#lore-discussion

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pliant ruin
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hes so cute...

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did this sprite get updated since last time we saw it

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idrm..

dusk laurel
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noe...

pliant ruin
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This one feels different but maybe my brain is just bad

long bloom
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it's not

hybrid barn
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I wonder if this could ever rival...the perfect being

pliant ruin
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Wonder if that's like the master mode pet or the baby scourge enemy

dusk laurel
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i just cropped it out of the screenshot

dusk laurel
long bloom
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ture

pliant ruin
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fight of the fatasses

dusk laurel
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number 1 desert scourge fan

visual kiln
dusk laurel
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wtf p

pliant ruin
visual kiln
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🥺

faint totem
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Gib

hybrid barn
dusk laurel
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i am not biased whatsoever

robust osprey
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undertale has yaoi, yuri and trans people

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its so peak

faint totem
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I want him.

pliant ruin
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roy is gonna have both, play roy, out now on steam

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(not)

hybrid barn
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Oh yeah, I guess it would since DS is a solely Calamity thing

frail knot
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what is yharim’s current title? ik before it was “Jungle Tyrant” but is it still that or something different

long bloom
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he doesn't have one official title but the most common one is "the godseeker"

frail knot
long bloom
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he is no longer related to the jungle in any way

long bloom
spare pier
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^

robust osprey
jaunty niche
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so patrons indeed have secrets to keep...

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I couldn't imagine people who pay money to keep secrets

supple wedge
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Time to piss people off

split mortar
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👁️

marble zealot
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Is there a lore reason as to why the Primordial Wyrm is so weak?

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Primordial is pretty much the state of time before the universe even existed, and I'm pretty sure the universe has been around for a really long time. This means that the Primordial Wyrm is, if its name is true, potentially anywhere between trillions to undecillions of years old. It has no reason to not have at least 50,000,000 HP and do crazy damage.

supple wedge
marble zealot
supple wedge
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Then there you have your explanation

marble zealot
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they can just add stronger weapons

supple wedge
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For what?

marble zealot
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calamity

supple wedge
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For one singular optional boss?

marble zealot
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I meant when they add more content

split mortar
marble zealot
split mortar
marble zealot
split mortar
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Its nearly as strong as the auric dragon king

marble zealot
split mortar
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Then why should it have like 10 mil

marble zealot
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because its old as hell

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youd expect the first ever primordial wyrm to exist to be way stronger than that and not be able to be killed in less than a minute

cloud ibex
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I’d imagine Jared might be changed in the future to be more of a proper fight

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But also a lot of that meltage is because of Shadowspec being the way it is

marble zealot
split mortar
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  1. Its stronger then scal or exos
  2. Shadowspec gear is busted and not balanced (and not canon)
  3. Old duke is not that much younger and is pre dog
cloud ibex
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Dev tier is a mess balance wise and nobody can be bothered to fix it

split mortar
marble zealot
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Since the Primordial Wyrm appears when you use the RoD, I'm presuming it's either smart enough to become completely invisible and be undetected by radars and stuff and only show itself once you use the RoD, or to sense usage of the RoD and teleport to you when you use it, or both. It should be smart enough to get stronger

split mortar
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You act like it being post scal is a casual thing for it maybe it does try to get stronger

marble zealot
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technically isn't post scal

split mortar
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It is

marble zealot
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yes you can

split mortar
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Its stronger then scal

marble zealot
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It spawns when you use RoD in the abyss and you can get that pre-scal

cloud ibex
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Where you can fight something is not always where you’re supposed to

marble zealot
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You can also kill it before Scal if you use exoblade

split mortar
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You can fight destroyer pre wof i dont see them being a pre hardmode boss

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You can beat scal pre wof is she pre hardmode?

marble zealot
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The difference is you can kill the Adult Eidolon Wyrm pretty easily pre-scal and you can't beat supreme calamitas with pre wall gear

cloud ibex
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The order you see on boss checklist is roughly the intended lore accurate order you do things in

marble zealot
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IIRC Primordial Wyrm doesn't show up on there because it's a secret boss

north wigeon
cloud ibex
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Yea but you’re still supposed to do it after SCal and the exos

north wigeon
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you are aware they literally had to flatten the damage numbers postml, right?

split mortar
supple wedge
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that's some serious dedication

split mortar
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Hell its a type of low% run to beat the game with as few bosses as possible and without killing wof

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Is dog and yharon and exos pre hardmode?
Is moonlord pre hardmode?

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Is aquatic scourge pre hardmode?

marble zealot
supple wedge
marble zealot
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Exos are way way past pre hardmode, if I say that the primordial wyrm is post-exos and pre-scal that's a one boss difference, not a 40 boss difference as you're making it out to be

split mortar
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Calamity is much more loose with when you can fight bosses
Just cause you can fight a boss before its intended progression doesnt mean its earlier then the intended progression

split mortar
marble zealot
marble zealot
split mortar
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Primordial wyrm is intended for post game tier and thus is post scal in strength lore wise the fact you can fight it and if skilled enough win doesnt change its actual strength

marble zealot
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note that on my first playthrough i died like 150 times to providence

cloud ibex
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It being underwhelming in-game doesn’t change how it’s supposed to be in-universe

marble zealot
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done w this fuckass game dude. the lore is pretty much "This thing happens but it actually doesnt happen but actually it does happen and this guy does it but this other guy reverses it but technicaly since supreme calamitas and exo mechs are on the same tier and primordial wyrm is technically post game it actually doesnt happen but that guy made this happen but he actually didnt it was this other guy since Yharim and Draedon divorced this thing blew up and then this dude died but he actually didn't but he actually did but then these dudes did that but they didn't jk they did and then they did this it was actually that other guy and then none of that actually happened or maybe it did"

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either that or you guys are gaslighting me like crazy

cloud ibex
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What

split mortar
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What

supple wedge
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wtf did you smoke?

marble zealot
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lore is less clear than a shower glass door with fog machin e

cloud ibex
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I gotta be real with you sis I have no idea what the hell you just said

marble zealot
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basically im saying the lore seems like "this guy did it but he actually didnt but he actually did but he actually didnt but he actually did"

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i get that its a WIP but it feels like instead of going in a straight line they just threw shit wherever and went "yea good enough the gaps will get filled in eventually"

cloud ibex
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Unfinished product™

marble zealot
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yea pretty much

marble zealot
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❓❓❓❓❓

scenic olive
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it was yharim nope,
it was yharon nope,
it was the dragons nope,
it was the gods nope,
it was sum xeroc nope, it was just an alien

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Next we will get 'it was John Wulfrum behind all this'

mighty zenith
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what are yall waffling about

stoic lark
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can confirm it was actually all john wulfrum

split mortar
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Nah scal ended the dragons

wheat walrus
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of all the things cal lore could leave vague, the most obvious noshit thing is the powerscaling across characters because of the progression being straight-forward with it

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but ofc if you ignore the main metric for it it becomes vague

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ffs

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"the boss that comes after and has higher stats is stronger than the boss that came before and has lower stats"

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shrimple

marble zealot
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incomprehensible

sleek halo
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i could make an argument for primordial wyrm being easier

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than scal and exo mechs

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he is stronger

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he is a worse fighter

marble zealot
marble zealot
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i could also make an argument

eager bluff
marble zealot
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for sending all your points

sleek halo
marble zealot
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in only one message

wheat walrus
sleek halo
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I just be typing like this

marble zealot
wheat walrus
marble zealot
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regedit himself said so

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hollon lemme find it

eager bluff
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read pins

sleek halo
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he has literally no authority over calamity lore lol

eager bluff
wheat walrus
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1, screenshot, 2, this isn't vanilla and what the terrarian does is up to you

cloud ibex
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i guess i can kinda see that? but vanilla lore barely exists and cal ignores it for the most part anyway

marble zealot
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since when were mech bosses calamity exclusive??

sleek halo
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Their story in calamity is entirely different

marble zealot
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wrong

cloud ibex
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_ _ what

marble zealot
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story in terraria: robots that get smoked by the terrarian
story in calamity: robots that get smoked by the terrarian

wheat walrus
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holy shit

sleek halo
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ragebaiting is wild

wheat walrus
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js say you don't care abt lore 💔

split mortar
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In calamity theyre made by draedon

sleek halo
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like actual trolling

marble zealot
wheat walrus
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ts pmo

marble zealot
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Do you guys seriously not understand the difference between actively and deliberately ragebaiting and just not taking it seriously

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this isnt like my job or anything i dont really have much reason to care about the lore actively

cloud ibex
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why are you here then

marble zealot
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to discuss lore

eager bluff
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why care then

sleek halo
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well

marble zealot
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read the channel name

sleek halo
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ok but this is actually ragebaiting </3

cloud ibex
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you just said you don't have a reason to care about the lore though

sleek halo
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this is trolling 101

marble zealot
sleek halo
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well

marble zealot
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I swear bro you make the slightest joke in 2025 and some bitch gonna be talking about some "ragebait" 🤦‍♂️🤦‍♂️

wheat walrus
cloud ibex
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this convo sucks

marble zealot
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you said read pinned

eager bluff
wheat walrus
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also check the other pinned message

sleek halo
wheat walrus
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the one with the document for you to read the lore we have available so fart

sleek halo
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Like if this isn’t trolling

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idk what is

wheat walrus
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FART 💔

eager bluff
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fart

split mortar
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Fart

sleek halo
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fart

marble zealot
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Tfw I make an argument but then someone brings up a post from 18,900 BC

wheat walrus
eager bluff
marble zealot
eager bluff
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where exactly

marble zealot
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Terraria server

wheat walrus
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man provide for what you said

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💔

split mortar
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Vanilla lore is unrelated to calamity lore anyways so its not like it matters

mighty zenith
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this sucks

marble zealot
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Find it yourself bruh 💔💔💔

wheat walrus
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no 💔 you brought it up

sinful adder
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What the hell is happening here

marble zealot
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that takes 4 minutes to find

wheat walrus
marble zealot
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how you got a spare hour to argue about calamity lore but not a spare 2 minutes to find it

wheat walrus
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and you could do it yourself

sinful adder
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Vanilla lore is stupid and irrelevant. Calamity lore is different and good

marble zealot
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it takes 2 seconds to join a discord server

split mortar
wheat walrus
marble zealot
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without vanilla lore there would be no calamity lore

wheat walrus
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if you aint gonna provide for what you say then dont say

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ffs

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simpleton concept gang

mighty zenith
eager bluff
marble zealot
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you have no source for me not telling the truth outside of "erm.. im too lazy to check terraria discord"

marble zealot
wheat walrus
mighty zenith
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how so

wheat walrus
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tf kinda logic is this

marble zealot
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because if that was the case then vanilla terraria wouldnt exist

sinful adder
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No actually. Calamity lore completely ignores and replaces vanilla. That's all there really is to say on the matter

marble zealot
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and what would calamity be a mod for if terraria didnt exist

mighty zenith
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terraria existed before terraria lore existed

mighty zenith
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you realize that right

split mortar
sinful adder
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What

mighty zenith
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terraria was not made with lore in mind

wheat walrus
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anyways terraria lore barely even is a thing

marble zealot
sleek halo
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No this has to be trolling

sleek halo
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one cannot be this dense

split mortar
marble zealot
sinful adder
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And also doesn't contradict itself

marble zealot
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where does terraria lore contradict itself

sinful adder
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terraria didn't originally have lore, then they wrote like 4 different contradictory versions of the story and pur half of them in the game

sleek halo
marble zealot
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where does it contradict itself though

wheat walrus
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red doesn't care about having a specific set lore and just writes in what he wants, but in the end you're the one who has to piece out anything beyond vague scripture

calamity takes steps beyond that and tries to have its own timeline of events, with characters and such, i dont even mean to say this against vanilla lore but this is literally just that 💔

eager bluff
wheat walrus
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tldr: terraria lore is far more sandboxed than calamity lore

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ffs

sleek halo
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this is some silly type conversation

split mortar
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Calamity lore is simply trying to do different stuff to vanilla and thus cant keep vanillas lore

wheat walrus
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keep what lore gng

sinful adder
# marble zealot where does it contradict itself though

The cyborg is a human with robot parts and a personality in old vanilla lore in most dialogue, and the steampunker doesn't know how he works.

In new vanilla lore (bestiary and happiness dialogue) the cyborg's personality completely shifts, and the bestiary says he is a robot built by the mechanic and steampunker.

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This is just one example

marble zealot
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lore can change

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its up to the writers

wheat walrus
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still consider what was shared earlier gng

mighty zenith
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theres also the whole "cthulhu vs cthulhu's brother" thing with moon lord

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which pretty much nobody can agree on

wheat walrus
marble zealot
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"unknown.png" 🔥🔥🔥

cloud ibex
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red just says shit sometimes

wheat walrus
marble zealot
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dont feel like it. too much work

wheat walrus
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the point is that red doesn't care to have actual lore beyond a few sprinkles here and there

eager bluff
wheat walrus
sleek halo
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the pranking is unreal

eager bluff
marble zealot
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I clicked on the word "forwarded" and it iddnt work

violet spoke
marble zealot
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thanks bro

wheat walrus
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once again js in case

sleek halo
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🐌

marble zealot
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bro i already saw it the first time

wheat walrus
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cause you never know

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you never know

full comet
sinful adder
sleek halo
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well that’s

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a different story

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lol

sinful adder
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Yeah

marble zealot
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Is Draedon aware of the Terrarian? I don't see them interact

sleek halo
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he is

marble zealot
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I mean I know he knows they exist by aware I meant does blud have intent on squaring up

sleek halo
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he did

marble zealot
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i meant draedon himself

sinful adder
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Basically every time they add lore into the game, it either ignores or contradicts whatever they added the previous time

sleek halo
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oh

sleek halo
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No he wouldn’t

marble zealot
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pussy

sleek halo
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the exo mechs are drastically better at fighting

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than he is

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i mean he could just probably install aimbot or some shit

split mortar
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Draedon is an ai, so the guy could have been the exos but it would have been less efficient then giving them unique ais built for fighting

sinful adder
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Draedon is indeed aware of the Terrarian and is watching. Draedon doesn't fight directly, he builds things to fight for him

marble zealot
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so hes summoner

sleek halo
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yes

cloud ibex
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basically

sleek halo
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just with tech

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not magic

marble zealot
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i love using mafic

sleek halo
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true

cloud ibex
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i imagine he could in theory make a body that lets him fight in person

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he just doesn't want to

sleek halo
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i find it funny

sinful adder
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He could do the fighting himself, but there would be no point. Better and safer to build a robot to do it automatically

marble zealot
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is there a lore reason why the exo mechs never get smarter

sleek halo
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cause he would totally also observe the fight

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with another hody

sleek halo
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iirc

marble zealot
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does draedon just like watch the terrarian refight them and kick their asses every time and not decide to change it at all

split mortar
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Refights arent canon

sleek halo
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Ares changes it up

sinful adder
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I think that's just gameplay

sleek halo
marble zealot
sinful adder
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Respawning also isn't canon by default (but your player's lore is up to you)

wheat walrus
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melon gun is the most canon thing in this chat

calm patio
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^

split mortar
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😭

full comet
# eager bluff no it really isnt

The lore pages basically tell of a Lunatic Cult trying to revive Cthulhu.

And then guess who fucking arrives half formed.

Somebody who looks like Cthulhu that was revived by a Lunatic Cultist

marble zealot
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player's ore is up to you meaning that I can say that refighting is canon if I terrarian

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the terrarian is like the gordon freeman of terraria

cloud ibex
full comet
calm patio
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no it isnt

sleek halo
calm patio
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moonlord in calamity is not cthulhu

sleek halo
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isscal

cloud ibex
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the exos can be rebuilt but it'd take far longer than the time it takes you to resummon them

sleek halo
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because she doesn’t die

split mortar
full comet
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Sorry

sleek halo
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also

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U could fight multiple desert scourges

cloud ibex
sleek halo
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basically anything that is an animal

cloud ibex
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like folly or king slime

marble zealot
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what if i use cheat sheet to spawn 10 desert scourges

sleek halo
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that coild he cannon

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canon

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too tired

marble zealot
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Hear me out..

cloud ibex
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then you have a lot of worms

split mortar
sleek halo
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but things that only 1 exist of

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if it dies

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isn’t canon refight

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like Old Duke

split mortar
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Or desert scoog

marble zealot
# marble zealot Hear me out..

What if Calamity lore differs vastly and while it has a general base concept to work around the lore of the Terrarian depends on how you play which would mean that each playthrough has their own unique lore

full comet
sleek halo
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desert scourge iirc isn’t the last

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of his kind

split mortar
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The rest are its asexually produced offspring iirc

marble zealot
sleek halo
full comet
sleek halo
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The hivemind only has 1

sleek halo
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lol

marble zealot
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thats a weird name

split mortar
sleek halo
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probably not a scientific name

full comet
sleek halo
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but they’re linked together vis

split mortar
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Aquatic scourge isnt even in the same genus iirc

marble zealot
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I think Harold is a better name

sleek halo
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veryyy different animals

full comet
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Like they're just different species

marble zealot
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wait if draedon is a robot then how can he move

full comet
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One adapted to the desert.

The other the acidic ocean.

full comet
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Like

marble zealot
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not chatgpt

wheat walrus
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huh

sleek halo
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he’s chatgpt 10,000 years in the future

marble zealot
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since draedon is chatgpt does this mean he doesnt know how many r's in strawberry or that one contains e

mighty zenith
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kill people

wheat walrus
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did this user actually ask why would a robot move

marble zealot
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yeab

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what use would we have for moving

full comet
marble zealot
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he can just like robot stuff

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(robot as in the verb)

violet spoke
mighty zenith
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he's not one robot

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he's an AI

sleek halo
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i think i might have a stroke guys

split mortar
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Draedon is a actual artificial intelligence not word goop machine

mighty zenith
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meaning he can control a body remotely

marble zealot
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chatgpt doesnt die

mighty zenith
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anyway i dont have the patience for this

marble zealot
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and it needs to move

mighty zenith
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have fun guys

violet spoke
marble zealot
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i worded that wrong

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chatgpt doesnt need to move

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and it functions

wheat walrus
full comet
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Anyways, so essentially I was surprised that the Eater of Worlds is actually a centipede

split mortar
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Wai wha

marble zealot
sleek halo
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too many

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too hidden

marble zealot
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they can just like

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buy stuff from the demolitionist

split mortar
sleek halo
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the strongest being in the known u universe probably couldn’t succeed

split mortar
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We play on part of 1 continent

marble zealot
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why dont they just like move

split mortar
cloud ibex
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the game doesn't let you

split mortar
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In game

marble zealot
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do airplanes not exist in calamity

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lore

sleek halo
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probably not

marble zealot
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bro

sleek halo
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like 99.9% no

full comet
split mortar
marble zealot
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what do the humans do then

sleek halo
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walk

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ride animals

cloud ibex
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the rest of the world is like

sleek halo
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use magic

marble zealot
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cars

cloud ibex
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somewhere in the early industrial revolution i think?

sleek halo
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the world is basically like

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yeah

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draedon is just

split mortar
sleek halo
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ridiculously far ahead

cloud ibex
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draedon is LEAGUES beyond humans irl and humans irl are pretty damn far ahead from people in cal

marble zealot
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why doesnt draedon share some of his tech then

full comet
marble zealot
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sharing is caring and he doesnt need all that

cloud ibex
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he has shared some of it i think?

full comet
split mortar
marble zealot
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this what i found

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about draedon sharing

marble zealot
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idk if that is a developer or njot

split mortar
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They arent

marble zealot
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its from 2018 though

cloud ibex
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if they don't have the developer role they're not a developer

split mortar
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Thats beyond ancient even if it was canon

marble zealot
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Calamity was around for 10 years?

cloud ibex
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9

marble zealot
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I said 2018 and you said 4 years before that's like 2014

full comet
split mortar
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Im not the sharpest shed in the tool

cloud ibex
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2018 was four years before the rewrite yes

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the rewrite was 2022

full comet
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Which is wild to me personally

marble zealot
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Rewrite as in Imgflip user RewriteSonic?

warm gull
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this will be terraria in 2015

cloud ibex
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what

split mortar
marble zealot
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What class does the Terrarian canonically have

split mortar
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Your choice

cloud ibex
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idk man you decide

full comet
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Yes

split mortar
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Can i post the image

marble zealot
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Classless

full comet
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Yeah sure

cloud ibex
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works i guess

full comet
warm gull
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terrarian canonically does an accessory damage only playthrough

marble zealot
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Since it's the 80th in the game

warm gull
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terrarian is potion class

split mortar
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The terrarian is you irl

cloud ibex
full comet
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Anyways, this is a pointless question, but how fucking big is SCal's mana bar. Girl didn't even drink a single mana potion.

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I can tell by the amount of damage she does to me

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((I have a severe skill issu-))

split mortar
split mortar
wheat walrus
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what is melon talking abt

split mortar
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Ilmer

full comet
wheat walrus
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wym run out of energy before mana

split mortar
full comet
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Like you see her and she's just constantly doing the drinking animation

wheat walrus
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yes i saw that

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but wym

marble zealot
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Is Draedon aware of slang like "skibbity rizz", "ts pmo", "brr skibidi dop dop dop yes yes", "j*b", "gng", "pmo pmo pmo", "ts so kevin", "hawk tuah", "💔💔🥀🥀🥀", "blud just phonked that guy", "mangoes mangoes mangoes", "BOIII what you say about phonk 💀💀💀 +♾️tesotrone +♾️noradrenaline +♾️rage", "gyatt", "trollge", "balkan rage", "packgod humble him", or "ts blud skibidi 💀💀" since he's smart or is he not yet aware of that slang because the Calamity is not in that era?

wheat walrus
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where did you get that

marble zealot
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do you think he could learn pretty quickly

split mortar
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Pluh

full comet
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Tung tung tung sahur

snow mountain
full comet
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Skidibi

cloud ibex
wheat walrus
marble zealot
wheat walrus
cloud ibex
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tempting

cloud ibex
wheat walrus
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there's no way using a reaction image twice is more of an issue than this bum trying to be a bait for the last hour or so

full comet
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Also is the Wulfrum drones basically old tech Draedon made

wheat walrus
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💔

full comet
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Like really old tech

cloud ibex
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i don't think he'd find slang in particular very interesting but he does express wanting to see how society would react to yharim dying

marble zealot
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Humans are aware of Yharim?

split mortar
full comet
split mortar
full comet
marble zealot
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Not like humans can fact check that

split mortar
full comet
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And then finally current time with the Exomechs

cloud ibex
wheat walrus
# cloud ibex it isn't

then why does it trigger more of a reaction, esp when the user has a warn role and has apparently been muted asw

full comet
wheat walrus
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calmain mod team at it once again 😔 we gunna lose our img rights tomorrow by ein

cloud ibex
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in fact iunno if he's really capable of lying

full comet
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"Okay so I don't mean to alarm you. I will let Draedon tell you."

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"YOU WILL DIE IN TEN DAYS."

wheat walrus
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goku black gif

marble zealot
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dude I forgot that lobotomies were real

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i thuoght that was like slang.

sleek halo
full comet
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I'm beginning to think that Windows Input Experience is an eleven year old ngl

cloud ibex
sleek halo
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he totally could lie

split mortar
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Why lie when can kill yhar with new guy

sleek halo
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1000%

full comet
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Either that or be like

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"Yes. This joke is humorous because of this reason."

sleek halo
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if he doesn’t get s joke afiak it’s because of

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cultural reasons

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or social reasons

full comet
marble zealot
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If the Terrarian has their own lore

sleek halo
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whether he finds a joke funny or. ot

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is

marble zealot
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Does that mean that I can make my own calamity lore

full comet
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I mean

Yeah

split mortar
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It wont be official but nothing stopping ya

full comet
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Just won't be official

marble zealot
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Official lore is like

cloud ibex
stoic lark
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as a dev my headcanons are all actually straight from a calamity developer which i think means they're real

marble zealot
# marble zealot Official lore is like

The lore entries in the game that bosses drop and random one sentence things said by devs 3-9 years ago in this server that people somehow have perfect links to despite them taking 80 hours of scrolling to find

full comet
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That and Draedon

cloud ibex
#

the bestiary

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and draedon autistically infodumping on you yeah

stoic lark
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draedon text wall generator

split mortar
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The draetalk and bestiary are pretty good straightforward sources of info

marble zealot
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The bestiary is lore?

cloud ibex
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yes

stoic lark
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cal's enemies all have actually relevant beastiary entries yea

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well

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except for moray

cloud ibex
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i think vanilla entries have yet to be updated but cal entries are accurate

marble zealot
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1 sec

split mortar
stoic lark
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you should check the moray eel beastiary entry first

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i think it really sets the tone

marble zealot
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brah

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what even is this

full comet
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I mean the mod's literally not finished yet

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Expect some things to be in progress

full comet
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There could be another rewrite in like five minutes

marble zealot
#

I just checked the ghost bell bestiary entry cuz I expected it to have like nothing and it's ""These high-voltage jellyfish can incapacitate most with a single touch, and were a major factor in the Ilmerian army's strength. The sea kingdom used the electricity produced by Ghost Bells to drive back Yharim's forces, electrifying the waters so that none could cross their borders."" so I checked the baby ghost bell and it's "Ghost Bells were bred in large numbers during the Ilmeran war, due to the Ilmerian army needing a staggering amount of electricity to keep Yharim and his forces at bay. Alas, their efforts were for naught, and the kingdom collapsed after the Great Incineration."

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why is ts ACTUALLY interesting

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like what is the great incinceration or the ilmerian army or the ilmeran war

full comet
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Cause reading is fun

marble zealot
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mind. blow 🤯🤯

split mortar
marble zealot
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What about ilmerian army or war

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or is taht not said yet

full comet
split mortar
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Yharim constantly trying to send soldiers to fight them

split mortar
sinful adder
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What

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No

full comet
mighty zenith
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ilmeris was in the sunken sea

split mortar
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Ilmeris is the undergorund desert and sunken sea

full comet
cloud ibex
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ilmeris is what the Desert/Sunken Sea used to be

mighty zenith
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azafure was the hell city

full comet
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I keep mixing up names I swear

cloud ibex
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ilmeris had gods

stoic lark
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underworld city was azafure (now brimstone crags)

full comet
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Sorry

mighty zenith
random mulch
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the ilmerian sea was a large underground sea, with a good chunk of it having been boiled away and turned into the underground desert

cloud ibex
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therefore yharim decided Ilmeris was no longer allowed to exist

marble zealot
#

so then

full comet
marble zealot
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wouldnt that mean that if the ilmeran war never happened the desert scourge could look differently

cloud ibex
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so they went to war for a while until scal was sent to boil the entire fuckin kingdom

random mulch
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the kingdom of ilmeris used to be there but it kinda destroyed & boiled by calamitas at yharim's command

cloud ibex
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the effects of which you see today

mighty zenith
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not much

marble zealot
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I think a lot actually

cloud ibex
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i believe DS got lucky and didn't need to adapt too much to the change in environment

split mortar
full comet
marble zealot
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Because living in some underwater city and all the sudden having to adapt to a sudden change to just dry sand would be like. wack

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unless DS had cracked biology already

split mortar
random mulch
split mortar
full comet
marble zealot
#

The sea serpent lore entry only says "Despite being one of the few carnivorous creatures to have ever existed in the Ilmeran Sea, even these serpents are unusually passive towards those they do not consider prey by the standards of elsewhere. The sea has only ever known one truly aggressive predator, and it abandoned a life of calming solitude years ago." so it doesnt specify why theyre aable to swim in air

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who's alice

full comet
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*alive

split mortar
full comet
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It was a minor spelling mistake and now I am about to be executed in 10 days

marble zealot
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wow this calamitas person seems mean

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I hope we get to kill them later so that they stop being evil

full comet
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Yeah

Now she lives in one of your apartments

marble zealot
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in the game

split mortar
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Yharim manipulated a minor

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Being scal

marble zealot
cloud ibex
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well she had been manipulated to be a child soldier since she was a teenager

full comet
cloud ibex
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she still boiled an entire kingdom, don't get me wrong, but she is very regretful over it

split mortar
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Traumatised impressionable teen vs yhapaganda

cloud ibex
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the whole reason she fights you at all is because she doesn't want anyone to end up like Yharim again

split mortar
marble zealot
split mortar
marble zealot
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the only similarity is that they get power by killing to get boss drops

full comet
cloud ibex
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that's what she eventually realizes

mighty zenith
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seeing someone wearing auric armor that got insanely strong insanely fast?

cloud ibex
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but when you kill two separate gods (three if you count ravager), she gets the feeling that a pattern is forming

marble zealot
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When I fought SCal I was wearing Omega Blue

mighty zenith
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you still got insanely strong insanely fast

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auric is just the potential cherry on top

marble zealot
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IIRC doesnt Yharon wear his own armor that we can't obtain

split mortar
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No yharon doesnt wear armour

marble zealot
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the stuff on his ankles and neck

full comet
split mortar
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That sprite is outdated as fuck

mighty zenith
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its also huge

sleek halo
marble zealot
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Why it still ther

sleek halo
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u do it even faster

mighty zenith
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i dont think we could wear that

sleek halo
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like

marble zealot
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Devs ned to update the game. It;s outdated

mighty zenith
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yes thats the plan

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👍

sleek halo
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Yharim took a century to get where he’s at

split mortar
calm patio
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cluebed uh yeah. be patient

sleek halo
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u took maybe a few years at most

marble zealot
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wouldnt it be closer to like

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a month

sleek halo
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depends on what u want

split mortar
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The terrarians lore is up to you

sleek halo
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obviously there is a logistical limit

marble zealot
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average calamity playthrough is like 40 hours a terraria day is 20 minutes thats like 3 months

split mortar
sleek halo
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because yharim dies regardless in less than a decade

sleek halo
split mortar
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130~ does that to someone

sleek halo
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but if u say ur character took like

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9 years

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still bounds more impressive than even yharim

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bounds more impressive than anyone

marble zealot
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Idk dude

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I don't think power is the most impressive feat the Terrarian can does

full comet
split mortar
full comet
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Like we have Yharim for his grand purpose of killing all of the gods

sleek halo
full comet
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Meanwhile we're just like

marble zealot
full comet
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"mmmm yes cool weapon. Need more"

sleek halo
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“wtf”

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no matrer how you cut it

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we’re basically an anomaly of strength

marble zealot
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well i mean thats not what i meant like the crazy gear part

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what i meant is like think about it this way

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What's more impressive? "The Terrarian beat the Devourer with some wack powerful weapons" or "The Terrarian was able to dodge and drag the fight with the Devourer out long enough to beat him with Wulfrum gear"

split mortar
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Either way its of concern

mighty zenith
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just beating the Devourer in general is impressive

marble zealot
#

not really

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You do that every playthrough.

full comet
#

In lore

mighty zenith
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he's like, one of the most powerful creatures in the world

split mortar
full comet
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You basically killed a God that ate a lot of other Gods

marble zealot
#

i think terrarian is like number 4

split mortar
marble zealot
sleek halo
full comet
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Basically if there's one canonical constant

sleek halo
#

yharim would be tied for 5

split mortar
marble zealot
#

oh

full comet
#

The Terrarian is just

Built different

sleek halo
full comet
marble zealot
#

Xeroc number 2 idk whos number 3 and Edward number 1

sleek halo
#

we might be 4

split mortar
#

Then it may be 3-4

sleek halo
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counting fovos at his full strength

marble zealot
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Couldnt like

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The Terrarian if powerful enough go to the top 3 spot

full comet
marble zealot
#

is the terrarian a fraud

full comet
#

Yeah

marble zealot
#

like are they powerful or is it just their gear thats powerful

calm patio
#

yeah the terrarian is like the frauding knight

split mortar
#

Xeroc
Prime moonlord
Noxus
Yharim

Terrarian will go above yharim but noxus and prime moonlord are questionable

sleek halo
#

combination

full comet
sleek halo
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since fovos afaik

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could still box pretty well with Xeroc

split mortar
split mortar
marble zealot
#

I keep hearing a lot about this moonlord prime dude

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I hope we get to fight him

sleek halo
#

we do

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he’s just

marble zealot
#

When

sleek halo
#

not in his prime

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Moonlord

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Is split in half

marble zealot
#

I meant prime moonlord

sleek halo
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and is starved

split mortar
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Only being in calamity with a chance to beat xeroc even if theyre super slim chances

full comet
marble zealot
#

Well

split mortar
sleek halo
#

he’s significantly weaker now

marble zealot
#

The thing is

full comet
#

I mean idk

Maybe you could ask Scal to revive him

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It would be funny

sleek halo
marble zealot
#

Weren't the cultists trying to revive Cthulhu before you interrupted them?

full comet
marble zealot
#

So couldn't they just bring moon lord back

marble zealot
#

then why they do the same in calamity

full comet
split mortar
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The cultists are trying to keep moonlord away

calm patio
marble zealot
#

why

split mortar
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They keep the seal functional

calm patio
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i mean

full comet
#

Oh wait Vanilla and Calamity lore are different

calm patio
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moonlord wiped out most of the dragons

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quite obvious

full comet
#

I keep mixing them up

full comet
split mortar
#

They worship the dragons and the dragons threw ml in the moon

full comet
split mortar
marble zealot
split mortar
#

Or well might

split mortar
full comet
marble zealot
full comet
split mortar
marble zealot
full comet
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Your mom

split mortar
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Not that it has actual dominion over the moon

calm patio
split mortar
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Im not moonlord

marble zealot
#

howd he get out then

split mortar
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We break ml out

full comet
calm patio
marble zealot
full comet
split mortar
full comet
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Similar to how the Doomguy released what's basically Satan just to kill him

mighty zenith
#

I think just giving him a proper name would be better

split mortar
full comet
mighty zenith
#

would make him stand out more as a character than just, a boss

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it's like if Calamitas was just called Supreme Witch

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not counting the NPC because thats different

full comet
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Lunatic Cultist being an NPC after defeating the ML would be funny as shit

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Like he's confused

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And mad

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In both definitions of mad.

marble zealot
#

12 minute's ago

split mortar
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Yeah lore chat isnt always active

eternal basalt
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is boss rush canon

split mortar
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Yea, xeroc makes it

eternal basalt
wheat walrus
#

sigmadmin

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we're so well done

faint plank
#

yharim tortillas

spring helm
#

Moon Lord is probably a title that came about much later on after the whole incident happened, likely the original story of what happened got corrupted over a centuries long telephone game

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Or it was something people came up with to explain why a big alien was on the moon, after what happened was forgotten

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Which isn’t unlikely, considering that nobody knows the name Fovos anymore and all the dragons were killed

tall delta
split mortar
supple wedge
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lores your Terrarian

split mortar
stoic gulch
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Lea channel will never exist

split mortar
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Whens lea channel

stoic gulch
#

Smelon gun

split mortar
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@untold oracle channel when

dusk laurel
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never

cosmic zenith
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Man

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Amidias' Lantern Nights entry kinda makes me tear up

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It's such a subtle display of how tragic Ilmeris' situation is, and how Amidias coped with it

long bloom
#

intriguing

supple wedge
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Whhhhhaaaaaaa

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lores the lore

light linden
untold oracle
split mortar
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PEAK

pliant ruin
#

lea channel tommorow

split mortar
#

Yay

woeful hatch
#

How many gen 6 armored cores do y'all think it would take to beat an endgame calamity terrarian?

They'd be much faster (easily going 300-500 km/h) and much bigger, but considering the sheer energy output some of our later enemies can discharge, and the fact that we can survive some hits from them, I think the terrarian would take durability. Probably offensive output too.

split mortar
woeful hatch
split mortar
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So a post ml terrarian probably like oneshots them or heavily hurts them in one hit

woeful hatch
#

That's IF they can hit them , however. And they got repair kits and stuff too, so if it's not a clean one shot, they could repair, at least a few times for armored core

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However they do lack offensive potential

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Like, they're not close to that

split mortar
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Theres def some gear that can hit

split mortar
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Low end

woeful hatch
#

Damn, 20 megatons of power? That's a LOT.

split mortar
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And it was closer to 25

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Per second

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On the absolute low end

tropic oak
woeful hatch
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Ok yeah that's a wrap

split mortar
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High end its not far off a tsar bomba per second

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(For 4 days without stop)

woeful hatch
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Idt the armored cores can inflict enough damage to be meaningful

split mortar
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That was teen scal she has gotten much more skilled since then

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And the terrarian post game is above her

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The terrarian
Might also have attacks able to hit them thanks to either aggressive as fuck homing or laser beams i think?

woeful hatch
#

Ok now actually entirely unrelated, but imma try calculating how hot Calamitas' fire is

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4 days, one ocean, right?

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Or is it more like a sea

split mortar
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A good starting point would be that the lava in the brimstone crags is casually nearly as hot as the irl surface of the sun i think

woeful hatch
#

It's fucking what

split mortar
split mortar
#

The mantis shrimp bestiary mentions how the punches from them are known for rivalling the lava there
And irl mantis shrimp are known for having punches rival the suns surface

woeful hatch
#

How the fuck did people live any close to it

split mortar
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Back when the dragons ruled

woeful hatch
#

Wait, it got hotter after the brimstone elemental and Scal duel, right?

split mortar
#

Possibly? Might have just been that hot naturally idk

wheat walrus
#

melon im chilling you

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💔

split mortar
#

Whaur

wheat walrus
#

i need to remind you that the amount of time it took is and remains unclear

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so it could go anywhere from megatons to kilotons or even less

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given, from devs i hear anything between days to months

pliant ruin
#

powerscaling talk

split mortar
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Didnt know the months part

wheat walrus
#

young gun

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i was there when the magic was written

split mortar
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If the quotes that say months are old as balls then the newer ones would be more reliable no?

wheat walrus
#

depends

pliant ruin
#

uhh yeah probably

wheat walrus
#

ts inconsistent anyways

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ppl who rely on dev statements

young socket
#

i mean unless like cei comes into here and says "every lore writer has decided, it will be canon the next update and you will read it in game, it is [x time]" then dev quotes usually dont mean much since theyre one of the writers thoughts on the matter

wheat walrus
#

yepp

manic coral
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hi

young socket
#

HOLY SHIT

split mortar
#

Oh hello creature

woeful hatch
manic coral
#

sorry jsut had to say sometghing since i was mentioned

wheat walrus
#

with the timespan calamimi boiling lots of water took it's not too clear, i know cei said 3-5 days but then i hear reb disagrees and idk what stip or anyone else thinks on the matter

cosmic zenith
#

For some reason I'm just in the zone today

split mortar
#

Peak

dusk laurel
#

the dark zone

sinful adder
#

LONG

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I'll say it again, deltarune's idea of how light and darkness affect reality would be peak

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And explain why Xeroc can summon copies of bosses using light

pliant ruin
#

im so excited for sunken cost fallacy overhaul...... for sunkern overhaul...

cosmic zenith
#

:)

#

Which should I spoiler, Lantern Nights or Ghosts....

glacial rampart
cosmic zenith
#

Not a topic I'm writing

#

The topics are split between Cei, Rebecca and I

hybrid barn
#

My vote's on Lantern Nights

cosmic zenith
#

Mine are generally oriented towards worldbuilding, character development, religious/spiritual aspects and ancient history

glacial rampart
#

make it

pliant ruin
#

My vote's on lantern night, i crave amidias characterization

pliant ruin
pliant ruin
cosmic zenith
dusk laurel
#

lanterns are cool i think

glacial rampart
cosmic zenith
#

I can cremate you

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Smh....

glacial rampart
abstract fulcrum
#

will Yharim be a final boss onces we meet him, will calamity end

cosmic zenith
#

Yes and yes

long bloom
#

he'll be added with the dragon aerie, the final guaranteed major update

cosmic zenith
#

There will be a point where the mod is finished and we simply wrap it all up

long bloom
abstract fulcrum
#

we killed the devourer of gods, supreme calamitas, and yharon, he sees us as a threat @cosmic zenith so, once we defeat him, for good, we'll offically beat calamity mod, for good, and calamity mod would end

long bloom
#

the devs may add noxus and xeroc as optional postgame superbosses if they still feel like working on the mod after yharim

cosmic zenith
#

^

long bloom
#

but yharim will be the end of the main story, yes

abstract fulcrum
#

and we would need more gear to stop yharim

pliant ruin
#

What's up with the yt links

abstract fulcrum
#

but the question, when are they relesse the update, nobody knows

pliant ruin
#

When everything else they have planned is done

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Which is a pretty long way

#

Yharim will take a bit

long bloom
#

it's gonna be well over 5 years

long bloom
high lynx
#

Not mine!

pliant ruin
#

do you have lore on youtube dboss sscls

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i forgot you were on thsi server t bh

high lynx
#

Yes

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I think i have three

pliant ruin
#

waow

long bloom
high lynx
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They’re short and i have many improvements i wanna make

pliant ruin
#

ive thought about making lore videos

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unfortunately i do not know how to edit

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by all means, i could learn