lore-discussion

[frosty cave]

so we did kill a god

[split mortar]

Providence and ravager are gods aswell

Ravager being an undead one

[frosty cave]

then are the bosses we fight after providence stronger lore wise or what

[split mortar]

Yeah

[prisma wharf]

If yharim kills gods, we do to, then did we walk the same kind of path as him?

[split mortar]

God doesnt mean they are the strongest of that thing

[split mortar]

Do you cause the death of half the global population and manipulate a young teen to kill millions?

[frosty cave]

then what is god in calamity

[frosty cave]

who did yharim manipulate

[split mortar]

A being who ascended using an auric soul

[split mortar]

Scal

[frosty cave]

how strong do you get though?

[prisma wharf]

No I mean like since we killed gods like moon lord, prov,SG etc we kind of like did the same as what yharim but not very similar cuz he has crusade

[split mortar]

Depends on how strong you are and how strong the dragon is and what domain you get

[split mortar]

Moonlord isnt a god

[split mortar]

All the gods are optional fights iirc, the terrarian can just not fight them

[frosty cave]

what is an auric soul

[long bloom]

dragon soul

[frosty cave]

so like yharon soul fragments?

[long bloom]

sorta

[split mortar]

Yeah yharons the last auric dragon

But we dont permanently kill the guy ingame

[long bloom]

specifically yharon's soul teleports away when he dies and leaves behind fragments

no other auric soul does that

[split mortar]

A soul buffed by a world soul fragment somehow

[long bloom]

so basically many thousands of years ago the world had a soul

[frosty cave]

are the kindle staff auric dragons

[long bloom]

it shattered

[frosty cave]

like elden ring

[long bloom]

dragons took the fragments

and got auric souls

[split mortar]

No

[long bloom]

not canon

[frosty cave]

are the weapons dropped by bosses cannon then?

[split mortar]

The staff is the summon weapon no? Probably just magic constructs

Or is it a dedicated item

[robust osprey]

seems canon to me

[random mulch]

slime god & ravager (and i guess evil2 if you count them) dont drop anything progression essential

[robust osprey]

they likely are

unless its a dedicated item/item from somewhere else (like murasama)

[random mulch]

and providence can be skipped cause you can shimmer down auric which can come from crates

[split mortar]

Providence does?

[split mortar]

Yuh

[random mulch]

reading comprehension check: failed

[split mortar]

Im a calamity fan what did you expect

[random mulch]

fair

[frosty cave]

what do you mean

[random mulch]

they arent required to be beating in order to reach calamitas & exo mechs

[frosty cave]

can't you like beat calamity in under 10 bosses

[random mulch]

wha

[frosty cave]

i saw a dude onm youtube do it

[random mulch]

you're talking about something completely unrelated

you can beat calamity without killing any of the gods

[frosty cave]

ohhh

[random mulch]

calamity fans truly cannot read

[split mortar]

Yeah

[frosty cave]

shi mb

[random mulch]

it's fine

[frosty cave]

i was talking about boss weapons being cannon

is it a yes or no

and why does a dragon have a pitch fork

[mighty zenith]

i mean, nothing's stating they're not real

[split mortar]

Boss weapons are canon
Dedicated items are not

[mighty zenith]

my interpretation is you literally create weapons out of the bosses carcasses

[frosty cave]

give me examples of dedicated items

[cloud ibex]

They probably don’t literally drop out of the bosses’ corpses but for the most part there’s nothing necessarily stating that they couldn’t exist in theory

[split mortar]

Every shadowspec item or donor item

[mighty zenith]

art attack

[frosty cave]

oh

[frosty cave]

so its up to interpretation

[mighty zenith]

mhm

[split mortar]

And blatant references arent canon so murasama isnt

[frosty cave]

is the murasama from avalon

or exxo

[split mortar]

Its referencing metal gear rising reveangence

[frosty cave]

oh it is?

[split mortar]

Its one of the most relevant characters weapons

[frosty cave]

i thought it was from exxo avalon mod

from 1.2

[mighty zenith]

no its just straight up a weapon from metal gear rising

[frosty cave]

is calamitas stronger than permafrost

[split mortar]

Yes

[mighty zenith]

in terms of power yes

permafrost is more skilled and experienced obviously

[split mortar]

Perma is older and more skilled but scal is a walking nuke

[frosty cave]

is there gonna be another boss after calamitas besides yharim

[random mulch]

there's a chance you'll get to fight noxus and xeroc but that's not guaranteed

[long bloom]

they'll be added if the devs still wanna work on the mod after yharim

[frosty cave]

yeah but aren;t not cannon

[long bloom]

they are canon?

[frosty cave]

THEY ARE?

[long bloom]

...yeah

[frosty cave]

i thought wrath of the gods aren't cannon

[long bloom]

they're not from wotg 💀💀💀

[random mulch]

wrath of the gods isnt canon

[long bloom]

wotg just stole them

[random mulch]

but noxus and xeroc are actual calamity characters

[frosty cave]

are they gods

[random mulch]

xeroc is

[long bloom]

xeroc is like the second most important person in the narrative

[frosty cave]

and how big is their standing in the game

oh

[long bloom]

xeroc is the first god

the god of primordial light

and is indirectly responsible for literally everything else that happened

[frosty cave]

noxus?

[long bloom]

just chilling

for now

[mighty zenith]

noxus is the looming threat

[frosty cave]

is he a god

[long bloom]

no

[mighty zenith]

nope

[frosty cave]

then what is it

[mighty zenith]

we dunno

[long bloom]

just an obscenely powerful distortion creature

[mighty zenith]

noxus is very enigmatic currently

we know very little about it

[frosty cave]

where is it mentioned

[long bloom]

noxus isn't directly namedropped in the mod

[limpid saddle]

Never by name but it's existence is implied throught many lore items

[long bloom]

but he's alluded to

[limpid saddle]

In particular the Ceaseless Void lore item is the most notable to me

[long bloom]

and draetalk

and dog lore item

that's it

[frosty cave]

then where did the name come from? was it a community agreement for the name?

[long bloom]

noxus existed long before the lore rewrite

the concept evolved from goozma

[frosty cave]

who is that

a dev?

[long bloom]

a scrapped character

a hypothetical version of slime god if they absorbed every slime in terraria

he was ship of theseus'd into noxus

[frosty cave]

ohh

but i don't get the correlation between the two

[long bloom]

they started with goozma and changed things until they ended up with current noxus

the start and end points are almost entirely different

anyway this isn't really relevant

to the lore

[frosty cave]

ohh

but noxus is there

[limpid saddle]

In the lore? yeah

[frosty cave]

would yharim win vs xeroc because i saw from the doc that xeroc is the one that talks in terminus

[limpid saddle]

He's DoG's boss & to our understanding the defacto 'lord' of the distortion, but Signus sits on a similar tier of the Distortion hierarchy to it

[limpid saddle]

Nah

thats why he's been tweaking on a chair in the Dragon Aerie for the last 6 months

[frosty cave]

6 months?!

[mighty zenith]

venom

[frosty cave]

we got that strong that fast?

[long bloom]

yharim went into hiding in the dragon's aerie 6 months before the game starts

[limpid saddle]

As Yharim reached the end of the Crusades I believe he gradually realised he would never accumulate enough strength to defeat Xeroc, so he just kind of lost it & went 'blood frenzy' mode

Stopped taking care of his empire as his allies left him

[long bloom]

minor spelling mistake

[limpid saddle]

nah our adventure starts at the end of those six months

[limpid saddle]

there i fixed it

[frosty cave]

ohh

[long bloom]

everything in the timeline that happened x time ago is measured from when the terrarian starts their journey

bc the time it takes is massively variable

cooking up a simplified timeline rn

[frosty cave]

what is draedon's standing in calamity

[limpid saddle]

his goal is 100% the progression of science, he's pretty amoral & ultimately pretty neutral

He only aligned with Yharim if I recall right because of his plentiful resources, thus allpwing Draedon to do more science shit

[long bloom]

yep

draedon will do literally anything if it means advancing science, because that's the only thing he's programmed to do or care about.

also i finished my simplified timeline

the year colors represent the different periods:
orange is the draconic era
gray is the gray period
blue is the deific era
yellow is the crusade

sry about the pixels
fuckin discord compression

[robust osprey]

the terrarian is YOU therefore theres no definitive timeline between the terrarian arriving and the terrarian defeating yharim

🫵

if you want to be really exact take your character's playtime and multiply by 60

[eager folio]

Five. Hundred. Days

[late veldt]

How long???

[robust osprey]

uh

seems accurate enough

[north wigeon]

this and the cigs reminds me of XRA's "every cig takes 17 mins off your life" gag fsr

[long bloom]

where is that mentioned?

[glacial rampart]

I am not sure i might be tweaking

but im

[hoary cape]

Probably are lol

[glacial rampart]

i swear this was something mentioned

i think im just tweaking

lore discussion brainrot is getting to me

[spare pier]

It hasn't been mentioned I don't think

[glacial rampart]

im losing it

[robust osprey]

what was it

[long bloom]

patreon info i think

i mean it is unless a dev leaked it at some point

[robust osprey]

theyre shadow governmenting the lore smh

[clever meteor]

does is yharim human?

[robust osprey]

yeah yharim is human

[silent crane]

what a question?

[magic epoch]

fair question considering he's 8 feet tall and over 100 years old

[balmy glacier]

He is only human after all

[robust osprey]

he is just built different

[hoary cape]

The 100 years old part isn't because of his natural life span

He got that increased by his draconic bond

[balmy glacier]

And not through some yharim stimulants? Lame🥱

[plucky juniper]

yharim stimulants are made of draconic bond

liquid draconic bond

dont ask how thats even possible

[wheat walrus]

wrong, yhimulants are made of yhiquid yhond bruh

[somber kelp]

just purified his meridians, clearly

[clever meteor]

waiting for yharim to release to know that value

[split mortar]

Gonna be waiting for years

[untold oracle]

lea took 8 years

[buoyant root]

Can someone explain what did calamitas do to sunken sea?
Was desert full sunken sea?

[sinful adder]

Yes

[young socket]

no

the top wasnt

[sinful adder]

Mostly?

Most of it was

[young socket]

but the underground used to be sea

[sinful adder]

Yeah. The surface was still desert

[glacial wolf]

do we have any official images of Sylva

[young socket]

[pliant ruin]

cutie patootie

[light linden]

I still can't tell if she has arms or legs

[spring helm]

i think her legs turn into wood below the knee

either that or that's like some sort of footwear

[pliant ruin]

she has arms

they're behind her back

[light linden]

really short forearms then

[spring helm]

you can't even see them how do you know

[light linden]

that's how I know

[spring helm]

what

[dusk laurel]

why cant it be both

[light linden]

the fact I can't see her arms or her hands sticking out the side

especially at a diagonal angle

[dusk laurel]

idk i can see her arms there

[light linden]

ok lemme clarify

at least for me when I pose like that I can see my hands on the opposite side sticking out from behind my back

[spring helm]

ahh

mango probably just didnt want to draw the hands

[pliant ruin]

yeah

hands r annoying to draw

[plucky lichen]

Hello lore what do you think about

Lore

[spring helm]

this image is captioned Silva (main form) because her current form is a rotting corpse 10k metres under the sea

[plucky lichen]

I’m making her into a salad

[bold dragon]

Smash

Well let me see the true silva

[spring helm]

literally right there in the picture

[bold dragon]

No the rotting corpse one

[bold dragon]

Beautiful

Amazing

This is what i'm looking for

[vague jacinth]

what happens when a dragon dies? aside from Yharon of course

do they die forever or do they all rebirth?

[pliant ruin]

yharon can rebirht them in the aerie

assuming their soul is intact anyways
as you can see by the current state of the dragons

[vague jacinth]

oh ok they makes more sense

[spring helm]

their body becomes auric ore

[eager bluff]

auric bones

and by extension auric teeth

[queen swallow]

who tf is silva

[sinful adder]

If Yharon is alive and their souls are intact, yharon can make them be reborn. If their soul is consumed, they can't be reborn. Their bodies become auric ore either way from what I understand

[sinful adder]

The nature elemental and goddess of life

One of the most powerful gods

[queen swallow]

why is she dead

did yharim kill her

like the stinky godseeker he is

[vague jacinth]

btw how powerful is Permafrost?

[cloud ibex]

he did as well as he probably could

but it's kinda hard to permanently kill her unless you kill literally all other life on the planet and then yourself

so instead she's in gay baby abyss jail until she can reform her body

[long bloom]

powerful enough to make the entire tundra significantly colder

[vague jacinth]

I meant more in terms of combat

[long bloom]

we dunno then

[queen swallow]

so uh apparently the planty mush is her dead body

[long bloom]

sort of

it's her essence infused into the abyss

and creating plantlife

[sinful adder]

It's not actually her body at all

But it was made from her

[pliant ruin]

she's dead (temporarely) (kind of) (she's immortal) (but also functionally dead) (its complicated) (she'll be back eventually)

[long bloom]

she's braindead in a coma

[vague jacinth]

Silvian Afton

[sinful adder]

Silva is definitely at least somewhat conscious because she deliberately unlocks the abyss chests

[long bloom]

no

that's a subconscious thing

she is very very much braindead in a coma

[sinful adder]

Oh

[limpid saddle]

Yeah its the same with the planty mush, her subconscious will is projecting her powers onto the abyss & forming flora

the abyss doesnt really need fauna cause it's already got all those weird fuckin fish in it

[vapid swift]

why is providence stronger at night?
doesn't she take power from the sun?

[cloud ibex]

just a gameplay thing

[vapid swift]

ah okay

[cloud ibex]

the night condition is being replaced with using her summon item again while she's alive i believe

[split mortar]

Yeah

[cloud ibex]

in which case it'll be something like giving back the power with the artifact that she gave to the guardians

or something along those lines

[split mortar]

Its being changed to make sense in lore

So the blue fire state is canon but the activation of it isnt ingame

[vapid swift]

okay

so it will be changed?

[real silo]

yes that's what they said

Silly

[real silo]

Nova looks smaller than I expected

[young socket]

its made smaller when thrown via code

[real glen]

lore devs should explain the accurate size for this

[crimson junco]

I always thought it was a different sprite until someone said that

[young socket]

theres no sprite called SupernovaBomb so yeah its the same sprite but scaled down

[real silo]

Fucked up

Might as well just make it small at that point 🥀

[long bloom]

such a loreious discussion

i know how i can get us back on track

*ahem*

what does yharon taste like

[cloud ibex]

[long bloom]

i don't think he tastes like man

[balmy glacier]

Yes. He does indeed tastes like man

[long bloom]

my timeline is cooking 🔥

Soon™

[untold oracle]

Boss taste discussion

[long bloom]

that's my timeline in the middle

it's cooking

[real silo]

I LOVE DUNGEON MESHI

[muted torrent]

What is the lore behind enemies dropping money?

[cloud ibex]

the Heartlands are capitalist

[long bloom]

unbelievable

[thick slate]

no

,,,,,

💔

[analog robin]

So is the Martian invasion canon or is it just not gonna be explained

[long bloom]

it's canon

read shockstorm shuttle bestiary for the extremely minimal information calamity adds

[dusk laurel]

yes and it will be elaborated more in at least 1 second

[late veldt]

how many people actually know the ascension ritual and are alive today

[split mortar]

Not many since yharim killed most

Perma probably would
Xeroc
Silva
Yharim
Yharon
Slime god
Providence
Profaned guardians

Most of which we kill

[long bloom]

why would perma know

[clever meteor]

what ascension ritual, the one where you absorb an auric soul to become a god

[long bloom]

yes that one

literally the only thing they could be referring to

[split mortar]

Like 5 centuries old and smart magically

[long bloom]

he was not alive during the gray period

if he was that old then i could believe it

[deft vessel]

he was born ~1300 iirc

[long bloom]

if he's exactly 500 then ~1286

so yeah

i should put that in my timeline

[late veldt]

he's old as shit

[long bloom]

pluh

[split mortar]

Ok but like
Still centuries old
Even if not there during the huntings he coulda still learnt it himself or learnt from someone who did

[long bloom]

actually how long was the gray period

do we know

[young socket]

a century

[split mortar]

Theres reasonable suspicion he could get knowledge on the ritual

[long bloom]

source?

[young socket]

_ _

[long bloom]

hmm

i'm hesitant to say it was quite that short but around there probably

[frank dune]

Guess whos back? hahah

[dusk laurel]

the capo

[frank dune]

Damn, this place is quiter than a graveyard

[dusk laurel]

welcome back

[split mortar]

Yeah welcome back

[frank dune]

No more taste questions.

Either way what happened to this place

[late veldt]

got inducted

[split mortar]

Wait so what exactly is the grey period

Did it stop when all dragons but yharon died?

[long bloom]

it was when people were killing all the dragons

so it started right after fovos attacked and ended around when most dragons died

[split mortar]

Right so i was generally correct

[long bloom]

it's just a transitional period between the draconic and deific eras

[frank dune]

Highkey forgot most of lore, which gods essence is hallow?

[long bloom]

many

none are established

[young socket]

influence of dragons and gods being about equal

[split mortar]

Benevolent gods but no named ones

[long bloom]

that's an oversimplification

[young socket]

yea?

its

one sentence

[long bloom]

i got 3x more nuance in two

skill issue

[dusk laurel]

strange user

[young socket]

no

u said "its between the draconic and deific eras" which u can just

see in the timeline

[long bloom]

the two sentences before that

[young socket]

u mean the ones that said the exact same thing and something thats already inferred by its position in the timeline

[long bloom]

it's sure as hell not "gods and dragons had equal influence"

that's just mostly wrong

[young socket]

yes it is

[long bloom]

that's not really what you said

[young socket]

wat

[pliant ruin]

lore chat moment

[young socket]

true

[eager bluff]

the transitional period between the draconic and godly ages lasted a lot longer than just that rough century

[long bloom]

it didn't

[split mortar]

Whats your proof of this

[young socket]

grey period never ended since yharons alive

[dusk laurel]

stone is still pretty grey id say its always been here

[light linden]

on a technical level yes

[long bloom]

no not on a technical level

that's not how time works

[light linden]

grey period is when dragons were still being hunted for their souls

people hunt yharon down for his soul

so grey period technically isn't over

[paper spindle]

Hey just wondering

What are the chances we get bossfights for the rest of the elementals

[dusk laurel]

0

[young socket]

0

[paper spindle]

Maybe make the sand one replace the great sand shark?

[paper spindle]

Oh

I see

[dusk laurel]

not gonna happen

since sand is a vanilla enemy

[pliant ruin]

no more boss fights

no more

[paper spindle]

Then at least the could one then?

[pliant ruin]

idk about the could one but maybe the might one

the perhaps one, even

[cosmic zenith]

Nope

It's when there was a fairly balanced power struggle between Gods and Dragons

The struggle ceased to be balanced a long time ago

[paper spindle]

Ah then by some stretch could we get one for the rare sand elemental? It's not vanilla right?

[split mortar]

We arent getting more boss fights theres already more then enough
Only yharim, xeroc and noxus are guys who are considered for being added

[pliant ruin]

^

[dusk laurel]

rare sand is like bloat content

[snow mountain]

OBELISK

[dusk laurel]

dia obelisk 🙏

[mighty zenith]

obelix like the guy

[split mortar]

The obelisk

[pliant ruin]

ominous obelisk..

[snow mountain]

what if the rare sand elemental obelisk is like a herm

yknow

those ancient waystones

...that i can't show here

[long bloom]

wait whar

[pliant ruin]

you literally been told this

[long bloom]

[pliant ruin]

tsuki literally responded to you with this and you were like "nuh uh"

[split mortar]

Calamity fans when reading comprehension

[long bloom]

bc that's not whaT STIP SAID

i was talking to him abt it in patreon

[split mortar]

Patreon public leaking wow

[late veldt]

now replace patreon public with person blood! not so funny now, is it?

[long bloom]

he said i could tell you

[cloud ibex]

now replace person blood with "get money"

that's your age

[long bloom]

he says the gray period is around a centuryish

probably longer than shorter

[split mortar]

Ok? How does that contradict what is said here

[long bloom]

it doesn't

that was unrelated

[dusk laurel]

[pliant ruin]

mersault claim his bones

[cosmic zenith]

?

I only remember saying that the Dragons were killed off relatively fast, which is a fact

I don't think I said "the Gray Period is when the Dragons were being hunted"

[cosmic zenith]

The writer drip is on....

[wheat walrus]

Zamn

[clever raft]

What the flip

How Is ur name like that

[cosmic zenith]

Gradient roles

[clever raft]

Is that modded discord or why do i see boring orang

[hybrid barn]

"Gilt Weaver"
What does it mean...

[clever raft]

Oh must be a different server sorry, average calamity player reading comprehension

[cosmic zenith]

Weaver of gold-coated [threads]

A reference to an rp character of mine, Mosaic of Gilt Threads

[hybrid barn]

Ooohhhh, that's cool!

[pliant ruin]

rp mention

[dusk laurel]

pea hell land

[pliant ruin]

alternate timeline where instead of calamitas bombing illmeris it was the Other One (Dw its for amidias's characer arc)

[light linden]

timeframe?

warframe?

[pliant ruin]

whar

[bold dragon]

Who would win me vs draedon in 5d chess

[untold oracle]

Awful

[languid badge]

so whats stopping us from just bringing back silva

[spare pier]

How

[languid badge]

I mean
its implied the spirit is at least somewhat still there
and we do have a local necromancer

[eager bluff]

she barely has a corpse if she even has one

[eager bluff]

and we know necromancy doesnt work

[languid badge]

we know standard necromancy doesnt work

[spare pier]

Good luck collecting enough of Nature's essence in the most dangerous environment on the planet to bring her back in any meaningful way

[eager bluff]

good luck convincing calamitas to practice necromancy again

[languid badge]

thats what hypotheticals are for

[eager bluff]

yeah and thats whats stopping you from necromancing her

scal just wont

[languid badge]

thats fair

[limpid saddle]

How would you even revive silva? She technically isnt even dead

Thats like trying to use ressurection on someone that's asleep

[languid badge]

fine, reconstruction

[limpid saddle]

but her corpse isnt in multiple pieces

well

not corpse just body technically

[bold dragon]

Then creating a new body

A new vessel

[eager bluff]

with what material

and how will you ensure that they're compatible

[limpid saddle]

But she doesnt need one

[languid badge]

she survived being murdered I'm pretty sure finding a suragate body would not be exceptionally difficult

[eager bluff]

she survived being murdered because she cant die

[languid badge]

yeah

exactly

[eager bluff]

which is a very much different concept than ensuring a body and a soul are complatible

[limpid saddle]

How would you even do that?

Like what the hell is the process here?

Put a bunch of dirt & twigs in the shape of a woman, dredge up her body from the abyss & just rub them together & hope it works out?

[eager bluff]

what body is left

[limpid saddle]

There is no precedent for anything like this within the magic system of calamity

[eager bluff]

youd be looking down there for ages

[limpid saddle]

Given it's gonna become part of the background one can assume it's pretty easily spotted

The hard part really is getting it out

[eager bluff]

the only people that would know where to start are scal and perma
perma probably wouldnt help because something something perversion of nature idk
scal wouldnt help because ✨ Trauma ✨

[languid badge]

draedon might know

[eager bluff]

how

and why would he help

[languid badge]

he's bored clearly

[eager bluff]

he distinctly hates working with souls

[limpid saddle]

Hates is a bit of an overexaggeration but it is true he has shown frustration getting them to work that much is true

[eager bluff]

draedons previous experience with soul transferrence almost certainly had a) willing participants and b) fresh bodies

and i dont think silva is a willing participant

[limpid saddle]

I doubt he could find the time to spare for a pet project like reviving a goddess while pushing the limits of Miracle Matter anyway

[eager bluff]

he would be more interested in recreating her power for unkillable test subjects

[lunar thorn]

Calamity Tables timeline: Cal Maid:

[cloud ibex]

what

[balmy glacier]

Incomprehensible message

[wheat walrus]

🥲

[cosmic minnow]

Just no

[pliant ruin]

how loreous

[lunar thorn]

indeed

[scenic olive]

What if i put Yharim in mars

can he got out of mars

[magic epoch]

idk if he could breathe...

[queen moon]

Can someone explain to me the new lore pls😭🙏

Because last time I read it was on the fandom

[pliant ruin]

There's a doc in pins that may be a good start

It is recommended that you ask any questions you may have here tho cuz the doc dosen't go over everything and it still leaves some stuff a bit vague

The tl;dr of it is that the main villain is Yharim who essentially commited global-scale genocide due to his biased, black-and-white view of morality

[young socket]

man that got abused by a couple of gods gets gaslit by a dragon to think every god is bad; kills half the world because hes racist against anyone even associating themselves with gods

[queen moon]

Thanks 🙏

Ok so before I start reading the doc, is draedon a alien?

[young socket]

no

ai

omg calamity mod has ai in it how could they

[queen moon]

Did goozma get killed by noxus?

[young socket]

goozma doesnt exist

[queen moon]

Oh

[dense lynx]

What would be basic dish in azafure?

Like what did they eat?

[split mortar]

Goozma slowly got rewrote into noxus then the majore new lore rewrite happened

[dense lynx]

Goozma did not exsist in previous lore

How many lore rewrites we had?

[split mortar]

Old lore had so fucking many

[dense lynx]

I joined this community 2021 may

So idk much anything before

Also i was asking my previous questions ablut azafure food

What do they even eat?

There is no sunlight down there

Nor water

[late veldt]

There's biomass that comes from the abyss I think

[long bloom]

the brimstone crags are surprisingly lush for being in hell

bc of silva's life energy leeching in from the abyss above

[dense lynx]

But how about before yharim yeeted Silva into abyss

[long bloom]

she's been in the abyss before

yharim was not her first trip

[cloud ibex]

this ain't her first time in gay baby abyss jail

[queen moon]

Só azafure is basically the brim crags

[long bloom]

it's a city in the crags

or was ig

not much left anymore

[queen moon]

Cause of calamitas and elemental fight right?

[long bloom]

correct

hydrogen bomb vs hydrogen bomb

[queen moon]

Draedon WAS a "human" or not?

[young socket]

no

[long bloom]

he was always 100% mechanical

[young socket]

he had a human creator tho, that had a bunch of sciency stuff attached to him

[long bloom]

and still is

[cloud ibex]

maybe

[young socket]

so uhh

yeah

[long bloom]

what

[cloud ibex]

it's implied that he was a butchered consciousness transfer

[long bloom]

fym maybe

oh right that

i forgor

[queen moon]

Cool

[cloud ibex]

so maybe he was a human at one point who tried to transfer themselves to a robot body, but fucked up along the way and lost their personality

[long bloom]

and memories

[cloud ibex]

he doesn't know, so nobody knows

[thick slate]

what

why does patreon role shinyy

no fair

[young socket]

u should complain to ein or smthn idk

[long bloom]

the pleasant gradient

[cloud ibex]

mod role does too

just doesn't have a gradient

[thick slate]

i want to make mod role unpleasant gradient

[split mortar]

How does gradiant role work

[thick slate]

its a gradient

[long bloom]

colors

[queen moon]

Why yharim is so racist 💔🥀

[split mortar]

Its yharim thats why

[long bloom]

growing up in a cult that you hate does that

[mighty zenith]

you see

he's a giant asshole

being racist is just part of that

[queen moon]

He just like bees😭🙏

The unique living being hes not hating is bees

[pliant ruin]

As i said

yharim is someone with a extrmeley black and white view of things and thats the main negative trait which leads to him turn into a genocidal maniac who deludes himself into thinking he's a hero

[faint totem]

He REALLY likes bees

[crisp saffron]

Yharon would get along well with thanos

[queen moon]

So all the things on "Roar of the jungle dragon" are true

[plucky lichen]

Important lore question

Would xeroc be good at Mario cart

[queen moon]

It all happened

[plucky lichen]

Ya

[queen moon]

Like a kart or a driver

Sorry

[plucky lichen]

Like the game

[queen moon]

Lack of interpretation

[crisp saffron]

Hes pretty much a god so i guess he'd be good

[queen moon]

Probably

[plucky lichen]

Xeroc telling the terrarian who just nohit the boss rush on infernum they aren’t good enough and throwing a rock at them

[crisp saffron]

Not a rock, THE rock

[plucky lichen]

Best rock ever

[queen moon]

He have a all powerful soul inside of him so

[thick slate]

lore discuer

[thick slate]

like the guy

https://tenor.com/view/rock-one-eyebrow-raised-rock-staring-the-rock-gif-22113367

[dusk laurel]

im not kidding you when i say only like 2 (3 maybe) characters in the entire story could damage the rock

[plucky lichen]

Oh yeah rock lore goes crazy

[queen moon]

Yeah, like Dwayne "Xeroc" Johnson

[plucky lichen]

I could damage it guys trust me

[crisp saffron]

What have I started

[plucky lichen]

I’m the terrarian the terrarian is me and I say I can eat the rock and chew it up with my teeth

[queen moon]

The guy or the object ?

[plucky lichen]

What

The object

Or both

Both works

[light linden]

the object

it's from the aerie

and from what we know it is theoretically indestructible

[faint totem]

The ultimate rok

[queen moon]

Aerie is like the paradise

Afterlife

[light linden]

no

it's a pocket dimension akin to the distortion but for the auric dragons

[long bloom]

we don't know if it's a pocket dimension

it might literally just be invisible

[split mortar]

Draedon would have collided with it then no?

[long bloom]

why would he

[dusk laurel]

being invisible is kinda a really terrible method of hiding a giant floating island

[split mortar]

Invisible isnt intangible

[dusk laurel]

like you could still detect it, you just couldnt see it

[cloud ibex]

If it was as simple as it being invisible I feel like Draedon woulda found it by now

[long bloom]

the fact of the matter is we have no fucking idea what the deal is with it

[pliant ruin]

he wouldve found it yea

he has ways of finding things beyond just Seeing Them and also it's just

[pliant ruin]

if not draedon someone is gonna hit that shit eventually

[long bloom]

i vaguely remember a dev saying it's not a separate dimension tho

[pliant ruin]

Yeah it's not

[cloud ibex]

I think it being entirely removed from the normal stream of time is leagues more interesting than it just being invisible anyway

[pliant ruin]

But it's also probably not invisible

[crisp saffron]

Love to see the meme isn't dead

[pliant ruin]

I believe it.....

[dusk laurel]

the aerie likely has some time fuckery preventing most change to the island

[queen moon]

So its a dimension that we cant access or see for now

[split mortar]

Didnt cei like literally confirm it

[dusk laurel]

fits with the dragons being stuck in the past and all

[dusk laurel]

i dont think so (?)

[long bloom]

i think she did

it's like

frozen in time

[dusk laurel]

also like if the palace subworld is actually a thing then we already have an answer for that, the frost dragon

[dusk laurel]

okay then yeah

[long bloom]

it's not

that was a shitpost

[dusk laurel]

ill ask a dev

rather than you

[queen moon]

Its a dimension with time running at a different pace and that cannot be seen

?

[long bloom]

like 3 devs directly stated it's not happening

i'm quoting them

[dusk laurel]

ive only seen one dev say it

also its just an idea, and old duke is not a priority right now

im not saying that it will be a thing, im saying if

[cloud ibex]

We don’t know

[split mortar]

We dont fully know and are just speculating

[cloud ibex]

But the way devs have described it, my prediction is the dragons managed to somehow freeze it in time so that it would, quite literally, never change and stay as it is forever

[eager bluff]

no it was hard confirmed that old duke subworld is fake and doesnt exist if thats what you're referring to

[cloud ibex]

Just like how the dragons thought their rule would last forever

[dusk laurel]

alright then

[pliant ruin]

Ozz said it was le epic bait yea

Kinda disappointed this is the second time a genuinely cool sounding idea turns out to be bait

[split mortar]

What we know
All stuff from the aerie is basically invincible due to time not flowing for it
Draedon cant find it

Thats about it i believe ?

[long bloom]

yep

[cloud ibex]

And the reason nobody but Yharon (and therefore Yharim) can find it is that it doesn’t exist in the normal course of time

[eager bluff]

just like nomon

[cloud ibex]

It doesn’t exist in the now, it exists solely in the past

[pliant ruin]

deez

[dusk laurel]

nomon walked so gorthus could run

[queen moon]

A Valhalla for dragons?

[cloud ibex]

So it’s essentially farum azula elden ring I think

[cloud ibex]

Not really?

At least we haven’t really heard enough about it for the comparison to really work

[split mortar]

They could go there whenever and yharon could rebirth their souls into new bodies while there

[cloud ibex]

Man I need to stop saying “really” so much my vocabulary is cooked

[queen moon]

Kinda like the fact that its just a mod and it has as much lore as the actual game

[split mortar]

It kinda has more cause anything outside of whats ingame red just shitposted

[long bloom]

it has literally 5x more lore

[mighty zenith]

not 5x

like 30x

vanilla lore is 3 pages at most

[late veldt]

i mean there are literal actual lore pages

and there is more than 3 of them

[cosmic zenith]

Pretty sure it's not what he said, at least in Patreon

It's a suggested thing, so it's neither denied nor confirmed

[eager bluff]

it was in cst at some point

#calamity-update-talk message

[spare pier]

Ozz probably wasn't aware that there were actually serious plans for it, but there were yes

But as always it's not hard confirmed

It's an idea

[light linden]

hi rebecca and stip

[queen moon]

This lore is so much better than the one that i read 2 years ago

Like much much better

And it has +100 pages😭🙏

[split mortar]

Its gonna like double when sso comes out (next major update) lol

[queen moon]

Sunken is so majestic🌹❤️‍🩹

[long bloom]

apparently moonlord's new bestiary entry will be like the single most important piece of lore in the entire game

i'm so hyped

[random mulch]

moon lord's bestiary will be "mun lort"

[queen moon]

It will be "Moon: lord💔🥀"

[young socket]

his bestiary entry will say that he comes from the glorpo dimension and that hes actually the weakest living thing isnide the glorpo dimension

and then post noxus theyll introduce the glorpo dimension as a new stage of the game

because itll be revealed that the distortion is just the entryway to the glorpo dimension and noxus was holding it back

[dusk laurel]

[pliant ruin]

If oon, then only Lord!

[mighty zenith]

moon lord's bestiary entry will be the terrarian is you copypasta

[faint totem]

That would legit rock

[split mortar]

I thought copy pasta were only texts

[mighty zenith]

idk what else to call it

its copied and pasted all the time so its a copypasta

[young socket]

i wouldnt be surprised if a mod can have bestiary entries use images

[thorn drift]

how the fuck did yharim never manage to kill slime god

[young socket]

its slippery

like slime

[faint totem]

Because he’s a fraud /j

[thorn drift]

okay but how did we, a comparatively absolute nobody manage to kill that thing, while he, the literal strongest fucking being on the planet, didnt

[mighty zenith]

well slime god kinda fucked up

[thorn drift]

i know

[mighty zenith]

it escaped the first encounter

[thorn drift]

im just suprised it didnt happen sooner

[mighty zenith]

it didnt really get the chance to try and absorb the hallow before

[thorn drift]

queen slime was it fucking up

i know

[mighty zenith]

since the hallow was contained

and it could handle the other evil biomes just fine

[thorn drift]

yeah fair enough

hell of a skill issue though

on both sides

[mighty zenith]

ture

[hoary cape]

Tbf slime god is good at avoiding conflict

It went out of its way to come after us before escaping when it realized it couldn't win. Then unfortunately got trapped in it's own paladin

It avoided yharim though

[untold forge]

Yharon Chicken

[late veldt]

Yh yh yh yharon

ch ch ch chicken

[warm vortex]

la-la-la-lava ch-ch-chicken

[magic epoch]

cal's lava chicken yeah it's all burnt as hell ooh mamacita now you're burnin it down ooh way too crispy now you're gnawing on ash ooh super spicy it's a brimstone attaaaaaack

[real glen]

slime god always ran away as far as I know

[clever raft]

wish this was pinned

[magic epoch]

idont

[faint totem]

Nice

[autumn mirage]

reached the 15k mark...

my hatred for pbg has reignited.

[late veldt]

Jesus Christ

You're like Yharim in the uncontrollable plague au or some shit

[autumn mirage]

im on a noble quest to kill pbg 100k times because she killed me twice.

i wont stop until i make sure that stupid bee knows i hate it.

[gusty jetty]

I think it knows

[autumn mirage]

i want to engrave a primal fear of the very fact of my existence into its stupid brain, im killing it 100k times.

[warm iris]

Calamity infection AU when

[vague jacinth]

which god are each of the shrines dedicated too?

I'm guessing the surface one is for slime god

[pliant ruin]

¯_(ツ)_/¯

evil biomes are for the evil biome gods, surface is for slime god yea
other tahn that hard to say what any of them is dedicated to

[bold dragon]

I think i could beat draedon on 5d chess

[pliant ruin]

granite dedicated to the evil granite god from hell

[graceful igloo]

OI OU OIIIII

[pliant ruin]

marble dedicated to the kind marble god from heaven

[graceful igloo]

BAKAAAAAA

I is just small bean

[pliant ruin]

strange user

[graceful igloo]

Are there any discord mods or kittens in here?

[bold dragon]

Most people are strange

[graceful igloo]

Hey

Thats offensive

[pliant ruin]

bizzare user

[graceful igloo]

I was just trynna joke

Sorry

[bold dragon]

I agree

[graceful igloo]

Guys?

Thank you

[split mortar]

Yeah

[graceful igloo]

I’m just joshing

[split mortar]

So on topic

[calm patio]

Wrong.

[vague jacinth]

I could 1v1 exo mechs irl with just my fists

[proven rivet]

I could 1v1 exos if I had the controller

[magic epoch]

i know i could beat yharim in a comprehension quiz

[queen moon]

I could 1v4 the exos by farting

[fair token]

huh

i never ntoiced what this quote implies until now

"It wasn't too long ago you barely managed to defeat my doppelganger. Quite the failure, wasn't it?"

so Calclone at least was a hard fight according to the current scal dailogue

so thats interesting

[split mortar]

Boss dialogue outdated btw

[fair token]

yes

i said

current

[split mortar]

I may the have stupid

[fair token]

all g

[mighty zenith]

"barely" my ass calclone is a snoozefest

[fair token]

ikr

[split mortar]

Current calclone fight is what they on about

[random mulch]

blage pringer goliath but less bee

[random mulch]

flesh in the machine

will probably make a colored drawing or maybe even a render.. eventually

[spare pier]

Bro thinks he is

[random mulch]

who dat

[spare pier]

Genshin guy

[split mortar]

Rebecca and genshin

[late veldt]

Rebeshin and Genbecca

[light linden]

hey rebecca can I ask you a question?

[jaunty wraith]

Question: do we know any specific abilities that yharim has?

[clever raft]

Question if he just some nice guy: how was your day? 😎

[split mortar]

He can touch auric without exploding and you can refer to the yomi hustle mod for other details lile making electric orb projectiles or yharims crystal being hyper buffed when used by him

[jaunty wraith]

I ask cause ive got a deathbattle matchbox with yharim

Yharim vs firelord ozai

[split mortar]

Yharim can oneshot a city in a single sword swing

[split mortar]

What is ozais attack power ?

[jaunty wraith]

We dont really know with base

He was able yo do lightning bending eith just a sliver of the sun exposed.

With sozins comment active, its able to destroy an entire country with a few other fire benders

[split mortar]

How big is the country and how long did it take to level it

Yharim should reasonably upscale this by some level since scal was a teen when doing this

[jaunty wraith]

They couldn't fully level it, but it was said they could of done it during the span of sozins comment which lasts for a couple hours at most.

Also this is a map of avatar.

The green is the entire country ozai was wiping out, if we divide the power by the amount of fire vendors it would still be pretty high.

[split mortar]

Ok sozin comet ozai prob kills yharim if he doesnt get a few km close

So we know how much an amp sozins comet is?

[jaunty wraith]

Thats the thing... its a once in a 100 year event when it happens

So its unlikely ozai would have it

[split mortar]

Plus sozin is basically human level reaction time right?

[jaunty wraith]

He's able to scale to characters like zuko in reaction time who reacts to lightning being fired

[swift ferry]

Does that mean aang clears yharim

[jaunty wraith]

In avatar state definitly

[split mortar]

Avatar state might but if yharim hits any of them they fucking die instantly due to being human level durability im pretty sure

[swift ferry]

That is real yeah - none of them got armor

[split mortar]

Or hits their general direction while 3 km away from them

[swift ferry]

Unless they do the earth armor thing but that impairs your ability to fight obviously

[split mortar]

And yharims auric armour is just a bit stronger then any metals seen
Does the metal being stronger make it harder to bend?

[jaunty wraith]

Metals are bent because of the earth inside of it

[swift ferry]

Now I'm trying to imagine what happens when you metal bend auric
Probably pretty hard yeah

[jaunty wraith]

If somthing is pure metal like platinum, then its not affected

[split mortar]

Oh so auric is likely immune since the “ore” is just pure metal iirc

[wheat walrus]

p

[split mortar]

Hi omni

Imagine if trying to bend it results in the auric doing its whole rejection thing lol

[wheat walrus]

peculiar

[split mortar]

What

[wheat walrus]

yall were talking abt avatar

metalbending, and auric

[split mortar]

Ozai vs yharim

[wheat walrus]

i actually dunno much abt avatar but it seems interesting

metalbending and auric

[swift ferry]

toph at one point gives herself metal armor wirh metalbending. imagine trying to do that with auric and then just fucking Dying

[wheat walrus]

yea no, she defo cant give herself auric armor

assuming auric can even be bended, you'd use it exclusively offensively unless attuned

[split mortar]

Metal bending needs impurities and id be surprised if yharims had any or a notable amount

[wheat walrus]

lmao

see i wouldn't know but honestly auric is probably just

absurdly pure by default

partially because of its rejecting nature

[split mortar]

Pretty sure this is supported by a dev quote tho they arent law

[wheat walrus]

which

[split mortar]

Lemme find it

Pluh

So auric shouldnt be metal bended

[latent bolt]

what did people think old lore xeroc's fight would be like

[split mortar]

Is the likely outcome

[split mortar]

Look at nameless deity for a good answer it was originally gonna be lucilles take on it iirc

[jaunty wraith]

Wasn't old lore xeroc basicly just god?

[split mortar]

Yeah

[latent bolt]

yeah pretty much

[autumn mirage]

my target...

[sinful adder]

My only gripe is that if it were to work like this, he'd have that part be in his mind but the part he actually speaks would be just the normal text

Wait why was I scrolled so far up

Like what the hell

How did this happen. I thought I was replying to a comment from earlier today

I guess I'll just leave this here because it's funny

[split mortar]

What in the fuck did discord do to send you that far away 😭

[sinful adder]

My only guess is that there was a link or reply somewhere I accidentally clicked on

[untold forge]

Auric toilet is the perfect way to catch my enemies off guard

[wheat walrus]

skibidi yharon

[untold forge]

Offer it as a gift or a truce

Profit

[untold forge]

[warm gull]

lo. rediscussion

[terse moss]

Does anyone happen to know where the full lore document is located? I read the wiki lore but I heard there was a more complete document floating around somewhere

[scenic olive]

Its pinned on this channel

[terse moss]

Oh, thank you!

[frosty cave]

is there any lore reason on why the primodial wyrm would spawn when we teleport with rod of discord

[tidal tulip]

There is, Jared hates Primordial Light, the stuff that makes you teleport using the RoD in Calamity's lore

[frosty cave]

oh we emit prmodial light from the RoD?

[faint totem]

It’s called Jared?

[eager bluff]

unofficially yeah

[vague jacinth]

wdym Jared is his canon name

[eager bluff]

community nickname since around when it was released iirc

[tidal tulip]

I was lowkey stuck on this lmao

[faint totem]

Why Jared

[vague jacinth]

because that's his name

[tidal tulip]

Yup

[faint totem]

Why

[vague jacinth]

idk bring it up with his mom

[faint totem]

She died in the war, so I can’t

[eager bluff]

video where pw spawned and wasnt hostile and just followed around the uploader so he nicknamed him jared and the name stuck in the wider community

[faint totem]

Oh cool

[split mortar]

Yeah

[undone elbow]

I guess that explains why Jared gets aggressive. I mean he lives so far down in the abyss, I think any bright light could anger him.

[tidal tulip]

It's really just Primordial Light

[split mortar]

Jared hates people using primordial light cause of xeroc

[undone elbow]

That makes even more sense when I think about it.

[tidal tulip]

Just took a look at lore doc to confirm this, but Jared's reasoning for his hatred for Primordial Light isn't directly stated. It's sort of hinted that it's the powerful yet artificial nature of Primordial Light which angers him, but there's no why.

Anyone know if Silva and Xeroc got any beef?

[sinful adder]

We inferred that they probably do because of this

[tidal tulip]

Could it be a coincidence that they're also the only two Gods with perfect ascensions?

[undone elbow]

what would've hindered the other gods from having perfect ascensions is my current question.

[tidal tulip]

My first thought was it being a power struggle, but what would they even fight for? Xeroc doesn't intervene in Terrarian affairs and Silva... is just a goddess that promotes life? I know very little about her.

[undone elbow]

all I know about silva is that they are responsible for life even being possible in the abyss. thats just about it on my end.

[tidal tulip]

I believe it has to do with the Terminus and there being a specific ritual that needs to be done with it to achieve a perfect ascension and thus, claim the same domain as the dragon who's auric soul you just consumed

[undone elbow]

ok that makes sense.

[tidal tulip]

Yup, Silva can't die unless all life on Terraria dies.

So she can do shit to the abyss and nobody can contest her

[undone elbow]

the world is literally their life support.

[tidal tulip]

Spot on.

[undone elbow]

honestly that makes me laugh a bit.

dunno why

[sinful adder]

Our best guess is that perfect ascensions happen when the dragon and person are attuned, which in turn requires them to want the same things and generally like each other

[undone elbow]

but didn't the gods steal the auric souls in the first place? because I would've thought that would have contradicted something.

[tidal tulip]

I am dying to know what the hell Silva has against Xeroc

The only known relation is that god damned wyrm

[undone elbow]

we might get something the future but for now. just speculations I suppose.

[tidal tulip]

It's very possible some ascensions were consensual from the dragons themselves

[undone elbow]

then that would make sense.

[sinful adder]

Most of them did... And yharim would certainly like you to believe that, but we don't actually know that all of them did.

[tidal tulip]

It's suspected, for example, that Xeroc was given Zeratros' consent to consume his soul, for some few reasons. I don't think that's been confirmed by a dev, though I may be wrong.

[undone elbow]

well things that are suspected to be true can be very different from the actual truth. I just hope that we get more information about all of this in the future.

cuz right now, it makes my head hurt sometimes

[tidal tulip]

Without a doubt we will. I'm very excited for Sunken Sea Overhaul as there's apparently going to be a LOT of reveals then and the lore to me is the most exciting.

[undone elbow]

that is true.

[tidal tulip]

Real lmao

When I first got into the lore the sudden waves upon waves of information were overwhelming when I joined this server

[undone elbow]

and trying to figure out a lot of stuff when you don't have the full picture doesnt help.

[tidal tulip]

Eventually though, you might find it to be one of the most interesting lores youve ever laid your eyes on

[undone elbow]

I already do.

and honestly, I prefer the current lore over the old one.

[tidal tulip]

I agree 100%. I nerd out a lot with this lore to my friends.

They go the extra mile and say I have a certain uh, mental condition, but I suspect they forget what nerding out means.

[scenic olive]

What if i put silva inside an Autoclave

[split mortar]

A what

[real silo]

science hippie machine that sterilizes stuff iirc

[split mortar]

she would live

[cosmic zenith]

Plant life specifically, the Abyss had native fauna before Silva

[cosmic zenith]

Omw to turn the Silva set into the Treehugger set

[light linden]

hi stip

[cosmic zenith]

Hello!

[split mortar]

Dev role looks cool

[dusk laurel]

the fiery pits of the inferno

[light linden]

can I ask a bit of a random question?

its been bothering me for like

[cosmic zenith]

Sure!

[light linden]

5 days

[cosmic zenith]

Thanks!

[light linden]

how hot and fast does gel burn?

cause it seems a little inconsistent

[cosmic zenith]

Hmmm
I wouldn't know that, and I probably shouldn't give a throwaway answer

[light linden]

thanks anyways

[cosmic zenith]

No problem!

[split mortar]

It probably varies decently between slimes
Since some while not being much smaller are drastically lower hp and thus burn to death quicker

[long bloom]

stib what's your new name a reference to