#lore-discussion

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visual kiln
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dog: yharim made me do it

mighty zenith
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dog: fever dream made me do it

icy veldt
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"I beg you: spare me, Malos! This was not my will! The daemons writhing beneath this vessel's skin whispered, promised. It was a moment of weakness; I will serve, I will serve!" - Akryst Vane, Battlefleet Gothic: Armada II

pliant ruin
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brainrot

wanton pendant
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Is there a lore reason Chara made him do it?

split mortar
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Chara made the lore writers do it

balmy glacier
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xeroc: why i made myself do IT?

wanton pendant
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Providence: I love murder.

icy veldt
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Xeroc spelled backwards is Corex
Chorex
Charex
Charax
Chara

cloud ibex
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mold

wanton pendant
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What did tony mean by this?

pliant ruin
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we stop the interesting lore chat convo to return to your regularly scheduled Fog

wanton pendant
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We need to figure out why civilian murder was integral to the plan, they can't have all been that religious!

split mortar
fierce pagoda
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How is it possible to hold Dreadon accountable, bro doesnt gaf

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and he's too elusive

wanton pendant
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I'm trying to get back on track.

pliant ruin
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I mean you can't really

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He's like

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the internet

tropic oak
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why would yharim make me do this

pliant ruin
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You can't kill the internet dude

wanton pendant
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Sorry for bringing up Chara (Chara made me do it.)

fierce pagoda
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We just let Dreadon go free

visual kiln
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is draedon

wanton pendant
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He has backup bodies, even if we found him he'd live.

split mortar
fierce pagoda
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at least he givess us sick ass exo technology

balmy glacier
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what dragon was first to be ever born? chances of it being zeratros?

fierce pagoda
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thank you dreadon you're excused in my book

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bribery

wanton pendant
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Chances are it's near impossible to actually kill him.

pliant ruin
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The first three dragons where Life, Death and Yharon

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We know thta much

visual kiln
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weh im so out of the loop rn

split mortar
wanton pendant
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Yharon is rebirth.

pliant ruin
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Might've not necessarily been the first born yeah

wanton pendant
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Life, death and resurrection is one hell of a trio.

pliant ruin
pliant ruin
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Ah yes. the three states of being

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I'm alive.

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I'm dead.

fierce pagoda
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Zeratros clutched the craziest Gacha Auric Soul banner roll of all time and pulled the Soul of Primordial light

pliant ruin
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I'm yharon

wanton pendant
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I am the storm.

tropic oak
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raelvanna :)

pliant ruin
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Oh right that's her name

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forgot

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Raelvanna. right

visual kiln
cloud ibex
visual kiln
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also @tropic oak hiiiii

tropic oak
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hi

wanton pendant
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Oh, the Vcmm stands for Vanilla Calamity Mod Music.

split mortar
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Music mod but yeah

visual kiln
split mortar
wanton pendant
young socket
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my name is draedon

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i made the draedon

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it was difficult

split mortar
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SHUT UP

wanton pendant
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I made the exo mechs.

young socket
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to put the pieces together

split mortar
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KILLING YOU

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DIE

young socket
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but something went so wrong

cloud ibex
young socket
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and now i cant do anything

cloud ibex
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an actual thing

young socket
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but sing this stupid song!

split mortar
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DIVINE DEATH SKELETON BLAST

pliant ruin
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Raelvanna is a name that Stip made for Dragon of Life

cloud ibex
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tsuki i'm gonna throw rocks at you

pliant ruin
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I'm not sure if it's 100% confirmed yet

young socket
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its not confirmed

split mortar
tropic oak
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correct

pliant ruin
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But it seems like so?

tropic oak
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not Confirmed

wanton pendant
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When is Mucus Dragon canon?

pliant ruin
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Atleast it's likely

tropic oak
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i js really fuck with the name ralevanna

fierce pagoda
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Has Providences domain been confirmed yet

pliant ruin
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Yeah what melon said

pliant ruin
wanton pendant
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Sacred fire or something?

cloud ibex
wanton pendant
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Damn it.

fierce pagoda
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Ash sounds kinda horrible to have control over

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I mean evidently it ISNT

visual kiln
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how many dragons do we know of

wanton pendant
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No, she makes ash. Out of you.

fierce pagoda
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But like "hey guys i control ash" get the hell out

wanton pendant
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The power to turn people into ash.

tropic oak
wanton pendant
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At least three.

split mortar
pliant ruin
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Unsure if i'm missing any

tropic oak
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cheese do u think i should er

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make a dragons section in our thing

pliant ruin
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Actually let me fix something

cloud ibex
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that's just me rotting

pliant ruin
tropic oak
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alright

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below the gods it goes

eager bluff
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providence lord of cinder

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cluebed

wanton pendant
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Wouldn't it be Lady?

cloud ibex
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lady of cinders

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gwyn took hrt

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good for her, good for her,

wanton pendant
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Gender Change Potion strikes again.

fierce pagoda
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So glad we get to murk Providence, she lowkey pmo icl😪

wanton pendant
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Somehow, she would be the worst boss to spare.

fierce pagoda
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Providence, do that little ProviDance i like

pliant ruin
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Yharim when it comes to killing the incredibly benevolent and beloved by their people gods of sacrifice and electricity 📈

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Yharim when it comes to killing the goddess of ash that's like the most evil motherfucker that has ever existed 📉

wanton pendant
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Otonilou had it coming for violating thermodynamics.

tropic oak
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otonilou when the challenge is to be a bad god

wanton pendant
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And Providence is a little coward who runs away when strong fighters show up.

balmy glacier
fierce pagoda
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Providence is just Anti-Life, thats why she needs to die i hate her sm

wanton pendant
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So sorry if they started with the easy ones like fish guy and shocker.

fierce pagoda
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If providence has 0 haters im dead

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Fuck you providence

wanton pendant
balmy glacier
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amidias had beef with providence?

fierce pagoda
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Amidias is my Goat, what a lovely guy

split mortar
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Who dont

wanton pendant
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Is there a lore reason my phone is playing Scourge of the Universe for no reason?

pliant ruin
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Amidias is my favorite sea horse horse man sea horse horse

cloud ibex
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yea i think basically everyone except for her followers and her gatekeep gaslight girlboss squad have beef with her on account of being Alive and not wanting to be Dead

balmy glacier
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valid

fierce pagoda
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Lowkey hypocritical

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kill everyone expect my friends

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grrr she makes me so mad

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so glad we get to kill her, thank you calamity devs🙏🙏🙏

cloud ibex
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i guess in theory she would, if she succeeded, kill the guardians too

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but i wonder if she could ever actually bring herself to do it

fierce pagoda
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She'd fail, cuz thats all she is a failure

balmy glacier
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she absolutely would

pliant ruin
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I don't think she would tbh

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That's a big thing about Providence, she's a hypocrite lol

fierce pagoda
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yeah!!

pliant ruin
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Her ideology is just a mask for her rage against the world

fierce pagoda
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yeah!!!!

pliant ruin
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Like she literally goes after you after you kill the Guardians because she's fucking Angy at you

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Even though by her own ideology

fierce pagoda
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tell them

pliant ruin
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It shouldn't really matter that much

wanton pendant
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Even people who like the gods hate Providence.

cloud ibex
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in Embers iirc they die at the start of the story but i think it'd be interesting if she actually cares too much about them to do what she claims needs to be done

real glen
fierce pagoda
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I bet the Dragon of Wrath was chiller then Providence

wanton pendant
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Don't forget the mega mammoth.

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And Mucus Dragon.

cloud ibex
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unless she's just like "yeah now that everyone else is dead we've freed the world of suffering and pain yeah!!!!!!! yippee :DDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDDD"

pliant ruin
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Harder to be MORE of a dickhead than providence hdflr

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Like not even Yharim is dude

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😭

fierce pagoda
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Yeah Providence is something for herself...

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Down with the witch!

wanton pendant
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Providence is probably half the reason people sided with Yharim.

fierce pagoda
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Burn her with her very own flames!!

pliant ruin
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unironically i agree

wanton pendant
fierce pagoda
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I was referring to Providence

wanton pendant
pliant ruin
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of course people would be more susceptible to think all gods are bad if fucking Providence is around and they hadn't personally coexisted or interacted with a benevolent god to make them think otherwise

cloud ibex
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i imagine the difference between Prov and the DoF is that she wants to kill everything to free everyone from pain, while the DoF did it solely to be a bastard

fierce pagoda
pliant ruin
wanton pendant
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So that's who killed Calamitas' parents!

pliant ruin
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yharim and providence when asked why they're evil: (huge wall of text about their ideologies and how they're actually right)

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dragon of flame: its Fun Lol

fierce pagoda
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See, that Providence just made everything worse, imagine failing at literally everything you set out to accomplish

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hooh what a fraud

balmy glacier
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time to kill 7 billion people

somber wren
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6 billion demons

fierce pagoda
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How strong is blue Providence, like stronger than DoG type shit or is it just a little boost

pliant ruin
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Nah not stronger than DoG

fierce pagoda
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How much does it boost her

pliant ruin
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If i had to guess she's probably like, around Polter/Rav ?

fierce pagoda
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Super Saiyan Blue

pliant ruin
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Given that absolute/whateveryoucallit provi is just

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Provi with the power she gave to the guardians going back to her

fierce pagoda
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lowkey they really cooked with providence's character

split mortar
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I havent faced blue provi but my guess is like armourless dog level

fierce pagoda
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shes so fun to hate

wanton pendant
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I mean the better question is Blue Providence canon.

pliant ruin
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She's probably not Insanely stronger

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But still a sizable boost in power

spare pier
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I think Pure Providence is about as strong as DoG, but she also cannot beat DoG because he's a terrible matchup against her

pliant ruin
wanton pendant
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Just like Hyper Sonic.

split mortar
fierce pagoda
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is Pure Providence her blue name

pliant ruin
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Is the full-power transformation itself canon? Yes
Is the current method you use to get her canon? No

fierce pagoda
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So Blue Providence could beat the Old Duke

wanton pendant
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Isn't it gonna be use her summon while she's alive?

tropic oak
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the fucks the dragon hierarchy again

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Zeratros --> Yharon --> everyone else

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?

pliant ruin
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I think as far as we know yeah

split mortar
tropic oak
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alright

pliant ruin
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I wouldn't be surprised if

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(Just a headcanon but)

wanton pendant
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Why doesn't Providence lock in? Is she stupid? (Yes.)

pliant ruin
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Zeratros -> Yharon -> Life/Death Dragons -> Elemental Dragons -> Everyone else

tropic oak
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i know they dont have an actual hierarchy but those two are the most power

wanton pendant
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Then Fovos and Xeroc are the strongest.

fierce pagoda
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uhm uhm was Zeratros stronger than Scalamitas

pliant ruin
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I thinkkk so?

wanton pendant
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Good question.

pliant ruin
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Unsure

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Might've been around a similar strenght

fierce pagoda
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okay, okay

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is Jared getting retiered

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or is he remaining super duper strong

cloud ibex
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from what i remember zeratros and yharim were said to be about equal

fierce pagoda
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I thought Yharim was stronger than Zeraboy

wanton pendant
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So at present Calamitas is weaker.

pliant ruin
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Jared is in limbo but i think they have Plans for him :tm;

fierce pagoda
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okeii

somber wren
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Jared is cool, I'd hate to see him go.

wanton pendant
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Who wants seafood?

fierce pagoda
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Xeroc > moonlord > noxus > Yharim i think = Pre god Xeroc i think > Zeratros i think > Jared i think > Scal and exo

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no wait, Pre ascension Xeroc couldn't have been that strong

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or maybe he was

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IDK

tropic oak
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i have that image somewhere

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no idea if this is still right

fierce pagoda
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I like to Believe that Endgame terrarian is number 2 in the whole universe

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only behind Xeroc

split mortar
pliant ruin
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I'd say endgame Terrarian is probably similar in strenght to prime fovos

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In that they could actually put up a good fight against xeroc but would be almost certain to lose

fierce pagoda
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I think so too, but I like to believe that we would defeat Moonlord

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cuz i REALLY want to be number 2

wanton pendant
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It's strange for a child soldier and literal war machines to be equal in combat prowess.

fierce pagoda
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since i know i cant be number 1

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I dont wanna settle for number 3 hell nah

pliant ruin
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Tbf assuming we're similar in strenght to ml we probably could beat it yeah

fierce pagoda
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yippee!!

pliant ruin
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It'd be like a insanely though fight though

split mortar
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Imo prime moonlord is just a bit too strong for the in game terrarian (ignoring headcanon just gear) to actually beat

tropic oak
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prime fovos addon when

wanton pendant
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Like, I feel that Calamitas is probably more 'pure power' (though she is likely still very disciplined and proficient in magic in general, she wouldn't need it when nuking enemies.)

fierce pagoda
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with whatever loot we will get from Xeroc (if that ever happens) we gotta be geared up enough to beat Moonlord

tropic oak
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haha

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yeah if we ever actually beat the motherfucker

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#xerocblast

fierce pagoda
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pass his test or whatever

split mortar
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Pass the vibe test

fierce pagoda
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pass his calamity trivia quiz

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good to know that were already stronger than Yharim

tropic oak
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ive absorbed the auric soul of kicking ass so yharim definitely stands no chance

balmy glacier
fierce pagoda
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#Xerocblasted

tropic oak
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i hope the name raelvanna is canonized its actually a very nice name

balmy glacier
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there’s nothing as destructive in calamity world as mariah carey defrosting irl

fierce pagoda
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I hope Gloomborf turns out to actually be gluttony dragons name, it sound so silly

tropic oak
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still trying to come up with a dragon of flame name

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stip said he was taking suggestions

wanton pendant
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How do you do the cross out thing?

fierce pagoda
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Idk im kinda horrible at naming scthuff

tropic oak
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here

fierce pagoda
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Im named tetogator that should tell you my naming skills

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amazing

tropic oak
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Flame Dragon is set to have more medieval european inspirations in terms of design

european dragon name.,.........erm.......

icy veldt
wanton pendant
tropic oak
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NO !!!!!!!!!!!

wanton pendant
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It didn't work.

tropic oak
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its two of them

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~~

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like this

icy veldt
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~~this is how you do it~~

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this is how I do it

wanton pendant
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Finally.

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Ok, pretend that didn't happen.

fierce pagoda
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work

wanton pendant
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Just like when you kill Solaris, full circle.

fierce pagoda
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i just double tap and make discord do it for me

wanton pendant
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A bit on the nose naming them 'Ignither'.

fierce pagoda
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name him Dante, cuz Dante's inferno and Red cuz dante from devil may cry

balmy glacier
icy veldt
# balmy glacier Peano axiom aside, now transcend this proof to higher levels of mathematics

N̴i̷n̴e̶ ̷l̶o̷c̸k̴s̷
̸N̸i̸n̶e̷ ̴k̵e̶y̴s̴
̵N̴i̷n̶e̷ ̷e̸y̴e̷s̴ ̵t̷h̵a̶t̵ ̷d̸o̶ ̴n̴o̸t̵ ̴s̸e̵e̴
̴
̷N̷i̸n̵e̶ ̸n̴u̵m̸b̴e̸r̴s̷
̴N̴i̸n̷e̶ ̶w̵o̶r̸d̸s̴
̸N̶i̷n̴e̷ ̶c̷r̴i̸e̵s̸ ̷t̸h̵a̸t̷ ̶g̴o̶ ̵u̴n̷h̶e̸a̶r̶d̷
̸
̷N̴i̷n̵e̴ ̶w̵i̶n̸g̶s̴
̵N̸i̷n̶e̵ ̶b̷e̶a̸k̷s̴
̸N̵i̸n̸e̶ ̸s̸t̸o̶n̷e̷s̸ ̶t̶h̶a̸t̷ ̷d̶o̵ ̵n̷o̵t̵ ̷s̵p̷e̵a̸k̸

wanton pendant
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Candy Cadet?

tropic oak
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its lwk hard to come up with a dragon name that rolls off the tongue well and doesnt sound cringe naenae baby sounding

icy veldt
tropic oak
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that could be good

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someone get stip in the chat..........

pliant ruin
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Aelidar is actually a cool name

tropic oak
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i fuck with Aelidar

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comes off the tongue real nice and is easy to say

pliant ruin
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@cosmic zenith clueless ...

icy veldt
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Proto-Germanic is a veritable gold-mine of fantasy naming

balmy glacier
pliant ruin
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It has some neat inspiration on actual words related to fire, comes off the tongue well and just sounds nice

cosmic zenith
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Flame Dragon, I assume?

tropic oak
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yeah!

pliant ruin
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mhm

cosmic zenith
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Looks good, though it is a bit soft in pronounciation....

icy veldt
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Could swap out the D for a T or TH, or the final R for a Z or S

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The great thing about fantasy naming is that I don't need to strictly follow historical sound-change rules when distorting words from ancient languages

cosmic zenith
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Zaelithar, perhaps?

tropic oak
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i fuck with that too

icy veldt
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Even better 😎

cosmic zenith
tropic oak
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excellent news

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he haveth been named .

wanton pendant
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I mean Zaelithar does sound pretty cool. Then again, a Flame Dragon shouldn't be 'cool'.

tropic oak
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flame dragon? aren't they all? clueless

split mortar
tropic oak
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true

cosmic zenith
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He's meant to be hot....

icy veldt
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Cool-boring is mostly orthogonal to good-evil

tropic oak
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gloomborf

icy veldt
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Frobmoolg

tropic oak
cosmic zenith
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Not yet, but I'm not writing Frost Dragon so

tropic oak
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ah, okay

wanton pendant
split mortar
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Did not catch that joke

tropic oak
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LOL

odd magnet
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what's the whole deal with bumblebirb being changed to dragonfolly

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or replaced idk

real glen
icy veldt
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I thought that flying wing behind the birb was a gelled-up hairdo

wanton pendant
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Bumblebirb was a very unserious name and didn't fit the lore at he time.

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Granted, the reason for the new name is retconned, so now it's just called that because it's called that I guess.

real glen
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melon gun was prov mage before she turn into god

light linden
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@cosmic zenithcan I ask a question?

stoic gulch
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Don’t do it

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Don’t you do it

cosmic zenith
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Sure

stoic gulch
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It’s too late for you

light linden
stoic gulch
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Oh damn

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An actual question

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Fine then I’ll do it myself

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What’s infected armor plating made out of

cosmic zenith
light linden
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ok ty

light linden
stoic gulch
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Oh damn fr

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Well I didn’t hear

light linden
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yes

fierce pagoda
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what was the answer

stoic gulch
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So I’d actually like the answer

robust osprey
light linden
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this

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wait crap

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I left ping on

wanton pendant
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But the only vampires we see are the horror movie reference ones.

light linden
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sorry ozzatron

stoic gulch
light linden
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probably

stoic gulch
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Banned for minor inconvenience

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Or depends

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But eh

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Sentenced to 30 days in cmt gif

fierce pagoda
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Banned for mining

light linden
fierce pagoda
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waow it was kinda normal

green bay
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Are the stained brutal calamity lyrics canon?

balmy glacier
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of course they are

robust osprey
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I think not

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or maybe they are

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idk

balmy glacier
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rotjd are 100 percent canon to lore

robust osprey
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I know

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but this isnt about rotjd

tropic oak
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rotjd is 100% canon to me 💔

real glen
light linden
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crap I brought ozzatron here

tropic oak
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but as far as im aware

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sbc is like

royal plinth
light linden
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sorry about the ping dude

tropic oak
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REALLY

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stretched

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to be canon

green bay
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Alr

light linden
robust osprey
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thunder

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prepare thyself

tropic oak
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rotjd is like. at least 90% of it can be taken as like "yeah that makes sense"

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but the 10% doesnt

royal plinth
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Dude what can I even do

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I'm not even a moderator

light linden
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make what you said about infected armor plating non canon

split mortar
robust osprey
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punch thunder really hard through the screen

deft vessel
royal plinth
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Yeah the only thing wrong there is that modern fighter jets are actually primarily carbon fiber

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Which is also conveniently dark grey or black

light linden
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actually ozzatron I do wanna ask something that I'm not sure if the lore devs can answer

royal plinth
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Close enough

light linden
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if you don't mind

mighty zenith
light linden
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oh dear

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oh I never noticed that the names of moderators glow now

balmy glacier
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they dont?

light linden
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whenever I hover over them they do

split mortar
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The mod role has the gradiant feature but its gradiant is just the same colour so it looks like a normal role iirc

balmy glacier
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yeah they do glow👍

tropic oak
mighty zenith
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no

robust osprey
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explode then

balmy glacier
tropic oak
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kill the mimic

deft vessel
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Still can’t belive that the Terrarians lore is up to Melon Gun

balmy glacier
robust osprey
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wait

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dont kill him

royal plinth
robust osprey
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he needs to tell us his secret

royal plinth
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I am now sitting here waiting for the question

robust osprey
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the secret of the mimic

royal plinth
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At present nothing is being accomplished

light linden
mighty zenith
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thats

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fucked up

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sorry to hear that

balmy glacier
robust osprey
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thats really fucked up

light linden
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but uh

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What makes a dev get a dev item?

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is it just time on the dev team?

royal plinth
light linden
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it isn't my parents

royal plinth
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oh, sorry to assume then

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anyway that's off topic let me answer your question

royal plinth
# light linden What makes a dev get a dev item?

Asking, really. We don't have any requirements on amount of time spent on the team. Many devs who have been around for an extremely long time still don't have an item because they either don't want one or just never asked.

light linden
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oh ok

wanton pendant
tropic oak
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ozzatron how many years until you move to mars

light linden
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thanks for the answer

royal plinth
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It has nothing to do with seniority, nor is it a privilege or a permission thing. It just kinda happens when people feel like it

wanton pendant
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Oh, also, hello John Calamity.

royal plinth
tropic oak
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with that attitude, perhaps

light linden
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still wonder why draedon has nothing to say about the martians

wanton pendant
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Draedon is clearly racist towards martians.

balmy glacier
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if mars is off the picture, then saturn will do!(it's actually far worse to live there)

light linden
mighty zenith
#

just move to unicron

balmy glacier
#

0 dollars a year?🤔

#

yeah sure

wanton pendant
light linden
#

I would stop there

#

I'm like 90% sure I've heard that to describe an irl group of people

balmy glacier
tropic oak
wanton pendant
#

Take it up with Pokémon, they named one of 'em Beheeyem.

tropic oak
#

Mining devices and scouts for a civilization from a long lost world. They now seek whatever resources are left on other nearby planets, and perhaps even this world as a potential replacement for their ruined home.

#

perhaps he has nothing to say because there is nothing to say

tropic oak
#

or it was destroyed by an inward our outward force

royal plinth
light linden
#

regardless I feel like he'd be at least vaguely interested in their tech

#

since he is looking towards space travel

tropic oak
#

i would have no idea

wanton pendant
#

He probably thinks he can do better.

light linden
#

I mean he likely can

#

but still

wanton pendant
#

But the real reason is... The writers haven't made an entry for that yet.

split mortar
tropic oak
#

well they did kind of fuck up our planet

#

considering it was moonlord whos to say they didnt fuck up other ones tbh

#

but im assuming we wont know for some time either way

#

one can only imagine

wanton pendant
#

I don't know, maybe Fovos took them out before moving to Terraria or something.

royal plinth
wanton pendant
#

They may not have had dragons to defend themselves.

tropic oak
#

yeah i wouldnt think so

#

unless theres suddenly a space dragon clueless

wanton pendant
#

Hell yeah.

tropic oak
#

but i suppose it would make sense, given, again, the lore item does say their homeworld was destroyed

#

but we also dont know if theres anybody else out there

#

it could've been to planetary or civil war or something similar of that nature

mighty zenith
#

couldve been fovos and it just took them that long to find terraria

#

p

tropic oak
#

i do agree

wanton pendant
#

It could be a more 'they doomed themselves' kinda deal, but if it was something else, we do know one world ending thing with a penchant for galactic destruction...

split mortar
tropic oak
#

i find it most consistent considering fovos is a hungry hungry hippo

royal plinth
#

Martians are stereotypical science fiction. So there's always the much simpler explanation of "they nuked themselves"

split mortar
#

True but thats lame

wanton pendant
#

They nuked themselves to spite Fovos.

tropic oak
#

truth

tropic oak
#

fovos happened upon their planet and they knew and was like "yeah we'll do it ourselves" HDfailure

wanton pendant
#

That's the insane (hilarious) option.

#

So he can't eat them first.

deft vessel
wanton pendant
#

If they're all dead.

tropic oak
#

it also quotes in one of their lore items that their planet was "ruined", as well which makes me support that an inward or outside force completely fucked them over

#

poor little guys

mighty zenith
#

tbf that COULD also come from like a civil war

tropic oak
#

correct, i had said that earlier

mighty zenith
#

sorry i cant read

tropic oak
#

youre all good king

wanton pendant
#

The curse of the tale down under strikes again.

icy veldt
fleet wedge
#

"Warcrimeinator 3000" CalWheeze

#

"What are we going to fight the sun?"

crisp wraith
#

Sorry was scrolling up to see your response, but yeah, im up for suggestions or ideas or help dracJam

fleet wedge
#

Honestly I would ask why would people (in game) consider Terrarian better than Yharim, considering we're more or less finishing his mission/cleaning up where his crusade left off, but I already know what's going to be the answer so I won't clueless ultimatesmug

#

insert that one secret Diablo level

pliant ruin
#

Even if you kill literally every single boss and enemy in the game you're not like genociding thousands of innocents

#

You are fighting the bad guys

#

This is like saying mario is evil because he stomp a da koopa

random mulch
#

terrarian doesn't have shock troopers who torch innocent people

wanton pendant
#

I mean, one of the few things implied to be 'canon' about the Terrarian is that you're not gonna become Yharim 2, otherwise Calamitas wouldn't let you win, even if it killed her.

random mulch
#

i should draw different yharmy soldiers...

robust osprey
#

the only humans you kill are werewolves and maybe npcs

#

and cultists

#

but those are insane

wanton pendant
#

The Guide. Actually, we don't have Calamity Guide lore except he's from Azafure I guess. It'd be really funny if he was the poor guy keeping WoF at bay and sacrificing him is what finally unleashed it.

#

Calamitas Clone is human. Driven mad, but still human.

#

Are dragons people?

robust osprey
#

same case as cultist

#

they are animals

wanton pendant
#

Are gods people?

#

Wow, Yharim, ok.

#

Pirates.

#

Pirates are people.

robust osprey
#

pirates attacked first.

#

okay I get it I forgor some people

wanton pendant
#

Thrasher Stacking

#

Do we count Goblins as people?

robust osprey
#

that will be scrapped

wanton pendant
#

Or Lihazhard.

robust osprey
robust osprey
#

yeha I'd count them as ppl

robust osprey
wanton pendant
#

Are Martians people?

robust osprey
#

no they are martians

wanton pendant
#

All I'm seeing is that we do in fact kill a lot of people.

robust osprey
#

barely thousands

split mortar
robust osprey
#

we aint getting close to yharim's numbers

wanton pendant
#

And we got the other half.

#

At this rate, who is everyone else gonna kill?

split mortar
#

Theres a difference between couple thousand or tens of thousands of mostly animals to over a billion fucking people

wanton pendant
#

It was all for the crusade, collateral damage.

#

Why doesn't Yharim do pacifists? Is he genocider? Is he Chara?

split mortar
#

Chara made him do it

wanton pendant
#

That's what I'm saying!

pliant ruin
#

We do kill alot of people but none of them are unprovoked

#

Goblins that raid us and try killing us and our townsfolk, Pirates that do the same, Martians that do the same... God there's alot of people trying to kill us

mighty zenith
#

guys.... guys we kill zombies.... are we the baddies

#

how could the terrarian murder all those bunnies

#

he's so evil

wanton pendant
#

Guide kinda consented, I guess.

robust osprey
#

my terrarian kills everything but bnuuys

icy veldt
faint totem
high lynx
wanton pendant
#

We all know, you cannot be cruel to animals if you have your vegan literature.

#

Is there a lore reason for this?

split mortar
#

Chara

wanton pendant
#

YOOOO!

#

Why didn't Chara keep their vegan literature on hand. Are they stupid?

sinful adder
wanton pendant
#

What, are pirates not people anymore?

sinful adder
#

Ok you know what, fair

#

The Terrarian in a normal playthrough will kill like maybe...

#

400 people who attacked them first, and a few thousand non sapient monsters

#

(I'm assuming one goblin army and one pirate invasion)

wanton pendant
#

Werewolves are people.

#

Dracula's arguably a guy.

#

Frankenstein is just misunderstood.

sinful adder
#

We don't actually know if werewolves are people in calamity

#

And solar eclipse enemies aren't canon

#

If they were canon, they'd be magically conjured monsters from your fears and not quite real

wanton pendant
#

You know the Were in Werewolf means man.

#

And I'm sure someone here said vampires are real, they just don't show up (sans Dracula)

hoary cape
#

Yah, but it's calamity it doesn't have to be accurate

#

Plus I am pretty sure being attacked by a werewolf and having to fight it would be self defense

crimson junco
#

pirates aren't people?

wanton pendant
#

Yarr, this be a hate crime.

crimson junco
#

that's messed up

hoary cape
#

The captain clearly ain't he turns into a ghost upon death and no one else does

wanton pendant
#

You mean shimmered?

hoary cape
#

No he literally turns into a ghost when you kill him

#

The enemy

wanton pendant
#

Oh... are you saying only pirate captains have souls?

#

Does this mean the Dragons were pirates?

hoary cape
#

Obviously

wanton pendant
#

Finally the lore is getting interesting.

tropic oak
pliant ruin
#

youre welcome john vcmm

hoary cape
#

Cheese I am sorry, but I consumed cheese on my lunch today

pliant ruin
#

dies

distant smelt
#

Can the terrarian beat raditz(shitpost)

cloud ibex
#

i have no idea who that is but probably not no

wanton pendant
#

I can, however.

distant smelt
#

Woag

pliant ruin
#

idk how strong raditz is given i dont remember what he does but im gonna go a hunch and say no because something something dragon ball powerscaling wacky something something

#

hbe like shows up for one episode and dies man i forgor

hoary cape
calm patio
#

garfield

nimble mantle
#

does DoG have an endless stomach?

light linden
#

I feel like I'm an outlier

pliant ruin
nimble mantle
#

Then I wonder how he even digests his food

cloud ibex
#

he doesn't

gritty kraken
tropic oak
pliant ruin
nimble mantle
#

Damn

pliant ruin
#

He's like fucked up other dimension creature i have no idea how that's guy biology works

#

Does it even work?

#

Who knows at this point

nimble mantle
#

4 answers at the same time

nimble mantle
tropic oak
#

we also don’t know where it goes

pliant ruin
#

it goes to me

tropic oak
#

it just goes somewhere

pliant ruin
#

i eat it

#

sorry guys

dusk laurel
#

of course

pliant ruin
#

yknow how it is girls gotta eat

dusk laurel
#

gloomborf truther

#

gluttony dragon

pliant ruin
#

😔

tropic oak
#

we outta essence (odd godly essence shaped throat)

nimble mantle
#

Stop eating cosmilites

tropic oak
#

dog is a hungry hungry hippo

dusk laurel
#

the very hungry caterpillar

#

😊

tropic oak
#

true

nimble mantle
#

The universally famished purple snake

tropic oak
#

and the dog walked up to the essence stand and said to the man running the stand

pliant ruin
#

why the long face

full comet
#

So I know this sounds like a weird thing to say

But like, I have thought about making a fanfic/fan comic or whatever

tropic oak
#

don’t we all

full comet
#

And I was wondering if people would be mad if I kinda made my own version of calamity lore?

Like based on the official but not exactly

pliant ruin
#

weird thing to say
look inside

young socket
pliant ruin
#

have fun

tropic oak
nimble mantle
full comet
young socket
#

thats fine

nimble mantle
full comet
#

Like I will explicitly say it also

nimble mantle
#

For example

pliant ruin
#

There's nothing wrong with that and you shouldn't need permission to do it, as i said, have fun

nimble mantle
#

(random name)!Terraria

#

Or something like that

crisp wraith
cosmic zenith
#

Even I, as a dev, write fanfics
And though I naturally gravitate towards using the exact lore as the mod, I build upon it in ways that I wouldn't within the mod's lore

tropic oak
#

you wanna be a real au’re we gotta do Calamity!(Name)

nimble mantle
#

Are exo mechs OSHA compliant?

light linden
#

Better question

#

Would OSHA try to mess with Draedon?

#

He doesn't have any workers

real silo
#

fym he doesn't have any workers

crimson junco
#

U a Draedon's worker

real silo
#

The labs talk about lab safety for organics or some shit

#

There's no reason for him to put those if he doesn't have any workers

light linden
#

Guess where he isn't anymore

real silo
nimble mantle
#

undertale fans and calamity fans

#

Reunited

real silo
#

it'd be like colonel sanders not visiting a kfc in fuckin namibia or something so all the namibian kfc workers suddenly get fired

#

A few people have said this

#

Are you perhaps confusing me with ataraxia

crimson junco
#

Ataraxia

real silo
#

I don't stray too far from calamity usually

#

Except for like

#

Cosmoteer

cosmic zenith
alpine jetty
#

LMAO

real silo
#

Dragon of pride soon

nimble mantle
cosmic zenith
#

I love this gif so much

light linden
#

Hi stip

cosmic zenith
#

Matpat's smile just vanishing is the shit

#

Hi!

light linden
#

Question, do you have a dev item?

cosmic zenith
#

Not yet

light linden
#

: (

cosmic zenith
#

But I have planned a weapon and a dev set

light linden
#

Can I ask what class the weapon is?

cosmic zenith
#

Mage

nimble mantle
#

If one animal is infected with astral infection and turns out the infected astral flesh is edible

light linden
nimble mantle
#

Would you eat it?

calm patio
#

ok can i make spells

cosmic zenith
calm patio
#

and do war

nimble mantle
light linden
#

No I just want more ranger weapons

cosmic zenith
#

Yeah I'm not the person for that

#

Ask CIT BanditHueh

light linden
#

Preferably an end game bow that doesn't override ammo

nimble mantle
#

Where to put ideas anyway?

light linden
#

Can you tell I have an issue with end game ranger?

#

Ngl speaking of dev items

#

Every time I hit the end game I can't remember to activate angelic alliance when playing summoner

cosmic zenith
#

Ngl I don't really see the appeal in Shadowspec tier

#

It's just kinda lame, not being able to face a proper boss in regular progression without the item being overpowered

#

My weapon will be post-Yharon, mostly for thematic reasons but it's just great to be able to use it against Calamitas, Exos and eventually Yharim

real silo
#

True

#

I've been thinking about where I'd place my oc's weapons if they were to be made and put in the mod

#

The only tier I don't want is shadowspec

fleet wedge
wanton pendant
#

You make me want to cry. I think that's a horrible thing to do. However, I respect YOUR opinion.

fleet wedge
wanton pendant
wanton pendant
#

Is there a lore reason you're scamming?

split mortar
#

Chara did it

wanton pendant
#

So true.

nimble mantle
#

But the critter genociding is always accidental

wanton pendant
#

You don't just accidentally commit bunny genocide! What is Calamitas gonna eat in her cave?

nimble mantle
#

Veganism

#

Or just

#

Eat water

nimble mantle
#

Also, gels.

wanton pendant
#

Can't be a good diet for the poor woman.

icy veldt
#

Part of the reason for her being short could be malnourishment 😔

#

Me when the Terrarian takes Calamitas to a Costco food court and gets her a hot dog

long bloom
#

she's average height bruh

icy veldt
#

Well yeah

long bloom
#

definitionally not short

icy veldt
#

Shorter than the Terrarian, I meant

long bloom
#

ture

wanton pendant
#

I don't have a frame of reference, 5'4" isn't short?

icy veldt
#

Also, she's average height for IRL. Evidently, given that every town NPC is taller than she is, average height in Terraria is probably different

wanton pendant
#

I don't speak in freedom units.

icy veldt
#

I'm going to cook you and eat you

wanton pendant
#

I'm inedible.

long bloom
#

1.6 meters

#

is 5'4"

wanton pendant
#

I'm 6 freedom loving feetometers, if that helps.

icy veldt
#

Should've used light-nanoseconds (1 lns = 29.9792458 cm) instead, smh

wanton pendant
#

Sorry, I'm 6.100220172984 light-nanoseconds.

nimble mantle
#

McDonalds?

wanton pendant
#

All converted to McYharim's.

nimble mantle
#

Does McYharim's sell ungodly nuggets?

wanton pendant
#

There was a whole controversy about the nuggets being... divine.

nimble mantle
#

Oh damn

#

Is that why it's gone?

wanton pendant
#

In the early days of the crusade, he needed to find a way to dispose of godly remains...

real silo
#

she's me height

wanton pendant
#

Short.

real silo
#

It's ok I like tall women

long bloom
#

based

mighty zenith
#

so true oomphie

real silo
#

Can't help making short characters though

#

Well except for #her

wanton pendant
#

Who is her?

real silo
#

1.70 m lady who's the main character of my story

#

The one in my pfp

wanton pendant
#

Short.

real silo
#

nuh uh

#

actually forgor if she was 1.7 or 1.75

#

Besides she's only short by dutch people standards

wanton pendant
#

That's unfair, the Dutch are cheating by being below sea level, so they are taller to compensate.

real silo
#

the tallest woman I know is 1.70 and she's a head taller than most other women

#

dudes average at around 1.65 in my experience

#

most of the dudes I know don't go above 1.75

wanton pendant
#

Yeah that makes sense.

random mulch
#

ig i'm tall by international standard but over here i'm kinda just a bit above average

wanton pendant
#

Let me guess, Nederland?

random mulch
#

wrong, belgium (but i live in flanders so close enough i guess)

wanton pendant
#

Damn it.

random mulch
#

i'm at least 184 cm tall (haven't been measured in a hot second)

mighty zenith
#

yea the average height of men here is like 4 inches taller than international

wanton pendant
#

The Belgium Battalion has arrived...

mighty zenith
#

poland actually

wanton pendant
#

Damn it.

random mulch
#

garbo

wanton pendant
#

Fine, the winged whatevers.

random mulch
#

you need to make aureus garbo

mighty zenith
#

whar

random mulch
#

join us on wplace garbo

mighty zenith
#

o

#

i wanted to but idk

#

im lazy

real silo
#

Harbor you need play your roles

#

grabro

#

garn

random mulch
#

gabbro

mighty zenith
#

kill providence

#

draw my characters

wanton pendant
#

Play my games.

real silo
#

nobody draws MY characters smh

#

I need unlimited cama runes

random mulch
#

yharim slander when

mighty zenith
#

calamirune

real silo
#

Is it really slander if it's #truth

random mulch
#

slander is slander

wanton pendant
#

The goal is to get good at drawing so I can draw Calamitas being homeless. Glory to the Godseeker's empire.

random mulch
#

the regime knows best

split mortar
#

Lore chat becoming rp chat yet again

random mulch
#

i should make yharpaganda posters

#

give me ideas

real silo
#

Two homeless azafurians in roleplay it's crazy

wanton pendant
#

Like this.

mighty zenith
wanton pendant
balmy glacier
#

okay pingas sir

mighty zenith
#

wrong one 💔

random mulch
wanton pendant
#

That's what he told a certain 13 year old girl.

faint totem
# random mulch

That’s just the motto of most resistance fighters in movies. Yes, the space regime is evil, but you’re terrorists. How many innocent people died from your bombing? I know you hit the church in that one mission

tropic oak
#

if you guys could give signus a title that isnt envoy of the devourer what would it be now…….

faint totem
#

Shit his pants

split mortar
#

Probably something relating to the bargainings the guy does and their otherworldly nature from the distortion

Not able to come up with a title rn but those are some stuff of signus i think should be payed attention to when forming a title

mighty zenith
#

for no reason apart from it sounding cool

tropic oak
#

true.

wanton pendant
#

Signus, Merchant of Death.

fleet wedge
pliant ruin
#

A bit boring though . Hm

fleet wedge
pliant ruin
#

But he has like

#

literally nothing to do with DoG

#

he'd probably murder that guy if he could

#

competition and all

tropic oak
#

it would fit neither but signus

pliant ruin
#

storm weaver be like MY STOMACH IS SO FULL OF

WYVERNS YUM

tropic oak
#

stormweaver after fucking up the entire upper atmosphere’s ecosystem

split mortar
tropic oak
#

you go little buddy!

visual kiln
#

hello chat

wanton pendant
#

Hello.

visual kiln
#

what lore should we talk about today

pliant ruin
#

Pokeverse i mean this respectfully but you seem to interact with this chat alot but i often get the impression you don't really have much of a understanding of even the basics of the lore, it'd probably be better for you if you wish to participate if you could atleast grap those general concepts, theres a doc in pins that'd likely help you

#

ahbout how old duke can drop some bars

tropic oak
#

and maybe actually discuss presently in chat over replying to things ranging from hours to months ago

split mortar
pliant ruin
#

my name is old duke and i will prove that your rhymes are a fluke

pliant ruin
#

old duke and permafrost are the two characters that'd drop the sickest bars really

tropic oak
#

hello aza user

pliant ruin
#

wow ok azzy didnt say hello to me smh

tropic oak
#

LOLLL

split mortar
#

Cheese irrelevant

pliant ruin
#

not like we've been talking in dms all this time up until she joined the chat nooo ofc not

tropic oak
#

the devil

visual kiln
#

hmph

pliant ruin
#

WOW OK

#

i cry

visual kiln
#

pouts

pliant ruin
#

waaa

#

jokes aside though i do like The Dealmaker and i think short and concise titles can be better than long ones sometimes but it also feels kind of Bland so i'm not sure

tropic oak
#

ok jevil

visual kiln
#

signus, dastardly distortion devil

pliant ruin
#

wehat do youmean

#

what does that mean

visual kiln
split mortar
# visual kiln the devil

Signus does have quite a bunch of similarities to the idea of a “deal with the devil” iirc

tropic oak
#

(when you beat jevil in deltarune, you get a weapon called The Dealmaker)

visual kiln
#

mhm

pliant ruin
#

OHHH RIGHT

#

wait

#

isnt it spamton

visual kiln
#

dastardly dealmaking devil

tropic oak
#

that or its spamton

pliant ruin
#

spamton gives you the dealmaker right

tropic oak
#

one of the two

#

i dont care to remeber

pliant ruin
#

pensive

tropic oak
#

in my defense chapter 2 came out years ago

split mortar
#

Jevil gives to devilsknife and jevil tail or something

tropic oak
#

yeahhhh my fault

split mortar
#

Spamton puppet scarf and dealmaker

pliant ruin
visual kiln
#

probably is

tropic oak
#

herald of distortion sounds mighty fine to me

visual kiln
#

but devil would be cool to have in the title

pliant ruin
#

I do like Herald of Distortion i mean it makes sense

visual kiln
#

maybe

visual kiln
#

dog is a better herald than signus imo

tropic oak
#

i wouldnt think so

wanton pendant
#

I liked Merchant of Death.

visual kiln
#

and dealmaker tells u signus’s deal

pliant ruin
#

Tbh i'm not sure Devourer isn't really about Bringing a Message he's about like actively doing things

#

Signus has a much more passive role

tropic oak
#

voidseeker clueless

fleet wedge
visual kiln
tropic oak
#

nobody will get that until far from now

pliant ruin
#

Signus, Transcendental Fiend

visual kiln
#

the dealmaker is peak

#

imo

pliant ruin
#

transcendental because like you know Distortion. Other World. Bla bla

split mortar
visual kiln
#

i mean its kinda obvious

pliant ruin
#

the truth is that noxus and signus both fall onto one category which is known as ||glupshittos||

wanton pendant
#

Signus, Scourge from Beyond.

dusk laurel
split mortar
dusk laurel
visual kiln
#

sigus

pliant ruin
#

signus is the coolest of the distortion guys btw don't @ me

visual kiln
#

no thats me

pliant ruin
#

"ohhh but devourer is canonically like physically stronger and hes huge and you fight him later!"
ok but counterargument

wanton pendant
#

Treacherous Wraith, Signus.

pliant ruin
#

the devourer is a bum

#

signus actually has aura

dusk laurel
#

signus literally aurafarms

split mortar
#

The devourer has call of duty 12 year old energy

wanton pendant
#

Malicious Aura, Signus.

pliant ruin
#

Farmer of Aura, Signus

pliant ruin
#

the only acceptable alternative is storm weaver

balmy glacier
#

It’s ceaseless of course

visual kiln
#

what if signus doesn’t have a title

tropic oak
pliant ruin
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ceaseless ain't even a character thats just a object man

wanton pendant
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John Signus.

pliant ruin
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😭

balmy glacier
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signus deez nuts

wanton pendant
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Abhorrent Fiend, Signus.

tropic oak
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giant lying snake vs auramaxxer assassinpilled humanoid

visual kiln
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signus nut

pliant ruin
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i will not tolerate anyone saying that Devourer is cooler than Signus

balmy glacier
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signuts!

pliant ruin
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the only opinion i will actually Disagree but Accept is that Storm Weaver is cooler which okay i can tolerate that

wanton pendant
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Signus, the Blade from another world.

dusk laurel
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devourer is the biggest destroyer fan lets be real

pliant ruin
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i can see the vision you know

visual kiln
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ceaseless is cooler

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?

split mortar
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Ceaseless aint a character they disqualified

pliant ruin
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its not even a character how you can rank it as one

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thats like just a thing

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its a object

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its not even alive its just like

wanton pendant
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Signus, Infernal Assassin.

pliant ruin
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its like a window

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a chair

split mortar
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Portal