lore-discussion

[wanton pendant]

But no real slaves.

[icy veldt]

slaves """"""citizens""""""

[wanton pendant]

She could leave whenever she wanted.

[icy veldt]

There, happy now?

[pliant ruin]

I imagine there have been atleast a few cases of people who used to be on Yharim's side turning to gods

[wanton pendant]

Of course, she'd be then sentenced to death if she ever showed her face around there again.

[pliant ruin]

And honestly, vice-versa aswell

Maybe in a situation where they felt betrayed by their gods

[wanton pendant]

Like Permafrost. He could leave. He then had a hit put on him.

[icy veldt]

Or just wanting to join the side that's winning

[icy veldt]

Swaying with the wind, pretty much

[wanton pendant]

You see, if he was a slave, he wouldn't have been allowed to leave in the first place. So it's, like, marginally better.

And Calamitas, well the goal was to make her not WANT to leave.

That didn't work.

[icy veldt]

Holy fucking shit. I use the word "slave" to refer to the subjects of Yharim's tyrannical empire, and you start doing this

[wanton pendant]

Turns out there's only so much senseless violence one can take before it gets old.

[slender snow]

yharim is actually a respectable bipartisan

[wanton pendant]

True!

[slender snow]

if you worship gods you get to meet them

[wanton pendant]

True!

[icy veldt]

Some people can only take so much peace and lack-of-senseless-violence, seeing how many decided to join Yharim's campaign of "justice"

[wanton pendant]

Those get put in the Civilian Mincer 9001.

(Skeletron Prime.)

You'd think he'd stop and question what he was doing after that one.

[pliant ruin]

oh honestly yeah absolutely

[random mulch]

a giant metal skull with a cannon, a chainsaw, a vice and a laser gun

[slender snow]

not my idea it was draedons

[random mulch]

truly a tool of justice

[slender snow]

blame him

[wanton pendant]

Obviously that's how heart of the elements works.

They see you're strong.

[icy veldt]

Of course not. Anything done in the cause of "freedom" and "justice" is automatically good, because it's for a good cause

[wanton pendant]

And side with you.

[wanton pendant]

So true.

More civilians for the civilian shredder.

[icy veldt]

A perfect use for those empty rhetorical catchwords

[tropic oak]

if it wasn’t forwarded here already

[wanton pendant]

Someone hasn't been hopemaxxing.

The peeled Silva is back.

Why is she peeled.

[icy veldt]

Yharim was certainly hopemaxxing

[wanton pendant]

No, no, Yharim's a despairer, real hopemaxxers don't act like him.

[slender snow]

i will not speak

[icy veldt]

He despaired later on, because he could no longer deny that his ideals clashed with reality (bad phrasing)

[random mulch]

(it's done so that it can be used as a reference when someone is drawing her since the hair & clothes may obscure things)

[wanton pendant]

(I know.)

[random mulch]

(then why did you ask)

[split mortar]

Except he still does think he is in the right…

[wanton pendant]

(Because it's funny.)

If anyone's hopemaxxing it's Calamitas.

[random mulch]

yharim's still as delusional as ever

[split mortar]

If he was given a chance he would do the crusade again but better

[icy veldt]

"Better" (worse)

[wanton pendant]

And with less child abuse, probably.

[random mulch]

a thousand more civilian shredders for the crusade part 2

[icy veldt]

*more effective

[wanton pendant]

Not a real child abuser, lower on the tier list.

He falters in Child Abuse Scaling.

[icy veldt]

So Yharim never despaired, and he's still hopemaxxing

[wanton pendant]

No, no, he's delusionposting.

Quite different.

[icy veldt]

Is it?

[wanton pendant]

Yes, quite.

He only thinks of what he would do better, not what he can do now.

[icy veldt]

If you break the world enough, the line between hope and delusion starts to blur

[wanton pendant]

A real hopemaxxer thinks on what to do in the here and now.

Yharim has abandoned the now and lives in the past, believing that the old glory could return.

He wants a successor, or to die a martyr for his cause.

Which isn't very hopemaxxing.

[icy veldt]

Being Yharim's successor and building a better world would basically be rewarding him for his evil

[wanton pendant]

Yeah, that's why the answer is to not start a genocidal crusade like a psychopath.

[icy veldt]

Yharim wanted to improve the world, by avenging the dragons and killing the gods, and he failed. He views the Terrarian as an opportunity to succeed in that matter

[wanton pendant]

Or as an overly elaborate suicide attempt.

Maybe both, maybe he just wants to beat someone up on an even playing field for once.

Before he dies.

[spring helm]

@ionic harness

[split mortar]

Wait true

[spring helm]

This is really dumb, but my first impression was that she reminded me of Noko-tan

Probably the horns

[random mulch]

we need that lil plant thing as a mount tbh

[spring helm]

Final update

[split mortar]

Wait thats hair not clothing and a cloak

[spring helm]

Silva mount

Not that different from the brimstone mount

Just plant instead

Oh hey she’s got legs now

[pliant ruin]

Honestly

the flower being a mount would be cute as hell

plus calamity dosent have many post ml mounts so...

Most mounts in general r donor content sooo...

[random mulch]

calamity has 4 non-dedicated mounts

[visual kiln]

cute brimstone flower mount 🥺

[pliant ruin]

nooo

the silva flower

we already have brimrose.......

[random mulch]

calamity has more dedicated mounts than nod-dedicated mounts

[pliant ruin]

it has a face and everything

[mighty zenith]

IT LOOKS LIKE A GRUB

https://tenor.com/view/grub-hollow-knight-happy-happy-jump-bounce-gif-2163929138081729073

[visual kiln]

Oh ok

[split mortar]

WAIT TRUE

[visual kiln]

YAYYYY silva flower :>

[pliant ruin]

It'd be cool

Maybe it could work like the mourning wood mount and just be crazy fast

[balmy glacier]

HOW DIDNT I SPOT ITS FACE WTF?!?

[split mortar]

Dog seeing the terrarian leave at mach 3 on a fucking flower

[pliant ruin]

🔥

also hey w

we have 3 god sigils now

[split mortar]

Slime sigil when

[pliant ruin]

i imagine providence will be getting hers once mango designs her pre-ascencion form

[split mortar]

I wouldnt say primordial light is xeroc specific it existed pre ascension

[visual kiln]

we do?

what r they

[pliant ruin]

i mean im pretty sure primordial light just works as xerocs sigil atp

[split mortar]

Ravager
Silva
Xeroc
I think

[pliant ruin]

yeah

[visual kiln]

what does rav’s and silvas look like

[pliant ruin]

silva, agnus/ravager, xeroc

[split mortar]

Yeah i see the reasoning

[pliant ruin]

. silvas is here

[split mortar]

@visual kiln

I dont have ravagers

[random mulch]

ravelgar

[visual kiln]

is it the bottom middle image

[pliant ruin]

yes

[visual kiln]

oh ok

[random mulch]

also the side view shows it's more of a full circle but it's at an angle

[pliant ruin]

honestly for how cute silva is im not sure how i feel about how hard she leans into the plant aesthethics

but to be fair

i guess that is to be expected with planty mush but

i always thought of it as more of just, yeah silvas life essence accelerating the grwoth of animals and plants/algae in the abyss alike

[visual kiln]

why so

[pliant ruin]

just making her very plant-coded in aesthethics feels a bit generic and redudant to me? like Life = Plants is a very overdone trope and imo misses the mark that life is... well, literally just life, not just Plants

That is to say i dont dislike the design i think its very cute and im not sure how to make it better

Perhaps just

Adding more animalistic traits to her aswell

And maybe some fungi

[visual kiln]

make her a furry

[pliant ruin]

But also tbf

She has

horns

and hooves

[visual kiln]

[pliant ruin]

so the design does try doing that

I just wish it had a little more

[cloud ibex]

that's what i was thinking

[pliant ruin]

Represented more different types of life, yknow?

[cloud ibex]

i would have loved if she had like

[visual kiln]

Yeah valid

Imagine if she had a fish tail

[cloud ibex]

some fungal elements or maybe even something fish-esque if you wanna get really wild and wacky

[random mulch]

turn silva into a microbial mat

[pliant ruin]

Some shelf mushrooms on her, maybe bug antennae, maybe some gills or something, just, yeah

A bit more than just Plant

She does try getting that accross in her design with the horns and hooves but again it just feels like very little to me ?

Too much plant not enough Diversity imo.... Cool design but i think it could use some tweaks perhaps

Unsure if it would realistically get tweaks though, and if ti dsoent thats fine by me

[visual kiln]

meow

[icy veldt]

"Meow" - Providence

[visual kiln]

give silva a shark tail like gawr gura

[tropic oak]

hi

[visual kiln]

hello pyrant

[split mortar]

Turn provi into a catgirl

[icy veldt]

^^^^

THAT'S WHAT I'M SAYING

THAT'S WHAT I'M HERE FOR!!!

[visual kiln]

correct

[pliant ruin]

The horns do kind of give of a sort of insectoid appearance with their small little nubs and segmentaton? Feel like a mix of a ox's horns with a sort of bugg-y mandible appearance i suppose

kinda like how pinsir from pokemon turns a stag beetle's mandibles into horns

[tropic oak]

i want to make a theme out of this

[visual kiln]

:o

[slender snow]

is the gloop edible

[icy veldt]

Bruh if a Provy catgirl meowed at me, I'd be worshipping her and serving her until the end of time, no questions asked

[tropic oak]

i would not bite that

[split mortar]

Its silva so yes

[visual kiln]

odd message

[tropic oak]

one day since her post-asc inception people already being weird 🥀

[split mortar]

Yeah

[visual kiln]

what is that about me

[visual kiln]

whats her pre-ascension art look like

link?

[icy veldt]

Get a syringe and extract a little bit of pod-juice every day, and sell it as "Silva bathwater"

[tropic oak]

its in pins in imgur i think

[slender snow]

idk

[visual kiln]

Imgur??

[split mortar]

I could get it but 5 min scrolling on mobile

[tropic oak]

i got it

sending

[pliant ruin]

@visual kiln

[split mortar]

Fuck

[tropic oak]

🐌

[slender snow]

its peam

[icy veldt]

peam:

peein'

[visual kiln]

wh

[tropic oak]

strange user..

hi aza

[icy veldt]

I AM SILLY!!!

[split mortar]

No

Strange weird

[tropic oak]

You are not silly You are making very Strange and Uncomfortable Comments

[icy veldt]

Alright, lore question. How's the economy doing in the present day of Calamity?

[visual kiln]

exploded

[split mortar]

Probably very fucked
Some people with 2100 tech and some with 1700 tech does that

And also crusade

[icy veldt]

Is there any trade between the remaining settlements that haven't been destroyed? Large-scale manufacturing in Azafure was destroyed, so that's no longer usable

[split mortar]

We know theres a crystal city which probably trades a lot but idk anything beyond that

[icy veldt]

Is it related with the Hallow at all?

[split mortar]

Hallowed only exists once we free the essence from wof so no

[icy veldt]

Well how about a past/historical relation with the gods whose essences became the Hallow?

[split mortar]

We dunno

[cloud ibex]

shut up

stop being weird in public bro!!!!! you're harshing the vibes!!!!!!!!!

[icy veldt]

ok

[mighty zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/simpleflips-simpleflips-spray-windex-clean-simpleflips-discord-gif-26585974

[icy veldt]

[errant lintel]

what could this possibly mean

rejected by who? For what?

[pliant ruin]

Auric rejected

[split mortar]

The auric energy itself

[pliant ruin]

you know how if you mine auric ore without the proper equipment it sends you exploding and stuff

yeah

[wheat walrus]

keep being weird in public bro keep harshing the vibes trust me this will gain you a thousand years of wealthy living

[wheat walrus]

me, you a meanie 😠

[errant lintel]

why dont any of these symptoms actually occur when you eat a 2nd :insertOneUseConsumable:

[wheat walrus]

cause those symptoms are a conspiracy

[icy veldt]

Because the Terrarian isn't stupid enough to try it

[errant lintel]

How would they be a conspiracy if the game itself says it

[errant lintel]

I am and I did

[wheat walrus]

unreliable narrator

trust

[wheat walrus]

what happens is what happens, for there is no greater truth than what you witness

[magic epoch]

someone asked this and tbh im kinda curious too

[wheat walrus]

uh

i assume it depends

on what? no clue!

[errant lintel]

power scaling is so inaccurate

[icy veldt]

Yeah, seems like it would depend on how well the ascension is conducted

[magic epoch]

i just said it depends on the strength of the dragon, the ascender, and especially the success of the ascension

[icy veldt]

IIRC Xeroc and someone else (don't remember) had a perfect ascension, while (I think) Provy had an imperfect one

[magic epoch]

but idk anything beyond that

[magic epoch]

silva

she also had like a near perfect ascension methinkies

[icy veldt]

^

That's whom I was thinking of

[wheat walrus]

Xeroc and Silva are the only ones with the same domain as the dragon soul they inherited

[errant lintel]

Why are Auric souls the only way to godhood

[wheat walrus]

Dunno ask Xeroc

[magic epoch]

because that's just tbe definition of god in the calamity universe

[wheat walrus]

What Amy said

[magic epoch]

someone who ascended via the consumption of an auric soul

[errant lintel]

well who made those auric souls
they are irreplaceable and aren't passed down

[split mortar]

World soul shattered into pieces and those made auric souls somehow

[errant lintel]

and the top-tier beings turn into what they are by eating said souls

Define world soul

[pliant ruin]

Because yo ucannot eat more than one for gameplay reasons

[split mortar]

The world had a soul

[pliant ruin]

The in lore explanation for why you dont is because your character would fucking die if they did as you can see from the tooltip

[pliant ruin]

Because the definition of God in calamity is that

[split mortar]

And it no longer does

[errant lintel]

and how did the world come to be? Big bang?

[split mortar]

Calamity does not explain that
It could we dunno

[pliant ruin]

well for one thats not even how the world came to be in real life but regardless we dont know and itll probably never be relevant

[errant lintel]

That's a really hopeless assumption

regardless, how did the auric souls find bodies to manifest themselves in

[pliant ruin]

what do you mean hopeless

[errant lintel]

and why did they have to be dragons in particular

[split mortar]

Dragons probably found the shards and handed them out iirc

[errant lintel]

correction, pessimistic

[pliant ruin]

theres no Hope here its literally jsut not relevant to the narrative

It's not Pessimistic dude what are you on about

its like me saying Bowser from Mario will never be relevant to the calamity story

[split mortar]

Calamity does not touch on cosmic stuff like the origin of the universe and planet

[pliant ruin]

It's not pessimistic its literally just Not What The Story Is About

[errant lintel]

I wasn't referring to calamity

[pliant ruin]

I was

[icy veldt]

I personally think the dragons are to blame for the world soul being fragmented in the first place

[pliant ruin]

well for one thats not even how the world came to be in real life
because the big bang is now how the planet was created
but regardless we dont know and itll probably never be relevant
because how the world was created will likely never be relevant or explained in the calamity narrative

[errant lintel]

I find this amusing considering DoG who is literally a cosmic phenomenon

[split mortar]

Dog is not on the scale of the origin of the universe

[pliant ruin]

DoG is from some fucked up alternate dimension

[errant lintel]

ok I got it

[dusk laurel]

lore spray 😨

[warm gull]

reign of yharim

[visual kiln]

wdym

what

@warm gull return???

hello

[warm gull]

I've been here the whole time..

since fabdeath

[visual kiln]

Oh ok

meow

[warm gull]

meow

[visual kiln]

p

[dusk laurel]

dog is less of a phenomenon than the fucking moonlord

we know where his house is

[random mulch]

space in calamity is still very ???? and i hope it doesn't change

[visual kiln]

Same

[tropic oak]

hi jane calamitas

[tropic oak]

True…

[pliant ruin]

hi john vcmm

[icy veldt]

Draedon's looking into instantaneous wireless teleportation because he wants to harvest stuff from other planets. I wonder if he's also interested in terraforming (Terrariaforming, lol) and building settlements on other planets, in the very long term, a bit like Mr. House

[tropic oak]

yharim listens to all time low in his spare time i was told this in a dream

[icy veldt]

Speaking of dream lore, Yharim was Swedish and died in the same way as Charles XII of Sweden

[visual kiln]

hii pyrant

[tropic oak]

hi aza

[light linden]

didn't sweden get conquered by the british?

[icy veldt]

No??????????

[light linden]

or am I thinking of Scotland?

[tropic oak]

do u guys think yharim likes my chemical romance

[icy veldt]

Scotland was in a personal union with England, which is the origin of the Kingdom of Great Britain

[visual kiln]

Probably

[icy veldt]

Ah yep this is the dream that I was referring to

[nimble mantle]

Does Yharim need a shanking license?

[icy veldt]

Yharim probably required everyone in his empire to have a license for just about everything

[random mulch]

how would one get a license-obtaining license

[icy veldt]

By being Yharim

[errant lintel]

Is the pun in the Devourer of Cods tooltip facts for saying that DoG was originally just an "Eater of Shoals" aka eater of souls

[random mulch]

it's just a pun, not lore

[light linden]

I mean

[errant lintel]

The DoG head does share similarities with the enemy though

[light linden]

idt that's ever been asked

we don't know anything about DoG's life cycle

[split mortar]

Dog is from an entirely different dimension to an eater if souls

[tropic oak]

because dog is a LOSER !!!!!!

[errant lintel]

I know but what if that other dimension just so happens to have an enemy similar or identical to the eater of souls

[light linden]

maybe?

we don't know much about it

[errant lintel]

which also just so happens to be a newborn DoG

[split mortar]

Id hope not that would be bad enemy design

[light linden]

well

we know almost nothing about specific creatures there

[errant lintel]

exactly

[light linden]

we know that cosmilite is a liquid there

[split mortar]

That doesnt change how well designed the enemies can be

[dusk laurel]

id love to see a dichotomy between how animals in terraria and the distortion live

[wanton pendant]

Why on earth were we discussing the history of Great Britain. Again.

[split mortar]

Im british

[wanton pendant]

Oh, I'm sorry to hear that.

[late forge]

holy shit yharon snack break is canon

this is groundbreaking

[limpid saddle]

hi lore chat

how are we

[wanton pendant]

Help, the British were here.

Oh, also, what I said about someone claiming the Devourer of Gods doesn't actually eat gods actually happened.

[split mortar]

Are

[split mortar]

More british people will appear

[wanton pendant]

Please, this is no place for threats.

[limpid saddle]

lmao

[wanton pendant]

I said it would, and then it did.

How on earth is reading comprehension this poor.

[limpid saddle]

the slow destruction of the education system in numerous countries

also some people just dont care & like to sound smart with wrong information

but mostly the first thing

[split mortar]

I wanna read that

[wanton pendant]

Here's what I said.

Give me a minute to find the person saying he doesn't eat gods.

[split mortar]

I meant the and then it did happen part

O ok

Actually no im rushing you now

Do it quicker

Quicker

Wuickerp

Quicker

[wanton pendant]

Every time you message I get distracted and scroll down.

[split mortar]

Peak

[wanton pendant]

Here.

I hope I didn't ping them I set it to off.

[split mortar]

Shouldnt have

😭

It the did happen

[wanton pendant]

What will happen tomorrow.

If I make a prediction, will it come through?

[split mortar]

Calamitas isnt a human she is azafurian debate

[wanton pendant]

No that happens like every two days.

We need another 'the name is actually misleading' debate.

Where there's like one guy with a misleading name (Astrum Deus) thus any name must be inaccurate.

So DoG doesn't devour gods, Cryogenic ore isn't ice related, etc.

Why does this keep happening.

[split mortar]

Idk

[split mortar]

Exo mechs dont use exotic resonance

[wanton pendant]

Nah, anyone who can't read won't know what that is.

Yharim, the Godseeker, never sought any gods.

(I mean, we kinda did that today...)

[split mortar]

The potential man thing

[wanton pendant]

Yeah, but there's a real chance someone will say that for real at some point.

'If he's in the dragon place, then how could he seek gods?'

[frosty charm]

The idea I had for Noxus in the story is that they want to consume the light of the world and bring the distortion to reality (mostly a bonus since a hole is already torn between the two) but idk if that really fits Noxus

They hide in the distortion due to being in a state too weak to really impact much (could still relatively easily beat the MCs but would get wiped by Xeroc) and escape to eat the light of the sun afterwards

[wanton pendant]

Where's the child abuse sub-plot?

[split mortar]

Everyone gets wiped by xeroc tbf

[frosty charm]

i'll make sure to force calamitas to fetch me a beer

[split mortar]

Bergentruck

[frosty charm]

the idea i have is that by consuming the light of the sun and the aerie they become powerful enough to 1v1 xeroc without getting wiped immediately

[wanton pendant]

I wouldn't let Calamitas near alcohol, she doesn't need another bad coping mechanism.

[frosty charm]

well it's not for her it's for me

[split mortar]

Obligatory embers mention since i havent done that in a while

This being embers

[frosty charm]

the climax of the story is that they appear in the aerie and consume almost the entirety of its' light (and the region itself) thus becoming like second strongest, either mc and yharim have to team up or it's right after the yharim fight

[wanton pendant]

What?

[split mortar]

?

[split mortar]

O ok

[wanton pendant]

After the Yharim fight he's dead.

[limpid saddle]

The aerie doesnt really have a centralized energy though

[frosty charm]

yeah that's what i'm saying

[split mortar]

They doing their own fanfic thing they dont need to follow 1to1

[limpid saddle]

& its basically indestructible (unless that was changed in lore?)

but last i knew it took Xeroc nearly all of his might to carve out a rock from it

[split mortar]

The place is probably still very magical

[limpid saddle]

The Rock™

[split mortar]

Right after ascending he is stronger now

[frosty charm]

either they appear right after the mc kills them and the mc has to fight them in their weakened state or they appear before the fight actually happens and they put aside all their differences and fight noxus (and then the mc kills yharim anyways since they'd hate them)

[limpid saddle]

So yeah its very up in the air if Noxus could pull that off

[frosty charm]

i mean afaik noxus has like a paragraph of lore so i'm almost entirely making shit up

[limpid saddle]

& if he could it'd probably br a very small amount

We do know hes definetively weaker than Xeroc though

[split mortar]

Fair enough

[limpid saddle]

Is Prime Moon Lord stronger than him? I forgot the ranking

[frosty charm]

i am set on the aerie collapsing onto the world because i think it'd be a really cool ending

[split mortar]

Yup

[limpid saddle]

Well it could do an Angel Island Sonic 3 & the entire thing just crashes down no damage

[split mortar]

Xeroc

Prime moonlord

Noxus

Yharim

[limpid saddle]

A pristine garden sourrounded by ruin & all that

[frosty charm]

i'm thinking more silent construct rain world

[limpid saddle]

what even is a rain world

[frosty charm]

stare

[split mortar]

A game

[frosty charm]

best game oat

[limpid saddle]

i thought the best game was plok

[split mortar]

The best game i have played so far is either deltarune or oneshot

[frosty charm]

i have yet to experience a game that tops the emotional impact of rw so

best game oat

didn't care for the watcher though

[limpid saddle]

if emotional experience was enough LISA: The Joyful would be the best game of all time for the 'He's My Dad' sequence

[split mortar]

If just emotional then oneshot

For me

[limpid saddle]

gameplay wise i really like the Batman Arkham games

been pining to replay them

Oh have you guys played Bug Fables?

Thats a really good one both plot & game wise

[split mortar]

Not heard of it

[frosty charm]

the game itself is also fun and challenging but uhh back to the story idea

[tropic oak]

hi

[limpid saddle]

its like paper mario but really small & with more direct horror elements

[limpid saddle]

hi john vcmm

[frosty charm]

the reason i want the aerie to collapse onto the main world is because i want it to like, highlight that it's the end of an era. the end of the godseeker and the end of the dragons (the aerie is too far gone for yharon to resurrect so they're all dead)

[tropic oak]

hi

[limpid saddle]

i like our talks

[split mortar]

Ok yeah fire

[frosty charm]

i know that by the time the game starts the age of the dragons is already "over" (yharon is the only one left) and the godseeker is basically in retirement (i think) but like

once it collapses that's that

[limpid saddle]

i think the aerie exists as a very poinent embodiment of what has left the world

[split mortar]

Its a definitive end instead of yharim and yharon desperately wanting it back

[icy veldt]

Instead of crashing it into the main world, how about we blow up the entire thing?

[limpid saddle]

at first it represented the dragons in all their grand might, then it represented their absence, remaining eternally still, i'd say now it represents the death of the Gods

[frosty charm]

yah, i don't want the mc to continue on yharim's quest for that reason

[frosty charm]

the idea i have is that it's kind of an empty olympus, now only really occupied by yharim. it's more or less in a reality above the base one

[limpid saddle]

The last traces of the World Soul gone from the planet, its only mourner exiled from that world it was once a part of

[icy veldt]

It might make her happier, though

[limpid saddle]

????

not how alcholism works

[icy veldt]

Never tried it, so I wouldn't know

[frosty charm]

however, since the hole in the distortion exists it kinda warps the two together

(since noxus is still a distortion entity)

i want the main area of the aerie to be an abandoned cathedral, overgrown by foreign life and only really inhabited by yharim

[real glen]

Help us, Ceaseless Void!

[limpid saddle]

i always thought of the aerie as just pure nature & only rock formations resembling structures

[frosty charm]

i dont see why there wouldn't be, i think the lore straight up mentions xeroc "kills" zeratos at a temple

[robust osprey]

hello lore chat

[split mortar]

Hello

[limpid saddle]

Like a wide field with rocks ladened as steps along 'stairs', & a large rock symbolizing a gravestone sourrounded by flowers that will never bloom as Yharim kneels in silence in memory of a master he never knew

[real glen]

there's zeratros' light grave in Aerie am I right Melon gun

[tropic oak]

ive thought of the aerie as an autumn-set forest and dark grey rocks

[limpid saddle]

Idk it's simplistic but it goes hard to me

[split mortar]

That exists but i dont think theres confirmation on its looks or anythinf

[frosty charm]

yeah i think only barebones concept art exists

[robust osprey]

I would imagine the aerie as big mountain with barely any tree

[cloud ibex]

i tend to picture it looking kinda like the altus plateau from elden ring

[frosty charm]

at least outside of patreon/dev cord

[icy veldt]

I'd imagine the Aerie would look like a giant bombed-out crater after I'm done with it

[limpid saddle]

Honestly my idea is kind of a half-in-half of Hyrule from Wind Waker (when its frozen in time) & the large sweeping fields of BOTW

[icy veldt]

I ❤️ EXPLOSIONS

[wanton pendant]

Bombing a graveyard, that's low.

[limpid saddle]

cant mine the aerie

i think

[wanton pendant]

Best Zelda game mentioned.

[icy veldt]

It's a graveyard for the dragons. Deserved

[split mortar]

Aerie timelessness does the cause that

[wanton pendant]

Racist.

[limpid saddle]

They're gonna make it so you cant mine the aerie right

[cloud ibex]

presumably

[frosty charm]

idk something like the citadel half of outer expanse is what i imagine it to look like (rw spoilers) and i imagine this is what the grave of light looks like

[limpid saddle]

thanks Water Wraith

[split mortar]

Would make sense

[icy veldt]

Darn 😔

[limpid saddle]

are you gonna stop running over my pikmin

[wanton pendant]

No. <3

[limpid saddle]

[frosty charm]

a now nearly abandoned place, overtaken by life and only inhabited by yharim

[split mortar]

Chat does the aerie have light on it from the sun or nah to yall

[frosty charm]

its own sun

[limpid saddle]

what is it with you & rain world?

[frosty charm]

i like it

[icy veldt]

Also I thought we were supposed to forget the past and look only to the future

[limpid saddle]

dim hollow sun that casts a faint light

[wanton pendant]

Something something budhism.

Bombing a graveyard is very much being consumed by the past.

[cloud ibex]

would be really fucked up if the sunlight itself was frozen in time along with the rest of the island

[limpid saddle]

thats how you repeat the past fool

[split mortar]

Take me outside the context of terraria and im bringing up terraria

[limpid saddle]

history is important

[frosty charm]

that's actually a good idea

make it high noon so it's always uncomfortably hot

[wanton pendant]

Everything's in black and white.

[cloud ibex]

so you don't even cast shadows there if you weren't at the aerie when it was sealed away or whatever

[limpid saddle]

i imagine it having faded colours but not no colour

[cloud ibex]

farum azula

[tropic oak]

hi

[limpid saddle]

hi john vcmm

[split mortar]

I kinda imagine it like
Just dark
Not even the suns light reaches the place stuck in the past

[cloud ibex]

i mean the aerie is quite literally farum azula

[robust osprey]

make it so the aerie is as hot as the surface during the draconic era

[tropic oak]

dragon’s aerie from dark souls

:

[real glen]

Super Paper Mario Castle Bleck

[frosty charm]

my stupid chuddy chud cat is here

[cloud ibex]

dragon land from an era when they ruled the lands, floating island, frozen in time etc.

[wanton pendant]

I always envisioned it as looking like it's dusk.

[limpid saddle]

the better faram azula

[wanton pendant]

Or perhaps dawn.

[split mortar]

Embers

[wanton pendant]

Maybe both.

[cloud ibex]

i haven't darked my souls 2 so i can't comment on that

[split mortar]

Chat can noxus take on the eternal flame

[limpid saddle]

dragon aerie in ds2 is awesome

[limpid saddle]

how eternal is it

[split mortar]

Enough to end a planet into fucking nothing

[limpid saddle]

idk he might pull it off

[split mortar]

Im on about the one in embers

[limpid saddle]

yeah i figured

[limpid saddle]

cough

[split mortar]

Fair

[river cedar]

rain worl mentioned

[frosty charm]

What a stupid chud

[limpid saddle]

you guys want to look atmy stupid ass cat

[robust osprey]

fuck rain world we bringing up deltarune now

[wanton pendant]

We don't make enough Pikmin references to meet quota, we're unbalanced.

[tropic oak]

fuck deltarune i need more risk of rain in calamity

[frosty charm]

Something something wplace Deltarune Fans something something

Quota reached moving on

[limpid saddle]

Put the Roaring Knight in Deltarune

[frosty charm]

Hey bud

[wanton pendant]

We didn't even make a Pikmin reference!?

[robust osprey]

noxus is the knight

[river cedar]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/1405353123622551582/1405354443955900647/8470595.gif

pretend that embedded

[frosty charm]

I have some news for you

[wanton pendant]

Is that Mr. Beast?

[split mortar]

Noxus is the roaring

[split mortar]

Mr breast scam?

[dusk laurel]

i imagine it to be like an evening sun

[limpid saddle]

you know thats a psyop by a bunch of 4chan transphobes right

[wanton pendant]

That's what I was saying.

[river cedar]

it’s this thing

[wanton pendant]

Anyway, we need to blow up Scotland. It has to be done. For the greater good.

He ok?

[split mortar]

Sinking ireland

[wanton pendant]

NO!

[limpid saddle]

im gonna melt you in a vat of boiling oil

[wanton pendant]

Of course the British wants to take out Ireland.

Can't leave the little guys alone, huh?

[limpid saddle]

They just keep doing it to us

[cloud ibex]

we had a proper lore convo going and then it exploded instantly because someone mentioned rain world

[wanton pendant]

You already have most of Ulster.

[cloud ibex]

💔

[split mortar]

💔

[river cedar]

oops!

[robust osprey]

average #lore-discussion moment

[river cedar]

sorry i have no self restraint 😌

[frosty charm]

I mean I've just been talking about the story ideas (I'm still in writing hell 💔)

[wanton pendant]

No, this is the British's fault.

[split mortar]

Fuck you

[wanton pendant]

My writing hell is figuring out what Twinklers taste like and how to cook them.

[limpid saddle]

remember when rain world fans were the 'most obnoxious fans on the internet' for like 3 months

[wanton pendant]

Tears of the English added to potential flavours.

I don't.

[split mortar]

No

[limpid saddle]

Really?

[wanton pendant]

Nope.

[limpid saddle]

I saw it like everywhere for a while

Kinda set me off

[cloud ibex]

i remember when the lore was discussed

[limpid saddle]

Couldnt turn an e-corner without seeing a slugcat

[wanton pendant]

They all reached nirvana or something I don't know I didn't play it more then once.

[cloud ibex]

that was fun

[limpid saddle]

we dont really have alot to discuss though

[eager bluff]

fun but doomed to obscurity

[wanton pendant]

Then the English attacked...

[limpid saddle]

i've made my thesis on the characters i care about

posted it like 3 times

i've done my time

[wanton pendant]

And we still haven't hit the Pikmin reference quota.

[limpid saddle]

bulbmin.

[cloud ibex]

i'm gonna throw rocks at you

[split mortar]

Eternal flame providence or noxus

[limpid saddle]

noxus

[wanton pendant]

You can't just say Bulbmin and call it a reference.

[river cedar]

so like. what’s the best lore fun fact ever

[wanton pendant]

Yharim groomed a 13 year old?

[limpid saddle]

permafrost hates ice cream & loves really weird pizzas

[split mortar]

Pffffft

[eager bluff]

yharim has auric bones and teeth

[robust osprey]

yharim was almsot killed by WOKE

[split mortar]

Thatsnot fun

[river cedar]

i don’t think that’s very fun

[wanton pendant]

Yharhe/him.

[tropic oak]

i hope noxus is just a straight up like genuine nightmare in design

[split mortar]

Moonlord in its prime could control primordial light

[wanton pendant]

Like a nightmare in dreamland?

[tropic oak]

no

idk what that is

[limpid saddle]

I hope they arent super over the top

[icy veldt]

Yharim was the OG hopemaxxer, fighting for "freedom", "justice", and yes, "hope"

[wanton pendant]

No he ain't.

[tropic oak]

i sure do. one of the big bads of the distortion should look nuts

[robust osprey]

bro thinks he is gerson boom

[cosmic zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/rivulet-rain-world-gif-3003221729780992750

[wanton pendant]

Noxus should just be that old Cthulhu mockup hue shifted to be purple.

Great, rain world is lore now.

[icy veldt]

Who?

[cosmic zenith]

What were you guys talking about?

[split mortar]

SHURT UP

[wanton pendant]

Pikmin.

[limpid saddle]

design of noxus

[tropic oak]

what are u talkin about

[split mortar]

Fav random lore funfact

[eager bluff]

hes old

[icy veldt]

Yharim was a beacon of hope for every spiteful lunatic who was tired of peace and lack of senseless violence

[robust osprey]

stip "rainworld" has arrived

[wanton pendant]

You can't just say hope and expect it to make your point make sense.

[frosty charm]

uhhh on the (now already passed) topic of the story could i ask for feedback on the characters (like just general archetypes im not posting their full references)

[split mortar]

Noxus should be invoked stargod sized

[limpid saddle]

I think the design should be relly mysterious & create a lot of questions like Noxus themselves

[wanton pendant]

You don't need to do the war hammer roleplay all the time.

[tropic oak]

NO

[cloud ibex]

the aerie in general

[wanton pendant]

What the hell.

Why not.

[icy veldt]

It's "Warhammer". One word, not two

[split mortar]

???

[limpid saddle]

war hammer

[wanton pendant]

Ok, fine, Warhammer Forty Thousand.

[real glen]

from what Dragon Aerie will look like
To random fun facts

[eager bluff]

what hammer

[cloud ibex]

iunno why it replied to that

[icy veldt]

I will vaporize you

[limpid saddle]

teehee

[robust osprey]

war ham mer

[tropic oak]

war hammer

[cloud ibex]

i meant stip's question right above

[split mortar]

W ar. Ham mer r

[robust osprey]

hammer of war

[wanton pendant]

Sorry for not being on the Warrior's Hammer Four Tens and a Thousand's table.

[icy veldt]

What have I done

[robust osprey]

hammer of justice

[icy veldt]

So... this is despair

[tropic oak]

holy crap! the aerie!

[wanton pendant]

See, you're a Yharimcel.

Am I using the slang right?

[cloud ibex]

not too fond of this image

[icy veldt]

W i d e

[tropic oak]

LOL

[split mortar]

I hope you have a nightmare

[wanton pendant]

Also, your warhammerman looks like a little goblin guy.

[icy veldt]

You know what? Fuck you lengthens your sky island

[eager bluff]

i like yharim auric teeth theory

[wanton pendant]

What.

[robust osprey]

YOUR LONG

[eager bluff]

<-- totally not biased

[tropic oak]

dont worry i put a mountain on it

[limpid saddle]

can someone post the 'once you've been to orc city you'll never stop wanting to beat the elf king to death with your bare hands' image

[tropic oak]

the entire thing is laced with draconic incense monoliths to make it entirely orange

trust

[icy veldt]

The what image

[wanton pendant]

Why would anyone have that image.

And I know what you mean. But why would we.

[split mortar]

I dont have it but i know that

[wanton pendant]

Once you've been to Ilmeris you'll never stop wanting to beat the Godseeker to death with your bare hands.

[limpid saddle]

i found it

[frosty charm]

ok cool

• Leader guy is a mage (fire particularly) and is relatively kind to the team, sarcastic/laid back otherwise. Also kind of awkward. Dies super early on and forces other people into leadership
• Second guy wants to be the best in the group (they think they are, they don't have an inferiority complex they just want to prove it) and is generally egotistical/self confident, eases into a leader role after the death of leader guy (second guy dies to DoG) also comes from the ruins of azafure
• Third guy is a cynical jokester character, they've been through other realities in which everyone dies so they kinda stay distant so they won't get hurt. Has a rivalry/friendship with the fourth guy, dies at the start of the Yharim fight.
• Fourth guy is my character (all of these guys are my friends characters refitted for the story) and is a slightly less egotistical, self-proclaimed enactor of justice. Their motives shift from fighting for the people to fighting out of spite (of yharim) and they end up surviving.
• Fifth guy was scrapped and we may or may not add said fifth guy

wall of text jumpscare

[wanton pendant]

I'm sure I saw the first one happen in power rangers.

[icy veldt]

And then urinate on his corpse

[frosty charm]

i don't really watch tv so i can't confirm

[icy veldt]

Out of respect

[split mortar]

What

[wanton pendant]

I don't watch power rangers either.

[limpid saddle]

it started because some dumbass made fun of Hideo Kojimas writing (but not in a joke way in a 'trying to make genuine criticism & failing' way) then people found out he wrote a really bad book

[tropic oak]

you know what i think. i think we can smoke DoG’s essence to obtain the ultimate high

[wanton pendant]

Third one is just fanfic Sans Undertale.

[icy veldt]

Good idea!

[frosty charm]

yeah no literally it's my friends character who is literally just sonic and sans combined (theyre a sonic fan)

[limpid saddle]

true

[limpid saddle]

????

[split mortar]

Chat would eating moonlord be a good idea or would i be eating radioactive antimatter essentially

[wanton pendant]

Sonic Sans is a new font I guess.

[frosty charm]

we're in the process of differentiating them they have a new design now

[icy veldt]

Not as good as Sonic Serif

[eager bluff]

in short human bones cant withstand the force generated by one of yharims punches
thus i had a theory
what if attunement replaced all or most of the calcium in yharims body with auric, allowing his skeletal structure to withstand impacts of the force he generates in a punch
because all/most calcium in his body is now auric, his teeth are auric too

[wanton pendant]

Making your character live and your friends characters all die is certainly a choice.

[frosty charm]

but uhh yeah everything is still an early draft since i've just started

[wanton pendant]

Ok.

[frosty charm]

they may or may not die by the end

[icy veldt]

Magic is stored in the bones, after all

[wanton pendant]

Did your friends do anything to upset you by any chance?

[robust osprey]

everyone dies except me, fools

[frosty charm]

but yeah i prefaced it with "you will die" it's soort of a collaborative writing project so i'm working out the kinks like i'm still in writing hell

[wanton pendant]

No, it's stored in the heart.

In the magic sack.

[eager bluff]

this is also one of my theories

[split mortar]

Ok owl house

[split mortar]

Not a theory cei confirmed it iirc

[wanton pendant]

Calamitas has heart issues because of this.

What do you mean magic is stored in the bones is canon.

[eager bluff]

it was a theory from me first

[icy veldt]

It is

[eager bluff]

i dont think i have the original mana bones image anymore though

[icy veldt]

I initially thought it was stored in the bladder

[frosty charm]

i got the inspo from an old post on the cal sub (i asked if i could write a story about it a year or so ago and they said sure) and i figured i'd work with my friends characters

[split mortar]

Ima look for the quote

[limpid saddle]

Imagine how much pain Calamitas Clone's bones are in

[frosty charm]

byeah uhh main issue is i don't know where to take the characters and how to flesh them out so like

[split mortar]

Mana in bones

[wanton pendant]

Screw her, regular Calamitas is gonna get super osteoporosis or something.

[split mortar]

Oops ping

Sorry cei

[wanton pendant]

Super Turbo Magic Bone Cancer.

[robust osprey]

super bone cancer

[manic coral]

bone

[split mortar]

bone

[robust osprey]

bone

[limpid saddle]

bone

[icy veldt]

enob

[tropic oak]

bone

[wanton pendant]

Phone Bone.

[cloud ibex]

we're not doing this sorry

[visual kiln]

bone

[eager bluff]

bone Mana

[wanton pendant]

Lore drop.

[limpid saddle]

FUCK YOU GOUPERT FUNKERDINCKLE

[split mortar]

From ages ago

[wanton pendant]

Let me have this.

[split mortar]

Wtfrick frack why

[tropic oak]

DOWN WITH GOUPERT FUNKERDINCKLE

[light linden]

hi cei

[visual kiln]

where r ur bones

[eager bluff]

ok anywyas after reading i now realize that it wasnt my original theory

[split mortar]

DOWN WITH GOUPERT FUNKERDINCKLE

[manic coral]

eated them

[eager bluff]

i think i gaslit myself

[wanton pendant]

Plagiarism. You're fired.

[light linden]

cei you have time for the question now?

[wanton pendant]

So if you eat someone's bones... do you...?

[split mortar]

Persmapsp

[frosty charm]

the ideas i had are

• second guy's main goal is that they want to 'free themselves' of the chains of their constant desire to be the best, killing themselves against dog kinda does that
• third guy i genuinely have no clue and whenever i ask he goes "i dont know bruh" sooo
• fourth guy starts as a hero because they've basically been told they need to be one, to someone who fights for their own goals because they want to
• fifth guy may or may not exist so im not gonna get into it

[visual kiln]

u ate ur own bones?

[icy veldt]

What's the in-lore/biological reason for magic power being concentrated/stored in the bones?

[wanton pendant]

Looks towards Calamitas, then towards a grill.

[visual kiln]

just ask

[manic coral]

sup

[wanton pendant]

Mana is a similar material to calcium?

[eager bluff]

it just does that

[frosty charm]

Because it's fucking funny, kyle

[limpid saddle]

mage mains grinding up Calamitas' femur & snorting it to boost their maximum mana by 400

[wanton pendant]

Like, it works with radioactive materials.

[light linden]

@manic coral

[manic coral]

nope

[light linden]

ok ty

[icy veldt]

Me omw to remove her entire skeleton and crush it up to snort it

[wanton pendant]

Calamitas Clone spare option but it's just Bioshock.

[icy veldt]

Then I go insane from all that brimstone magic

[frosty charm]

The reason Calamitas is such a strong mage is because they ate the bones of the ilmeris people and just have like a stockpile of 1 million percent mana

[wanton pendant]

This implies Elementals have bones.

Also explains skeleton wizards.

[limpid saddle]

Calamitas Clone spare option... my most beloved hypothectical...

[wanton pendant]

I wanna spare her... but +50 max mana?

[icy veldt]

So I assume magic gets controlled by the brain sending signals into the spinal cord, instructing the magic in the vertebrae, which then aligns the magic in the rest of the skeleton?

[robust osprey]

sorry not possible

explode

[wanton pendant]

I wanna eat help the tormented woman!

[limpid saddle]

ok im gonna go to sleep

[robust osprey]

calamity pacifist mod

[wanton pendant]

If only it were that easy.

[icy veldt]

CalClone spare-attempt option but it just ends with Old Yeller-ing her because she's miserable and in massive spiritual/arcane/magical/etc. agony

[limpid saddle]

& dream dreams of calamitas clone/calamitas sister dynamic...

[wanton pendant]

Eat the clone.

[icy veldt]

Put the clone in cryogenic storage so it can be used for spare organs in case Calamitas gets kidney failure or something

[wanton pendant]

Just summoned 2 Old Dukes. Is there a lore reason why I'm about to die?

[robust osprey]

od mitosis

[icy veldt]

No. There's only one Old Duke, so summoning two is non-canon

[robust osprey]

mitosis

[wanton pendant]

Old Gay Dukes in question:

[icy veldt]

Summon ten Calamitates (plural of Calamitas) and watch them all look at each other in confusion

[robust osprey]

if calamitas can have a clone why cant OD have a clone

[wanton pendant]

They all agree to beat up Draedon.

They should call it something like 'Dukedomfolly.'

[icy veldt]

Duke Nukemfolly

[wanton pendant]

Nah, he's signed on for Draedon.

[icy veldt]

"It's time to chew ass"

• Dick Kickem

[tropic oak]

im gonna kill you.

[robust osprey]

im gonna clone you.

[icy veldt]

Do gods still have cloneable DNA in their post-ascension forms?

If so, I have an idea

[visual kiln]

maybe

If so it wouldnt give u their power

[icy veldt]

Well yeah. Cloning Calamitas just made a frightened/confused Azafurian girl

[eager bluff]

some of them

others are providence and made of rocks

[icy veldt]

[wanton pendant]

Anything that doesn't have power from their genetics would just make a normal creature. So Dragons make old lore Dragonfolly for instance.

Calamitas makes... well... a normal woman.

And I guess any god that retains their DNA would just make what they looked like.

So like, not much of a point.

[split mortar]

Silva makes a blob of raw life

[icy veldt]

This technology is USELESS!

[wanton pendant]

I mean, would a Silva clone just be assimilated inherently?

Like, Elementals can exist split into multiple beings.

Or at least the Cloud and likely Sand elementals are.

[icy veldt]

"In hindsight, it should have been obvious" - Draedon, I guess

[wanton pendant]

Hey, what if the magic altered her DNA to make it magic DNA?

[icy veldt]

Draedon could invent something to do that

[visual kiln]

meow

[icy veldt]

Stop quoting Provy! She's evil!

[wanton pendant]

No, she's a butterfly, not a cat!

[icy veldt]

Cat+butterfly

Catterfly

Wait... Empress of Light relation confirmed?!?!?!?!?!

[cloud ibex]

if silva has anything even close to dna i'd wager a guess it'd be like

[wanton pendant]

Why wouldn't the embodiment of nature have the building blocks of life?

[icy veldt]

All life combined into one genome?

[cloud ibex]

some ancient primordial goop that any other living creature that isn't from the distortion could be traced back to

[wanton pendant]

She's Mew is what you're saying.

[icy veldt]

Or that

[wanton pendant]

So we can create Mewtwo in the Calamity lore.

[cloud ibex]

i have no idea what the hell mew is but i'm gonna put my faith in you being right and say yes

[wanton pendant]

The Pokémon.

[icy veldt]

Mewing is what Yharim does

[icy veldt]

But his jawline is still weak, despite his mewing, so he grows out his beard to hide it

[wanton pendant]

What constitutes a weak jawline.

[icy veldt]

...

Are you a robot or something?

[wanton pendant]

No.

Like, I don't duel with my jaw.

So I don't really think about it being strong.

[icy veldt]

A jawline with a weak/soft appearance

[wanton pendant]

Oh, so like the opposite of mine.

[cloud ibex]

This tells me nothing but go off king

[wanton pendant]

I sent a picture!

[cloud ibex]

The picture tells me equally grand amounts of nothing I don’t play pocket monsters

[wanton pendant]

Alright, nerd. Knowing the full title.

Mew contains the DNA of every Pokémon, as it is the common ancestor of most Pokémon.

Except, like, God.

And his angels.

Who are also Pokémon.

[cloud ibex]

Ok then yes she is calamity mew

Except goat thing instead of cat thing

[pliant ruin]

Honestly i think you just couldnt make a silva clone

atleast not in the traditional way

i think Silva is organic but not biological if that makes sense

She dosen't have dna she's made of weird life magic mana things

[split mortar]

Made of carbon but not dna

[wanton pendant]

I mean, my idea was that as Elementals appear to be able to exist as multiple pieces, a clone of Silva would just, I guess, be part of a Silva hivemind kinda thing.

[pliant ruin]

It'd be like trying to make a clone of polterghast like. theres no dna there. theres no biology.. its a ghost

[wanton pendant]

I was actually thinking, is it possible Leviathan is just another part of the Water Elemental or whatever Anahita is?

[split mortar]

Silva when i throw her into a volcano

[pliant ruin]

I mean it is possible yeah

[split mortar]

Maybe

We dunno

No one does

[pliant ruin]

Leviathan could legit just be a water elemental

[wanton pendant]

Like, just a bigger piece of it.

[pliant ruin]

Just as Anahita is

It could also be a fully independent creature that just really likes Anahita for some reason

yeah just

who knows lol

[wanton pendant]

What does the Ice Elemental mean for the lore?

Same with Granite Elemental.

[pliant ruin]

Ice Elementals are just little water elementals

[split mortar]

Tiny frag of anahita thats more ice based

[pliant ruin]

Granites are the same but for earth

[split mortar]

Tiny frag of sand thats granite based

[pliant ruin]

Don't ask me about chaos elementals i dont know dont ask me

[wanton pendant]

If Ice Elementals are Water Elementals, then what the hell is Cloud Elemental?

[pliant ruin]

Air

[split mortar]

Air

[wanton pendant]

But Clouds are water.

[split mortar]

The air elemental

[split mortar]

You are looking too deep into it

[pliant ruin]

If we're being technical earth is lava which you could argue is fire so

[split mortar]

Cloud in air so calamity world fine with it being air elemental

[split mortar]

Gluttony can link to slime based on peoples perceptions so eh

[wanton pendant]

What?

[pliant ruin]

Granite and Sand both fall under Earth Elementals
Ice and Anahita fall under Water
Cloud is Air
Brimstone is Fire
Silva is Life

No idea what Chaos Elemental is dont ask me i dont know stop asking

[wanton pendant]

Chaos is Light.

Or even Primordial Light Elementals.

[pliant ruin]

The only guess i'd POSSIBLY have is that they're life elementals influenced by the hallow's divine essence fuckshittery somehow but even that feels unlikely

So i'd believe they're just

Somethiung else entirely

fucked up creatures

[wanton pendant]

They have the Rod of Discord, which is supposed to at least resemble Primordial Light.

[pliant ruin]

why is rod of discord even primordial light . what does the hallow have to do with primordial light .

what does this mean .

[split mortar]

It will be revealed later prob

[pliant ruin]

xeroc died and became part of the hallow and the "xeroc" we know is actually just a psyop and impostor

this is what big primordial light wants to hide from you

[wanton pendant]

I mean, there is a few connections with Hallow and Primordial Light.

Not many, but still.

The two that come to mind are RoD and Empress.

[split mortar]

God of normal light in hallowed

[wanton pendant]

God of Blinking Lights died as part of the Hallow's creation.

(And also Hallow literally means holy, and what's holier then the most powerful god?)

[visual kiln]

Light elemental?

Only thing i can think of

[visual kiln]

Is empress an elemental?

[wanton pendant]

Not to my knowledge.

[wanton pendant]

'In broad daylight, she can channel the Primordial Light itself, making her nigh untouchable.'

Nothing about being an Elemental though.

[visual kiln]

so she could be

[split mortar]

Nothing known of that

What elemental thi

[wanton pendant]

If anything, her being an emissary for forces of nature actually implies she isn't.

[visual kiln]

maybe

[wanton pendant]

Since, the things most fitting the descriptor of 'forces of nature' would be elementals.

'Though her title is lofty, she is more an emissary for the powers beyond and forces of nature.'

[pliant ruin]

There isn't a light elemental, it's just those 5

Unless there was a secret 6th elemental but

That'd come completely out of nowhere and i don't see why they'd just ommit that

[wanton pendant]

Did the devs say there are no more elementals?

[split mortar]

We know the theming of the elementals being the components of life and life itself iirc

[visual kiln]

light would work as an elemental then

[wanton pendant]

Light is quite important for many forms of life.

Certainly more then fire.

Although I guess that represents energy.

[frosty charm]

Meet my sister, Ligh Tellemental!

[split mortar]

Fire represents heat

[wanton pendant]

My secret brother, Yhar himgodseeker.

[split mortar]

Idk i think being at absolute zero is unhealthy

[wanton pendant]

Bro didn't read the next line.

[pliant ruin]

There is no 100% guarantee as far as i'm aware

but again

[robust osprey]

elemental of yuri when

[pliant ruin]

It'd just come completely out of nowhere and i see no reason why suhc a big detail would just be entirely omitted

[wanton pendant]

Sixth Elemental goes to a different school.

You wouldn't know her.

[robust osprey]

yuri is required to live

[light linden]

that's just @pliant ruin

[pliant ruin]

It's not really a interesting plot twist its just like "oh ok i guess" so again

[wanton pendant]

The girl from that horror game?

[pliant ruin]

idk why it would be completely omitted

[visual kiln]

is it omitted bc cal is incomplete or bc its actually omitted

[pliant ruin]

:true:

[visual kiln]

me

[pliant ruin]

i mean you'd think the existence of a elemental of light would be mentioned somewhere
That's such like a big deal i hardly see it being something that could just be completely ommitted from the entire narrative currently and not have any mentions in this chat ever

Who would even be the elemental of light

[visual kiln]

idk maybe light elemental is important somehow

[wanton pendant]

Calamity if it was woke: Pronounseeker, Yharim, Yharon, Drag Queen of Rebirth, Calamitas, Permawoke, Gaydon, Devourer of Gays, Braelor and Statis, Lesbyogen.

Light Elemental is hard to see because it is too bright and it makes you blind.

[pliant ruin]

I just don't think a elemental of light or just a 6th elemental in general is something that would just be casually revealed out of nowhere like that

[wanton pendant]

So nobody knows about it.

[pliant ruin]

It's in a limbo where it's too big of a deal to just Not be mentioned at all but also not a big enough of a deal to warrant a big plot twist reveal about it or something

[visual kiln]

maybe

[robust osprey]

I dont think devourer of gays is very woke

[wanton pendant]

Who was Gorthus again?

[pliant ruin]

dead fish man 👍

[wanton pendant]

He's the homophobia representation.

[robust osprey]

devourer of ESTROGEN

[visual kiln]

what are eol and chaos elementals then

[wanton pendant]

Empress of Light is some minion.

[robust osprey]

chaos elemental is something something primordial light

same with eol

[wanton pendant]

Chaos Elementals are the REAL sixth elemental.

When are they re-adding Spectral Elementals?

[visual kiln]

Chaos elementals being an elemental of light would make sense

[pliant ruin]

eol isnt a elemental

chaos elemental is some guy idk
probably not even a true elemental if i had to guess

[eager bluff]

you mean cosmic elementals?

[wanton pendant]

We're just being racist to Chaos Elementals at this point.

[visual kiln]

lmao