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Unless its another case of "Yharim is dumb and stupid and dosent know what things are" but man come on thats been done already
I just do not think a light elemental is gonna happen
Uh, I guess that's what they were in the 3DS version for some reason.
maybe light can be a brimmy thing idk
would chaos elementals be a brimmy thing
Brimstone represents being broke, so she can't pay the light bills, checkmate.
no chaos elementals are another thing
French!?
eol, chaos elementals/RoD, and shimmer all feel rlly weird rn tbh bc it almost feels like there should be an explanation for them but also its rlly hard to think of what exactly could be an explanation
EoL and Chaos Elementals are not, in fact, Elementals
Unless shimmer got explained before
What r chaos elementals then
EoL will be better explained in the future
Well that settles it.
shimmer is just a lot of liquid estrogen
Chaos Elementals are beings birthed from the Hallowed Essence
Perhaps pure manifestations of it
Shimmer... you'll see in the future as well, but it's not tied to the Hallow
God of Blinking Lights theory is back on the menu boys.
There are no Elementals other than the main five (Anahita, Sandies, Brimmy, Cloudy, Silva) and their offshoots (such as Ice and Granite Elementals)
R.I.P Spectral Elemental.
World soul was the soul elemental
What if Distortion has its own messed up Elementals because it has different rules.
YEAH!!!!!!!!!!!!
The explanation will certainly not involve her being a cat.
There are none.
That's it I'm flushing you down the toilet
Distortion elementals:
- Magic elemental
- Blood elemental
- Decay elemental
- Cocaine elemental
||Wait these are just the Chaos Gods from 40K||
Lore question: does the Meth Elemental have a goatee?
No, did too much meth, hair fell out.

Why didn't Calamitas just say no to comitting war crimes? Is she stupid?
Don't you know, you can't be turned into a living weapon if you just say no.
Plus it was for a cause she started off believing in, due to the Yharimist propaganda in Azafure + her indoctrination by Yharim and education by Permafrost
Do you think there were Azafurians that were racist towards humans that didn't have horns.
Probably
Should've been incinerated sooner. That would've put a big dent in his war effort at a much better time for it to happen
Still on about that, that was yesterday man.
Me switching on my time machine to teleport Brimmy and Cal 100 years into the past
Oh yeah good idea
meow
Just go back, kill baby Yharim, what could possibly go wrong?
Except the sure establishment of a divine theocracy.
No, no cats, don't encourage him.
That would be an improvement over not killing him
Besides, wasn't the divine theocracy already an established thing?
And it worked just fine, as a functional civilization
No, it would go into overdrive as they would just get someone else to become God King.
And with a unified leader, the gods would only cement their grip.
...what cementing is needed
Sometimes you need to repave over potholes.
what potholes
Exactly.
yeah so theres no fucking reason to say they would cement their grip
What?
The monolithic "the gods" as a whole "cementing their grip" doesn't seem so bad when you remember that gods like Tyrian and Otounilou, as well as all the similar ones who were devoured by the DoG, exist and don't not exist
Providence 2.
who would win
one god
or all the other gods
I mean, one god if that god is Xeroc.
you know exactly what i mean
I don't, you're not being very clear.
do not try to semantics your way out of this
???
i think this is fairly clear as to what im referring to
Considering that the world still isn't a massive field of ash makes me think that Provy's not as effective as you seem to think. The Profaned Cult seems like it was basically just a terrorist group back during the civilization of the Deific Era, that needed to be beaten down heavily on occasion, but was usually well-contained by the other gods' efforts
I'm not saying Providence is strong? Not the point I'm making?
Well, she is strong but not threat to the world strong.
Then why is some hypothetical "Providence 2" your massive concern?
then why say providence 2
Because a powerful, malicious god that amassed leadership of not just followers but other gods would be a bit of a bigger danger.
this hinges on the assumption that all gods are inherently malicious
Making Yharim a God-King just means making him a god who is a king, not a king of gods
No it doesn't?
It's pretty heavily implied by god king he would be king of gods. What else would he be king of? Belgium?
People
God-king, as a title, is in the same format as god-emperor, i.e. an emperor who is a god. Not an emperor of gods
Why couldn't it be.
no in this case that is what it means
Hm?
in the case of yharim it does in fact mean king of gods
because i read the lore item and realized "oh well why would there be multiple gods pushing for a god-king if its just a regular ass god that rules a place"
Fair enough, I will concede that
But you're also right that "multiple gods" is far from "all gods"
Having someone crowned as 'King of Gods' is a very good excuse to demand subjugation and conquer.
Especially if that individual is very belligerent.
Now, who did they want for this title? Someone who would commit genocide at the drop a hat?
Which would probably go far differently than Yharim's actual crusade
I am of the opinion that if Yharim became God King, a crusade of some form would have happened anyway.
Yharim built much of his early appeal on fighting against the evil gods. Where would his appeal be if he were fighting for the evil gods against the rest of the world?
He would simply claim that he is the good god, and he is forcing order on the chaotic, maleovent ones.
It might've started somewhat similarly, but it would've ended way differently
They refuse order and prosperity, thus they are evil.
He has divine right, to oppose him would be to oppose destiny.
And how many people would believe any of that? Far fewer than those who joined him with his actual approach
a strong god commands a lot of power both physically and politically
What, the people who followed him because 'we must destroy the tyranical, evil gods' wouldn't fall for 'we must destroy the tyranical, evil gods'?
Not if he was crowned by them
If he's the King of Gods, he has pretty good control of the narrative.
He wasn't crowned by evil gods, they are his esteemed cabinet.
Again, as was stated before, he would be proclaimed by the evil gods who wanted to make him king of all gods. I doubt he would have good control of the narrative, because other gods who aren't part of that evil cabal also exist, and they would also have much to say
(Also, consider that as a mortal Yharim is the second strongest being in this world, he would be quite a power as a god.)
Second strongest being after his crusade, of course, with his attunement to Yharon and his Auric armor
He would have absorbed the soul of Yharon, and be a literal immortal deity.
Would he even need Auric armour at that point?
And if he needs a boost, he could still hire Draedon, nothing preventing that.
If anything, they might work better together, since God King Yharim would likely be a bit more lenient on slavery.
So let's say he became as powerful as, say, Providence. He leads the evil gods and launches a crusade against the rest of the world. He doesn't get Draedon, because I highly doubt Draedon would see the same potential in him. (Yharim was backed by the god of dogma, which became part of the Corruption and its Hive Mind, which would be anathema to Draedon's goals) The subsequent war would be costly, but it would not be as destructive as Yharim's crusade actually was
Of course, this version of Yharim would likely be even more of a tyrant, and likely permit slavery, so I'd say life in his empire would be even more dystopic.
And with his main targets likely be more benevolent gods that would refuse to submit, it isn't a pretty picture.
It would also not last as long, since this version of Yharim would be defeated
By whom?
His enemies. Who else?
That's not really a good argument. Our Yharim almost got killed by his enemies, who's to say that one would also only almost be killed.
Just 'he would lose' needs a bit more of a backing.
Far different circumstances
Then what specific faction or individual do you think would take him down.
Best odds lets say.
Anyway, I'm tired of this pointless discussion, so I'll just let you believe whatever you want to believe
Not when it's with a brick wall
If the Gods retry their plot to absorb Yharon's soul, it would very likely be a worse scenario
No, not really
stip jumpscare
Yeah, this
was Braelor x Statis always a thing or nah
what
Yeah, they're woke.
u mean statis?
There would probably be some form of rebellion but not only would it be a lot weaker due to not having an Auric Dragon on their side, it would also get squashed pretty heavily by God-King Yharim
hi stip
right
I meant the crusade would be led by Yharim.
Like, he would do that whether or not he was god king.
what does initially mean
God king yharim vs god seeker yharim
That's the real question.
when they were first a thing, or at least their current incarnation
Hello!
Goodbye
Hi.
they were always a gay couple afaik
when they were planned to be a boss
So you mean a scenario where Yharim becomes God-King but rebels against his masters
Not really, I think Yharim's dispostion means he would have ended up leading some kind of grand war.
so yharim would be a puppet king?
Whether this be against those who oppose him, him learning he's a puppet, or against some other force.
Yes
That was the whole plan
Like, it's obvious he was going to be a puppet.
Evil Gods wouldn't really make a stronger God, meant to be a ruler, if they don't benefit from said rule
(My original idea for the scenario was he wages war on the Distorion/Devourer of Gods to set an example or cement his rule, but their could be a wide arrange of things that would 'justify' crusading.)
And considering the chief deity in that sect was the God of Dogma, you'd think they wouldn't want to actually surrender control
I still hope we get to know at least one of the gods that tried to make-
did he even know the distortion existed before dog rolled up
is that a lore drop?
Yeah it's like N in Pokémon.
Nah I think people already knew it
I've never heard of that before
Never mind what I was going to say then.
oh
when talking about evil2 reworks
So like, my hypothetical I thought of a while ago is that God-King Yharim would just, like, invade to prove his worth or something. Probably kill DoG in the process.
Get himself some Cosmilite armour.
Since he wouldn't have Auric Tesla.
Oh yeah
Have this
Dank Creeper
Divine puppeteers beheld incessantly through their devotees, an organic panopticon for a wicked hive mind. Their word was truth, and evidence otherwise was burned. Even in decay, they summon subjects to creep, spy and kill.```
Heh, good thing I know what panopticon means.
I've revealed Hive Blob a long time ago, and I'm leaving Dark Heart for the release
Dark Shart
I guess more of what I was thinking is that Yharim would take basically any reason to start a crusade if he deemed it 'just'. So if he became a God-King, it would only be so long before he wages a war against someone or something for one reason or another.
Hell, I wouldn't be surprised that in a scenario where Yharim wasn't chosen for being God-King, he'd have led the rebellion himself.
"Evidence otherwise was burned" I wonder what that's about
Evidence that asbestos is harmless 
God-King Yharim and his council of the God of Dogma, God of Propaganda, God of Control, God of Fealty and God of Communications.
What could possibly go wrong?
God of Microsoft Teams
That's their tech guy.
We're fugged
What, you want the God of iOS to take over? I think not.
i gotta finish making my fan made dragons and/or gods
The God of Linux, except he only accepts being called the God of GNU/Linux, and prefers to call himself the God of GNU + Linux
God of Skype found dead in a ditch.
No, the God of MS teams ascended with the soul of the Dragon of Skype
I'm tryna design auric dragons of magentism, decay, and tectonics
Magentism, like the color magenta? ||jk||
No, you're thinking of Margarita, an alcoholic drink. Magnetism is the wife of Homer Simpson.
Joke: YOU SPELLED IT WRONG!!!!!!!!!!!
im not in the mood for jokes, i found one of my dogs dead less than an hour ago
oh
Bro!?
I'm sorry to hear 
oh god i'm sorry to hear that
My condolences
Okay so I'm going over the noxus thing again, does the necrozma-like writing (escapes the distortion through the rift, eats the light of the sun and then the aerie) fit enough since I have no clue how I should write it
take your time to rest
i know losing a buddy like that is never easy :< i hope it lived a happy life
Just do what you want, Noxus has very little lore right now.
Oh holy fuck, my condolences
nvm it was more than an hour ago, closer to two hours
no.
That's reasonable.
My condolences
See, he cares about the environment. Truly a heroic individual.
truth duke
I have just made an error. I see now why so many in this server choose to not read.
I mean
I don't blame him for not being ok with unleashing the ultron virus part 2
To be honest Yharim has done so many war crimes ATP that it just seems like another to add to the list
Even before the virus
there's a line between war crimes and ecological devastation on a planetary scale
Crimson and Corruption moment, though tbf they were accidents early in his career
And aren't as bad as uh
I mean
The plague
in his defence
he did something about the crimson and corruption
not a full measure but still
I still don't get why his response to a biomechanical plague was just "smash everything" but still
Yharim is clearly a very reasonable and forward thinking person
I mean
he doesn't seem to be completely idiotic
dude knew enough military history to make draedon at least take note of it
Hey, if he didn't groom that teen, somebody worse would have done it instead, so he's basically a hero, she should thank him.
Not really. It's a combination of a vendetta and a lack of foresight/inability to look at his mistakes.
At least
Until it was too late
he doesn't come acrosss as smooth brained enough to attack things random
Yharim fully believes the crusade was a good idea. He only regrets how he did it.
If he could, he'd do it again, but better.
And recruiting DoG, and betraying his allies...
I think he regrets
A) How sloppily he did it
B) Being unable to finish it
There are quite a few things he'd change.
But he would do it again.
No question.
hopefully the mass civilian casualties
No, he probably would still do that.
emphasis on hopefully
He doesn't seem that remorseful for Civilian Obliterator 17000.
(Skeletron Prime.)
emphasis on hopefully
I think you're hopemaxxing too close to Xeroc.
But he'd probably groom less kids this time.
And actually handle his problems.
hope is the only thing keeping me going right now
anyways
I don't get why draedon was ok with skeletron prime
From observation.
I think he just accepts the civilian deaths as "acceptable casualties of war".
He regrets the things, in his mind, that he could've "controlled". Like preventing the corruption and crimson from becoming a permanent stain
he doesn't have any morals but he also is aware of PR
Who doesn't want to make a robot skeleton with a chain saw, lasers, and two other arms
I'd prefer an exoskeleton
he didn't care about pr when fucking the sulphur sea further into the ground
i'm talking about draedon
I said draedon cares about pr
Draedon just does shit if he thinks it's interesting
I mean that probably disappeared once shit like the corruption starts going around.
Oh oops, thought this was about yharim
It's hard to do good PR when the grass suddenly becomes either rotten or covered with gore
Y'know?
having his name be attached to the civilian killer 3000 doesn't seem like something he'd be proud of
Nah Draedon would be proud of it if it did good at its purpose
He isn't because it wasn't good enough
I'd say Yharim has morals, in contrast to Draedon, who has none.
Yharim wasn't mad about the Plague being powerful
He isn't moral though.
I never said he was
It's like looking back at your old drawings or artwork and cringing at it
Plague is too close to slavery.
That's what Draedon feels like with the Mechas
He was mad about it unwillingly subjecting creatures to torturous conditions
yes
Kinda like how he put Calamitas though immense stress as a living weapon.
Byeah
It's not that his response was "smash everything"
It's that it infuriated him enough that he ended up smashing everything
stip can you confirm that the underworld draedon log mentions silva being in the abyss before year 0
Oh come on man.
Yes, I can confirm
nice
Find yourself someone who wants to be with you as much as the Abyss wants to be with Silva
I feel like Yharim is somebody who believes
"The Ends justifies the means".
If he traveled back to the beginning. He'd still do the crusade. But he's at least do stuff like contain the corruption and crimson better.
In his mind, the casualties from the wars are acceptable losses.
Permanent damage to Terraria, or too much pain on people are considered cruel for him.
Yes ends justify the means is his main justification.
Doesn't matter how many he kills, who he allies with, who he betrays so long as the job is done.
his singular thought is "every god must die"
Like, he doesn't torture puppies for fun, but if it gave him a tactical advantage, he would.
the plague was bad but yharim has done so many, much worse things that him crashing out so badly over it while he does far worse himself just makes him seem pathethic
Basically "If a civilian dies because a soldier accidentally shot their laser gun at them. Fine.
A zombie plague released and it isn't killing a God? Unacceptable."
Again, Calamitas was arguably close to being a slave in practice.
but it's different you don't understaaaaaaaaaaand /s
...at least she didn't get sexually groomed
God I hope not

Woah, Yharim isn't that kinda bad guy.
Yeah
That's Deathstroke you're thinking of.
PFFT
Not Yharim, doesn't befit his character.
That wouldn't get him closer to killing a god.
So why bother?
...y'know the worst part is that.
Slade's voice from Teen Titans 2003 is actually what I imagine when Yharim talks
And he presents himself as a hero, there's nothing heroic about that.
That blunt yet smooth voice
Never watched that.
It's pretty good
But that's why Deathstroke is top tier in Child Abuse Scaling.
Still a cartoon made for all ages so there's definitely some childish shit. But Deathstroke only has slight hints instead of y'know
Whatever the fuck they did in the original comic
Jesus christ
How did that get through editorial
glad i'm not a dc fan rn
A lot got through editorial back in the day.
can we not talk about this maybe
Yes, let's drop the matter.
Agreed
gif didnt work so im killing it
Like civilian in glorious Yharim empire.
What on earth is that gif.
Anyways, do I wish that calamity will eventually get a biome for like
god of chains being blown up with nukes
Yharim's destroyed kingdom
Why does God of Chains have woke hair?
theyre woke
they have like purple hair but i guess theres blue in there for some reason
Yet Woker.
hi
hi john vcmm
yes like god of chains from hit mod calamity
yharim uses the torch god to geth igh
Thanks for the theory.
not theory
true
FACT
Seriously though, I do wish that there were biomes that were outright ruined cities.
Aside from the Underworld
FACT CHECKED By TRUE CALAMITY PATROIT
S
How long has it been since I last saw Domo?
Like Yharim supposedly destroyed a lot of kingdoms
Duck Life 3?
Guh
No.
thank god
We only explore a part of the world.
-# why is this even being brought up god help me
There are other places off map.
fr bruh
anyways that goliath sure brings the plague! #swag
That moment when hypocrisy!
I stopped talking about that. Get with the times
how do drugs fit into the lore #thewarondrugswaswonbydrugs

Yharim does steroids.
yharim's stimulants
I'm old!
Honestly, probably her own magic
i forgot what i was supposed to test
Apparently drives her insane
No I mean she should see a mental health professional.
Yeah, but Yharim murdered them all
Drugs are the second best thing
Bitch she is the opposite of a mental health professional
Due to the traumas and genocides and general horrors.
Close enough.
Are gods like drugs to DoG?
Is wotg canon?
No.
no
No addons are canon
Confirmed?
yes
Yes?
I'm a dev
The creator of wotg is represented in base calamity though
they're a former dev
That's a dev item.
^
wotg still isn't canon
Ahhh I seee
Dedicated items don't really have anything to do with lore
Fair enough
they don't exist
And yeah, it's a former dev
Makes sense
I like Catalyst. Astrageldon is a fun boss
Stupid ass requirement though
Astrageldon isn't real. You need to wake up.
This is totally unrelated to anything btw
I remember commenting on this somewhere before, but
Yharim genuinely abhors that sort of blatant, dominant enslavement due to his trauma; he's had a terrible experience with it he wouldn't wish to his worst enemies
That said, the manipulation those Gods tried to exert on him did not work - he doesn't acknowledge it as enslavement, or at least not on the same disgusting, traumatizing level he places explicit dominance
Never, funny space slime is supreme.
Goopy Oopy

So weaponizing Calamitas is fair game to him since he never technically forced her. Only heavily encouraged.
It's quite the irony that he perpetuated and perfected the manipulation used by the people he hated most in all of his life
Pretty much
You'll see eventually that it didn't take much encouragemente, all things considered
Blah blah blah "Abusers are often the products of trauma" blah blah blah "pain is often passed on through generations as a result that inevitably harms more and more"
Calamitas' mental state was not in a condition to make reasonable decisions
Like sure, treachery to his cause is a death sentence, but you can leave, Permafrost.
yes that's correct
But also yes she was an impressionable teenager wanted vengeance and an outlet etc.
You mean a little girl that lost her brothers and destroyed her entire city in a blind rage with outright forbidden magic might not be in her best mind?
Nahhh
Can't be
Still super manipulative.

"Nah trust, she asked me to do it."
- Yharim
Also, someone claimed earlier that Calamitas attacked Ilmeris until she literally passed out, is this correct?
She's not an evil person by nature, but she was pushed off the deep end
Who said that....?
Not sure, but it was like a day or so ago.
melongun maybe
If it was not a dev, it's not true
If it is a dev, I need to talk to them lol
Honestly I had a super fucked up idea.
Clonemitas starts off as the eye. Or whatever respite form would be. Then her second phase reveals just...
A mutated child overflowing with calamity.
Congratulations you have to kill a kid now
She's probably been artificially aged older.
We're not putting explicit child murder in the mod
Through science stuff.
Remember, this game is rated T
Yeah I know. Just thought about like "How do I make this more horrifying".
T for Tear society apart.
Believe me I have thought of stuff of that caliber
Agreed
I would advise looking into the lore of No Eyes in Hollow Knight
Really grim shit
Of course, if you're appropriately aged
Age ratings exist for a reason
Hey, if we go by time, Clone still has to be like less then ten, so close enough! :)
@cosmic zenith
Where did you get this from, melon gun?
I have thought of making a funny mod once. Nothing more than a split second thought.
Where Clonemitas becomes an NPC. If only for Calamitas's actual reaction.
"WHY IS THERE A CLONE OF ME HERE?"
Calamitas knows there's a clone of her
Unless I have them confused for someone else.
They'll see this message tomorrow
Yeah. It's more shock that one of them is living near her.

Casually
On a related note, i should sleep. But I won't. Such is life.
No, 3am at Greenwich.
Yeah again, I just thought of a mod where Calclone becomes an NPC.
Idk what mechanic I would add to her. But I imagined just a mutated child NPC basically.
It says so on the top of my phone here.
Also the idea is kinda cute
I'd have her be part of some Permafrost quest line thing whatever.
Yeah basically
But Clone probably looks exactly like Calamitas apart from the scar (unless it's actually just a weird birthmark, for some reason???)
Most likely. It would be interesting if she had a bunch of mutations on her
Like the magic is so unwieldly that it's affecting the clone physically
Draedon is a pretty good scientist, and I'd argue that kinda magic would more likely give her burns.
So more Darth Vader then anything.
So she ends up looking like Tetsuo
True but she broke out of his lab
And probably is unstable mentally and physically
No, Calamitas broke her out.
She's unstable due to Calamitas giving her some of her power.
Also, Calamitas knew the clone existed, and attacked Draedons' lab presumably to liberate her clone.
So why does Calclone look.. like that
She probably didn't expect the clone to immediately go insane
Old sprite.
outdated
so cal clone is just like a 9 year old freakin out right
ahhhhh
It's not clear of she intentionally or accidently gave her power.
yeah cus old cal used to look similar too right
Nine is in the high end.
Tbh I hope they keep the eye form in some regard.
I know that there's plans to remove it. But it just feels way too iconic honestly
And it's somewhat comforting.
i actually don't know
But Clone lacked the mental fortitude...
i'd assume she's the same age as cal
wait so like if we get cal clone as an npc is she just gonna talk about dolls and toy trains and shit
I'm imagining Calamitas going to a kid her and being like
"HEY KIDDO CHECK OUT THIS!"
shows her forbidden brimstone magic
"AAUUUGGH'
@spare pier is calclone the same age as calamitas?

Clone likely looked exactly like Calamitas at the time physically, sans any obvious environmental changes.
I think it could be cool if calclone looked like this because it was freed before it was fully complete 😁
thabk yoy
And Clone probably was only ever around Draedon.
im the lore rewriter now
I forgot to change our names here
Also imagining the forbidden magic being like
Calculus or something. God knows I feel like it's forbidden magical runes.
That girl knows nothing about how to act socially.

Are you saying physically or...?
do you reckon draedon was a good father 
mentally
yuh
Probably looks the exact same from when she was cloned but way diff now
oh
both ig
i meant mentally
I would not even trust Draedon even with a microwave.
hi rebecca
He'd either make it super cool or a machine that eats babies
I don't really know, honestly, it's one of those things we'll decide exactly when we get there
Or both
Chronologically, obviously not. Physically, more or less.
Mentally, that's an interesting question.
he definitely was the coolest dad. can you imagine some superintelligent robot picking you up from school
How far away was the cloning of cal to the events of the game?
"yeah my dad built god slaying machines 🥱 "
tbh i would've settled for a dad in the first place
Less then ten years ago about.
But longer then a year ago.
So I kinda go for her being like, 8-5 maybe?
Honestly
Now I really want to make a Clonemitas AU
Fuck
i kinda want her to just be a kid physically and mentally
So I'd just imagine our scal we see is probably still very similar looking to the clone
it would be funny
Physically no chance, no killing kids for Terrarian.
like a whole ass toddler
yes
"goo goo gaga"
you look up in the sky and it's just a floating baby calclone with a diaper on
Mentally, well, her development emotionally would likely be stunted by being raised as a science experiment by Draedon of all people.
You're making my urges to make an AU worse

She'd probably make Calamitas look well adjusted in comparison.
She was raised on war and magic so I can't imagine she would even realize what a healthy upbringing would look like
Clone was little more then a science experiment that didn't lead anywhere.
alternate universe
Alternate Universe.
oooh ok
basically fanfic
SOMEONE wasnt a huge undertale nerd kid back in 2016
LMAOOO my thoughts exactly
It's an alternative scenario to allow a widely different narrative on a different premise using the same roster.
Ink sans created scal, she is an au of sans
yeah LOL
That's why she traps you in a box
undertale really popularised the concept of au's even though it existed well before
Like, I don't know, Calamity but it's a school and Yharim is the principal or something, or some other cliché.
Undertale AU's took over the fandom after the games release and it's a good majority why the game would have a reputation of cringe and obsession
Or where everythings evil and screwed up and has sharp teeth.
sounds peak..
Yharim would be the principal because he is just the leader but does not do the actual teaching
He has great comedic synergy with Superintendent Xeroc.
calamitas would've been massively mischaracterised
Yes.
probably suffer the same fate as chara
Double yes.
because morally grey characters cant exist
👍
Permafrost is the cool teacher.
either "calamitas is an innocent sweet baby angel who did nothing wrong" or "calamitas is a fucking evil BITCH'
Permafrost is the one male science teacher you have that is actually just a guy that got roped into teaching kids
Chara made Calamitas do it.
Calamitas is the main character and its her going through the absolute most traumatic school life imaginable.
The author is projecting.
Draedon is the borderline military instructor teacher that has no place in a school and everyone hates but will never act up around
LMAOO YES
ABSOLUTELY
You get it.
Noxus is the principal of a rival school.
Oh god
Yhon is the school mascot
Powerscaling would be hell in the calamity universe
If it was undertale-levels of popular
Unrecognisably extrapolated in characterisation, he's our Gaster.
Devourer is the Jock stereotype.
Guys calamitas destroyed ten whole worlds and that was only 0.001% of her full power...
Holy shit yes DoG is the jock bully
But he's in the fandom form
And his fugly ass friend Signus
Statis and Braelor are the gay stereotypes.
LMAO
noxus is his rich influential dad
Dad is the football coach aswell
He's basically our Gaster.
Oh okay
So everything about himself made up.
what about him though
And he's just put up against Xeroc because of course he would be.
kill
Signus and Storm Weaver are Devourers yes men who are always by his side.
signus and dog are in LOVE
Like I said, fugly ass friends LMAO
But Signus is actually the more sensitive one.
SECRETLY GAY BULLY LMAO
Providence is the queen bee stereotype (sorry Queen Bee.)
silva is the principal
Silva is essentially Starfire personality
Come on, what else would he be?
the mayor
You understand.
You do t get the premise, it's a school au, so everyone is ham fisted into the school.
No matter what.
Exactly
So Yharim's principle, and Xeroc is superintendent.
And Noxus leads the rival school. They're all like overly perfect there.
silva's the nurse then
Prov is the grumpy bitchy math teacher
Unlike the wacky and crazy school Calamitas is going too!!!1!
No Providence is the queen bee archetype.
With her three bratty kids that are also enrolled in the school and use the excuse "my mom's a teacher" to get away with being NEEERRRRDS
Guardians are her fellow cheerleader friends who all inexplicably are Californian.
I study media, I've figured out how these things work.
Providence is the mean girl.
provi is the mean popular girl and otonilou is the nice popular girl
Zeratros is the old principle Yharim looks up to.
Now you're getting it.
He has a picture of him on the wall and everything
Amidias is the nice young teacher who's in over his head.
I have the imagine Yharim is like Glam from Metal Family
It fits my head canon for this school au
He is exceedingly mischaracterized as basically Papyrus.
LMAO
Slime God is the weird kid.
Who's our Alphys?
ravager 
Good question.
slime god is the queer band kid
LMAO
Ravager is our amalgamate along with the other amalgamates.
But Ravager is alive and he's the guidance councillor.
The worms have to be like a group of kids that play D&D in the one kids basement while the sneak a beer out of their dad's mini fridge
Hive Mind is just Berdly.
theyre also annoying though because theyre such an outwardly nice person
Destroyer specifically thinks he's too good for the group and would be the one to try to become "cool" in college
The regular Mechs are the delinquents.
Exo Mechs, despite being younger in game are their cool older brothers they try to be like.
destroyer is the person who think hes a sigma and watches joe rogan but he actually just has social anxiety and no friends
As I said, delinquents.
wait
with this message i meant devourer
Exo's are the 4th years that everyone is somehow chill with
oh he does have a posse
Ye
signus the sigma
Storm weaver and sig
Certainly.
Devourers a jerk, but he's on the sports team.
The author doesn't know anything about sports so they don't specify.
Plantera I have to imagine is just the most basic white girl you ever damn meet
LMAO
Loves plants, loves animals, very protective
Queen bee is mentioned but currently out sick (plaguebringer)
True.
Queen Bee is in her emo phase
They are for some reason merged as a character.
Author misunderstood the lore there.
Calamitas is also obviously a self insert.
Painfully obvious.
Queen Bee and Plague bringer are the same character with DID
Skeletron is actually a stolen theatre prop puppeted by the clothier for shits and giggles
Polterghast is Calamitas conscience anthropomorphized.
LMAO like that one kid from Victorious that has a puppet
Eye of Cthulhu is a kid with glasses.
who is calamitas tho
Main character.
Self insert, get up to speed
yes
cause thats me
Self insert. Gets up to wacky hijinks in her crazy school.
It is obvious projection.
what do cataclysm and catastrophe do
Older brothers
But they graduated.
YESSS
Anahita is a choir kid with an emotional support dog
I love how this is mutually agreed upon
theyre both literally just georgie from young sheldon
Inspired.
See, as we go on, you see the vision I see for this woefully cliché misadventure someone had made in the world where Calamity and Undertale swapped places.
Oh wait! She should also be super into astrology
Vibes
No notes.
Old duke is definitely the teacher that should be a nursing home and is out 90% of the year
Tries to copy her older sister
Flanderised annoying sister.
who r draedon and permafrost again
I love how calamity is so about destruction and violence and war and god killing and this community is like
Her styling, her behavior, but get aggressive when anybody tries to point it out
Strict teacher and cool teacher.
permafrost has history teacher vibes
cool (literally) and cool (metaphorically)
Drae is the military officer like teacher, Permafrost is just a guy that teaches and is everyone's favorite
Permafrost is the cool tea her right.
then who's the football coach
Golem.
the horrors
Yes
He loves the outdoors and soaking up some sun.
Lunatic cultist is inexplicably the stoner
LMAO
LOL
He's the weird teacher.
Chemistry teacher
who would the primordial wyrm be?
No, Yharim runs an educate together school, they do ethics instead.
DoG’s weird cousin
He definitely include religious bullshit in his lessons even though they are not related at all
it's a secret boss so it could be the most introverted guy or something
jared calamity mod
EMO KID
LMAO
Wyrm's the drug dealer guy.
REAL
Jared secretly sells green to Lunatic Cultist
Devourer is his biggest customer, but he can't let anyone know because reputation is everything in high school.
this could relate the cultist and the wyrm
LMAO
yes
amazing
He creeps out kids that just look at him, but talking to him is chill as fuck
He once tried to become principal but lost his degree due to some reason or other.
Following yharon mascot dragonfolly is the one they tried to phase in for a year or two but everyone hated it so they went back
He doesn't talk about it much.
he tells the most insane lore from his young days
pbg is the kid whos always sick
We did that one, but yeah.
someone said earlier that it could be queen bee but sick
She's also queen bee because the author misunderstood that part of the lore.
yeha that
Shit who have we not done im drawing blanks
empress of light 
Dragonfolly to me is like the old mascot before Yharim came to be principal
Desert Scourge and Aquatic Scourge are brothers and opposites.
the astrum fellas
Said
Empress is just 100% the pretty girl
shes prom queen
She's like Providences rival.
wait wait
permafrost: chemistry teacher
old duke: history teacher
cultist: ???
god of dogma: theology teacher
astrum deus (phase 2) could be identical twins
And DoG is in a relationship with Peov but secretly wishes he could be with EoL
astrum deus is two guys in a trench coat
Astrum aureus is the only kid who gets along with draedon and no one can figure out how
no dog wouldnt date a god
hes basically the equivalent to being an incel for gods
or he would but only because it's obligatory
It's a hate triangle.
and he keeps trying to remove it or replace it with ethics or sometihng
amazing lore
all gods are the same...
So is dating EoL?
LMFAO
They always butt heads as Yharim wants a secular school.
Oh wait I forgot DoG and Sig are secretly gay
But Dogma wants to introduce a religion class.
DoG is homophobic, Signus is gay.
King& queen slime?
The couple.
I could imagine the mech bosses always getting in trouble and having yharim chasing them through halls or something
That's the extent of their character.
Wait i forgot queen slime is slime god pt 2
How does that work
slime god parents
THE couple?
You get it.
skeletron is the ugly kid everyone makes fun of
I wonder if this convo is even related to the topic of this chat but I love it so much lmao
Lore is lore
DoG, Providence and Empress all hate each other.
skeletron could have a whole movie about this little bit of lore
goozma is slime god's cool older brother
They compete for the same general position as most popular.
true
#lore-discussion would never get off topic right guys?
No, this is character analysis.
It's just how would a 15 year old Undertale fan in 2016 perceive the characters?
skeletron is like august from wonder in my mind
this could potentially expand the lore of each character and only make them feel more alive, trust
And I think we are doing a great job so far.
YEAH THIS
Hive Mind is the nerd.
wall of flesh is the school bathroom
Perforators are triplets and their big brother.
Vile
I remember someone earlier compared it to berdly
OH
Wall of Flesh is the fat guy. That's it.
GOD
That was me.
oh yeah
He's Berdly.
I could imagine that lmao
Eater of Worlds is the guy who asks for a bite of others lunches.
what about brain of chtulhu?
Eater of worlds is that one kid in the friend group who eats half the menu and is still skinny
Also a nerd.
a "small" one
But even more arrogant.
🔥
perf hive is the quarterback
Hive mind is like Berdly, but BoC is way worse.
BoC is literally a giant brain
Perforator is triplets and their big brother in the class ahead.
Also, everyone has a humanised design.
why is lore discussion discussing the bosses in a school au
It is alarmingly obvious which anime is the authors favourite based on the designs.
have we gone so mad without spoilers
draedon from terraria calamity mod would say "why not?"
Which anime is left as an exercise to the reader.
Whichever makes the funniest design.
Astrum deus keeps getting asked if he and DoG are siblings and is really sick of it by this point
True.
would astrum deus be in the phase 1 or 2 form?
DoG is somehow never asked
He's from a different country, making it extra weird.
it divides into two smaller worms so it could be twins
He's two faced.
And he has a messed up side due to Astral Infection.
Tragic, I know.
Skin condition
I imagine he would act gollum with his nice and bad sides fighting constantly trying to come out on top
Astrum Aureus is the autism stereotype.
NOOOOO
The author didn't know any better.
i hate that makes sense
this gave me the mental image of astrum aureus with an undertale shirt for some reason
I have no idea
Wait
Cnidrion is Calamitas' loveable pet.
This is worse now
Oof.
Alright I need a fact check so far
Someone make a highschool au lore document.
Scal: Main Character, Self Insert of author, quiet, shy, anxious
Xeroc: Superintendent/BOE
Yharim: Principal
Permafrost: "cool" history teacher
Old Duke: Grumpy math teahcer
Draedon: Strict military like science teacher
Cultist: "Ethics" teacher, Stoner, Brings up religion a LOT
Golem: Sports Coach
Mech Trio: Delinquents
Exo Mechs: Cool Seniors everyone is chill with
DoG: Jock/Bull, Homophobic (on the surface)
Signus: DoG's right hand, Secretly gay
Storm Weaver: Scrawny member of DoG's posse
EoL: the pretty girl
Prov: Queen archetype
Prov Guards: Prov's bratty Posse
Hive Mind: nerd
BoC: BIGGER NERD
EoC: slightly less nerdy
Jared: Drug dealer - main customers being DoG and Cultist
Slime god: Unbelievably ugly
King & Queen Slime: Been dating since middle school
I'm not doing it it's nearly 4am.
oh woah
Was already on it LMAO
Yeah mostly right.
yeah this looks right to me
Providence is a Queen Bee archtype.
I got that
…
Jared?
Dogma is the ethics teacher but he misses the days when he though religion.
?????
Wyrm.
Oooooh
I haven't been in the community for a bit sec, what the fuck is a dogma
god of dogma
The guy who tried to make Yharim God King, among others.
Ah
Well, he's one of them.
this is like how in the ultrakill community they call the earthmover "benjamin"
the main god in hive mind
So what does cultist teacg
Chemistry I guess.
theology
I like that trend of naming powerful bosses a basic human name
Funny rock/maurice
no that's permafrost
Dogma used to teach theology but Yharim made him change to an ethics class.
I like to thank that it's this and yharim hates him but only keeps him in because it's legally required to have that class
There isn't theology in Yharims school cause he hates gods, that's why it's changed to ethics
Ok, Cultist is biology, and he's obbessed with dinosaurs.
yeah
silva is biology
What was old duke again
Because duke fishron
She's the gardener.
old duke is history teacher
very old teacher I think
Old Duke is absolutely history, you're right.
i thought that was plantera
I thought that could be permafrost but that works well too lmao
Duke fishron is the military kid
They can have more then one gardener.
old duke works even better
draedon's favorite if it even makes sense
Plantera is the plucky new hire, but Silva is the old experienced one. They have crazy sub-plots.
who's the math teacher
That can be Cultist.
No Old Duke's history.
And he's geumpy
Duke Fishron is his grandson who thinks he's too cool for school.
Wait wait but then what does Perma teach cause I thought he was the cool history teacher
Cryogen is that one vending machine that just eats your money occasionally
chemistry
LMAO
permafrost is yharim's advisor(?) so he could have a similar charge?
amazing
Permafrost is chemistry and is also Calamitas' dad and gives her advice often.
