lore-discussion

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Wtfrick

[wheat walrus]

Melon Gun we in august 2025 and you still relying on random stuff 1 dev said once 😔

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🖕

[wheat walrus]

Melon Gun start looking at the game

Open thine eyes

Enlighten

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I dont think theres a cutscene detailing how long calamitas boiled the fish

[wheat walrus]

That's because you don't know how long it took

Or how she did it

There is no truth

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You dont exist

[wheat walrus]

Until there is, it's not ingame

[wheat walrus]

Goodbye Melon

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Yes

[wheat walrus]

Dang

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It is known im dumb

[wheat walrus]

Melon Gun start undumbing

[split mortar]

Nough

[wheat walrus]

What compels you to stay dumb, even while knowing of it

[split mortar]

Too lazy

[real silo]

He can do it if he really tries just trust me

[wheat walrus]

But you're not too lazy to dig up stuff that devs said 1 time 56 years ago

I think that's harder than undumbing

[split mortar]

Correct

[wheat walrus]

js undumbify melon gun

[real silo]

Melon like a burned out gifted potential child

[wheat walrus]

True

He's like me

Watch out for summer of your 18th year melon

Something bad gonna happen

This is not a threat

[real silo]

0 As
0 effort
7 "he can do it if he puts his mind to it"s

[wheat walrus]

Megumigun

[split mortar]

I forgor if i am considered gifted or not

[real silo]

melon gift

[wheat walrus]

With this treasure I summon, devraga

[split mortar]

I have autism does that count

[wheat walrus]

Depends

[real silo]

with this I summon dev statement

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Dev statement

[wheat walrus]

HAHHAHAHAHAHAHA

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Correct that is a dev statement

Stipulate quote

[wheat walrus]

I'm gonna follow the advice of the consolation goober

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Who the consolation goober

[wheat walrus]

Matters not

But I'll remove your entrails, and hit you w this look

As advised

[real silo]

Wait so solar frags are actually primordial light

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Yes just with moonlord having happened to it

[real silo]

how tf that random ass solar planet have primordial light

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Moonlord

Also its called solar

Yknow what solar means

The fucking sun

[real silo]

Aren't each of the pillar moons formerly planets that fovos exploded

[split mortar]

Thats a theory but not confirmed

Likely one imo

[real silo]

Thumby

Idk I thought primordial light is specific to terraria only

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The sun is specific to terraria

Maybe there be other sources or something

Dis you think the solar frags having pl was a rp only thing?

[mighty zenith]

there be treasure

[real silo]

Yes

I found it weird even in rp

But mostly because I'm biased towards my own hc

I need to reread the solar frag entry one sec

Ok it just says fragments of pimordial light

I feel like this would change things but I don't know How

[mighty zenith]

stupidraxia

[real silo]

Shut up harbor

Go port some ships or something

Unload cargo like a stupid salaryman

[mighty zenith]

mad cause broke

[split mortar]

Camarune purifies the primordial light and finds out the most efficient flashbang

Being genuine i dont think it would since the pl is altered by ml so the other properties could be a result from thst

[real silo]

what even is the sun

[wheat walrus]

Your mom

[real silo]

I made solar frags to be nuclear fusion because that's what the sun is irl

But how does the sun create primordial light

What is primordial light

How ts different from normal light

[pliant ruin]

oooo magic

normal light is just like

light

[wheat walrus]

It's prolly not even light by definition

[pliant ruin]

primordial light is an actual tangible material thats some fucked up magicky thing

[pliant ruin]

yeah no this

it emits light but is probably not actually light by definition

its an actual palpable material which light uh isnt

[split mortar]

Its like normal light but has properties of mana i think
And more potent then normal mana

[pliant ruin]

the fact it has fragments alone establishes its an actual material so like Yeah

[real silo]

Oh so it's

Magic goop

And not light

[pliant ruin]

magic sun light goop !

[wheat walrus]

I'll fragment you, are you a material

[pliant ruin]

yeam

[split mortar]

If primordial light is an actual material why can it let us see

[pliant ruin]

im cheesium

new ore

[pliant ruin]

what does this mean

[cloud ibex]

light-emitting material

[wheat walrus]

Time to destroy the economy

[inland quest]

“The government is hiding billions of pounds of cheese in secret caves under the US”

[real silo]

So solar fragments are like

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Our eyes can use it like light and sees

[real silo]

Diluted primordial light that isn't as strong

[pliant ruin]

where was this said

[wheat walrus]

3rd time im sorry gng it just has to be

[pliant ruin]

Something like that yeah

[pliant ruin]

also yes this is true

[real silo]

Oki

[pliant ruin]

im under the us rn

find me

[wheat walrus]

Found you

[pliant ruin]

fuck

[wheat walrus]

Won't leak tho dw

[pliant ruin]

oh ok

[real silo]

So how do I make the fake-primordial-light part of it fit witht he nuclear-fusion part of it

[cloud ibex]

i will

cheese is in

[split mortar]

As rebecca said
Controlling Primordial light doesnt defacto make you absurdly strong, solar frags have 4 materials on its level afterall

[pliant ruin]

Ill be honest i have no idea how nuclear fusion works uhh just replace whatever material you'd need from the actual sun to do nuclear fusion with primordial light

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^

[pliant ruin]

whatever noble gas it is or whatever its called

im the fish woman not the physics woman

[real silo]

Oh so smth like primordial light's mana or whatever replaces the pressure in the sun's core so that matter can be fused to create more energy

[wheat walrus]

Nuclear fission is splitting atoms, creating lots of energy. Nuclear fusion is merging them, usually after fission, creating even more energy and new atoms

This is very simplified, but it's the basics ig

[split mortar]

I lost track of the conversation whats happening

[real silo]

Solar fusion afaik is just fusing hydrogen and hydrogen to make helium

Under insane amounts of pressure and heat

[wheat walrus]

Don't remember which atoms byea

[pliant ruin]

cant tell you how nuclear fusion works but i sure can tell you about the fastests known species of ocean fish

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That being

[meager prism]

What

[split mortar]

What

[wheat walrus]

Don't mind it gh. they're js yapping

[meager prism]

Sorry im just confused asl why are we talking about nuclear fission and fusion

[pliant ruin]

billfish such as marlins and swordfish and sailfish, with specifically the sailfish being the fastest
honorable mention to tuna tho

[wheat walrus]

Ok WE're js yapping

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The sun

[meager prism]

Ok i was just gonna ask how does the murasama fit into the lore

[real silo]

Solar fragment lore

[meager prism]

I head canon it as signus’ old weapon

[split mortar]

Not canon

Reference item

[pliant ruin]

murasama dosen't have any lore and dunno if signus really uses any weapons

[meager prism]

Lame booooo

cries in the corner

[real silo]

Signus uses cosmic kunai and cosmilamp

[pliant ruin]

i think itd be lamer to have mf jetstream sam murasama be canon thats so jarring

😭

[wheat walrus]

Wouldn't matter ngl

[split mortar]

Why would signus stop using a post dog sword

[real silo]

Remember cheese .

[wheat walrus]

Canon is what canon one likes honestly

[real silo]

Jetstream samarune

[pliant ruin]

It'd be really jarring imo...

[wheat walrus]

I think the worry abt canons is more jarring already

[meager prism]

I just thought of it bc i THINK signus only joined dog after either losing/being stuck in a stalemate when he was sent to kill him

[wheat walrus]

icl I find myself disliking "this is canon and this isn't" talk so much

[meager prism]

Kind of like sam and armstrong

[split mortar]

Signus isnt with dog

[wheat walrus]

And really like it when writers don't say stuff on the topic

[split mortar]

Thats old lore

[meager prism]

Oh

[wheat walrus]

Cause who cares, up to you

[meager prism]

Okay i remember now lol i heard of it from an old lore recap

[pliant ruin]

I mean when you want to write something cohesively i think its fair to not want to make some stuff you have no control over not a part of the story
If you want to make it its fine though have fun

Because like murasama and stuff aren't just gonna be removed because they dont fit in the lore so what can ya do

I guess i can see the argument for just like

Not outright stating them as noncanon and just

[wheat walrus]

Yea this problem just comes from Calamity being a mess, probably cause Fabsol a stinker

[pliant ruin]

ignoring their existence lol

[wheat walrus]

I to this day think that outside of the main material for obvious reasons, any spinoff, crossover, or similar content's canonicity should be up in the air for the reader, instead of confirmed as anything

And with most fictional works, that is the case no matter how much community ppl are annoying abt canonicity

[meager prism]

I think calamity lore being vague a lot of the time is kinda a good thing.

Since even with calamity the game is still mostly a sandbox and with that vagueness you can cook up some fun stuff based off your own interpretations.

[untold oracle]

Just rebrand murasama into an original weapon and all issues will be gone

[pliant ruin]

alot of the vagueness is just due to it being unfinished tbh
but theres some stuff thats intentional

[meager prism]

If I wanna pretend murasama somehow fits into calamity I can make up my own bullshit

[pliant ruin]

reign of yh

[wheat walrus]

js stop giving a shit 🔥

[untold oracle]

NO

[wheat walrus]

That's where the problems lie

[meager prism]

Yhon is canon bc yharon actually revived a 2nd time mid fight but he fucked it up and forgot to revive his torso

[untold oracle]

SHUT UP

[wheat walrus]

I shan't

[untold oracle]

Reign of lea

[pliant ruin]

i think a world where murasama wasnt murasama jetstream sam mgr would be better because having the mods literal single most popular and iconic weapon not even be original to it is boo womp but thats never happening and understandably so it is what it is

[wheat walrus]

And if I shall, it's when I want to

[pliant ruin]

Its a situation where if it had happened in the past itd be awesome but it didnt so

[untold oracle]

Yeah that .

[pliant ruin]

what can ya do

[wheat walrus]

Go back in time and kill Fabsol

[untold oracle]

No one outside calamity knows aotc or smth

[meager prism]

Like second place is aotc and ITS NOT EVEN CLOSE

[zenith geode]

when is hellborn gonna be mainstream

[pliant ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/free-birds-jake-the-turkey-get-turkeys-off-the-menu-gif-10922957308573646679

[meager prism]

🔥

[wheat walrus]

Hahaha

[pliant ruin]

That's right. We're going back in time ot the first calamity update. To kill fabsol

Not get off him the team or anything no we're just killing him

hes gonna die

[wheat walrus]

Would be peak

[meager prism]

And then have azza something i forgot how to spell the mfs name take over earlier

[wheat walrus]

Ozzatron

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Ozzatron??

[pliant ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/say-that-again-gif-968943876633031890

fuck man

2 in a row

[wheat walrus]

Snailon Gun

[pliant ruin]

thats sad

[untold oracle]

Azzy made calamity mod

[split mortar]

Thought you werenon about azzathoth for a moment 😭

[pliant ruin]

anyways i posted the say that again gif thats what i posted

thatas my wife...

[wheat walrus]

Or maybe they js disabled embeds for uncool dudes

[pliant ruin]

no yea i dont have embeds i just forgot twice in a row

[wheat walrus]

Haha

[pliant ruin]

can send this though

[split mortar]

fucking dumbass

[wheat walrus]

Dementia cheese

[meager prism]

[wheat walrus]

Melon Gogmazios also

[cloud ibex]

lore discussion

[split mortar]

I should use dev statements more often cause they are totally reliable

[meager prism]

Over paradise

[pliant ruin]

ok yeah gang

we're too rotted

[split mortar]

The terrarian

[pliant ruin]

too much fog here

[split mortar]

Kirby vs xeroc

[cloud ibex]

you can still use dev statements just like

[wheat walrus]

Monster Hunter Zoh Shia VS Polterghast

[cloud ibex]

mention that it's something a dev offhandedly mentioned in here and not necessarily explicit lore

[split mortar]

I grab dev statements by linking the message

[wheat walrus]

So true Goupert Funkerdinckle

[pliant ruin]

Ok this one actually seems like itd be kind of a fair fight but my money's on Zoh

anyways what's up with silvas flower

why does it have a face

does it like eat

[meager prism]

Btw there were a buncha memes about dog being a girl a few weeks ago i just wanna ask is that a thing or is that a joke and dog is just a thing that transcends gender

[wheat walrus]

If you want my take, I think Zoh Shia kinda just stomps badly

[pliant ruin]

can the flower eat things

[meager prism]

Im genuinely curious

[pliant ruin]

dog is a guy

[untold oracle]

John wulfrum vs jacob bryson

[meager prism]

Kiryu table slam gif

[cloud ibex]

the problem isn't that you don't say where it's from the issue is that the way you present it makes it feel like it's objective, set-in-stone facts rather than a dev being asked a question, thinking about it for like two seconds and going "uhhhh idk 4 days or something"

[cloud ibex]

friend

[wheat walrus]

Artificial Fataliform thing that also obliterated an advanced ancient civilization utterly

So yk

[pliant ruin]

true

[split mortar]

Fair enough

[pliant ruin]

yeah honestly fair enough

hey can storm weaver be a girl none of the worm bosses are girls

or liek deus

one of them

[cloud ibex]

the return of trans sw...............

[split mortar]

Storm weaver trans

[pliant ruin]

actually

[meager prism]

Calamity gone woke???

[wheat walrus]

I don't think Zoh Shia is quite on the level of, yk, Fatalis itself, but it did allat and is also called out as being a Forbidden-Class Mon, like Safi'jiiva say

[pliant ruin]

desert scourge has like eggs and stuff

dosent that make it a mother

[meager prism]

Im calling the woke games steam list guys

[split mortar]

Theres a gay couple

[meager prism]

Yall are so over

[cloud ibex]

i guess it would

[pliant ruin]

ds is a girl

fascinating

[split mortar]

Asexual reproduction

[wheat walrus]

Mom scourge

[pliant ruin]

yeah i figured it was like komodo dragons

they can just reproduce asexually

[meager prism]

Like actual worms too

[pliant ruin]

theyre lizard

[split mortar]

Desert scourge is gaining limbs

[pliant ruin]

🦎

[meager prism]

Ik but i just wanted to bring that up

Bc yknow worm boss

[wheat walrus]

js thought of smth cooler I think

[split mortar]

Halving your teeth

[pliant ruin]

worms are hermaphrodites which means they just like dont have an actual gender and can switch at will

while komodo dragons do have individual genders

its just that the females can just

lay eggs

when they feel like it

[meager prism]

Ohhhh

[pliant ruin]

its one of the reasons why theyre os sucessfull as island predators

[meager prism]

Interesting

[cloud ibex]

that's interesting

[pliant ruin]

i imagine DS is more like komodos given
its a lizard and all

[split mortar]

Cheese the lizard person

Calamitas vs yuri limbus

[meager prism]

whispers under my breath
Neeeeerd

[wheat walrus]

Thought she was a fish person smh

[cloud ibex]

still hoping that ds doesn't die and instead gives up on the "hunt" when you beat it

[wheat walrus]

The what

[split mortar]

Desert scourge the monster that hunts

[pliant ruin]

primarily but i still known about other creatures....

i love creatures

[pliant ruin]

:true:

[split mortar]

Who here isnt a nerd

[pliant ruin]

what a wild hunt this one is

[wheat walrus]

How would DS fare in a MH ecosystem gng

[split mortar]

It would be an early game guy if that

[pliant ruin]

hed probably be like a earlygame monster
like

gonna be real here

[meager prism]

Im a totally cool jock with ten girlfriends and boyfriends and i do football basketball uh uhhh shut up!!

[pliant ruin]

desert scourge is literally just that one sand leviathan from mh wilds

[cloud ibex]

well it's kinda balahara esque isn't it

[pliant ruin]

yeah balahara

its literally just that

new ds is just balahara

[wheat walrus]

DS is very long, but also thin and doesn't seem to be particularly sturdy

[split mortar]

New ds seems a bit thicker

[wheat walrus]

MH monsters have the thing where Iron is a material comparable to small monster bones 🥀

[pliant ruin]

calamity mods first boss desert scourge fought in the underground or suface desert

[cloud ibex]

thicker and also stubbier

[pliant ruin]

genuinely same creature

even down to the weird split jaws and stuff

[cloud ibex]

still love how greebly and weird the new wilds monsters are

[wheat walrus]

Iirc Triangle used Balahara as an inspo

[pliant ruin]

fucked up mosquito dinosaur

[wheat walrus]

Wilds monsters r goated

[pliant ruin]

i love eating oil

[wheat walrus]

ROMPOPOLO

[split mortar]

Chat how does aquatic scourge fair in mh

[meager prism]

Wait who tf would fight ds underground

[pliant ruin]

slightly later game monster thats still early

its like fougth as the first monster of a new area

[wheat walrus]

In MH I lwk get the feeling it'd be a subspecies of DS

[pliant ruin]

i was gonna say that but subspecfies usually are like lategame and stuff arent they

[cloud ibex]

i know it won't happen but it would be extra funny if new ds drops a material you use to make weapons and armor

[split mortar]

Its gaining a pre made arena sub biome place underground iirc

[cloud ibex]

just to make the mh comparison even more blatant

[meager prism]

Ohhhhhh

[wheat walrus]

Early game of a new rank. Say, early high or master/g rank

[pliant ruin]

ok that actually makes sense

[wheat walrus]

Like how Iceborne added a lot of subspecies

But most of them aren't particularly strong, just stronger than their standard monster

[pliant ruin]

Desert Scourges name be like Scorganoth and then we get Acidic Scorganoth or something

yepp

[split mortar]

Plague bringer goliath in mh

[wheat walrus]

PBG is literally a Guardian lmao

[distant smelt]

Toxic makes more sense but ok

[split mortar]

Lmao???

[wheat walrus]

In terms of functions it's kind of a guardian

[pliant ruin]

theyre like the same

[distant smelt]

I disagree

[pliant ruin]

how

[wheat walrus]

Except instead of being created and modeled after something, it's something that was remodeled

[pliant ruin]

Acidic because it lives in the Sulphur Acid Sea
Toxic because it lives in the Sulphur Acid Sea which is Toxic

how do either of these make anymore sense tahn the other

its like saying dont call it burning call it scorching

[wheat walrus]

But the idea is very similar, modified life for specific purposes

[pliant ruin]

like those are the same man

[wheat walrus]

I do think PBG would be like

Low elder dragon level

[distant smelt]

Because i feel the need to argue about something and i have no other ideas

[wheat walrus]

Thinking of like Bazel n stuff

[pliant ruin]

im sleep deprived so im more irritable and i will use this as a excuse to stab you violently now

[distant smelt]

Ok

[split mortar]

Sleep

[pliant ruin]

stabs you violently

no

[distant smelt]

Aw man

[pliant ruin]

stabs you violently too

[distant smelt]

I was using that blood

[split mortar]

Bru

How would the nano plague fare in monster hunter

[wheat walrus]

Dragonfolly in MH meanwhile,,,

[pliant ruin]

frenzy virus but legally distinct

[wheat walrus]

Frenzy Virus but Guardians

[pliant ruin]

yep

[wheat walrus]

I think it can be overcome

[distant smelt]

Storm weaver in mh?

[gritty kraken]

Is this ark discussion

[split mortar]

Monster hunter

[wheat walrus]

Regular monsters would be affected badly by it but elders would just do elder things

[wheat walrus]

Weaves storms, so I think it's elder dragon level

Since elder dragons are known for changing the weather like that

[gritty kraken]

ravager is fanged beast

[wheat walrus]

I don't think it'd be particularly crazy tho

Maybe better than Kushala and Kirin, but not on the level of Narwa and Ibushi, and Amatsu would make Storm Weaver a fraud

But that's Amatsu

[pliant ruin]

ravager is idfk man its a zombie

[wheat walrus]

Construct again

[split mortar]

Zombie god

[wheat walrus]

Or ???

[pliant ruin]

probably ???

[split mortar]

Fucked uo zombie blood god

Thingy

[pliant ruin]

dont think construct fits

[wheat walrus]

Yea fair

Dragonfollies,,,

They're very MH-like idk

[split mortar]

How would they do

[pliant ruin]

they are honestly

i think purely on the basis theyre like these very animalsitic dragon creatures

thats very mh pilled idk

[wheat walrus]

I think that, same way I said PBG is on the lower end of elder dragon level, that Folly would also be on the level of elders (they're also 6-limbed, like elders)

[wheat walrus]

Also the fact that they have bird-like and some insect-like traits (mainly eyes), since MH mixes creatures up quite a bit

And the red lightning reminds me of dragon element, or Old Fatalis' funny thunder

[split mortar]

Old fatalis funny thunder?

[wheat walrus]

Old/White Fatalis

Who haa red thunder

[split mortar]

Ah ok

[wheat walrus]

Zoh Shia also briefly uses it

During phase 3 where it fully removes the wylk layer armor

[gritty kraken]

Was deviljho the dragon of gluttony

[wheat walrus]

Brute wyvern that eats a lot

To the point of damaging ecosystems massively, and in some cases, even destroy them

[split mortar]

Gluttonous

[gritty kraken]

and they swam from old world to new world for that right

[wheat walrus]

We don't know

They appeared in the New World but the reason is unconfirmed, but we are given a bunch of possible explanations

[scenic olive]

Are we getting massive lore rewrite?

[wheat walrus]

Like eggs being carried unknowingly or them being from unexplored regions of the new world

Anyways

Nergigante drops in either one or other point of cal history and tries to hunt down auric dragons and/or gods as they're the most energetic beings present

[split mortar]

Largest mh monster

[split mortar]

How well would it succeed

[wheat walrus]

By volume, Zorah Magdaros

[wheat walrus]

By length, Dalamadur in main/portable, Raviente outside of main/portable

I think Zorah Magdaros in Calamity would be doable to defeat, not cause it's weak but cause it's highly unresponsive (otherwise, that thing may asw be stronger than most, if not all the characters)

Raviente and/or Dalamadur though? Good fucking luck

[cloud ibex]

The lion does not concern himself with the opinions of the sheep

[wheat walrus]

Raviente has a benchmark cutscene where it flattens an entire island in like 2 minutes by just doing snake things

Dalamadur valleyfies mountains and shifts the earth's crust by moving around and has a portable meteor shower

[wheat walrus]

whar

Oh I get it

The lion is Zorah

[cloud ibex]

I guess it’d be the attacks of the sheep but close enough

[wheat walrus]

true

[wheat walrus]

(also how its thing is being an island-eater, but yk)

[wheat walrus]

Anyways, if I were to bet on anything MH outside of Forbiddies that could trouble any character in Cal, it's Dalamadur ngl

[gritty kraken]

It kinda look like it would eat Duke fishron but I’m not sure

[wheat walrus]

Duke Fishron is cooked against Nergigante ngl

Old Duke could prolly fight it tho, idk

Now, Ruiner Nergigante? I think that thing is beating Yharon ngl

[gritty kraken]

would Jared do a things

[split mortar]

Jared is above yharon so yeah

[wheat walrus]

Jared is underwater, idk if Nerg would even bother

But if it did, it'd lose out of being underwata

Even Ruiner I think

[split mortar]

Nergigante lose?

[wheat walrus]

Under the water

Does Nergigante look like it swims to you

[split mortar]

I forgor what it looks like so yes

[wheat walrus]

sob

[cloud ibex]

Imagine shadow the hedgehog as a dragon

That’s basically nergigante

[wheat walrus]

Nergigante is cooler

[split mortar]

I think that would struggle swimming

Jared out of water?

[wheat walrus]

More doable

Ceadeus VS Jared

[split mortar]

I dont think julius ceaser wins

[wheat walrus]

Whuh

[gritty kraken]

Do we have image perm

[split mortar]

Yes

How

The fuck

Would

[wheat walrus]

But not embed perms

[split mortar]

Images be posted

Otherwise

[wheat walrus]

Valstrax VS uhhh

hmmm

Calamitas cause red?

[split mortar]

Valstrax loses cause cant move due to the box™

[wheat walrus]

my honest reaction

[wanton pendant]

What the hell happened here?

[stoic gulch]

We hunted some monsters

[cloud ibex]

You can like

[stoic gulch]

Ones that you can’t stun with purple pikmin

[cloud ibex]

Read the chat to figure that out

[wanton pendant]

It was a really long chat I tried man.

[wheat walrus]

Anyways I'm not sure how much the box would bother Valstrax

[wanton pendant]

I was scrolling up for ages.

[cloud ibex]

It’s just a bunch of monster hunter cal discussion for the most part

[wanton pendant]

So more reasonable then earlier.

[wheat walrus]

Mainly because it reaches mach speeds basically instantly, and is capable of reacting fast enough to land on its feet while divebombing, so it probably can control itself and do more simple attacks in the box

[zenith geode]

could valstrax beat peak performance scorn eater

[wheat walrus]

Rest in peace Sky Comet Dragon

[split mortar]

No

The should make it so at night profaned enemies have blue form and stronger

[gritty kraken]

Jhen mohran vs desert scourge who win (fair fight)

[stoic gulch]

👎

[wanton pendant]

Who is that?

[stoic gulch]

Jhen Mohran

[wanton pendant]

Yeah no clue who that is.

[wheat walrus]

Didn't we determine that DS would be an early/mid game mon in MH

Jhen Mohran is a giant sand whale elder

[split mortar]

A elder is fucking vaporising ds

[wheat walrus]

It's not even allat crazy for elder standards, it's just a fucking mastodon and would js crush DS like a stick

[gritty kraken]

This big guy artwork goes hard

[wheat walrus]

no artwork

[gritty kraken]

dog ate it

[wheat walrus]

Devourer of Gods VS Alatreon, again

Because Alatreon is feared as a being that even gods would fear,,,

So, thematics

[wanton pendant]

Devourer is very, very hungry.

[wheat walrus]

I think Alatreon would traumatize DoG

[split mortar]

Alatreon nukes dog afaik but yeah fun thematics

[wheat walrus]

And kill it since it's on sight w Ala

[pliant ruin]

humble that fraud

[wheat walrus]

Yea

Repeat that one scene in that Oceaniz video w Alatreon

But it's DoG tweaking after seeing his brother CaT get eviscerated by the Eschaton

Wiki is wrong and Alatreon's weakness changes depending on mode oofy

😔

If Alatreon starts Ice Active then Perma is cooked

[wanton pendant]

Just back from looking if my question from ages ago was answered, can't wait to check hours later for when the saga concluded!
What would CaT stand for?

[wheat walrus]

Collector a Taxes

[wanton pendant]

Are they Seacilian?

[wheat walrus]

Whuh

No CaT is DoG's brother

He's distortian

Evil,,, baddd

[gritty kraken]

I did 2 and half seconds search for this one I can’t believe I was wrong I’m leaving now

[wanton pendant]

No, like Mario, where he's Italian but from the Mushroom Kingdom.

[wheat walrus]

No we don't allow italian ppl to collect taxes here

And if he truly is "italian", well now he's not, I don't accept tax collectors

Fanculo le tasse raga

[wanton pendant]

Considering that the only peole in the Terraria lore we knew went to hell is Mario and the Tax Collector... what did Relogic mean by this?

[zenith geode]

what about the guide

[wheat walrus]

Ruination

[wanton pendant]

The guide's also Italian.

He's got Luigi's hat.

[wheat walrus]

bad hc gng

[wanton pendant]

So he's Luigi, reborn.

How could Calamitas get a new outfit if she's broke?

[zenith geode]

stole it

[wanton pendant]

Better question: Who leaves mage outfits lying around for people to steal?

You'd think they'd be custom order.

[zenith geode]

nah there was someone in it

[wanton pendant]

Calamitas is two people stacked on top of eachother?

Then who's the other one?

[zenith geode]

key word was

[gritty kraken]

the clone

[wanton pendant]

Why doesn't Clone just get mental fortitude? Is she stupid?

[split mortar]

Why dont you block this cinderblock im throwing at you

[wanton pendant]

Someone's a Rogue fan.

[split mortar]

Nough

[leaden locust]

calamitos, her secret brother

[cosmic zenith]

I don't think that means she passed out on the battlefield, just that she fought until she couldn't anymore

Passing out on a battlefield is a terrible idea

[wanton pendant]

I mean 'body gave out' does imply literally collapsing, but yeah that would be a really bad for your health.

[real silo]

ts the real reason she has white hair

pushed herself harder than cama ever did

[split mortar]

Camarune mention

[cosmic minnow]

This makes me realize Sarenio’s hair should be a lot more white than it is

[wanton pendant]

Who?

[split mortar]

Their oc is called sarenio

[wanton pendant]

I'll avoid stealing.

[real silo]

Wrong my oc is called camarune

[wanton pendant]

Wow, the English have done as they always do.

Lie and steal!

[split mortar]

I didnt lie kaprysny has an oc called sarenio

[wanton pendant]

That's what they all say.

[split mortar]

???????

[real silo]

Gaslihting melon so hard

[split mortar]

Its just making me confused not question the existence of sarenio

[wanton pendant]

We know what you mean.

[split mortar]

What does that mean??

[wanton pendant]

You know what it means.

[split mortar]

Nuh uh

[wanton pendant]

Yuh uh.

[split mortar]

You use a full stop
Nerd

[wanton pendant]

I'm sorry for being literate.

[split mortar]

vs the child

[split mortar]

Cal fans arent allowed to be that

Tear out your eyes

[cosmic zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/meme-gif-4654060345501150810

[wanton pendant]

Even Torch God is Xeroc theory?

[cosmic zenith]

Yes

[split mortar]

All theories

[wanton pendant]

Nooooo!!!!

Well, time to make new theories.

Uh... divorce theory... just gotta nail down who got divorced.

[cosmic zenith]

Silva divorced Xeroc

[split mortar]

Noxus and fovos

[cosmic zenith]

Canon and real

[split mortar]

Thats not a theory

[wanton pendant]

YOooo! Divorce Theroy canon!

[cosmic zenith]

You're a theory

[wanton pendant]

A Game Theory?

[cosmic zenith]

A Shit Theory....

[wanton pendant]

:(

[cosmic zenith]

I was talking about melon :c

[wanton pendant]

:)

[light linden]

hi stip

[split mortar]

Wtfrick

[wanton pendant]

Deserved for being British.

[real silo]

You're probably fr*nch

Spiritually french at least

[wanton pendant]

What the hell.

I'm not French at all!

[dusk laurel]

[wanton pendant]

You'd have to go back a thousand years to find them!

[light linden]

bowser's inside story looking enemy

[wanton pendant]

So... it's like... a friend... inside?

[light linden]

do not

[dusk laurel]

say that again...

[light linden]

do not

[wanton pendant]

Friend inside?

[split mortar]

Do not

[wanton pendant]

That's what the British were told, but noooo, had to get more spice.

[split mortar]

Lea channel

[wanton pendant]

Of course you're colonising here.

[robust osprey]

Lea channel

[split mortar]

Lea is french fym

[wanton pendant]

British, French, it's all the same.

[split mortar]

NO THE FUCK ITS NOT

[wanton pendant]

Are you sure?

The French created the British.

[daring rivet]

did you ride the short bus when you went to school….

[wanton pendant]

What does that even mean.

[alpine jetty]

calling you autistic

[wanton pendant]

What does that have to do with buses?

[split mortar]

Making mark canon to calamity

[cosmic zenith]

Hello!

[cosmic zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/rain-world-lets-have-a-watch-lets-have-a-gander-british-lets-take-a-look-gif-16381601501683631907

[untold oracle]

Lea channel

[split mortar]

YES

LEA CHANNEL

[wanton pendant]

Don't you mean Tea channel?

Oh wait, it's in the harbour.

[ivory vigil]

The British and the French are the same

[untold oracle]

Lea is not BRITISH!

[wanton pendant]

The French created the British, the British want to be French.

[magic epoch]

so like. what is the cloud elemental actually an elemental of? just the air? or something

are there any elementals that can be killed

[split mortar]

Cloud elemental is the air elemental

[split mortar]

They can technically all be killed but functionally the elementals are immortal

[magic epoch]

is brimmy just brimstone? or like fire

[split mortar]

Fire/heat

[magic epoch]

makes sense

im so curious how you would actually go about killed cloud elemental. probably harder than silva because how the fuck are you killing the air

[inner surge]

On review, the last sentence of this struck me as very interesting.

[split mortar]

You have to remove the atmosphere from the planet

[inner surge]

I mean... I hesitate to call it irony. It'd easily be dramatic irony if not for the fact that Yharim is fully aware of his "fallen hero" status. But he need not wonder what a fading legend thinks, as he knows the feeling intimately.

[pliant ruin]

Yharim when he finds out the sulphur sea dragon is really fucking evil and a slaver

no guys you dont get it its because hes a offshoot yepp.

[mighty zenith]

not all dragons

but ALL gods

yep

there's nuance to this but only on the side i like

[spring helm]

Killing any of the elementals requires such extreme measures that you’d kill everyone else on the planet except for maybe extremophile bacteria

[light linden]

I mean

the sand elemental could prolly be killed the easiest

[magic epoch]

still unrealistic

[split mortar]

Delete the crust layer…

[light linden]

no

just make a bunch of glass bottles

problem solved

[magic epoch]

what about all the dirt

[split mortar]

Its the earth elemental

Wait i missed the joke

[light linden]

I thought there wasn't an earth elemental

[split mortar]

Sand is the earth elemental

[magic epoch]

sand elemental is the true earth elemental

[split mortar]

The enemy called earth elemental is a fake

[light linden]

ik

[tropic oak]

we should remove the sand elemental entirely to spite one user

[split mortar]

Made by azafurians to sell you yharcoin

[light linden]

hence why I said I didn't think there was one

[light linden]

do not say that ever again

[magic epoch]

it's a vanilla enemy though

[split mortar]

Made by azafurians to sell you yharcoin

[light linden]

doesn't calamity already remove a vanilla enemy?

[magic epoch]

that beinf

[split mortar]

?

[light linden]

I've never been able to get a martian drone to spawn in a calamity playthrough

[magic epoch]

no that exists

[split mortar]

How else would the martian madness start

[magic epoch]

i mean

cal adds a summon item

[light linden]

that's martian probe

[split mortar]

Oh

[magic epoch]

oh martian drone?

which one is that again

[light linden]

I'm talking about the dolphin missile things

[split mortar]

Oh the suicide bombers

[magic epoch]

yeah I remember seeing them

[light linden]

this

[magic epoch]

specifically because it was in my hyper mode playthrough and they were scarily fast (but did no damage)

[alpine jetty]

blowing really hard

[icy veldt]

Fart too stinky

[wanton pendant]

If we dropped Yharim in Tamriel, how long would it take for him to start a war?

[meager prism]

The world evils are just dead god remains right

[sinful adder]

Kind of yes

[meager prism]

So like

[sinful adder]

The left over soul stuff of dead gods screws up the land around them

[meager prism]

Did different gods die for the different evils???

[cloud ibex]

yes

[meager prism]

Does that imply there are 2 ‘canon’ timelines

For both corruption and crimson

Oh fuck what the hell am i gonna do for my project

[cloud ibex]

iirc the primary gods they're made out of are the god of war for the crimson and the god of dogma for the corruption

[sinful adder]

Both exist but in different places

Evil gods made the corruption and crimson and benevolent gods made the hallow

[cloud ibex]

nah i think they both exist lore wise

[meager prism]

Ohhhhh

So a canon playthrough would technically mandate some sort of both evils mod

[cloud ibex]

i guess?

[meager prism]

Canon being used loosely here

[cloud ibex]

a "canon" playthrough would also necessitate hardcore

[pliant ruin]

not necessarily because like

if you dont have one of the evils in your world it can just not be in a place you go to

[meager prism]

Like one of them is just tucked away in a neat lil island

[pliant ruin]

terraria is a 2d game but the actual lore is that you're on like a whole ass continent

[meager prism]

The monsters living in harmony lmao

[pliant ruin]

things would be far more expansive realistically and there'd be places you just don't go to within the game

[meager prism]

Yeah that makes sense

Does the calamity world have multiple big continents or it just pangea with maybe some small insignificant islands

I assume the latter

[wheat walrus]

John Clam

[meager prism]

ity

[cloud ibex]

there's multiple continents

[meager prism]

I see

[cloud ibex]

it's been mentioned that, before you reach hardmode, the continent you play on (usually referred to as the Heartlands) is the second(!) worst place on the planet to live on

[pliant ruin]

there's multiple continents but the one we play in just so happens to be the one where most shit happened as it was the like center of action for the yharmy and the crusade

[meager prism]

Oh ok

Did the town npcs come from the other continents

[cloud ibex]

some probably did

i doubt they're all from the Heartlands

[wheat walrus]

Hmmm how convenient! One might call this: bad writing! (with a clip of that avg redditor impression guy)

[cloud ibex]

personally i like to imagine the arms dealer came here because he's a criminal and nobody wants to pursue someone into the second most dangerous continent on the planet

[meager prism]

Thats so sick

[wheat walrus]

i deal arms

[pliant ruin]

some of them like the tax collector are native to the hearthlands

[wheat walrus]

Nuke the earthlands

Craterize them

Utterly

[meager prism]

Is that really such a sin

[pliant ruin]

but people like the merchant probably just came as a opportunity for ✨ commerce ✨ and i fully believe what leon just said about the arms dealer hes true

[wheat walrus]

I'm sinning it

[meager prism]

For events to be centralized in an important place

[meager prism]

Ok then

Sure

[wheat walrus]

I'm js making an impression im not being fr

[cloud ibex]

on this note i like to think the reason his wares are so limited at first is because traveling here was so expensive he had to sell most of his more expensive wares

[meager prism]

I headcanon the nurse is also a criminal for like house md levels of malpractice

[cloud ibex]

and he gets more supplies as you progress

[wheat walrus]

I js thought of ppl who r actually annoying abt this stuff

[pliant ruin]

ok this is badass

good headcanon

[meager prism]

Can i steal this for my comic

[cloud ibex]

considering how much of an asshole she is i can see the vision

[meager prism]

Such amazing ideas mr funkerdinckle

[wheat walrus]

Add Spectacled Bears cheese was right

[meager prism]

I wanna write a scene where the arms dealer comes back from like dying to idfk the twins as a cyborg with a machine gun in his stomach

Iykyk

[wheat walrus]

Bizarre

[meager prism]

HEARTLANDS SCIENCE IS THE GREATEST IN THE WOOOOORLLLD

[pliant ruin]

i imagine given alot of npcs r just straight up traders of various goods (merchant, dye trader, arms dealer, etc) they came from somewhere else but decided to go to the hearthlands as a opportunity to get rare items they could sell for profit that you cant really find elsewhere + selling stuff to people

[meager prism]

Kinda just bc i want him in a few fights

Like give em a power boost to fuck with plantera

Is the guide still the moon lords son in the lore

[pliant ruin]

not only are there alot of unique goods and resources exclusive to the hearthlands or otherwise found in abudance on it but there is not much competition due to the relatively small population given the hearthlands are dangerous as fuck

[meager prism]

Bc im also planning to make him powerful too

[wheat walrus]

yes fr fr

[pliant ruin]

i think the only time this was ever implied was a joke by red

[meager prism]

In like the way dante is

[pliant ruin]

who

[meager prism]

I want him to have like a fleshy devil trigger

And beating the wof would like release his full potential

[wheat walrus]

cheese is wrong every cal writer and red confirmed him being moon prince son of moon lord

yesterday too

[pliant ruin]

moon prince

🔥

[pliant ruin]

⏰

[meager prism]

Like the wof fight is gonna be like a test for the terrarian

To see if he’s ready for hardmode

[pliant ruin]

wof in calamity lore is just yharims trash disposal

before DoG showed up he used it to dispose of divine essence so things like the evil biomes dont happen again

[meager prism]

Im not gonna follow the lore for my project like one to one

Gonna add my own ideas too

[sinful adder]

There is a decent reason for this, it's because this is where the war started. It's like saying it would be weird that the world wars affected Europe the most.

[pliant ruin]

omni was being whimsical gang

[wheat walrus]

I wasn't being fr¹

[meager prism]

YEA YOU WERE

SCHRODINGERS ASSHOLE ALERT

WEEWOO

[wheat walrus]

If I was I'd js kms

[sinful adder]

Ah

Oh wait you're omni

[pliant ruin]

nothing wrong with that

[wheat walrus]

Yea

[sinful adder]

I didn't notice at first

[wheat walrus]

Fair enough

[pliant ruin]

albeit i have no idea how you'd make guide being the moon lords son an actual plot point

[stoic gulch]

Guide I am your father and then the guide guides all over moon lord

[wheat walrus]

The guide shall guide us to victory

[stoic gulch]

🔥

[pliant ruin]

guide: im guiding here!

[wheat walrus]

I'd sacrifice it all to guide you 🗣️ never have to battle alone 🔥

[meager prism]

What im thinking is like

The guide was born from the remains of humans and bits of moon lord

But like

Ugh i havent thought of the details yet

Like why would he know so much about the world

Hmmm

[pliant ruin]

I think he just knows alot because he studies n shit

Nothing he knows is like breaking the 4th wall or super obscure information or anything so its all stuff someone could reasonably know

also i think he apparently helped create the wall of flesh

remember reb saiyng something like that i forgot the specifics

[wheat walrus]

Dr House

[pliant ruin]

if he started saying "yep xeroc's full name before he ascended was _ _" then i'd start worrying about how the fuck does he know that

[young socket]

he says press escape once

[wheat walrus]

Dr House houses information

[stoic gulch]

Terrarian you lied to me you stupid fuck you don’t actually have mana sickness you have the idiot dumb disease

[pliant ruin]

thats just him being a video game tutorial character yk wim

[wheat walrus]

Remove the Terrarian's entrails and hit em w this look

[stoic gulch]

This image is cursed

[wheat walrus]

True

[deft comet]

Ok question real quick, so after the player kills Yharon we get soul fragments and in the requim page it states if dragon is laid to rest specifically in the Aerie their whole soul can be reclaimed, or taken in a case like Xeroc so is the soul of rebirth destroyed similar to Silva or the other gods? Or would there be some greater whole that would be in the Aeire

[meager prism]

NO NERDS IN MY FANFICTION

EWWWWWW

[young socket]

yharon returns to the aerie when he dies

[wheat walrus]

Nah, we just got leftover fragments of his soul while he fought us all-out (the all-out part is a discord dev statement, so its canonicity is up in the air)

The full soul remains in the aerie and Yharon will be reborn

[deft comet]

Yeah ok thats what I thought it would have been

[wheat walrus]

Ya

[pliant ruin]

Yeah, as the name says, soul fragments
We don't get his soul, just small shards of it
Yharon is still "alive" in the sense he'll be reborn later

[deft comet]

yeah i just wanted clarification if it was fragments as in soul shattered or like bits we broke off in some way

[pliant ruin]

Albeit it'll take like a few years according to what some developers said and this is implied ingame through Yharim saying Yharon "bid him farewell" (Implying that they won't see eachother again - This is because Yharon is currently dead, and Yharim is well aware he'll die before Yharon comes back.)

[young socket]

tbh i find it kinda weird this question is asked a lot considering yharim outright says yharon is going to return

[languid badge]

I feel like fragmenting someones soul could pretty easilly kill them idk

[wheat walrus]

Eeh

[pliant ruin]

You will die if you lose your entire torso but if you get a scratch on your torso and it bleeds a little you'll be fine

[wheat walrus]

Without the added context you likely wouldn't make allat out from just "he bid me farewell"

[deft comet]

I have a head cannon that Yharim will, in Yharon's state of current death having access to the soul of rebirth will do what he didnt at the beginning of his war and consume the soul to become the God of Rebirth

[pliant ruin]

Never said you would

I'm just contextualizing things

[wheat walrus]

Should've added more crumbs 😔

[cloud ibex]

that would be the most un-yharim thing ever

[pliant ruin]

Nah thats never happening

[wheat walrus]

Yea

[pliant ruin]

It would be the most possible out of character thing for yharim to do yeah and its been outright confirmed it wont

[cloud ibex]

he started a war and killed half the world's population because some people killed dragons

[languid badge]

yeah but like
its your soul
if a piece of your brain gets chipped you're probably barely functioning if alive at all
you'd think itd be something similar

[pliant ruin]

Yharim is characterized by his complete obsession and delusion towards his own ideals to the point he is completely blind to how bad it is

Him doing that would literally throw his entire crusade and characterization down the trash

[cloud ibex]

half the reason he's so against ascension is because he didn't want to do it to yharon once and he got sentenced to death over it

[pliant ruin]

idk souls can work however the narrative wants them to work

[languid badge]

true!

[cloud ibex]

his ass is NOT gonna suddenly change his mind after a century of stubborn war

[deft comet]

I mean out of all the souls I think could come back from the brink of destruction it would be the soul of rebirth

[wheat walrus]

If you absorb a soul it becomes a new thing usually

[cloud ibex]

that depends on the soul being intact

[languid badge]

I mean I guess technically
we dont know yharon will come back
yharim says he will "as he always does" but he could just be wrong for all we know

[cloud ibex]

which is uh

exactly what ascending with a soul ruins

[pliant ruin]

theoretically you could absorb yharons soul and permakill him but we don't know the ritual so

[deft comet]

to be fair it has been shown that certain souls are very prone to not going down quietly

[pliant ruin]

Most people that know it and could tell us are dead

There's like what

[cloud ibex]

thing is if you absorb someone's soul, theirs will merge with yours

[wheat walrus]

You'd just remove the soul of rebirth and create something new out of it and the absorber's soul, unless it's a "perfect" ascension like with Xeroc and Silva, who seemingly just retain the dragon's domain (but presumably stronger?)

[cloud ibex]

the whole reason all the auric dragons are dead is because their souls are functionally destroyed thanks to people ascending

[pliant ruin]

Yharim, Xeroc, Silva
Yharim yeah no hes not telling us obviously
Silva idk why she'd do that, maybe as a way to stop Yharon from being an evil asshole if he keeps being a threat afterwards but even then it'd take like a Long Time for her to reform so
Xeroc again idk why he'd do that, he probably feels alot of guilt for the whole dragon extinction/genocide thing as is not to mention and Yharon used to be his friend

also yeah dragons are Gone gone when you absorb their soul

theres no coming back for them

[languid badge]

what are you basing that xeroc characterization off of

[wheat walrus]

Even eternity could not last

:p

[wheat walrus]

Cheese cheesing

[pliant ruin]

Of the fact he literally calls Yharon his old friend

[languid badge]

this is news to me

also who is this he you speak of

[cloud ibex]

boss rush dialogue

[pliant ruin]

he

xeroc

[wheat walrus]

Emote that shall be purged when righteous judgement strikes from beyond the heavens

[pliant ruin]

it's good when the people i like use it but annoying when the people i dont like use it

its just that simple

that 🦐 le

[wheat walrus]

wrong

[stoic gulch]

It’s that 🦐le

[pliant ruin]

it's actually quite clamplicated ?

this is 🐚 erning

[languid badge]

ok but actually where is this this is the first I'm hearing xeroc having lines outside boss rush

[wheat walrus]

Boss Rush

sob

[stoic gulch]

True

[pliant ruin]

yeah he like

says it in boss rush

[languid badge]

ah I just missed it

[wheat walrus]

Kasane Teto VS Xeroc

[stoic gulch]

Kasane Teto

[deft comet]

Is it possible that perfect Ascension is when the souls willingly merge and thats why SIlva/Xeroc were perfect ascensions as Xeroc was the first and we dont know exactly what happened

[stoic gulch]

With the Teto Teto laser

[cloud ibex]

consent could be a part of it yeah

we don't really know

[pliant ruin]

This was a theory i had

But i feel like it's not Just that

[deft comet]

I mean that could lead to a way Yharim ascends

[wheat walrus]

Yharim doesn't consent

[pliant ruin]

Yharim would never ascend it's not happening 😭

Like if you want to make fanfiction or something where he does sure but it's absolutely not happening in actual calamity ever and there is no way to do so in a way that dosen't go completely against his character

[wheat walrus]

Make that "have you forgot to ask someone?" meme thing and it's a dragon and a god abt to ascend and then yharim

[cloud ibex]

yharim would much rather kill himself than ever even consider absorbing yharon's soul again

[deft comet]

I mean could it be that the dragon chooses the host? I know its not likely for Yharim's character at all and doesnt make much sense but I like thinking about how the ascension may work

[pliant ruin]

Yharim thinks all gods are inherently sinful for absorbing Dragon's souls and deluded himself into fully believing this, if he actually cared about the morality of it he wouldn't have killed several gods that were incredibly kind to their people

It dosen't matter to him if it was consensual or not because to him it's wrong regardless

[meager prism]

Yharim really is so armstrong

[pliant ruin]

His ignorance is like one of his biggest character traits and he's had this same ideology for like 100 years

[meager prism]

Yknow he sounds convincing but think abt everything for more than 3 seconds you realize how evil he is like jesus 😭

[pliant ruin]

illmeris 😍

[alpine jetty]

he’s so stubborn bro

100 years of bullshjit

[pliant ruin]

yharim looked at john evilguys book in how to be more comically evil and he was like

[alpine jetty]

HI CHEESE!!!

[languid badge]

yharim good guy mfs when

[deft comet]

No I mean like if Yharon ascends Yharim knowing he would guaranteed die without the power against us

[wheat walrus]

Yharim was right guys kill people you don't like

:p

[alpine jetty]

where were you when illmeris got hit

i can’t thpe

fuck

type

[pliant ruin]

hmmm yes
i will send my emotionally manipulated child soldier to blow up this kingdom full of innocent citizens who have nothing to do with my anti-gods rhetoric and also kill several native species in the proccess possibly causing ecological collapses all because theres 2 gods in this kingdom
also said gods are like beloved by their people and one of them single handedly stopped a civil war amongst them and brought peace to their society

[wheat walrus]

He'd rather that

[deft comet]

I mean I hope we fight Yharon again in some way it would be weird to have the dragon of rebirth only be fought once

[pliant ruin]

neither Yharon or Yharim would ever do that eachother

They have like the same exact mindset and doing that would go entirely against it

[wheat walrus]

He'd rather not become a god and lose as not a god than to become a god and win

[pliant ruin]

Again i really need to emphatize

It does NOT matter to him if its consensual or not

If he cared about the morality of it the crusade would not have happened

[alpine jetty]

i don’t like this yharim guy

[deft comet]

I know I know but like rebirth dragon only being fought once unless we in the end take Yharon's soul ourselves in the Aerie after or before we fight Yharim

[wheat walrus]

yharr 🏴‍☠️

[alpine jetty]

yharon is also a mega evil

[pliant ruin]

yharon wont be fought again hes dead

[alpine jetty]

wait what

actually

[wheat walrus]

aaagg

He will be reborn

[pliant ruin]

he'll come back but like its not a fast thing

[wheat walrus]

But it takes a long time

[alpine jetty]

ooooh ok

[pliant ruin]

yep

[wheat walrus]

Cheesebait message

[pliant ruin]

If it means anything though the phase 2 transition thing he used to have

[languid badge]

by the time yharon comes back yharim will have either been killed by us or have died of old age

[pliant ruin]

where he like goes to 0 health and looks like hes dying but then he goes GRAHHH !!! and his health goes back up

i think thats coming back

[deft comet]

And Im saying someone will take the soul before then no?

[pliant ruin]

who would though

[languid badge]

calamitas but evil, clearly

the second clone

[pliant ruin]

i've already talked about how like

nobody who knows the ritual would or can do it

[deft comet]

The thing in the DoG space whatever its called

the distortion

[alpine jetty]

noxus

?

[wheat walrus]

Can't blame on the ritual stuff since that's all dev talk on discord

[pliant ruin]

devourer died before you fight yharon

[pliant ruin]

i mean yeah but like ive been repeating myself several times

😭

[deft comet]

Devourer is a part to a greater whole possibly no?

[languid badge]

to this day the biggest cop out in the entire lore

[wheat walrus]

But are you the lore 🤨

[pliant ruin]

yes im the lore

thats me

[alpine jetty]

cheese

[deft comet]

or could be

[wheat walrus]

You're not shore, I can feel it in you

[pliant ruin]

Devourer is a servant to some being (Which is like most definitely Noxus)

But like

If Noxus could just come in and absorb stuff you'd imagine he'd have done it already and not went through the trouble of getting Devourer to do it

[pliant ruin]

chs

[languid badge]

watch it be noxis his twin sibling

[pliant ruin]

joxus

[deft comet]

but if Draedon is right and distortion beings are a hivemind DoG would have been consuming souls for the purpose of using them not destroying them no?

[wheat walrus]

amogus

[pliant ruin]

its like noxus but hes a stereotypical highschool drama movie jock

[wheat walrus]

jockus

[alpine jetty]

i’m cheeese biggest fan

[deft comet]

Because DoG leaves no traces of Divinity and if its from the distortion is it not likely those souls were just transported back there to be used by the greater hivemind in service to weaken Terraria and strenghten them

[pliant ruin]

Devourer is in fact not destroying the essence, it's implied somewhere that he's simply "sending" it somewhere else (Aka The Distortion aka Noxus)