howd he tp them there
#lore-discussion
split mortar
No?
pliant ruin
Before the dragons (We know like nothing abt this part)
Dragons reign, dominant species
Moon lord attacks, alot of dragons die, Xeroc becomes the first god and others follow after
"Grey Period", Gods and Dragons coexist. Some Dragons get hunted and their souls are absorbed, but there is a equal balance in political strenght between Gods and Dragons
Divine Era. Dragons are almost all extinct. Gods are the main political force on the world now, albeit unlike Dragons, that were unified under a King, gods are all independent from one another and more like different factions or nations that may ally or oppose with eachother
Yharim is thrown in the lava for refusing to become the king of a specific (Very evil) group of gods. Note this is just a group of gods, not like some organization that ruled over all of them. Alot of ppl miss this
Yharim starts a crusade against the gods alongside Yharon - Both due to wanting vengeance for himself, and for wanting to avenge the Dragons. Permafrost joins him at some point here, and Draedon does shortly after. Azafure would become Yharim's main base of operations.
Sometimes late in the crusade, Azafure is destroyed by Brimmy vs Calamitas, Calamitas is taken into the Yharmy due to her massive power. Permafrost adopts her, a few years later Calamitas incinerates Illmeris. At some point, Permafrost leaves the army, Draedon is kicked out for his experiments with the plague, and Calamitas eventually leaves aswell. The devourer is also hired sometime after Calamitas joins but before she leaves. Yharon stays by Yharim's side, being his best friend and still believing in his ideals.
In the really recent past, Statis and Braelor fight Yharim. They almost win and severely injure him, but he more or less is saved by the Devourer. Yharim goes to Draedon, who he had long cut ties with, to ask for armor enhancements. Draedon abides, likely to get a chance to study his auric armor.
Yharim leaves to the Aaerie to train.
And this is more or less when the game starts
HOLY WALL OF TEXT
RAHHHHHHHHHHHH
split mortar
Cheesetism
mighty zenith
banned
long bloom
wall of text has awoken!
pliant ruin
Ok heres ur timeline @tough path
gritty kraken
Yharim puts god of text in this one
timid pulsar
Before the dragons (We know like nothing abt this part)
Dragons reign, dominant...
Too many symbols
split mortar
are you a frost dragon kinda guy or a flame dragon kinda guy
Im a storm dragon kinda guy
tough path
Whats the lore between slime god and yharim
dusk laurel
Im a storm dragon kinda guy
destroying your floor right now
tough path
did slime god just escape and hide
split mortar
Whats the lore between slime god and yharim
Constantly fled
dusk laurel
did slime god just escape and hide
yep
gritty kraken
are you a frost dragon kinda guy or a flame dragon kinda guy
I’m more of a gluttony guy
split mortar
did slime god just escape and hide
Yup
And endlessly sacrifice the paladins
magic epoch
Slime God: the smart one
mighty zenith
they may be a slimy bitch but theyre also alive so
tough path
wait so did slime god have a paladin from every biome
mighty zenith
better than 99% of gods
faint totem
are you a frost dragon kinda guy or a flame dragon kinda guy
Acid dragon.
dusk laurel
Acid dragon.
💥
split mortar
wait so did slime god have a paladin from every biome
Just constantly making evil paladins i think
timid pulsar
Before the dragons (We know like nothing abt this part)
Dragons reign, dominant...
Now I feel bad for yahron
tough path
in lore I thought crimson and corruption do not co exist
pliant ruin
They both canonically exist yea
tough path
oh
split mortar
They do
mighty zenith
Now I feel bad for yahron
its ok he supports mass genocide
pliant ruin
It's just that (depending on the world u get) only one of them exists on ur area specifically
tough path
yeah
split mortar
Slime god canonically has both paladins
pliant ruin
If u have crimson corruption is canonically just somewhere else
split mortar
Dead
dusk laurel
theyre very dead
split mortar
Hyper dead as fuck
tough path
she necromances them in her fight then yeah
timid pulsar
its ok he supports mass genocide
Isn't yahrim only kills gods?
split mortar
Ye
pliant ruin
They died when azafure was destroyed
Since Calamitas is literally like the most powerful spellcaster in the whole world, her brothers are actually like, the single best necromantic constructs in the whole world
in the sense that
mighty zenith
Isn't yahrim only kills gods?
no
dusk laurel
Isn't yahrim only kills gods?
nope 😊
mighty zenith
but even then, thats also genocide
split mortar
Isn't yahrim only kills gods?
As long as the genocide hurts those who worship gods or hurts the gods its fine
pliant ruin
while most other necromantic constructs/undead are basically mindless (See: Ravager)
Her brothers, while not really quite t hemselves
tough path
yeah
pliant ruin
Retain some consciousness
tough path
yeah
pliant ruin
Enough to willingly protect their sister
tough path
so theyre as close to perfect as yk
pliant ruin
Not because shes controlling them or anything
mighty zenith
even if it was JUST gods he'd still be committing mass genocide
tough path
existing as of now
pliant ruin
Basically yeah
tough path
she revided them well enough that theyre semi independant
but still kinda her slaves
but not
pliant ruin
Still rly flawed and not fully human, but literally as close as it gets bc they still have a bit of their personality
tough path
bc she luv them
timid pulsar
even if it was JUST gods he'd still be committing mass genocide
But gods committed genocide of dragons
long bloom
it's complicated
split mortar
But gods committed genocide of dragons
Gods arent a singular leading entity
tough path
So why does yharon still exist
pliant ruin
Not all dragons were good guys and not all gods killed dragons
dusk laurel
But gods committed genocide of dragons
it was more like poaching
tough path
did he just NOT join in the moon lord fight
mighty zenith
you dont answer genocide with genocide
split mortar
did he just NOT join in the moon lord fight
He did
long bloom
So why does yharon still exist
yharon revives himself infinitely
tough path
Oh he just won
long bloom
no
split mortar
Yharon just survived
dusk laurel
did he just NOT join in the moon lord fight
if yharon died it wouldve been the end for the dragons
gritty kraken
did he just NOT join in the moon lord fight
Either he die or was an egg
pliant ruin
Not all dragons were good guys and not all gods killed dragons
It's entirely possible that some Dragons could've willingly sacrificed themselves for a reason or another, such as believing someone could bring about better change to the world than they could have
gritty kraken
deathray op
long bloom
we dunno
pliant ruin
Yharon is the dragon of rebirth after all
split mortar
So yharon was one of the dragons who beat the ML?
All auric dragons jumped moonlord and then proceeded to get wrecked
gritty kraken
It takes yahron 10+ years to rebirth
tough path
right
pliant ruin
you kill him he returns in ~10 years
timid pulsar
So yharon was one of the dragons who beat the ML?
Zeratros sealed ml
pliant ruin
He likely has died before but never got his soul absorbed so hes still here
mighty zenith
All auric dragons jumped moonlord and then proceeded to get wrecked
ehh more like moon lord jumped them
pliant ruin
Zeratros sealed ml
Nah
split mortar
ehh more like moon lord jumped them
True
pliant ruin
Not Zeratros speciifcally
tough path
So are the lunatic cultists keeping the ML locked away, or are they trying to summon him
split mortar
Auric dragons in general
pliant ruin
So are the lunatic cultists keeping the ML locked away, or are they trying to su...
The former
split mortar
So are the lunatic cultists keeping the ML locked away, or are they trying to su...
Locked away
tough path
Does that make the terrarian a bad guy
long bloom
no
tough path
by butchering them
dusk laurel
necessary evil
split mortar
The terrarians lore is up to you
long bloom
the terrarian is you
dusk laurel
cultists are also kinda questionable too
split mortar
The cultists also like gave yharim a place ti torture people
tough path
Why was it necessary to kill the cultists if they were yk
mighty zenith
it makes the terrarian reckless but
tough path
locking him away
long bloom
to kill ml
mighty zenith
yea cultists were pretty fucked up
tough path
So pretty much we free the moonlord just to kill him
gritty kraken
cultists are also kinda questionable too
They were questionable since vanilla
split mortar
Moonlord would likely free itself eventually
tough path
we summon him to murder him
long bloom
Moonlord would likely free itself eventually
source??
split mortar
source??
Eventually someone else would kill the person keeping the seal up like the terrarian does, if not now then in the future however long
Or someone eventually messing up the maintenance
pliant ruin
We free the moonlord to jump him
tough path
yeah
pliant ruin
poor guy (not really hes a murder maniac
(hes an asshole
Also lunatic cultist is also a pretty bad g uy
tough path
SO ML is or isnt cthulus brother
pliant ruin
He actively helped Yharim
tough path
isnt that vanilla lore
pliant ruin
Chtulhu isn't canon to calamity yea
dusk laurel
cthulhu isnt real
pliant ruin
vanillça stuff
mighty zenith
cthulhu isnt a thing in calamity lore
tough path
right
mighty zenith
well
split mortar
SO ML is or isnt cthulus brother
Cthulhu doesnt exist
And in vanilla ml is cthulhu
mighty zenith
the creature itself isnt
tough path
so in vanilla the whole dryad vs cthulu war
timid pulsar
SO ML is or isnt cthulus brother
Isn't ml is ctulhu
pliant ruin
was basically yharim's war prison
pliant ruin
Isn't ml is ctulhu
Nope
split mortar
Isn't ml is ctulhu
Vanilla
tough path
Isn't ml is ctulhu
no his brother
long bloom
also i made a temporary simplified timeline but the crusade section refuses to be screenshotted so yall just get the first half for now
mighty zenith
"cthulhu" is a word used to describe monstrous beings
pliant ruin
or his brother yea, forgor
mighty zenith
like the eye and brain
tough path
how do you explain the presence of those
split mortar
no his brother
Thats a shitpost from red years before 1.4 says ml is cthulhu
tough path
Eye and brain of cthulu
split mortar
Eye and brain of cthulu
Evil biomes
gritty kraken
They popped up from ground
pliant ruin
Eye of Chtuhlu and Brain of Chtulhu and stuff can just be called that for symbolical reasons, it dosent necessarily mean Chtulhu literally exists yk
long bloom
"cthulhu" is a word used to describe monstrous beings
pluh
pliant ruin
I still dont like the monstrous beings explanation tbh and i think its ocnfusing
pliant ruin
Eye of Chtuhlu and Brain of Chtulhu and stuff can just be called that for symbol...
U can literally just say this
tough path
Eye of Chtuhlu and Brain of Chtulhu and stuff can just be called that for symbol...
In vanilla theyre his actual bodyparts that the dryads ripped apart right
pliant ruin
I think so
long bloom
yes
pliant ruin
In calamity lore uhhh
pliant ruin
Eye of Chtulhu, Eater of Worlds and Brain of Chtulhu are just like
tough path
cause he has a brain and eyes
that just ties into the Cthulis is his brother lore
pliant ruin
The same type of bieng, kinda
mighty zenith
that just ties into the Cthulis is his brother lore
which is fucking stupid
tough path
it makes more sense for ML to be his brother not cthulu himself
split mortar
I thought the eye was just flesh in general from ml
pliant ruin
Conglomerates of the festered divine essence that concentrated into a particularly powerful being
tough path
as the whole yk
pliant ruin
They're no more special tha nlike, Face Monsters or Eaters of Soul
They're just alot stronge
split mortar
it makes more sense for ML to be his brother not cthulu himself
If you search cthulhu in the bestoary ml appears
gritty kraken
where tf did the extra eye and brain come from
I mean he kinda makes a lot of eyes in his fight
Idk about brian
pliant ruin
The big difference beetween evil1 and evil2
tough path
So did DoG create the storm weaver or is it like his bitch
pliant ruin
is that evil1 r just random monsters born from the evil biomes, again no more special than any of the other enemies, just stronger
mighty zenith
vanilla lore was thrown together for fun and didnt have much thought put into it
thats all rly
dusk laurel
So did DoG create the storm weaver or is it like his bitch
storm weaver is a separate animal
pliant ruin
meanwhile evil2 are amalgamations of the remains of gods, being way more unique in that regard
gritty kraken
So did DoG create the storm weaver or is it like his bitch
Random homeless guy who followed him to terraria I think
pliant ruin
storm weaver isn't alligned with DoG
split mortar
So did DoG create the storm weaver or is it like his bitch
Storm weaver is a random super apex predator that escaped the noxus hivemind and is wrecking havoc to the distortion iirc
pliant ruin
they both come from the distortion though
and yeah, Storm weaver is fully independent
mighty zenith
theyre not dog's servants
pliant ruin
They're prob getting their own spawn method later
tough path
Ceaseless // Signus // Storm
pliant ruin
Like each one of them getting their own summon method
tough path
ah
split mortar
Rune of kos guys are no longer related to dog and will eventually get unique summon methods
tough path
his rival
pliant ruin
honestly way more imposing than dog is
gritty kraken
Pre Providence stormweaver tomorrow
tough path
Storm weavers lore makes it out to be like the DoG's king
split mortar
Signus is the same sort of being as noxus
mighty zenith
providence tomorrow
tough path
eats fucking dying stars
timid pulsar
2.1 tommorow
pliant ruin
eats fucking dying stars
nop that's deus
split mortar
eats fucking dying stars
Thats deus and fallen stars are actual stars
pliant ruin
deus eats stars yea
tough path
ohh
pliant ruin
but keep in mind by stars it means like
th fallen stars u see
mana stars basically
not like
tough path
oh
pliant ruin
irl stars made of helium and stuff
tough path
like the little stars
pliant ruin
yeye
tough path
not actual suns
split mortar
Theres no confirmation of a star like irl existing
tough path
BORINGGGG
split mortar
The sun is different to irl stars
mighty zenith
killing people. with hammer
long bloom
mana is stored in the bones
pliant ruin
The calamity sun is not like the real sun yeah
tough path
Theres no confirmation of a star like irl existing
Sir if you look up during the hours of 5am - 7 PM in game
split mortar
The sun is different to irl stars
Its weird and magic and orbits the planet
dusk laurel
nagel and hammer
pliant ruin
it's more of a magical thing
tough path
Whys it magical
long bloom
because it is
split mortar
Sir if you look up during the hours of 5am - 7 PM in game
Those are not fallen stars
dusk laurel
Sir if you look up during the hours of 5am - 7 PM in game
the sun is actually moon sized
pliant ruin
It's made of primordial light which is some primordial super powerful energy which only a few can channel
split mortar
Whys it magical
Who knows
pliant ruin
It's a very big deal
gritty kraken
I believe more of primordial light sun exist in other parts of the universe and it allow life to show up and stuff
mighty zenith
Whys it magical
because its a fantasy world
dusk laurel
and orbits the planet
pliant ruin
We dunno much abt it atm
mighty zenith
theres magic and stuff
tough path
because its a fantasy world
smart
split mortar
Calamity had the ability to make a wacky cosmos and so did
pliant ruin
There is no like
tough path
who would win:
Demigod teenager with massive powers
Space gun fueled by weird stars and held buy some fuckass dude in draedons armour
pliant ruin
proof of normal ass stars existing but nothing is saying they cant exist either
split mortar
Theres no thing as demigod
pliant ruin
so i personally believe that normal ass irl helium stars exist
its just that
vgery specifically the sun is different and unique + mana stars exist too
just a headcanon of mine byea
i think mana stars and helium stars both exist and r just separate things
and hte sun is its own fucked up magical thing
mighty zenith
theres nothing stating freddy fazbear's pizza doesnt exist in calamity
dusk laurel
true
pliant ruin
stabs garbo 33 times
tough path
Theres no lore stating the planet earth doesnt exist right
mighty zenith
not good enough
tough path
or is there
split mortar
Theres no lore stating the planet earth doesnt exist right
The planet we play on is called terraria
dusk laurel
terraria
mighty zenith
terraria
pliant ruin
but uh the planet. it exists. ur on it.
tough path
Point to me where it states that the events of the star wars canonical universe did not exist or occur
pliant ruin
well martian canonically exist so close neough maybe?
tough path
🧌
mighty zenith
well martian canonically exist so close neough maybe?
amnog us
mighty zenith
would palpatine just fry him from the inside
timid pulsar
Yharim vs Emperor palpatine
Xerok vs ?
split mortar
Idk where palp scales but yharim can one shot a city
gritty kraken
y’all got any polter power scaling
tough path
Idk where palp scales but yharim can one shot a city
Palp in lore is more powerful than the creator
hes him
peak
number 1
he can create or destroy fiction
mighty zenith
split mortar
y’all got any polter power scaling
Above weaver who is city level
tough path
and like
snow mountain
mighty zenith
dud dot gif
tough path
In lore palp (if I remember rightly) is stated to be able to create dimentions and verses
so
long bloom
whuh
tough path
I think palp shitstomps yharim
timid pulsar
Above weaver who is city level
How Weaver is city level
pliant ruin
yeah from what you're saying
gritty kraken
Sky island
split mortar
How Weaver is city level
The storm it creates omni scaled
pliant ruin
its not really trying to be a crazy strong verse with universal beings that explode planets and stuff becasue that'd lessen the impact of the story its trying to tell yk
tough path
palpatine would turn yharim into a fine dust
Theres lots of lore from palp in which he does stuff like cause a zillo beast (something probs equal to yharim or stronger) to kill itself with pure manipulation
pliant ruin
The storm it creates omni scaled
omni is gonna kill you
split mortar
Why its relevant to the convo
tough path
he convices this primordian moon lord like being to commit suicide by telepathically shit talking it
dusk laurel
melon gun trying to explain powerscaling 
tough path
its not really trying to be a crazy strong verse with universal beings that expl...
true yeah
Star wars tends to more of a ''yeah this guy is stonger than the depictions of the christian god''
whereas calamity is much more ''this is real shit''
pliant ruin
its not really trying to be a crazy strong verse with universal beings that expl...
Everything in calamity generally is limited in strenght to being able to affect the world itself rather than like being on a more cosmic scale, Xeroc is the unarguably strongest character atm and i believeeee he's probably not going to be able to do cosmic level stuff eihter but we dunno much abt him rn
tough path
barring the whole magic and dragons
gritty kraken
Planet level old puke
tough path
Is old duke duke fishrons dad
dusk laurel
nope
tough path
Boring
pliant ruin
old duke lore is unironically the most unexpectedly awesome shit ever
tough path
what is his lore
timid pulsar
The storm it creates omni scaled
clamitas is boundless
pliant ruin
like you see a brown duke fishron and go oh this guy is boring
but well
first of all
split mortar
clamitas is boundless
City level
tough path
clamitas is boundless
She is NOT boundless broski
gritty kraken
clamitas is boundless
pliant ruin
hes not gonna be a fishron anymore
tough path
SCAL is NOT a fucking boundless being
pliant ruin
future updates will completely lean into the dragon aspect of him
hes gonna be entirely redesigned and stuff
tough path
kinda
timid pulsar
She is NOT boundless broski
Clamitas is a shit like calamitas + giant clam
You didn't get the joke
pliant ruin
basically
tough path
like the half dragons
pliant ruin
"dragons" that didn't really get the auric soul, they were born afterwards or are descendants of the true auric dragons
tough path
halfbloods
gritty kraken
like you see a brown duke fishron and go oh this guy is boring
I’m quiet fonded with this stupid brown fishron
tough path
theyre the kinda weaker modern dragons
pliant ruin
not necessarily weaker tbf
Some offshoots are stronger than alot of auric dragons
but they all share the single weakness over auric dragons
pliant ruin
That the don't have an auric soul and thus dont have the same like, domain power
tough path
the one that lives in the bottom of the fuckass abyss (at least in infenrum)
pliant ruin
Objectively speaking, any offshoot WOULD be stronger with an auric soul, but them lacking an auric soul also dosent necessarily make them weakert bc they can be strong in other ways
anyways
old duke was one of the very first offshoots
gritty kraken
the prymordial wyrm is like
Silva guard dog
pliant ruin
he is a direct descendat of an auric dragon
if he had just been born a little earlier
split mortar
The fact jared is nearly as strong as zeratros while being an offshoot and zeratros is the strongest auric dragon ever is funny
pliant ruin
he would've gotten an auric soul
but because was born without one
he was kinda shunned by alot of his auric peers
and treated as an outcast
magic epoch
y'know maybe old duke should receive aquatic scourge's theme
pliant ruin
this caused him to kind of hate auric dragons
gritty kraken
Outcast of the sulphur sea real
long bloom
he would've gotten an auric soul
this is entirely reb's headcanon iirc
pliant ruin
no thats not a hedacnon thats literally his entire deal
he was one of the first offshoots
like thats literally stated ingame
anyways
pliant ruin
this caused him to kind of hate auric dragons
Old Duke would then end up rulling over the sulphur sea as his domain
And over the years
He would basically entirely prioritize his survival
Dragon hunters (who coudlnt really tell he dindt have an auric soul) would try killing him
But he'd continuosly survive and beat them
He'd also eventually start enslaving creatures to act as his minions (Probably weaker dragon offshoots iirc?)
Overall he's just
- Insanely badass because he has lived for INSANELY LONG and won against all the hunters taht tried to kill him
- Has a very ironic twist to his story because he didn't have an auric soul but managed to outlive all his auric peers and grow into being basically stronger than almost all of them
- And my favorite part, he is a living contradiction to Yharim's ideology that dragon = good and god = bad. Old Duke is as close as you can possibly get in the current era to a real auric dragon besides Yharon himself, and he is a evil ruthless bastard who basically only cares about his own survival, and worst of all, LITERALLY ENSLAVES THINGS, the thing yharim DESPISES and KICKED DRAEDON OUT for
old duke lore is uniornically just fucking awesome and its crazy because while he'll get a full on redesign later right now he fucking
looks like t his
tough path
Old duke lore is sigma
timid pulsar
looks like t his
He has a beard
gritty kraken
There’s also this little thing I like about this iffy design
Being the fact that he’s smaller than Duke fishron if I remember correctly
tough path
So wait
flew over my head
Queen bee is Plaguebringer
oLike the minibosses
not the goliath
pliant ruin
Plaguebringer Goliath is a cyborg queen bee that is like, the central hub of the plague
Plaguebringer (normal) is a queen bee infected by the plague
gritty kraken
Queen bee is Plaguebringer
I think so
Goliath is prob the one draedon engineered specifically
split mortar
Yeah
timid pulsar
Plaguebringer Goliath is a cyborg queen bee that is like, the central hub of the...
Where do draedon contains all his plague before player kills the golem
split mortar
Its not contained
tough path
So what is the purpose of the plague did he just do it for shits and gigs
split mortar
So what is the purpose of the plague did he just do it for shits and gigs
To see if he can control organic life
tough path
Right
timid pulsar
So what is the purpose of the plague did he just do it for shits and gigs
Control of alive creatures
tough path
So he did it to see if hes able to control life itself
split mortar
Cause in normal mechs draedon saw the souls controlling the machines
tough path
I take it he isnt
split mortar
He is
tough path
Cause in normal mechs draedon saw the souls controlling the machines
yeah
oh he DOES control the plague
mighty zenith
well
tough path
does it piss him off when we kill plaguebringer goliath?
or is he like
eh
whatever
pliant ruin
He wanted to experiment with controlling organic life yeah
Because of how hard to control the mechs were due to the whole Having Human Souls thing and how they kind of just did what they wanted to do, Draedon was interested in a way to supress free will to make beings more obedient
timid pulsar
How cal lore looked like before draedon was presented as a boss
split mortar
The plague has autonomy but he built that in instead of having it completely under control like telling what each one cell to do
gritty kraken
unrelated to current topic but I kinda headcanon these as the looks of those 2 auric dragons
pliant ruin
He dosen't really care because he has sort of stopped working on the plague + Iirc the dev plans are that the plague will have gotten out of control (Possibly due to the Player's own actions) so he'd probably have put an end to it if we didn't anyways
young socket
unrelated to current topic but I kinda headcanon these as the looks of those 2 a...
u mean flame n death?
gritty kraken
Yea
tough path
He dosen't really care because he has sort of stopped working on the plague + Ii...
Ah so he kinda is like ''whew saved me a job''
split mortar
If it gets out of control he has a kill switch that will kill the plague very quickly
tough path
I really hope theres some lore where draedon kinda sides with us fully
pliant ruin
possibly ya
tough path
I know he is like
some sigma lone wolf
but seeing as he would be able to see we are far more powerful than yharim
gritty kraken
Draedating sim
pliant ruin
By the endgame Draedon is basically just going
tough path
like at least have him as an NPC we can use to make us shit
timid pulsar
but seeing as he would be able to see we are far more powerful than yharim
Draedon NPC
tough path
like he did for yharim
robust osprey
exo pet
gritty kraken
he gave you the forge
pliant ruin
"yeah uh go beat up yharim ill be watching. heres have some cool stuff to beat him up with (gives us the recipe for dreadons forge so we can make miracle matter n stuff)"
split mortar
like at least have him as an NPC we can use to make us shit
We can talk to draedon
Draetalk
timid pulsar
I think draedon can travel in the space
gritty kraken
I think that’s good enough
tough path
"yeah uh go beat up yharim ill be watching. heres have some cool stuff to beat h...
Ts would be what I want
pliant ruin
after the fight
timid pulsar
And he probably has a better base than wooden box
split mortar
Ts would be what I want
Its in game
robust osprey
Ts would be what I want
literally what happens
tough path
''Yeah listen to fuck up yahrim please hes a bit of a prick''
''Here ill give you some shit''
As an actual npc in some weird palace or lab or some shit
split mortar
''Yeah listen to fuck up yahrim please hes a bit of a prick''
''Here ill give y...
Less so cause prick but cause the publics reaction would be interesting
pliant ruin
He dosen't directly help us but he gives us the forge which allows us to make alot of endgame gear
tough path
like we have to re build his labs that we kinda fucked up
pliant ruin
As an actual npc in some weird palace or lab or some shit
Not really but
tough path
and give him back his shit
pliant ruin
you have like
a whole dialogue tree iwth him
if u interact with the codebreaker after the exo mechs fight
tough path
My question is why does he give us his chair
gritty kraken
how yall think draedon treated his employees back then
split mortar
Yeah he has a lotta dialogue
pliant ruin
how yall think draedon treated his employees back then
Tbh
tough path
is it HIS ONE specifically
pliant ruin
Probably well
tough path
or
split mortar
My question is why does he give us his chair
Same reason everything else
To help us equal yharim
pliant ruin
The employees probably did good work
So Draedon would want to give them support so they keep doing good work
gritty kraken
I wonder if they’re still alive
timid pulsar
if u interact with the codebreaker after the exo mechs fight
Isn't it broken in current calamity version? I tried but never got the actual talk
pliant ruin
Good financial compensation and qquality of life i imagine
split mortar
The yharim fight (unless you make it otherwise) will be the clash between 2 legendary figures of equal might that the outcome may decide how the future goes
gritty kraken
better than being a soldier in yharmy probably
pliant ruin
he said it himself, having other people helping him out actually made him far more productive, so he definitely did value the presence of others
Even if puely from a efficience standpoint
pliant ruin
better than being a soldier in yharmy probably
Both were probably really good tbh
Yharim was a massive manipulator and propagandist, he'd want his army to have amazing living conditions
split mortar
A soldier in the yharmy got treated well
pliant ruin
so that people are incentivizied to join it
If his army's living conditions were horrible ppl wouldnt have flocked to it like vultures to a corpse
split mortar
If not the moral battle then the logical battle of you getting tech from 2300
pliant ruin
yep ^
tough path
IK i cant say this and might be in deep shit but
The way yharim run his army would probably have been like how the ||no no austrian painter|| ran the Reicharmy and had all the liebendsprograms (good living programs) for the soldiers
split mortar
When your armour gives you ac so you can walk in a boiling desert easily
pliant ruin
he'd want his soldiers to have good living conditions, and probably the better of a fighter you were the better living conditions youd have, so that way they are incentiivzed to do a good job
split mortar
Lots of food, tech to do jobs man power isnt needed and always having good comfort
While others are in 1800s of tech
gritty kraken
Not sayin yhar soldiers got a horrid life but like
From what I’ve seen from draedon themed furniture those scientists are livin great
split mortar
The average soldier had the early hardmode arsenal gear iirc
magic epoch
should've used purple phasesabers
gritty kraken
Yea
pliant ruin
we know they had both frontline soldiers and gunners who used ranged weaponry
they definitely had mages too yea
magic epoch
the terrarian doesn't necessarily do that anyways
tough path
we know they had both frontline soldiers and gunners who used ranged weaponry
Would yharim of like DESPISED summoners
and shit
bc yk
slavery
young socket
no because u arent making slaves
pliant ruin
i think prob not bc summoners arent rly enslaving any actual beings
pliant ruin
Theyre just like magic projections
dusk laurel
evidently not since there are arsenal weapons that are summoner
pliant ruin
not rly living things
split mortar
and he also despised all the necromancy right
Nop
dusk laurel
no?
young socket
no
tough path
I thought he was very anti necromancy
pliant ruin
nah he dosent rly care about necromancy
dusk laurel
calamitas literally uses necromany
pliant ruin
in fact yeah cal was one of his strongest assets and shes a necromancer
robust osprey
he hates ravager but not beacuse it has been necromanced
split mortar
he hates ravager but not beacuse it has been necromanced
Due to being a god
gritty kraken
Souls
tough path
or just any mega powerful being
tough path
Being that we kill the slime god are we technincally a god?
dusk laurel
if they conaumed an auric soul or not
pliant ruin
Gods are any beings that absorbed an auric soul and ascended to godhood, inhereting the powers of the auric's soul domain in some capacity
dusk laurel
we dont consume it
pliant ruin
Nope
gritty kraken
The slime god had a god auric soul
We just killed the guy
tough path
COULD we consume it
pliant ruin
Gods no longer have auric souls, they have divine souls
tough path
though
gritty kraken
Didn’t absorb anything
pliant ruin
Auric souls belong to the dragons
dusk laurel
COULD we consume it
no
gritty kraken
Gods no longer have auric souls, they have divine souls
Yeah
pliant ruin
When a god absrobs it
dusk laurel
we dont know the ritual
pliant ruin
it gets basically "fused" with their own soul
And due to essentially being 2 souls in 1
gritty kraken
Also eating dragonfruit ≠ turning into a god btw
pliant ruin
It ends up being pretty unstable
So when the god dies and its no longer holding up the soul together
tough path
Also eating dragonfruit ≠ turning into a god btw
So we are a god
pliant ruin
it just kinda blows up in divine essence
tough path
or wait no
gritty kraken
≠
tough path
yeah no
pliant ruin
why would you say that
tough path
nvm
pliant ruin
who would ever think that
😭
like dragonfruit is a real fruit i think most people know that
gritty kraken
oh yeah
tough path
Im fully an auric god irl
dusk laurel
sacred strawberry my beloved
gritty kraken
Dragon fruit
tough path
I ate one once
gritty kraken
They’re both real
pliant ruin
it just kinda blows up in divine essence
Anyways the divine essence that comes from a dead god, if left around for too long, can start affecting the ambient around it
and its how stuff like the evil biomes happen
split mortar
You need to use the ritual (we dont know) on an auric soul (we dont have)
tough path
and its how stuff like the evil biomes happen
ahh
tough path
You need to use the ritual (we dont know) on an auric soul (we dont have)
We do have the soul from the slime god
pliant ruin
The only way for the terrarian to become a god with the current state of things would be
tough path
just not the tirual
split mortar
We do have the soul from the slime god
No
pliant ruin
- Killing Yharon
- Consuming his soul
tough path
wed need to figure out the ritual no
pliant ruin
Which we can't do 2. bc we dunno the ritual
split mortar
God souls just kinda explode into god essence iirc
pliant ruin
Yeah god souls arent auric souls
dusk laurel
its a god
split mortar
Why doesnt the slime god count as a god
It does
pliant ruin
Only auric dragons have auric souls
split mortar
Gods dont have auric souls
pliant ruin
not gods
tough path
so then how are gods... gods
pliant ruin
When a god absrobs it
.
tough path
if only dragons have the sould
So a PERSON kills a dragon
absorbs the DRAGON soul
then becomes a god
gritty kraken
yea
split mortar
The souls fuse and become something different to both components
split mortar
Hydrogen and oxygen are separate to water
pliant ruin
those guys could theoretically become gods too
gritty kraken
Slime god was a person melted into a slime orb I think
pliant ruin
humans, goblins, lihzahrds, illmerans
tough path
An alive being must kill a dragon and absorb its sousl
pliant ruin
all valid options for beings that could ascend bc theyre sapient
dusk laurel
soul + auric soul = god soul
tough path
doesnt yharon have a soul
dusk laurel
yes
cloud ibex
yes
split mortar
Yes but it teleports to the aerie
tough path
we kill him no?
dusk laurel
yes
tough path
oh he doesnt die he just fucks off
cloud ibex
his soul instant transmissions away whenever he dies
cosmic zenith
You don't know how to absorb the soul
split mortar
Yes but it teleports to the aerie
Thats why the guy is alive
On death the soul fucks off unlike other dragons
cloud ibex
all you get are shavings off of his soul
pliant ruin
Yharon is actually the only theoretical source of an auric soul we have
cosmic zenith
Yeah
pliant ruin
If we somehow learnt the ritual, he'd be our only gateway into ascending
Thing is unfortunately the only people who know the ritual most likely wouldn't tell us
tough path
You don't know how to absorb the soul
I'll learn 🧌
Ill ask draedon that guy knows fucking everything
robust osprey
trial and error until you absorb it
robust osprey
Ill ask draedon that guy knows fucking everything
he doesnt
tough path
hed prolly figure it out
pliant ruin
Silva is not really able to communicate
Xeroc would probably be iffy about telling you how to, seeing as i imagine the guy is already feelingg pretty guilty as is for inadvertedly causing the extinction of the dragons, which he once was loyal to
Yharim no lmao
split mortar
Only the gods, yharon yharim and big maybe perma know it
gritty kraken
Just ask Yharim politely
split mortar
None have reason to tell us
tough path
I doubt draedon is incapable of figuring it out
robust osprey
calm down provi with a yuri manga and ask her to tell you, simple
split mortar
I doubt draedon is incapable of figuring it out
Draedon has trouble understanding magic due to its less logical nature iirc
gritty kraken
shockwave
split mortar
Draedon has trouble understanding magic due to its less logical nature iirc
Mentioned in draetalk i thinm
cloud ibex
I doubt draedon is incapable of figuring it out
he doesn't exactly have much of a big sample group to try it out on
dusk laurel
draedon would rather study the soul than give it to someone for ascension
tough path
he doesn't exactly have much of a big sample group to try it out on
Well if we slay yharim
or like
beat yharim
gritty kraken
Fuse it with a machine and see how it goes
dusk laurel
beat yharim
no you kill
tough path
maybe he could ask nicely
robust osprey
we will kill yharim
split mortar
We will kill
tough path
Ill make him my bitch instead
split mortar
The guy doesnt care about dying
tough path
make him tell me
gritty kraken
He’d kill himself
tough path
Fear RP 🧌
split mortar
He would kill himself before telling you
robust osprey
if you win and dont kill him he would probably do it himself
cloud ibex
not really
robust osprey
just ask jared 
split mortar
Signus is like all powerful isnt he
No just very powerful
gritty kraken
don’t deal with the devil
split mortar
make me a god and in exchange ''blahblahg''
Cost
Every organ and you die instantly
gritty kraken
I think cuphead said that
split mortar
Also signus prob cant just do that
tough path
Signus is supposedly able to do fucking anything
robust osprey
he could give you the knowledge maybe
but that leads to the "how do I kill yharon" problem
tough path
guy brought someone back from the distortion and his lore states he is omnipresent
split mortar
Dog can also drag people out the distortion
tough path
he could give you the knowledge maybe
but that leads to the "how do I kill yharo...
Ask signus 🧌
split mortar
Also we kill signus orobably
tough path
Dog can also drag people out the distortion
DOG lives there and has portals to it whereas signus is more just
gritty kraken
Ask noxus for some souls he’s Signus buddy I’m sure he’ll help
tough path
like super omnipresent
pliant ruin
Also we kill signus orobably
❌
split mortar
DOG lives there and has portals to it whereas signus is more just
Signus is a being of both the distortion and out world
pliant ruin
There have been multiple dev statements saying he probably wont die
It's not confirmed of course
But it seems pretty likely taht we wont
split mortar
There have been multiple dev statements saying he probably wont die
Emphasis on probably in both our messages
gritty kraken
Kinda funky how slime god escaped us and not Signus rn
pliant ruin
dude thats
thats literally the opposite
im saying he probably wont die
youre saying he'll probably die
you cannot have two different clashing options be probable
thats
tahts not how that works
pliant ruin
he probably wont
tough path
the guys omnipresent
split mortar
I will kill signus myself
split mortar
Anything signus can do noxus can do but more no? Same sort of beings
split mortar
and knows everything
We dunno that part
gritty kraken
What if we actually kill Signus in noxus fight
pliant ruin
devs said that his fight will (most likely, keep in mind this isnt confirmed but they are plans that they seemingly want to implement) not end in his death but rather baiscally with us making a deal with him, and if we win we get what we want
He's not omniscient no
He does know alot of shit but its likely due to him just being
incredibly old eldritch being from another dimension who regularly makes deals with people from this world to obtain knoweldge and power and whatnot
hes basically just distortion satan
pliant ruin
yep
split mortar
Yeah signus took those as payment for leaving
pliant ruin
statis quite literally made a deal with signus to get out of the distortion at acost of a
of literally a arm and a leg
tough path
to escape the place
gritty kraken
Replaced with shadowy limbs I think
gritty kraken
Signus is so kind
robust osprey
signus is chill
dusk laurel
the guys omnipresent
❓
split mortar
Appearing in multiple places doesnt mean is everywhere
But is still very fucking weird
tough path
my shit crashed lol
anyway im back
so
it states in lore that statis made a deal to get out
but he traded and arm and a leg
in the lore article from the game it states he made a deal with signus and lost nothing physically on the way out
''He escaped unscathed''
unscathed meaning unharmed untouched
gritty kraken
Lore rewrite tomorrow literally unplayable
young socket
''He escaped unscathed''
yharim didnt know the details of how statis got out
i doubt yharim even knows he has robotic limbs
gritty kraken
Heard we’ll summon Signus like we did with skeletron but with statis
but i probably made that up
tough path
yharim didnt know the details of how statis got out
Yet, Statis must have struck a bargain with Signus. He escaped his banishment unscathed.
split mortar
unscathed meaning unharmed untouched
Yeah statis got replacement shadow limbs
tough path
He knows signus let him out
young socket
Yet, Statis must have struck a bargain with Signus. He escaped his banishment un...
yes... the...
details
young socket
he knew he had to strike a bargain but he had no idea wat the bargain was except that statis was free
tough path
as In this goofy old lore Signus serves DoG or whatever
cloud ibex
why would he ask statis
tough path
why would he ask statis
No hed ask signus or DoG to tell him what it cost (if he got curious ig)
Actually can signus even talk
young socket
dog wouldnt know
tough path
how do you communicate with signus
cloud ibex
yharim barely trusts DoG at all
young socket
and how tf would he ask signus
dusk laurel
why would yharim ask signus
cloud ibex
i doubt he'd trust Signus either
gritty kraken
Yharim got no one but yharo
tough path
and how tf would he ask signus
My question
How the fuck do you like communicate with signus
telepathy?
gritty kraken
Cloak with teeth
split mortar
The guy lacks hands its just mouth
tough path
but how can it vocalise
you dont talk from your mouth
you talk from your voicebox
words dont just formulate in your mouth
dusk laurel
voicebox....
gritty kraken
Best to not question distortion creatures anatomy I think
dusk laurel
fiend inside me
tough path
Leave it at ''its a all knowing god thing leave him alone''
signus is chill like that
although he PMO when im farming in hell and he flys past in patrol mode
and stops all enemy spawns
fuckass bitch not letting me farm bloodstone
dusk laurel
this is the strangest signus headcanon ive ever seen
gritty kraken
It’s funny
tough path
this is the strangest signus headcanon ive ever seen
''it has been reported to manifest in multiple places at once''
Lore in game states signus can be in multiple places at one time (its reported to do so)
therefor
omnipresence??
dusk laurel
no...
tough path
To be in multiple places at once is to be omnipresent
tough path
how
cloud ibex
draedon is an AI he can just control multiple bodies at once
in fact he probably does
tough path
doesnt mean hes a god-like entity
hes like 100000 years old incinveable an AI and is all knowing through his research
hes practically god like
split mortar
in fact he probably does
Id be surprised if he doesnt
cloud ibex
i wouldn't be surprised if one or more of his other bodies are off doing something while he watches you fight
dusk laurel
hes like 100000 years old incinveable an AI and is all knowing through his resea...
hes only 600 years old
split mortar
hes like 100000 years old incinveable an AI and is all knowing through his resea...
draedon is ~660 old iirc
tough path
he is effectively all knowing due to his research
gritty kraken
i wouldn't be surprised if one or more of his other bodies are off doing somethi...
Talking to another guy who want Yharim dead on the other side of terraria
tough path
hes only 600 years old
still invinceible so he WONT die
therefor yk
he WILL BE at some point 100000 years old
unless he was to choose to kill himself I guess
cloud ibex
oldest character we know of would probably be yharon
i wouldn't be surprised if noxus is another contender for that role but we know jack shit about noxus so we can't say for sure
tough path
In lore
Wait you guys said Yharon and yharim are like
best pals
in lore yharim states Yharon fucked off and those two arent friends anymore
cloud ibex
no
he just says yharon left
they're still friends, but he knows they won't see each other again on account of yharim most likely dying before Yharon has time to come back
tough path
ah
he says he ..bade me ferwell
thats like a final goodbye
Actually yeah bc we kill yharon as well
thats 10 years in egg form now isnt it
so yharim will never see him again
cloud ibex
yes
tough path
Yharons in egg mode for a while now and yharim is abt to get cooked (by us)
long bloom
correct
cloud ibex
and even if we in theory wouldn't kill him he'd die of old age
the Attunement has kept him alive far longer than the average person but the dude is still 130 years old he doesn't have much time left
tough path
In lore why does Yharim seem so sad about how he treated SCAL
long bloom
he still has morals
they just are shit most of the time
tough path
I thought yharim is peak evil in all of fiction
purebred menace and evil
he seems so upset in his lore
abt how he treated her
''the weight of her deeds haunts her to this day. She despises me, and I cannot blame her.
Please, if you would... show her respect where I did not.''
tough path
he's not ontologically evil
just a massive douchebag
Who is like the peak evil then
moonlord
tough path
he is capable of good
True (his anti slavery stance)
long bloom
i guess
dusk laurel
providence is right there
dusk laurel
yes
long bloom
oh yeah i forgot her
tough path
ik she like absorbed her pussy people cult
cloud ibex
In lore why does Yharim seem so sad about how he treated SCAL
cause he made a mentally scarred teenager into a child soldier for years and then told her to kill her adoptive father figure
long bloom
she's probably the evilest god
long bloom
there's also the god of dogma
cloud ibex
yharim is up there but he falls short because he has some standards
long bloom
fuck that guy
tough path
Is providence more powerful than moonlord (dumb question but still interested)
cloud ibex
there's also the god of dogma
i can't speak on that i don't have insider knowledge
cloud ibex
Is providence more powerful than moonlord (dumb question but still interested)
by the time you fight both? yes
long bloom
it's not insider
tough path
by the time you fight both? yes
In their primes
long bloom
triangle talked about it
cloud ibex
at ML's prime? absolutely not
tough path
like peak of their abilities
Surely ML is immense
Would prime ML fuck up SCAL?
like dragon war ML
long bloom
yeah
cloud ibex
prime ML is far above literally everyone except for Xeroc
tough path
who is xeroc then
long bloom
the only being that could have a chance at beating prime ml is xeroc
he obliterates everyone else
tough path
the only being that could have a *chance* at beating prime ml is xeroc
What about the terrarian post SCAL
or still no
dusk laurel
definitely not
cloud ibex
who is xeroc then
the God of Primordial Light (sunlight except with a fancier name, essentially)
long bloom
still no
cloud ibex
the first person to become a god, ever
light linden
the only being that could have a *chance* at beating prime ml is xeroc
I uh
didn't a dev say that the exo mechs and prime fovos were roughly the same level?
long bloom
who is xeroc then
read the prelude and requiem lore items
dusk laurel
no?????
long bloom
didn't a dev say that the exo mechs and prime fovos were roughly the same level?
the fuck
robust osprey
didn't a dev say that the exo mechs and prime fovos were roughly the same level?
hell no
long bloom
no
dusk laurel
prime ml is above noxus
light linden
ok nvm
eager folio
didn't a dev say that the exo mechs and prime fovos were roughly the same level?
I'm gonna say no just because that would be hilariously against everything else that's been established
long bloom
prime fovos superboss when
FUTURE BOSSE-💥
dusk laurel
prime fovos superboss when
new addon lets go
tough path
prime ml is above noxus
You think so?
long bloom
it's a fact
eager folio
prime fovos superboss when
WotG better get on this 🗣
tough path
What made him so weak the being ripped apart thing or being locked on the moon
hows that work
long bloom
yeah prime fovos is john get-fucked
light linden
WotG better get on this 🗣
wotg supposedly isn't gonna be for calamity eventually
it's gonna be for fables
cloud ibex
What made him so weak the being ripped apart thing or being locked on the moon
being disembowelled, torn in half, having his skull cracked open and being put in gay baby moon jail for centuries
robust osprey
What made him so weak the being ripped apart thing or being locked on the moon
yeah I think losing your vital organs and half your body generally makes you weaker
tough path
yeah I think losing your vital organs and half your body generally makes you wea...
Yeah ngl prolly
light linden
I still think fovos is literally just a ghost
long bloom
??
tough path
being disembowelled, torn in half, having his skull cracked open and being put i...
Gay baby moon jail 😭
cloud ibex
i don't think that would make much sense
eager folio
it's gonna be for fables
Yknow, good for them. As long as they don't just remove what exists now to do this change, I'll support it, cause more awesome content is still more awesome content
long bloom
absolutely nothing
robust osprey
In lore whats going on with planterra
big plant
eager folio
Plant waifu
long bloom
plantera will get actual lore in the future
robust osprey
related to vernal pass which may or may not be related to lihzahrd society
tough path
Plant waifu
mummy plant
eager folio
plantera will get actual lore in the future
The big 2035
cloud ibex
and i think the ML you fight being brutalized and near death yet still falling among the upper echelon of beings in the universe in terms of power is much sicker than him in theory just being a jhost
tough path
related to vernal pass which may or may not be related to lihzahrd society
I allign with Yharim and I am a fellow lizhard racist (fuck the temple)
cloud ibex
radahn energy kinda
gritty kraken
In lore whats going on with planterra
Dude tried to make a perfect plant to fight zombies and messed up
tough path
1 trillion traps
pliant ruin
absolutely nothing
the suspiciously plantera lore whisper shaped item in my inventory
robust osprey
I allign with Yharim and I am a fellow lizhard racist (fuck the temple)
I am legally forced to kill you
long bloom
speaking of future content
i made this for convenience
robust osprey
Dude tried to make a perfect plant to fight zombies and messed up
carnivore plant went too far
tough path
I wanna see how this palworld crossover effects calamity ngl
long bloom
it won't
dusk laurel
crossover content isnt canon
tough path
not even in the slightest
long bloom
all crossover or reference content doesn't exist
tough path
will they not bother making new lore for it or whatever
split mortar
What about the terrarian post SCAL
Zeratros is comparable to yharim and an entire civilisation of super magic dragons was helping the guy and still died
tough path
like a lore item
cloud ibex
will they not bother making new lore for it or whatever
they will not
dusk laurel
no
split mortar
Reference or crossover contenr is not canon
dusk laurel
all crossover content isnt canon and its a massive headache to try to make any sense of it
robust osprey
Reference or crossover contenr is not canon
or donor/dev item
tough path
Zeratros is comparable to yharim and an entire civilisation of super magic drago...
Terrarian with someone capable of no hitting any bossfight:
Surely technically the terrarian is boundless in power
cloud ibex
trying to make normal calamity lore is enough work without also having to figure out a way to fit deerclops and the old one's army and whatever bullshit the palworld crossover will bring in there in a good way
split mortar
Terrarian with someone capable of no hitting any bossfight:
Moonlord can heal
long bloom
deerclops doesn't exist
ooa doesn't exist
tavernkeep doesn't exist
murasama doesn't exist
pumpkin and frost moons don't exist