lore-discussion

[pliant ruin]

But like

that's not my point

My point is that devourer is dead before Yharon is so like

[languid badge]

ok thats probably not true you can sorta justify it but like
its like if human society forgot how to make a fax machine in 70 years

[wheat walrus]

Human society wasn't halved in that time gng

[deft comet]

But the distortion is still a thing regardless of DoG's death, and Noxus could get the soul sometime between us fighting Yharon and Yharim

or even after

[wheat walrus]

I get your sentiment tho

[languid badge]

how do you know what will happen in 70 years

[pliant ruin]

Unless Noxus itself (The distortion creature Devourer serves with like 99% guarantee) can just come in and absorb the essence itself or it can just send other creatures to absorb it there wouldn't really be any way to do so

At which point its just like. Well if it can just do it himself or send other things to do it what's even the point of all this scheming iwth the Devourer

Why does the Devourer Exist if he can just Do It Himself

[cloud ibex]

Yharim has been making sure that no records of how to do the ritual remain

[pliant ruin]

Or just. send other distortion Goons to do it

[wheat walrus]

I'm from the future

I know

[cloud ibex]

And there isn’t exactly a big sample size to test the ritual on anymore

[languid badge]

ah my bad then

did they ever finally pull the plug on the simpsons

[wheat walrus]

No

[cloud ibex]

So being able to rediscover the ritual seems very unlikely

[languid badge]

figures

[wheat walrus]

We also don't have flying cars

[languid badge]

so you're saying we lost flying cars

[wheat walrus]

No

[deft comet]

Because Yharim willingly let DoG consume god souls with no fight back with the thought the souls were gone, if Noxus revealed itself there was a chance there would be a fight while the fight was still somewhat losable

[wheat walrus]

I'm just saying they never made them

[languid badge]

I mean we have flying cars today

they just arnt practical

[wheat walrus]

But they made hawk tri 2 years from now

[pliant ruin]

Yeah but that dosen't change what i said

What's the purpose of Devourer's existence then. By the same logic Noxus could've just accomplished the same exact thing

[wheat walrus]

Yharim still hasn't released in my present

[deft comet]

I mean if Noxus is, like Draedon says like DoG a part of the hivemind they may serve different purposes

[wheat walrus]

Shen Gaoren returned to MH

[pliant ruin]

Yeah and DoG's purpose is... absorbing essence

[wheat walrus]

Call of Duty is still releasing slop

[deft comet]

yeah for the hivemind and Noxus may be the channeling of that essence

[pliant ruin]

Yeah in which case Noxus wouldn't just show up and absorb Yharon's soul because that's Devourer's job and he's dead

[wheat walrus]

They tried to release Ark 2 but it became sentient from Snail Games and took over China, which messed the economy

But on the lighter side, Fabsol is still unemployed

[wheat walrus]

He also might go to jail since he mentioned Calamity in his job app

[pliant ruin]

has the reign of yharim demo released yet

[languid badge]

how loreful

[meager prism]

Imagine if the noxus fight was just purple perforators

[deft comet]

Its possible DoG was made to circumvent the ascension ritual in a way Noxus couldnt lessening the risk

[languid badge]

scope creepd I fear

[pliant ruin]

fabsol

[wheat walrus]

It became the Gunlands and you play as a Melon with a Gun

[pliant ruin]

sad

[deft comet]

I just think it would be weird for the rebirth soul to be ignored after we kill Yharon

[real silo]

Why

[wheat walrus]

Yharon is what Silva is to the gods, but to the dragons

ig

[cloud ibex]

It could be a sick little background detail in Yharim’s arena

[deft comet]

Its the last Dragon soul it seems kinda important

[wheat walrus]

They'll both return

[cloud ibex]

Iunno about that one

[wheat walrus]

And be the only ones to witness true eternity, ig

[real silo]

It is important

But what will anyone do about it

[deft comet]

I was about to say that, maybe we take it and return the dragons with it on the essence of the gods?

[wheat walrus]

I mean in the sense that they're "dead", but will return and continue kicking for as long as we could imagine and more

[real silo]

Yharim would hunt their ass if they try to get his soul

[deft comet]

It seems weird to have the soul of rebirth be the last one and not be used in some narrative manner to rebirth something

[pliant ruin]

dude that'd

how to kil all of the meaning of a story entirely and make everything that happened have no impact

[cloud ibex]

The dragons cannot be brought back

[wheat walrus]

Amoosing convo

[real silo]

If yharon could just rebirth dragons from god essence then there wouldn't have been a problem with gods ascending

[deft comet]

idk maybe we destroy the soul instead of ascending with it and end the age of divinity

[cloud ibex]

Their souls got turned into godly souls that then exploded because Yharim put all the gods in a wood chipper

[pliant ruin]

why would we

whar

[real silo]

The age of divinity ended already

yharim ended it

[deft comet]

end of the last soul idk what to call the era

[pliant ruin]

there's like other gods still alive and shit

silva and xeroc exist

and also like idk man

[wheat walrus]

The dragons are not returning, forcing the past into the present is futile, and that's basically the most important message of the mod.

[pliant ruin]

i think youre way too attached to the idea that something will happen with yharon'js soul

[mighty zenith]

its actually this

[pliant ruin]

hi garbo

[wheat walrus]

Yharim trying to do so, but ultimately bringing so much more destruction than just not doing anything, and gaining nothing from it, is there to drive that point in fully

[mighty zenith]

hii

[wheat walrus]

Garbo nuke

[deft comet]

I mean we are going to the Aerie after we kill Yharon I would assume where he is right now

[cloud ibex]

I feel like trying to destroy Yharon’s soul to “end” the age of dragons or whatever implies that the age of dragons or gods is still going at this point

But it’s not

[pliant ruin]

one could call this a

age of calamity !

[wheat walrus]

The only living dragon is Yharon, the only living gods are Xeroc and Silva

[cloud ibex]

Yharim and Yharon cling on to the past like the dragons could still return but they can’t

Their time has passed and the two of them refuse to accept it

[wheat walrus]

There is 1 god more than the dragons, but this is effectively the age of neither at this point

[deft comet]

Yes so ending them both would be bringing on the age of humanity or whatever

So destroying the soul of rebirth makes sense

Since we are also going to the Aerie

[pliant ruin]

why would you end silva and xeroc

theyre just like

chill

[wheat walrus]

We're in the age of ???

[cloud ibex]

You don’t get what I mean

[mighty zenith]

but what does it actually change

[pliant ruin]

yeah its not

changing anything

[cloud ibex]

Their age is over already

There is nothing to end

[real silo]

None of them rule the world so it won't change anything

[pliant ruin]

its just like me when i kill silva because im bored or something

[wheat walrus]

Stone after the age of stone ends

[real silo]

Xeroc doesn't rule the world
Silva doesn't
Yharon doesn't either

[cloud ibex]

Making a big deal out of ending Yharon forever would be validating his belief that the age of the dragons hasn’t ended yet

[mighty zenith]

ironically, the most influential (not necessarily in a positive way) man in the world was human

[wheat walrus]

Yea

[pliant ruin]

it'd also just be, again
Why Tho
Unless you're doing it because he's a evil bastard and he keeps trying to be a evil bastard after you kill him in which case yeah i guess it's fair to put him down for good

[real silo]

Yharim an influencer damn

[wheat walrus]

Yharim by far has had the greatest impact in modern history in cal, and singlehandedly too since most other big events are way more chain-like rather than 1 man going out of his way to do everything

[pliant ruin]

hes just like me!

follow my twitch

go follow it now

self promotion

[real silo]

follow my witch

🪄

[pliant ruin]

find my pages

[wheat walrus]

Imma unfollow it

[mighty zenith]

banned

[pliant ruin]

you guys are so mean 2 me

[mighty zenith]

caaaw

[cloud ibex]

I have followed

😁

[pliant ruin]

yaay

oh wait you're the 24th follower

heyyyy

[deft comet]

I mean Yharon is Yharims second in command and closest friend if we kill Yharim dont we have the most reason to kill Yharon out of those?

[pliant ruin]

thats one of the requirements for affiliate

yepppp

moeny soon

im making bank guys

[wheat walrus]

I shall steal your income

[real silo]

He's second in command to jack shit

[deft comet]

And Yharon has shown he will go to great lengths to enact revenge like you know helping Yharim do the god killing crusade

[real silo]

All of yharim's followers are dead

[deft comet]

Then why kill Yharim either?

[pliant ruin]

I mean yeah like

I do think theres a valid reason to want to

[wheat walrus]

Everyone, say the line with me:

The Terrarian's lore is up to you

[pliant ruin]

put Yharon down for good

he's evil as fuck yeah

but like Silva and Xeroc?

Idk man they're just like

sitting there

[deft comet]

Silva is still not in a state of full being alive

[pliant ruin]

not yet but she'll be Eventually ™

[mighty zenith]

but she will be

[deft comet]

Is it even possible to kill Silva?

Well yeah

[pliant ruin]

Don't think you really can tbh

[wheat walrus]

If we wanna go by dev statements then you need to kill all living things to kill Silva

[mighty zenith]

its not really feasible for one person to do so

[deft comet]

but for right now there isnt much the player could do to kill Silva

[pliant ruin]

neither Xeroc and Silva can really be killed so good thing they're not like evil

[mighty zenith]

but also why would you do that

Yharon at least attacks you and is generally a psycho

[deft comet]

Why are we set on killing yharim?

[wheat walrus]

Feeling like it

[pliant ruin]

because Yharim is like really evil

[mighty zenith]

silva does nothing negative for you

in fact she gives you stuff

[pliant ruin]

Whatever specific motivations you may have for it is

up to you

[wheat walrus]

YES

[cloud ibex]

Yharim looked at Silva going “blehhhh :P” and decided “this motherfucker needs to perish”

[deft comet]

Do we know what gods sentenced yharim to death for not taking Yharon's soul?

[cloud ibex]

No

[mighty zenith]

nope

[pliant ruin]

Probalby evil biome gods though

[mighty zenith]

most likely they now belong to the evil biomes but we dunno

[pliant ruin]

Like

[wheat walrus]

They're dead now tho das what we know

[pliant ruin]

They were explicitly the first he took down

and i mean

theyre evil

[deft comet]

Well yeah I get that

And if they wanted Yharim to serve over them then its likely Xeroc was out of the picture no? Cause Xeroc's soul is more powerful than the soul of rebirth right?

[pliant ruin]

. Actually this is public i guess so

Xeroc did not have anything to do with it

I guess i can say the funny now given what Stip said

I already knew this but wasn't sure if it was public but guess it is !

Anyways given that the God of Dogma was the seeming main driving force behind the sect/cult of gods that wanted Yharim to be their god-king

[cloud ibex]

Xeroc seems to just be doing their own thing

[pliant ruin]

And knowing that God of Dogma is apparently the main "core god" of hive mind

[cloud ibex]

Most people don’t seem to even know they exist at all

[pliant ruin]

yeah everything is this things fault

congratulations everyone everything that happens in calamity is because of the brain of chtulhu recolor. gg

[deft comet]

Yeah it makes sense the god above the rebirth power would not be in on making a god less powerful than them lead over them

[cloud ibex]

No I mean

Xeroc just doesn’t seem to have ever really involved themselves in whatever the hell is going on on the planet

[pliant ruin]

Xeroc is just kind of doing his own thing
He's not really seemingly working with anyone else and if he wanted to actively rule over others he'd have a very easy time doing so given hes comically strong

[cloud ibex]

If they did, someone other than Yharim would probably be aware of their existence

[mighty zenith]

calamity lore if the god of dogma just said "oh okay" when yharim rejected the soul

[pliant ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/mundo-feliz-onetreehsll-world-if-gif-14071235670792471304

garbo can you make a poll in mod chat to give cool dudes embed perms in lore chat thanks

[mighty zenith]

no

[pliant ruin]

im like the only perso who uses them anyways i only do it for funny reaction images

[mighty zenith]

[pliant ruin]

come on man

thatsso fucked up dude

[mighty zenith]

caaaw

[pliant ruin]

thought we had a bond and stuff you qwere the bird i was the celeste

[mighty zenith]

bird up

[manic coral]

garbo STINKS like garbage

:/

[mighty zenith]

shut up ice

[manic coral]

no

[real silo]

cie

[deft comet]

Also quesiton what perspecitve is the bestiary from?

[manic coral]

shut your pie hole robot liker

[wheat walrus]

Omniscient

Like me

[real silo]

eggcelent

[pliant ruin]

Yeah the bestiary is just not any character in particular

[wheat walrus]

Garbo likes clankers 😔

[mighty zenith]

damn... hard r and all...

gonna have to ban u now...

[real silo]

calnka

[deft comet]

I was just curious if it can be taken at face value

[pliant ruin]

Pretty much yeah

It's not written by any actual characters so everything it says is kind of just True

[wheat walrus]

Take it at back value bruh

[pliant ruin]

No biases or anything here

[manic coral]

i considered a first person bestiary at first but decided that wouldn't be that practical given (refer to The Image)

[deft comet]

Specifically for the Perennial slime entry because it mentions the reimprisionment of Silva but who could have imprisioned Silva before Yharim

[young socket]

you

the

you

is you

if you

you

thats you!

[wheat walrus]

spam

[manic coral]

thanks tsuki very cool

[pliant ruin]

its ok were doing this on roy

🙏

[mighty zenith]

DEMON...

[wheat walrus]

I'm actually killing you

[pliant ruin]

why

[real silo]

Is roy a place to dump scrapped dev ideas

[wheat walrus]

Some acts are beyond redemption

[pliant ruin]

no the roy bestiary was made before

it just makes sense

[mighty zenith]

the subject is NOT you you fucking idiot

[pliant ruin]

given yknow

roy has an actual protagonist

not the terrarian who is you who is a blank slate

[wheat walrus]

😔

Anti-Melon Gun game

[real silo]

Anti spiral vs anti melon gun

[mighty zenith]

pomegranate launcher

[wheat walrus]

Pear

[mighty zenith]

i wonder if there's a pomegrenade plant in pvz 2

[real silo]

What is this some kind of cabbage pult

[mighty zenith]

theres like 30000 of those

[pliant ruin]

melon gun

sorry the fog is taking over. sorry

[wheat walrus]

Pear

[real silo]

Fewr

[wheat walrus]

Pear

Pear...

I'm a pear

[cloud ibex]

the rot

i left for like five minutes and the convo turns into this,,,,,,,

[real silo]

wiggles your pears

If yharon's soul was consumer by someone they would become a god of recycling

Their ability will just be recycler risk of rain

[deft comet]

Risk of rain mentioned RAHHH wtf is a bad soundtrack

[split mortar]

What the fuck

[split mortar]

The fog
Looks inside
Just my fucking name

[wanton pendant]

Also, the soul of rebirth being the last one is important to the story; it's the reason there was a soul for Yharim to be given in the first place for him to reject, thus learning about the dragons and starting the crusade.

[crisp saffron]

Wait but when yharim entered the aether did yharon join him

[wanton pendant]

Does it matter?

[crisp saffron]

Or is he stuck in terraria

[cloud ibex]

You mean the Aerie?

[wanton pendant]

I'd imagine Yharon can go there whenever he pleases.

[crisp saffron]

Yeah sorry

[mighty zenith]

well it is the dragon aerie

would kinda suck if dragons couldnt enter and leave at will

[wanton pendant]

It's more unusual Yharim can get there. He found a way to enter.

[crisp saffron]

I thought it was like an after life

[wanton pendant]

We'll probably have to recreate his method.

It's not.

[crisp saffron]

Ok

[split mortar]

Theres no afterlife in calamity that we know of

[wanton pendant]

It's where Dragons live and Respawn.

Also by the sound of it where Zeratros' grave is, since that's what I assume 'Grave of the light' refers to.

[crisp saffron]

As long as yharon lives every dragon can return

[wanton pendant]

No.

Their souls are gone.

[split mortar]

Dragons cant come back if used to god ascend

[wanton pendant]

Reduced to atoms.

[split mortar]

So only yharon is left

[crisp saffron]

So without auric souls they can't return

[wanton pendant]

Yes.

[split mortar]

Yeah the soul gets consumed in god ascension

No more soul to bring back

[crisp saffron]

So the dragon itself doesn't exist anymore

Damn

[split mortar]

Yup effectively

[wanton pendant]

Most things don't exist if you eat their soul yes.

[crisp saffron]

There arent even any bodies tho

[split mortar]

Yeah corpses rotted away

[wanton pendant]

And their magic bones likely used in all manner of rituals by weirdos.

[crisp saffron]

Well thanks for answering my questions then

[crisp saffron]

I Understand more now

[split mortar]

👍

[icy veldt]

Like making fancy dragon-broth soup

[split mortar]

Mana stored in bones that would be good to use for rituals

[crisp saffron]

So the dragon cult in the dungeon prolly uses those

[wanton pendant]

Nah the dragon cult loves dragons.

They'd make shrines to their bones.

[crisp saffron]

But wouldnt they try to revive a dragon

[wanton pendant]

They do.

Don't know how.

[crisp saffron]

I think bones would be a catalyst

[wanton pendant]

The dragon souls are all gone.

But they might not know that, or care even.

They're lunatics, after all.

At least they got the Phantasmal Dragon...

[crisp saffron]

So does calamity negate the fact that they worship cthulu in base terraria

[wanton pendant]

Yes.

It's the opposite in Calamity.

[crisp saffron]

I see

[wanton pendant]

Also Moon Lord isn't Cthulhu in Calamity.

[crisp saffron]

Oh ok

Its funny how terraria decides to add a bit of lore into the game just to find out a mod changed everything

[wanton pendant]

Different continuity.

[crisp saffron]

Yeah

[split mortar]

Vanilla lore is completely separate to calamity lore

[crisp saffron]

I know it is

Just thought that cthulu and moon lord were the same

In calamity too

[zenith geode]

cthulhu doesn't exist in cal

[split mortar]

Snail

[zenith geode]

dude i was busy elaborating

[split mortar]

Snail

[zenith geode]

cal ml is a god, fovos

[split mortar]

No

Not god

[wanton pendant]

Some guy who likes to beat up dragons. From space.

May or may not have ended a civilization before.

Lover of onions.

[split mortar]

It invaded cause it wanted the onions

[crisp saffron]

But when a person ascends to godhood, does their power level exceed the power of the original dragon

[wanton pendant]

It would seem so.

[crisp saffron]

Cause ml injured zeratros

[split mortar]

It can and often does

[wanton pendant]

Xeroc is the most powerful living thing in the lore.

Prime Moon Lord is second.

Then it's Noxus, then Yharim.

Then our favourite homeless woman.

[split mortar]

Jared

Jared above her

[zenith geode]

where does jharim fall into this

[wanton pendant]

I believe in the homeless woman!

[summer spoke]

Are interludes some sort of messages from yharim? Or is it just a cool ass soundtrack to build up depth and importance of the killed foe?

[icy veldt]

I don't think Yharim is much of a musician

[split mortar]

Afaik just cool soundtrack
The lore whispers from the bosses are messages from yharim

[mighty zenith]

they weren't originally made to be part of the mod so

[wanton pendant]

It's called hype moments and aura.

Obviously Yharim will be playing his own theme song on an organ when we reach him.

[crisp saffron]

Tho its a shame DM dokuro left the project

[wanton pendant]

It's better this way, much less harassment for doing his job.

[crisp saffron]

True

[robust osprey]

the other musicians are peam

and dokuro still makes music thats also peam

[crisp saffron]

Also true

[split mortar]

Nebbie canon

[wanton pendant]

The Pokémon?

[split mortar]

Theres a pokemon called nebbie???????

[wanton pendant]

Nebby. Or Cosmog.

[split mortar]

Oh that

No

Not cosmog

[tropic oak]

dragons

[real silo]

Nebbie beloved

[split mortar]

Nebbie great

[visual kiln]

lea channel when

nebbie channel

[split mortar]

Lea channel when

[split mortar]

Nebbie already canon to calamity smh my head

[visual kiln]

nebbie channel tomorrow

[split mortar]

Gloomborf channel

[visual kiln]

wtf

oh ok

perishes instantly

[spring helm]

How are unholy arrows and unholy essence related

There must be something there!!!!

Actually it’s probably just because they both contain divine essence

[zenith geode]

theyre evil

[distant smelt]

Do we know which god created the evil biomes when they died

[zenith geode]

the god of something probably

[split mortar]

They are made of many gods
The hivemind is mainly comprised of god of dogma tho
Perferators are comprised mainly of god of war

[zenith geode]

got it

perfs are stronger than exos

[wanton pendant]

The God of Cotton Candy's guts were strewn about the trees of the Hallow.

[icy veldt]

So there's a god of war, who's evil. Was there also a god of strategy or sound tactical thought, like Minerva/Athena, as opposed to Mars/Ares?

[split mortar]

We dunno

[icy veldt]

darn

I was thinking there'd be one deity of the violent aspect of war, and another deity of the strategic aspect of it

[cloud ibex]

doubtful

feel like their domains would probably end up being too similar

[limpid saddle]

Yeah it'd be weird if there were 'sub-domains'

Especially given the transmutive process of an Auric Soul becoming a God Soul

The one dragon/god embodies the entire concept, not just bits & pieces of it

Think about how weird it would be if the Dragon of Storms had a cousin who was the Dragon of Typhoons or something

[icy veldt]

Fair enough. It made sense for historical pantheons like those of the Greeks and Romans, because those had a lot of gods, but I suppose it wouldn't really fit here

[robust osprey]

✅

[woeful hatch]

I mean, even there, Athena/Minerva was more like the goddess of wisdom in general, it just reflected on war as the strategic part of it, but she wasn't just "goddess of strategy"

[icy veldt]

Well yeah true. I just worded it poorly: "of" was the wrong preposition to use 😔

[wanton pendant]

Where's the God of Logistics?

[split mortar]

Draedon

[wanton pendant]

He's the Nerd of Machines.

[random mulch]

draedon is god of autism

[icy veldt]

The god that Draedon's creator worshipped, maybe?????????????????????????

[wanton pendant]

Once again, strapping nuclear weapons to bees is not a symptom of autism.

It's a symptom of being a maniac.

[random mulch]

it is if you're not a coward

[icy veldt]

Counterpoint: if I had nuclear weapons, I would 1000% strap them to bees

[wanton pendant]

Wanting to strap nuclear weapons to bees doesn't make you autistic.

[random mulch]

it does if you try hard enough

[split mortar]

Idk maybe you just lack the fun autism

[wanton pendant]

Screw you I am fun.

[split mortar]

True

[split mortar]

Yet you are against upgrading bees

[wanton pendant]

It's not an upgrade.

[random mulch]

nuclear bees is fun and good

[wanton pendant]

The bees are very arguably not alive afterwards.

[split mortar]

Still moving and functioning

[random mulch]

alive enough, they're good

[wanton pendant]

There should be a God of Bees to give Yharim a dilemma.

(The answer is kill.)

So if there was a God of Dogma, did he get his soul from the Dragon of Conviction or something?

[split mortar]

Idk
Dont think the info public

[wanton pendant]

Now I'm imagining the God of War got his from the Dragon of Violence.

Which I feel wouldn't have been the nicest chap.

[icy veldt]

God of War got his Auric soul from the Dragon of Petty Drama, which is arguably an improvement

[faint totem]

What

[wanton pendant]

What?

[random mulch]

typical calamity lore discussion, yknow

[wanton pendant]

It's not.

[icy veldt]

?tahW

[faint totem]

It kinda is

[wanton pendant]

What do you mean it kinda is???

[icy veldt]

Source: me if I had access to nuclear weapons

[faint totem]

I’ve walked into weirder conversations in this channel

[wanton pendant]

Fair, but that doesn't make weaponising bees a symptom of autism.

[split mortar]

Idk weaponising autism is a phrase i have heard

[faint totem]

It’s a symptom of MSS, but not autism

[wanton pendant]

Not what that means.

What's MSS?
I'm sure I've heard of MS.

[faint totem]

Mad Scientist Syndrome

[wanton pendant]

Ohh, then yes.

That's like, on page 4 of the diagnostic list.

It's a long list.

[faint totem]

I literally googled MSS just to make sure that it wasn’t an actual acronym for a mental disorder. All I found was something about networking

[wanton pendant]

Yeah, because MS is Multiple sclerosis, which has nothing to do with nuclear armed bees.

(Hopefully.)

[icy veldt]

Microsoft Sam

[wanton pendant]

You'll get 'em next time.

[icy veldt]

soisoisoisoisoisoisoisoi

[faint totem]

As opposed to Megahard Simon?

[icy veldt]

The TTS voice

[wanton pendant]

Why on earth would I know that.

[icy veldt]

I did not expect you to

Calm down

[wanton pendant]

Don't worry someone might get your next joke.

[icy veldt]

ok

[jaunty wraith]

Yharim: are you inhumane?! We cant use innocent bees as war weapons! That's barbaric

Also yharim: this traumatized 13 year old who lost everything will make a fine soldier

[mighty zenith]

👴

this conversation made me feel ancient

[wanton pendant]

You're old.

[wanton pendant]

Emotional manipulation is legally not the same as slavery.

[jaunty wraith]

Thats probably how he justified it to himself

[wanton pendant]

Like sure, she obeys him, is reliant on him for her needs, would implicitly be hunted down if she were to ever leave, but she doesn't have any chains so it's fine.

[hoary cape]

Yharim doesn't support slavery. This makes him a great guy

Just ignore his hundreds of crimes

[wanton pendant]

Exactly, he doesn't force anyone to work for him, it's just leaving him is on pain of death.

[mighty zenith]

its not slavery if you give them the illusion of choice

😊

[hoary cape]

Does yharim pay his people 🤔

[mighty zenith]

most likely yeah

[wanton pendant]

I'd assume so.

[mighty zenith]

he's a terrible person but he's also a smart leader

at least for the masses

[wanton pendant]

He studied military history, he knows about keeping morale up.

And what better way to get an enthusiastic army then a heavy salary.

That and defection equals death.

[split mortar]

Yeah really well

[icy veldt]

Where did Yharim get his funding for the early part of his crusade, before he started taxing anyone? He probably looted his early conquests, but was he also financed by any wealthy individuals?

[wanton pendant]

I'd assume at the start his followers joined due to zeal.

Later he began paying after esablishing a power base.

[split mortar]

Azafure was among the first to join no?

[wanton pendant]

Which would become his empire.

[icy veldt]

Azafure was probably pretty wealthy, just from its manufacturing industry

[wanton pendant]

They were arming him.

[icy veldt]

Well yeah they were doing that too

[wanton pendant]

It's possible they sold them to him, it's possible they were a gift.

But also likely a bunch of Azafurian's joined the crusade as they believed in the cause and didn't care for pay at first.

[icy veldt]

Azafure gave Yharim a Loyal Customer Discount

[wanton pendant]

Once he had a proper realm going, he'd have had to esablish a payroll. Would also allow him to expand the army.

Thus snowballing.

Eventually, he practically rules the world, and everyone left is powerless to do more then defend their borders.

[icy veldt]

Yeah, which is just horrifying

[wanton pendant]

(I'm being a bit hyperbolic, but you get the idea.)

I get the impression Ilmeris was a VERY long hold out.

And Calamitas was just a desperation move to finally beat them.

[icy veldt]

Seems like Yharim also had a bit of Genghis Khan in him

[wanton pendant]

Which worked very well.

He also gives me a strong Napoleon impression, if that means anything.

[split mortar]

Ilmeris was close to azafure yet only fell once calamitas wiped the country out

[icy veldt]

Just a bit, though

[wanton pendant]

Yeah, like, they were probably a powerhouse in their own right.

It's just that they weren't expansionist.

[icy veldt]

Same, as well as Alexander the Great

[wanton pendant]

If they were they'd probably be able to give Yharim a run for his money.

[wanton pendant]

Maybe if he lived longer...

[icy veldt]

True. Also Napoleon lived out the rest of his days in exile at St. Helena, the 1800's equivalent of a modern-day turnpike rest stop

[wanton pendant]

But like, the home of two gods, relatively close to one of Yharim's earliest and closest allies surviving right up to the dying decades of the crusade, you'd assume they were obscenely good at defence.

And based on bestiary entries I've seen, isolationist.

[spice torrent]

i love how Draedon really hates the name you gave Miracle Matter
but goes with it because you were able to stabilize it, and he respects that

[wanton pendant]

No, he dislikes Miracle Matter as a name.

He hates Skeletron Prime as a name.

[faint totem]

We are canonically bad at naming shit

[spice torrent]

absolutely

but Draedon is also terrible at naming things

he just gives them serial codes

[faint totem]

At least his aren’t dumb shit

[spice torrent]

and the name of a greek god

[spice torrent]

look at the lore names draedon has for the mech bosses

[wanton pendant]

Four of them, actually.

[split mortar]

They aint dumb names even if lacking in the creativity department

[icy veldt]

Draedon should just use UUIDs for everything

[spice torrent]

yeah draedon's just not very creative

i mean just look at the exo mechs

[icy veldt]

"This is 024c07d7-1761-443d-8bb5-43d09d3f8e8d. He is my most precious pookie"

[spice torrent]

reusing old assets

[wanton pendant]

Draedon should name them after his favourite games. Exo: League of Legends would be terrifying.

[icy veldt]

Nah Draedon would be into spreadsheet simulators like EVE Online, Factorio, Victoria II, etc

[split mortar]

Draedon plays factorio not lol

[cosmic zenith]

I hate my mouse

[split mortar]

Thank you stipulate

[icy veldt]

I saw that

[crimson junco]

stip I saw that

[wanton pendant]

Are you saying he doesn't play Victoria 3, only 2?

Also what one earth was that gif?

[icy veldt]

Correct. He prefers more complicated over even slightly less complicated

Graphics aren't an issue to him

[wanton pendant]

What about both at the same time.

[split mortar]

Draedon has made the oerfect route to always beat fnaf and do it in the least mouse movements

[wanton pendant]

Nobody likes playing Mario Party with him.

[cosmic zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/looks-to-the-moon-rain-world-videocult-good-night-moon-gif-9478635329786608855

[wanton pendant]

What is that thing?

[split mortar]

Stip vagueposting about rainworld

[icy veldt]

Appears to be some kind of robot

[wanton pendant]

Will Buddhism be integral to understanding how divorced Yharim is?

[split mortar]

No

[icy veldt]

Yharim was married at some point???

[split mortar]

Draedon

[wanton pendant]

The Yharim divorce arc is going to be crazy.

[cosmic zenith]

Yharim was actually married to Gorthus

Take notes loreheads

[wanton pendant]

Keyword, was.

[split mortar]

Calamitas happened and fried gorthus

[wanton pendant]

One hell of a breakup.

[glacial rampart]

where does gloomborf fall in this

[wanton pendant]

Officiator at their wedding.

[cosmic zenith]

Gloomborf was the reason they divorced

[glacial rampart]

he would NEVER

[cosmic zenith]

It was an accident

[wanton pendant]

Where's the furry divorce image when you need it.

[cosmic zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/furry-family-angry-gif-6456058555367413719

[glacial rampart]

LOL

[split mortar]

Yharim willingly let gloomborf be used to ascend slime god…

[cosmic zenith]

This is Gloomborf.....

[glacial rampart]

WHY DID YOU HAVE THAT ON SPEEDFIRE

[cosmic zenith]

You do realize there's gif search right

[wanton pendant]

There's a gif search!?

[split mortar]

Furry divorce gif

Its the second one

[cosmic zenith]

Jarvis, search "furry divorce gif"

https://tenor.com/view/jarvis-erase-gif-1159901542694943356

[wanton pendant]

The rest of the gifs don't really have divorce vibes.

https://tenor.com/view/yugioh-divorce-its-time-gif-21043942

Damn it.

It was a funny one though. So that's how people keep messing it up.

[tropic oak]

dragon

[magic epoch]

crusade

[icy veldt]

Horus Heresy

OH I JUST HAD A GAME THEORY: Yharim financed the early parts of his crusade by selling fake Dragon Oil as a scam

[heavy zenith]

I got a question: In the underworld Lore Item it says that Azafure simply burned when Yharim refused to meet their wishes. But we know that Azafure was destroyed by Cal vs BrimE, was azafure destroyed more than once or am I misunderstanding this

[somber wren]

That might be an old lore item

[cosmic zenith]

Azafure was, in fact, destroyed by Cal vs Brimmy

[plucky juniper]

That reminds me.

It pains me to say this even in hindsight, but their own artisanry paved the downfall of the entire city.

What does this mean?

[cosmic zenith]

The more domineering of Gods wished for me to champion their cause, and rule their society from here.
Yet, surrounded by magma as it were, Azafure simply burned when their wishes were not met.

This is basically Yharim saying that Azafure burned when their (the "more domineering of Gods") wishes were not met

[plucky juniper]

Okay

Not sure if this is Yharim making up an enemy or there's a certain fellow out there who masterminded the whole downfall of Azafure

[cosmic zenith]

Azafure's status and industrial power somehow contributed to its downfall

[light linden]

stip can I ask a question?

[plucky juniper]

The Brimstone Elemental's bestiary notably has the statement that "behind closed doors, there are whisperings that she was revived deliberately as part of a plot by opposing forces."

so, there's clearly something here.

[cosmic zenith]

Sure!

[cosmic zenith]

:)

So good to FINALLY have someone speculating something in this channel

[plucky juniper]

Domineering

[light linden]

[plucky juniper]

Are you sure Yharim isn't confusing the Devourer of Gods with the Gods themselves? I mean, given what he has to say about him later on, DoG may as well be as horrible as the Gods to Yharim.

[light linden]

did me speculating about azafure's economy and the alcohol culture of different cities just go unnoticed?

[light linden]

have you designed any flightless dragons?

[cosmic zenith]

Not yet (I've only designed Vetrasyl and barely started Zeratros)
I did intend the Gluttony Dragon to be flightless, but Triangle asked to handle that Dragon's design

[light linden]

(this is a joke)

[real silo]

So one of the gods who brainwashed yharim also conspired to blow up azafure

[icy veldt]

Should've done it a lot sooner 😔

[cosmic zenith]

I pondered the possibility of Death being flightless, but I definitely need more thought put into it; also, I would imagine a couple other Sin Dragons would be flightless as well

For example, I don't think Sloth would be capable of sustained flight

[light linden]

personally I've always imagined the gluttony dragon forcing his servants to carry him around on a

[real silo]

Pride dragon needs wax wings

[cosmic zenith]

I have something else in mind for its wings....

[light linden]

oh god what is the name of that

[cosmic zenith]

Chariot...?

[icy veldt]

I think Sloth would just teleport instantly, without even a flashy visual effect

The laziest form of transportation

[real silo]

Pride dragon named icarus

[plucky juniper]

What are the chances that Gluttony Dragon is partially based on Adel and/or the Gaping Dragon

[light linden]

a palanquin

[icy veldt]

WAIT... did the Wrath Dragon's soul become the God of War that got spilled out into the Crimson?

[cosmic zenith]

Ironically, no

[plucky juniper]

the sloth dragon is a sloth dragon

as in, hes a literal ground sloth-shaped dragon

[eager bluff]

his hatred of the gods doesnt allow him to see the similarities between dog and the gods

[light linden]

also

[plucky juniper]

ah. hes a professional hater, i forgot

[cosmic zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/does-he-know-gif-17552966235424643644

[light linden]

in terms of the seven deadly sin dragons, I've always imagined the dragon of pride to act similarly to crusadermon from cyber sleuth

[cosmic zenith]

Oh, I have much more interesting stuff in mind for Sloth....

[plucky juniper]

(Im joking i just thought it would be really funny)

[real silo]

Dragon of sloth god of procrastination

[eager bluff]

sloth is a dragon made of rocks

[cosmic zenith]

Ironically, Sloth is the Dragon I have most ideas for, with Greed being next (a good bit behind)

[light linden]

if it's like belphemon I will scream in joy

[eager bluff]

incapable of movement due to its own weight

[cosmic zenith]

Who's Belphemon

[plucky juniper]

tho ground sloths are genuinely underrated, so i'd like to see some inspiration

[light linden]

digimon

1 sec

[real silo]

Belphem on deez n

[jaunty wraith]

Dragon of lust, the god would become the calamity mod fandom

[icy veldt]

Would the Dragon of Greed get its soul put something like into a God of Ambition, similar to Tzeentch from 40K?

[real silo]

Dragon of greed becomes sisyphus

[jaunty wraith]

What if consuming the dragon of greed auric soul makes you become the god of capitalism

[plucky juniper]

now. i would cheer for yharim to kill that bastard

[eager bluff]

prime

[cosmic zenith]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

[icy veldt]

One of the patron deities of Azafure

[eager bluff]

isnt tzeentch the god of. change. and not ambition

[icy veldt]

Ambition is part of it

[jaunty wraith]

There are many gods that were never named that made up the corruption and crimson, that could of easily been one of them

[icy veldt]

As are hope, knowledge, magic, planning, Machiavellian manipulation, and insanity caused by eldritch wisdom

[plucky juniper]

no. not even corruption and crimson could be made up of the god of capitalism

his death would unleash something truly vile

[icy veldt]

It's a third evil biome: the Cash Register

Hmmm... the Krusty Krab

[eager bluff]

mr krabs becomes the third pure ascension god solely to become the god of greed so he can get more cash off a krabby patty

[real silo]

God of capitalism: mr krabs

[cosmic zenith]

Dollarbob

[eager bluff]

pure ascension not because of any special mechanics but just because hes Built Like That

[cosmic zenith]

He was too greedy to let the domain go to waste

[real silo]

mr krabs the third ilmeran to become a god

[icy veldt]

Token evil Ilmerian deity

[light linden]

y'know

I kinda wonder if there was a dragon that willingly died

[cosmic zenith]

But ngl alternate evil biomes are lame.... alternate Underworld biomes are the shit

[jaunty wraith]

Ahoy spongeboy me Bob, I have consumed a dragons auric soul and now I have ascended to godhood and will be slain by yharim, I will need life support soon agahagahahah

[icy veldt]

Alternate Hallow biome?

[real silo]

true

Stip when are you canonizing the asphodel drifts

[cosmic zenith]

Alternate Hallow is a middle term
It's pretty cool

[eager bluff]

soul absorption is like a corporation merger or a buyout

[cosmic zenith]

I'm leaving that up for either imagination or peak addons :)

[eager bluff]

mr krabs ascending with a pure ascension because he paid the former dragon of greed 7 calamillion dollars

[wanton pendant]

Dragon of Fraud is the true Capitalism Incarnate.

[icy veldt]

Alternate Forest that's the most difficult biome in the entire game from the moment the player arrives at it

[cosmic zenith]

The best you're getting is some Children of Lethe buildings

[eager bluff]

https://terraria.wiki.gg/wiki/Jungle

[icy veldt]

No not that

[cosmic zenith]

🔥 ✍️

[wanton pendant]

And I'd stay away from the Dragon of Treachery.

[cosmic zenith]

Alternate Jungles are also really awesome!!

[icy veldt]

Dragon Deez Nuts

[jaunty wraith]

Of the corruption/crimson are meant to be the evil gods, and the hallow is meant to be the good gods. Then there should be another one that are the neutral gods, either varied in thier deeds or so unremarkable as a god

[eager bluff]

oh simple thats a costco parking lot

[wanton pendant]

I was thinking about this earlier.

I think they'd just get assimilated, honestly.

Into the other three.

[icy veldt]

Probably a dumb question, but are the essences of Tyrian and Otonilou spilling out beneath the Sunken Sea?

[wanton pendant]

Not enough drive to commit to their own alignment and all that.

[wanton pendant]

Actually good point, did Devourer get his grubby mitts on them?

[icy veldt]

Probably already answered in the in-game lore, and I just don't remember right now

[eager bluff]

dog got to em

[icy veldt]

Darn

Of course

[eager bluff]

they were killed after dog joined the crusade

[wanton pendant]

Or maybe Calamitas grilled them a bit too hard.

[real silo]

Treachery is not part of the 7 sins

[heavy zenith]

So the more domineering God's burned Azafure? Like it was destroyed once before?

[real silo]

Nobody invited bro 🙏

[eager bluff]

its part of the 9 circles !

[real silo]

Treachery is the layer of hell

[wanton pendant]

Erm, it's at the bottom of hell.

With Satan himself.

And Judas, the two guys who killed Caesar.

Dante liked Caesar.

[real silo]

The 7 deadly sins and the 9 circles of hell overlap a little but they're not identical

[wanton pendant]

But Fraud is fine, looks like we got a fraud here.

[cosmic zenith]

No
Yharim is implying that Brimmy's awakening was somehow a desire or plot of such Gods

[wanton pendant]

Not a real sin maniac.

[real silo]

You're a sinner

[wanton pendant]

Yharim is a conspiracy theorist.

[cosmic zenith]

Azafure was only destroyed once

[wanton pendant]

But with your help, we can destroy it again.

[heavy zenith]

Ohhhh gotcha, thanks for clarification 👍

[cosmic zenith]

No problem!

[wanton pendant]

It'd be really funny if there was like, a Dragon of Evil and Yharim doesn't like talking about him.

[real silo]

You got any evil dragons
We got flame and ash

[wanton pendant]

The Dragon of Actuarial Mathematics probably wasn't all that impressive.

[eager bluff]

it would be more of

the dragon of math

[magic epoch]

Dragon of Auric Tesla

[wanton pendant]

No, no, he runs an insurance business.

He died as part of an insurance scam and the god got the payout.

[eager bluff]

god of bad business decisions

sorry not dragon god

[wanton pendant]

That god? God of Debt.

[real silo]

Dragon of trash

[wanton pendant]

Created the God of Disposal.

[eager bluff]

god of landfills

[magic epoch]

god of recycling

[eager bluff]

new corruption alt its called the landfill

actually wait that could be peak

[wanton pendant]

Nah, it should start with C... hmmm....

Crematorium doesn't work...

The Clutter!

[real silo]

That's for dragon of rebirth

[magic epoch]

is that recycling it seems more like reusing

[wanton pendant]

Dragon of Reducing.

[magic epoch]

dragon of exponential decay

[real silo]

what is recycling if not giving new life to a disposed object

[wanton pendant]

That is reusing.

[real silo]

Dragon of limits

[wanton pendant]

Which is different.

[eager bluff]

creates the god of division (mathematics)

[wanton pendant]

Why is it like that?

[eager bluff]

as opposed to god of division (political)

[real silo]

I meant like

Melt it down and turn it into something else

[wanton pendant]

That's Recycling.

[real silo]

Not just use it as a pot or some shit

Yes that's what I'm saying

Farterwraith

[wanton pendant]

Reduce, Reuse, and Recycle mean very differing things.

What did you just call me?!?

[eager bluff]

farterwraith

[wanton pendant]

Kill.

[magic epoch]

Dragon of Liberalism and the Dragon of... what the fuck would you even use as "republic" here

[cosmic zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/jerma-eat-burger-whopper-gif-19831425

[magic epoch]

hi jerma

[eager bluff]

...dragon of conservatism

[real silo]

Dragon of germs

[magic epoch]

okay yeah that works

i forgot the word im gonna be real

[wanton pendant]

Dragon of Democracy, resulted in the God of Emancipation or something.

[real silo]

Dragon of constipation

[wanton pendant]

Dragon of Racism we don't talk about.

[real silo]

bowel problems upon thee

[wanton pendant]

The resulting God of Bigotry had it coming.

[eager bluff]

dragon of democracy which creates the Super God of Managed Democracy

[magic epoch]

i ascended via the dragon of pride

[wanton pendant]

Wait if the deadly sins get dragons what about the virtues?

[real silo]

Not as cool

[wanton pendant]

Wow, you don't like charity?

Unsuprising for this server.

[eager bluff]

dragon of the power of friendship -> god of a fucking gun

[real silo]

God of melon gund

[eager bluff]

gund

[wanton pendant]

Dragon of Humility, into God of Humiliation I guess.

[real silo]

Dragon of humility god of self deprecation

[magic epoch]

[wanton pendant]

Dragon of Patience, God of Endurance.

[magic epoch]

dragon of determination god of undertale

[wanton pendant]

Dragon of Kindness, God of Salvation?

Dragon of Diligence, God of Production?

Dragon of Charity, God of Wealth?

Dragon of Temperance, God of Willpower?

Dragon of Chastity, God of Control?

[real silo]

Holy shit jesus christ

[wanton pendant]

Yeah now that you mention it.

So that's the guy Yharim crucified.

[spring helm]

lmao jesus is now real in calamity

all the christ references can come back

santa is back

[wanton pendant]

They never left.

Jarvis, pull up the Polterghast concepts.

[eager bluff]

he actually called himself je suis chris but it got misinterpreted as him calling himself jesus christ

[wanton pendant]

What the hell is that ant thing.

[eager bluff]

aido

[wanton pendant]

What?

What if God of Dogma got his soul from the Dragon of Belief?

Or perhaps Dragon of Faith.

[eager bluff]

got his soul from dragon of balls

[wanton pendant]

No that was Goku.

[eager bluff]

goku got his powers from the dragon of gods

[wanton pendant]

I think that makes a paradox.

[eager bluff]

nah

[plucky juniper]

Dogma... from a Dragon?

[wanton pendant]

What?

Oh, wait.

I get it.

Say that again?

[wanton pendant]

What if they did it again?

[wanton pendant]

Your turtle looks like it's been through some stuff.

[heavy zenith]

Lore implications of this ^

[hot valve]

I'm sorry I just came to check this channel randomly and this image is killing me without context

[distant smelt]

This looks like if the jungle was an evil biome and infected a turtle
Not even like the spiky tortoises like a new thing entirely

[soft geyser]

The astral is mostly stars right?

[spring helm]

What do you mean

[long bloom]

the astral infection is a disease that formed inside a decomposing star

[cobalt vapor]

so y'all know how in one of the calamity extra difficulty mods idk if it was the eternity mode compatibility mod or even just reworked infernum but ngl, was draedon using an AN-225 or C-17 to airdrop the exo mechs?

[tropic oak]

wrong chat, and it was a C-17

[full comet]

How do Auric Souls work again?

They're souls of dragons right?

[real silo]

Yes

[wheat walrus]

What is Yharim gonna do 😭

[eager bluff]

punch him really hard

[long bloom]

yeah it's literally just a fancy name for dragon soul

bc some dragons (offshoots) aren't auric

so it's the soul of an auric dragon

[split mortar]

Wtfrick

[full comet]

So do Gods like

Have a whole Auric soul or only pieces of it

Like what about bosses like the Moon Lord who are confirmed it be Gods in calamity lore

[split mortar]

Moonlord isnt a god

[full comet]

I swore he had like a piece of an Auric soul at least?

[split mortar]

No proof of that afaik

[full comet]

Also what counts as a God?

[split mortar]

Someone who absorbed an auric soul

[full comet]

I know the Slime God does

[deft comet]

People who ascended perfect or otherwise with auric souls

[split mortar]

Perfect ascension still uses an auric soul

[split mortar]

They turn the auric soul and their soul into something different

[full comet]

Wait so if the player defeated Yharon, who is an Auric dragon, does the player count as a God

[split mortar]

No cause you dont do the ritual in game nor do we have the full soul

[deft comet]

No yharon's egg would be back in the Dragon Aerie most likely

[split mortar]

Ofcourse the terrarian could know the ritual if you say so but it wont be reflected ingame

[deft comet]

And you need to be in the Aerie to ascend

[full comet]

Ah. So we technically aren't a God.

Just an extremely powerful being that can kill gods/god like beings

[deft comet]

Yeah just like Yharim

or Calamitas

[full comet]

Neat.

[deft comet]

we are just very powerful

[split mortar]

Late prehardmode is when we can kill gods or godlike beings

Cause slimegod

Is a god

[cloud ibex]

yea there's a very wide range of power levels from god to god

for an average person sg is no slouch but compared to most other shit you deal with they're... kinda pathetic

[frosty charm]

Can't wait for provi to be confirmed wall level

[cloud ibex]

but then xeroc is like

[pliant ruin]

the humble tier change

[frosty charm]

I wonder if we'll ever be able to fight a low tier god

[cloud ibex]

the most powerful being in the universe as far as we know

[split mortar]

The humble not in game or confirmed so not considering it stfu

[pliant ruin]

the humble melon gun

[split mortar]

[pliant ruin]

man this slime god guy sure is weak for a god.

hes like some kind of low tier god

[deft comet]

I do like the note of the hallowed being contained by the WoF but not the corruption or crimson while all 3 are divine biomes

[cloud ibex]

the evil biomes make for good propaganda

[deft comet]

yeah

[cloud ibex]

the hallow does not

[pliant ruin]

just leave a little bit of them in there

[deft comet]

Also it is funny cause wouldnt prismatic crystals be a product of whatever electricity god

[split mortar]

Sea prisms? Yeah their endless charge is from otonilou

[frosty charm]

Woolooloo

[split mortar]

Halving your teeth diagonally

[pliant ruin]

Yeah sea prisms are from otonilou

She made em

[frosty charm]

Straight up killing you

[mighty zenith]

sea prisms from touhou

[frosty charm]

Top that chump

[split mortar]

Kinda rude

[deft comet]

Yharim loves killing the gods and later using their products for his direct personal gain

[cloud ibex]

you know now that you mention it i think i can imagine the hallow crystals also having some of otonilou's essence in them

[pliant ruin]

funny to think about because it technically means that otonilou indirectly invented the exo mechs

[frosty charm]

You are evil me hero

What is otonilou I just got here

[cloud ibex]

she's described as a "saint" so her essence being dumped along with all the other good gods and then sealed away in the Wall would make sense

[cloud ibex]

one of ilmeris' deities

the goddess of electricity

[deft comet]

Electricity god, worshiped by Ilmeris

[split mortar]

Except dog was around by the time scal nuked ilmeris

[cloud ibex]

was he

oops

[split mortar]

Yeah

So otonilou is sent to the shadow realm instead of the wall

[frosty charm]

Was evil scary sonic killed in the crusades

[deft comet]

the primary reason Yharim genocided ilmeris no? cause they worshiped it right

[cloud ibex]

she's half the reason

the other half is tyrian

[pliant ruin]

yeah yharim really wanted to kill the jellyfish woman

yep

[split mortar]

Yeah he sent scal to end their entire country cause of tyrian and otonilou existing

[frosty charm]

Who

[cloud ibex]

silva

[split mortar]

Thats silva

[frosty charm]

Why

[split mortar]

Post ascension

[mighty zenith]

why not

[frosty charm]

Ok

[cloud ibex]

she's silly

[split mortar]

She silly

[cloud ibex]

just a little goofy goober

[frosty charm]

Your pfp looks like prince watcher

[split mortar]

My pfp is not them

[frosty charm]

Ok

[split mortar]

Image used for my pfp

[full comet]

Y'know I kinda wish we knew what the God seeker Knights looked like

Actually

[deft comet]

Probably like yharim but different helms

[full comet]

Considering that Yharim says that the God seekers were transformed into the Mech bosses

Maybe the hallowed armor is what they used

[deft comet]

They wouldnt have had access to hallowed

[full comet]

"Draedon understood well and granted them these massive forms. Bristling with weaponry and interlocked armor forged of blessed metal.
While in truth it was repurposed mining equipment, their sheer presence on the battlefield was immense."

[pliant ruin]

I mean

Yharim uses auric

[wheat walrus]

Yharim loves Ilmeris

[pliant ruin]

I highly doubt they'd have auric lmao

[full comet]

Hallowed basically means holy or blessed.

[pliant ruin]

Also Godseeker Knights wouldn't all specifically have been turned into the Mech bosses

[deft comet]

Different metal but similar design id imagine

[pliant ruin]

It's just a sector of Yharim's army that was

[full comet]

So they're probably made out of hallowed metal

[pliant ruin]

I believe there's plans for a event later on involving fighting some remaining Yharmy soldiers

[full comet]

Honestly

That would be sick

I can imagine it being similar to Old Ones Army.

Mainly with different tiers as you progress.

[split mortar]

Is there a post providence arsenal armour planned chat

[full comet]

Like not all of Yharim's army would be equipped with the best of the best

[pliant ruin]

Iirc the plan is ofr it to be a post moon lord event but dont quote meo n that

Yharim's army is mostly Gone by now so it'd be a small group that clings onto his ideals still

[random mulch]

we make arsenal with uelibloom but that's probably not what the actual godseeker knights' armor was made of

[split mortar]

Godseeker knights werent the only soldiers
They were the best of the best of his army iirc

[deft comet]

I mean I think most of his army would be pretty kitted out comparing they had Draedon's armory at their disposal

[full comet]

Maybe call them something like the "God killers"

Or something equally as cheesy

[pliant ruin]

Godseeker knights probably where pretty high up in the echelons of the yharmy i imagine yeah

[full comet]

I can imagine a God seeker Knight being the equivalent to an event boss

[split mortar]

I aint on about the power of the gear just looks
Is there a post provi arsenal armour planned
Cause even if weaker gear then what we use it would look the same due to using same schematics

[full comet]

Like the Ice Queen, Saucer, etc.

[random mulch]

yeah

[pliant ruin]

Cause even if weaker gear then what we use it would look the same due to using same schematics

Idk about that one chief

[random mulch]

the current sprite for tier 3 still looks rusty as shit

[pliant ruin]

Like do you really think every single godseeker knight would just use armor identical to the one we use with no sort of customization done to cater to their own fighting styles or personal needs whatsoever

[full comet]

I can imagine like

First tier of Yharim's remnants would be after Mechs.

Then after Moon Lord.

Then after Providence.

[pliant ruin]

I'm pretty sure the current plan is for it to just be Post ML which i'm personally entirely fine with it because like

Hardmode has 200 billion events already

[full comet]

Fair

[pliant ruin]

Different tiers in post ml could be cool though

[full comet]

I do like the idea of multiple tiered events that Old Ones Army offered

It's just that Old One's army sucks

[split mortar]

Ok slight variation my point still stands if there is post provi arsenal armour we know atleast what some looked like and the general vibe they all would have

[full comet]

Tier 1 is easy

Tier 2 is easy

And then Tier 3 is hell

Just the largest difficulty spike

[pliant ruin]

cheese remains the single old ones army fan ever

[cloud ibex]

this is true

[full comet]

I think the worst part is that there is no way to like

Gain defender medals easily or access previous tiers in one world

Like you have to switch to another world to fight a previous tier if you forgot about it until post golem.

I made that mistake

Never again

At least old ones make multi class more viable...

[pliant ruin]

Yeah that's kind lame but i mean, to be fair its how every other event with tiers work too so