lore-discussion

[eager bluff]

the soul they consumed, if they did a perfect ascension, and their own personal beliefs and goals

[hot valve]

could you elaborate what polytheistic/monotheistic religion means

[tropic oak]

perfect and imperfect

[hot valve]

Is it just like, multiple gods vs one god religion

[eager bluff]

polytheistic - multiple gods
monotheistic - singular god

[tropic oak]

imperfect means they become the god of something similar to the dragon’s soul they took iirc

[hot valve]

Well I'd still say the Greek pantheon is like, far above Calamity gods

[tropic oak]

perfection ascenion means they become the god of the same thing the dragon was

[alpine jetty]

thats what i meant when i said personality yea

[tropic oak]

for exaple

[alpine jetty]

ok ok

[tropic oak]

xeroc and silva

xeroc and silva share the same domains as their dragons

[eager bluff]

in a whole lot of polytheistic religions there are myths of regular people ascending to be comparable to the gods if not actually just becoming one

[hot valve]

Oh I see

[tropic oak]

everyone else is everyone else

[alpine jetty]

what is xeroc even the god of

[hot valve]

light

[zenith geode]

primordial light

[eager bluff]

primordial light

[tropic oak]

primordial light

[alpine jetty]

ok that makes sense

[tropic oak]

fuck my stupid baka internet

[hot valve]

The Sun is the primordial light also iirc

[glacial rampart]

yeah

[tropic oak]

correct

[eager bluff]

the sun is a massive ball of it yes

[glacial rampart]

the sun is not a star in calamity

it is primordial light

and stars are smaller things made of mana

[faint totem]

Light on anabolic steroids

[zenith geode]

shoutout to the short time where day empress yeah she just wielded the full force of the primordial light before she got nerfed both lore wise and ingame to just be a small fraction

iirc it was the full force

[alpine jetty]

also who is statis

[tropic oak]

^ during boss rush, Xeroc uses fragments of primordial light to remake the bosses. unsure if thats canon still

[tropic oak]

statis is a ninja

boyfriend of Braelor

[hot valve]

God of Slime is a very good example of imperfect ascension
Came from the Dragon of Gluttony

Gluttony is something slimes typically are, so that's the connection

Statis is also the former leader of the Onyx Kinsmen, some ninja clan that revered Slime God

[alpine jetty]

how do braelor and statis like tie into the story

[glacial rampart]

EPIC RAP BATTLES!!!!
EMINEM!!!!
VERSUS
THE UNMATCHED POWER OF THE SUUUUUUUUUUUUNNN!!!! BEGIN!
yo thats an awfully hot coffee pot- AAAAAAAAAAAAAAAH

[faint totem]

Yaoi

[tropic oak]

braelor is a champion of silva, and statis is a ninja, former leader of the onyx kinsmen,

they didnt like yharim

[eager bluff]

they are esentially the biggest obstacles to yharim

[tropic oak]

they tried to kill yharim

but they fucked up and DoG shoved them into the distortion

Statis got out and left his boyfriend in there thru a deal with Signus

[hot valve]

They are both people who love their particular gods and were forces against Yharim
Braelor and Statis dueled Yharim together only for DoG to save Yharim before he lost

[alpine jetty]

ok ok

was that at like

[hot valve]

Statis made a deal with Signus, at the cost of an arm and a leg

[alpine jetty]

the end of the war

[hot valve]

to escape

It was very recent

[tropic oak]

this was just before we enter the world

around 6 months

[hot valve]

less than a year ago

[tropic oak]

afterwards i think Yharim upgraded his armor (?)

[zenith geode]

i forget do we still know absolutely nothing about signus

[hot valve]

As a result of that encounter Yharim went to Draedon to demand an Exo upgrade to his armour

[alpine jetty]

wait so from the player perspective we just show up during the war and just start slaughtering both sides

[tropic oak]

no

we slaughter evil gods and yharim’s forces

sometimes shit just gets in our way

and attacks US

[glacial rampart]

and also aquatic serpents

[hot valve]

Slime God's morality is pretty unclear atm

[eager bluff]

we dont know the specifics of what actually went on in the distortion there we just know that statis made a deal with signus that cost an arm and a leg to get out and for some reason or another braelor didnt get out

[alpine jetty]

so the war is technically going on right

[zenith geode]

is slime god even sapient

[tropic oak]

yes

[faint totem]

He looks like he’s constantly shitting himself

[eager bluff]

yes

[faint totem]

It’s a coward, but ya

[eager bluff]

uhh i mean not really?

[hot valve]

It is free from the hivemind of the distortion and is potentially on a higher level of heirarchy than DoG I hear, despite being lower in progression

[alpine jetty]

the reason i ask is cause like

[tropic oak]

it’s “ongoing”

[alpine jetty]

we dont see people fighting

or whatever

[tropic oak]

but Yharim is just

chilling

[faint totem]

“Enter the world.”

[eager bluff]

its technically going on but in practice its ended

[hot valve]

Yharim's actual army has kind of dissipated

[faint totem]

They’ve gone home, some in a body bag

[hot valve]

Yharim himself is very clearly running on fumes and he knows it
He's old

[alpine jetty]

wait so after yharim blew up the sea and stuff who is like

fighting him still

who is the opposing army

[tropic oak]

he still has enough forces considering we’re still getting a yharim’s army invasion event

confirmed like 2ish years ago

iirc

[hot valve]

True that is in the future content doc

[tropic oak]

id say he’s got a handful left

[alpine jetty]

wait thats actually so fucking cool

but yea who is like

the other side

who is the other army

[eager bluff]

any of the remaining gods

[hot valve]

Obv not very many details since it's left to the far future, and it's probably going to be the last few high ranking and hyper loyal soldiers he has

Any gods and their surviving followers

[tropic oak]

as far as im aware

everyone we’ve saved (perma, etc) and remaining gods r against him

Calamitas doesnt want to fight anymore

but she’s “on our side” and lives with us

[alpine jetty]

oh wait it makes way more sense that the other side isnt like an organized milittary

[faint totem]

He’s getting too old for this shit

[alpine jetty]

because we dont actually see any fighting

[eager bluff]

yeah

[alpine jetty]

yharims army is just hunting gods

[hot valve]

It's a one sided crusade, yes

[tropic oak]

yes that was all in the past

we never see it but we see the consequences

[eager bluff]

any organized militaries were pretty handily taken care of by yharims forces

[tropic oak]

(see: the ilmerians)

((fucking torched))

[zenith geode]

yeah theyre not doin so hot anymore

[hot valve]

The Gods themselves all have their own goals, ranging from Providence's world cleansing and...probably really chill Live Your Life for some other gods

[tropic oak]

they were hot for a time

[alpine jetty]

ok so how important is silva

[zenith geode]

are there any ilmerians besides amidias left

[alpine jetty]

i keep hearing her name

[tropic oak]

unsure until sso

[alpine jetty]

is that the sunken sea city place

[tropic oak]

we will find the remains of ilmeris down there but im not sure if we’ll end up finding any survivors

[tropic oak]

ye

[hot valve]

I think the future content doc lists a bunch of ghosts/dead ilmerians to be present in sso

[zenith geode]

ilmeris used to be the full desert until it got razed by calamitas

[hot valve]

but not a single living one besides amidias

[zenith geode]

sunken sea is the small bit she didnt get

[tropic oak]

im so sorry amidias

[alpine jetty]

yea sunken sea is. likke the rural outskirts apparently

[tropic oak]

poor little guy

is there any canonical lore explanation for why the fuck he was in a clam

i forgot

[alpine jetty]

he got ate

[zenith geode]

he got eaten iirc

[tropic oak]

LOL.

great

[dusk laurel]

old lore gaming

[hot valve]

She's one of the more present gods in the story
Her champion is Braelor and he almost successfully killed Yharim with Statis' help

She also is an elemental (I believe is what they're called?) and literally is incapable of dying

[dusk laurel]

one day he'll get promoted to being in a temple

[tropic oak]

i cant wait for us to come across Statis and Braelor’s room in sso and have a certain crowd rage about how they only have one bedroom togeher

[zenith geode]

silva's currently chopped up in the bottom of the abyss

[hot valve]

Her corpse is what made the abyss full of plant life and made it habitable for a lot of creatures

[alpine jetty]

are we gonna like meet statis at some point

[tropic oak]

ya

[hot valve]

yes

[tropic oak]

probably

[hot valve]

He will be a wandering NPC with quests

[zenith geode]

distortion update if yes

[tropic oak]

he has an npc i think

and quests

[zenith geode]

i think

[alpine jetty]

ok that’s cool

[scenic yacht]

we'll likely meet both at some point

[hot valve]

There is talk that he is how you will fight Signus and get the Void Sash accessory

[alpine jetty]

braelor ? isnt he dead

[scenic yacht]

nah

[hot valve]

nah he's just stuck in the distortion

[scenic yacht]

hes just trapped in the urple place

[zenith geode]

probably not

[alpine jetty]

oooooh ok ok

[hot valve]

you will find him there and he will become a town npc

[dusk laurel]

hes chilling in the land of purple

[zenith geode]

just not exactly easy to get out of the evil dimension

[tropic oak]

what im really hoping is for Braelor to mistake us for Yharim when we enter the distortion and have him try to kick our ass because we’re more than likely going be wearing Auric Armor

dudes strong as FUCK

[hot valve]

Distortion is pre auric

[tropic oak]

borrring

[alpine jetty]

omg can we please have a quest line where we like try to fix braelor and statis relationship

[hot valve]

You enter after Ceaseless Void

[alpine jetty]

because they’re mad at eachother

[tropic oak]

theyre still together iirc

one is just out of the distortion and the other isnt

nothing says they had a falling out

[alpine jetty]

he left his bf

[hot valve]

iirc in the future content doc they miss each other a lot
when you rescue braelor that is when Statis becomes town npc instead of just wandering

[tropic oak]

hope we can put them in a room together where they deserve to be

[alpine jetty]

true

[hot valve]

actually it's not mentioned in the future content doc that they miss each other i just made that up for effect but it's almost certainly true

[tropic oak]

id like to think they miss each other

[alpine jetty]

is there any explanation of why yharon statis braelor and calamitas are just like

[tropic oak]

they are dating afterall

[alpine jetty]

super strong

[tropic oak]

yharon is a dragon

go figure why hes strong

[zenith geode]

guessing you meant yharim

[alpine jetty]

FUCK

I MEANT

FUCK

[zenith geode]

he's got attunement with a dragon

[alpine jetty]

SOREY

[faint totem]

So they can do Yaoi things

[tropic oak]

yharim is attuned with Yharon

(ezpower)

and is overall just a strong fucking guy

it’s intentionally left out but i think thats a part of why yharim was chosen to ascend as god king

but fate is for the weak after all

[hot valve]

Calamitas' power to my knowledge comes from clashing with the brimstone elemental and it caused some weird transferral or something

[tropic oak]

correct

[zenith geode]

brimmy should be post scal :clu

[tropic oak]

statis is strong cuz hes a fucking ninja and ninjas r op in this universe for some reason

see: rogue class

[hot valve]

Yharim is naturally just insanely cracked (can handle lava armourless) and is able to live for a long ass time, but otherwise it's all armour/equipment/attuned to a dragon

[tropic oak]

Truth

[alpine jetty]

i like to think that deep down they miss eachother but they had like a little couple fight while in the distortion and are a little mad and thhen you so cute little quests like deliver letters to make them happy again

[faint totem]

Meanwhile we can’t even fight without weapons

[alpine jetty]

wait so she. wasn’t that strong before the fight

[tropic oak]

she was fairly strong beforehand

[zenith geode]

at the end of it you get a lucky day which lets you dodge 20% of hits

[tropic oak]

evenly matched with the brimstone elemental

then again

?????? happened and she yoinked some of its power

[dusk laurel]

she got her powers the same day brimmy woke up

[alpine jetty]

omg…

[tropic oak]

holy crap. is that Vanilla

[hot valve]

I hear that Calamitas is actually like hyper frail even when we play the game (like average person), she just has a forcefield around her that prevents us from turning her into paste

[dusk laurel]

🍦

[alpine jetty]

9600000 hp npc

[tropic oak]

if you could find me a source for this

[zenith geode]

which is why she stops fighting when her shield goes down

[tropic oak]

im praying its true

[zenith geode]

wow i love how my internet goes out sometimes

[tropic oak]

it would be incredibly funny to me

[hot valve]

I heard that from this chat and a dev i think but I have 0 sources so take it with a grain of salt tbf

[tropic oak]

if rhat were true

hmmm

ill choose to believe it because its funny

[hot valve]

maybe I can find it if i use discord search function hold on

[tropic oak]

-# and in some sense, makes sense

[alpine jetty]

also do we know who the DoG is working for

[zenith geode]

noxus

[dusk laurel]

noxus

[tropic oak]

noxus

[alpine jetty]

i used to think he was cool before i read the lore but he’s just a lying little bitch

[tropic oak]

dont ask about noxus we dont know anything

except that hes one of the big bads in the distortion

[alpine jetty]

ngl. i don’t really know anything about xerox and noxus

[alpine jetty]

oop

[zenith geode]

i was gonna say something but i forgot if it was patreon exclusive fuck

[tropic oak]

i know everything about xeroc

[tropic oak]

yeah im trying to watch my mouth here too

i know stuff that goes beyond just patreon and im just trying to filter what i say

[faint totem]

I know that two super bosses from wotg were at one point based on them, but that’s about it

[tropic oak]

what do you want to know about xeroc ari

[alpine jetty]

idk all i know abbout him is that he was the first one to eat a dragon soul

[tropic oak]

correct

[alpine jetty]

and he became super powerful

[tropic oak]

he consumed Zeratros’ soul,

the dragon king

[alpine jetty]

ohhhhhh so he’s like

the god king

[tropic oak]

in a sense

[alpine jetty]

or super god

idk he’s like

[tropic oak]

yes

[dusk laurel]

everything we know is
xeroc is the first god (of primordial light), was a dragon monk beforehand, hasnt been near the planet in a long long time, and is the strongest god

[hot valve]

How do you know things beyond patreon exclusivity lmao

[tropic oak]

but they wouldnt call that themself that

[zenith geode]

everyone knows the first is always the strongest

[alpine jetty]

way more. powerful than the other goods

[hot valve]

I didn't even know there was patreon exclusive lore hints

That's cool though

[tropic oak]

i work for vcmm and catalyst mod and im friends with most caldevs

[hot valve]

Oh neat!

[tropic oak]

yeye

[alpine jetty]

wait so why is xeroc important

what did hhe do

after he ate

[dusk laurel]

i sent a message

[alpine jetty]

[tropic oak]

see this:

[hot valve]

He is the strongest ever

[faint totem]

The first god.

[zenith geode]

also he's the guy who runs boss rush

[alpine jetty]

oh that’s everything ok ok

sorry my bad

[dusk laurel]

he set off a domino effect that caused the remaining auric dragons to be hunted

[tropic oak]

xeroc may seem evil to you because they ate zeratros’ soul but its unconfirmed what genuinely went down

[tropic oak]

then that happened ^

[zenith geode]

being able to effortlessly make copies of things as strong as dog, exos, and calamitas is pretty big

[alpine jetty]

yea he seems kinda evil to me

[dusk laurel]

if it was intentional, we dont really know

[faint totem]

And gives us:
A really cool rock.

[tropic oak]

then yharon told yharim what happened and yharim labeled xeroc the traitor almighty or some shit

idk if thats still canon

correct me if im wrong

[zenith geode]

i remember rock's old lore

[dusk laurel]

yharim isnt exactly a reliable source

[tropic oak]

correct

so have ur opinions dont listen to auric hitler

[faint totem]

A pebble from the dragon place right?

[zenith geode]

it used to be the first thing that xeroc created

[hot valve]

it is to my knowledge

[alpine jetty]

i find it funny how much of an infamous reputation yharim has as if like

he shouldn’t really be around anymoree

[hot valve]

I've never heard Yharim called auric hitler before that is funny as fuck

[alpine jetty]

but he’s just chilling somewhere

we just can’t find hhim

[faint totem]

Oh

[alpine jetty]

that is CRAZY

[tropic oak]

we know where his ass is

[zenith geode]

he's in the dragon aerie

[tropic oak]

he’s chillin in the aerie

[alpine jetty]

yea the aerie

[tropic oak]

which we somehow find!

[alpine jetty]

but we don’t know where

[faint totem]

It’s accurate

[alpine jetty]

that is rn right

[dusk laurel]

we'll fight him after calamitas/exos

[hot valve]

I believe yharim will just let us find it presumbly

idk how he controls that but uh

[tropic oak]

idk i think a genuinely huge as fuck sky island is that noticable

[zenith geode]

actively invites a challenge

[dusk laurel]

yharim opens a portal for us that cant be moved or closed

[tropic oak]

idk how draedon cant find it (loser tech) but we are assumed to even though the smartest thing on fucking terraria couldnt

[faint totem]

We made miracle matter, we can find a rocky place

[hot valve]

I assume it's literally just a pocket dimension

[alpine jetty]

chud scientist vs based witch

[tropic oak]

idk dickhead did you try LOOKING FOR DRAGONS

assuming any are left

[zenith geode]

fraudon when he has to find a giant floating rock in the sky (he's done it several times before)

[tropic oak]

clueless

[tropic oak]

truth

[tropic oak]

i assume the world soul is cloaking that bitch

thats my theory

[hot valve]

I'd believe it

[alpine jetty]

draedons actually really. cool but i also hate him

i have mixed feelings

[dusk laurel]

the aerie probably is frozen in time

[zenith geode]

i like how draedon actively wants you to fight yharim not because he doesn't like yharim but he just wants to see whatll happen

[alpine jetty]

lmaooo

[tropic oak]

i love draedon. dude just wants to know

thats all it does

[hot valve]

Draedon is immoral due to being an AI and while his methods are often disregarding morality, are advacing Terraria's tech by hundred of years

[faint totem]

I am fully convinced we just do amazing shit by accident(Take your fuckin pick) and loosely connected long shots(Auric Bars).

[zenith geode]

draedon can supposedly fix a bunch of the shit that's been done

[tropic oak]

truth

trivial matters apparently……

[spare pier]

Still think the best thing I made for Draedon is that he cares A LOT about sociology

[tropic oak]

hi rebecca

[faint totem]

He doesn’t because he’s a busy man

[zenith geode]

but he won't because where else are you gonna find a nuked ocean that somehow has a shitton of life

[hot valve]

Draedon's prescence is probably far more beneficial than it is hurtful

[faint totem]

What’s that

[tropic oak]

people

why

[spare pier]

The study of society

[faint totem]

Ohhh

[tropic oak]

thats sociology

[alpine jetty]

draedon is a dick because he could do so soso much good but he chooses to make war machines because he likes it

[tropic oak]

bro just wants to know

[stark basalt]

joker??

[zenith geode]

he'll probably fix the sulphurous sea eventually

when it stops giving him info

[faint totem]

He wishes to expand human understanding. Which happens to involve the military industrial complex. Because we hate each other.

[alpine jetty]

he literally has a plague infesting the jungle that he can just stop whenever

he just doesn’t feel like it

[dusk laurel]

draedon doesnt operate like a human

[zenith geode]

what kind of scientist doesnt incorporate a stop right now button on the evil robovirus

[hot valve]

I forget if it was stated that Draedon could devastate the entire planet if he wanted to but, that's not useful or interesting

[tropic oak]

it was

[faint totem]

Because it’s still giving him information. He’s very goal oriented.

[zenith geode]

yeah exos could probably raze the entire planet

[tropic oak]

the world would be ended smelling like silicon or soemthing

[spare pier]

I mean it's not like Draedon only made war machines, even if those are

[tropic oak]

i forgot the statement

[spare pier]

The vast majority of his work

[faint totem]

Because why would he study a world that’s dead

[zenith geode]

apollo's flames were made to simulate calamitas' iirc

[alpine jetty]

who writes all this lore by the way

[tropic oak]

let’s pit draedon against the united states military i want to see what happens

[hot valve]

Draedon has advanced medicine and health hundreds of years I'm sure

[faint totem]

Autistic Special interest

[alpine jetty]

cause there is SO MUCH

[spare pier]

Moreso "Draedon could manufacture a powerful enough army that everyone would be just fucked"

[tropic oak]

rebecca can you allow draedon to aurafarm canonically

[zenith geode]

they'll be too busy bumbling around about insert modern trivial topic here that he can just send a fucking weak old model and win

[tropic oak]

i need this

[faint totem]

Draedon clears. We have a bottomless pit of defense spending yes, but we can’t beat GAUSS NUKES and the other shit he can pull out his non-existent ass

[tropic oak]

i need this

[spare pier]

Even if he can't mass produce the Exo Mechs, give it a few decades and like

He'd probably have 10 sets of them

By which point yeah there's

Not much anyone can do

[hot valve]

Can Draedon theoretically fight Yharim with enough robots that Yharim would die of exhaustion?

[faint totem]

With prep time, he negs, got it

[zenith geode]

probably, he'd just have to get to yharim first

[spare pier]

He already aurafarms silly

[tropic oak]

Nuh uh

he sits thats not aura farming

[spare pier]

Yes it is

[alpine jetty]

no he stands up

[tropic oak]

thats sitting aura……

[alpine jetty]

that’s aura

[zenith geode]

but yharim ran away like a little bitch instead of facing his problems head on

[hot valve]

If Yharim's not healing quickly and the robots aren't significantly going down in numbers enough, I doubt he'd live for long

[faint totem]

Draedon: cries in can’t find a single fucking rock

[tropic oak]

I need that man standing watching us with binoculars through the yharim fight

[alpine jetty]

also why did yharim give up

[zenith geode]

especially now that yharon's dead

[alpine jetty]

like why did he stop

[faint totem]

For now anyway

[spare pier]

Meaningless statement but I think Yharim could take two Exo sets at once, any more and he'd lose

[hot valve]

Of course Draedon has no reason to (and if fact stated a reason not to) kill Yharim (nor can he find him anyway)

[zenith geode]

i dont think yharim could hold himself for ten years

[tropic oak]

LOLLLL

[alpine jetty]

did yharim leave yharon

why are they apart

[zenith geode]

you killed yharon

[faint totem]

He’s getting too old for this shit

[faint totem]

They got a divorce

[alpine jetty]

i know but like

was he chilling with yharim

[tropic oak]

he doesnt come back for a decade

[alpine jetty]

and then player calls him up

[tropic oak]

he slid for yharim on his own

[alpine jetty]

and he’s like

alr gotta go

[tropic oak]

d1 homeboy

[spare pier]

Depression due to multiple different factors

See, I'm gonna say this

[tropic oak]

id love a yharon without trying to give me all of that radicalization at my side

[spare pier]

Something I realized the more I wrote about the Incineration

[faint totem]

Yharim: “I am depressed.”
Suddenly, pineapples.
Yharim: “This does not help.”

[spare pier]

That is essentially the most fucked thing that happened in the history of the world

It is basically the equivalent of the bombing of Hiroshima and Nagasaki

Which is something I really want to drive home about in SSO. The Incineration is like

Fucked

[alpine jetty]

calamitas is actually just like that one oppenheimer speech

[faint totem]

That’s…cal evaporating a sea right

[tropic oak]

ye

[hot valve]

Yes

[spare pier]

Yeah

[faint totem]

I couldn’t remember

[hot valve]

I think a big difference is that it wasn’t instant but lasted quite a while, right?

[dusk laurel]

calamitas after genociding the fish people and then trying to sleep at night

[faint totem]

Yeah, it took a few days

[tropic oak]

i know you cant exactly see entirely burnt corpses but sea decoration of like schorched fish would drive it home some more i think

[hot valve]

Was it only days? I thought it was far longer, but I may just be misremembering

[tropic oak]

u want it to be fucked u better MAKE IT looked fucked

[faint totem]

Body horror!

[tropic oak]

burnt buildings, debris

da whole 9 yards

[spare pier]

It more or less was the end of the Crusade, because everyone was too fucking afraid to ever stand up against Yharim after that

He proved that if you piss him off enough

He'll just raze your nation to the ground

[alpine jetty]

is yharim racist to everybody or is it just gods and lizhards for some reason

[tropic oak]

LOL

GREAT QUESTION

[faint totem]

He’s a diviniphobe.

[dusk laurel]

yesnt

hes racist to anyone who follows the gods

and said gods

lihzarhds are a part of this group

[spare pier]

Yeah

[tropic oak]

🍦

[spare pier]

They just don't have a god anymore

[hot valve]

I'm kind of shocked that the incineration was the worst Yharim's ever concocted since he just seems so evil, I'd expect him to regularly do similar things

[tropic oak]

Maybe they should try reviving him thatll go well

[hot valve]

If not worse

[tropic oak]

[alpine jetty]

i’m guessing the incineration was on like

a massive scale

how big was the city

[hot valve]

Maybe Ilmeria was just unbashedly good that it really fucked with people

[spare pier]

It was more like half a sea

[dusk laurel]

it wasnt just the city

[alpine jetty]

how big is a sea like

relative

[spare pier]

You know the Mediterranea Sea?

[faint totem]

No! Bad!

[alpine jetty]

oh shit

[spare pier]

Yeah, half of that

At least

I think the ilmeran sea was around that size

[alpine jetty]

ok so he literally scorched a portion of the earth you can see from space

[tropic oak]

(write that down, write that down!)

[hot valve]

the mediterranean? holy shit lmao

[alpine jetty]

if it happened on earth you would literally see a hole

[spare pier]

Ok probably not half of it

[alpine jetty]

from space

LMAO

[dusk laurel]

like 1/3

[tropic oak]

1/3

Yeah

[dusk laurel]

that seems more reasonable

[alpine jetty]

still just a massive area tho

[spare pier]

Ok holy shit I forgot how big the mediterranean is

[tropic oak]

cause theres still a fair amount of sea left id figure

[dusk laurel]

rebecca.

[hot valve]

yeah it's like HUGE

[faint totem]

Big water is big yes

[spare pier]

Bro there are no good irl examples

[alpine jetty]

how many people like

died

[tropic oak]

maybe the marmara sea

??

[dusk laurel]

caspian sea?

[faint totem]

Black Sea?

[alpine jetty]

what is even the population of terraria

[tropic oak]

marmara sea is quite smallish-medium sized

i think its the smallest sea actually

[faint totem]

That fucker, this fucker, that fucker over there…

[dusk laurel]

we dont know we just know yharim likely caused half of it to die

[zenith geode]

not that much every since the crusade

[tropic oak]

lets go to the other continent guys

[faint totem]

Thanos ass auric hitler

[spare pier]

Ok I think the Black Sea is a good metric just let me check how big Turkey is

[faint totem]

Oh cool

[alpine jetty]

i was gonna say black sea fmcl

[dusk laurel]

turkey is like turkey sized i think

[zenith geode]

a snap of this auric gauntlet and half the lihzahrds die

[tropic oak]

i wanna go to da goblin continen t

make new friends……

[alpine jetty]

yea what is the. deal with that

[faint totem]

I don’t. I like having property

[dusk laurel]

permafrost and goblins are chill i think

[tropic oak]

Truth

[alpine jetty]

are we just on the only continent where interesting shit happens

[spare pier]

Ok nevermind Turkey is too big

[dusk laurel]

no

[faint totem]

Dang

[alpine jetty]

caspian sea

[tropic oak]

rebecca try the marmara sea

its the smallest sea

[faint totem]

Goblins are communists tho

[tropic oak]

its RIGHT next to turkey

i think

[hot valve]

Nah there's tons of gods in other continents that just aren't related to Calamity's story

[spare pier]

Marmara is way too small though

[hot valve]

And like, other things also

[spare pier]

Like

[dusk laurel]

maybe the aegean?

[hot valve]

advancing of tech, etc.

[tropic oak]

so times it by like 4

[spare pier]

I personally think Ilmeris was around the size of

Italy?

[dusk laurel]

dear cod

i cooka the fish

[spare pier]

Italy isn't that big is it?

[alpine jetty]

🐟

[zenith geode]

its pretty big

[faint totem]

It’s like DND. You don’t know everything going on in the forgotten realms, you just know what’s relevant to the plot

[tropic oak]

italy is like 300km long

[spare pier]

I think Ilmeris is like, 1.33x bigger than Portugal

[scenic yacht]

[zenith geode]

yeah thats a

[alpine jetty]

it’s actually decently close in size to the caspian sea

[zenith geode]

big difference

[spare pier]

Bro idk my size metric is SCUFFED

[zenith geode]

italy is ~300k sqkm

[stark basalt]

rebecca i think we need to work on your geography

[spare pier]

I LIVE IN BRAZIL LITERALLY ALL OF OUR STATES ARE BIGGER THAN PORTUGAL

[faint totem]

What the fuck is a metric. I’m American. I wish I wasn’t tho

[spare pier]

Except like, 2

[hot valve]

the black sea looks to me roughly italy sized in length i think

[alpine jetty]

no

black sea is way bigger

[spare pier]

Ok, you know what?

[alpine jetty]

not way but it’s quite a bit bigger

[spare pier]

I give up on seas

[zenith geode]

portugal is ~92k sqkm

[spare pier]

Let me look at Europe

[hot valve]

my quick google map search was fraudulent? impossible...

[faint totem]

Big water is big, don’t get what’s so hard to understand

[scenic yacht]

reb if ilmeris was the size of italy then cal is more destructive then a like a fusion bomb

[alpine jetty]

what is this shit

[spare pier]

Ok but then stretch that out over like, 3 weeks

Also gimme a few

[faint totem]

GET THAT FUCK ASS OFF MY SCREEN

[dusk laurel]

im headcanoning that ilmeris is pacific ocean sized

[scenic yacht]

i know it was three weeks but thats still an insane amount of energy to stretch over three weeks

[spare pier]

Bro there are NO INBETWEENS IN EUROPE

EITHER EVERYTHING IS TOO BIG OR TOO SMALL

[hot valve]

it says italy is 1175 km long and italy is 1185 km long...
althought the black sea also is like, way wider so it's area is far huger

[scenic yacht]

basically yeah

[faint totem]

Try America.

[alpine jetty]

america

[spare pier]

Fuck this shit I give up

[tropic oak]

like ohio or something

[hot valve]

How about Nova Scotia

[dusk laurel]

"fuck my chungus life"

[alpine jetty]

the point is tomake people take the incineration seriously and no one is taking it seriously if your go to comparison is it’s as big as ohio

[alpine jetty]

https://tenor.com/view/fuck-my-life-fuck-my-chungus-life-fmcl-fuck-my-disgusting-chungus-life-gif-5169174305907518527

[faint totem]

God I hate being American

[alpine jetty]

fuck

[zenith geode]

no embed perms </3

[spare pier]

I think Ilmeris was around 1.5x larger than Portugal and Calamitas burned 1/3 to 1/2 of it over 3 weeks to 1 month. These metrics are absolutely meaningless specially if they contradict prior statements but do with these what you will

I suck absolute ASS with numbers

[alpine jetty]

oh so it’s like the size of greece

[tropic oak]

id say less fusion bomb more (maybe) a couple smaller bombs

[dusk laurel]

what if cal was like bowser and got a bunch of henchmen to help her beat the ilmerans

[spare pier]

"Ilmeris was relatively big for a nation in Calamity because it encompassed a whole ass sea, but Calamitas also didn't burn all of it"

That's like

How I view it

[alpine jetty]

KOOPAS!!

[dusk laurel]

speaking of bowser, i love how a certain fish was given its name because reb thought a mario enemy was a real thing

[hot valve]

which Mario enemy

[spare pier]

The chances of these numbers being extremelly scuffed and leading to super fucked powerscaling are entirely real, and if they do completely disregard them

[dusk laurel]

podoboo

[hot valve]

wait, the lava bubble?

[spare pier]

Yup

I looked up "how are lava bubbles called?"

Found podoboo

[hot valve]

You thought it was real in what way

[spare pier]

Didn't realize it was a mario enemy

[hot valve]

Oh LOL

[tropic oak]

hey rebecca ive a question for you

[spare pier]

Shoot

[tropic oak]

totally unrelated to underwater society but

what about permafrost leaving yharim made yharim want to Fucking Kill Him like was it just protocol to kill anyone who tried to leave the army or was that shit personal or a combination of both

[spare pier]

I'm not the person behind writing either of those characters so I won't say anything

Ask Cei, she's the one doing so

[tropic oak]

worth a shot

[zenith geode]

killing deserters sounds like something he'd do

[hot valve]

that is a good question ngl
Reminds me of Loptrian cult in Fire Emblem where one of their greatest rules is that they won’t suffer a traitor

[spare pier]

Calamity is not my story so I can't bend the powerscale however I want because in all of my stories I just

[hot valve]

Anyone who tries to leave dies

[spare pier]

Think of every big show of power I want to have

And write the scale around those moments

[tropic oak]

what characters are you the writer of?

maybe i can center something more around that

[hot valve]

I think in permafrost’s case, he would be a powerful enemy/tactician so getting rid of him would be ideal

[tropic oak]

I do wonder if it were personal thing too, however

Perma has basically been there since the beginning

[spare pier]

Off the top of my head now, Otonilou, Providence and the Guardians are the only characters that are like

[hot valve]

Kill him before he becomes a bigger problem later but if it was some personal grudge that would be cool to know

[spare pier]

Basically 100% mine

[tropic oak]

ooo ive got a good two i think

[spare pier]

Tyrian too kinda but I don't count him because Cei came up with the original concept and the concept art had absolutely zero input from me

I just write his character

[tropic oak]

why did she slay the dragon of storms? and why is she considered a generally good leader?

[dusk laurel]

btw who wrote god of sacrifices

[high lynx]

Me

[spare pier]

Being real?

No one

[dusk laurel]

gulp

[high lynx]

Im no one

[spare pier]

GoS just has loosely stablished traits the team seems to agree upon

[high lynx]

Noone from little nightmares podcast

[spare pier]

Like, being 100% transparent right now, there's basically nothing about his character right now

We know the general direction we wanna go with him and his relevance to the story, but general intricacies there's very little

[tropic oak]

can you make him like vanilla wafers

[spare pier]

I would like to keep Otonilou's character generally under wraps until SSO is released

She's the only character in Cal who is like, actually basically 100% mine

[tropic oak]

worth a shot

[spare pier]

So I want to leave it up to people to see how she was executed

And judge her based on that, rather than the ideas I spewed here

[tropic oak]

she was executed?

[spare pier]

I mean how her character is executed

As in

The execution

[tropic oak]

yes i know im fucking with you

[spare pier]

Of her as a character

Ok fair

[tropic oak]

yeye

how open are you about providence

[spare pier]

Moreso, partially because I have been playing her in an RP and the way I make her there evidences a lot of her character

And I don't like keeping those aspects locked behind that server

And also the

Stupid fucking profaned cockroach

[tropic oak]

the wha t

[spare pier]

I hate this cockroach because for some reason I locked the fuck in writing its introduction

This is some of my best writing and it's FOR A MOTHERFUCKING PROFANED COCKROACH

[faint totem]

Excuse moi

[tropic oak]

evil

[dusk laurel]

profaned cockroach goes insanely hard

[tropic oak]

there doesn’t seem much to ask about providence given that we already know most of her it seems

not too sure what to discuss of her

[real silo]

Wtf you have?

Or is this a different rp

[spare pier]

Fuck are you asking?

Did you

Not realize I was playing Provi in the SSCLS RP?

[real silo]

oh wait

I thought you were talking about otonilou not providence

[spare pier]

Oh fair lol

[real silo]

Brain fart

[alpine jetty]

someone should draw a map of like the borders of terraria

like yharims forces and illumiknkhsh and stuff

[tropic oak]

id kill for a map

i keep forgetting to look into one

[heavy zenith]

Any way to apply to be on the lore team lmao?

I've fallen in love with it

[tropic oak]

i do not believe there is my friend

[eager bluff]

nope

[spare pier]

I'm not going to explain why I'm talking like this, but genuinely do not treat this seriously under any capacity

Reb has no fucking idea what she's talking about lmao

[spare pier]

To answer your question, sorry to announced that no

[split mortar]

ASHES

TGE PROFANED COCKROACH

[pliant ruin]

i was climbing a mountain and asked my guide for where we were, as i didn't know. he said:

"sscls roleplay profaned cockroach"

and that's when i knew we were at the peak.

[split mortar]

I wonder how many people are just fucking bewildered at this

Make lea canon

[hoary berry]

[split mortar]

Make profaned cockroach canon

[real silo]

HIS NAME IS SATYR!!!!!

[cosmic minnow]

Jjk cockroach but it’s actually a profaned enemy

[untold oracle]

True!

[split mortar]

Not as funny as profaned cockroach

[real silo]

you're not as funny

[wheat walrus]

Do you

[split mortar]

Omni scale boiling half the mediterranean sea /j

[crimson junco]

Profaned Cockroach in Calamity Mod?

[split mortar]

No its a profaned enemy in the sscls roleplay

[pliant ruin]

it will be in the calamity mod one day. surely.

[split mortar]

The fact the chance isnt 0 is fucking funny

[pliant ruin]

profaned cockroach will surely be added in the profaned update

itll just be a regular ass enemy to everyone else but the 5 people who Understand will rejoice and celebrate

[limpid saddle]

It'd be cool if there was a hardmode profaned miniboss or something

[crimson junco]

I need a cockroach enemy in Calamity Mod

no really

[split mortar]

Hopefully the profaned cockroach gets in then

[crimson junco]

giga buffed cockroach

[split mortar]

ASHES

[crimson junco]

the most vile enemy of all time

[pliant ruin]

GIVE ME THE FUCKING ASHES ‼️

[split mortar]

THE FUCKING ASHES

[cloud ibex]

From ashes to ashes, to ashes (to ashes)

[untold oracle]

Wtf i thought this was rp discussion

[split mortar]

Because ashes was mentioned so much?

[untold oracle]

Yeah..

[plucky lichen]

The nefarious profaned roach

[snow mountain]

HERE OF ALL PLACES i was not anticipating a deadbolt ref

[lapis depot]

what gods have DoG actually killed?

[cloud ibex]

Don’t think we know any specifics

[long bloom]

we don't know any specific ones

but he has killed some

[cloud ibex]

But I’d imagine he got some of them

[split mortar]

we have no specifics

[tropic oak]

more than likely a good handful

[lapis depot]

o

[tropic oak]

[lapis depot]

i would guess so

[split mortar]

DoG was still very useful cause the guy became the god essence dumpster even ignoring how monstrously powerful the guy is

[long bloom]

the most recent god we know got yharimed other than otonilou was probably silva
and she got thrown in the pool

[lapis depot]

ye

o

[tame sundial]

who’s Silva

I’m still a little behind on the lore

[cloud ibex]

Goddess of life

(Also elemental of nature)

[tame sundial]

and who are all the gods we know of

[thick slate]

a bunch

[split mortar]

Shakidou is the god of emptiness and the dragon is night now

[thick slate]

is true

[tame sundial]

How do yall know this info

[thick slate]

lore devs

[tame sundial]

Huh

[thick slate]

the lore developers

[tame sundial]

Ohh

do we know if the other gods are coming in which calamity update

[thick slate]

no gods will be added as bosses

if thats what ur wondering

[tame sundial]

Dang

[thick slate]

there is 1 more boss coming to calamity ever

[tame sundial]

Who?

[thick slate]

yharim

[tame sundial]

He’s the last boss right

[thick slate]

ya

[tropic oak]

forty bosses

i am John Misinformation

[tame sundial]

yharim no hit infernum

[thick slate]

infernum will not be updating

for yharim

the development for infernum has ended

[tame sundial]

Dang nabbit

that woulda been so fire

[thick slate]

i think yharim will be fire on its own

[tame sundial]

Without a doubt

[long bloom]

i'm just now realizing we could've gotten fabsolian yharim

dear lord

[tropic oak]

yharim will be very cool

[split mortar]

If the devs still want to work on calamity after yharim then xeroc will be another god we can fight

We wont kill them cause the power of the fucking sun is rather unmatched tho

[dusk laurel]

fighter ai yharim 🔥

[tame sundial]

There’s always something called god mode

[split mortar]

That doesnt mean you kill the guy the fight would be a spar

[tropic oak]

xeroc when i run him the fuck over in my Ford150

[long bloom]

driving in my car

[thick slate]

no

[long bloom]

:(

[loud fossil]

i swear to god if i hear that song one more time

[untold oracle]

Fighter ai

Dagmnait vanil was first

[sinful adder]

It would be really funny if there was a placeholder fighter AI yharim in the game for like 5 years while they do a bunch of other things

[real glen]

ughfhfh the pain

[split mortar]

Make the lorde the placeholder

[sinful adder]

Yeah that works too

[full comet]

I think

It would be funny if Yharim became an NPC

Similar to Calamitas

You just have the war crime king

The killer of Gods

...

Living in a box house like the rest

[cloud ibex]

nah he's dying

even if you tried to spare him he'd probably kill himself

[full comet]

Honestly would be an interesting interaction.

You attempt to spare him but after some dialogue

He just stabs himself

[snow mountain]

fortnite

[faint totem]

He’s too old for this.

[icy veldt]

I'd put him in prison, honestly

[split mortar]

Yharim can punch out sadly

[icy veldt]

Put him on a giant life support device that keeps him alive and unable to move or speak forever, and build a new civilization that worships Yharim as a god with crushingly totalitarian fervor

[mighty zenith]

put him in the totally safe capsule

[limpid saddle]

It'd be a great troll but it also means that they have to write dialouge & make a suicide animation

[full comet]

I mean that would be sick regardless.

Also would be an opportunity for a different weapon depending on what you choose

I can imagine the boss fight

You get him down to 1 HP and he falls down to the ground

You can either execute him or walk away

If you walk away you hear confusion

Anger

And then his regrets

And then he stabs himself

With an apology leaving his lips

The only thing he can truly give to the world he has ruined

[river python]

peak cinema

[limpid saddle]

Its maybe fun to think about but i dont really see the vision

[full comet]

Eh true

I can imagine Yharim doing a suicide as a way to preserve his dignity though

[limpid saddle]

I mean he spent a period of possibly a decade probably a bit less in a blood frenzy where he did nothing but pursue & kill Gods with no plan

I think he thinks he has dignity but ultimately doesnt

[spring plover]

lmfao

#yharimdidntkillhimself

[full comet]

To be fair, it's gotten to the point where he's probably hoping to die in battle

Dignity not necessarily being based on morality

But like the classic ye olde style of dignity

[sinful adder]

Yharim is completely incapable of believing he was ever in the wrong, and equally incapable of redemption. There are many people like this in the world.

[cloud ibex]

Iunno if he wants to as much as he’s fine with it

[limpid saddle]

Well he knows he can't kill Xeroc so he wants to find someone stronger than him who could

[cloud ibex]

Like ideally in his eyes he would probably survive but he’s perfectly content dying as a martyr to make you follow his footsteps

[full comet]

It's like John Wick.

He probably hopes that he'll die. But that doesn't mean that he won't give it is all

[limpid saddle]

So by beating him, not neccesarily killing him, he believes that would be evidence of your potential to slay Xeroc

[full comet]

His dialogue in the lore whispers always gives me the impression that he's passively suicidal tbh

Like he won't throw himself in front of the train

But if it happens accidentally he wouldn't mind it

I don't know if it's gonna change but all of the dialogue is like a man that's tired

Looking back on his mistakes with regret. He doesn't regret his main mission. Just the fuckery it caused.

But knowing that he will never take it back.

He doesn't deserve it anyways.

[limpid saddle]

Its a fair reading of the character thats for sure

But he's definetly gone through grief over his slow realisation he could not eclipse Xeroc, or even Noxus's strength

He's accepted his death as an inevitability but I don't think he has a desire to die

Say what you will but he is a man of conviction that believes in his bonds, despite how he has torn so many of them apart

Though in his mind, they were the ones to turn on him, yet Yharon was always at his side

[full comet]

I also think that, although I know vanilla lore isn't canon, that the player probably has a similar goal at least.

You're basically cleaning up either most of Yharim's worst mistakes

[tropic oak]

hiya

[full comet]

Or Gods that are just fucked

[limpid saddle]

THE TERRARIAN IS YOU

[full comet]

I KNOW SHUUSSSH

[limpid saddle]

POST THE IMAGE

[full comet]

[limpid saddle]

@split mortar

[full comet]

BUT IT'S LIKE HOW IT IS IN TERRARIA VANILLA

THE PLAYER CHARACTER IS ALSO YOU BUT YOU STILL HAVE THE GOAL OF DEFEATING THE MOON LORD

[limpid saddle]

thanks melon gun

[full comet]

NO MATTER HOW YOU DO IT. YOU'RE TECHNICALLY CLEANING UP YHARIM'S MISTAKES AND MALEVOLENT GODS

[split mortar]

You can have your terrarian not wanna kill yharim and just fuck off after beating scal

[full comet]

THAT'S WHAT THE BOSSES ARE

[limpid saddle]

Slime God isnt even fucked though they're just very lonely & frustrated

[full comet]

AAA-

[tropic oak]

not all bosses r bad doe

some of them just happen upon us, vice versa

[split mortar]

Shoutout to yharims mistake: moonlord

[limpid saddle]

i mean yharim, guy who killed all your friends, finally fucking leaves, you think you're free, then some dumbass appears & is growing more rapidly powerful & threatening your existence again?

[full comet]

Oh yeah.

The Slime God certainly exists

[limpid saddle]

Wouldn't you be pissed & spurned to attack?

Especially when Yharim is whispering sweet nothings in said persons ear every other day?

[full comet]

Honestly I count the Hunt of the Old God AKA Goozma Mod as canon.

But that's more personal headcanon

So

Idk why I said this

I just like goozma

[split mortar]

I dont on the basis goozma counts as like a fucking planet in that due to forming an auric soul out of nothing

[split mortar]

Goozma os sick as fuck in that mod ngl

[full comet]

I just like the idea that the slime god is merely a shard of a much larger slime entity

So to speak

[limpid saddle]

???

[split mortar]

Slime god wasnt always a slime

[full comet]

I SAID I LIKE THE IDEA I DON'T MEAN IT'S TRUE SHU

[limpid saddle]

Yeah the Auric Soul of Gluttony became the God Soul of Slime

[dense lynx]

Do what did its body melt or smth?

[limpid saddle]

There isnt like a consistent basis for slime as a domain

[full comet]

mmm slime

[split mortar]

The guy was completely humanoid and sapient pre ascension and then slime soul glooped the guy

[limpid saddle]

Not neccesarily, we dont really know how the transformation worked

[dense lynx]

Did its remains become slime?

[full comet]

Either way Goozma is canon to me and IDC what anybody says

[limpid saddle]

In the rework design we see a pretty normal looking eye so she might not be 100% slime

[full comet]

That aside, Slime God is probably one of my favorites

In my opinion

In terms of like bosses

For Terraria Calamity

Idk I just think it's cool

[full comet]

Also doesn't it technically die fully when you kill queen slime?

I remember that being said

[limpid saddle]

That is current canon but its being changed in the progression rework methinks

cause like isnt slime-god getting tiered up to hardmode or something

[full comet]

Honestly it would be interesting if it appears later as some type of NPC since it runs away

[split mortar]

Yeah calclone and sg switch

Not confirmed

But is possible

[full comet]

Damn bro that cloning program fucking sucks

[limpid saddle]

uh no we're gonna beat her to death

[full comet]

Damn

[split mortar]

Nah draedon cloned scal perfectly

Magic isnt genetic

[limpid saddle]

im gonna beat you to death

[split mortar]

So the genetic clone didnt get any of scals power

[full comet]

Yeah fair.

Still funny though.

"DRAEDON WHY THE FUCK IS SHE PRE HARDMODE TIER"

"IDK MAGIC ISN'T GENETIC DUMBASS"

"FICK YOU I'M LEAVING."

[limpid saddle]

Oh btw she was actually cloned after Dreadon left the Yharmy

[full comet]

Makes sense.

Wait

Oh

I read it

Damn Yharim sucks at cloning

[limpid saddle]

Yharim gave the order to 'recreate the witches power' but he only followed up on it after

[full comet]

[icy veldt]

I thought Cal herself broke into Draedon's lab and gave a bit of her magic to her clone, or is that no longer a thing?

[split mortar]

Yharim asked draedon to replicate her power
Plague incident
Draedon clones her due to replicating scal

[full comet]

Oh

[split mortar]

Scal did break the clone out and the clone did get magic after that yes

Scal sponge theory standing strong

[full comet]

I know the Calamitias Eye is probably gonna be erased from the face of the earth sooner or later.

But I am gonna miss that sprite.

[limpid saddle]

That did happen, there was some kind of transfer, but it seems both mentally & spiritually the psychologically under-developed clone was unable to handle or take in as much brimstone as Scal could

[full comet]

Idk why

I just think of that sprite whenever I think

"Calamity"

[full comet]

"Subject C-052. I command you to eat these molten rocks now."

I'm also imagining Calamitas and Draedon having an argument during that whole incident also

"What did you do to the clone?"

"I just gave her a bit of magic. Y'know? To be like me."

"Bro you pumped her with enough brimstone to blow up a mountain."

[icy veldt]

Mentally, spiritually, and perhaps medically/genetically? Depending on how well or poorly she was cloned, she might be either burning up or held together (most likely the former) by that magic

[full comet]

"Yeah just a little!"

[split mortar]

Calclone is a perfect genetic clone

[full comet]

"That's like saying 'Just a little bit of drugs' before giving a 3 year old a blunt."

"Well then she isn't a perfect clone of me then."

"Get THE FUCK OUT OF MY LA-"

[split mortar]

Cloning genetically is possible irl already why would fucking draedon skill issue it

[full comet]

Idk maybe Calamitas's DNA is fucked due to her being so filled with magic

[limpid saddle]

???

These theories make no sense

[split mortar]

Magic is stored in the bones not peoples cancer cells

[full comet]

Hey who knows wtf magic does

It's magic

[icy veldt]

Clones IRL don't work as well as natural lifeforms, due to the telomeres (spare DNA that's clipped off due to how cell replication works) being shorter, so I think Draedon probably found a workaround

[limpid saddle]

As I see it, Calamitas was able to take in that much Brimstone because she actually had a will, a want to protect her home, avenge her family, Calamitas Clone has nothing

[split mortar]

We know it isnt cancer

[icy veldt]

Magic is stored in the bladder

[split mortar]

No its confirmed the bones

[icy veldt]

Oh dang

[limpid saddle]

She is a hollow void mind, suddenly filled with the agonizing pain of brimstone & the shattered memories of a dozen dead loved ones (i believe this because otherwise how would the constructs exist) & she couldnt take it

[full comet]

I honestly thought of it as a combo of that and

"This person has lived through experiences and also got a mentor to help her develop magic. The clone just got pumped full of the stuff with either zero knowledge or only cold knowledge downloaded by Draedon."

[icy veldt]

Me omw to steal Cal's skeleton

[split mortar]

Scal had no mentor before azafure burned

[full comet]

Wasn't Permafrost a mentor though?

[limpid saddle]

Well no she didnt have Permafrost before getting doped up on Brimstone Elemental juice

[split mortar]

Yeah after azafure

[limpid saddle]

She had her brothers but that was it

[full comet]

Ah

[limpid saddle]

Upon her getting her powers she had a dead family & a will to kill

[split mortar]

She was just a poor young person before the brimmy incident

[full comet]

Yeah probably the will explanation then

[icy veldt]

What was her name before she was known as Calamitas?

[split mortar]

We dunno

[cloud ibex]

_ _

[limpid saddle]

we dont know & we're never gonna know

[full comet]

Jane Calamitas

[split mortar]

Its functionally replaced her real name even in universe

[limpid saddle]

I dont know why her name isnt just Calamitas but the writers said it isnt so

[icy veldt]

Must be really embarassing

[balmy glacier]

i should take calamitas’ path and burn a continent to the ground