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not sure which though
North Korea
All of them
End of the world it is
Wait no that's Providence, not Calamitas
Also, might as well ask, what bosses aren't evil in Calamity.
I can definitely say the Desert Scourge, Crabulon, Slime God, and the Sea Serpent aren't evil
Cheese is literally calamitas
I would classify the plague bee as evil due to being a literal bioweapon
slime god isn't morally upstanding
Yeah, he's a bit slimy tbh
Not saying they need to be good
Just
Not evil
(๐ฅ)
Or at least not killing people indiscriminately
Well yeah it's literally just a lobotomized vessel for the Plauge nanovirus, which has the sole directive of consuming & converting more mass
so y'know
pretty mindless evil
But yeah we got the serpents as a definite.
Crabulon is a dead corpse possessed by mushrooms. It is neither evil or good. Just there
What else
Me omw to adapt the nanoplague to people-sized forms and inject it into everyone
primordial wyrm is neutral
PW is trying to keep anything primordial light away from the terminus
why is slime god fought before queen slime
will be changed in the future
slime god also has a banger soundtrack
Must be then.
hmm
yeah its possible
Lore wise
Queen slime is the hallowed paladin, went rogue and absorbed slime god
did you read the message when you defeated it or either of their lore items
Because queen slime is the hallowed paladin of slime god that they lost control of & were consumed by
i just bin everything except treasure bags
Most likely reason irl
Fabsol stopped the devs from moving stuff around causing that
The whispers are literally lore dumps
calamity fans when playing the game:
god it's hopeless
Unreliable ones but often hold parts of truth
Calamity fans really are illiterate jesus christ
literally throwing away the lore text
It's for the few of us who aren't illiterate: we get to enjoy some extra things that others don't care for
doesnt mean im illiterate
yeah all you see is calclone smh my head

"ERM AKTSCHUALLY <blah blah blah>" Be quiet, goofball
me when i ask about lore after not reading lore
fabsol when he sees somebody having fun:
oh
no embed
embed fail!
goldshi
i would have a reaction but i cannot embed
I have no perms and I must embed
yeah well i am dyslexic and i cannot understand a lot of things
so thats why i ask
and then you all get mad i ask
you didnt even bother to read the lore items you literally said you trashed them yourself ๐
because i tried reading some of it before
theres a difference between struggling to comprehend writing & ignoring the writing
put all that on top of the character interactions and Yharim's lore entries and publish it as a book
no
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The roaring knight vs your average no hit infernum player
So a harbinger of genocide versus a masochistic sociopath
I mean people have no hit his boss fight already
"his" 
*itโs
Nobody even knows who or what the roaring knight is, as far as im concerned all pronouns are on the table
(Though wouldnt they make most scence for this?)
I prefer it
Thats fair
ill be honest i just call the knight she because its very obviously dess
at worst it's carol
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there are literally two options and one is 95% likely and the other is 5% likely

and both of htem are women
and both are women
I've heard so many theories, I dont even think of it
Gaster, papyrus for some reason
Papyrus is a joke
For me it's probably dess
Supreme Calamitas and any of the bosses that are just animals
gg eas
and the knight's weapon looks like a whiffle bat
Does ravager count as evil
Which unless you believe there's a secret tunnel under the church to carol's house, or that carol can teleport, fundemntally doesn't work
God of Sacrifices was a good guy but he's like a murder demon with basically no sapience now
so uhh yeah id say he counts hes evil yep
No its ness
It's literally Dess just by sheer process of elimination, even disregading the vast majority of Dess-related proof
Wait... dess is one letter off from ness, and as we all know ness is sans who is also Steven universe
Plus the knight is incredibly powerful... this means the true identity of the knight is...
Mr rogers in a bloodstained sweater
Anybody who thinks otherwise in my experience just thinks Dess is "too obvious" of a choice, when, if you were just to play the game start to finish all seven chapters like the game is being built around... it kinda isn't?

That's how I feel
Its just fucking dess
What if the knight just never gets revealed
Given. Clearly it's Dess that got REALLY fucked up somehow. But that's more than question rather than "who is the knight"
it's moreso
"WHY is the knight?"
Maybe the real roaring knight is the friends we made along the way
When all in doubt, blame gaster
Desert Scourge - Animalistic
Crabulon - Animalistic
Dragonfolly - Animalistic
Calamitas Clone - Fuck if i know lol calclone rework tmr
Cryogen - Not Sentient
Aquatic Scourge - Animalistic
Brimstone Elemental - Definitely extremely destructive, dunno if she's sentient but if she is probably count as a evil
Slime God - Morally Dubious but definitely not a Good Guy
AnaLevi - Similar boat as Brimmy
Aureus - Not Sentient
PBG - Incredibly dangerous and destructive, dunno if itd call it evil given it's barely even sentient or alive atp and is just forced to do things through cybernetics
Profaned Guardians - Evil
Astrum Deus - Animalistic, usually docile but attacks you due to the infection
Evil2 - Evil
Ceaseless Void - Not Sentient
Providence - Evil
Weaver - Animalistic?
Polterghast - Indiscriminately destructive, might count as evil depending on who you ask
Ravager - Basically the same thing as Polter
Signus - Uhhhh. Possibly Evil? Maybe more of a Neutral guy?
Old Duke - Evil
Devourer - Evil
Yharon - Evil
Draedon/Exos - Depends on who you ask, i personally would say more so neutral than evil
Supreme Calamitas - Not Evil
holy wall of text
Didn't think it'd be that much screen space taken up
I was bored man
yhar har har
eh, i don't think gaster has anything directly to do with it. at most i'd say indirectly.
We already know the plot of the game basically: it's a combination of Mother 3 and Live a Live.
Yharim - Praise my lord amen he did nothing wrong ๐
i think gaster will show up at some point but won't nessesarily be an antagonist or even main character
i think he is
as the game says about the eggs
Gaster has already shown up, just not in the normal game world
Of course yharim isn't evil, hes a very misunderstood anti hero...
Yeah I only read the lore entries and take them at face value without thinking of anything deeper... how could you tell
Not too important, but not too unimportant, either
friend inside me prophecy
I dont think gaster is going to be fully answered
Same
Part of gasters appeal is how much unknown there is about him
I honestly hope he's left as still, while we get some answers
Still kind of a mystery
also it's really funny that the most commonly used appearence for Gaster isn't even tehcncially clear if it's what Gaster looks like or not

The sprite everyone assumes is gaster is just called "mystery man" in the files
We could be completely off
I'd be funny if it ended up being that Gaster was basiclaly hiding in plain sight this entire time somehow
The soul is gaster confirmed /s
If he does end up looking like that, I'd be very curious to know whether he always looked like that, or if his design got changed at all to match that a bit closer
Same sorta vein of me also wnating to know if Undertale is an anagram of Deltarune, or if Deltarune is an anagram of Undertale
It's the most likely one given that it specifically shows up at fun value 66 but it's true that it's never confirmed
Seeing as Deltarune was conceptualized years before Undertale but whether it got named before Undertale is unclear
Deltarune came first. We know this from the concept art. Noelle's design predates Undertale's release
I mean yeah but we don't know if it was always called Deltarune
Given
If the specific name of "Deltarune" becomes more thematically relevant
Yeah probably Deltarune first
Creative projects like that can have namechanges at various time sin development, even very late into it
It is already relevant: it's the Change Prophecy/Writing/Story
The prophecy of change, the prophecy which changes
Well, we don't know that for sure
But it sure seems like it
What the hell did Susie see?
It seems like it but I don't wnna make too many assumptions
Anyways: Dess is Clause and Kris is the former hero guy who becomes the dark Lord in Live a Live
Anywho imma go bakc to cooking
Doesnt the audio that plays when mysteryman vanishes is just some music sped up by like 666x times or somethinf
toby fox destroying a decade of fanart because he made Gaster not look like the mystery man
We know 1 shard of gaster doesnt
Need help refining my lore for the terrarian
they suck at naming things
the sound it makes when it disappears is a sped up version of Gasters Theme
no they existed as the last king of a dying empire called slom
ive been playing calamity for quite a while and ive noticed the bells, i dont see much talk about them in the web so, what do they represent? the little bells that are present in like, brutal calamity and the DoG theme and of course stained brutal calamity, are they suppose to represent God-like power?
i think they just sound cool
they just sound cool
and "god-like power" ranges from slime god to xeroc anyways so

touhou soundfont tubular bells sound cool and thats pretty much it
im surprised yharim didnt get triggered by the death of yharon
wasnt this the same mf that cared for him scince childhood?
Yeah heโs the auric dragon of rebirth. Heโll be back. In a decade or two
what would you be a god of if you ascended with yharon's soul
depends on if its a perfect ascension, and if it wasnt it depends on who you are as a person and what your views are
how about like yharim then, if he didn't deny the ascension
god of chicken
god of l-l-l-lava
probably something like immortality
necromancy feels like a possible target
What was that brim remix that got made for lava chicken
Eternity is right there, guys
lalalalava chichichichicken cal's lava chicken yeah it's all burnt as hell ooh mamacita now you're burnin it down ooh way too crispy now you're gnawing on ash ooh super spicy it's a brimstone attaaaaaack
We become mutant
true
oh sorry
Anyways
that's a good one you should do that
Goku
Haha you're Mad

is it true that Xeroc is โNameless Deityโ? i heard it from some people in tik tok (the calamity side) and they were talking about it
no
whos the nameless deity?
nameless is its own thing
oh
yeah ik
addons are never canon to calamity
aww man i was thinking about goozma as well
like hes the first life in terraria, he has its cult and everything
is there any official addons? from the dev team
or just a part of dev team
nothing official
the only official addon is calamity music
with canon lore
the closest to an official addon you get is vcmm, calamity music doesnt really count as an addon considering its a cal dependency
and even then vcmm is not official
thats just endorsed
yeah
ye you don't have to install VCMM
people would get really mad if their vanilla musics are not allowed
Never believe what you see on tiktok. That place is full of lies
Even moreso than other sites
or youtube when it comes to class guides
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the immersive music box wiki page
asgore gif
Ah damn missed more talking with devs time
This guy playing a dating sim
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Cal dev dating sim

So random thing
Is the reason why most in-lore people could only go as far in progression as beating the EoC is because of what gear is available to the common person?
Hi guys
Got one question recently
Why dont Permafrost and Calamitas have any interaction between each other even when they both are Npcs?
Like, they don't even mention each other even though they were very close during the war with gods
because a lot of dialogue is outdated
It's uh
Most dialogue is outdated and both NPC happiness and Permafrost dialogue in particular are being redone
E.g. Amidias is going to hate Calamitas
Fair enough
She literally destroyed his home
One of the devs mentioned something about him eventually forgiving her but idk if that's actually planned
Why does yharim have obsession for bees
cal redemption arc soon
i thought he was going to be more forgiving of her?
He doesn't
its a fandom joke based on the fact he admires them a bit
It isnt exactly the obsession
He dislikes any form of tortue that is related to defenseless beings
Thats a joke people make the guy just finds bees a bit neat at best iirc
The guy hates the nano plague cause it is slavery not cause its on bees
He just hates how Draedon literally enslaved not only an animal he liked but later went onto wreck havoc upon an ecosystem
(even though that was yharim's fault but shh)
He is the jungle tyrant of course he doesn't like his place getting plagued,but i see the vision
except for if the defenceless being is a god
Effectively
used to be the jungle tyrant
not jungle tyrant
Seeking the gods and slays
Ok
jungle thing is old lore
Well, maybe he could've noticed the thing that she regrets her deeds and just executed what Yharim ordered her to do
Speaking of yharim....
We still don't know much about our character's lore if we were to fight him are we gonna be his successor?
The terrarians lore is up to you
Now where is that image
Chat should i send the image
the accursed image
didn't this get banned?
The one thing all terrarians have in common:
We suck shit at naming things
spamming it did
Fck that acidic dih making my game like PowerPoint
once in a while its fine
Infernum stuff
Also there's the possibility of Draedon literally ruining any chance of the jungle being resettled
he can stop it whenever
Dear god my Internet is freaking out
once he gets what he deems to be enough info, he'll very likely shut all the plague off
Literally every damn time a character in a show/movie/game has made something like this the damn thing always becomes immune to the kill switch
even if the killswitch failed he's definitely got other methods
The way to make the killswitch effective is just send the exos to vaporise pbg
Pbg is the bypass and draedon can easily handle that
some sort of lightweight exo
Just send thanatos to eat the fucker
Also aren't queen bees supposed to be a cornerstone of jungle inhabitation?
thanatos is dead
granted he can probably just make a new one
Just make another
but thats valuable materials
I imagine at minimum 2 queen bees have been taken over
there's only one pbg
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wait
Yeah but there's standard plaguebringers
what even are plaguebringers
I think queen bees that got infected while a larva and grew up with the infection iirc
Queen bees that got taken over when in their larval state
The Goliath is one that got heavily armed by Draedon himself
I'd send the plaguebringer bestiary but idk if my wi-fi will let me
Oh also I think the pbg's organic body is mostly decayed
I doubt Amidias will just Hate Calamitas and Not Change His Stance On Her Ever because that'd be like kind of really lame
Not to say he needs to immediately fully forgive her or anything but like
Don't make the Character completely Static 
I do think amidias currently is way too forgiving but i dislike both extremes of having he just fully hate her always and having him immediately forgive her
Both just feel very shallow
I uh
I can't lie, I wouldn't forgive her
She literally boiled an entire city
And left it where even some of the people she killed can't rest
Amidias is the king of sunken sea
Not city
Half of the fucking country
I'm not talking about whether you would forgive her or not
I'm talking about how just having amidias not change at all is boring and not narratively interesting
I thought he was just the prince?
He dosen't need to necessarily forgive her but also just having his stance on her just be I Hate Her all the way through is just lame
There's a difference between understanding and forgiveness, is my take
Yep
Amidias is straight up the king
I don't think he'd forgive her. But I think he'd understand.
Amidias is the king of the sunken sea
Cei whats your opinion on adding deltarune to calamity
he is literally referred to as the sea king
I've told you like a dozen times at this point, maybe literlaly, that you don't have to aks if you cna ask a question, you can just ask

Doofus
Didnt recognise you for a sec vanillin
what if that was the question
delbarube
@manic coral
delbarube
How often do you die while exploring the underground? Which is where 90% of gear is?
I'm sorry, I'm used to not being allowed to say anything if I ask if I can first
exactly 
Beating eoc is still like a 1 in a thousand thing
also that'd require one to be physically capable enough too
Barely any armour is actually sold and is often not that strong
Also average person has like 2 life crystals max
I think the heartlands is the exception on that front
I could see most civilized places having someone that they could get armor from
Still think that my theory of azafure using ruby gemtrees to export life crystals is neat
I should write down all my head canon stuff some day
Yeah but still the max resources they would often have is still platinum
Like unless a place has special resources like hellstone for azafure or aerialite for chrysadia i dont see what they can really do beyond platinum
Likely depends on location and how developed the place is
Could see some places having access to palladium
Its canon that appears after we kill wof
Also there's likely stuff not in the heartlands that is on other continents
I mean i'm sure there'd be people with stronger equipment but it wouldn't be common
True but i doubt most places have unique special resources
The reason hearthlands even have so many unique resources is by virtue of them being
well, the heartlands
There's so much divine essence bullshit, bullshit caused by Draedon's experiments and technology, bullshit caused by the lingering necromancy of the Incidents... You get what i mean
Not to say i don't think there wouldnh't have been other places with their own unique resources
But i very highly doubr any of them would have such a great concentration of different, valuable and unique materials
And theres like no one to take said resources
Wc
That does make me wonder if specifically the life fruits are unique to the heartlands
hearthlands are basically just like
no man's land
You can go there and get absolutely rich
Seems like a wof thing so yeah probably
I could see those being very valuable to trade
But also the chances of you actually being able to get rich depend on you not dying which is incredibly hard for most average johns
Imagine how big of a feat would killing boc or eater be in terraria if killing eye make you a legends
like to get sea prisms alone you have to
Average johns
Bigger local legend
I imagine your name starts getting out quite far by like slimegod or wof
They can be grown
The only time we know of that happening is draedon
travel through the underground desert while not getting mauled by any of the giant fucking bugs in there, find a way to swim down to the lower areas of the sunken sea without drowning so you'd likely need some appropriate equipment like potions or diving gear, and also while doing all of this making sure you don't get eaten by any of the several predators in the sunken sea that most people have absolutely no chance of fighting back against
And don't forget
after you mine the sea prism
you have to do everything all over again to return to the surface
With the same dangers from before
And sea prisms are arguably one of the easiest to get of the unique materials within the hearthlands.
Yeah I think killing wof could be like worldwide stuff cuz itโs Yharim crusade thing
Unless nobody know that thing actually exist
Whether they can be grow or not (Which again, ignoring that Draedon was the only one able to do that so far, and it likely requires recreating very specific conditions that would require extensive study of the prisms and for you to have samples to begin with) isn't rly relevant here what i'm trying to get at is that this sort of rule just applies for the hearthlands as a whole
There's so many unique, valuable resources on it that could make most people rich but also
Your chances of survival in trying to get these resources are Really Slim unless you're a experienced survivor/warrior
gills potions would be so uncomfortable
speaking of wof, how does the guide tie into this in cal lore. I've been headcannoning him as an ex-member of the crusade who volunteered to be the wall
I think theyโre making the guide azafurian
I dont think the guide is the wall but is related to it due to possibly being one of the guys who helped make it i think?
We dunno much but will learn more in sso
Calamity guide resprite
hi calamity royal chat
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Fortnite vs calamity final boss
Fortnite vs the fucking sun
The sun wins
unmatched power of the sun
I was reading Draedon's codebreaker text, who is Braelor?
Silvaโs champion
One of the guys who jumped Yharim so hard he had to crawl back to Draedon to get his armor upgraded
statis's boyfriend
Yeah i just read that 
local yellow man beaten up by wokeness
then dog counter-jumped them and threw them in the distortion
Yellow man nearly dies to gays
statis made a deal with signus to escape and just left braelor in there
terrible husband
to be fair statis probably thought he and braelor would get out together
but signus is a bitch
Faustian rat bastard
I've just realized how dense the lore
I'm reading all the Draedon lore while I'm in classes blah blah blah calamity lore better
yellow man killing people > math
true
In this case psychopathology
Just a random introduction class, bro i have already talked to all these people, just let us go please
calamity planet is shaped like a pretzel canon
what the fuck is wrong with you
Whaur
rude:(
huh
wait so the cultists threw yharim and yharon into hells lava right
Not the dragon cult
Cultists of some gods and yharim was born in that cult iirc
what im confused about is like
why would they throw yharon in
seems like kinda a waste of an auric soul
because he rejected consuming yharon's soul
no i get why they threw yharim in
wait im an idiot
LMAO
like why would they do that
are they stupid
they could just have someone else be god king
and eat his soul
so some random strong guy refused to eat his soul so they were like
ok bye dragon that makes people into all powerful gods
i mean either way like
where would the new egg appear
and iit just seems inconvenient
i assume they wanted a person that they had groomed to be the god of (whatever yharim would've been) because thats kind of like
a really powerful thing
and i assume they would want control of that
the thing was that
yharon was already close to hatching so yharim rejecting absorbing his soul risked him just escaping
ooooooooooooooh ok that makes sense
and his egg always appears in the aerie so they just assumed they would go back to collect it later
okok thank you
this is the kind of stuff that makes me think yharim regrets what he did
but apparently im being gaslit </3
"ohhh i was such a bad boyyy ooo ignore my genocidess"
i didnt say that lmao
hes obviously a bad person
im just asking if hes like changed now that the war is over
Hey everyone, random question, did we give all the bosses that aren't human-like their names as we know them? Its confirmed the mechanical bosses' names are ours as players? Like is Slime God also named by us?
Or are there any others?
Slime god is the god of slime hence the name
Yeah I can see thatโฆ
draedon isnt a big fan of skeletron prime
No, his remorse is almost entirely a performance, meant to influence the player character into being his successor
Shout out to the name golem
at least the terrarian has a few bangers like superradiant slaughterer
Yharim does not regret having over 300 million killcount
Skeletron was likely also named by terrarian
Brave
thank you thank you
Controversial take dont do genocide
This is Yharim trying to sway you with sympathy. He might regret a little what he did to Calamitas and Permafrost. But he also tries manipulating you with the "Fallen Hero" narrative, instead of that he was always bad.
yea true
what if calamity turned into a visual novel post yharim
He even calls himself a fallen hero "How long has it been since I was a hero worthy of their name?"
can we date yharim
In the first lore item
Do you think Permafrost would buy into the "fallen hero" nonsense, given he was one of the first who joined up with Yharim?
no
no shot
iirc he was the first to leave
permafrost didnt even wanna be there in the first place ๐ญ
permafrost thought war was bad but then also hung out with the most notorious warmongerer
Wait, I thought Perm was one of the first to join Yharim, like just a bit after Yharon?
Pretty sure he joined a little before or around Draedon. Draedon joined 22 years in.
I feel like he did join much sooner than 22 years though
22 ...
how long is the war again
100+ years
Around a century
its like 1880 something when the game takes place
thats crazy
cause calamitas was only around for like a decade
yet shes so important
Started in 1781, present is around 1887 but there's no confirmed present.
war is still technically going on right
Probably because all of the calendars got destroyed so no one knows what year it is
(jk)
man took so long for this war that it started around the american revolutionary war and like
Fun Fact! Cleopatra was born closer to Yharim's Crusade than she was to the construction of the pyramids!
if you consider a few brown embers to be a flame then yeah
Eh, there have been long wars in IRL history, too, like the off-and-on Hundred Years War, though it didn't even nearly reach Yharim's anti-civilization crusade in brutality
It's at a stand-still iirc
Since Yharim fled to the aerie
i wonder if yharim feels the kind of pain that rips his insides out
nobody will get this
He will
(Correct, I don't get it)
BoJack horseman? Could be completely wrong.
wrong entirely
Damn, no clue lmao
do you reckon statis or braelor will just be npcs or a boss fight if theyre added
Braelor will be an npc found in the Distortion subworld. Statis will be a random npc you find and will be directly tied in a quest for Signus.
There was a leak on what the Statis/Signus quest will be, but Idk if I should talk about it since it wasn't meant to be public.
I canโt really see braelor being a boss
Mostly cause I donโt see why heโd fight you
maybe he went crazy in the distortion
we dont really know what goes on in there right
and hes been in there for years
and his boyfriend left him
He has been there for quite a while
also he could think youre with yharim
the last human other than statis he saw was yharim
I do wonder though what will happen when you do meet him. Will he move to the overworld instead? I don't think he's gonna be a house npc right?
I guess maybe as a brief miniboss duel typa thing before he goes โoh my mistake original gangsterโ
But definitely not a proper full boss
He's definitely not a boss cuz Yharim is the only confirmed future boss.
Potentially Noxus and Xeroc
it would be cool tho
i would like the fight another one of the humans who are just ridiculously strong
calamitas is the only one so far
and i think its really cool fighting someone whos the same size as u
Lunatic Cultist too but I get what you mean.
I mean technically slime god is the same size as you
We'll have Yharim once the mod or fully done.
Will his new sprite be the same size?
Not sure
But based on the size of it compared to its paladins in the sprite I would imagine roughly
yharim is NOT gonna be our size though ๐ญ
hes like 7 feet tall without the armor
and the armor is huge
He's like a block taller.
He'd be Lunatic size
yea but that guys cringe
Yeah, that's I meant by knowing what you meant
He isn't cringe the guy is keeping moon lord contained
And is on the dragons side
Which can be either a good or bad thing depending on the situation
Depends on the dragon
He did allow the dungeon incident to happen too though
isnt yharim also on the dragons side
i think theres a line of amidias dialogue where he talks about breaking the cultists seal
and hes like super evil
Yharim's mindset very simplified is
-All Dragons good
-All Gods bad
LC is a bit crazy. I would imagine trying to keep moon lord contained does wonders on ones sanity
hes a lunatic
i like to think the lunatic cultist named himself
at least he owns it
yharim thinks hes sane
He can think that all he wants, but buring people at the stake just for worshipping Silva doesn't make you sane
Since canonically we name Skeletron Prime and others. I feel like we just looked at cultist and said "Yeah, this guy's a lunatic"
He murdered children because their parents worshipped gods ๐ญ
yea i know we PROBABLY named him
i just like to think that terrarian met the lc and he was like
hey im the lunatic cultist
I imagine LC is just saying a bunch of incoherent stuff during the fight and you just go yah bro is a lunatic
With the 10 second starting animation we've decided that this guy's completely out of it.
Does anyone have their terrarian kill LC knowing moon lord will be released or do you all have it be like just you fight him and then are just surprised when aliens show up lol
Short sumalmary, my character has direct ties to the dungeon. So he remembers the cultists and what they let Yharim do to him. However Moon Lord, yeah it just happens and he just goes with it lol.
Calamari does it totally willingly because she's sure she can do it
I do wonder how you could justify ML if you're a good character. Especially since I don't think it's known if ML is even weakened.
Perhaps you're making a gamble to deal with the threat permanently, instead of letting it continue to menace the world
But do you even know it exists ?
You're still gambling the fate of the world on a maybe.
Is moon lord a name we gave it or is that just it's title that it's given by people who don't know it's fovos
"Those are the best odds I've had in my life"
Until SSO comes out. Mine just doesn't know. It's kinda funny because Yharim's tells my character about it AFTER he just released it.
Don't tell me the odds -terrarian when fighting a very powerful alien, even though it's currently in a weakened state
Turns out you were right.
"what is this cultists problem? what is he, some kind of lunatic?"
i was gonna send that as well but i donโt have embed either
i miss my embed perms
My guy donโt got a clue
These fucking dudes shot me while I trying to visit the dungeon
"hey why tf are there aliens now what the hell happened"
the skeletron prime lore item is so directly morbid
the warcrime division
like you can kinda assume all the atrocities yharim commited over the course of the war through the other lore items but
he literally like
directly states
yea i have a division of people who just set civilians on fire
bbut he's a tragic hero guys.. .
guys yellow man is a good guy
he fell from grace tho...........
ignore the 9999 war crimes
he used to be good.....................................
im curious about this entry to do with silva and the abyss
an event to do with this would be cool
he says, being the reason shes in the abyss in the first place
he says, also even though silva is literally allowing life to flourish
yea ignore yharims dumbass perspective
idk at some point to abyss transforming would be cool
yessss i want more drastic changes to the world
like the only good thing from wotg (rift eclipse)
that's sick as fuck do more like that
imagine the abyss slowly getting more planty as you defeat bosses
It'd be cool if post ml abyss had more planty life down in the lower layers
I agree
it sucks thereโs not really much of a reason to go to the fourth layer apart from the terminus
and wyrm if
ig
reaper tooth
camt u fish it
yes but that requires killing bummer fishron
use reaper tooth to kill od to get more reaper tooth
investment

I think he definetly regrets that very end of the Crusades, where he began crashing out over his failure to become strong enough to slay Xeroc, thus leaving him to become heavily depressed & let his armies collapse as his strongest allies left him, he definetly values the loyalty of his men & I think he definetly regrets spurning that loyalty
Not the genocide though he definetly doesnt regret the genocide
how kaput yharim's psyche will be if someone shows him images of featherless yharon?
Should be draedronโฆ.
This is spot on actually yeah
Yharim has regrets but he dosen't regret the actual horrible actions he committed and is literally just delusional in his judgement of what he did wrong
You have to consume an auric soul to ascend to godhood which begs the very important question.
What does it taste like?
The answer my brain wants to give is "Well, the "consumption" wasn't literal and was instead done through a ritual"
The answer my heart will give is Probably like those glazed sweet peanuts or something
Prion disease
like coffee made with brine
are bestiary entries written from yharim's perspective, like the lore items? or are they just made by the world's ballsiest wildlife documentarian
Some unspecified omniscient outer perspective
Not any specific character
This also makes them an unbiased source of info to compare Yharimโs bullshit with
if they were written by yharim, he wouldve contradicted himself multiple times
got it, thanks
because the bestiary entries straight up proves yharim wrong multiple times
or calls him out on shit
For example, Ravager
like yharim just omitting that he was the one who sent cal to perma
instead of cal just doing it
woahs i didnt know you were a mod
bro is a pathological liar
either that or he lies to us to manipulate us to follow in his footsteps
latter is a definitely yes but i wouldn't be surprised if he was the former as well
Did he purpousfully lie about stormweavers origins? or am i misremembering
or did he just really not know
mistake 
The guy is just actually bad at biology
that is in fact the goal of the game yes
i want more yharim characterization where its just him knowking jackshit about animal biology
so he says some stupid ass shit
and the bestiary is the real information
that would be funny
yharims insight
queen bee
they replicate by being so cool and awesome.
lizhards
theyre stupid and dumb and bad
they shit out their mouths and sound funny
Remember to always trust the racism genocide man
A couple days ago, I asked for permission to record a fan voicing of the lore items. I've returned with Pt1: Prehardmode. https://youtu.be/P7B3IyUKFFc Video's finally up.
Thank you. Would it surprise you to know I did this all in one take?
Thereโs two sneaky edits, but otherwise, one single recording.
Yeah it would surprise me
I wanted to use the music boxes in-game to cover for my total lack of music-editing skills, so I stored the items in a chest, and read the text from in-game while switching music boxes on and off as needed. This is why the pauses between items are irregular, because I had to move my character around to reach some of them.
This took several attempts to get right. I wanna say I had to restart at least half a dozen times before I had a take I could patch up easily, but I didnโt need to worry about getting the music to blend smoothly. I put a lot of effort into minimizing my efforts.
Trying to decide whether "The Pillars" or "Storms Before the Catastrophes" is more fitting backing for Prelude (Lunatic Cultist). I'm already playing the latter behind Requiem (Moon Lord), so I guess it could get the intense-tone section out of the way for the more somber parts of the song to play over Requiem, but I've also been fairly committed to playing the first song you'd hear after the boss theme fades out, and I feel like the lunar events theme is more fitting for that than any of the biome themes. Prelude and Requiem are two parts of one story, though so maybe I should give them the same theme.
such a funny example of yharim just being stupid as fuck
like literally right underneath his lines its like yea
he was just dumb
dude is literally just sayin shit
โYharim, can you GET YOUR FUCKING STORY STRAIGHT!โ -the guy in charge of making the lores
- I suppose it serves as a reminder to be careful what you believe.
- what he believes is wrong
this is such a strange line from xeroc
i wouldnt say it is as much as you think it is
well you see he doesn't think it was wrong
its not exactly a strange line but im curious about what he really means
because like
Yharon probably doesn't think of Xeroc as his "old friend" in any regard
a phoenix screech but a hawk tuah
What are the chances that Fovos wasnt actually attracted to consume the planet but the portal to Noxus

yea exactly thats what i mean yea
see yea this is confusing to me
weren't they like friends before xeric ascended
i don't think xeroc even betrayed them
zeratros was beyond help
fovos made it so he was gonna die permanently
is that public information?
yes
it's been discussed here on occasion
no
that part is just speculation
however the zeratros dying regardless on if xeroc took the power is confirmed iirc
so we still dont really know if xeroc is a good person
well given the fact that he was best friends with zratross it wouldn't make sense for him to betray him when he was already gonna permantly die anyway
but ๐คท
he ciould have
and he was also apparently friends with Yharon
enough to consider him an old friend
didnt all of them kill dragons
providence for instance
i would imagine that a few did it with less malice than others, or even made a deal of sorts
provi actually killed an evil dragon iirc, but i can't remember if she was doing that for any good reason
did the evil dragon make her evil or was she always just yea lets burn everyone
i think something snapped her later on iirc
like "i will use this power for the good!" and got corrupted by the said of power type of some sort?
๐คท
i do not remember the details
i am pretty sure it was mentioned here at one point
hm
silva and ravager, before being brought back, are both good gods, so i doubt they betrayed the dragons
plus i am pretty sure most of the gods aren't even dragon followers anyway
they probably just saw xeroc ascend and went wait we can do that?
like killing an evil dragon
I think death was evil (?
if not thats my headcanon now

well that may make him evil by people's perception
Sorry if this is a little off topic for right now, but I couldnโt find anything about this in the lore doc, so does anyone know if Calamitas burned Azafure in her fight with the brimstone elemental before or after she was in Yharimโs army? Like did she and brimmy burn the place down and then Yharim put her in the army, or did Yharim like station her in Azafure and it was just the wrong place at the wrong time?
from what i undderstand she got her powers at the same time brimmmy awakened
Ah, that makes sense, thank you
they fought and because of it azafure kinda got damnaged
yeah Scal got her powers while fighting
rip azafure
do note that Scal tried to protect azafure
no one knows why brimmy went all berserk iirc
Just felt like it idk
she woke up and decided to destroy the city that she has seen before
you know what today screw you all
proceeds to throw hands
So Azafure is Calamityโs version of nyc, got it
The entire brimstone crags biome is a parking lot
Hellmart
It's where scal worked part time before brimmy destroyed it
supreme unemployed
Azafure is Spain Britain hell America
is there a canon duration for the terrarian's whatever the hell it is
?
like when you come in and just start doing stuff
the terrarian that takes 800 years and now yharim is dead
your journey starts somewhere between 1887 and 1897
but there's no telling how long it takes your slow ass
the terrarian is you
if you want to be really technical take your character playtime and multiply by 60
This means you can fight bosses and stop at somthing random like aquatic scourge and its just as canon
Too many hell Karens came to the hell McDonalds
I should write a robot Terrarian character someday
Maybe I will for SSO
The idea just sounds cool. Would be something like the ones from NEIR and cave story combined
Actually, Mega Man X is probably the best comparison for the idea I have
Btw the terrarian is lea
can't believe my terrarian is an alcoholic lesbian
Cant believe my terrarian killed nebbies sister
Canโt believe the terrarian is married to a fish lady
Cant believe the terrarian has an adopted demon daughter from the heavens
Can't believe the terrarian is french
Yes
Martians are from a different planet
Sscls assemble ts
โฆmars?
Its just like irl tho they kinda all suck ass for holding life
PEAROT
PEAROT
Its true!
pรฉarot is real...
Pear
Pea
hi calamity royal chat๐
hallo
we arent royal but thanks hi too
๐
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We had yuri. But it was the bad kind so it was removed
?
Cirrus and Stylist.
that wasn't yuri that was hallucinations
but thatโs a humiliation against lesbian women:(
cirrus, who's cirrus? there never was a cirrus, cirrus is a type of cloud you idiot 
Which is why it was removed
no it's a type of acidic fruit
that's a citrus
Personally, if cal devs decide to add an actually good yuriโฆ.hear me out. Dryad X Steampunker
โ
The dryad is like 500+ years old
I don't think that matters very much
But anyways
What are dryads
They're clearly special and probably Silva related
Are they like parts of Silva, like the brimlings are parts of brimmy?
I mean in calamity
maybe they are her children in a sense
damn
Maybe they're her literal children and Silva fucks
โSilva fucksโ
this channel is very normal
does anyone ever think before they speak
no
no
quick someone look through all town npc dialogue for any mention of sex
I thought and said it on purpose because it was funny
no i think you're just weird
benny you need to change your name it has ben in it and you need to avoid the assoiciation
i've been benny for the last like 2 years here
emminent domain
fight each other for the rights to the name
:/
there's only one way to settle this
fight to the death
The loser shall be bem
both of you change your names 
true
that's true just fight Orios and the person who beats them up the most gets to keep their name
oh dear
oh my goodness it's the cheese
thats me im cheese
how is cheese
im eating , beans
i am working on writing for my dnd setting lol
dont bring up my name again pls
literally 1987
twas a joke anyway i wasn't gonna make either of you change
but how can you be yuri...........
you're calamitas and she's aroace...........
something doesn't add up here...........
the answer is yes
yuriace
Oh wait is this like serious
I thought you were joking
sorgy
the answer is that the regime knows best
yes
Nah because a lore dev said she would be mother dryad then iirc
now stop :/
^
melon stop responding to that
melon stop giving that message attention
that message isnt real
stop looking at it
Whaur
Oh nvm that wasnt a genuine question
Vaporising them
stop melon, start gun
LET'S MELON GUN ๐ฃ๏ธ๐ฅ
what a calamity
๐๐ซ
๐ญ
a gun that shoots melons
im krilling melon gun
I DIDNT EVEN START IT
DraedonIdle.gif
Was that current lore or old lore? It's not clear what a dryad even is, and whether Silva is a dryad in new lore
silva is called the "first dryad"
Look at the quote i responded to
"the first dryad's vines deem you worthy of their abyssal treasures"
added in 2.0.2.001
Ok I see
I think it would kind of be more fitting if she was the mother dryad because like
Reproduction is the main thing life does. It is kind of what defines life
Even if it has weird implications
that would be cool actually
i mean as an elemental and a goddess she could have children but make them with nature magic instead of other methods
Life itself revolves around animals finding mates and reproducing and Silva could deem her most devout and pure hearted followers to be a worthy mate
Yes it's kind of weird to human sensibilities but it makes perfect sense
I think it could be either way given her physical form
Though obviously not currently
does her physical body even like
have organs tho
or anything inside really
what is her physical body
what the fuck are elementals
We don't know. I'm just guessing based on the fact that she has a human appearance
Most likely something soul like with body made out of their element
Other elementals are just made of their element, but Silva is made of life and so is probably a living being
IS THAT THE INVENTOR OF TWEETER
It would just be fitting given what she is and what life is

