#lore-discussion
real glen
wanton pendant
We are not doing this again.
Not you, you're doing great Godseeker.
I think that's outdated.
real glen
It is
visual kiln
meow
wanton pendant
We have an infestation.
split mortar
Get the water
wanton pendant
wanton pendant
Get the hose.
cloud ibex
lore discussion
wanton pendant
We gotta deal with the feline foes first.
visual kiln
stomps u
wanton pendant
wanton pendant
I think the coast is clear. What do you think the government form of Yharim's empire was. He's referred to as a king, so it was likely a Monarchy, but what do you think past that?
cloud ibex
where is he called that
wanton pendant
I'm sure he was somewhere, unless the wiki is gaslighting me.
random mulch
might be thinking of when he said that he was "destined to become godking"
wanton pendant
No, not that.
But the wiki disambigation page for Yharim claims 'Tyrant King' is one of his titles.
But they don't source it.
'Yharim, known as the Godseeker, Golden Heretic or Tyrant King, is a prominent figure in the Calamity Mod's lore and is responsible for many of the events preceding the game.'
Similarly, I'm not sure where they call him Golden Heretic (though it goes hard.)
Godseeker is used quite a bit.
Yeah I can't find where he's called that. Thanks wiki.
Unless there's some other source of information that isn't the bestiary, the lore items, Amidias or Draedon.
cloud ibex
old lore thing probably
wanton pendant
Old lore was 'Jungle Tyrant', not 'Tyrant King'.
cloud ibex
little bit of both i believe
wanton pendant
I'd find it hard to believe he was democratically elected.
No wait, Polterghast does have him say he was 'ruling' which is the closest I can find.
And also him having a court.
Which I would associate more with a monarchy.
But no mention of him being called king specifically.
cloud ibex
if he was a king he was decidedly Not democratically elected
wanton pendant
Elective monarchies have existed. Wouldn't call them democratic, but elected.
I mean, there is technically at least one still around.
It's also not unreasonable that he was a king in all but name, he just assumed the position as the scope of the crusade expanded and he had to actually administrate controlled territory.
But it was almost certainly not a theocracy, for obvious reasons.
dusk laurel
i think this is my favorite iteration of yharim's horns
random mulch
comedically wide yharim fins
mighty zenith
mithrix fins
cloud ibex
imagining someone grabbing his fins and using them to slam his head into their knee
wanton pendant
That would probably hurt a lot, 'cause of his bug zapper armour.
icy veldt
It's also not unreasonable that he was a king in all but name, he just assumed t...
I think it was just a bog-standard smash-everything-ist warlord territory. What little civilization still functioned in Yharim's land did so despite his rule, not because of it
wanton pendant
So you think his bureaucrats sucked at their job, huh.
icy veldt
I'm not sure if he had bureaucrats, at least not ones specific to him
wanton pendant
He did.
Draedon mentions being annoyed at them telling him the public didn't like him polluting.
Because the public don't see the vision. (Dumping plutonium into the sea.)
icy veldt
Seems to me like there were bureaucrats who did their jobs in his land, but they were more local in scale. Yharim destroyed, but he really did not seem like the kind of warlord who would create anything new
wanton pendant
Oh, certainly, he probably just took what was there and converted it.
Luckily, if he did have to make anything, there were always some (religious) buildings that could be torn down and the land used.
icy veldt
Oh, certainly, he probably just took what was there and converted it.
Smashed it up, more like, and left the locals to salvage the pieces
wanton pendant
Some places may have sworn fealty.
icy veldt
And they were fools to do so
wanton pendant
And he had a public to some degree, who cared about the climate, I guess.
Ignore the war crimes.
It did doom Azafure...
icy veldt
I say they deserved it, if they were so eager to serve that tyrant
wanton pendant
Hey, the Yharim Propaganda machine was probably strong. Kill the gods they said, it will be fun they said!
wanton pendant
Didn't Draedon explain this?
light linden
yes and no
I'm reading through the draetalks again to refresh my memory and
exo prisms are made from sea prisms but it isn't said if exotic resonance is unique to exo prisms
so I'm wondering if it is unique to it or not
I'd imagine if the sea prisms do create it
wanton pendant
The Sea Prisms are like, magic and stuff. Thanks gods.
light linden
it's an incredibly small amount
wanton pendant
They HATE thermodynamics.
light linden
The Sea Prisms are like, magic and stuff. Thanks gods.
ik that
also one of the devs said they aren't related to gods
wanton pendant
Then those other guys lied to me.
light linden
actually no that's a lie on my part sorry
the dev said they aren't a result of godly essence
wanton pendant
They're blessed.
light linden
since I brought up that means draedon can literally grow god essence
which was not what they wanted
found the convo
wanton pendant
Well, the others were saying it was blessed by Ubuntu or whats their name, and he's just able to make that blessed power stronger through science stuff.
split mortar
Otonilou is the cause of their eternal electricity somehow
light linden
I'm not sure on what makes them have an infinite charge but he specifically etches circuitry like patterns into the prism and then jumpstarts them with a surge of energy
also I just realized something
the way draedon's forge works is that it's connected to draedon's database of material data
that mean we could crash draedon if we brought an unknown material to the forge?
wanton pendant
Draedon's forge is just a 3D printer.
But like, super.
So you can. Imagine. Schematics. I guess.
Yeah let's go with that.
split mortar
that mean we could crash draedon if we brought an unknown material to the forge?
It works with miracle matter so prob not
light linden
well he knew about the unstable version
and we made the stable version with stuff he knows about
split mortar
The guy knew of cores of calamity and ascended spirit essence?
wanton pendant
Yeah, that's his middle name.
Draedon Coresofcalamityascendedspiritessence Smith.
icy veldt
that mean we could crash draedon if we brought an unknown material to the forge?
I doubt that. Seems more like it would analyze the material and upload it to Draedon's database
wanton pendant
The Draedopticon.
light linden
The guy knew of cores of calamity and ascended spirit essence?
ascended spirit essence is non canon iirc and cores of calamity are made from things he's likely interacted with before
he used the different essences to make plates for his lab, he likely interacted with ectoplasm during his study of souls, and ashes of calamity are from a clone he made that is wielding magic that he studied in depth
wanton pendant
Well, studied as much as he could. I don't know how eager of a subject Calamitas would have been.
light linden
he studied enough to know that the magical signatures of her and the brimstone elemental were nearly the same
wanton pendant
Also, the clone wields magic unrelated to his efforts, Calamitas somehow did that. (We don't know if it was intentional or not.)
sinful adder
The guy knew of cores of calamity and ascended spirit essence?
I am pretty sure the Terrarian comes up with the recipes and the forge is just a tool that makes it easier
wanton pendant
You know, like what I was saying, making schematics from imagination! (Does this mean it can read our mind? That's a little concerning.)
icy veldt
I think it's implied that we punch in the recipe (with a very simple graphical interface) in order to make stuff
wanton pendant
And he just has the plans with stuff you invented ready to go?
icy veldt
I'm saying it uses a graphical interface for input instead of reading your mind
wanton pendant
So we're just... Iron Manning it up?
icy veldt
...what?
wanton pendant
You know, like in that movie. Spider-Man.
fierce pagoda
what would it have been like
being in pain, inflicting pain in a crazy way
sadistic? masochistic? maybe both at the same time? or maybe flip it and make it the kindest dragon ever
cause it know true pain, and wouldn't wish it on anyone else
wanton pendant
Like, you could go the God of Sacrifices route, where it's self sacrifice.
So they're just in pain.
wanton pendant
I wonder why Yharim never mentions that guy...
eager bluff
Slaanesh from 40K
thats not exactly slaanesh
its part of slaanesh but slaanesh is literally just excess
distant smelt
How the hell did silva manage to obtain the auric soul of life from the single other dragon who’s title implies they’d be relatively impossible to actually kill?
long bloom
unknown
wanton pendant
The anti-life equation, duh.
real silo
Dragon suicide probably
alpine jetty
wait
robust osprey
How the hell did silva manage to obtain the auric soul of life from the single o...
all life comes to an end...
distant smelt
Not silva’s apparently
wanton pendant
I think she's a ram.
sinful adder
How the hell did silva manage to obtain the auric soul of life from the single o...
It was given willingly
robust osprey
was that confirmed
robust osprey
she is chopped up and at the bottom of the abyss
thats the least alive being that is technically not dead
wanton pendant
Eventually, Silva stopped thinking...
wanton pendant
Eh, this is the second time, she's probably fine.
robust osprey
she has a friend atleast
wanton pendant
Inside?
robust osprey
nuh uh
nimble mantle
What if Draedon decides to make a robotic clone of Terrarian?
alpine jetty
she has a friend atleast
who
alpine jetty
jared 
wanton pendant
What if Draedon decides to make a robotic clone of Terrarian?
robust osprey
but jared is everyone's friend
alpine jetty
What if Draedon decides to make a robotic clone of Terrarian?
i dont think he would do that
alpine jetty
yea but then why didnt he clone yharim
because yharim is just a really fucking strong guy
cal clone was made to mimic calamitas' magic
also it failed
alpine jetty
only reason it got magic is cause calamitas is a girlboss
alpine jetty
beacuse yharim has all his power from his aura
true..
wanton pendant
Yharim is probably hard to get DNA from.
robust osprey
also it failed
I wouldnt say failed beacuse her magic wasnt even biological to begin with
wanton pendant
And Draedon had no particular reason to copy Yharim biologically.
robust osprey
gifted power....
wanton pendant
He did try mechanically.
alpine jetty
Yharim is probably hard to get DNA from.
have you seen his hair
wanton pendant
That's the Exo-Mechs.
alpine jetty
are you crazy
wanton pendant
That might be plumage.
alpine jetty
And Draedon had no particular reason to copy Yharim biologically.
same with terrarian
robust osprey
I believe in real hair
alpine jetty
there is NO METAL SONIC
alpine jetty
That can be controlled.
that would be the same reasoning to make a yharim clone
robust osprey
what if the terrarian is already a robot
nimble mantle
what if the terrarian is already a robot
organic robot
wanton pendant
He kinda did make a Yharim copy, the Exo Mechs are meant to match Yharim.
alpine jetty
ok well at that point
robust osprey
sir thats not a yharim copy
alpine jetty
thats what dragonfolly used to be
robust osprey
wouldnt work
alpine jetty
except it wasnt a robot
robust osprey
a robot cannot revive...
alpine jetty
just restart smh
robust osprey
ari robot clone
nimble mantle
Providence copy?
Like
robust osprey
damn ur right
robust osprey
dont see why not..
real silo
Ira sanguinos
long bloom
Ira sanguinos
❌ ❌ ❌ ❌ ❌
robust osprey
ira sanguinos is canon
tranquil pike
Will the lore be reworked now? I haven’t seen much on it
split mortar
Will the lore be reworked now? I haven’t seen much on it
Not much of the new lore will be reworked just expanded on
There are still old lore stuff ingame which will get changed like signus title or all boss dialogue
tranquil pike
Fair fair!
untold oracle
Lea channel
mighty zenith
your greed sickens me
nimble mantle
What if we let Calamitas play Sudoku?
stoic gulch
Lea channel
What about a pea channel
nimble mantle
Actually, what if we let every boss play Sudoku?
untold oracle
What about a pea channel
Wrong
Im not pea
stoic gulch
Wrong
Im not pea
Literally says pea in your name
untold oracle
ITS LÉA
split mortar
No its Léa
stoic gulch
Yeah ok pea
stoic gulch
Lea channel pea channel
Pea, you and me are peas in a pod
Only you tho
I’m a fungi (fun guy) inside of it
nimble mantle
Peashooter?
stoic gulch
Ok Pea
split mortar
nimble mantle
friend inside me
split mortar
Inverting your bones
cloud ibex
lore discussion
scenic olive
robust osprey
they probably got used to high temperatures
and they are still humans so probably they do need water
wanton pendant
I mean, probably.
Like, what, do you think they pant?
Like dogs?
Don't answer that.
wanton pendant
Sweat is also for more then just cooling down.
Like keeping the skin moist. Apparently it also prevents infection.
Because it's antimicrobial.
And I'd say a funus infection from literal hell can't be pleasant.
And also, as humans, the need water.
What would they drink? Lava?
wanton pendant
The good stuff.
hoary cape
Some of them do appear to have some form of devil/demon heritage if you go off of Cal being what most of them look like at least, so maybe they do have fire resistance
They obviously drink lava instead of water 
Water just evaporates instantly how they gonna get water down there
wanton pendant
I think they're just humans that adapted to hell's climate.
And I don't know, insulators exist.
You can bring water buckets into hell and they don't evaporate in the inventory.
Maybe Azafure had a ventilation system.
fleet wedge
You know, if Providence's NPC would be a Catgirl, would that make Devourer's NPC a Doggirl? 
wanton pendant
Good, we can't have the catgirl providence discussion for the fiftieth thime.
long bloom
guys what would yharon taste lik
wanton pendant
Chicken.
pliant ruin
He probably would unironically
given even modern reptiles like Alligators tend to taste similar to chicken
wanton pendant
Most stuff tastes like chicken.
Like bugs.
The issue with that is that chicken sucks.
pliant ruin
can yharon ball
wanton pendant
Better question, is Yharon a reptile.
Because he's at least partially a bird.
You know, with the whole Pheonix thing.
Does this make him a dinosaur?
They're kinda birds, eventually.
zenith geode
he is a dragon
pliant ruin
Yharon is definitely a reptile of some kind
pliant ruin
Now biologically speaking there is the dilemma that Dragons have 6 limbs which is not something reptiles are exactly known for but if you just like Ignore that its fair to assume Dragons in the calverse are probably archosaurs or something
wanton pendant
Anytime nature tries to make 6 limbed frogs, they die. But Dragons are like, magic.
Dragonfolly is very bird like, and it's descended from dragons.
pliant ruin
A good few dragons we've seen have fur or feathers so yeah
light linden
Now biologically speaking there is the dilemma that Dragons have 6 limbs which i...
all dragons are not the same
iirc more have been seen to not be bird like
wanton pendant
We've seen more then Yharon?
wanton pendant
That's a wyrm, a folly, a fish...
light linden
the eidolon wyrms, dragonfollies, wyverns, basilisks, and fishrons are dragons
wanton pendant
Not true dragons.
pliant ruin
They're draconic offshoots
Which have been stated to be literally just non-auric dragons
wanton pendant
Can't be claimed to be accurate to the main dragons, but are related.
light linden
have you read the in game lore?
wanton pendant
Yes?
light linden
you sure?
pliant ruin
They are literally dragons, just not auric ones
wanton pendant
That's not how they are categorised though.
pliant ruin
Developers have literally said this
Dragon is not a term that applies exclusively to the auric ones
they're called specifically Auric dragons for a reason
long bloom
water give it up man
pliant ruin
Anyways
zenith geode
though dragon is usually used to refer to auric dragons and offshoots to refer to the others
wanton pendant
I'm not infallible, come on.
glacial rampart
cheese and i are the only readers in chat
wanton pendant
though dragon is usually used to refer to auric dragons and offshoots to refer t...
That's what I was saying!
light linden
also
pliant ruin
I think it's fair to assume Dragons are archosaurs on the basis that they have been shown to have fur/feathers in some instances, which in reptiles has only been found in Archosaurs (Dinosaurs, Birds, Pterosaurs) and also they just don't really have the same squatted limb bodyplan things like lizards have
long bloom
i think dragons are dragons
wanton pendant
True...
pliant ruin
again them having 6 limbs kind of messes that up but yk just ignore that
i think that we'll never get a canonical explanation for what they are but its fun to speculate so ill speculate
wanton pendant
Like, have we seen any designs of auric dragons other then Yharon?
light linden
no
pliant ruin
again them having 6 limbs kind of messes that up but yk just ignore that
its magic oo
vetrasyl
long bloom
Like, have we seen any designs of *auric* dragons other then Yharon?
vetrasyl
light linden
stipulate is actively designing them
wanton pendant
What does that one look like?
glacial rampart
show me
long bloom
stip's old pfp
glacial rampart
unless its patron content
pliant ruin
stip posted some teasers of him
long bloom
I thought he was still designing them?
yeah but some is still public
light linden
@cosmic zenith hey is this true?
wanton pendant
The one I found also has six limbs.
light linden
stipulate is actively designing them
hell I was talking to him about zeratros's design a week ago
nvm that was 3 weeks ago
god my sense of time is fucked
pliant ruin
happens to the best of us
wanton pendant
That was a suspiciously fast answer. Are you following me?
wanton pendant
Alright pal, whatever you say.
real glen
pliant ruin
(very ver fur-like feathers that pterosaurs and some dinosaurs had)
vetra's fur is actually just that
mhm
yup
wanton pendant
Yeah that's the design I found.
long bloom
redesign in progress but that one's still a pretty good idea of what he looks like
wanton pendant
I have cousins who care deeply about dinosaur biology, they could probably tell you.
pliant ruin
i'm a bio nerd i like the , animals
wanton pendant
They should reveal the Dragon of Playing Dead.
pliant ruin
specially when it comes to the dead animals and the water animals and the dead water animals
(marine biology and paleontology
wanton pendant
I know that's you Percy Jackson!
light linden
specially when it comes to the dead animals and the water animals and the dead w...
personally I'm more into birds and bears
distant smelt
I know that's you Percy Jackson!
*Peter Johnson
wanton pendant
personally I'm more into birds and bears
Guh huh?
light linden
?
pliant ruin
gotta get those jiggies man
cloud ibex
game theory dragons don't have fur it's just hundreds of thousands of tiny long arms
pliant ruin
fucked up dude
wanton pendant
Dragons are covered in soft teeth.
pliant ruin
even more fucked up i should kill you
wheat walrus
the fur is just scales
wanton pendant
Which resemble feathers.
wanton pendant
I think birds are cool as hell and bears are both fascinating and terrifying?
Do you also like rhyming?
pliant ruin
my favorite bears spectacled bears
wheat walrus
true
pliant ruin
only south american bear
light linden
Do you also like rhyming?
I've never really thought about it?
pliant ruin
what do you mean hes just a guy
light linden
What are your two favourite instruments?
electric guitar and whatever HPU used for the reverb part of astrageldon's theme
wanton pendant
electric guitar and whatever HPU used for the reverb part of astrageldon's theme
And not the Kazoo, or the Banjo?
pliant ruin
Hes also like the last member of the group of bears that included the huge fucking prehistoric ones
light linden
And not the Kazoo, or the Banjo?
OH YOU'RE REFERENCING THAT
pliant ruin
except he's actually not really that big
light linden
yeah no I've never played that
pliant ruin
hes kinda small for bear standards
wanton pendant
hes kinda small for bear standards
Judgemental today, are we.
pliant ruin
hey i'm also short i'm not judging
wanton pendant
I'm sure the bear is trying their best to eat their vegetables.
wanton pendant
hey i'm also short i'm not judging
Haha short.
pliant ruin
wanton pendant
Couldn't be me.
light linden
how tall are you?
wanton pendant
SIX AMERICAN FREEDOM LOVING FEET! Eagle Screeches in the distance.
light linden
I'm 6'3
wanton pendant
In what? Lame units? and not AMERICAN FREEDOM LOVING FEET! Eagle Screeches in the distance.
wheat walrus
Judgemental today, are we.
Uncontrollable, madness-stricken judgement of the utmost atrocious and unknowable kind, my beloved
wanton pendant
I don't get the reference.
light linden
Sorry, the American dream is taking over. Please help.
I'm american too
wanton pendant
Then what even is the point. We're plagiarising here.
split mortar
Aaaaaa
wheat walrus
Then what even is the point. We're plagiarising here.
weak
light linden
anyways
why did I even come here
oh right
do we know anything about how people went from building to building in illmeris?
wanton pendant
Swim.
wheat walrus
duh
wanton pendant
Then some crazy woman burned down all the buildings.
light linden
Swim.
that's potentially a lot of water pressure and a lot of children drowning if the distance is too far
light linden
we know there weren't just them there though
e.g. statis and braelor went there once
long bloom
can confirm
hoary cape
Statis and Braelore obviously just said no and didn't give permission for the water to drown them
wanton pendant
Everyone just gets this handed to them when they cross the border.
deft vessel
They clearly used the technique of when you blow out an air bubble, you quickly move in to breath in the air bubble so you get air underwater
hoary cape
CO2 my beloved
cosmic zenith
<@539939237898747947> hey is this true?
Yeah, some of the design images of Vetrasyl are public, just not an official concept art
light linden
oh ok
cosmic zenith
The design is settled at this point, the art is just being made
light linden
can't lie
I feel like my ideas for what dragons looked like are a lot more abstract than what they really look like
I've always imagined Vetrasyl having lightning instead of the patagium of his wings
long bloom
pee channel when
wanton pendant
How about we not implement that idea.
nimble mantle
Draedon should've created a room that looks like a minesweeper maze room
hoary cape
Really right in front of me
cosmic zenith
I've always imagined Vetrasyl having lightning instead of the patagium of his wi...
He doesn't have those :p
Dragons are usually on the more mystical and abstract side
faint totem
wanton pendant
Yharim approves.
light linden
He doesn't have those :p
oh right he's a wyvern ain't he?
cosmic zenith
The Progenitor of Wyverns, yes
Last I checked, he didn't have biological wings but could manifest lightning ones
spring plover
Do calamity draedon and the terraria cyborg know each other
wanton pendant
Do calamity draedon and the terraria cyborg know each other
The guy who made the cyborg wants to be better, and told the cyborg about Draedon, but they likely never met.
jaunty wraith
Do we have lore for cyborg?
jaunty wraith
Is that offical?
wanton pendant
Yeah.
jaunty wraith
I dont recall any of the vanilla npcs having lore
wanton pendant
Some have a little.
Like Guide's from Azafure, allegedly. And Demolitionist and Tax Collector, assuming the others here aren't lying to me.
jaunty wraith
Guide has to have some relationship to the underworld
Considering sacrificing him is how you summon the wof
wanton pendant
The question is if that's diegetic in Calamity.
Or if he's just some poor guy we sacrifice.
jaunty wraith
I recall somewhere that guide is planned to have a relation
split mortar
Found the quote surprisingly easy
wanton pendant
He'll be back.
loud hull
вы чё нахуй
хули не работает каламитьи
кал или чё
убью всех
3 минуты вам фиксануть мне
wanton pendant
I think this server is intended for English.
split mortar
Yea
jaunty wraith
Think we'll ever get a hallow lore entry?
split mortar
Think we'll ever get a hallow lore entry?
Yharim avoids talking about the hallowed
wanton pendant
One isn't canon, the other, well, you got that answer already.
Halloween should be canon.
I'm not biased.
jaunty wraith
I think its not because adding religious references would complicate this world of gods
wanton pendant
And the why is because it makes him look bad.
wanton pendant
I think its not because adding religious references would complicate this world ...
One of the debuffs is literally a cross.
Where does Jesus Christ fit into the lore.
jaunty wraith
I dont think debuff symbols are canon
wanton pendant
Hallow is literally named 'Hallow'.
jaunty wraith
Hallow means somthing that is holy or pure. Has heavy associations with Christianity but isn't linked to it
wanton pendant
So why would 'All Hallows Eve' be banned?
If the word Hallow exists.
Or just rename it to Oíche Shamhna. Nobody will ever know.
nimble mantle
Idk why there are people who often consider it canon when such word exists
nimble mantle
Exorcism the item
Oh yeah
plucky juniper
for some reason when i was starting getting into terraria when i first learned that a third infectious biome separate from the evil biomes at the beginning game existed and was called "the Hallow", i thought it was going to be a halloween-themed evil biome
not
yknow
literal rainbows and sunshine
nimble mantle
for some reason when i was starting getting into terraria when i first learned t...
._.
split mortar
Peak
nimble mantle
I wonder what every ore smells like
plucky juniper
This does actually happen
does it act like this
somber wren
I wonder what every ore smells like
A lot of ores are real metals so we don't need to guess.
Orichalcum probably spells like bubble gum
Adamantite I imagine smells a little like an electrical fire. It's a very distinct smell so I don't know anything else to compare with it
Hallowed Ore probably spells like rosemary
plucky juniper
Astral Ore probably smells like whatever the hell a neutron star smells like.
wanton pendant
A lot of ores are real metals so we don't need to guess.
Orichalcum probably sp...
Orichalcum is brass.
Like, it's actually real.
somber wren
Oh, I didn't know that
somber wren
Astral Ore probably smells like whatever the hell a neutron star smells like.
Nah, it smells like Raspberry rum
wanton pendant
It's a very old term for it, and it's generally used to refer to a very early impure version, like that's what the Romans called it.
Well, it might be not exactly be what we call brass, it's mostly close enough.
Adamantite smells like Wolverine. Or maybe the other way round.
hoary cape
Orichalcum is pink in terraria for some reason
wanton pendant
Pink gold.
With copper.
To make pink gold copper alloy, or as it may have been called, Orichalcum. Or the spriters were drunk.
wanton pendant
It's red because red is cool.
Technically, adamant was an old word for diamond, I think it's Latin.
So technically... We're mining diamonds for armour and tools.
plucky juniper
orichalcum in more modernish fiction tends to be used as a mythical substance that does plot device stuff
leaden locust
does it act like this
is this gonna be xeroc
plucky juniper
it went from a funny alloy that people forgot what it was to a phlebotinum
wanton pendant
orichalcum in more modernish fiction tends to be used as a mythical substance th...
Many things do stuff.
plucky juniper
plot device stuff
wanton pendant
Like plutonium. That does DoT.
plucky juniper
i know that garbage second aquaman movie has orichalcum as an evil mutative substance thats also a super fossil fuel
yes you're hearing me correctly
wanton pendant
The greatest power in DC is the chaos emeralds an equation that lets you control minds, that isn't remotely that crazy in comic books.
plucky juniper
i know but like
its orichalcum
this was originally basically brass
and somehow years of people not knowing that it was brass led to it becoming a super-evil fossil fuel
wanton pendant
They turned an old word for diamonds into super magic poison metal.
That can fight the Hulk.
Wait till you hear about Kryptonite.
plucky juniper
Wait till you hear about Kryptonite.
well um ackshually the element is called krypton so you should be instead saying the planet is named after the element
wanton pendant
If I remember right, ite means it's combined with oxygen.
(they cant, they're noble gases or something.)
So it's just, Krypton and Oxygen.
For some reason it's radioactive.
And photosynthesizers hate it.
plucky juniper
And photosynthesizers hate it.
hasty wolf
If I remember right, ite means it's combined with oxygen.
Pretty sure it’s called kryptonite purely because it sounds cooler.
wanton pendant
Yeah, that's the real reason.
But the idea that it's a nonsensical combination that for some reason is also radioactive is funny.
Wait, how the hell do we smelt Cryonic ore?
hasty wolf
We just set it on the mantle and it melts
wanton pendant
How does that give workable bars? Wouldn't it be water?
hasty wolf
Magic ✨✨✨
wanton pendant
Does everyone in the Calamity Universe just hate thermodynamics?
plucky juniper
Wait, how the hell do we smelt Cryonic ore?
ive heard its more crystal than ice
so maybe?
wanton pendant
Then how are we smelting crystals!?
Like, if they're carbon based they'd eventually evaporate, like diamond.
hasty wolf
I don’t see anything in the description actually stating they’re icy.
wanton pendant
Are we really going to try and argue CRYOnic bars have nothing to do with ice.
distant smelt
Given every circumstance that they’re found under its a safe assumption
wanton pendant
Made by Permafrost.
hasty wolf
Are we really going to try and argue CRYOnic bars have nothing to do with ice.
Ice magic and ice are not the same.
wanton pendant
Because if I have to argue that something's name being relevant to it's nature again...
Ice magic and ice. Are both involving ice somewhere.
hasty wolf
Something involving ice magic doesn’t need to be constantly cold. It could just be normal metal from a nonmagic perspective
distant smelt
You find them in the ice biome after beating the ice boss and freeing the ice wizard who makes them with ice magic and are named after the greek root word for ice
And you wish to argue that they are not even ice-like?
wanton pendant
'Cryonic Ore, as the Archmage simply calls it, is a material seemingly akin to iced over glass.'
Nothing about that screams smeltable.
wanton pendant
"The ice caves are crackling with frigid energy."
hasty wolf
You find them in the ice biome after beating the ice boss and freeing the ice wi...
I’m just saying it’s fully possible the name refers to it’s powerful magical properties, rather than it’s physical ones.
wanton pendant
It's physical properties is that it looks like icy glass and is strong.
And is made by an ice wizard in an ice biome unlocked by beating the ice boss and it's named after ice.
distant smelt
I’m just saying it’s fully possible the name refers to it’s powerful magical pro...
It just seems unlikely
wanton pendant
This mod has very to the point names. Guess what the Devourer of Gods does.
If it's named after something, it's probably related.
long bloom
guess what yharon's domain is
wanton pendant
Yharim dragon, you mean?
long bloom
yes
distant smelt
This mod has very to the point names. Guess what the Devourer of Gods does.
Does he use brimstone flames to scorch his enemies?
wanton pendant
Or perhaps, Yharon, Dragon of Rebirth.
wanton pendant
Does he use brimstone flames to scorch his enemies?
How did you know?
distant smelt
Lucky guess
wanton pendant
Or even Yharon, Resplendent Phoenix.
distant smelt
The bird that’s most well known for coming back to life?
Probably does taxes or something
Idk
wanton pendant
I think he has power over poultry.
long bloom
you could say he calls upon the eggs
wanton pendant
I wonder what Calamitas does, with her brothers Catastrophe and Cataclysm.
Permafrost... What's his deal?
distant smelt
Geomancy obviously
wanton pendant
Slime God... What does he do all day?
long bloom
what species is crabulon
distant smelt
Lobster
wanton pendant
Duck?
wanton pendant
Brimstone Elemental... I bet it has some kind of lightning based power.
long bloom
what does mauler do
wanton pendant
How old is Old Duke, so you think? I bet he's actually the younger one.
true bone
I heart Yharon
somber wren
Nothing about that screams smeltable.
Maybe it has such potent cold properties that you need an incredibly hot fire to overcome the cold magic in order to bring the metal to its melting point?
And then once the metal is shaped and cooled again, the cold magic refreezes it, causing it to take on an appearance similar to icy glass
distant smelt
Cooking
somber wren
what species is crabulon
That's a Trick question.
Crabulon is a cordyceps fungus
leaden locust
was it really our intention to ascend the enemy beyond our control?
pliant ruin
my fault
pliant ruin
youre welcome im cheese
leaden locust
I guess that really was a… calamity
one could even say, a supreme calamity, it was.
nimble mantle
they really did manage to demolish whatever we made 😔
If we could, we would easily butcher them whole
somber wren
While they're blinded by their depression
long bloom
it even got to the point where we're just too afraid
cloud ibex
Disagree
robust osprey
I disagree with YOUR disagree
stoic gulch
I agree with Maxie
robust osprey
I am smart
cloud ibex
lore discussion
stoic gulch
Truth
real silo
yhimaxing
robust osprey
I will seek your gods
stoic gulch
I am actually very lore relevant
No you’re pea
robust osprey
Lea is canon terrarian
the terrarian is you...but the terrarian is lea..
that means I am lea too
stoic gulch
the terrarian is you...but the terrarian is lea..
Ok mea
untold oracle
that means I am lea too
True!
leaden locust
Lèa (evil Léa) is also canon
untold oracle
Who the FUCK is Lèa
leaden locust
Wing Gaster
untold oracle
Lèa
leaden locust
the accent mark is a light switch
leaden locust
the little dash above the e
fleet wedge
The issue with that is that chicken sucks.
No
leaden locust
how do you not know this while having one
fleet wedge
orichalcum in more modernish fiction tends to be used as a mythical substance th...
So basically a more modern version of mythril?
real silo
the little dash above the e
robust osprey
Accent WHAT
you use accent in your oc's name and dont know what that is?
the accent is mark
mark (')
mighty zenith
<:mewhenmygangfuckingdies:1362177910689235124>
mental illinois
untold oracle
how do you not know this while having one
I KNOW WHAT IT IS
ACCENT MARK
MARK
MARK LIKE
untold oracle
<:mewhenmygangfuckingdies:1362177910689235124>
^^^^^
wanton pendant
Oh hi Mark.
robust osprey
aèp
wanton pendant
Mark is integral to the lore. He witnesses the bite.
split mortar
Mark (E) is canon to calamity
balmy glacier
changelogs tomorrow
robust osprey
mark will appear in yharim bossfight
split mortar
Yharim takes 1% damage from the terrarian over the long fight and mark beats yharims head in with a rock and leaves
random mulch
701 - Added live Markiplier reaction in the corner during every boss fight.
wanton pendant
Add Markiplier difficulty.
balmy glacier
u die of bite of 87 when it’s active
random mulch
"So the first boss is never usually that bad in any of the mods"
long bloom
"so i'll play through- AH FUCK"
wanton pendant
'I am the KING... OF THE DRAGON'S AERIE!'
spring helm
real check the lore doc
wanton pendant
Lies, deception.
limpid saddle
how are we lore chat
long bloom
bad
fleet wedge
Lies, deception.
Lies of P||opcorn||, you could say 
errant lintel
are these goofy books relevant to the lore whatsoever
crimson junco
that's not base Cal
split mortar
I dont think thats base calamity
errant lintel
oh well that's just another change im finding out about that ISN'T from calamity
zenith geode
thats wotg
crimson junco
maybe you shouldn't play 500 mods at once in your first playthrough
errant lintel
pmo how much they updated the mod, getting me confused and all
split mortar
If its not in calamity then its not calamitys fault for its existence
errant lintel
maybe you shouldn't play 500 mods at once in your first playthrough
it isn't my first, I just haven't played in a good while so the mods I had didn't have these features
crimson junco
that also applies the same too
anyways you can put the item in Recipe Browser to know what mod is it from
young socket
are these goofy books relevant to the lore whatsoever
please get the "what mod is this from" mod
crimson junco
or download a dedicated mod for it ^
errant lintel
that's a thing?
split mortar
Yes there is at least 1 mod dedicated to that
light linden
are these goofy books relevant to the lore whatsoever
no it's wotg
some books in it are canon to wotg lore though
grizzled pivot
i like how under my calamitas family in wplace there's a little brazilian flag
can we make her canonically brazilian now
i think that'd be funny
split mortar
i like how under my calamitas family in wplace there's a little brazilian flag
...
A Brazilian person is a inspiration for the personality of calamitas
grizzled pivot
A Brazilian person is a inspiration for the personality of calamitas
for real?
grizzled pivot
i now know the most elite ball calamitas knowledge known to man
plucky juniper
i like how under my calamitas family in wplace there's a little brazilian flag
...
two of them
icy veldt
Now kith
plucky juniper
tuah them!
wheat walrus
How can such an L rizzler contain so much dihlusion?
wanton pendant
Finally, a lore question.
split mortar
On about yharim i think????????
wanton pendant
Allow me to attempt a translation; How could such a charismatic yet flawed man be so beset by delusions of glory?
wheat walrus
you ruined it
wanton pendant
Wow, ok, sorry for localizing. Not everyone speaks Tiktok.
wheat walrus
Wow, ok, sorry for localizing. Not everyone speaks Tiktok.
localization moment 😔 twisting and removing the meaning from things
it's so funny calling this a localization moment when you did the opposite
split mortar
localization moment 😔 twisting and removing the meaning from things
The monster hunters know it too well
wheat walrus
The monster hunters know it too well
most monster hunter players dont give a shit
i do though
how is it possible that the only time they mention the term forbidden monster in localized material, they straight up remove it from the localization
wanton pendant
When are we getting Louie's notes for the bestiary?
wheat walrus
how is it possible that the only time they mention the term forbidden monster in...
of all games, it's wilds too, the one that otherwise has lwk the best localizations for dialogue
magic epoch
How
eager bluff
how would we
wanton pendant
What do you mean?
long bloom
add dog to smash ultimate
wanton pendant
Lore accurate in size. Half a Ridley.
split mortar
I wonder if we let DoG enter other universes
Theres no confirmation other universes exists (distortion is attached to our universe in some way i forgor)
And DoG is better suited to reaching into other universes itself then whats available to us in game
So
???????????
wanton pendant
The Old Ones Army.
wanton pendant
Someone's not an Old Ones Army truther.
jaunty wraith
I only do it cause I like seeing questbook completly filled
I dont even think its canon yo terraria, let alone calamity
wanton pendant
Oh, well, in that case.
It is canon to Terraria, it's literally shown in the games ending.
But not Calamity, but still, in our hearts.
wanton pendant
Tavern Keep is just, like, a guy, who sells alcohol, I guess.
jaunty wraith
Not every npc needs to have a deep backstory
wanton pendant
Backstory: Has a j*b.
long bloom
jon
jaunty wraith
Backstory: Has a j*b.
Please refrain from using the j word, if you have to use it at least censor it
wanton pendant
There, happy now?
jaunty wraith
Thank you, now i wont cry to sleep at the thought of it
humble basin
Random Speculation
I think, it's possible that The World Soul, was a god before the dragons ascended. That their 'breaking of the world soul' was them slaying the original deity of the world, who held power over every domain, and resulted in them taking the shards of its soul into their own making the Auric Souls (much like was done to them later when it was discovered that man could consume auric souls to become gods).
Maybe it wasn't really a living and conscious thing, but so far souls have bodies and we've seen that if a god is slain and their soul isn't 'stored' then it kind of seeps into things and causes stuff like the corruption/crimson. Considering the world itself wasn't destroyed I don't think the original 'vessel' of the World Soul was the world itself but rather the world's first god.
wanton pendant
Well, technically it wouldn't be what is considered a god in Calamity's terms.
But I get what you're saying.
humble basin
Yeah true, not the 'god' but an original deity of sorts
jaunty wraith
The term god could be loose
long bloom
it's very firm
jaunty wraith
Like according to the lore entry, astrum deus is seen as a god despite not being auric
wanton pendant
Just being called a god or being strong does not a god make.
So neither Astrum Deus or Devourer of Gods are gods.
Since neither ate an auric soul.
long bloom
Like according to the lore entry, astrum deus is seen as a god despite not being...
it's worshipped as a god
it's not actually a god
jaunty wraith
Its not one, by the definition of calamity
wanton pendant
Again, being strong or worshipped doesn't make you a god.
Since there is an in-universe definition for the term.
humble basin
I hate to use the term "one true god", but it's been VERY vague about what the World Soul was.
I think it'd be VERY classic story telling, if the World Soul was a deity that the dragons killed and took fragments of its soul to ascend. Thus what goes around comes around.
jaunty wraith
The only person who calls DoG a god is himself
wanton pendant
Something being mistaken as a god doesn't make it a god.
wanton pendant
The only person who calls DoG a god is himself
He's a narcissist.
long bloom
I hate to use the term "one true god", but it's been VERY vague about what the W...
would be cool
jaunty wraith
Yeah, he isn't even the highest order of the distortion
wanton pendant
Very little on 'The World Soul' is really, there, right now, and some lanugage does phrase as if the dragons were given their souls.
So it's possible it was some, thing, that sacrificed itself.
Same as how it's implied at least some dragons sacrificed themselves to create gods.
Or at least may have.
humble basin
That's true! But that bit of history is usually from a second hand account.
humble basin
Of course the dragons wouldn't say "Oh yeah we killed jesus to become immortal divine beings"
wanton pendant
Canonically it's an omniscient and unbiased source.
jaunty wraith
Yharim certainly wont mention the dragons willingly giving thier soul thays for sure
wanton pendant
(I guess technically the bestiary entries only exist for the player, not the Terrarian.)
jaunty wraith
It conflicts with his narritive
wanton pendant
'Dragons who were born after all the auric souls had been gifted to their kind were forced to make do without, forever outside of the cycle of rebirth.'
Bestiary entry.
humble basin
Hmmmmmm
icy veldt
I hate to use the term "one true god", but it's been VERY vague about what the W...
I was honestly thinking the same thing and had been doing some work on a submod that's currently indefinitely backburnered: in the submod, Terraria had a single mother goddess called Aurōra Māter (where the descriptor Auric came from), before the dragons came from elsewhere to tear her divine world-soul to shreds that they then devoured, so they could rule over Terraria as oppressive bandit-kings
wanton pendant
Dragons were gifted their souls, objectively. But from who or how?
wanton pendant
I was honestly thinking the same thing and had been doing some work on a submod ...
Someone had trouble with the Yharon fight.
icy veldt
I was honestly thinking the same thing and had been doing some work on a submod ...
None of this is canon to Calamity, of course, but that should go without saying (keyword: should)
humble basin
And gifted could be interpreted in multiple ways
wanton pendant
Like, for instance, other dragons.
Giving up souls they stole.
Or again, some greater being or force sacrificed itself.
humble basin
I like the idea that the old dragon told Xeroc about the whole 'we got our auric souls from an external source' and that gave Xeroc the idea of taking an Auric soul into himself in the first place.
cosmic zenith
Dragons were gifted their souls, objectively. But from who or how?
It was me the World Soul fell from my hands and shattered in the ground
I gifted the shards to the Dragons to hide the evidence make some cool ass mythical beasts
wanton pendant
Thanks for the lore drop.
cosmic zenith
;)
humble basin
"Oh shit- Uhhhh- The lizards did it!"
"Look they're chewing on the fragments now."
insert that audio clip of chewing on rocks
cosmic zenith
humble basin
What do you mean audio clip of chewing on rocks.
It will take me a second to find but I will provide
wanton pendant
Do I want that?
humble basin
My bad, it's used in memes about eating rocks but it's a cat asmr of eating ice it seems
https://www.youtube.com/shorts/dTvVKRXAahw?feature=share
cosmic zenith
wanton pendant
I'll pass on watching that.
humble basin
https://tenor.com/view/100-gif-549184224117281305
Me with the bricks from the starting bag
icy veldt
Someone had trouble with the Yharon fight.
Tbh I thought of that idea back when I had misinterpreted the devs' intentions as trying to make Yharim more sympathetic. I joined this server to learn more about the lore, so I could flesh out and correct my submod as necessary, and found out that the devs were portraying Yharim as trying to make himself look sympathetic
cosmic zenith
I crave the nourishment from earthly constructs
icy veldt
I bulk on chunks of uranium
humble basin
From the earth I have come and from the earth will I sustain
wanton pendant
Tbh I thought of that idea back when I had misinterpreted the devs' intentions a...
How did you conclude that the dragons were evil, Anakin?
I'm here because I like discussing writing and I want to accurately portray the characters when I imagine them living their cruel world.
icy veldt
How did you conclude that the dragons were evil, Anakin?
I figured that, since Yharim's knowledge of the Draconic Era came solely from a dragon, he could very well have been lied to, so I took that implication and ran with it
wanton pendant
I figured that, since Yharim's knowledge of the Draconic Era came solely from a ...
Yeah that isn't unreasonable.
Yharon likely wasn't the most unbiased source.
Like, his race got genocided, no matter how bad they may have been he had a good reason to be furious.
And if he had to nudge the narrative a little to get vengeance?
Yeah, I can see it.
Then Yharim killed everyone, but who's counting.
cosmic zenith
People tend to see new lore Yharim as more sympathetic and heroic because the notion that a villain can be both relatable and deliberately evil doesn't really cross their minds
Which is fair, because that's counterintuitive to some extent
icy veldt
And if he had to nudge the narrative a little to get vengeance?
Is vengeance against all the millions/billions of ordinary people who are trying to live their lives, really what a "benevolent protector" would want?
cosmic zenith
But that's what Yharim is
And I think it's a pretty neat exploration of the human nature
humble basin
I mean it's implied that he was at least in with the gods before everything, too. Afterall they were going to elevate him to godhood with the last known auric soul.
wanton pendant
He very much fluctuates from being apologetic to being zealous. It really comes off as that in the lore items.
long bloom
And I think it's a pretty neat exploration of the human nature
yharim is extremely cool yes
icy veldt
I don't find Yharim relatable. He cares too much about empty platitudes like "freedom" and "justice", but at least he's a good example of why those slogans exist: to justify acts like his own
humble basin
People can be all kinds of grey
wanton pendant
Like, they either end with him doubling down on what he did, or expressing regret, he's rarely ambivalent.
It's like he sees everything... as black and white...
long bloom
I don't find Yharim relatable. He cares too much about empty platitudes like "fr...
say those again..
icy veldt
Like, they either end with him doubling down on what he did, or expressing regre...
His regret is entirely performative
Freedom, hope, justice: they are no more than delusions and lies! We use them to justify the death and destruction left in our wake! I cannot tolerate it any longer! I have seen the rot that runs through our crusade's "justice", and it justifies nothing. My memories are full of the screams of those I have killed. Where others see life, I see only death. We all know how this will end. We always have known.
It ends in blood.
cosmic zenith
I wouldn't call Yharim relatable to myself because I haven't been through the experiences he did, but his traumas definitely aren't just a convenient excuse to commit acts of evil
They genuinely scarred him
That said, he does think his actions are justifiable
Does that make sense?
humble basin
I wouldn't call Yharim relatable to myself because I haven't been through the ex...
Also literally scarred him
icy veldt
I wouldn't call Yharim relatable to myself because I haven't been through the ex...
Yharim wouldn't have been cast down into lava if he just did his job properly
cosmic zenith
Like, his trauma isn't a performance, but it provides a foundation for his evil impulses
humble basin
Also also, it definitely looks like it was a build towards the true atrocities. Slips here and there down a slope that lead to further allowances and slips in the future.
cosmic zenith
If Yharim "did his job properly" (ascended with Yharon's soul), there would be a sect of dictators ruling Terraria
icy veldt
As opposed to Yharim not doing it properly, where there's no one ruling Terraria and almost no one left to rule
cosmic zenith
Things aren't bad to that extent
There are still people, and ruling Terraria is a terrible idea either way
icy veldt
Hence the "almost no one"
wanton pendant
I once imagined that a Yharim who became god-king would end up leading a crusade anyway.
cosmic zenith
A more accurate "Yharim if he did things properly" would be if he got thrown in lava yet only sought revenge against those who posed a genuine threat against the world; someone in his position could've done that!
But it's Yharim. He's not a good person like that.
wanton pendant
He decided to kill anyone vaguely associated with the thing he had an issue with.
icy veldt
A more accurate "Yharim if he did things properly" would be if he got thrown in ...
A better version would be if he got thrown in lava and just died there
long bloom
true
cosmic zenith
That'd be a pretty neutral ending
humble basin
He kind of took the whole "Every god can only exist from the slaughter of a dragon- So all of them have committed an inexcusable sin and are irredeemable, even those that have made a name as truly benevolent and are loved by their people." really really too far.
cosmic zenith
It's not unlikely that those Gods would retry the Yharim plot
wanton pendant
And also anyone who worships a god is guilty by proxy, since they endorse genocide.
humble basin
Ilmeris
wanton pendant
Ilmeris was more so 'we need to get these two gods, let's nuke Italy to get 'em.'
And in the process, the pious died too, win-win.
icy veldt
I wouldn't mind a neutral ending. People with both the ambition and the power necessary to "improve" the world are rarely good
wanton pendant
I could totally do it. What could possibly go wrong?
humble basin
I wouldn't mind a neutral ending. People with both the ambition and the power ne...
Certainly wouldn't have made for a very fun mod
icy veldt
You got me
wanton pendant
Tale of a standard world.
cosmic zenith
The mod's ending is technically neutral
humble basin
I could totally do it. What could possibly go wrong?
Surely I wouldn't be absolutely corrupted by absolute power.
cosmic zenith
Much is in ruins, but there's hope that the world can be rebuilt
And I think that's a pretty important component of Calamity's lore
humble basin
Yeah I take the actual events in-game as "civilization can rebuild and new community can flourish even in the worst of places"
Honestly fairly upbeat for the overall tone of the past lore
wanton pendant
It's like, post-apocalyptic in a way.
cosmic zenith
Things may get terrible, but they don't end there, and there's always a chance for a brighter future for the people that seek it
wanton pendant
That's why we need to fist fight the sun.
humble basin
post-apocalyptic hopepunk
cosmic zenith
Pretty much
Though I wouldn't call it a proper apocalypse
wanton pendant
I mean, Calamitas has the worst life imaginable, but then tries to prevent stuff from getting worse by fighting you.
She could just hide in a cave forever.
humble basin
Yeah I think it was more a- Post-war feeling.
long bloom
post-calamity
wanton pendant
One hell of a war.
wanton pendant
post-*calamity* <:XD:936106628833488906>
Say that again?
humble basin
post-*calamity* <:XD:936106628833488906>
That got a real chuckle
cosmic zenith
It's more of a.... "what if WW1 covered a lot more ground and had superpowered people?"
wanton pendant
That's what the history books hide from you.
cosmic zenith
post-*calamity* <:XD:936106628833488906>
wanton pendant
(Percy Jackson actually had a minor detail that WW2 actually was fought by superpowered people.)
icy veldt
Things may get terrible, but they don't end there, and there's always a chance f...
Honestly, my Terrarian would be too broken down by the world to want to rebuild it. He'd be a bit like Sergeant Avitus (my namesake) in Dawn of War II: "War is all we are. Killing is all we are good for! The rest is delusion." and "This is all that remains: blood and fury!" and "Faith is a lie! Truth is a lie!"
Except in Terraria, he'd do it out of a fear of hope. Hope is what Yharim promised, after all. "Yharim tried to fight for a better world, and look how that ended up. I'm not going to make the same mistake"
humble basin
Big government doesn't want you to know about how we fused the souls of our soldiers into a giant spiked skull robot
wanton pendant
I'm too busy hopemaxxing to read something so despairful.
cosmic zenith
It's a reasonable approach, though yeah - there's always someone out there who still has hope
And genocidal warlords are not the default
humble basin
Hopemaxxing, really dream pilled
cosmic zenith
Except in grimdark
icy veldt
"And that someone was Yharim, once"
cosmic zenith
Grimdark is, by definition, hopeless
wanton pendant
I mean, if you hopeless too much into the abyss, it all becomes pointless.
humble basin
Who would win:
The crushing despair of a post war society
Vs
A dude with a copper shortsword
wanton pendant
So, uh, who the hell is the Princess then?
cosmic zenith
I mean, if you hopeless too much into the abyss, it all becomes pointless.
Not necessarily
humble basin
So, uh, who the hell is the Princess then?
THATS A GREAT QUESTION