#lore-discussion

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wanton pendant
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And you would not be finding cool stuff every step.

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It'd be a lot of forests, burnt down forests, the occasional mounds of rotten corpses.

zenith geode
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the 120 mile wide forest

distant smelt
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The crimson is 2 day long trip through and 5x more deadly
Good luck

wanton pendant
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Even ignoring we only explore two axis.

hoary cape
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We explore X and Y axis just no Z

wanton pendant
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It would take forever to do anything. And let's not even consider having lore accurate day lengths.

brazen swallow
wanton pendant
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Like, in the lore, Azafure and Ilmeris are only close in the way I don't know, Spain and Austria are close. Same continent, but it'd be a massive trek to reach one from the other.

zenith geode
wanton pendant
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In game it'd be like, a day at most.

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In game day.

zenith geode
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this would make pylons actually useful

wanton pendant
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They are useful. (I only play on large worlds.)

hoary cape
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Imagine if games were accurate about distance travel and time

wanton pendant
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Morrowind.

hoary cape
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Terraria just has a very short day and night cycle obviously

distant smelt
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Y’know how most boss fights take at least a minute
Good luck fighting the eater of worlds for like two straight hours

wanton pendant
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As a rule of thumb, you can generally discount the scale in games as being utterly accurate the story because making a game to scale is a nightmare and playing a game to scale is a nightmare.

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Imagine Pokémon, but each route takes multiple days to traverse.

brazen swallow
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why would fighting things take longer?

wanton pendant
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Because it's probably not gonna die instantly.

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In game minutes are an hour in time.

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So if a boss takes a minute to beat...

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It takes an hour in the story.

brazen swallow
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oh wait you meant scaling that direct

wanton pendant
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It's not to scale, it's all shrunk down.

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Because it'd suck if it were realistic.

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Supreme Witch, Calamitas is fighting you for multiple hours straight.

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Even if the fight takes five minutes for you, it was a five hour battle in the narrative.

eager bluff
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its worth noting that it uh. would probably still die in the same amount of time. because the terrarian is in fact not moving at 60x slowdown

wanton pendant
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Realistically, the attacks and movements of characters are also even less to scale.

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Otherwise everyone is moving painfully slow.

zenith geode
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the terrarian's fall speed is actually less than 1 mile per hour

wanton pendant
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Like, think about what you can do in a day in Terraria. With only 24 minutes, it's not that much.

zenith geode
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you can mine through rock pretty fast

wanton pendant
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If from the characters perspective that's 24 hours...

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Also, NPCs sitting around and doing nothing is probably not accurate to the canon as it were.

deft comet
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You literally said we shouldn't use in game scale before

zenith geode
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like im pretty sure the terrarian can outpace a tunnel boring machine

young socket
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all the town npcs watching the terrarian fish in complete silence for two hours:

eager bluff
wanton pendant
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Obviously.

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None of it is to scale.

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And the scale is not consistent, it's just what works best for gameplay.

eager bluff
deft comet
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It sounds like that was the point you were trying to make

wanton pendant
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Like, Terrarian doesn't need to eat or sleep. If anyone says Terrarian is you and I decide they don't do that I will strangle you.

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I know what to scale means.

eager bluff
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something being to scale means it is increased or decreased at a consistent rate

wanton pendant
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I know that.

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Sorry if I misphrased something.

cobalt brook
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any1 know if there is a lore doc or something?

brazen swallow
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check pins

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the latest one is a 100+ page document of most of the lore, it's awesome

cobalt brook
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aight thx u

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are lyrics in the soundtrack canonical or?

brazen swallow
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roar of the jungle dragon, yeah

sinful adder
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Only sort of

sinful adder
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And RotJD is closer to correct than SBC

frosty charm
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idk if it's at all accurate to the terraria nurse but i wrote her as generally uncaring towards the heroics of the cast (particularly one character who wants her to stop taking her 'work' lightly) as she's likely seen several heroes come and go, plus it seems fitting (despite you giving her a home for free she still charges you top dollar and refuses to work if she thinks it's too dangerous)

long bloom
wanton pendant
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Stained, Brutal Calamity was made for a much earlier draft of the lore and makes reference to things that are very much not true anymore. Despite being for an earlier draft, Roar of the Jungle Dragon managed to get more accurate, if anything.

deft comet
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Its kind of hard for roar of the jungle dragon to ever not be true while Yharim is a character we will fight

frosty charm
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Yeah but I imagine it's staying since it goes hard and is very much iconic

deft comet
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All of the themes are bangers

frosty charm
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I finished the prologue's draft but idk where to take the story now

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Cultist is dear and one of the mcs went home after eating an explosion to set up that she doesn't want to be a "hero" but now like I said idk where to go, the two other mcs are still at the dungeon

deft comet
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Stained, brutal calamity is also just too peak to ever change imo, same with roar of the jungle dragon

frosty charm
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I want at least a chapter or 2 of them just building their characters up Soo any ideas I can hear

wanton pendant
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Obviously you need to have the character learn that with great power comes great responsibility, you gotta give them a reason to be a hero.

frosty charm
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Yharim wants them to continue their crusade and everyone else wants them to be a hero that rises against him when they really don't know what they want. But it's not like they have time to think until after they're done

wanton pendant
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Something's gotta happen to push them towards a side.

frosty charm
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They're motivated not by justice but spite

wanton pendant
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Great, go ahead and kill their friend!

frosty charm
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Then they kinda assimilate their beliefs overtime

frosty charm
wanton pendant
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This probably happened in power rangers or something.

frosty charm
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This is the fourth time you've mentioned power rangers in our talks I think you're a fan

wanton pendant
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I know nothing about power rangers.

wheat walrus
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WaterWraithYapping

wanton pendant
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What?

wheat walrus
wanton pendant
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Honestly, I'm certain it did.

wheat walrus
frosty charm
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Byeah like I said, general layout is

  • Protags beat cultist
  • Protags chill before pillars come
  • Then they beat the moon lord and Provi
  • After Provi, leader protag gets neg diffed by dog going after the crystal before signus comes in and nearly kills the party (they have to escape)
  • Everyone's sad for a while, then new leader guy steps up, they go after the envoys and dog
  • New leader guy sacrifices himself to kill dog, blowing a hole through the distortion and reality (noxus foreshadowing ooohh)
  • Yharon, Exos and Cal go relatively fine (protag four had to fight the remaining protag because Calamitas kinda puppets their body around)
  • They make their way to the aerie, Yharim kills protag 3 and protag 4 gets angry and they fight
  • Mid fight, noxus shows up and begins to consume the light of the aerie
  • They team up and defeat noxus, I'm not sure if I want protag 4 to kill them, noxus to kill them or the collapse of the aerie to/their fate be left ambiguous
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Wall of text jumpscare

wanton pendant
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I think it's out of character for Calamitas to puppet someone like she's Ganondorf.

wheat walrus
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Maybe when she was still in warcrimes n shi

frosty charm
wanton pendant
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Which one?

frosty charm
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The gas shadow one

wheat walrus
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Now it doesn't feel like she'd do that, idk. Depends on what ashumi is cooking ig

wanton pendant
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Like, Calamitas herself was a puppet.

frosty charm
wanton pendant
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And she's trying to be a hero during the boss fight.

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Younger then 28, her approximate in game age?

frosty charm
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Ages are still relatively up in the air since a lot of their stories are "comes from x place in nondescript time period"
Protag one comes from the temple, fleeing after the ravager thing, protag two is from the crags (they really want to be I have to find a reason they exist) protag three is like Tavernkeep and comes from another world and protag 4 comes from the aerie, what they are is unclear (because idk yet)

wanton pendant
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Calamitas is someone who had her autonomy ripped from her multiple times, it just doesn't seem fitting she would do the same to someone else after that.

deft comet
wanton pendant
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That's what I'm saying.

deft comet
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Calamitas is like #1 not using people person

wheat walrus
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Unless they're dead

frosty charm
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🤷‍♀️ seemed like hype moments and aura moment

deft comet
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Well they dont have a concious then

wanton pendant
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She does puppet the dead to be fair.

wanton pendant
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She should use the dead protagonists instead.

deft comet
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Difference between using a corpse and someone alive with thoughts and shit

wanton pendant
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Because that's fair game.

frosty charm
deft comet
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She is probably very used to death so stigma around bodies likely isnt there for her

wanton pendant
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She managed to put her brothers back together, can't imagine there's a whole lot left of them.

frosty charm
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Idk I think it'd be in character enough for a much more unstable and reckless version but whether or not I keep it is up in the air

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Maybe it'd be a better moment for draedon, just seeing what would happen if mind control device number two is used in some random

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Chum bucket control device

deft comet
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Yeah draedon seems more the type to use his plague on something more sentient

wanton pendant
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Oh yeah Draedon wouldn't even blink at mind control.

deft comet
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Nah it depends on the reason

frosty charm
wanton pendant
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He got confused as to why Yharim didn't like his mind control nanomachines that rot you from the inside.

deft comet
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No there needs to be some sort of power he would try to udnerstand or amplify

wanton pendant
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He explicitly doesn't have morals of any kind.

frosty charm
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I don't see him going "wow you did good let me fix them up!"

wanton pendant
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That's true, he wouldn't have a reason to let his victim go.

deft comet
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And even then in a human I would see him instead of full mind control do a like amplification control where the bots do things to "forcefully" improve the technique or muscle control or something along those lines

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Draedon isnt the type to mind control for torture purposes for the sake of it

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There needs to be some sort of scientific goal

frosty charm
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Yeahh in terms of that I'm unsure

wanton pendant
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And in Calamitas' case it undermines her entire storyline by doing so.

deft comet
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Like him willingly working on the calamitas close to figure out Calamitas' power source

frosty charm
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Maybe just seeing if it works on more sentient forms of like (idk if he did use it on people/people adjacent things)

wanton pendant
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He doesn't do that kinda thing for fun. Only science.

frosty charm
deft comet
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Again there needs to be a goal

frosty charm
deft comet
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He knows his plague works very well

frosty charm
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Byeah there's that

deft comet
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It would have to be for the purpose of mixing something like his exo tech with a magical outlier

frosty charm
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Plague v2 works on people now!

wanton pendant
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Maybe he's made some kind of improvement to the Astral Infection allowing temporary control of sapient life. And he is testing it on your guy.

frosty charm
deft comet
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doesnt need a power source

wanton pendant
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Antimatter annihilates matter on contact.

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Explosively.

deft comet
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he has sea prisms

wanton pendant
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That's why it generates power.

frosty charm
wanton pendant
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They don't.

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Way too expensive.

frosty charm
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Fictional reactors

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Shrug I'm at a loss

wanton pendant
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It costs multiple billions to make a tiny amount.

frosty charm
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I do like the astral idea

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But I'm not sure what the end goal would be if he has the plague

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Maybe just seeing if he can control the mutations or something

wanton pendant
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Oh in fiction yeah do what you want. You can make reactors fuelled by whatever the hell. In Calamity they use Sea Prisms.

deft comet
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I think your best bet is some person has astral based powers and has been taken over by the astral infection so he reverses the infection's affliction of the person's mind with his own mind control

frosty charm
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Like the main thing is that I want to draedon/Calamitas fight to have a lasting impact on the story beyond cal moving in and becoming a character

deft comet
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But we have been told the astral infection doesnt really do biological sentience overtaking

split mortar
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Whats happening

deft comet
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idk

frosty charm
wanton pendant
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Calamitas is the remind of what they're fighting for and why Yharim is so important to be defeated. She's a living reminder of his actions.

frosty charm
deft comet
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honestly im just here for character motivations

split mortar
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O ok

frosty charm
wanton pendant
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Draedon is an embodiment of his 'anything for the cause' attitude exaggerated even further.

frosty charm
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Like person one watched the ravager mess happen so they'd have a pretty clear reason to do that

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Person two I'm not sure why someone who just spawned from lava would want to join outside of like, boredom and wanting to fight strong guys

deft comet
wanton pendant
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Avenge Azafure?

frosty charm
frosty charm
deft comet
wanton pendant
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They could be slowly being assimilated by something that makes them stronger I guess.

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I've seen that before.

wanton pendant
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But close enough for Yharim, he doesn't like the elementals much either due to being very dangerous.

frosty charm
deft comet
frosty charm
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Idk if he'd sneak them but I don't put it past him if he'd want a 1v1

wanton pendant
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Nah, the Draedon fight's aftermath leaves them with full control because of some reason or other.

deft comet
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hence they would be working with the party and have the conflict of whatever controlling them trying to do bad stuff

frosty charm
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With their powers combined they give you dogshit loll

wanton pendant
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Maybe like Black Suit Spider-Man where they get more violent and unhinged over time, but it's still them.

frosty charm
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That could work yeah

deft comet
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It would give them a reason to try and infect themself with plague

wanton pendant
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Combine two empowering mind eaters and it cancels out somehow.

frosty charm
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Maybe Calamitas knows what's up idk

deft comet
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or creates something different

frosty charm
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Something something tibetan monk

wanton pendant
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The Batman way.

deft comet
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there should be a complete character shift when they mix plague and whatevr infection imo

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that kind of thing would have a lasting impact, like the forces fighting for power leaving an equilibrium

frosty charm
deft comet
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Then imo dont do anything with mind corruption/control

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if your solution is plague or some other mind altering thing

frosty charm
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I've already plotted it out with them they're cool with basically everything

frosty charm
frosty charm
wanton pendant
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To the mind control thing.

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Maybe they get a little too enthusiastic about fighting.

deft comet
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like they have some mind infection and the solution to the problem of it is another mind altering infection essentially

wanton pendant
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Draedon gets temporary control.

frosty charm
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Yeah other than like, draedon blowing off their face with some fuckass laser beam and ruining their depth perception

wanton pendant
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They get free just in time to die to Yharim.

deft comet
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I mean we know Draedon can just turn off the plague so there is always that danger inherent to it

frosty charm
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Testing if he can do the necromancy thing on a not dead person but realistically I doubt he could do that considering the clone was a fail

wanton pendant
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He asks them to test an empowering exoskeleton but he remotely controls it.

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Then he's like 'Thank You' when they break it.

frosty charm
deft comet
wanton pendant
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Clone failed because Calamitas' power isn't genetic.

deft comet
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yeah

frosty charm
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Maybe he finds a way to mimic it through sparkles technology sparkles again but idk if that's too much of a stretch or not

wanton pendant
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Draedon is far more science focused it doesn't really make sense for him to be experimenting with just magic.

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Magic + science he can take.

frosty charm
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So recapping, general idea on the big final (vanilla) boss impact is draedon mind control or gigashit laser beam that blows their faces off of their skulls

wanton pendant
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But just magic? Doesn't seem to care for it.

frosty charm
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Not vanilla vanilla but vanilla calamity

deft comet
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Yeah he only cares when science is used as some sort of conduit for magic or vice versa

wanton pendant
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We get the idea.

frosty charm
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Maybe aureus makes their grand return and proceeds to do nothing because they suck and I hate them

wanton pendant
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Aureus was made to survey battlefields... So... Uh... It films the whole thing?

frosty charm
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Films the whole thing before he's tragically hit by a stray ki blast

wanton pendant
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I don't know enough about Power Rangers is that a reference?

frosty charm
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Byeah the thing about the personality amp of person 3 is that they're a kinda cynical jokester-y character (just kinda along for the ride) so idk how an amplification of the personality would be. Maybe their jokes get worse

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Stage 3 badjokeitis

wanton pendant
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They turn into Sans.

frosty charm
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I mean jokes aside yeah maybe them becoming more apathetic would work

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They're not really the hopeful type but they do at least keep their friends going

wanton pendant
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'I'm the Underdog of this tale, man.'

frosty charm
wanton pendant
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'What are we, some kind of Terraria; Calamity Mod Fan Fiction?'
'Gary what the hell are you talking about?'

frosty charm
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Gary Larry Barry and steve

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Byeah main issue is I still dunno what to do with chapter 1

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I'm kinda retconning how the pillars work just so they have time to chill between the cultist's death and the pillars

wanton pendant
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Don't worry I heard they're gonna make Pillars a summon in the future.

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And that's not what retcon means.

frosty charm
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Byeah what fits best for Yharim death, dying to the aeries collapse, noxus or protag

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Protag very much hates Yharim but knows that if they don't wait until noxus is gone they're both dead, idk if its like "disrespectful" to Yharims character to immediately have them mauled after a fight or smth

wanton pendant
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I don't think it would be best for Yharim to die to Noxus, right, because then it just legitimizes him and his actions if he gets to die as a hero when he very, very much isn't one.

frosty charm
wanton pendant
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I'd say so, you know, it has to be this way and all that.

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I think it would work regardless of if it's before or after though.

frosty charm
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It's less of a "ouch, sorry man but it's my job and I have a quota to fill..." And more of a "now that the world ending calamity (ha! Ha! He said it!) Is gone I'm gonna kill you and I'm gonna enjoy it"

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They see Yharim as the sole reason their friends are dead because well he basically is

wanton pendant
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Then they recreate the ending of MGR together.

mighty zenith
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its ok xeroc can deal with it

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thats like one of the few things that lazy bum would do

wanton pendant
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Xeroc and Calamitas, unified in unemployment.

frosty charm
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I do plan for Xeroc to appear to actually kill noxus byeah I think it'd be a fitting enough end? Not sure

wanton pendant
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Just like Wrath of the Gods.

frosty charm
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Maybe they hit the Goku n Frieza

wanton pendant
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I didn't watch Power Rangers I don't get the reference.

frosty charm
wanton pendant
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Duck.

split mortar
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Trans people control slime

crimson pulsar
robust osprey
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I command green slime to kill you

mighty zenith
wheat walrus
split mortar
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Greed has consumed cheese throw her into a pit

brazen swallow
wheat walrus
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@pliant ruin has greed consumed you fr

pliant ruin
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yes

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im the sin of greed

split mortar
wheat walrus
wheat walrus
tropic oak
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pit

cloud ibex
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The eel pit is going under maintenance at the moment

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Best we can do is the Pit of Despair

real silo
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Will there be eels in silksong

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Seelksong

cloud ibex
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Idk I’m not team cherry

barren sonnet
real silo
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this guy doesn't know about Unn

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And the white lady

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And the pale king

wanton pendant
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And the Eeler.

real silo
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That's you

wanton pendant
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I'm not the Eeler!?

real silo
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No you are

wanton pendant
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Who are you to dictate who I am.

split mortar
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A cool dude is what altraxia is

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And so

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Can

real silo
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Melon gun is wrong

wanton pendant
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The English have no power here.

real silo
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It is not my vested rank or status that dictates my powers

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I possess it with or without my "funny blue role"

barren sonnet
# real silo this guy doesn't know about Unn

Although by the scientific definition of bugs they aren’t, the “common” definition that people use usually includes stuff like slugs and worms. I won’t argue about white lady though. That’s a tree if I ever saw one.

spark bloom
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Is there any characters who use or specialise in rouge weapons other than the bandit?

split mortar
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statis probably does

wheat walrus
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melon gun of destruction and rebirth

split mortar
wheat walrus
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melon gun of beginning and end, of past, present and future

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melon gun of place and time

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melon gun of origin and destiny

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melon gun of infinity and eternity

icy veldt
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I am Melon Gun's mirror-universe twin, Nug Nolem

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big plot twist reveal sound effect

wheat walrus
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melon gun shot at everything and nothing, calamity mod ends in 28/07/2028

random mulch
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avocado sword

wheat walrus
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apple shield

icy veldt
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Apple wand

wheat walrus
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the wand is of carrot

icy veldt
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Gun = ranged, sword = melee, wand = magic

wheat walrus
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uhhh

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pear book

icy veldt
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Carrot boomerang

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Rogue weapon

cloud ibex
wheat walrus
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what's gonna be whips

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pineapple whips

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gng

warm gull
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statis is a ninja

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do you think he uses the hook of dissonance too

cloud ibex
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I could imagine it

split mortar
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unlikely imo, thats hallowed related which hallowed didnt exist till post wof

manic coral
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man i need to get back to writing

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i've spent the past like month being consumed and becoming a project moon fan

mental palm
frosty charm
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would it make sense for yharmy to come after provi 4 the story (does yharmy even still exist?)

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and should yharmy be like twelve super buff handsome swtrong dudes or a buncha random people

pliant ruin
frosty charm
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so do they still like "work for him" (do what they think he wants) or are they just mercs now

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that just kinda do whatever they're paid to do

pliant ruin
pliant ruin
split mortar
frosty charm
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idk if yharim kept auric for himself or not

pliant ruin
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someone would still be exactly what you said

split mortar
pliant ruin
frosty charm
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no like i dont know what the abbreviation hti means

pliant ruin
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Yharim is literally the only one that can use auric

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its not an abbreviation its me saying this but with a typo

split mortar
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it was a typo

frosty charm
frosty charm
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i thought it was hired trained somethings

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so would they just wear like some shit draedon made

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maybe arsenal

split mortar
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arsenal is made mainly for yharim guys yeah

frosty charm
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i see

split mortar
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tier 1 is self defence for non combatants iirc, every tier higher is for higher rank soldiers onwards with the final tier being not even used by godseeker knights

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iirc

frosty charm
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so yeah t2 arsenal works then

pliant ruin
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i think arsenal is wht yharmy mostly had yea

frosty charm
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so a band of 5~7 dudes in arsenal popping by and trying to kill the party after they escape getting mauled by dog works i think

split mortar
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the text in the schematics probably elaborates what each tier is

frosty charm
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dog pays them four sheckles each

wheat walrus
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meow

wanton pendant
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Any remaining Yharmy are likely just bands of fanatics with varying degrees of organisation, Yharim himself is gone and his empire is in ruins, so I'd assume anyone still fighting his war would be doing it for fervour rather then money. Of course, I would assume many of his men would take up mercenary work, but they would clearly not be fighting for his cause anymore. At least, that's what I think.

visual kiln
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meow

icy veldt
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That's just every word of the Providential Tome

brazen swallow
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yharim tomorrow

split mortar
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Silksong tomorrow

icy veldt
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Ulkair gets added to Calamity tomorrow. Dawn of War IV has Providence as a bonus boss on release

full comet
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Like is it like dragon soul material or something?

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Cause we only get access to it after killing Yharon

icy veldt
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You can use it to bake an Auric Roll ||like in youtube video dQw4w9WgXcQ XD||

robust osprey
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dragon essence turned into ore iirc

gritty kraken
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I think auric are always there
we just can’t have those around in pre hm killing people in actual game

full comet
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I always thought that it's the remnants of the dead gods souls

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Since gods get their powers from combining a dragon soul with theirs

robust osprey
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not god souls

full comet
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Although it doesn't explain it's fucking conductive and zaps you 24/7

robust osprey
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its auric ore not godly ore

full comet
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So it's just

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Dragon essence

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As ore

robust osprey
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ye

full comet
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Delicious ore

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I am a weirdo that wishes that there was more like exploration in Terraria

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Exploration is fun

robust osprey
full comet
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Except Shimmer. I literally just download the world file and open it in Tedit just to like

Find it

split mortar
icy veldt
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Like how Provy's essence gets spilled out after her defeat, creating Uelibloom Ore, Yharon's essence gets spilled out after his defeat, since the player didn't perform the ascension ritual (due to not knowing how), so that creates Auric Ore.

The damage is caused by auric rejection: you're not attuned with an Auric Ore, so it rejects you. Wearing the Auric Tesla stuff makes it look like you're Auric attuned, so it doesn't zap you

full comet
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Because I cannot be asked to drill near the jungle and beach

full comet
split mortar
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The devs will add a subworld mainly for post ml exploration

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Distortion

full comet
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One is absorbing the essence via the ritual

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The other is using the essence

icy veldt
full comet
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The Gods do the absorbing the essence part

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Yharim did the using the essence

robust osprey
#

he didnt use essence

icy veldt
#

Yharim was attuned with his buddy Yharon

full comet
#

Which probably means that Yharon probably had to die once or twice to get Auric stuff

robust osprey
#

he just has a dragon buddy

split mortar
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And then theres scal and draedon

full comet
split mortar
full comet
split mortar
full comet
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"Buddy, I need to make a new armor set. Let me kill you again."

robust osprey
#

that would go against 1 of the 3 fundamental principles of YellowMan

icy veldt
#

"Dragons = good"

split mortar
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Harming dragons no matter what bad

robust osprey
#

exactly

full comet
icy veldt
#

One hell of a "moral principle"

split mortar
split mortar
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Exploring with wulfrum flashlight in prehardmode is unironically a vibe i really like

full comet
#

But idk how that would work

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Nor do I have the programming knowledge to do that

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Like for example, after you defeat WoF, there's adamantite chests filled with Early HM related gear in unexplored sections.

split mortar
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Theres a mod that makes unlooted gold chests have mimic loot in hardmode no?

icy veldt
#

Just keep track of which chests exist when the world is generated, then every so often you loop through them and regen the loot inside any of the ones that are empty (to avoid overwriting any player items)

split mortar
full comet
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"Yeah bro you're fooling everybody."

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Except the Biome mimics which just love to fucking murder you

icy veldt
#

TF2 Spy wearing "Terraria chest" mask

full comet
#

Seriously they terrify me

split mortar
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They are a nightmare in caves and comically easy on surface

full comet
#

Luckily you can craft biome keys to farm for them

split mortar
#

I dont remember a time i have beat a biome mimic underground

full comet
#

Still an unpleasant surprise when you see one while mining

split mortar
full comet
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They're also terrifying with how they just casually go through walls just to get you

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FNAF jumpscare

split mortar
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Coolaid man through 43 metre thick stone wall

icy veldt
#

I wonder if there's a mod that allows the player to prevent certain monsters/critters/whatever from spawning, e.g. biome mimics, owls, bats, Prismatic Lacewings, seagulls, etc.

full comet
#

I do wish there were biome chests similar to the biome mimics that spawn.

Purely so that there's a small chance that biome mimics can just fully jump scare you

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You cannot escape

icy veldt
full comet
#

In my vanilla master mode playthrough

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I actually decided to fully decorate the houses

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...

full comet
#

I made a bathroom area, mainly for the sink, but also for decoration

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...

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The golfer settled in there

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He sleeps in the bathtub ig

icy veldt
#

It's good for the skin

wanton pendant
full comet
#

I unironically added beds for most of the NPCs

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Yeah it was a long playthrough

icy veldt
#

Just have them sleep on the floor

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Or the chair

wanton pendant
#

Calamitas watching from her cave.

full comet
#

I even made an artificial crimson biome

full comet
wanton pendant
#

'They gave them beds?'

full comet
#

So Calamitas just didn't exist

full comet
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Maybe I should do that for my eventual calamity playthrough just to make her even more jealous

icy veldt
#

Calamitas in vanilla:

full comet
wanton pendant
#

Fine then, Tax Collector then.

icy veldt
full comet
icy veldt
#

Put a warning sign outside her new cave that says "BEWARE: WITCH"

wanton pendant
#

This is the old man thing people online are obsessed with nowadays, right?

full comet
#

Because it's convenient

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To be able to just teleport there

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And also it looked cool

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I used granite and it fit the background

wanton pendant
#

I put the Fargo NPCs near the shimmer.

full comet
#

The only ones that didn't have a bed were like

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The beach houses

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They were just the classic boxes

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I originally planned to make a pirate ship but I didn't want to

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Also the angler was there

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I wanted to make his house out of poo but I was too lazy

wanton pendant
#

Grown and getting mad at a ten year old.

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Typical Calamity server player.

icy veldt
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Hey, he's a fictional ten-year-old, I'll have you know!

full comet
#

He deserved the poop house

wanton pendant
#

Calamitas after burning an entire country to the ground gets treated nicer then a child who is mildly annoying.

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The duality of man.

full comet
#

The war crimes maybe fictional

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But my annoyance is real

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He did give me the hotline pretty early so maybe he doesn't deserve the poop house

full comet
#

Due to Yharim grooming Calamitas (to be a weapon)

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I genuinely thought of like

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The Ukulele apology thumbnail but it's fucking Yharim holding the Ukulele

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"The Toxic God train"

wanton pendant
#

Deep breath. 'Hey guys, I'm making this video because I've made repeated and continuous lapses of judgement.'

distant smelt
#

*crusade train

wanton pendant
#

'So, the Calamitas accusation. In my defence, she did consent, now, I didn't know at the time that 13 year olds cannot consent to going to war.'

distant smelt
#

Wait who’s yharim’s lawer permafrost is presumed dead

wanton pendant
#

Von Karma.

distant smelt
#

Oh gods no

full comet
# distant smelt *crusade train

"The God Crusade train~!

You're chugging down the tracks of genocidial war!

The God Crusade Train!

You got a one way ticket to manipulation station!"

long bloom
distant smelt
#

No calamitas has the ticket

full comet
wanton pendant
#

He has Yharon with him at the start of the video for humanisation points.

distant smelt
#

Yharon is, somehow, sitting on his lap

wanton pendant
#

'How was I supposed to know her father didn't approve, he never mentioned it to me. Now, fine, I didn't mention it to him either... But that just means he's a neglectful father.'

full comet
#

Ngl

wanton pendant
#

'Gaslight, Gatekeep, Girlboss, Godslay.' -Yharim.

icy veldt
distant smelt
full comet
#

Imagining Yharim sleeping on Yharon like a big bed

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A big floofy bed

wanton pendant
#

Yharon was a very effective propaganda tool.

distant smelt
#

This is why yharon is the greatest

full comet
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Honestly the funniest part is that is current sprite reminds me of a fluffy blanket

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Either that or fried chicken wings

icy veldt
#

Yharon is was fat

full comet
#

Both?

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Both

wanton pendant
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'Join the crusade, we have a dragon.'

distant smelt
#

He is very cool

tropic oak
#

hi

distant smelt
#

You definitely wont be reduced to ash by a god because she decided you failed the vibe check that day

wanton pendant
#

Hello.

icy veldt
tropic oak
#

DIE

icy veldt
#

DANGIT

full comet
wanton pendant
#

What did I do? :(

distant smelt
icy veldt
#

Accidental embed not-fail!

full comet
#

Also is there a calamity version of this

wanton pendant
#

What even would the Calamity version be?

full comet
#

This is very important

icy veldt
#

Idk

full comet
#

Or...

Draedon + Exo-Mechs: "We have come to test your mettle!"

"Get the FUCK OUT OF MY HOUSE!"

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Doesn't really make sense because you summon them

#

But

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Shut u-

brazen swallow
#

"we have come for your auric souls"

gritty kraken
brazen swallow
robust osprey
full comet
#

Who is zeratros

distant smelt
#

Light dragon

robust osprey
#

Maxie Zeratros

brazen swallow
#

crazy

distant smelt
robust osprey
#

zeratros has negative aura imagine getting no diffed by a random alien lmao

distant smelt
#

My brother in christ he is the final boss of the base game

brazen swallow
#

tbf that alien has like 7 eyes that shoot lasers

wanton pendant
distant smelt
#

“Gave”

robust osprey
#

we dont know if they gave them

brazen swallow
robust osprey
#

it could be, it could be not

wanton pendant
#

How it was given is up for question.

brazen swallow
#

yharim claims xeroc stole it

wanton pendant
#

For instance, stealing.

robust osprey
#

but yharim is biased

distant smelt
#

Tbf that part is probably accurate

wanton pendant
#

Yharim was only fighting the woke he's is completely innocent.

robust osprey
#

no it isnt his ass wasnt even born when xeroc ascended

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he got the info via the most biased source of information

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yharon

wanton pendant
#

Plot twist: Yharon made up his backstory so people would feel bad for him.

distant smelt
#

Funniest ending

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Yharim would have a heart attack

gritty kraken
#

Do we know if xeroc mask was auric or just regular gold

robust osprey
#

I think they arent auric attuned, not sure tho

wanton pendant
#

It was made for aura farming if that helps.

manic coral
#

i mean like gold would be a little weak of a metal for something of their standing

robust osprey
#

tru

wanton pendant
#

It's lead with gold paint (lead based.)

brazen swallow
wanton pendant
#

Leadpoisoningmaxxing.

robust osprey
#

it's clearly yellow luminite

manic coral
#

xeroc fucking dies from lead poisoning

brazen swallow
#

hell yeah

distant smelt
#

Its made of frozen spelunker potions

brazen swallow
brazen swallow
wanton pendant
#

Xeroc's mask is Orichalcum, obviously.

robust osprey
#

bad ending xeroc somehow loses auric attunement mid fight and their face gets auric rejected

brazen swallow
wanton pendant
#

Not the pink armour!

icy veldt
robust osprey
#

thats me

distant smelt
#

I wonder what yharim would think of betsy

robust osprey
#

Maxie goddess of lead

robust osprey
distant smelt
#

Thats why i said would instead of just thinks

robust osprey
#

if she was he would respect her but not that much since she isnt auric

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I think

wanton pendant
robust osprey
#

or maybe nothing at all

distant smelt
brazen swallow
#

the interaction would be like
"hi yharim from terraria calamity mod"
"omg it's betsy from dungeon defenders hi"

split mortar
#

Betsy would be presumed to be an offshoot snd so treated like a fishron or folly or wyvern

#

Probably

wanton pendant
robust osprey
brazen swallow
distant smelt
#

Peam

robust osprey
#

goddess of léad

manic coral
# manic coral xeroc fucking dies from lead poisoning

anyways breaking free from newfound porject monn autism to work on writing for cal before silksong comes out, today on stuff cei writes instead of what's actually mandatory for SSO: "wouldn't it be funny if during calamitas' overhauled introduction as a non-hostile NPC, where you could assume she came back to fight you again, and go down a dialogue path about wishing she did and then being able to immediatly refight her from that"

wanton pendant
#

What?

icy veldt
#

She should ask something like "Are you sure?" before the refight

manic coral
#

i feel a need to write shonen protagonist tier dialogue branches like this sometimes

robust osprey
#

Scal + permafrost superboss when

distant smelt
wanton pendant
#

What's a 'shonen'?

robust osprey
#

anime gender

wanton pendant
#

Goku?

brazen swallow
robust osprey
#

yes, goku

distant smelt
#

Shonen protag
Gotta be one of my favorite genders

wanton pendant
#

Goku! :)

void jasper
#

hey! its me goku!

manic coral
#

yeha goku being the exact archetype who'd do something like that

wanton pendant
#

I'm still trying to parse what you said give me a minute.

icy veldt
#

Lieutenant Titus from Space Marine II or something idk

manic coral
#

meet again with somebody who tried to kill him, and be dissapointed when they don't want to just fight again

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and aks if they can fight again

brazen swallow
#

draedon NEEDS dialogue like "hey it's me, draedon! I've heard you're pretty strong"

distant smelt
#

Goku wouldn’t ask if you’re sure he’d just immediately power up

manic coral
#

no goku is a nice boy he would ask

void jasper
#

thx for the idea

wanton pendant
#

So are you saying after getting Calamitas as an NPC you can talk to her and ask if she came to fight you?

brazen swallow
icy veldt
#

IIRC the SSO update will have newfangled dialogue trees for NPCs

manic coral
#

no before town npc, how it'll work is that she'll go away after the fight

brazen swallow
#

I can't imagine draedon talking nicely with emotions like goku
it's just too funny

manic coral
#

and come bakc like a day later as a friendly npc but not a town npc

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somewhere in the outer thirds of the generated world

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if you actually want her in one of your towns you'll have to invite her

icy veldt
#

Looking at the new world that you've built, I assume?

robust osprey
#

"hey I heard there is some nice cave down there"

wanton pendant
#

When are they adding homeless Calamitas pre fighting her.

#

So you can laugh at her if you're evil.

robust osprey
manic coral
void jasper
#

Hey so uhh this guy is my friend and how about i make him voice draedon trust

distant smelt
#

Laughing at calamitas causes her to not only start a fight but immediately enrage

wanton pendant
#

That's too bad, you know our favourite activity is tormenting the homeless.

manic coral
#

anyways it's so funny how i went "ok i need to break away from my newfound project moon autism and work on calamity stuff again for a while"

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and then immedaitly

icy veldt
manic coral
#

silksong in two weeks

wanton pendant
#

What's a Project Moon?

icy veldt
#

The opposite of Reject Sun

manic coral
#

on one hand i cant be mad. on the other hand this is gonna destroy my productivity

void jasper
#

studio that makes peak games

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i would say

distant smelt
brazen swallow
wanton pendant
#

I don't need to worry about that much, they only make games in my favourite series every decade.

manic coral
#

but yes after finishing canto 8 in limbus is was gonna go back to cal writing but started lobotomy corperation instead

robust osprey
#

deltarune silksong and sso in the same year

wanton pendant
#

I've heard of that...

void jasper
#

True torture

brazen swallow
#

wait what's sso?

manic coral
#

am not too far in only bene playing for like two days, am on Day 15

wanton pendant
#

Sunken Sea Overhaul.

brazen swallow
#

ohhh

#

I see I see

robust osprey
#

they should add my cat in SSO

dusk laurel
#

is your cat friendly

wanton pendant
#

No.

robust osprey
#

depends on the weather

wanton pendant
#

It's evil and messed up.

brazen swallow
robust osprey
#

attacks if it's not raining

void jasper
#

roblox premium at its finest

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prob gonna cancel it tho

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Cuz of "drama"

icy veldt
wanton pendant
#

Honestly the better question is what the hell is Calamitas doing during the game.

icy veldt
#

Scavenging for food

robust osprey
#

eating rocks

wanton pendant
#

Bubsy is back.

manic coral
#

oh also the OFF remake that came out like

#

a week ago

#

which i still need to play

wanton pendant
robust osprey
#

stolen

manic coral
void jasper
manic coral
#

depends on how i feel

brazen swallow
wanton pendant
#

Wait, guys, is 'Champagne' ever mentioned in Terraria or Calamity?

void jasper
icy veldt
robust osprey
#

Scal eats cheese

distant smelt
wanton pendant
#

Please I need Calamitas lore I need it in my veins!

wanton pendant
icy veldt
#

What if Calamitas used Draedon's cloning tube to make a second clone of herself, that she took back to her cave to use as food? XD You will never unread this

robust osprey
#

guys

void jasper
#

MY EBMEDS

wanton pendant
void jasper
#

GIVE ME MY BEMBED

robust osprey
#

laugh at this user

brazen swallow
#

gifs fail to embed in this server every single time lmfao

wanton pendant
#

That would be an awful idea.

icy veldt
wanton pendant
#

She's weak to poison!

distant smelt
void jasper
#

ima go play undertale

#

for bit

icy veldt
wanton pendant
brazen swallow
#

yharim i remember you're genocides

void jasper
#

yes i cant read

#

I cant even see what your saying

icy veldt
void jasper
#

It looks like gibberish

icy veldt
#

Well 960,000 in normal mode, so almost 1 million

wanton pendant
#

Normal mode is the easy mode.

#

So we can discount it.

distant smelt
icy veldt
#

Ah, good

wanton pendant
#

Revengeance is the most reasonable look at stats.

brazen swallow
#

isn't that the canon difficulty?

wanton pendant
brazen swallow
#

ye

void jasper
#

actually how cool would it be if i just make bosses remember your previous runs

#

Like if u killed them 5 times in a row

#

Even if on different worlds and etc

wanton pendant
#

Calamity isn't a meta narrative.

#

Calamitas will not turn towards the screen and say "I saw what you guys say about me on the internet."

void jasper
#

Its just an easter egg tho

#

dialogue change

#

nothing much/

brazen swallow
#

it'd be cool if xeroc did that

wanton pendant
#

It wouldn't make any sense and it would make lore discussion somehow more insane.

brazen swallow
#

it would be the only one that makes sense I think

wanton pendant
#

We already get people asking if Devourer of Gods devourers gods.

void jasper
#

He devourers mcchickens

wanton pendant
#

We don't need people asking about remembering genocides.

void jasper
#

trust

void jasper
#

whatever u say doc

icy veldt
#

"Tarkus, do you remember when Chapter Master Kyras came to Kronus, after the final victory?"

brazen swallow
#

xeroc says "terrarian i remember you're genocides" and then gaster walks in from behind him

void jasper
#

Xeroc is filled with DETERMINATION

wanton pendant
#

'I'm Wing Gaster, I made the Calamity.'

icy veldt
#

I remember: you are genocides!

void jasper
#

now xeroc will just oneshot you no matter what

#

0 dodging trust

icy veldt
#

And then Terrarian was genocides

wanton pendant
#

Not unless I pull out the holy fire extinguisher of Antioch.

brazen swallow
void jasper
#

why is this dead

devout stratus
#

quick question, why do we kill aquatic scourge

#

isnt it a peaceful creature that we just randomly attack

dusk laurel
#

you choose to

devout stratus
#

we kill a random peaceful aquatic creature

#

for fun

dusk laurel
#

AS is an optional boss and whenever it spawns naturally you have to strike it first

devout stratus
#

based terrarian

#

i hate the ecosystem

long bloom
#

real

brazen swallow
devout stratus
#

i love draedon

#

didnt he make pbg

brazen swallow
#

yeah

devout stratus
#

like from a queen bee

#

based i love pbg

brazen swallow
#

real

devout stratus
#

whats the lore behind hell armored bones

brazen swallow
#

old azafure soldiers probably?

devout stratus
#

im gonna go yharim mode if i see one ever again

robust osprey
#

all skeletons are yharim's victims who got trapped in Gay Baby Jail

#

so it's likely not azafurian me thinks

#

probably random skeleton powered by plant's souls or something

scenic olive
#

You decide if you kill AS

#

or spare it

devout stratus
#

submarine shocker too good

#

sry aqua 💔

devout stratus
scenic olive
#

Man that emoji is gone

devout stratus
#

it would be funny if you could chose to kill scal

#

just because i like killing things

#

then boom all the scal content is locked

#

who needs enchants anyway

robust osprey
#

permafrost would instakill you

#

so thats not an option

devout stratus
#

let him come at me

wanton pendant
#

That's mean! :(

devout stratus
#

he wants a fight i'll give him one

robust osprey
#

supreme permafrost..

devout stratus
#

permafrost.. i remember my getfixedbois..

#

then after i kill him i team up with yharim after telling him "my b" for killing his pet dragon (he'll rebirth anyway)

#

i share his vision

brazen swallow
# scenic olive or spare it

when you fall in terraria yharim appears in front of you and says "it's kill or be killed" but then the guide scares him off and oh wait wrong game

devout stratus
brazen swallow
#

real

frosty charm
#

what happened to brimmy again

#

after the azafure fiasco

wanton pendant
frosty charm
#

i see

#

so were all/enough to cause an extinction of the azafurians killed in the fight

hoary cape
#

well i would imagine some still live if scal and the guide survived

frosty charm
#

alright that works

hoary cape
#

though not sure if the guide was there when it fell or if he had already left

frosty charm
#

was brimmy like a demigod or something (didnt consume a soul but isnt really a natural thing) or what

hoary cape
#

she is an elemental

frosty charm
#

oh right

#

in the name

#

uhhh how do they come around though

#

do they just kinda appear whenever

wanton pendant
#

They just exist I guess?

#

They're living embodiments of the components of life.

#

Including Life.

#

It's not unreasonable to assume the devastation could be up to 'everyone present except Calamitas and Brimstone died', but obviously even then the entire population of Azafure weren't all at home at the time.

hoary cape
#

i do wonder if brimmy can actually be killed permanently or if silva is the only one that can't because she is the life elemental

wanton pendant
#

Obviously, there could be survivors that were there we don't know about.

frosty charm
#

i see
cause yeah i was thinking either protag 2 (story talk yaaawnn) was either kind of willed into life by the azafurians, or if they're just a random one that decided "i want revenge"

wanton pendant
#

I think it's that so long as their element exists they're unkillable.

#

So Silva needs all living things to die.

hoary cape
#

brimmy was like their benevolent protector that just randomly woke up one day and decided to throw hands

wanton pendant
#

Brimstone would need heat to just not exist.

#

Anahita would need water to stop existing.

frosty charm
wanton pendant
#

Cloud would need everything to become a vacuum.

#

Sand needs earth to not exist. Good luck with that.

hoary cape
#

we should theorize what set brimmy off

frosty charm
wanton pendant
#

She hates broke people and was after Calamitas specifically.

frosty charm
#

or they were just grumpy when waking up uhhh i dunno!

hoary cape
#

brimmy woke up saw the tax collector and had to obliterate everyone

frosty charm
#

fair

wanton pendant
#

Humourously, tax collector implies Terrarian can perform a perfect resurrection but chooses to only perform it on tax collectors because they're evil.

frosty charm
#

hey no other resurrected souls are giving me 5 plat a day

wanton pendant
#

Obviously, the real reason is because tax collectors don't have souls.

#

Thus easy to ressurect.

#

Can't come back wrong if you're already a flesh puppet.

ivory vigil
#

Is there any lore on why dreadon dumped his trash in the ocean right above the Abyss? Or did he just do it there to be funny

hoary cape
#

More space

wanton pendant
#

It was convenient, already polluted and he probably wanted to see what would happen.

hoary cape
#

That is true sulphurous sea already kinda existed thanks to azafure

ivory vigil
#

I keep fucking his name up it's Draedon not Dreadon

#

But this dude fucking saw a poluted ocean and thought "might as well join in"

wanton pendant
#

Dreadon is his evil cousin.

#

Dreamdon is his good cousin.

ivory vigil
#

Dreadon is an accountant

hoary cape
#

What about Dron

wanton pendant
#

Illegitimate uncle.

ivory vigil
#

Dron just appeared one day and no one could get him to leave

distant smelt
wanton pendant
#

No, that's Yharim's YouTube channel.

frosty charm
#

do you think xeroc even gaf about yharim

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since he's like uncontested top 1 in the verse and has more important things to worry about i think it'd be funny if he just didn't care abt yharim

ivory vigil
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He'd at least know of yharim

frosty charm
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yeah i know

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but would he even like

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humour a fight

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or just "i have better things to do goodbye"

hoary cape
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Yharim obviously tried to duel xeroc clueless

frosty charm
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xeroc 2-0d him and blasted the message of yharim being a fraud to everyones minds and that started the crusade

crisp kite
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What is the latest version of the lore doc?

long bloom
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elaborate

eager bluff
crisp kite
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Ah shit im stupid, tysm

nimble mantle
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If a postal dude asks every calamity character to sign his petition, would they?

long bloom
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permafrost would, draedon might, calamitas would light him on fire

mighty zenith
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why would she do that

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she'd likely just, ignore him

cloud ibex
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draedon would get like

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incredibly interrogative about the nature of the petition

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but not because he's suspicious or anything it'd be out of genuine curiosity

pliant ruin
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well its less a headcanon more like just flanderization atp

cloud ibex
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hopefully it'll die down a bit once her rewritten dialogue drops

mighty zenith
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i cant believe the new update RUINED calamitas' character

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i HATE the lore

dusk laurel
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the new update added too much nonsense lore who even reads it anyways smh my head 🙄

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who is amidias and why does he sound like amidas

mighty zenith
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amidias is the king of the sunken sea

cloud ibex
frosty charm
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Why does anyone do anything? Because it's cool

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Also what's Calamitas' new character like cause I want to not butcher her in writing

cloud ibex
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cheese

frosty charm
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Noted she is now a giant rat who has cheese magic

cloud ibex
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@pliant ruin

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cheese

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she is literally jane calamity mod

frosty charm
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What

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What do those combination of words mean

pliant ruin
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shes just a girl

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unironically shes just a girl shes just like casual

cloud ibex
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cheese is calamitas

pliant ruin
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im jane calamity mod

frosty charm
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Ok so just scour through their messages

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Got it

pliant ruin
# pliant ruin unironically shes just a girl shes just like casual

Alot of people write her as "I H ATE PEOPLE !!! LEAVE ME ALONE" and this is kind of the flanderization i mentioned earlier when its more like just. yeah shes kind of introverted but if someone invites her to a party she'll probably go but just like stand on the back drinking soda or something

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Also she is very much the traumatized pstd creature but another thing people kinda flanderize in that regard is that they write her as like. a girlfailure loser who can't do anything and who gets scared really easily and blehhh

frosty charm
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Ok so uhh is a generally chill dude with somewhat lingering trauma a good enough characterization

pliant ruin
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She'll be Fine as long as Yharim dosen't come knocking on her door at 3 am

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at which point yeah panic attack probably

frosty charm
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Do you think she'd be the type of person to support someone similar to her (y'know just doing way worse)

pliant ruin
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She's generally trying to be a good person to make up for The Horrors

frosty charm
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Cool since I plan on putting mine through the wringer 😈

mighty zenith
pliant ruin
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gold hitler

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🔥

frosty charm
cloud ibex
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if i saw hitler at my front door i would just push him down the stairs the dude would be like

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140 years old by now

pliant ruin
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its like you spin a gacha and its like. CONGRATULATIONS! you got SILVER HITLER (RARE!)

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and then youre like

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WOAH GUYS NO WAY

cloud ibex
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his ass is not surviving a gentle breeze

mighty zenith
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unfortunately you cant push yharim down the stairs

pliant ruin
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I GOT GOLD HITLER (LEGENDARY!!!!!!)

frosty charm
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Byeah my biggest worry in the story is absolutely butchering the characters since I do want to respect the source

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Kind of why I'm stressing how to handle Yharims death since for the story's sake he does gotta die but I don't want it to feel like a spit in the face to the actual character

cloud ibex
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still a big fan of how 99% of automod triggers for the word hitler are this channel talking about yharim

dusk laurel
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insane

pliant ruin
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my silver hitler and gold hitler messages will be forever in automod now