lore-discussion

[limpid saddle]

Calamitas Clone?

[fast pond]

yes

[limpid saddle]

That was after Dreadon left & PBG was released

[split mortar]

Cal clone is after draedon got kicked out

[fast pond]

then Goliath first and then Cal clone?

[limpid saddle]

Yes

Though Dreadon recieved the orders that led to CC's creation during his stay with Yharim's Army but after Calamitas left

[fast pond]

thx a bunch

[limpid saddle]

He came back to it like a pet project because he wanted to recreate her Brimstone Flames to make a better furnace

[fast pond]

and to build Apollo

yea

[limpid saddle]

Oh Exo stuff was after CalClone

[split mortar]

Exos started quite a bit after but did succeed in rivalling scal

[limpid saddle]

🐌

[fast pond]

yes ik, plasma flame from Apollo was created based on Cal's flame iirc

[split mortar]

Replacing all your sugar with flour

[limpid saddle]

Good thing i dont bake alot

[split mortar]

Apollo actually rivals scal in heat

[fast pond]

oh it's not based on

[real glen]

it is time to use your headcanons folks

[split mortar]

I feel like we have official art of vetrasyl somewhere

[pliant ruin]

We do yeah

stip has posted it before

Hes like furry

[young socket]

@cosmic zenith we need your child.

[gritty kraken]

dragon of life got green brown and some yellow in my mind

[pliant ruin]

dragon of life is a giant bacteria

h

[gritty kraken]

Imagined them as a chameleon looking thing

[young socket]

o btw is the god of sacrifices art finished?

[split mortar]

Dragon of life is a virus

[split mortar]

@dusk laurel

[dusk laurel]

no

[young socket]

o oki

[fast pond]

are there any official arts of those dragons? except for Yharon ofc

[gritty kraken]

Clearly dragon of night use distortion colors

[young socket]

when its finished we need to remember to ping lilac about it to add it to the imgur gallery

[split mortar]

Vetrasyl and zeratros might? I do know both had designs being developed but idk if public

[fast pond]

[pliant ruin]

Vetra is public p sure

[gritty kraken]

Was zeratos in xeroc beatboxing meme official or fanmade

[pliant ruin]

Dunno abt john zeratros

[young socket]

fanmade iirc

[gritty kraken]

Good to know

[fast pond]

speaking of dragons, how did the slime god took the essence from Gluttony dragon

I mean

it's a slime

[split mortar]

Gluttony dragon was a weak dragon

[split mortar]

No

[gritty kraken]

Clearly the dragon ate too much and exploded then the dude found that

[split mortar]

Soime god wasnt a slime pre ascension

It was a sapient humanoid being

Ascending just kinda did that to it

[fast pond]

oh so ascending turns a person to a completely diff form

[split mortar]

It can sometimes
Providence was also a humanoid sapient being

We know of times when it hasnt tho

Could be completely different or you could be barely touched

[fast pond]

hmm

cool

[fast pond]

lmao I like that thought

[cosmic zenith]

Vetrasyl's design is almost done

https://www.reddit.com/r/CalamityMod/s/z8xOlA26hn

This is the last full design shared

It has changed a bit since then

[young socket]

thank

[real glen]

wo

[cosmic zenith]

As a more up-to-date face, here's a Vetrasyl pfp I used for a while; it was made by Mackerdoni, the same artist who is making the concept art

Naturally, don't share around or use it without their permission

[cosmic zenith]

Work on Zeratros' design has been stagnant for a good while

[river python]

Hi my beloveds

[real silo]

Fella

The zigzag tail is very funny

[hushed jasper]

Do we know the names of anyone else?

[real glen]

Other than Zera, Yhar, and Vetra
unfortunately no

[hushed jasper]

Do we know who took their auric souls?

[dusk laurel]

yeah

yharon no

because hes still alive

[deft vessel]

Who is the dragon of night, I haven’t heard of bro

[split mortar]

Dragon of gravity changed

[long bloom]

there are currently 5 unnamed gods and 8 unnamed dragons

lmao

[deft vessel]

Ic

[hushed jasper]

Ah ok

[split mortar]

Shakidou is now god of emptiness

[dusk laurel]

zeratros -> xeroc
vetrasyl -> otonilou

[pliant ruin]

I think the only dragon we literally do not know by who they were absorbed is

frost

everyone else has a associated god

[split mortar]

Except yharon

[pliant ruin]

yeah because hes not dead

well

[long bloom]

yep you're right

[real glen]

Lore writers we need NAMES

[pliant ruin]

not Dead dead

[real glen]

🙏 🙏

[pliant ruin]

dragon of gluttonys name was galongus or something

gloomborf

can he be called gloomborf please

he seems like a gloomborgf

dragon of flame was called ridley metroid because thats literally what he is

[long bloom]

how dare you spread such misinformation
your grave will be as shallow as your lies

[pliant ruin]

what misinformation

im speaking the truth

dragon of gluttony 100% seems like a gloomborf

[dusk laurel]

[split mortar]

Its canon imo

[young socket]

pondering my egg

[dusk laurel]

im glad i somehow guessed this was supposed to be an egg

[crimson junco]

No one glads

[pliant ruin]

lore devs make dragon of gluttonys name gloomborf and my life is yours

[dusk laurel]

im glad im able to cook you into a vile stew

[crimson junco]

😭

[split mortar]

Im sending the snail after you

[dusk laurel]

isnt lea french

[split mortar]

You know what snail im sending

[dusk laurel]

i can just use her to eat the snail

[pliant ruin]

all jokes aside i imagine dragon of flames name being like
Dragthor or Arzher or something like that like your typical medieval dragon type name

Smaug type stuff

Specially because im pretty sure dragon of flame is like as traditional dragon as it gets

The names i gave were really sloppy and just the first thing i thought off but yg wim

[deft vessel]

Smh doesn’t start with v,w,x,y,z

[north wigeon]

you're telling me it's not called the Great King of Evil Ganondorf??

[pliant ruin]

Honestly for me i just picture dragon of flame looking like your usual medieval dragon with like really big demonic looking horns and maybe like a trail of flames running down his bakc

[long bloom]

trogdor

[pliant ruin]

Like to me Dragon of Flame would be a design where it wouldnt like

try to innovate too much or be super unqiue or anything

itd just be a regular ass dragon but a really fucking awesome looking regular ass dragon

like in the awesome flaming blue skull way

[north wigeon]

what if it idk was completely made of flame

[long bloom]

i think that's basically what lore writers have said

[north wigeon]

as the kooky twist

[pliant ruin]

like i think dragon of flame is just this image

[dusk laurel]

😭

[pliant ruin]

hes the one guy you can really just go
nah man just make him edgy and shit

[cosmic zenith]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/711268703991365642/1394513783979769978/image0.gif

[pliant ruin]

Like he's just a big ass scary evil mean dragon that breathes fire he is literally The Traditional Bad Guy

[long bloom]

guys is this confirmation

[cosmic zenith]

I was brainstorming some names for Dragons the other day

[spring helm]

g

[cosmic zenith]

Only got progress on the Life Dragon

[pliant ruin]

honestly with how nuanced most calamity villains are, even Yharim and Providence having depth behind their deplorable actions

Dragon of flame might be a fun way to liek just have a bad guy

Like hes just bad bc idk its fun

fun and game 👍

[spring helm]

Life Dragon name?

Avlis

[long bloom]

🔥 ✍️

[pliant ruin]

Given dragon of gluttony is like really weak and pathethic and also like gluttony so i assume hes round and fat i think Gloomborf is a good name for him

[cosmic zenith]

I ended up with Raelvanna
Though I'll think about the names more

[pliant ruin]

It's a silly soft sounding name

[dusk laurel]

Nohray

[pliant ruin]

I can probably think of others though

like...

[north wigeon]

Norway?

[dusk laurel]

yes

[pliant ruin]

Ok itll be hard to top Gloomborf i think i peaked with that one

[long bloom]

one second

[cosmic zenith]

I live in Norway without the Nory

[pliant ruin]

It sounds silly while still having that fantasy name aspect to it and not just being like

glog

[cosmic zenith]

Gloomborf is a peak name....

As to the Flame Dragon

[north wigeon]

I think you peaked with Glog tbh

[cosmic zenith]

Rhymes with Grug

[long bloom]

reb's thoughts

[pliant ruin]

LETS GO HES NAMED DRUG

🙏

[dusk laurel]

drub

[pliant ruin]

dragon of flame was actually a crack cocaine seller and thats why providence hated him

providencre is girono giovanna

but evil

[north wigeon]

dragon of flame and 420 blazeit 🔥

I can legally say that now that MLG is once more a thing

[pliant ruin]

Ngl i just picture him as a fatass lizard

With like tiny non functional wings

This but you give him the tiny wings of that one round HTTYD dragon

[real silo]

In one of my dragon of death brain blasts I wanted to rename him to Akhathos

From Saprothos

[north wigeon]

like the fucken thing from the dnd movie

yeah

[real silo]

Since the fungus theming didn't make sense for his name specifically

[cosmic zenith]

It depends on what you consider "pure evil"
You can empathize with him on some level but he has a glaring character flaw that is never resolved and makes him a douchebag

[real silo]

This still means nothing it's just a reference to one of my favorite villains

[cosmic zenith]

Akato son of Yharon real

[real silo]

I knew someone would say that....

[pliant ruin]

I mean honestly literally everyone on calamity has some sort of emphathethic trait to them and i feel like thats probably intentional and i feel realistic

[north wigeon]

is the Flame Dragon's motive pre-eated provi 2?
see the world in ash n allat

[pliant ruin]

It'd just be nice to have a villain who dosen't have super complex motives like providence or yharim though

Like they're evil as fuck but they have these whole ass ideologies behind their actions

[cosmic zenith]

I remember backreading a conversation in SSCLS where people were calling Umbrasyl from Critical Role "Vetrasyl's evil twin"

You do realize Vetrasyl's name came from there right

[long bloom]

lol

[cosmic zenith]

If anything Vetra is the good twin

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah

Flame Dragon is just

Hubris go brrrrr

[pliant ruin]

me when i have to burn down a town because im bored

[long bloom]

me when i have to burninate the countryside

[split mortar]

Ah damn im bored time to triple the orphans

[pliant ruin]

I do like how i dont think a single character in calamity can be described as pure evil though except maybe the distortion bullshit but even then we don't reallyk now much

I think that's good and alligns with the narrative themes the story is trying to tell

[real silo]

Dragon of flame's name is straight up Fire

Guy named Fire

[long bloom]

provi is still pure evil even though she has complex motives

[cosmic zenith]

Flamme the Flame Dragon

[real silo]

Yes

[pliant ruin]

No provi isn't pure evil

She's evil

[real silo]

It's perfect

[pliant ruin]

but pure evil is like. just a evil being. no humanity or empathethic traits or anything

[real silo]

And frieren the frost dragon

[pliant ruin]

Like pure evil is idfk the blight from zelda

[dusk laurel]

same braincell

[pliant ruin]

malice

that thing

yeah

[long bloom]

agony fnaf

[north wigeon]

holy shit lois Guy Fieri is the Flame Dragon??

[pliant ruin]

All of the villainous characters in calamity have traits that show to you how they reached the mindset they have now and how they might've not always been this way and even if people like provi or yharim are deplorably evil you can tell they're still more than just that

[cosmic zenith]

Oh my God, one third of Flamme's gifs are her staring into the sunset as a little girl 🥹

[pliant ruin]

you can have evil ass mfers while not making them shallow

[cosmic zenith]

Yeah

[pliant ruin]

it's analogous to real life too id say

people are never born evil

[cosmic zenith]

People praise Jack Horner for being "pure evil" because he has no motivations for doing evil when
Lol, no

[pliant ruin]

Jack Horner is just comically evil that's like his entire shtick

[north wigeon]

what are the dragons' motives and personalities anw
I assume they must be released alr if everything so far assumes that knowledge

[pliant ruin]

I mean i assume it's the same as the gods

Different dragons have different goals

Flame we know was a pretty bad guy

[long bloom]

the only thing we know about 90% of dragons is that they exist

[pliant ruin]

Vetrasyl we know was a pretty good guy

John Dragon of Death we know was a pretty guy

We udnno much about the specifics

Most dragons are dcomically underdeveloped atm

[cosmic zenith]

He has a motivation
He's hoarding the world's magic because it's the one thing that he doesn't have and it matters more than anything to him
Which is why he so trivially sidelines his privileged upbringing
The thing isn't that he has no motives, it's that he actively chooses evil as the way to purpose his objectives - not out of necessity, but just preferring evil

[long bloom]

my favorite calamity character is the dragon of the sea

wait do we even know its domain yet

i don't think we do

[dusk laurel]

no

[pliant ruin]

jack horner isnt the most complex character but he works super well not because of his lack of motivation or anything but its because hes Hilarious with how comically evil he is + Presence

[dusk laurel]

we just know that tyrian got his auric soul from somewhere

[pliant ruin]

dragon of brazil flood water

[split mortar]

No we only know of the god of sea but not the dragons domain

[cosmic zenith]

It's generally hard to develop Dragons when most have been dead for centuries and their personality can only be conveyed through observation or through paraphrasing by attuned individuals

[north wigeon]

ah yes, the difference of a villain and a super one
PRESENTATION

[spring helm]

Dragon of The Yellow River Flooded Again

[cosmic zenith]

EXACTLY

[pliant ruin]

Yeah

[cosmic zenith]

There is Vetrasyl content in SSO though ;)

[long bloom]

pog

[pliant ruin]

YAY

[split mortar]

Makes sense otonilou did absorb the guy

[pliant ruin]

I think out of all the dragons we dont have names on currently john flames is probably the one i feel weill get the most development

[long bloom]

oh absolutely

[pliant ruin]

not only was he absorbed by arguably the most prominent god besides xeroc himself but also his role as just a fucked up evil bastard is one that is definitely worth dwelling into

[deft vessel]

End game time travel where you get to fight them

[spring helm]

“Oh yes, the dragons were all very different individuals with their own complex histories and personalities. In fact, [several paragraphs of explanations for each dragon].”

“Okay so how do we convey that in-game when they’ve been dead for centuries before Yharim started his Crusade?”

“Uhhhhhhhhhhhhhh”

[pliant ruin]

plus also he's like the traditional evil flame breathing medieval dragon you can't NOT develop him in a story with such a big focus on dragons cmon

[real silo]

Dream boss no way

[crimson junco]

Future bosses

[real silo]

No it'd be past bosses

Sillywhite

[pliant ruin]

ok cheese prediction

[deft vessel]

[split mortar]

Calamity addon that adds lore characters for us to fight

[north wigeon]

yea the ingame storytelling is very not there

[pliant ruin]

dragons ranked in terms of how much narrative relevance they'll have and how much info we'll get on them

[split mortar]

Fist fight zeratros

[pliant ruin]

1. yharon
2. zeratros
3. vetrasyl
4. flame
5. death
6. life
7. gluttony Gloomborf.
8. frost

this is the cheese predictions

actually let me fix it

[spring helm]

I forgot frost lmao

[split mortar]

DEVS LET ME FIST FIGHT ZERATROS

[dusk laurel]

dragon of frost when i use it to freeze an evil island of a sea of sulphur in time

[pliant ruin]

Fixed it.

[real silo]

Since dragon of life is raelvanna can we name dragon of death varma

Vaema

[long bloom]

velma

[real silo]

Vaema dragon of death

[split mortar]

Die

[real silo]

Not velma

Stupid stupid velma

[pliant ruin]

https://tenor.com/view/war-vietnam-ptsd-shell-shock-moment-gif-3022747568394546158

[dusk laurel]

summoning vaema to cause the roaring

[crimson junco]

Who's vaema

[real silo]

The roaring knight

[pliant ruin]

can we name dragon of death heathcliff and hes like. CATHERINE WHERE ARE YOU and then he fucking dies thats y hes death

sorry the song just started playing on my playlist so the rot took over

[real silo]

Dragon of death is named oppenheimer

Because he is become death the destroyer of worlds

[dusk laurel]

patches of violet

[pliant ruin]

:truthduke:

dude wen eed

truth duke emoji

in calmain

get the duke egg emoji and like add the True... thing under it

we need that

[dusk laurel]

[north wigeon]

is this stupid egg even part of duke atp

[pliant ruin]

i think its nuclear terror .

😭

[dusk laurel]

no its nuclear terror

[split mortar]

No its nuclear terror

[pliant ruin]

honestly that

[north wigeon]

right

[pliant ruin]

that makes it funnier

[split mortar]

This is nuclear terror btw

[north wigeon]

ye ik what nuclear terror looks like

[crimson junco]

Old Duke has nothing

[north wigeon]

does that monstrosity seriously come from the sphere

[crimson junco]

Forever a mystery

[dusk laurel]

you have nothing

[pliant ruin]

its like an egg

[crimson junco]

You mad at me because I say truth 😢

[pliant ruin]

the egg attaches itself to like a guy

and then the creature from the egg hatches

inside the guy

and the guy gets deformed into that

[north wigeon]

thanks guy

[spring helm]

I need one of the dragons to just be named John

[pliant ruin]

yeah nuclear terror is the guy

[spring helm]

John dragon

John auric

[pliant ruin]

john sacrifices

[real silo]

Dragon of moderation

[pliant ruin]

my beloved

[real silo]

Need a name for gos....

And gob...

[spring helm]

What the frick

[real silo]

And dod

[north wigeon]

dragon of "oh mods"

[split mortar]

What

[real silo]

And whatever dragon gob came from

[pliant ruin]

ive just been calling gos john sacrifices thats just who he is to me

[real silo]

That is what he is

[long bloom]

mhm

[spring helm]

That thing needs some ibuprofen

[pliant ruin]

gob?

god of

biscuits

[real silo]

boob

blood

[pliant ruin]

oh

oh ok

[long bloom]

specifically boob blood?

[dusk laurel]

typotraxia

[real silo]

no

[long bloom]

no other blood?

[split mortar]

God of bass

[north wigeon]

oddly specific no?

[dusk laurel]

god of blood

[icy veldt]

God of bees

[north wigeon]

this is good news

[crimson junco]

You're finished

[spring helm]

Auric soul of Boob

[crimson junco]

It's over for u

[icy veldt]

Yharim: *confused noises*

[long bloom]

this sounds like a medical condition

[dusk laurel]

[faint totem]

Sounds more like a medicine

[real silo]

it's called boo blood

Scary stories

I thought of bloodboy's origin domain and I came up with dragon of healing

Dragon of forcing you to chug 15 healing potions

Realistically this dragon will never exist whether in canon or the nefarious r*leplay

It's fun to think about though

[pliant ruin]

Does it only move towards you while youre not looking at it

[real silo]

It will appear in your brain when you least expect it

It has no patterns

It leads you to believe it follows a trend, only to veer off course right as you think you've figured it out

Stay vigilant

You will never know its next move

[crimson junco]

EoC AI

[spring helm]

Yeah?

[young socket]

g

[plucky lichen]

Added to the game when??

[inner surge]

So, I recently recorded a reading of one of the lore items, and I was hoping to ask someone from the Calamity team for their opinion. Basically, I want to voice all of them (as a kind of fanart), so I was hoping to get either a hard-line “no; don’t do that” or someone’s blessing. How can I do that?

[faint totem]

@prime mauve

[prime mauve]

I am not a good person to ask idk

[faint totem]

Oh.

@spare pier

[split mortar]

Doze is not a lore writer

[faint totem]

Who is

Oh Rebecca is

[split mortar]

Cei, stip, rebecca and maybe ozzatron

[faint totem]

I’m not @ing ozz. I’m not THAT crazy

I think

[scenic olive]

Nuclear flesh and blood and green stuff

[split mortar]

Its wings are lungs btw

[scenic olive]

Is it like

An inside out lungs

[split mortar]

Idk

[faint totem]

What in the body horror

[split mortar]

Nuclear terror

Emphasis on the terror

[faint totem]

@spare pier

[faint totem]

Nice

[spare pier]

Go ahead, that sounds awesome

[inner surge]

While I’m here, the recording I did: https://www.reddit.com/r/CalamityMod/s/Hs76iTtJzC

[faint totem]

HOLY FUCKING SHIT THAT GOES HARD

I’m not even exaggerating, that gave me similar vibes to draedon’s speech

[pliant ruin]

thats pretty cool

reminds me of a buddy of mine whos into voice actging

[faint totem]

I think I’m personally alright at voices, but I’m definitely not a voice actor. I can mostly just control my pitch, I can’t do like, accents

[sinful adder]

Wow nuclear terror is actually a terror now

[limpid saddle]

I dont think it wasnt a terror before but yeah it'd pretty freaky now

I've mentioned it 17 times already but I love how the wings look like a psychadelic oil spill

[split mortar]

Lungs not wings

[limpid saddle]

fucked up lungs

[long bloom]

indeed

[sinful adder]

Yeah that sure does look crazy and fucked up and gory

[untold oracle]

WHAT THE FUCK

[limpid saddle]

Oh they updated the sprite too

[limpid saddle]

You didnt know?

This version of the designs existed for I wanna say 2 months?

[untold oracle]

I havent seen it before 😭

[split mortar]

Those “wings” are its lungs btw

[limpid saddle]

can it flap them back & forth

[dusk laurel]

deltaw i dont think youve touched cst in like a year so yeah

[split mortar]

We dunno

[untold oracle]

I dont interact with calmain like at all

Except when i spread the rot

[mighty zenith]

they werent lyin

that nuclear sure is terror

[fresh vessel]

I wish there was a movie of calamity/terraria

Like an animated movie showing basically everything like an almost 2 hour movie

[mighty zenith]

ngl it would be really difficult to fit in an entire playthrough into 2 hours

the pacing would be horrendous

[fresh vessel]

maybe a series instead?

[split mortar]

Imo the perspective of like yharim would do better then terrarian

[mighty zenith]

if there ever was outside media for calamity then it shouldn't be about the terrarian

not even yharim

just like,

other parts of the world

different protagonists

that connect to the main plot

statis and braelor comics a la quirrel prequel comics

[split mortar]

Side stories of what ifs like embers

[fresh vessel]

i would atleast want to see dragons fight fovos/moonlord and xeroc as a monk visiting zeratos and more

[mighty zenith]

a way to show off the rest of the world and how yharim's bullshit affected it

[fresh vessel]

a series would be possible but pulling off the part of the terrarian killing bosses would be interesting and maybe should be skipped

[split mortar]

Xeroc visiting zeratros shouldnt happen imo
Let it be mysterious

[fresh vessel]

just the part of all the things unfold like zeratos dying and xeroc taking his powers or whatever

[fresh vessel]

but its a core part of the lore

xeroc has 2 visual versions of him made, the nameless deity version and then the version with the rainbow wings

so it would be kinda weird to choose

[split mortar]

Neither are official or canon

[limpid saddle]

Nameless isnt canon

[fresh vessel]

yep

[split mortar]

And one of them is no longer old lore xeroc

[limpid saddle]

We can have monk Xeroc, it'd be cool to see more of that design because it goes hard

[fresh vessel]

oh i thought xeroc was

[mighty zenith]

if there was a series then showing the original events of the draconic era would be a good prologue

[limpid saddle]

But revealing the truth of Xeroc & Zeratro's final moments would be lame

[split mortar]

Xeroc is canon

[mighty zenith]

not showing exactly what happens but visualizing it

[fresh vessel]

i think the same, i wish for more but i want atleast the draconic era

[fresh vessel]

oh you meant the visuals like what xeroc looks like

[split mortar]

Yeah

[long bloom]

nothing from wotg is canon

[fresh vessel]

the calamity lore is partially abit confusing Midnight minute has made lore videos and from those i have learned most of it

[long bloom]

don't trust videos

almost all of them are abject bullshit

[split mortar]

Theres a doc with all ingame lore in the pins of this channel

[fresh vessel]

he has made a sources video too

[split mortar]

Midnight minute is prob the most reliable of them

[long bloom]

noted

[limpid saddle]

Generally dont go to youtube for calamity lore

[fresh vessel]

im glad someone else knows him lol

[limpid saddle]

Alot of it is outdated because none of it is from us

[split mortar]

Its how i got into calamity lore

[limpid saddle]

The real calamity lore afficionados

[fresh vessel]

wheter midnight minute has made a perfect lore of calmaity it doesnt matter THAT much because he has packed it into a story the best way it is possible

[limpid saddle]

I mean it kinda does if he's missing crucial information & getting things wrong

Ok, i'll know if he knows by asking you this

Who is Shakidou?

[fresh vessel]

havent watched his whole lore video yet

only watched a part of it and came here for more insight

[long bloom]

bruh

[fresh vessel]

came here to learn about the lore from other people

[limpid saddle]

ok so you dont know who Shakidou is

[fresh vessel]

so i wouldnt get completely confused

[fresh vessel]

no i dont know who they are

[long bloom]

they're the god of emptiness

[fresh vessel]

i do want to know

[limpid saddle]

Used to be the God of Geometrical space, got retconned

[fresh vessel]

oh by that name i know but isnt he wotg so not canon?

[split mortar]

Thats avatar of emptiness

Not god of emptiness

[fresh vessel]

someone said anything in wotg isnt canon

[limpid saddle]

They were the second strongest God, before they were slain by Yharim

[limpid saddle]

Yeah what melon said you're thinking of avatar

[fresh vessel]

ohh sorry

[limpid saddle]

Two completely different characters

[long bloom]

is it a retcon if it was never added

[limpid saddle]

Shakidou & Avatar, no correlation

[limpid saddle]

[fresh vessel]

sounded so similiar i got confused i apologise

[long bloom]

yeah that was me

nothing from any addons are canon

[fresh vessel]

yep i got confused with avatar and god of empt

[long bloom]

only stuff in the base mod and some dev statements here are canon

[fresh vessel]

im jsut a bit confused since xeroc is canon but xeroc is also in wotg

[long bloom]

yeah idk why they did that

[fresh vessel]

but with a different name but same backstory apparently

[split mortar]

Xeroc isnt in worg

[mighty zenith]

yea the main issue is he takes everything at face value pretty much

[limpid saddle]

Also different backstory

[fresh vessel]

nameless deity is xeroc isnt it?

[mighty zenith]

nope

[long bloom]

not anymore i don't think

[limpid saddle]

They used to be, now they're two completely different characters

no corellation

[split mortar]

Not anymore after the update that added avatar
-# plus nameless was based on old scrapped plans anyways

[fresh vessel]

that explains, judge me what i say but i saw a video title "nameless deity/xeroc complaining about noxus spray" and from that part i thought they are same thing but they changed it

[limpid saddle]

Thats fair

Dont trust anything you see on calamity youtube

basically all of it is disinformation

[split mortar]

Yt vids are known to lie for views

[limpid saddle]

informed or not

[mighty zenith]

we need to kill mura

[fresh vessel]

yep, the reason i came here is to get better insight

[fresh vessel]

who is mura

[long bloom]

a sloptuber

[mighty zenith]

the guy that made that video

[limpid saddle]

A modded terraria youtuber known for clickbait

[split mortar]

@fresh vessel heres the doc

[real glen]

Is this 🐬 moment again

[limpid saddle]

particularly around calamity expansions

[mighty zenith]

im convinced he's like, the main reason why so many ppl call nameless xeroc

[fresh vessel]

can i send a youtube link here?

[mighty zenith]

go ahead

[fresh vessel]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xPbfo0nClyg

the title is why i got confused

[sinful adder]

Yeah. YouTubers are liars

[mighty zenith]

oh thats another video

[fresh vessel]

xeroc/nameless deity and since i didnt know about much lore at that time i got confused

[sinful adder]

Calamity YouTubers specifically

[mighty zenith]

even disabled comments so ppl cant correct him

lo

[fresh vessel]

:d

[split mortar]

The doc i replied to is the most trustworthy source since its all thats in game (and not the outdated stuff)

[real glen]

Can we kill youtubers who spreads misinformation (🐬)

[mighty zenith]

^

[fresh vessel]

if he is known for clickbait this has to be a scary video

it is content mod but still

[limpid saddle]

we should kill him with hammers

[fresh vessel]

i prefer ranged

but hammer works too

[long bloom]

throwable hammers

[fresh vessel]

if they do ranged damage then yes

most throwable axes or hammers do melee or rogue

a whole day went by when i typed

[long bloom]

someone make a texture pack that replaces superradiant with a hammer launcher

[fresh vessel]

i jsut watched a video of superradiant and if it is the same weapon its dps is crazy with no immunity frames

[split mortar]

Every weapon is crazy with no i frames

[fresh vessel]

do dummies have i frames

if you test a weapon on a dummy

i dont know how i frames work exactly i just know what they are

[split mortar]

They do, i frames are often per weapon iirc

[fresh vessel]

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/Bguw61Mid4U

[split mortar]

Unless a mod removes i frames in general they should have i frames

[fresh vessel]

waffle time playing no i frames was funny as hell

honestly pretty interesting but it doesnt change anything expect just make the game go faster

[fresh vessel]

you most likely die more and you do more damage

[fresh vessel]

what weapon

its a scytche and it does rogue damage 100%

[long bloom]

don't think that's in calamity

at least i've never seen it

[mighty zenith]

no thats chronomancer's scythe

[real glen]

It is in cal

[mighty zenith]

and its a mage weapon

[long bloom]

yeah i just checked the gif name

[real glen]

crazy

[fresh vessel]

goddangit

magic damage then

[long bloom]

it's true that I've never seen it tho

bc mage is terrible

[mighty zenith]

[fresh vessel]

mage is good and bad

ranged is suprisingly NOT much of a glass cannon

mage feels like it is just a glass cannon

[split mortar]

Ranged isnt glass canon in vanilla

[fresh vessel]

not even in calamity in my opinion

btw just to clear i havent even played calamity to the end

im at Polterghast

im scared of doggie so i dont want to progress in the game anymore

[long bloom]

dog is the most pathetic "boss" in modding right now

[split mortar]

Ok

[split mortar]

True

[long bloom]

it's an embarrassment

[fresh vessel]

dog is a well made boss right and its quite difficult?

[split mortar]

You can make the fight be so anticlimactic by just staying still

[fresh vessel]

its not like old duke so its just a shit boss?

[split mortar]

No its not

[long bloom]

❌ ❌ ❌ ❌ ❌

[fresh vessel]

thats the same as cheesing bosses and its optional right

i am personally against cheesing bosses and havent cheesed a single boss since 1924

[split mortar]

By standing still i mean just not moving much
Not pressing wasd

[fresh vessel]

is the boss impossible if you move and possible if you dont move but easy

[split mortar]

And no its not cheesing it doesnt make any attacks easier to dodge

Just makes the fight anticlimactic to see

[fresh vessel]

oh okay i just analyzed the way you said anticlimactic and xzier saying embarassment differently

i thought it was just like its attacks couldnt hit you and the ai would miss you if you stayed still

[split mortar]

Btw dog is getting a temporary rework heres the background #spoilers message

[dusk laurel]

dog barely interacts with the player physically and has an overreliance on the easily dodgeable bady lasers, the bullet hells are not well made, etc etc

unlike lets say ravager, dog is not an optional fight so youre forced to fight this trash heap every playthrough

its so bad that the devs made a placeholder rework next update, until they actually will work on the final one

[fresh vessel]

i am quite a bad player and i killed light empress pre polterghast and i couldnt even dodge the lasers for some reason even thoughthere was warnings and everything

i still killed it ofcourse but im scared that i cant even dodge

i feel good and i am proud of myself for making it all the way to polterghast but still i am quite bad lol

ill die to doge a few times and then learn his patterns

[split mortar]

Background for the fight
Instead of colouring your screen blue or purple

[untold oracle]

SPOILERS?????

I never knew of that channel 😭

[split mortar]

Theres a channel for spoilers the devs dont want drowned by spoiler chat talking

First message in ut

[dusk laurel]

its the channel for finalized spoilers basically

usually

[split mortar]

Are you aware yharon is getting a new reaprite

Made by dia

[untold oracle]

No shit??
Although like

What respeite

Theres like

2 thousand of them

[split mortar]

All we have rn of it

[mighty zenith]

did you know that theres a new boss planned called yharim

[untold oracle]

Oh yeah i know that

[languid badge]

no way

[untold oracle]

HUH

[languid badge]

sounds stupid
yharon 2

[dusk laurel]

theres only 1 now the roaring knight killed the rest

[languid badge]

damn

[split mortar]

Damn

I keep on forgetting about the 1 month delta ban being lifted

[dusk laurel]

its been like 11 days since the deltarune 3+4 being a month old so it should be fine

[mighty zenith]

time passed so fast good god

[split mortar]

I gotta get to doing snowgrave at some point soon

[mighty zenith]

im not doing it

i love the scrimblo brimblo deer too much

[sinful adder]

Yeah I'm also not doing it

...unless it ends up being the only way to save them or something

[mighty zenith]

maybe when the full game is out

[fresh vessel]

YHARIM IS GONNA BECOME A BOSS

HUHHH

[mighty zenith]

[split mortar]

The guys always been the planned final boss

[fresh vessel]

so yharim is gonna be final boss?

[split mortar]

Yeah

Xeroc and noxus (if implemented) will be post game superbosses

[sinful adder]

I said this before, but after CH3 and 4 I think that Xeroc's control over light and dark should explain why he can make clones of things, because he's basically making darkners or dark world things. The solar eclipse should work this way too, making your fears come to life in darkness. This also means that the solar eclipse should have a dark titan moon lord as a post Yharon optional boss obviously

[fresh vessel]

but by lore yharon is more powerful than yharim?

[split mortar]

Nope

[sinful adder]

No

[split mortar]

Wtf happened to your spelling

[sinful adder]

Finger shifted 1 key to the left

[split mortar]

Ah

[fresh vessel]

im gonna go watch lore video to the end and LEA you better be talking in this channel after i am done watching or i will use a flinch staff and send it at you

[sinful adder]

Anyways, yharim is stronger than Calamitas. He used to be weaker but that was a hundred years ago

[split mortar]

Oh god im being referred to as lea again 😭

@untold oracle help

[mighty zenith]

change your name

:slenderman

[split mortar]

No i want lea channel

[mighty zenith]

no

[split mortar]

Whens lea channel

[fresh vessel]

i will call you lea DEAL WITH IT toughperson

[mighty zenith]

never

[untold oracle]

Haiiii

[fresh vessel]

tell lea to change their username

[untold oracle]

Im the original Léa

NO

[fresh vessel]

yes

[untold oracle]

i need lea channel

[pliant ruin]

whatshapepning

[split mortar]

I got called lea again help

[crimson harbor]

Battle to the death for the right to the name lea

[pliant ruin]

i scrolled up and theres no lore happening in the lore channel

[fresh vessel]

first i need to know lea "channels" gender so i dont have to say person

[crimson harbor]

THERE CAN BE ONLY ONE

[split mortar]

Call me whatever idc theyre just words

[untold oracle]

No you see im lea
Always has been
Melom however is here to advocate for my lifelong goal of lea channel

[fresh vessel]

im not fabsol

[split mortar]

We are allies not enemies

[split mortar]

Whaur

[untold oracle]

True!

[crimson harbor]

But... There can be only one?

[untold oracle]

These guys dont even know who lea is 🥀

[dusk laurel]

im killing lea

[split mortar]

Maybe you should learn more numbers

[dusk laurel]

lea stole the lore im killing lea

[fresh vessel]

you are Lea with a chinese E and LEA is LEA

[untold oracle]

Vanillin im exploding you

[untold oracle]

FYM CHINESE E

[dusk laurel]

im unexplodable

[split mortar]

Vanillin you are losing your muscles

[fresh vessel]

https://tenor.com/view/marikiplier-e-meme-lord-farquaad-gif-22138504

[untold oracle]

HA

[fresh vessel]

go watchthe gif pls

PLZ

[dusk laurel]

no

[fresh vessel]

just read url

[untold oracle]

Everyon look this is lea
The original lea (me) (thats me)

[dusk laurel]

👎

[fresh vessel]

thats donald trumpet

wdym

[dusk laurel]

okay too far

[fresh vessel]

too fair

orange hair is a harmless joke

[pliant ruin]

What are you people even doing

[untold oracle]

Im banning you

[dusk laurel]

lea is a war criminal but not on the same level as trump

[untold oracle]

From

[pliant ruin]

This isn't lore nor discussion

[untold oracle]

Ssclsl

[untold oracle]

Its only pure truth

Truth nuke

[fresh vessel]

we are talking about Leas lore

[untold oracle]

(Sorry ill stop)

[dusk laurel]

pure deceit

[fresh vessel]

who is the real lea

[split mortar]

Ingot called lea and it spiralled

[fresh vessel]

this IS lore

[split mortar]

Lea is an calamity OC of @untold oracle

[fresh vessel]

im gonna call you chanel bag deal with it TOUGH PERSON

now im going to watch the lore video to end

[untold oracle]

(My name here is my oc name SHES NOT A SELF INSERT)

Ok guys lore

[dusk laurel]

oh my god this is the 2nd time lea rot has infested the channel this week

[split mortar]

The power grows

[untold oracle]

What the fuck was nuclear terror originally

[crimson harbor]

But who is lea

[split mortar]

Chat when is the xeroc taxes due

[untold oracle]

🫡 glory

[split mortar]

^

[dusk laurel]

a nuclear waste bug

[pliant ruin]

staff mail 💔

[untold oracle]

THATS NOT A FUCKING BUG

[dusk laurel]

im killing you

[pliant ruin]

nuclear terror was a person

a guy

[split mortar]

It is a bug rn in game

[pliant ruin]

a dude even

[split mortar]

The new one

Is a person witha. Parasite soace egg thing

[untold oracle]

im tryign to redirect this convo ontopic
Noooo you cant kill me

[fresh vessel]

we need an animated calamity series starting with dragon era and moonlord fight and zeratos and xeroc

[pliant ruin]

idk if the we'll get any lore or relevance in the Dude himself but

hes a dude

[dusk laurel]

its just a guy

[untold oracle]

Wait so it was a human

[split mortar]

Moonlord is a fucking menace lmao

[fresh vessel]

im just a chill guy

[split mortar]

Yep

[untold oracle]

Thats fucking

[pliant ruin]

I mean idk if human specifically but its definitely like a person

[untold oracle]

Horrid

[pliant ruin]

Have you seen the sprite

[split mortar]

Was a human and got a space egg parasite on them

[pliant ruin]

Like thats a whole ass guy

[dusk laurel]

deltaw only saw the 2nd sprite

[split mortar]

Only phase 2

[untold oracle]

Chat is nuclear terror nebbie’s sister

[dusk laurel]

no

[pliant ruin]

has hair and everything

[dusk laurel]

garbo i need you to EXECUTE lea

public execution

[untold oracle]

Noo

[mighty zenith]

on it

[split mortar]

We are on topic rn stfu

[untold oracle]

Nno
Noooo
Nnoo

[mighty zenith]

wow i wonder who this moon lord guy is

[pliant ruin]

some alien squid guy

[mighty zenith]

maybe hes like.

a lord of the moon or smth

[pliant ruin]

probably not important tbh

[untold oracle]

Guys could moon lord beat fovos

[pliant ruin]

id say dragonfolly is far more relevant to the narrative

[mighty zenith]

no moon lord is the weak one

fovos is the guy who did all the things

[dusk laurel]

i think the dragon of gluttony could eat the moon lord

[mighty zenith]

fovos turned into moon lord

trust

[pliant ruin]

dragon of gluttony

gloomborf.

[mighty zenith]

dragon of fat

[pliant ruin]

vanillin r you a gloomborf truther

[mighty zenith]

fat fuck.

[dusk laurel]

wait cheese i just realized

[mighty zenith]

rotund specimen

[untold oracle]

Omgg i really hope the boss retiering really happens speaking of dragonfolly

[dusk laurel]

youve obsessed over 2 names that start with g

[untold oracle]

Folly was like
Space boss?

[dusk laurel]

gorthus

gloomborf

[pliant ruin]

i think dragonfolly and evil2 being swapped is very likely now

folly would b a sky boss yeah

[dusk laurel]

yeah

[fresh vessel]

What gods did Yharim and his team take down??? or is it just invisible lore

[untold oracle]

I think it would be cool if folly like enrages if you get back to surface

[pliant ruin]

Like

all of them

He didn't have a team he had like

a whole ass army

like thousands of people

[dusk laurel]

why

[untold oracle]

Because with storm weaver for example you can just fly up, summon the guy in space, and fall back to your arena

[pliant ruin]

he waged war against kingdoms and shit

[untold oracle]

So it’d be cooler if you actually had to fight it in the correct area

[dusk laurel]

follies are like vultures they dont really care where they are

[untold oracle]

I DNONT CARE

[pliant ruin]

I mean i think ites less about lore and more about gameplay

[fresh vessel]

but wich ones??? im talking about the time there was only permafrost and the knight whos name is something like yharon

[dusk laurel]

im murdering you

[untold oracle]

Yyeah

[pliant ruin]

I mean there were thousands of gods we dont know the names of almost any of them

If you want specifics though

the evil2 gods for one

[untold oracle]

God of baking has to exist

[pliant ruin]

otonilou and tyrian too

the sunken sea gods

not directly by him but still were due to him

[fresh vessel]

i will slap the shit out of those gods with the waffle pan from mechadusa

[untold oracle]

THE KNIGHT???

[pliant ruin]

i assume he means yharim himself

[fresh vessel]

he looks like a kngiht but hes the dragon king or whatever almsot was dragon king idk

[untold oracle]

Nope

[pliant ruin]

ok no

[untold oracle]

Knight canon now

[pliant ruin]

its not yharim

there is no knight that was going to be the dragon king idk whats up with that

[fresh vessel]

i keep getting confued with stuff yharim and who the fck the same sounding person was

[untold oracle]

Yharim yharon yhorm

[fresh vessel]

who is yhorm

????+

[pliant ruin]

not a real character

[untold oracle]

Yhorm mom

[pliant ruin]

that

[dusk laurel]

😭

[pliant ruin]

anyways like there were thousands of gods and now ingame you can find like 5 of them so

[fresh vessel]

so wich one is dragon and wich one is the knight like person

[pliant ruin]

should give a good picture

yharon is the dragon

[untold oracle]

Yhorm gotta be my #1 most awaited thing in SSO

[pliant ruin]

yharim is the evil yellow man

[fresh vessel]

thank you

[crimson harbor]

YhaRON is the dragon, yhaRIM is the dude

[jade pier]

È merda complete

[fresh vessel]

wich people are evil and wich are good? i mean isnt Yharon good since he was going down a bad path due to doggie but still he helped the Terrarian to get powerful and eventually beat him

[pliant ruin]

Yharim

Yharim is the guy

Not Yharon

[fresh vessel]

so Ron is the dragon and Rim is the dude

[pliant ruin]

anyways Yharim is a evil bastard

[split mortar]

Yharon and yharim wanted to do global genocide from the start idk how much dog coulda done

[pliant ruin]

blame shifting

[crimson harbor]

You can remember it like

YhaRON the draGON

[pliant ruin]

not to say dog is a good guy either hes fucked up and weird

but like bro was NOT responsible for making yharim genocide thousands

[untold oracle]

Nope hes morally grey trust

[split mortar]

Yharim has reason to want you on his side and so paints himself in a good light and shifts blame or hides stuff when possible

[fresh vessel]

yep thats wht i got from lore, Yharon tried to be good but still wanted power but after everyone left him because dog brainwashed yharon he realized that hes going down a bad path and helped terrarian

[split mortar]

And is also just super fucking biased

[pliant ruin]

No that's not at all what happens

[split mortar]

The guy doesnt feel bad for killing half the world

[pliant ruin]

Ok so first of all

Yharim

not Yharon

[fresh vessel]

read again i typed wrong

[pliant ruin]

the person talking to you in the lore items is Yharim

[fresh vessel]

i edited mesage

[pliant ruin]

Second

Yharim did not get

brainwashed by dog

He was a bad person from the start

[split mortar]

Yharim calls dog out for being a bad liar

[pliant ruin]

He did not realizing hes going down a bad path

[fresh vessel]

yharon got brainwashed by dog i just mis typed

[pliant ruin]

ohj my god

[split mortar]

He didnt

Yharim is shifting blame and lying

[fresh vessel]

oh my god i am so confsued with this lore

[pliant ruin]

Nobody got brainwashed

[mighty zenith]

yharon and yharim are two different characters, if that clears it up

[untold oracle]

Yharon and yharim do super racism echo chamber to each other and then they wanna kill everyone and then yharim tries to shift the blame to everyone else and try to sound like a fallen hero or smth in an attempt of gaslighting the terrarian (you) that you should pick up where he left off

[split mortar]

Yharim is not a trustworthy source so take whatever he says with a bakery of salt

[fresh vessel]

yharon was on a bad path of downfall because of dog right?

[mighty zenith]

the former is the dragon, the latter is the person

[pliant ruin]

Oh my go

no

we

we're saying this

this is the fourth time i say this

[split mortar]

No yharim just wants you to think that

He doesnt say the truth

[untold oracle]

Yharim killed 50% of world population in the crusade

[fresh vessel]

so yharim is brainwashing US?

[pliant ruin]

yes

[untold oracle]

YES

[split mortar]

Yeah

[untold oracle]

and is doing a very

Very good job at it

[jade pier]

Hi guys

[fresh vessel]

okay now i got it, i need stupid role please

[untold oracle]

Looking at 80% of the playerbase

[split mortar]

The guy lies and hides details to try and trick the terrarian

[fresh vessel]

but did yhaRON help the terrarian actually or no

[untold oracle]

Only for draedon to casually expose them later

[mighty zenith]

no yharon tries to kill you

[dusk laurel]

garbo can you change my nickname to scoog 😁

[pliant ruin]

Yharim is the one talking in the lore items

[jade pier]

My name is John and I'm lesbian

[pliant ruin]

not Yharon

[fresh vessel]

okay john

[pliant ruin]

thats awesome dude

[untold oracle]

Awesome

Lore

[mighty zenith]

i agree

[jade pier]

Thank guys ☺

[dusk laurel]

no get rid of the grin emoji 😢

[mighty zenith]

oh ok

[dusk laurel]

tank

[mighty zenith]

🐟

[jade pier]

I meet Hitler at the last night😳

[mighty zenith]

what

[dusk laurel]

.

[split mortar]

What

[pliant ruin]

i didn't know last night was a place but pop off

[fresh vessel]

you are a troll?

[jade pier]

No

I'm lesbian. Not troll

[pliant ruin]

fascinating

[mighty zenith]

???

[fresh vessel]

got it...

[mighty zenith]

i can feel my brain turning to mush

[dusk laurel]

wtf is happening

[jade pier]

Sorry my English. I'm from USA. We don't speak English

[fresh vessel]

thats because i breathed so much sulphuric air ||that my body became toxic and my farts melt trough the screen into everyones apartment||

[mighty zenith]

what the fuck are you all even TALKING about

[pliant ruin]

I dunno

[fresh vessel]

i dont know

[pliant ruin]

Garbo do u wanna see a bug with a fat ass

[crimson harbor]

Mushy lesbian farts obviously

[jade pier]

Why are you so angry

[pliant ruin]

I don't think anyone is angry to be honest

[fresh vessel]

back to lore!!!!?!??!??!

[split mortar]

What the fuck happened

[mighty zenith]

im just tired and my brain cant handle this

[split mortar]

Yes please

[pliant ruin]

It's more so confusion

[jade pier]

I love furry 😇

[fresh vessel]

takeda is troll ignore

[split mortar]

Yharim manipulated a child

[mighty zenith]

please get back on topic before i start killing ppl

[pliant ruin]

Garbo do you wanna see the bug or not

[jade pier]

I'm lesbian!!!

[fresh vessel]

thats almost too far

[mighty zenith]

no

[pliant ruin]

aw

it was a cool bug

[mighty zenith]

i saw it before

[split mortar]

Send it in sscls

[mighty zenith]

👍

[pliant ruin]

oh ok

[fresh vessel]

---

what did yhaRIM lie about yhaRON

[pliant ruin]

nothing

[jade pier]

Yharon your boyfriend??

[split mortar]

Not much theyre best friends

[pliant ruin]

Yharon is the dragon

[jade pier]

Oh sorry

[pliant ruin]

Yharon dosent do much in the mod atm

He just like

tries killing you

because you're a threat to Yharim and he dosen't want you to kill Yharim

[mighty zenith]

mascot

[jade pier]

I think he cute dragon

[fresh vessel]

stop trolling this is lore channel

[jade pier]

I don't understand you(

[fresh vessel]

yhaRIM apparently brainwashed US or lied about things but i dont know what he did

[pliant ruin]

He lied about all gods being bad and evil

[jade pier]

Ya prosto hochu kakat rebyata

[pliant ruin]

Yharim is someone with a very black and white perception of things

[split mortar]

We only have like 3 examples of bad gods and the rest are good basically

[pliant ruin]

Yharim basically decided to kill all of the gods because he saw them as bad

[dusk laurel]

one day we'll get more yharon characterization and itll be beautiful

[pliant ruin]

So he started a crusade to kill all of them

[split mortar]

Racism!

[fresh vessel]

for everyones sake i know youtube isnt best source but i have heard good things about midnight minute

[pliant ruin]

He thinks of himself as a hero for doing it

But in reality he's just a genocidal maniac

[split mortar]

Thats cause the gods he killed were coincidentally bad back then
The hallowed is of good gods

[pliant ruin]

His state in the game isn't one where he's regretting killing millions of people and realizing hes a bad person and wanting you to put an end to him or anything