy those he hates

[cloud ibex]

Only indirectly

[wheat walrus]

but not take their freedom like that

[wheat walrus]

yea

since

killing and manipulating is taking freedom away in forms

but

[wanton pendant]

Like Calamitas very much had her freedom taken, but she totally wasn't a slave, legally.

[wheat walrus]

yea

[wanton pendant]

His men could leave whenever they wanted, on pain of death.

[wheat walrus]

either manipulation, or

you're free to do this and im to do this

-kills you brutally-

[wanton pendant]

He wouldn't have someone in physical chains.

Chains of any other nature are fair game.

[wheat walrus]

it's either emotional chains or beats you to death

[wanton pendant]

I'd argue not wanting to die is an emotional chain.

[icy veldt]

Fear of death is an emotion 🤔

[wheat walrus]

dw youll be free soon :3

[split mortar]

Remove yharims spinal fluid

[wanton pendant]

He replaced that with testosterone too.

[wheat walrus]

remove melon gun's melon fluid

[wheat walrus]

auric testo

[pliant ruin]

chains you say .

[split mortar]

What the fuck

[wanton pendant]

What?

[wheat walrus]

arkveld monster hunter

[brazen swallow]

there's more auric testo than blood in yharim's bloodstream

[wheat walrus]

also removing melon gun's gun powder

[brazen swallow]

or should I say auricstream

[icy veldt]

Auric piss stream

[brazen swallow]

real

[wanton pendant]

So I'm wondering, Calamitas is supposed to be scared of Yharim, right, petrified of the guy. The thing is to my knowledge apart from him generally being strong and convincing her to do horrible things I'm not entirely sure there's a specific reason for her to be THAT scared. I feel like there was another event that we don't yet know about that would cement her as being terrified of him, rather then just deeply resenful.

[wheat walrus]

im not sure if he'd petrify her anymore

[brazen swallow]

we don't know how yharim acts when he's mad I think
or what he's capable of specifically

[icy veldt]

Aside from causing her emotional trauma, she might also be worried that he'll kill her just as he ordered her to kill Perm

[wheat walrus]

but he would trigger a reaction for sure

after all

we did because our actions made her think of him

[wanton pendant]

Like, that's true, but she should be well aware that she's strong herself. It's not like if he were to show up she'd be guaranteed dead.

[wheat walrus]

and that reaction was going as far as to try and eradicate us

[wanton pendant]

Your message is dated tomorrow.

[wheat walrus]

im so tuff

[brazen swallow]

what is even that

[wanton pendant]

Anyway, my general theory was that Calamitas tried to say no to killing Permafrost, and the result of that is why she's so scared of him. But that's just a theory.

[wheat walrus]

sukuna

[wanton pendant]

I'm not falling for that.

[wheat walrus]

but it is...

[brazen swallow]

I am so clueless

[wheat walrus]

jjk character

[brazen swallow]

oh I see

talking about stuff and suddenly seeing references or mentions of media I know little about is interesting

I'm really specialized

[wanton pendant]

Is that Goku?

[wheat walrus]

pensive

[frosty charm]

can he beat goku? (no.)

[wheat walrus]

yea no

lol

[brazen swallow]

imaginary technique
nuclear bomb

[icy veldt]

Me when I portray Yharim as a seething soyjak and myself as the magnificent Cobson

[icy veldt]

oh no

[wanton pendant]

If Goku was in Calamity.

Luckily, he's too tall to get into her cave.

[icy veldt]

...Can she eat him?

[wanton pendant]

Survival mechanism.

[brazen swallow]

lmfao

[wanton pendant]

I mean, he's not a human, so, uh...

[brazen swallow]

I love that calamitas plush
she looks so innocent and happy

[icy veldt]

Unrealistic

[wanton pendant]

Unlike mainline Calamitas.

Crushed by guilt and miserable.

[icy veldt]

Give her a pet cat, that'll cheer her up!

[wanton pendant]

I'm probably the only person in my country to have both plushes. Is there a lore reason for this?

[wanton pendant]

Some fresh meat...

[icy veldt]

Noooooo!!!

[split mortar]

What the FUCK

[light linden]

making melon gun more british (bad)

[brazen swallow]

in the other hand yharon looks so grumpy and dissatisfied

[split mortar]

Drinking tea tomorrow

[icy veldt]

Also unrealistic

Yharon should be happy at seeing all of the death and destruction that Yharim caused

[brazen swallow]

replace it with synthetic gunpowder
the melon of theseus

[wanton pendant]

Not having tea for a whole day? Can you survive that?

[brazen swallow]

real

[icy veldt]

Replace melon gun's gunpowder with cocaine

[brazen swallow]

[wanton pendant]

It's 00:08 in Britain.

[brazen swallow]

evil superman "my favorite...".jpg

[wanton pendant]

Ultraman.

[split mortar]

Fym an entire day i go sleep and then have it

[wanton pendant]

But that would be today.

You said you'd have tea tomorrow.

And when you wake up, it should still be today.

Tomorrow is 24 hours away.

[split mortar]

My brain doesnt care for your interpretation

[wanton pendant]

That's what the British said when they created divorce.

[brazen swallow]

in my time zone it's 5 hours away

[wanton pendant]

Well, we're not in your timezone, nerd.

[young socket]

wild sentence for me to come back to in lore discussion

[wanton pendant]

Am I wrong?

[young socket]

no

[brazen swallow]

I've been destroyed like the moonlord death animation

[brazen swallow]

lmfao

[wheat walrus]

zucchi

[brazen swallow]

that dounds italian 😨

[split mortar]

Throwing the sphere at someone

[wheat walrus]

indovina cosa

[split mortar]

waterwraithgaming it is

[brazen swallow]

jumpscare

[icy veldt]

Me when I'm walking with Calamitas to her new house, and she starts acting a bit jumpy because she senses Profaned magic

Me when I show Calamitas the inside of her new house and she looks at her new pet cat with a confused expression on her face

Calamitas when I tell her "That used to be the Profaned Goddess herself, but now she's a mere housepet"

Me when Calamitas tells me "That's a cat. She's not your pet, you are her pet. Also, wtf. You're weird"

[brazen swallow]

not the avatar of emptiness big sphere attack

[wanton pendant]

Fool, spheres are not my weakness.

[brazen swallow]

real

[split mortar]

Idfk what you are referencing and would like to not know

[wanton pendant]

Why would she be jumpy she could suplex that dumb butterfly.

Why does Discord not acknowledge suplex as a word.

[icy veldt]

Not a butterfly anymore

[split mortar]

Whats with you and cat providence

[wanton pendant]

She could pound that cat into dust.

Tenderising it, and then barbecuing it.

[icy veldt]

It just makes sense to me. Provy is manipulative, worming her way into the minds of the weak-willed. Similarly, humans don't have pet cats, cats have pet humans. So it absolutely makes sense that Provy would take on a catlike appearance as one of her tactics for convincing people to serve her, before going back to rockterfly when she's done

[wanton pendant]

Cats don't brainwash people. She should become a mindflaying abomination.

Like she is in Infernum.

[icy veldt]

Mmmmmm, they do, actually

[wanton pendant]

Take your cat to a vet.

[brazen swallow]

calamity wrath of the gods

[sinful adder]

It's hard to call it brainwashing, but it is some kind of manipulation.

[icy veldt]

Subtle brainwashing 😳

[brazen swallow]

gaslighting

[young socket]

theory

xetoc stoner

evidence?

loves stones

sounds like leon (who is totslly a leon despite hid dismissions)

yhats my evidence

[icy veldt]

What is that spelling

[frosty charm]

do the dragons/their offshoots (old duke, folly, wyrm etc) have any explicit weaknesses beyond the ritual super killing them

[young socket]

beinmg stronger than em

im nto sure wat to say they arent like

pokemon

where they all tike 2x dmg from ice type attacks

[frosty charm]

cough elemental weaknesses

[young socket]

yea but u grouped all together

and

their elemental weaknes is based

on their environments n such

like

pigron is resistant to cold debuffs

yharon is weak to cold debuffs

[frosty charm]

byea i was thinking more like. vampires are weak to sun and superman has kryptonite so idk if i need to write around anything like that

[light linden]

what type would yharon be?

dragon/fire?

dragon/flying?

[frosty charm]

dragon/fire

his whole thing is fire and being a dragon

[light linden]

true but uh

pokemon has also made some very questionable typing choices

e.g. the flower pokemon isn't grass type

[frosty charm]

also described a phoenix which is associated with fire

[young socket]

floreges?

[frosty charm]

neither of our names are pokemon

[pliant ruin]

thankfully we're not pokemon

[light linden]

I

[pliant ruin]

i think the idea iwth florgess is like

ohhh well the flower isnt part of the fairy so its not grass type

vro thats so dumb

[young socket]

florgess

flo

gers

flogges

i forgot how its spelt

[light linden]

florges

[young socket]

thanks

florrges

[light linden]

also

still don't get why delibird exists

[young socket]

abilkity

vital sprit

hidden ability

insomnia

this man does not get sleep

[pliant ruin]

i think delibird exists because they wanted to make a santa claus bird pokemon

whatever those words tsuki said are not in the bible

[young socket]

fuck you

[frosty charm]

i was sharing my plan for a cool and emotional climax and my friend rattles on about how "my oc has boundless feats so they could neg diff noxus" oh my god i dont careeee

im making him die earlier just for that

[young socket]

my cool roginal oc can kill your cool orignal oc!!!!!!

[distant smelt]

QUICK NAME ONE OF THE FOUR VANILLA CLASSES

[frosty charm]

mage

[young socket]

mleee

[distant smelt]

Thanks im indecisive

[frosty charm]

ha haha ha ha

[distant smelt]

I refuse to write rogue

[young socket]

ujust wrote it

[distant smelt]

Death

[young socket]

ui fucking iidot

[distant smelt]

Aw man

Off to restore my honor

[frosty charm]

I'm trying to think of a backstory for protag 3, who comes from an alternate timeline maybe I'm honestly unsure

Anyone got any ideas

Actually

I'm scrapping that

:steamhappy:

[distant smelt]

Alright honor restored

[sinful adder]

Alternate timeline? Eugh...

Oh wait it's scrapped that's good

[frosty charm]

yea they're just gonna come from a tribe across the planet

[sinful adder]

That's good, that works well

[alpine jetty]

my oc is pink yharim

[distant smelt]

I think i wanna spare anahita and the leviathan
Not that she was truly killable in the first place or that she even really deserves to be spared
I just think they’re neat

[wanton pendant]

Found Team Aqua.

[distant smelt]

Wait no

[frosty charm]

my oc is purple yharim. they are boundless and neg diff ur oc

[distant smelt]

My new oc is magenta yharim and they could erase your oc in 37 picoseconds

[frosty charm]

my new new oc is black yharim who consumes all of the yharims to become omega rainbow yharim

[distant smelt]

I just made anti-yharim who has the special super hax technique of negating all yharims

[frosty charm]

uhhh

pink xeroc

first two pages of chapter 1 are done yipee hooray woww

[brazen swallow]

this is like waiting for your mana to recharge

[brazen swallow]

"nooo!!! you're supposed to obey me!"
the 6 color yharims:

[distant smelt]

I showered

[brazen swallow]

showering??
a calamity player?????????????

(jokes aside, I see, makes sense)

[frosty charm]

idea i had for the climax w/yharim and noxus is that each 'phase' emphasizes a certain color

fight with yharim is shades of red, noxus is purple, then once yharim dies everything fades and becomes duller

not literally but the descriptions imply it

[real silo]

ts okarun vs evil eye

[frosty charm]

what

[fleet wedge]

Great job, you cooked
Now I'm curious what would you write about the modded fragments though

[real silo]

I don't remember anything about thorium

Unfortunately

[icy veldt]

Uhhh, it has atomic number 90

[real silo]

fascinating

[long bloom]

it's better than uranium at producing nuclear power

[wanton pendant]

So, if Terraria's sun isn't a normal sun, would Superman be nerfed if he was there?

[real silo]

Superman is a plant?

[cloud ibex]

probably yeah

[wanton pendant]

And if all the stars are mana, then there are no regular suns for him to get strength from. Superman would struggle in Calamity.

[split mortar]

Some iterations of superman get a power boost from a yellow stars light or something iirc

[wanton pendant]

That's all iterations. Unless there's some obscure one.

[distant smelt]

Yeah thats like the main thing
Kryptonians dont have powers until they get fueled by a yellow sun, usually earth’s

[wanton pendant]

And since Terraria has a magic sun, and all the stars are made of mana, he's screwed.

[cloud ibex]

Snyderman gets it from the earth’s gravity I think

But I don’t like to acknowledge him as Superman

[lavish turtle]

Just eat the sun

If terrarian can pick them up off the ground its prolly fine

[wanton pendant]

Uh, he got his power from the sun too.

[split mortar]

Wait how high is terrarias gravity?

[wanton pendant]

In gameplay, twice earths.

But in the lore... uh...

[cloud ibex]

Did he

[wanton pendant]

Because when you factor how fast a day is, uh...

[cloud ibex]

I thought there was a whole Thing about his powers possibly not working when the big fuck off space beam thing was increasing the planet’s gravity towards the end of the movie

[cloud ibex]

Presumably just as fast as a day on earth

[wanton pendant]

I didn't watch the movie, but I saw yesterday a screenshot from it where they explicitly say he gets power from the sun, like every other version.

[wanton pendant]

I know, but in gameplay it's 24 minutes.

[cloud ibex]

Would be really weird if days lasting 24 minutes was a thing that just never gets mentioned or elaborated upon ever

[split mortar]

Still 24 hours no? The time just runs at 60 times faster so the player doesnt become an old person by the time of eoc i thought

[wanton pendant]

And so the fall speed would being twice ours, but then you factor the time scale, not gravity is super slow.

I know it's a gameplay thing. I'm saying things like that aren't accurate to the in-universe versions. So time is faster and gravity is stronger for gameplay reasons.

So if the Terrarian falls at 37.5 tiles per second, but a second in game is one minute, that means they are falling at a speed of 0.625 tiles per second. I think it's safe to say that isn't accurate to the reality.

[wanton pendant]

Theory: The Moon has some kind of anti-primordial light properties and somehow can actively make the world worse. It's somewhat kept in check by the light of the sun, but when the light of the sun can't reach it, such as during a Lunar Eclipse, the world gets more dangerous. This could also justify why Xeroc never simply finished off Moon Lord after becoming a god, the moon somehow repels them.

[long bloom]

very interesting

[wanton pendant]

'Cause I was thinking 'Why doesn't Xeroc kill Moon Lord after becoming a god, he seems like exactly the kind of threat they should be dealing with' so the obvious answer is the moon prevents this, somehow. And similarly, explains why Blood Moons are so dangerous, the protective light of the sun can't reach the moon, so it makes stuff worse. Moon's haunted.

[random mulch]

noxus' final plan is to steal the moon

[long bloom]

🔥

[wanton pendant]

Clearly, Noxus is inside the moon, along with the entire Distortion.

[random mulch]

the dragons thought the moonlord was simply sealed inside the moon,
in reality he just kinda got to hang out with noxus in the distortion for a while

chugging cosmilite or whatever it is they do in there

[long bloom]

scrumptious

[icy veldt]

Is the moon made of cheese?

[wheat walrus]

@pliant ruin explain your findings on the topic

[pliant ruin]

yes

[wheat walrus]

🔥

[icy veldt]

Just like in real life, then

Yummy!

[wanton pendant]

Found Wallace's account.

[cedar folio]

are yharon’s children canon in the lore currently?

[wanton pendant]

How do you mean?

He has no mentioned children.

In any version of the lore to my memory.

[cedar folio]

i thought akato was his kid no?

[wanton pendant]

Who?

[cedar folio]

the pet he drops

[split mortar]

Aint that a dedicated item and thus not canon

[wanton pendant]

That's not canon.

[cedar folio]

ah right didnt know, sorry

[split mortar]

Yeah its a patreon item
Not canon

[cedar folio]

forgot abt that ._.

sorry for the inconvenience

[split mortar]

What inconvenience whar

[long bloom]

ur good
just for clarification bc i'm already typing it: dedicated content and blatant references aren't canon, as well as crossover content and the seasonal moons

[wanton pendant]

Ok, after looking, there apparently were 'sons of Yharon' from the dragon kindle staff, but that has long since been retconned.

[cedar folio]

oh right that

[wanton pendant]

And two dedicated items involving a 'son of Yharon'.

[cedar folio]

i understand why the seasonal moons arent canon but idk smth abt that feels weird

[wanton pendant]

The second 'son' isn't a dedicated item, but is instead a McDonalds reference.

[cedar folio]

santa isnt canon to calamity,,,,

[wanton pendant]

So safe to say neither son is canon.

[cedar folio]

okie

[wanton pendant]

Not that it matters a whole lot.

[cedar folio]

yea

[wanton pendant]

Sons of Yharon have been through a lot by the looks of things.

[split mortar]

That does not look like a organic creature

[long bloom]

damn

[wanton pendant]

Puberty hit him hard I guess?

[mighty zenith]

edgelord teen phase

[latent bolt]

fatten the son of yharon up please

give him actual muscle definition

[split mortar]

The guys basically just bone

[light linden]

I do wonder how auric souls and auric ore are related on an energy level

I've been wondering if auric ore is from the world soul, could it be theoretically used to make a new auric soul?

I doubt it'd be easily done

[split mortar]

I doubt it since that could entail yharon could bring back another age of auric dragons slowly which
Goes against a big theme of the story im pretty sure

[light linden]

I mean

it does but I doubt even yharon could do it alone

that seems like something draedon would try to work on

also yharim does talk about the return of the age of the dragons

[long bloom]

yeah what did he mean by that

[light linden]

if given the chance I'd imagine he would do anything to make another auric soul

[split mortar]

I just presumed it means put yharon in charge of the world
But thats quite a bit shaky
Idk

[light linden]

yeah idt that's yharim's goal

personally I'm still of the opinion that at least some of the godly essence could be turned into something like an auric soul

at least for xeroc and silva since they perfectly ascended

I don't think all the energy of an auric soul could just vanish like that

[wanton pendant]

The age of dragons and gods is over. The age of men has begun.

[wheat walrus]

The age of melon gun and lea channel is over. The age of stone phone has begun.

[light linden]

I feel like yharim would at the very least try to filter all the essences forming the hallow, crimson, and corruption

[wheat walrus]

making this my new status

[light linden]

I doubt tryna turn the godly essence into something like an auric soul would go poorly while it's all mixed like that

sounds like the uh

[split mortar]

Wtfrick

[light linden]

oh god what is the name of those things

[long bloom]

pilk

[light linden]

the cluster gems from steven universe

[wanton pendant]

Clem.

[icy veldt]

Macaroni and chocolate, with a mug of hot cheese

[light linden]

clem clem

[icy veldt]

Clemitas

[wanton pendant]

Who hurt you?

[icy veldt]

The god of dogma

[wanton pendant]

Time for a crusade I guess.

[icy veldt]

Yharim came back home from the Aerie and said "I'm not killing my cool new dragon friend! Look at this awesome dish that he taught me how to make!" and the two got sent directly into Hell's magma because that dish was macaroni and chocolate

[wanton pendant]

Forget the genocide, racism, grooming, terrorism, treachery and so on, that's the worst thing he's done.

[wheat walrus]

fabsol lore

[wanton pendant]

Thank you Red Miku.

[split mortar]

Miku is red neru

[wanton pendant]

That's Yellow Miku.

[wheat walrus]

what are you yapping about melon

[frosty charm]

miku is b lue mik

[split mortar]

Brain became a slime and im fighting it via thoughts
Goodbye lore chat

[wanton pendant]

Miku is Blue Miku.

[wanton pendant]

So you're saying you Return To Slime?

[wheat walrus]

dang

[split mortar]

No im going to play rlcraft
Goodbye lore chat

[wanton pendant]

There's a colonization joke in there somewhere.

[light linden]

I do kinda wonder what exotic resonance is

Is it radiation?

Condensed magic?

[long bloom]

doesn't he literally tell you

[light linden]

Supercharged Otonilou essence?

Ok I should specify

The stable version we have

[wanton pendant]

Miracle Matter is the stuff we stabilize.

Which is just, uh, melted Exo Prisms.

[long bloom]

• random bullshit

[wanton pendant]

That's what makes it stable.

[light linden]

I uh

Isn't exotic resonance supposed to be stuff the prisms produce?

[wanton pendant]

Yeah it's literally infinite electricity.

[wheat walrus]

*random bullshit that is cool

[split mortar]

Exotic resonance is what causes sea prisms and exo prisms create energy endlessly

iirc

[light linden]

Ik

But I'm wondering what it specifically is

[wanton pendant]

Otonilou was top tier for inventing infinite energy.

[long bloom]

just exo prisms, not sea prisms

[pliant ruin]

i mean dosen't draedon literally explain it

[split mortar]

Then the fuck how sea prisms make energy

[long bloom]

carving sea prisms makes them emit exotic resonance

[wanton pendant]

Draedon just made it infinite faster.

[long bloom]

otonilou magic

[wanton pendant]

They're blessed.

[split mortar]

fucking how

[wanton pendant]

Science.

[long bloom]

he tells you

[pliant ruin]

Exo Prisms emit a self-sustaining resonance of particles that is unlike any other phenomena I have observed. I dubbed this Exotic Resonance

Like

Guys

He literally says what it is

calamity fans cant read

[long bloom]

guh

[wanton pendant]

I can read and I get persecuted for it every day here.

[split mortar]

I werent asking what exo resonance was

[wanton pendant]

Why: A god said so.
How: God shenanigans.

[pliant ruin]

Exotic Resonance is the Self-Sustaining Resonace of Particles that is found only in Exo Prisms and thus is not a thing Sea Prisms do

[split mortar]

I wouldnt say making a new property (exotic resonance) is just amplifying the sea prisms properties

[pliant ruin]

Draedon specifically refers to the thing the Exo Prisms do as Exotic Resonance

[long bloom]

it is tho

[pliant ruin]

they're called Exotic Resonance not Sea Prism Resonance

[wanton pendant]

Presumably it's a side effect of however Draedon is over clocking the Prisms.

[long bloom]

exotic resonance is just sea prism electricity amplified by microscopic electronic circuits carved into it

[wheat walrus]

the indefinite mechanism comes from sea prisms

The Ilmeran crystals that you know as "Sea Prisms" are self-illuminating and provide a weak electric charge indefinitely, even when tapped by circuitry. Etching the crystals with conduction pathways at the molecular level and providing an initial energy impulse, not unlike igniting a newborn star, transforms them into a facsimile of the Exo Prisms you are familiar with.

Exo Prisms emit a self-sustaining resonance of particles that is unlike any other phenomena I have observed. I dubbed this Exotic Resonance, and it is the breakthrough that the rest of exotechnology is named for. Exotic resonance remains present no matter how much energy is drawn from it, amplifying the intrinsic properties of the Sea Prisms far beyond my expectations. The sheer abundance of energy produced via exotic resonance allows a sufficient quantity of Exo Prisms to power any device, no matter the size or complexity.

[wanton pendant]

Infinite faster.

[long bloom]

✅

[wheat walrus]

they provide a weak but indefinite charge and are self-illuminating, which is effectively limitless energy

exo-prisms are enhanced, and i assume exotic resonance is basically an enhanced version of whichever process the sea prisms use for their indefinite charge

[wanton pendant]

He uses Sea Prisms for his RGB lights.

[long bloom]

true

[young socket]

i love how everyone here is forgetting the "breaks up matter" part of exotic resonance

[wheat walrus]

is it relevant to which one of the 2 the limitless energy mechanism came from

The particles contained within Exotic Resonance are capable of breaking down nearby matter when exposed to enough external energy. You have already experienced this phenomenon whilst fighting against my machines. The power surges from the ongoing battle caused some of the Exo Prisms within to actuate, melting down some of the internal components into an unstable slurry of this so-called Miracle Matter. The altered resonance enhanced their attacks with a prismatic blight that disintegrates anything, organic or otherwise.

for reference

uhh

[wanton pendant]

It melts into even stronger stuff Exo Prims are just weird.

[wheat walrus]

yes

exotic resonance can break down matter and meld it back, creating miracle matter

[young socket]

miracle blight must fucking hurt

[wanton pendant]

It'd probably feel like your flesh is turning necrotic.

[wheat walrus]

ionizing radiation but prolly worse and much faster acting

[wanton pendant]

The easier part to explain is why it exists narratively; to parallel Calamitas having a similarly inexplicable source of power.

[vast cosmos]

whos silva

[wanton pendant]

Goddess of Life.

[vast cosmos]

Oh

Does Yharim kill her too

[wanton pendant]

No.

She can't die.

She's also the Nature Elemental.

[vast cosmos]

... that, uh, makes sense

im watching a lore video right now

[cloud ibex]

He did as well as he could

[wanton pendant]

Lore videos are at high risk of being outdated or erronous.

The fact that you're asking us rather then the video explaining it is a good sign it might not be that great.

[distant smelt]

out of curiosity, when was the video made

[vast cosmos]

I am. 7 minutes in

[distant smelt]

oof

[vast cosmos]

a month ago

[distant smelt]

oh

[vast cosmos]

out of like an hour

[distant smelt]

oh that one

never actually watched it but i have seen it

[vast cosmos]

is it any good

[distant smelt]

wouldn't know

[mighty zenith]

its quite good

the comments help clear up misinfo

[vast cosmos]

Okay good

hes at the draconic era i assume silva becomes more relevant later?

[wanton pendant]

Silva did do something then.

She got thrown into the abyss.

She got out.

Then Yharim threw her back in.

[distant smelt]

she also kicked out anahita/ the water elemental

[vast cosmos]

is anahita evil orr like

[distant smelt]

only so far as any other elemental is

[cloud ibex]

Well she’s kind of a bastard on account of being an elemental

[distant smelt]

so like not great but i wouldn't go so far as evil

[wanton pendant]

She wants to flood the earth.

Which is named Terraria.

[vast cosmos]

team aqua would love her

[distant smelt]

second time this joke has been made recently btw

[vast cosmos]

😭

[wanton pendant]

The last time was by me.

[distant smelt]

about me

[wanton pendant]

Exactly.

[vast cosmos]

Brimstone Elemental was responsible for Azafure getting destroyed, what about the other elementals?

[wanton pendant]

Earth Elemental is the Sand Elemental. Air Elemental is the Cloud Elemental.

[distant smelt]

afaik they haven't really done much

[wanton pendant]

You know the others by now.

[split mortar]

Air and sand just kinda exist
Anahita been moved around a bunch
Silva is more relevant

[distant smelt]

like brimmy was really the only one to fuck major shit up

[wanton pendant]

Only one of them is chill.

And she's in the abyss.

[vast cosmos]

Silva?

Silva

[wanton pendant]

Yes.

[distant smelt]

because yharim is a bitch ass motherfucker

[wanton pendant]

He threw my elemental into the ocean!

[vast cosmos]

I don't get Yharim's motives

[distant smelt]

kill gods

[cloud ibex]

kill all gods

[distant smelt]

that is it

[vast cosmos]

Some gods are bad and therefore all are bad

[wanton pendant]

He's a fanatic.

[distant smelt]

you get it

[cloud ibex]

then kill anyone who ever thought a god was chill

[wanton pendant]

He's not meant to make sense. He's irrational.

[cloud ibex]

that's the gist of it

[vast cosmos]

ahuh

[vast cosmos]

is that what Skeletron Prime is about?

[distant smelt]

what

[vast cosmos]

I dunno

[wanton pendant]

Civilian muncher.

[vast cosmos]

Yeah close enough

[wanton pendant]

His morals are contradictory, his motive questionable, his methods abhorrent. Yharim is not a good guy.

[distant smelt]

the mechs are just yharims most delulu soldiers

given sick ass lasers

[fading helm]

On the topic of elementals, we know that to kill one you need to destroy their element, but does this extend only to terraria planet or also outer space? For example astrum deus should count as Nature

Oh dang the topic was left behind

[cloud ibex]

Yes

[distant smelt]

astrum deus is just astrum deus

[vast cosmos]

My goat

[wanton pendant]

Good question, we don't know.

[cloud ibex]

Prime is the souls of his dedicated civilian torching squad

[distant smelt]

he's not even truly related to the astral infection

[wanton pendant]

He's an Astrum Deus infected with the infection.

[fading helm]

Pretty sure their diet consists of that

[wanton pendant]

No they eat dead stars so they don't become the infection.

[fading helm]

Oh yeah

[vast cosmos]

the terrarian is also a bad person but this is just a vanilla thing

[fading helm]

Wonder how a mana diet works

[wanton pendant]

It goes straight to the bones.

[distant smelt]

the terrarian afaik literally has no grander motive other than arbitrarily getting stronger

[wanton pendant]

And in Vanilla Terrarian kills Cthulhu who was being resurrected by an evil cult.

[distant smelt]

so like idk
make an oc to project onto like the rest of us

[vast cosmos]

Still not a good person

[wanton pendant]

Literally saved the world.

[fading helm]

Ehhh i mean it depends on how you see the lizhard temple

[vast cosmos]

lih

[fading helm]

Apart from that its all on self defense pretty much

And animals

[cloud ibex]

In vanilla the Terrarian barely has lore because vanilla barely has lore

[distant smelt]

^

[vast cosmos]

I'm already inserting other ocs into Terraria

[distant smelt]

ah perfect

[cloud ibex]

Wow same you so real for that

[vast cosmos]

the only terraria original is called Evil Johnman

[wanton pendant]

Hey don't you have to be 13 to use Discord?

[vast cosmos]

evil johnman is a closeted trans woman

[vast cosmos]

and this is relevant how?

im 16

[distant smelt]

let her out

[pliant ruin]

loreous

[distant smelt]

so true

[pliant ruin]

hello my fellow #lorers

its me

jane calamity mod

[distant smelt]

holy shit

[cloud ibex]

You are cheese

[vast cosmos]

no shes a multiplayer character and another character is canonically a chaser (we are the brightest minds of our generation)

[pliant ruin]

thats me. true

[dusk laurel]

chesed

[wanton pendant]

Hello Janithy Calamitous Modsworth.

[vast cosmos]

hi

[distant smelt]

👁‍🗨 👁‍🗨

[vast cosmos]

what the fuck is that emoji

[icy veldt]

Wtf is happening

[wanton pendant]

What the hell are you even talking about?

[distant smelt]

idek anymore

[vast cosmos]

me neither

[wanton pendant]

It was your idea!

[distant smelt]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[vast cosmos]

its also generally my idea to fight most bosses with my friends and then we end up dying

is the devourer of gods a god?

[pliant ruin]

nah

[wanton pendant]

No.

[pliant ruin]

he does devour them though

[vast cosmos]

Huh

[pliant ruin]

If he was a god Yharim would never work with him

[vast cosmos]

How'd he get that strong

[wanton pendant]

He ate gods.

[pliant ruin]

How'd you get that strong

or yharim

or supreme calamitas

or like most of the insanely strong bosses and characters that aren't gods

[wanton pendant]

Calamitas was doping Brimstone magic.

[vast cosmos]

fair enough

[wanton pendant]

Yharim replaced his blood with testosterone.

[vast cosmos]

i remember dog has some fishing rod that says "the devourer of cods was once an eater of shoals" or something

[icy veldt]

And the Terrarian does meth

[wanton pendant]

That's a fishing rod.

[wanton pendant]

Finally, some lore I can get behind.

[pliant ruin]

Devourer of Gods is just fucked up alien worm from another dimension that has a severe superiority complex

[vast cosmos]

how do you even define a god

What makes something a god

[wanton pendant]

Someone who ascends with an auric soul.

[pliant ruin]

In the context of calamity, someone who absorbed an auric soul and ascended

[wanton pendant]

No other definition.

[vast cosmos]

gotcha

[wanton pendant]

Nothing else qualifies.

No matter if it is mistaken for one or insists otherwise.

[icy veldt]

Which makes Astrum Deus a misnomer, as well as incorrect Latin

[wanton pendant]

As some people are quick to point out.

[pliant ruin]

I'd believe the word "God" might've been coined prior in the world of calamity

[icy veldt]

Huh?

No way

Ohhhh wait

[vast cosmos]

are most bosses gods

[wanton pendant]

No.

[cloud ibex]

Some are

[wanton pendant]

Only, like, three. And one is a zombie.

[pliant ruin]

But much like how "Gay" is a term nobody uses for Happy anymore and only uses for Homosexual the word God would've become so widely spread as Person Who Ascended With An Auric Soul that basically nobody would use it for other meanings

[vast cosmos]

May i ask which three

[pliant ruin]

Providence, Slime God, Ravager, Arguably Evil2

[wanton pendant]

Slime God/Queen Slime, Providence, Ravager.

[pliant ruin]

Evil2 don't really show right now though

[icy veldt]

I thought you said "prior to the world of calamity" implying that the word "god" existed before the Calamity mod

[pliant ruin]

Because the bosses haven't gotten their due tier change and rework yet

[cloud ibex]

SG, providence, ravager, evil2s might count depending on how you look at it

[wanton pendant]

No Calamity made up the word.

[vast cosmos]

It didn't

[wanton pendant]

Evil 2 are god corpses.

Ravager is zombie god.

Not God of Zombies.

[distant smelt]

i love lore channel
we know our shit decently well but good luck stumbling into a convo actually talking about it
horrible example right now becuase we are surprisingly on track but still

[pliant ruin]

I'd say Evil2 kind of counts in the same way ravager does tbh, albeit its arguable because they're amalgamations of different gods with a single "main" god at their core over ravager whos just. a single guy

[pliant ruin]

i actually often find myself really annoyed by this to be honest 💔

[distant smelt]

this is incredibly valid

[vast cosmos]

Don't worry I'll save the day by asking stupid questions

[wanton pendant]

I mean, Ravager is mostly intact, evil2 are literally just gore pulled together by their shared power.

[pliant ruin]

A bit of silliness is fine but when it overpowers the rest it just gets frustrating

Though i suppose maybe im just old.

go grandma

[wanton pendant]

Ha, old.

[vast cosmos]

What the hell is the link between yharim and yharon

[distant smelt]

it is god essence though so i'd personally count it

[cloud ibex]

Hear that sis

[split mortar]

Whats happening

[wanton pendant]

Yharon saved Yharim's life.

[split mortar]

Does terrarian need wxplaineinf.

[distant smelt]

yharon saved yharim and then they soul bonded or something

[pliant ruin]

Yharon and Yharim are best friends more or less

[cloud ibex]

No

[wanton pendant]

And they share a bond.

[vast cosmos]

besties

[wanton pendant]

So Yharim doesn't get microwaved in his armour.

[pliant ruin]

Yharon is the last auric dragon, Yharim is someone who's fighting to avenge the Auric Dragons, in his eyes

[distant smelt]

he should
i think he deserves to get auric springlocked

[vast cosmos]

OHHHH

THATS HIS MOTIVE

[distant smelt]

yes

[wanton pendant]

We said this earlier.

[split mortar]

Yharim the racist

[vast cosmos]

That makes way more sense

[pliant ruin]

They're the leads of the crusade, best friends and have a bond quite literally so strong that their souls are linked

[vast cosmos]

Im not great at reading

[distant smelt]

tbf we just said he wanted to kill gods
not why

[wanton pendant]

We get used to it.

[distant smelt]

i think

[vast cosmos]

Well thats the only thing I read

[pliant ruin]

He wants to kill all gods (All, regardless of the nuance or context of the Gods's ascencion or whether they're good people or not) because in his eyes they're All Bad

[frosty charm]

How common knowledge is the age of dragons

[pliant ruin]

As i've said many times when explaining to others who are new at this

[wanton pendant]

He's racist towards gods, lizard people and anyone who is religious.

[distant smelt]

apparently not very until yharim started spouting off about it

[wanton pendant]

I'd assume the gods covered up the draconic hunts mostly, but people would likely be aware dragons existed.

[pliant ruin]

Yharim's biggest failure is that he's so deeply ingrained into his own ideology he reaches a point where he deludes himself into fully believing hes right even when everyone tells him otherwise

[wanton pendant]

Since the layman wouldn't know how to ascend.

[frosty charm]

even people outside of the heartlands?

[wanton pendant]

Yharim's reach extended the world mostly.

[pliant ruin]

I think the fact Dragons existed would probably be known the same way we know Dinosaurs existed but the details of it would be sparse

Considering that

[frosty charm]

alr

[pliant ruin]

Dragons can't even speak the same language as most people do

[wanton pendant]

Like, people knew there were dragons, but not why there aren't anymore.

[pliant ruin]

I wonder how many even knw they were like

sapient beings

with societies and shit

Actually from the Gorthus QnA we got a while ago

Pretty sure it implies

[split mortar]

Probably a bunch given chrysadia

[pliant ruin]

That atleast a good few people thought they were just animals

[wanton pendant]

And the gods likely covered their hunts up because that would make them look bad.

[pliant ruin]

I mean

Dunno if i'd say that

It's generalizing a bit

Some definitely would tho

I never like reffering to either Dragons or Gods as a collective in this sort of context

[wanton pendant]

Regardless, the only ones who know how to ascend are the gods and Yharim, most likely.

[pliant ruin]

because it ends up generalizing

[distant smelt]

tbf if i heard that someone absorbed the immortal soul of another creature for nebulous reasons i would probably be pretty miffed about it

[wanton pendant]

Especially if your new best friend was one of those creatures.

[pliant ruin]

Yharim had like valid reasons to be angry then. I mean he's hearing from the Dragon who saved him about how Gods killed all his people and he was almost killed by likely the only gods he had experiences with at the time, which were, well

scumbags

The problem comes down to him never learning and being stuck in that mindset since then

[vast cosmos]

when the devourer eats a god does the auric soul just. disappear

[wanton pendant]

Gods don't have auric souls.

[pliant ruin]

Gods don't have auric souls

Not anymore, anyways

[wanton pendant]

Too slow.

[split mortar]

God souls like turn to essence

Basically breaks monster undertale afaik

[pliant ruin]

When a god absorbs an Auric soul their soul gets mixed with the Auric soul, essentially making a new thing

[pliant ruin]

This is why once a god absorbs an auric soul

There's no going back for the dragon

Otherwise, when a god was killed, Yharon would've been able to just, revive the dragon

[distant smelt]

also it goes to noxus probably

probably

[frosty charm]

with our powers combined!

[vast cosmos]

but if something were to absorb that soul it wouldn't be a god?

[split mortar]

Noxus or distortion definitely

[wanton pendant]

No, too unstable I guess.

God souls are like, the third form of the souls at that point.

[distant smelt]

i mean you kill a few gods in game sooo
like when yharon dies you get soul fragments but the rest give nothing really

[pliant ruin]

The souls of gods are already far too unstable due to essentially being the result of compacting two souls in one, so when they die, as the other said, it just dissipates into divine essence. This divine essence can influence the enviroment around it and stuff like the evil biomes is created by that sort of thing

[wanton pendant]

'World Soul' -> Auric Souls -> Godly Souls.

[split mortar]

Not absorbing an auric soul so yeah wouldnt create something like a god
It would also just be bad for your mind to do so

[distant smelt]

nvm provi drops unholy essence so there's your answer i guess

[visual kiln]

they're seen like how monster hunter people see elder dragons n stuff imo

[pliant ruin]

big mysthical animals that r rly powerful and smarter than most average animals but still kind of just animals for the most part

yeah checks out

[visual kiln]

mhm

oor like

how pokemon legendaries are seen

[wanton pendant]

And many of them weren't like super powerful, Yharon is indicated to be an exception.

[pliant ruin]

tbf pokemon legendaries tend to be like

actually just gods

so i think the elder dragon comparison works better

[wanton pendant]

It depends for Pokémon.

One of them is literally just God.

And then there's Diancie.

[pliant ruin]

It depends yeah some of them like the birds are just

yep. really strong bird

[wanton pendant]

Legendary Birds are literally just strong, rare birds.

[pliant ruin]

but then you get stuff like the weather trio or the creation trio or arceus and its just

yep those are literally just gods

[split mortar]

Sometimes they are mystical animal
Some times they are space itself

[wanton pendant]

One of them's Satan.

[vast cosmos]

im too hollow knight brained because i think strong videogame creature = a god

[visual kiln]

i meant how like

[wanton pendant]

Well too bad. We have a definition.

[visual kiln]

the people in pokemon see zapdos or articuno or ho-oh

[vast cosmos]

which is why i assumed most of the bosses were gods

[split mortar]

Only like 3 are

[pliant ruin]

(arguably 5!)

[distant smelt]

"whatever the slime god dragon was i forget"

[pliant ruin]

gluttony

[wanton pendant]

Gluttony.

[pliant ruin]

gloombor

[split mortar]

5?
I know queen slime
The other?

[vast cosmos]

In what ways does consuming an auric soul fuck you up

[pliant ruin]

evil2

[wanton pendant]

Only one, you become a god.

[pliant ruin]

i wasnt even counting queen slime

[split mortar]

Oh right

[wanton pendant]

More than that, you get Polterghasted real quick.

[pliant ruin]

It dosen't really fuck you up directly

[visual kiln]

gloombort

[pliant ruin]

You just ascend to godhood

[distant smelt]

well yeah, it's just slime god

[split mortar]

So like polterghast

[vast cosmos]

and that entails what

[pliant ruin]

You get cool domain powers

[split mortar]

If you consume more then 1

[vast cosmos]

awesome

[wanton pendant]

If you absorb like, three, you would become like Polterghast.

[visual kiln]

@cosmic zenith dragonbane

[wanton pendant]

A horrific soulbased amalgamation.

[vast cosmos]

what if i consumed 4

[pliant ruin]

Sometimes your physical form gets distorted though as seen with Providence but that seems to have specific requirements

[wanton pendant]

You would be so screwed.

[split mortar]

Polterghast

[pliant ruin]

Rather than just being a thing that always happens

[distant smelt]

dissolution probably

[pliant ruin]

The auric soul you absorb changes the way you look but how much it changes varies

[split mortar]

Wanna see what polterghast is like experiencing?

[visual kiln]

why did my internet die help

[pliant ruin]

Silva is like. really not all that different after ascending

[vast cosmos]

whats the perfect amount of auric souls to make the forever weed from that one joke comic

[pliant ruin]

But then you have Slime God

[wanton pendant]

Bascially it's like Undertale but instead of seven making you a god only one is needed and the more you do the more messed up you get.

[pliant ruin]

Slime God used to be a person

now they're

a ball

[visual kiln]

slime god's transformation must've been body horror tbh

[distant smelt]

one from whatever nature dragon there was

[vast cosmos]

Huhg

[wanton pendant]

Instead of gender-fluid they're a gender-slime.

[distant smelt]

it is a god

[pliant ruin]

all Gods used to be people

[distant smelt]

so it used to be human

[split mortar]

You have to be sapient to do the ritual

[pliant ruin]

Not necessarily human tbf

But has to be a person

[visual kiln]

imagine transforming into a ball

[vast cosmos]

Could a dragon do the ritual?

[visual kiln]

imagine ur flesh melting into slime

[pliant ruin]

Like Otonilou and Tyrian aren't humans but they're still people

[pliant ruin]

Good question. Theoretically i suppose so but its never happened as far as we know

Sounds like it'd be fucked up though

that's 2 auric souls

[distant smelt]

imagine absorbing a whole ass auric soul just to become a prehardmode to early hardmode ball

[split mortar]

Theoretically probablt but never happened or was even tried

[vast cosmos]

Lmaooo

Slime Gods got fucked over bad

[pliant ruin]

do we know that

[distant smelt]

*god

[wanton pendant]

The dragon would probably not fare well.

[visual kiln]

could dog do the ritual

also

@pliant ruin mlem

[pliant ruin]

Good question

does dog even have a soul

[distant smelt]

i hate this idea so much actually

[wanton pendant]

Probably, no reason why he couldn't.

[vast cosmos]

id assume so

[pliant ruin]

idk if he does atp

@visual kiln

mlem

[wanton pendant]

Unless him being from another dimension makes this work weird.

[pliant ruin]

Yeah like i think theoretically he could

Unless his anatomy is so fucked up that he like

dosen't have a soul or something

[distant smelt]

it'd probably work and now im terrified

[pliant ruin]

which ok to be fair

[split mortar]

Werent the writers against adding a auric dragon that ascended at some point
Relating to frost and the dukes

[pliant ruin]

yeah i can see that

[pliant ruin]

Weren't you told to not use random one off dev statements as if they were completely factual

😊

[wanton pendant]

Oh, yeah, I remember now.

They said they wouldn't add that because it would be so screwed up.

A dragon attacking another dragon would be a massive taboo.

[dusk laurel]

no...

this was for an addon

[wanton pendant]

So it likely never happened.

[visual kiln]

do u need a soul for the ritual

[dusk laurel]

thats been in the graveyard

[wanton pendant]

I mean, most gods had their soul merged with the auric soul to become something new.

So probably?

[split mortar]

It fuses your soul and the dragons so i would imagine so

[pliant ruin]

I mean seemingly so
The entire concept is that the auric soul merges with your own

[wanton pendant]

Unless you do it the secret special way.

[visual kiln]

why r u using this emote more often

[wanton pendant]

Can someone not be joyous?

[icy veldt]

No. Not allowed

[pliant ruin]

If something without a soul entirely does it i imagine it either means it just dosen't work or something entirely separate from the usual divine ascencion would happen

[pliant ruin]

its for when im being evil usually

[distant smelt]

😔

[wanton pendant]

That's why your dreams of catgirls will go unfulfilled.

[vast cosmos]

If you do it without a soul what happens

Theoretically

[pliant ruin]

.

[distant smelt]

no idea

[wanton pendant]

We don't know.

[pliant ruin]

We don't know yeah

[icy veldt]

😾

[split mortar]

Yeah that adds up i felt a passive aggressive vibe from the emote

[pliant ruin]

Yeah that was the intention

[vast cosmos]

I wanna hear theories and headcanons

[wanton pendant]

Since that's a theoretical on an intentionally obscure fictional process.

[pliant ruin]

its the evil passive agressive smile

also melon i hope that wasn't like too mean .

[wanton pendant]

I don't think headcanon means what you think it means.

[dusk laurel]

i dont think ive ever seen this emoji used genuinely

[visual kiln]

why is cheese being more passive aggressive :<

[dusk laurel]

its always been passive agressive

[distant smelt]

In terraria
dragon absorbs you

[pliant ruin]

im like this to melon all the time

were worsties

[visual kiln]

i can fix her

[pliant ruin]

pensive

[distant smelt]

pensive

[icy veldt]

Evisnep

[wanton pendant]

That's what happens to the British.

[vast cosmos]

I have so many questions about lore

[wanton pendant]

We know.

[visual kiln]

ask them

🔫

[split mortar]

Thats fine

[visual kiln]

go my weird potato creature

[wanton pendant]

Why is it a water gun?

[vast cosmos]

Because violence or something

[icy veldt]

Because you are water

[distant smelt]

You're made of circuits now

good luck surviving that

[vast cosmos]

How the hell does Yharim actually talk to you

[pliant ruin]

Ah

[vast cosmos]

Like. how do the whispers... exist

[wanton pendant]

Magic rock.

[distant smelt]

good question

[pliant ruin]

Well basically the current method isn't actually the final one

Like. Lore items? Yeah they're being blown up

[wanton pendant]

He has a Gossip Stone.

[vast cosmos]

How make magic rocks

[split mortar]

With whats in game afaik its just psychic brain blasting

[pliant ruin]

This isn't guaranteed tro come but

[wanton pendant]

Does it matter?

[pliant ruin]

Lore developers have plans that are likely to come

[vast cosmos]

Maybe I want magic rock

[wanton pendant]

You'll find one.

[vast cosmos]

i sound like a caveman

[pliant ruin]

About you basically being able to find a funny little magic stone, that used to be a communication device a long, long time ago

[split mortar]

Yes

[pliant ruin]

Few people have many of 'em left, and Yharim would be one of the ones that do

[wanton pendant]

Basically it's just the Gossip Stone from Wind Waker.

[pliant ruin]

And by finding that stone, you coincidentally establish a communication link with him

[vast cosmos]

I assume the labs are Draedon's?

[pliant ruin]

ye

[vast cosmos]

dont really know his deal though

[split mortar]

Science

No matter what

[wanton pendant]

Draedon wants to do science, at any cost.

[visual kiln]

weird random robot guy with dubious origins

[split mortar]

Snail

[distant smelt]

Glad0s if she was slightly less fucked up

[vast cosmos]

is anyone in Calamity a good person

[wanton pendant]

He's pro-slavery, pro-pollution, pro-murder, so long as it means he's doing science.

[distant smelt]

maybe

[visual kiln]

me

[wanton pendant]

Calamitas.

[distant smelt]

yeah fair actually

[vast cosmos]

I don't know her deal either to be honest

[visual kiln]

well that depends tbh

[distant smelt]

child soldier

[vast cosmos]

and he teamed up with yharim to do god science i guess

[visual kiln]

is something awful ur manipulated into doing a permanent stain on ur record?

[wanton pendant]

Permafrost was with Yharim for like 90 years Calamitas left after 3 he should have figured it out by then.

[split mortar]

Calamitas nowadays is just kinda introverted and traumatised of yharim afaik

[wanton pendant]

No to do war science.

[distant smelt]

doesn't automatically make you a bad person forever and ever

[visual kiln]

maybe

[wanton pendant]

The only person who won't forgive Calamitas is Calamitas.

[vast cosmos]

maybe legally but idk about calamity's justice system

[icy veldt]

There isn't one anymore

[wanton pendant]

It's been reduced to rubble.

[vast cosmos]

Well

[split mortar]

There isnt one cause yharim killed most governments

[distant smelt]

justice barely exists in the first place in calamity

[visual kiln]

prrrrrrrrrrrobably not true tbh

[vast cosmos]

Maybe [insert playername here] should make one

[wanton pendant]

Calamitas lives in a cave.

[distant smelt]

boring

[wanton pendant]

Wow, ok, why won't you forgive her for being groomed?

[vast cosmos]

Insertplayernamehere should make an authoritarian government

[visual kiln]

....?

[icy veldt]

Me

[distant smelt]

^

[visual kiln]

why r u singling me out i dont even exist in the cal world

[wanton pendant]

I'm making a joke implying you won't forgive her.

[visual kiln]

oh ok

but anyways do people know she was groomed into doing that

[split mortar]

Just say the terrarian for the player character

[vast cosmos]

dawg if someone was abused into war crimes i dont think id blame them

[distant smelt]

absolutely

[wanton pendant]

Probably not, but if you did...

[vast cosmos]

insertplayernamehere is funnier

[distant smelt]

my headcanon is final

[visual kiln]

if u did then i still expect like

maybe 5% of people to just not care

[pliant ruin]

I mean i think some people won't forgive hjer still

[visual kiln]

mhm

[pliant ruin]

I do personally but like some definitely wont

There's alot of good people in the lore of calamity though its just that you asked about yharim and draedon specifically and those are like

[wanton pendant]

Calamitas not forgiving Calamitas is certainly like, one of the important parts of her story.

[vast cosmos]

i forgive her (idk exactly what she did

[pliant ruin]

literally John Main Villain and John Morally Dubious Secondary Antagonist

[wanton pendant]

Nuked Italy.

[split mortar]

Killed a country

Basically

[pliant ruin]

There's more good people than there's bad people gonna be real

[distant smelt]

and many more at least

[visual kiln]

true tbh

[split mortar]

Statis
Braelor
Silva
Xeroc
They all seemingly chill

[vast cosmos]

Moon lord is just. some powerful dude in calamity?

[pliant ruin]

Amidias, Permafrost, Calamitas, Statis, Braelor, Silva, Agnus, Otonilou

[icy veldt]

True, but most of them will be ordinary people trying to live their lives. Heroes have been in short supply since Yharim's crusade

[wanton pendant]

Tried to destroy the world.

[pliant ruin]

The ones i can remember of the top of my head

[wanton pendant]

But yes.

[pliant ruin]

Vetrasyl too

[wanton pendant]

Agnus is very much dead.

[distant smelt]

space squid yeah

[pliant ruin]

Vetrasyl was a pretty good guy from what i remember

[split mortar]

We dunno the guy just appeared and nearly killed an era

[pliant ruin]

Agnus is in fact dead but he was a good guy

[vast cosmos]

i recognise 3 of these names

[pliant ruin]

As for bad guys there's like

[wanton pendant]

Same with Otonilou.

[pliant ruin]

Yharim. Draedon (Kind Of. Complicated), Devourer, Providence, Yharon

[visual kiln]

@supple storm hello you

[split mortar]

Evil 2:

[wanton pendant]

Braelor and Statis are gay, and were banished to the shadow realm.

[supple storm]

meow