#lore-discussion

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split mortar
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Wait no its @pliant ruin

full comet
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Bob

balmy glacier
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not sure which though

pliant ruin
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WHAT

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ping

full comet
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North Korea

icy veldt
balmy glacier
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End of the world it is

icy veldt
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Wait no that's Providence, not Calamitas

full comet
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Also, might as well ask, what bosses aren't evil in Calamity.

I can definitely say the Desert Scourge, Crabulon, Slime God, and the Sea Serpent aren't evil

split mortar
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Cheese is literally calamitas

full comet
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I would classify the plague bee as evil due to being a literal bioweapon

long bloom
icy veldt
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Yeah, he's a bit slimy tbh

full comet
icy veldt
full comet
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Or at least not killing people indiscriminately

limpid saddle
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so y'know

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pretty mindless evil

full comet
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But yeah we got the serpents as a definite.

Crabulon is a dead corpse possessed by mushrooms. It is neither evil or good. Just there

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What else

split mortar
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Draedon is amoral so neither good or evil just science

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Scal isnt evil nowadays imo

icy veldt
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Me omw to adapt the nanoplague to people-sized forms and inject it into everyone

balmy glacier
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primordial wyrm is neutral

split mortar
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PW is trying to keep anything primordial light away from the terminus

frozen shard
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why is slime god fought before queen slime

balmy glacier
frozen shard
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slime god also has a banger soundtrack

long bloom
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not confirmed

balmy glacier
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Must be then.

frozen shard
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hmm

limpid saddle
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yeah its possible

split mortar
long bloom
limpid saddle
frozen shard
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i just bin everything except treasure bags

split mortar
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Most likely reason irl
Fabsol stopped the devs from moving stuff around causing that

limpid saddle
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bro

split mortar
long bloom
frozen shard
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well

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i did keep some in my magic storage

long bloom
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god it's hopeless

split mortar
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Unreliable ones but often hold parts of truth

limpid saddle
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Calamity fans really are illiterate jesus christ

frozen shard
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how is that illiterate

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i can read

long bloom
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literally throwing away the lore text

icy veldt
frozen shard
limpid saddle
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read the lore items

frozen shard
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yeah, but that doesnt mean im illiterate

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use the word properly

dusk laurel
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yeah all you see is calclone smh my head

limpid saddle
icy veldt
mighty zenith
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me when i ask about lore after not reading lore

dusk laurel
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goldshi

full comet
icy veldt
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I have no perms and I must embed

frozen shard
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so thats why i ask

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and then you all get mad i ask

limpid saddle
frozen shard
limpid saddle
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theres a difference between struggling to comprehend writing & ignoring the writing

frozen shard
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i also tried to read some of this

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that lore document

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its difficult for me

frozen ruin
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put all that on top of the character interactions and Yharim's lore entries and publish it as a book

jaunty wraith
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Guys I have a theory

long bloom
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no

icy veldt
balmy glacier
icy veldt
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๐Ÿ˜”

jaunty wraith
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The roaring knight vs your average no hit infernum player

faint totem
jaunty wraith
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I mean people have no hit his boss fight already

long bloom
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"his" ManaRose

faint totem
jaunty wraith
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Nobody even knows who or what the roaring knight is, as far as im concerned all pronouns are on the table

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(Though wouldnt they make most scence for this?)

faint totem
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I prefer it

jaunty wraith
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Thats fair

pliant ruin
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ill be honest i just call the knight she because its very obviously dess

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at worst it's carol

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๐Ÿ˜ญ

manic coral
pliant ruin
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and both of htem are women

manic coral
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and both are women

jaunty wraith
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I've heard so many theories, I dont even think of it

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Gaster, papyrus for some reason

manic coral
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Papyrus is a joke

jaunty wraith
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For me it's probably dess

manic coral
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It's very clearly dess

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It literlaly has antlers, uses snowflake attacks

pliant ruin
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gg eas

manic coral
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and the knight's weapon looks like a whiffle bat

jaunty wraith
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The only other one it could be is carol

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But that feels too obvious

pliant ruin
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Does ravager count as evil

manic coral
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Which unless you believe there's a secret tunnel under the church to carol's house, or that carol can teleport, fundemntally doesn't work

pliant ruin
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God of Sacrifices was a good guy but he's like a murder demon with basically no sapience now

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so uhh yeah id say he counts hes evil yep

calm patio
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smh

jaunty wraith
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No its ness

manic coral
jaunty wraith
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Wait... dess is one letter off from ness, and as we all know ness is sans who is also Steven universe

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Plus the knight is incredibly powerful... this means the true identity of the knight is...

Mr rogers in a bloodstained sweater

manic coral
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That's how I feel

split mortar
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Its just fucking dess

jaunty wraith
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What if the knight just never gets revealed

dusk laurel
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rudy is OBVIOUSLY the knight ๐Ÿ™„

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smh smh

manic coral
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Given. Clearly it's Dess that got REALLY fucked up somehow. But that's more than question rather than "who is the knight"

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it's moreso

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"WHY is the knight?"

jaunty wraith
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Maybe the real roaring knight is the friends we made along the way

jaunty wraith
pliant ruin
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Desert Scourge - Animalistic
Crabulon - Animalistic
Dragonfolly - Animalistic
Calamitas Clone - Fuck if i know lol calclone rework tmr
Cryogen - Not Sentient
Aquatic Scourge - Animalistic
Brimstone Elemental - Definitely extremely destructive, dunno if she's sentient but if she is probably count as a evil
Slime God - Morally Dubious but definitely not a Good Guy
AnaLevi - Similar boat as Brimmy
Aureus - Not Sentient
PBG - Incredibly dangerous and destructive, dunno if itd call it evil given it's barely even sentient or alive atp and is just forced to do things through cybernetics
Profaned Guardians - Evil
Astrum Deus - Animalistic, usually docile but attacks you due to the infection
Evil2 - Evil
Ceaseless Void - Not Sentient
Providence - Evil
Weaver - Animalistic?
Polterghast - Indiscriminately destructive, might count as evil depending on who you ask
Ravager - Basically the same thing as Polter
Signus - Uhhhh. Possibly Evil? Maybe more of a Neutral guy?
Old Duke - Evil
Devourer - Evil
Yharon - Evil
Draedon/Exos - Depends on who you ask, i personally would say more so neutral than evil
Supreme Calamitas - Not Evil

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holy wall of text

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Didn't think it'd be that much screen space taken up

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I was bored man

manic coral
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damn yharim isn't on this list

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guess he's not evil

calm patio
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well hes not boss

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yet

dusk laurel
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yhar har har

manic coral
sinful adder
pliant ruin
manic coral
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i think gaster will show up at some point but won't nessesarily be an antagonist or even main character

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i think he is

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as the game says about the eggs

sinful adder
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Gaster has already shown up, just not in the normal game world

jaunty wraith
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Of course yharim isn't evil, hes a very misunderstood anti hero...

Yeah I only read the lore entries and take them at face value without thinking of anything deeper... how could you tell

manic coral
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Not too important, but not too unimportant, either

dusk laurel
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friend inside me prophecy

jaunty wraith
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I dont think gaster is going to be fully answered

manic coral
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Same

jaunty wraith
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Part of gasters appeal is how much unknown there is about him

manic coral
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I honestly hope he's left as still, while we get some answers

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Still kind of a mystery

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also it's really funny that the most commonly used appearence for Gaster isn't even tehcncially clear if it's what Gaster looks like or not

jaunty wraith
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The sprite everyone assumes is gaster is just called "mystery man" in the files

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We could be completely off

manic coral
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I'd be funny if it ended up being that Gaster was basiclaly hiding in plain sight this entire time somehow

jaunty wraith
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The soul is gaster confirmed /s

manic coral
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Same sorta vein of me also wnating to know if Undertale is an anagram of Deltarune, or if Deltarune is an anagram of Undertale

sinful adder
manic coral
sinful adder
manic coral
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I mean yeah but we don't know if it was always called Deltarune

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Given

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If the specific name of "Deltarune" becomes more thematically relevant

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Yeah probably Deltarune first

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Creative projects like that can have namechanges at various time sin development, even very late into it

sinful adder
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It is already relevant: it's the Change Prophecy/Writing/Story

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The prophecy of change, the prophecy which changes

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Well, we don't know that for sure

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But it sure seems like it

jaunty wraith
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What the hell did Susie see?

manic coral
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It seems like it but I don't wnna make too many assumptions

sinful adder
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Anyways: Dess is Clause and Kris is the former hero guy who becomes the dark Lord in Live a Live

manic coral
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Anywho imma go bakc to cooking

split mortar
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Doesnt the audio that plays when mysteryman vanishes is just some music sped up by like 666x times or somethinf

plucky spruce
split mortar
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We know 1 shard of gaster doesnt

strong compass
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Need help refining my lore for the terrarian

zenith geode
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they suck at naming things

glacial rampart
strong compass
worldly phoenix
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ive been playing calamity for quite a while and ive noticed the bells, i dont see much talk about them in the web so, what do they represent? the little bells that are present in like, brutal calamity and the DoG theme and of course stained brutal calamity, are they suppose to represent God-like power?

long bloom
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i think they just sound cool

manic coral
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they just sound cool

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and "god-like power" ranges from slime god to xeroc anyways so

zenith geode
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touhou soundfont tubular bells sound cool and thats pretty much it

slate kite
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im surprised yharim didnt get triggered by the death of yharon

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wasnt this the same mf that cared for him scince childhood?

long bloom
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he's still really sad but he knows yharon will be okay

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and that this was inevitable

faint totem
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Yeah heโ€™s the auric dragon of rebirth. Heโ€™ll be back. In a decade or two

slate kite
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oh thats nice

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imma spawn camp him

magic epoch
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what would you be a god of if you ascended with yharon's soul

zenith geode
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depends on how well you ascend

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rebirth if perfect

eager bluff
magic epoch
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how about like yharim then, if he didn't deny the ascension

long bloom
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god of chicken

magic epoch
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god of l-l-l-lava

tall delta
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probably something like immortality

zenith geode
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necromancy feels like a possible target

faint totem
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What was that brim remix that got made for lava chicken

spare pier
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Eternity is right there, guys

magic epoch
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lalalalava chichichichicken cal's lava chicken yeah it's all burnt as hell ooh mamacita now you're burnin it down ooh way too crispy now you're gnawing on ash ooh super spicy it's a brimstone attaaaaaack

faint totem
tall delta
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true

spare pier
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Also

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You may ask about the name change if you wish

magic epoch
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hm nah

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not like i haven't changed my name before

spare pier
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If you are knowledgeable, just read our bio

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That'll give you the answer

magic epoch
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oh sorry

spare pier
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Anyways

long bloom
wheat walrus
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Goku

spring helm
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madeline has taken over as the dominant person

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millions must perish

spare pier
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Reb is dead

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I killed her

wheat walrus
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Haha you're Mad

dusk laurel
granite kestrel
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is it true that Xeroc is โ€œNameless Deityโ€? i heard it from some people in tik tok (the calamity side) and they were talking about it

eager bluff
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no

granite kestrel
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whos the nameless deity?

eager bluff
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nameless is its own thing

granite kestrel
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so like it doesnโ€™t affect the calamity lore?

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its more like a side quest

eager bluff
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no

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its from an addon

granite kestrel
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oh

granite kestrel
eager bluff
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addons are never canon to calamity

granite kestrel
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aww man i was thinking about goozma as well

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like hes the first life in terraria, he has its cult and everything

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is there any official addons? from the dev team

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or just a part of dev team

eager bluff
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nothing official

scenic yacht
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the only official addon is calamity music

granite kestrel
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with canon lore

eager bluff
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the closest to an official addon you get is vcmm, calamity music doesnt really count as an addon considering its a cal dependency

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and even then vcmm is not official

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thats just endorsed

scenic yacht
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yeah

crimson junco
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ye you don't have to install VCMM

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people would get really mad if their vanilla musics are not allowed

sinful adder
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Even moreso than other sites

zenith geode
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or youtube when it comes to class guides

crimson junco
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๐Ÿ˜‡

real glen
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the immersive music box wiki page

balmy glacier
limpid saddle
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Ah damn missed more talking with devs time

real silo
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This guy playing a dating sim

limpid saddle
real glen
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Cal dev dating sim

faint totem
light linden
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So random thing

real glen
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How loreous

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anyways I'm making something rn
Like dragon colors i posted some day ago

light linden
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Is the reason why most in-lore people could only go as far in progression as beating the EoC is because of what gear is available to the common person?

light moth
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Hi guys
Got one question recently
Why dont Permafrost and Calamitas have any interaction between each other even when they both are Npcs?
Like, they don't even mention each other even though they were very close during the war with gods

random mulch
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because a lot of dialogue is outdated

light linden
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It's uh

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Most dialogue is outdated and both NPC happiness and Permafrost dialogue in particular are being redone

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E.g. Amidias is going to hate Calamitas

light moth
prisma wharf
light linden
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One of the devs mentioned something about him eventually forgiving her but idk if that's actually planned

prisma wharf
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Why does yharim have obsession for bees

gritty kraken
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cal redemption arc soon

mighty zenith
light linden
mighty zenith
light moth
split mortar
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The guy hates the nano plague cause it is slavery not cause its on bees

light linden
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He just hates how Draedon literally enslaved not only an animal he liked but later went onto wreck havoc upon an ecosystem

mighty zenith
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(even though that was yharim's fault but shh)

prisma wharf
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He is the jungle tyrant of course he doesn't like his place getting plagued,but i see the vision

zenith geode
faint totem
split mortar
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The guy hasnt been the jungle tyrant for like 2 years

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The guys now the Godseeker

real glen
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Seeking the gods and slays

prisma wharf
random mulch
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jungle thing is old lore

light moth
prisma wharf
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Speaking of yharim....

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We still don't know much about our character's lore if we were to fight him are we gonna be his successor?

split mortar
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The terrarians lore is up to you

real glen
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Now where is that image

split mortar
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Chat should i send the image

prisma wharf
random mulch
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the image

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send it

split mortar
mighty zenith
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the accursed image

crimson junco
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didn't this get banned?

faint totem
# split mortar

The one thing all terrarians have in common:
We suck shit at naming things

mighty zenith
prisma wharf
mighty zenith
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once in a while its fine

prisma wharf
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Infernum stuff

light linden
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Also there's the possibility of Draedon literally ruining any chance of the jungle being resettled

zenith geode
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he can stop it whenever

light linden
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Dear god my Internet is freaking out

zenith geode
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once he gets what he deems to be enough info, he'll very likely shut all the plague off

light linden
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Literally every damn time a character in a show/movie/game has made something like this the damn thing always becomes immune to the kill switch

zenith geode
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even if the killswitch failed he's definitely got other methods

split mortar
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The way to make the killswitch effective is just send the exos to vaporise pbg

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Pbg is the bypass and draedon can easily handle that

zenith geode
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some sort of lightweight exo

split mortar
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Just send thanatos to eat the fucker

light linden
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Also aren't queen bees supposed to be a cornerstone of jungle inhabitation?

zenith geode
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granted he can probably just make a new one

split mortar
zenith geode
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but thats valuable materials

light linden
zenith geode
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there's only one pbg

light linden
zenith geode
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wait

light linden
zenith geode
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what even are plaguebringers

split mortar
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I think queen bees that got infected while a larva and grew up with the infection iirc

light linden
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Queen bees that got taken over when in their larval state

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The Goliath is one that got heavily armed by Draedon himself

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I'd send the plaguebringer bestiary but idk if my wi-fi will let me

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Oh also I think the pbg's organic body is mostly decayed

pliant ruin
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I doubt Amidias will just Hate Calamitas and Not Change His Stance On Her Ever because that'd be like kind of really lame

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Not to say he needs to immediately fully forgive her or anything but like

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Don't make the Character completely Static hdflr

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I do think amidias currently is way too forgiving but i dislike both extremes of having he just fully hate her always and having him immediately forgive her

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Both just feel very shallow

light linden
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I uh

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I can't lie, I wouldn't forgive her

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She literally boiled an entire city

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And left it where even some of the people she killed can't rest

untold oracle
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Amidias is the king of sunken sea

untold oracle
pliant ruin
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I'm not talking about whether you would forgive her or not

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I'm talking about how just having amidias not change at all is boring and not narratively interesting

light linden
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I thought he was just the prince?

pliant ruin
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He dosen't need to necessarily forgive her but also just having his stance on her just be I Hate Her all the way through is just lame

manic coral
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There's a difference between understanding and forgiveness, is my take

pliant ruin
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Yep

split mortar
manic coral
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I don't think he'd forgive her. But I think he'd understand.

light linden
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Oh hi Cei

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Can you answer something for me?

pliant ruin
split mortar
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Cei whats your opinion on adding deltarune to calamity

dusk laurel
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he is literally referred to as the sea king

manic coral
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Doofus

split mortar
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Didnt recognise you for a sec vanillin

mighty zenith
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what if that was the question

split mortar
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delbarube

split mortar
light linden
split mortar
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Beating eoc is still like a 1 in a thousand thing

manic coral
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also that'd require one to be physically capable enough too

light linden
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Wasn't saying they got the gear themselves

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Even we buy some of our weapons

manic coral
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also imagine trying to aim a bow or gun or something moving at, like

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30mph

light linden
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I mean

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I've done it with a bow

split mortar
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Also average person has like 2 life crystals max

manic coral
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your average person has 0

light linden
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I could see most civilized places having someone that they could get armor from

light linden
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I should write down all my head canon stuff some day

split mortar
light linden
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Ej

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Eh*

split mortar
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Like unless a place has special resources like hellstone for azafure or aerialite for chrysadia i dont see what they can really do beyond platinum

light linden
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Likely depends on location and how developed the place is

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Could see some places having access to palladium

split mortar
light linden
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Also there's likely stuff not in the heartlands that is on other continents

pliant ruin
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I mean i'm sure there'd be people with stronger equipment but it wouldn't be common

split mortar
pliant ruin
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The reason hearthlands even have so many unique resources is by virtue of them being

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well, the heartlands

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There's so much divine essence bullshit, bullshit caused by Draedon's experiments and technology, bullshit caused by the lingering necromancy of the Incidents... You get what i mean

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Not to say i don't think there wouldnh't have been other places with their own unique resources

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But i very highly doubr any of them would have such a great concentration of different, valuable and unique materials

split mortar
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And theres like no one to take said resources

light linden
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Wc

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That does make me wonder if specifically the life fruits are unique to the heartlands

pliant ruin
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hearthlands are basically just like

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no man's land

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You can go there and get absolutely rich

split mortar
light linden
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I could see those being very valuable to trade

pliant ruin
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But also the chances of you actually being able to get rich depend on you not dying which is incredibly hard for most average johns

gritty kraken
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Imagine how big of a feat would killing boc or eater be in terraria if killing eye make you a legends

pliant ruin
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like to get sea prisms alone you have to

crimson junco
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Average johns

split mortar
light linden
split mortar
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The only time we know of that happening is draedon

pliant ruin
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travel through the underground desert while not getting mauled by any of the giant fucking bugs in there, find a way to swim down to the lower areas of the sunken sea without drowning so you'd likely need some appropriate equipment like potions or diving gear, and also while doing all of this making sure you don't get eaten by any of the several predators in the sunken sea that most people have absolutely no chance of fighting back against

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And don't forget

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after you mine the sea prism

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you have to do everything all over again to return to the surface

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With the same dangers from before

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And sea prisms are arguably one of the easiest to get of the unique materials within the hearthlands.

gritty kraken
pliant ruin
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Whether they can be grow or not (Which again, ignoring that Draedon was the only one able to do that so far, and it likely requires recreating very specific conditions that would require extensive study of the prisms and for you to have samples to begin with) isn't rly relevant here what i'm trying to get at is that this sort of rule just applies for the hearthlands as a whole

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There's so many unique, valuable resources on it that could make most people rich but also

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Your chances of survival in trying to get these resources are Really Slim unless you're a experienced survivor/warrior

thick slate
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gills potions would be so uncomfortable

jolly edge
gritty kraken
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I think theyโ€™re making the guide azafurian

split mortar
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I dont think the guide is the wall but is related to it due to possibly being one of the guys who helped make it i think?
We dunno much but will learn more in sso

gritty kraken
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Calamity guide resprite

frank imp
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hi calamity royal chat

split mortar
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๐Ÿ‘๏ธ

tough path
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Fortnite vs calamity final boss

split mortar
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Fortnite vs the fucking sun

faint totem
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The sun wins

long bloom
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unmatched power of the sun

nova wren
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I was reading Draedon's codebreaker text, who is Braelor?

cloud ibex
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Silvaโ€™s champion

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One of the guys who jumped Yharim so hard he had to crawl back to Draedon to get his armor upgraded

long bloom
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statis's boyfriend

robust osprey
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local yellow man beaten up by wokeness

long bloom
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then dog counter-jumped them and threw them in the distortion

split mortar
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Yellow man nearly dies to gays

long bloom
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statis made a deal with signus to escape and just left braelor in there

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terrible husband

robust osprey
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to be fair statis probably thought he and braelor would get out together

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but signus is a bitch

cloud ibex
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Faustian rat bastard

nova wren
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I've just realized how dense the lore
I'm reading all the Draedon lore while I'm in classes blah blah blah calamity lore better

robust osprey
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yellow man killing people > math

long bloom
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true

nova wren
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In this case psychopathology
Just a random introduction class, bro i have already talked to all these people, just let us go please

random mulch
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calamity planet is shaped like a pretzel canon

snow yarrow
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what the fuck is wrong with you

split mortar
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Whaur

balmy glacier
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rude:(

random mulch
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huh

alpine jetty
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wait so the cultists threw yharim and yharon into hells lava right

split mortar
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Not the dragon cult
Cultists of some gods and yharim was born in that cult iirc

alpine jetty
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what im confused about is like

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why would they throw yharon in

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seems like kinda a waste of an auric soul

zenith geode
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because he rejected consuming yharon's soul

alpine jetty
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no i get why they threw yharim in

zenith geode
#

wait im an idiot

alpine jetty
#

LMAO

zenith geode
#

i thought you said yharim </3

#

for yharon

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uhhhhh

#

good question

alpine jetty
#

like why would they do that

#

are they stupid

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they could just have someone else be god king

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and eat his soul

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so some random strong guy refused to eat his soul so they were like

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ok bye dragon that makes people into all powerful gods

sinful adder
#

Yharon wouldn't stay dead

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That's his whole thing

alpine jetty
#

i mean either way like

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where would the new egg appear

#

and iit just seems inconvenient

glacial rampart
#

i assume they wanted a person that they had groomed to be the god of (whatever yharim would've been) because thats kind of like

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a really powerful thing

#

and i assume they would want control of that

dusk laurel
#

the thing was that

#

yharon was already close to hatching so yharim rejecting absorbing his soul risked him just escaping

alpine jetty
#

ooooooooooooooh ok that makes sense

dusk laurel
#

and his egg always appears in the aerie so they just assumed they would go back to collect it later

alpine jetty
#

okok thank you

#

this is the kind of stuff that makes me think yharim regrets what he did

#

but apparently im being gaslit </3

glacial rampart
#

"ohhh i was such a bad boyyy ooo ignore my genocidess"

alpine jetty
#

i didnt say that lmao

#

hes obviously a bad person

#

im just asking if hes like changed now that the war is over

zenith geode
#

not really

#

iirc he regrets grooming calamitas but thats it

sage berry
#

Hey everyone, random question, did we give all the bosses that aren't human-like their names as we know them? Its confirmed the mechanical bosses' names are ours as players? Like is Slime God also named by us?

#

Or are there any others?

split mortar
#

Slime god is the god of slime hence the name

split mortar
#

Dumb as fuck name

sage berry
#

Yeah I can see thatโ€ฆ

alpine jetty
#

draedon isnt a big fan of skeletron prime

icy veldt
split mortar
#

Shout out to the name golem

zenith geode
#

at least the terrarian has a few bangers like superradiant slaughterer

split mortar
#

Yharim does not regret having over 300 million killcount

#

Skeletron was likely also named by terrarian

alpine jetty
#

guys controversial take

#

war is bad

cloud ibex
#

Brave

alpine jetty
#

thank you thank you

split mortar
#

Controversial take dont do genocide

cold owl
alpine jetty
#

yea true

zenith geode
#

what if calamity turned into a visual novel post yharim

cold owl
#

He even calls himself a fallen hero "How long has it been since I was a hero worthy of their name?"

alpine jetty
#

can we date yharim

cold owl
#

In the first lore item

icy veldt
#

Do you think Permafrost would buy into the "fallen hero" nonsense, given he was one of the first who joined up with Yharim?

zenith geode
#

no

alpine jetty
#

no shot

zenith geode
#

iirc he was the first to leave

glacial rampart
#

permafrost didnt even wanna be there in the first place ๐Ÿ˜ญ

alpine jetty
#

permafrost thought war was bad but then also hung out with the most notorious warmongerer

icy veldt
glacial rampart
#

was he?

#

i forgot

cold owl
#

I feel like he did join much sooner than 22 years though

glacial rampart
#

22 ...

alpine jetty
#

how long is the war again

dusk laurel
#

100+ years

cold owl
#

Around a century

glacial rampart
#

its like 1880 something when the game takes place

alpine jetty
#

thats crazy

#

cause calamitas was only around for like a decade

#

yet shes so important

cold owl
#

Started in 1781, present is around 1887 but there's no confirmed present.

glacial rampart
#

war is still technically going on right

icy veldt
#

Probably because all of the calendars got destroyed so no one knows what year it is

#

(jk)

plucky juniper
#

man took so long for this war that it started around the american revolutionary war and like

glacial rampart
#

Fun Fact! Cleopatra was born closer to Yharim's Crusade than she was to the construction of the pyramids!

plucky juniper
#

almost reached the spanish american war

#

its between that and the civil war

zenith geode
icy veldt
cold owl
#

Since Yharim fled to the aerie

glacial rampart
#

nobody will get this

icy veldt
cold owl
glacial rampart
#

wrong entirely

cold owl
#

Damn, no clue lmao

alpine jetty
#

do you reckon statis or braelor will just be npcs or a boss fight if theyre added

cold owl
#

There was a leak on what the Statis/Signus quest will be, but Idk if I should talk about it since it wasn't meant to be public.

cloud ibex
#

I canโ€™t really see braelor being a boss

#

Mostly cause I donโ€™t see why heโ€™d fight you

alpine jetty
#

maybe he went crazy in the distortion

#

we dont really know what goes on in there right

#

and hes been in there for years

#

and his boyfriend left him

cold owl
alpine jetty
#

also he could think youre with yharim

#

the last human other than statis he saw was yharim

cold owl
#

I do wonder though what will happen when you do meet him. Will he move to the overworld instead? I don't think he's gonna be a house npc right?

cloud ibex
#

I guess maybe as a brief miniboss duel typa thing before he goes โ€œoh my mistake original gangsterโ€

#

But definitely not a proper full boss

cold owl
#

He's definitely not a boss cuz Yharim is the only confirmed future boss.

#

Potentially Noxus and Xeroc

alpine jetty
#

it would be cool tho

#

i would like the fight another one of the humans who are just ridiculously strong

#

calamitas is the only one so far

#

and i think its really cool fighting someone whos the same size as u

cold owl
#

Lunatic Cultist too but I get what you mean.

hoary cape
#

I mean technically slime god is the same size as you

cold owl
#

We'll have Yharim once the mod or fully done.

cold owl
hoary cape
#

Not sure

#

But based on the size of it compared to its paladins in the sprite I would imagine roughly

glacial rampart
#

hes like 7 feet tall without the armor

#

and the armor is huge

cold owl
hoary cape
#

Each block is 2ft

#

So he would be technically 2

cold owl
#

He'd be Lunatic size

hoary cape
#

With his armor he is like 9ft tall

#

Which would put him at basically 2 blocks taller

alpine jetty
cold owl
hoary cape
#

He isn't cringe the guy is keeping moon lord contained

#

And is on the dragons side

#

Which can be either a good or bad thing depending on the situation

#

Depends on the dragon

cold owl
#

He did allow the dungeon incident to happen too though

alpine jetty
#

isnt yharim also on the dragons side

glacial rampart
#

i think theres a line of amidias dialogue where he talks about breaking the cultists seal

alpine jetty
#

and hes like super evil

glacial rampart
#

i cant remember exactly what he says but i like it

#

good line

cold owl
hoary cape
#

LC is a bit crazy. I would imagine trying to keep moon lord contained does wonders on ones sanity

alpine jetty
#

hes a lunatic

hoary cape
#

Yes

#

Not as insane as Yharim is though

alpine jetty
#

i like to think the lunatic cultist named himself

#

at least he owns it

#

yharim thinks hes sane

hoary cape
#

He can think that all he wants, but buring people at the stake just for worshipping Silva doesn't make you sane

cold owl
hoary cape
#

He murdered children because their parents worshipped gods ๐Ÿ˜ญ

alpine jetty
#

yea i know we PROBABLY named him

#

i just like to think that terrarian met the lc and he was like

#

hey im the lunatic cultist

hoary cape
#

I imagine LC is just saying a bunch of incoherent stuff during the fight and you just go yah bro is a lunatic

cold owl
#

With the 10 second starting animation we've decided that this guy's completely out of it.

hoary cape
#

Does anyone have their terrarian kill LC knowing moon lord will be released or do you all have it be like just you fight him and then are just surprised when aliens show up lol

cold owl
#

Short sumalmary, my character has direct ties to the dungeon. So he remembers the cultists and what they let Yharim do to him. However Moon Lord, yeah it just happens and he just goes with it lol.

spare pier
#

Calamari does it totally willingly because she's sure she can do it

cold owl
#

I do wonder how you could justify ML if you're a good character. Especially since I don't think it's known if ML is even weakened.

icy veldt
#

Perhaps you're making a gamble to deal with the threat permanently, instead of letting it continue to menace the world

hoary cape
#

But do you even know it exists ?

cold owl
#

You're still gambling the fate of the world on a maybe.

hoary cape
#

Is moon lord a name we gave it or is that just it's title that it's given by people who don't know it's fovos

icy veldt
cold owl
hoary cape
#

Don't tell me the odds -terrarian when fighting a very powerful alien, even though it's currently in a weakened state

cold owl
glacial rampart
thick slate
#

NO

#

give me embed perms

alpine jetty
thick slate
#

i miss my embed perms

plucky lichen
#

These fucking dudes shot me while I trying to visit the dungeon

robust osprey
alpine jetty
#

the skeletron prime lore item is so directly morbid

long bloom
#

the warcrime division

alpine jetty
#

like you can kinda assume all the atrocities yharim commited over the course of the war through the other lore items but

#

he literally like

#

directly states

#

yea i have a division of people who just set civilians on fire

long bloom
#

bbut he's a tragic hero guys.. .

robust osprey
#

guys yellow man is a good guy

alpine jetty
#

he fell from grace tho...........

robust osprey
#

ignore the 9999 war crimes

alpine jetty
#

he used to be good.....................................

#

im curious about this entry to do with silva and the abyss

#

an event to do with this would be cool

glacial rampart
#

he says, being the reason shes in the abyss in the first place

#

he says, also even though silva is literally allowing life to flourish

alpine jetty
#

yea ignore yharims dumbass perspective

#

idk at some point to abyss transforming would be cool

long bloom
#

yessss i want more drastic changes to the world

#

like the only good thing from wotg (rift eclipse)

#

that's sick as fuck do more like that

alpine jetty
#

imagine the abyss slowly getting more planty as you defeat bosses

pliant ruin
#

It'd be cool if post ml abyss had more planty life down in the lower layers

sinful adder
#

I agree

alpine jetty
#

it sucks thereโ€™s not really much of a reason to go to the fourth layer apart from the terminus

#

and wyrm if

#

ig

robust osprey
#

reaper tooth

thick slate
robust osprey
#

yes but that requires killing bummer fishron

#

use reaper tooth to kill od to get more reaper tooth

#

investment

untold forge
limpid saddle
#

Not the genocide though he definetly doesnt regret the genocide

balmy glacier
#

how kaput yharim's psyche will be if someone shows him images of featherless yharon?

pliant ruin
#

Yharim has regrets but he dosen't regret the actual horrible actions he committed and is literally just delusional in his judgement of what he did wrong

jaunty wraith
#

You have to consume an auric soul to ascend to godhood which begs the very important question.

What does it taste like?

balmy glacier
#

lava chicken

#

ยฉ

pliant ruin
#

The answer my brain wants to give is "Well, the "consumption" wasn't literal and was instead done through a ritual"

#

The answer my heart will give is Probably like those glazed sweet peanuts or something

cloud ibex
#

Prion disease

random mulch
#

like coffee made with brine

lucid niche
#

are bestiary entries written from yharim's perspective, like the lore items? or are they just made by the world's ballsiest wildlife documentarian

cloud ibex
#

Some unspecified omniscient outer perspective

#

Not any specific character

#

This also makes them an unbiased source of info to compare Yharimโ€™s bullshit with

young socket
lucid niche
#

got it, thanks

young socket
#

because the bestiary entries straight up proves yharim wrong multiple times

#

or calls him out on shit

cloud ibex
#

For example, Ravager

young socket
#

like yharim just omitting that he was the one who sent cal to perma

#

instead of cal just doing it

fierce pagoda
fierce pagoda
#

either that or he lies to us to manipulate us to follow in his footsteps

random mulch
#

latter is a definitely yes but i wouldn't be surprised if he was the former as well

fierce pagoda
#

Did he purpousfully lie about stormweavers origins? or am i misremembering

#

or did he just really not know

tropic oak
#

mistake XD

split mortar
fierce pagoda
#

Lol what a bum

#

guys lets kill Yharim

long bloom
glacial rampart
#

i want more yharim characterization where its just him knowking jackshit about animal biology

#

so he says some stupid ass shit

#

and the bestiary is the real information

long bloom
#

that would be funny

alpine jetty
#

yharims insight

#

queen bee

#

they replicate by being so cool and awesome.

#

lizhards

#

theyre stupid and dumb and bad

#

they shit out their mouths and sound funny

plucky lichen
#

Remember to always trust the racism genocide man

inner surge
#

A couple days ago, I asked for permission to record a fan voicing of the lore items. I've returned with Pt1: Prehardmode. https://youtu.be/P7B3IyUKFFc Video's finally up.

split mortar
#

Listening
So far pretty cool

#

yeah good job

inner surge
#

Thank you. Would it surprise you to know I did this all in one take?

Thereโ€™s two sneaky edits, but otherwise, one single recording.

split mortar
#

Yeah it would surprise me

inner surge
#

I wanted to use the music boxes in-game to cover for my total lack of music-editing skills, so I stored the items in a chest, and read the text from in-game while switching music boxes on and off as needed. This is why the pauses between items are irregular, because I had to move my character around to reach some of them.

This took several attempts to get right. I wanna say I had to restart at least half a dozen times before I had a take I could patch up easily, but I didnโ€™t need to worry about getting the music to blend smoothly. I put a lot of effort into minimizing my efforts.

inner surge
#

Trying to decide whether "The Pillars" or "Storms Before the Catastrophes" is more fitting backing for Prelude (Lunatic Cultist). I'm already playing the latter behind Requiem (Moon Lord), so I guess it could get the intense-tone section out of the way for the more somber parts of the song to play over Requiem, but I've also been fairly committed to playing the first song you'd hear after the boss theme fades out, and I feel like the lunar events theme is more fitting for that than any of the biome themes. Prelude and Requiem are two parts of one story, though so maybe I should give them the same theme.

alpine jetty
#

such a funny example of yharim just being stupid as fuck

#

like literally right underneath his lines its like yea

#

he was just dumb

cloud ibex
#

dude is literally just sayin shit

faint totem
#

โ€œYharim, can you GET YOUR FUCKING STORY STRAIGHT!โ€ -the guy in charge of making the lores

alpine jetty
alpine jetty
#

this is such a strange line from xeroc

tropic oak
#

i wouldnt say it is as much as you think it is

hoary cape
glacial rampart
#

because like

#

Yharon probably doesn't think of Xeroc as his "old friend" in any regard

thick slate
#

a phoenix screech but a hawk tuah

scenic olive
#

What are the chances that Fovos wasnt actually attracted to consume the planet but the portal to Noxus

alpine jetty
alpine jetty
thick slate
#

weren't they like friends before xeric ascended

alpine jetty
#

i guess they were probably friends before xeroc 'betrayed' the dragon

#

yea i guess

hoary cape
#

i don't think xeroc even betrayed them

#

zeratros was beyond help

#

fovos made it so he was gonna die permanently

alpine jetty
#

oh i dont even know anything about that

#

not in lore doc

tropic oak
glacial rampart
hoary cape
#

yes

glacial rampart
#

damn

#

when

hoary cape
#

it's been discussed here on occasion

alpine jetty
#

wait so we actually do know what happened with xeroc

#

what da helly

hoary cape
#

no

#

that part is just speculation

#

however the zeratros dying regardless on if xeroc took the power is confirmed iirc

alpine jetty
#

so we still dont really know if xeroc is a good person

hoary cape
#

well given the fact that he was best friends with zratross it wouldn't make sense for him to betray him when he was already gonna permantly die anyway

#

but ๐Ÿคท

#

he ciould have

glacial rampart
#

and he was also apparently friends with Yharon

#

enough to consider him an old friend

hoary cape
#

yah well yharon doesn't know the details

#

some of the gods did indeed kill dragons

alpine jetty
#

didnt all of them kill dragons

hoary cape
#

providence for instance

#

i would imagine that a few did it with less malice than others, or even made a deal of sorts

#

provi actually killed an evil dragon iirc, but i can't remember if she was doing that for any good reason

alpine jetty
#

did the evil dragon make her evil or was she always just yea lets burn everyone

hoary cape
#

i think something snapped her later on iirc

violet spoke
hoary cape
#

๐Ÿคท

#

i do not remember the details

#

i am pretty sure it was mentioned here at one point

violet spoke
#

hm

hoary cape
#

silva and ravager, before being brought back, are both good gods, so i doubt they betrayed the dragons

#

plus i am pretty sure most of the gods aren't even dragon followers anyway

#

they probably just saw xeroc ascend and went wait we can do that?

robust osprey
#

I think death was evil (?

#

if not thats my headcanon now

hoary cape
#

i am pretty sure he wasn't

#

the dragon just had a death aura

robust osprey
#

well that may make him evil by people's perception

deep lagoon
#

Sorry if this is a little off topic for right now, but I couldnโ€™t find anything about this in the lore doc, so does anyone know if Calamitas burned Azafure in her fight with the brimstone elemental before or after she was in Yharimโ€™s army? Like did she and brimmy burn the place down and then Yharim put her in the army, or did Yharim like station her in Azafure and it was just the wrong place at the wrong time?

alpine jetty
#

from what i undderstand she got her powers at the same time brimmmy awakened

deep lagoon
#

Ah, that makes sense, thank you

hoary cape
#

they fought and because of it azafure kinda got damnaged

robust osprey
#

yeah Scal got her powers while fighting

hoary cape
#

rip azafure

robust osprey
#

do note that Scal tried to protect azafure

hoary cape
#

no one knows why brimmy went all berserk iirc

deep lagoon
#

Just felt like it idk

hoary cape
#

she woke up and decided to destroy the city that she has seen before

#

you know what today screw you all

#

proceeds to throw hands

deep lagoon
#

So Azafure is Calamityโ€™s version of nyc, got it

hoary cape
#

it even has a walmart

#

azafurian walmart

deep lagoon
#

The entire brimstone crags biome is a parking lot

scenic olive
hoary cape
#

It's where scal worked part time before brimmy destroyed it

robust osprey
#

supreme unemployed

plucky lichen
#

Azafure is Spain Britain hell America

zenith geode
#

is there a canon duration for the terrarian's whatever the hell it is

faint totem
#

?

zenith geode
#

like when you come in and just start doing stuff

thick slate
#

no

#

the terr

zenith geode
#

the terrarian that takes 800 years and now yharim is dead

long bloom
#

but there's no telling how long it takes your slow ass

robust osprey
#

the terrarian is you

#

if you want to be really technical take your character playtime and multiply by 60

jaunty wraith
#

This means you can fight bosses and stop at somthing random like aquatic scourge and its just as canon

humble moon
sinful adder
#

I should write a robot Terrarian character someday

#

Maybe I will for SSO

#

The idea just sounds cool. Would be something like the ones from NEIR and cave story combined

sinful adder
#

Actually, Mega Man X is probably the best comparison for the idea I have

untold oracle
#

Btw the terrarian is lea

robust osprey
#

can't believe my terrarian is an alcoholic lesbian

pliant ruin
#

Cant believe my terrarian killed nebbies sister

cosmic minnow
split mortar
#

Cant believe the terrarian has an adopted demon daughter from the heavens

real silo
#

Can't believe the terrarian is french

stoic gulch
#

Are there any other planets in cal

#

Except terraria

split mortar
#

Yes
Martians are from a different planet

stoic gulch
stoic gulch
split mortar
#

Its just like irl tho they kinda all suck ass for holding life

split mortar
#

Mars is canon but earth isnt

untold oracle
untold oracle
robust osprey
#

pรฉarot is real...

wheat walrus
split mortar
#

Pea

frank imp
#

hi calamity royal chat๐Ÿ‘‹

long bloom
#

hallo

limpid saddle
frank imp
split mortar
#

Wheres the yaoi

#

Not yaoi

#

Yuri

#

Theres already yaoi

real glen
#

๐Ÿ—ฟ

faint totem
split mortar
#

?

faint totem
#

Cirrus and Stylist.

cloud ibex
#

that wasn't yuri that was hallucinations

balmy glacier
random mulch
#

cirrus, who's cirrus? there never was a cirrus, cirrus is a type of cloud you idiot clueless

faint totem
#

Which is why it was removed

random mulch
#

that's a citrus

long bloom
#

wrong

#

it's cirrus

faint totem
#

Personally, if cal devs decide to add an actually good yuriโ€ฆ.hear me out. Dryad X Steampunker

mighty zenith
#

โŒ

hoary cape
#

The dryad is like 500+ years old

sinful adder
#

I don't think that matters very much

#

But anyways

#

What are dryads

#

They're clearly special and probably Silva related

#

Are they like parts of Silva, like the brimlings are parts of brimmy?

hoary cape
#

nature spirits

#

if you go by myths outside of terraria

sinful adder
#

I mean in calamity

hoary cape
#

maybe they are her children in a sense

random mulch
sinful adder
#

Maybe they're her literal children and Silva fucks

faint totem
long bloom
#

lore question

#

can elementals fuck

random mulch
#

this channel is very normal

hoary cape
#

no one can in terraria

#

children just manifest out of thin air

glacial rampart
random mulch
#

no

hoary cape
#

no

long bloom
#

quick someone look through all town npc dialogue for any mention of sex

sinful adder
#

I thought and said it on purpose because it was funny

glacial rampart
#

no i think you're just weird

hoary cape
#

benny you need to change your name it has ben in it and you need to avoid the assoiciation

glacial rampart
#

i've been benny for the last like 2 years here

sinful adder
#

What

#

Oh

glacial rampart
#

this mf is encroaching on my copyright

#

also its my name

sinful adder
#

I've been here for like 5 years, just inactive for a while

#

Yeah it's my name too

glacial rampart
#

emminent domain

hoary cape
#

fight each other for the rights to the name

glacial rampart
#

:/

long bloom
#

there's only one way to settle this
fight to the death

random mulch
#

simple solution

#

no need to fight like barbarians

pliant ruin
#

Yuri exists in calamity

#

its ME

real silo
#

The loser shall be bem

random mulch
#

both of you change your names ultimatesmug

long bloom
hoary cape
#

that's true just fight Orios and the person who beats them up the most gets to keep their name

glacial rampart
#

anyways im not going to talk about my name anymore

#

:/

pliant ruin
#

hi benny

#

ur name is benny

random mulch
#

oh dear

hoary cape
#

oh my goodness it's the cheese

pliant ruin
#

thats me im cheese

hoary cape
#

how is cheese

pliant ruin
#

im eating , beans

hoary cape
#

i am working on writing for my dnd setting lol

glacial rampart
long bloom
#

literally 1987

hoary cape
#

twas a joke anyway i wasn't gonna make either of you change

cloud ibex
#

you're calamitas and she's aroace...........

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something doesn't add up here...........

hoary cape
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the answer is yes

real silo
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yuriace

pliant ruin
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I thought you were joking

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sorgy

random mulch
glacial rampart
split mortar
glacial rampart
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now stop :/

split mortar
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^

pliant ruin
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melon stop responding to that

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melon stop giving that message attention

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that message isnt real

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stop looking at it

split mortar
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Whaur

wheat walrus
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melon stop doing melon things, said chee

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now gun

split mortar
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Oh nvm that wasnt a genuine question
Vaporising them

wheat walrus
long bloom
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first we melon

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then we gun

wheat walrus
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LET'S MELON GUN ๐Ÿ—ฃ๏ธ๐Ÿ”ฅ

random mulch
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what a calamity

wheat walrus
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๐Ÿˆ๐Ÿ”ซ

split mortar
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๐Ÿ˜ญ

hoary cape
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a gun that shoots melons

dusk laurel
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im krilling melon gun

split mortar
hoary cape
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if you do then you get terminated also

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melon gun is under protection

random mulch
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DraedonIdle.gif

sinful adder
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silva is called the "first dryad"

split mortar
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added in 2.0.2.001

sinful adder
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Ok I see

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I think it would kind of be more fitting if she was the mother dryad because like

Reproduction is the main thing life does. It is kind of what defines life

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Even if it has weird implications

long bloom
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that would be cool actually

hoary cape
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i mean as an elemental and a goddess she could have children but make them with nature magic instead of other methods

sinful adder
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Life itself revolves around animals finding mates and reproducing and Silva could deem her most devout and pure hearted followers to be a worthy mate

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Yes it's kind of weird to human sensibilities but it makes perfect sense

sinful adder
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Though obviously not currently

long bloom
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does her physical body even like
have organs tho
or anything inside really

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what is her physical body

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what the fuck are elementals

sinful adder
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We don't know. I'm just guessing based on the fact that she has a human appearance

strong notch
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Other elementals are just made of their element, but Silva is made of life and so is probably a living being

snow mountain
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It would just be fitting given what she is and what life is