this analogy makes zero sense
#lore-discussion
young socket
split pewter
ATLA did it well because they barely elaborated on the hundred year war and instead just made it a consequence of roku and sozin’s respective actions, while elaborating on them as characters much more
cloud ibex
i don't think that's an rts game
split pewter
we still see how it affected things obviously
cloud ibex
and while yes that is kinda what he himself was doing, he didn't do the crusade on his own
split mortar
Idk wat an rts game is
cloud ibex
he was also commanding the army around
split pewter
and it was a massive important event
young socket
Idk wat an rts game is
real time strategy
long bloom
Idk wat an rts game is
real time strategy
cloud ibex
which is why i think he'd be closer to doing an rts game
split mortar
A
long bloom
ATLA did it well because they barely elaborated on the hundred year war and inst...
you can make good stories with both structures
also
one is a tv show and one is a videogame 
split pewter
i guess what i’m trying to say is that the crusade has too many unnecessary details that make it seem overwhelming when you try to understand it
long bloom
i'm not overwhelmed so idk uh skill issue ig
young socket
there really arent
split mortar
Yharim had a interdimensional worm that can oneshot a city i think the crusade may be on a higher level of destruction
split pewter
What part of it do you think is overwhelming?
it’s hard to keep track of the important characters in the crusade
like what they did, cause and effect and why it actually matters
long bloom
He also had a child that could one-shot a city lmao
it took her 4 days byeah
split mortar
He also had a child that could one-shot a city lmao
Wasnt oneshot it took days
cloud ibex
yea no he didn't have a city one shotter
split pewter
so i expect that a lot of my complaints will just vanish as time goes on
cloud ibex
he had a city microwaver
heavy zenith
Did the devs say that?
young socket
it’s hard to keep track of the important characters in the crusade
its like eight characters what
split mortar
We know scal nuked ilmeris
Cei has clarrified it was 3-5 days long thing
young socket
ok let me rephrase
split pewter
lemme like
young socket
its eight characters that barely do anything
split pewter
yharim: so important and did literally everything
calamitas: we fight her, she blew up azafure, ???
we know basically nothing about braelor and statis
permafrost is actually kinda decent, his place in the world is fine
split mortar
Scal also nuked ilmeris
heavy zenith
yharim: so important and did literally everything
calamitas: we fight her, she b...
Welcome to an unfinished modpack, first time?
split pewter
draedon: we have his diary so we know a lot about him, but he basically just boils down to mad scientist who got booted out and is now doing whatever
heavy zenith
Im sure they'll sort things out really nicely
crimson junco
Nuking Tuki because u tupid
split pewter
devourer of gods: not much known in general but that part hasn’t been written or made yet
split mortar
devourer of gods: not much known in general but that part hasn’t been written or...
Eats god essence and so replaces wof
split pewter
the fact that u dont know that just tells me that u barely did any research at a...
sunken sea was originally ilmeris right?
young socket
yes
split pewter
you can’t really blame me for missing that detail because ilmeris isn’t really elaborated upon currently
at all
young socket
what
long bloom
it is
split mortar
Sunken sea is what remains of the ilmeran sea
young socket
its like one of the bigger things what
split mortar
Sunken sea is what remains of the ilmeran sea
Of which ilmeris was inside
split pewter
hold on what the fuck did i miss then lmao
i thought i read basically all of the lore
split pewter
did you read the sea remains weapon tooltips
the mf tooltips for craftable weapons?
young socket
yes
long bloom
yuh
split pewter
god guess i do have to talk about the terrible execution
what hasn’t already been said
cloud ibex
i gotta be real here
split pewter
You want a more in depth story but didn't read everything?
i’m sorry but i wasn’t even aware of a lot of the material that could be read
long bloom
bruh
cloud ibex
if the only place where ilmeris is really elaborated upon currently is the sea remains weapons
young socket
i’m sorry but i wasn’t even *aware* of a lot of the material that could be read
do u even know the bestiary has lore
split pewter
i didn’t know they put important shit in weapon tooltips
split pewter
do u even know the bestiary has lore
i read the bestiary
cloud ibex
i can't really blame them for missing that
split mortar
I forgor if theres a tell for canon tooltips and noncanon ones or not
cloud ibex
most weapons just have random fluff as tooltips, if anything at all
heavy zenith
There's a pinned lore document in this chat btw
split mortar
There's a pinned lore document in this chat btw
Has almost all ingame lore
real silo
Unfinished game
young socket
I forgor if theres a tell for canon tooltips and noncanon ones or not
theyre coloured and are actually significant
cloud ibex
assuming this one random set of weapons is the same really isn't that unreasonable
split pewter
if i can analyze again with a more complete understanding i will
split mortar
theyre coloured and are actually significant
How am i meant to tell its significant when uh
I may think its not canon
heavy zenith
I can see that. But with the power of Ctrl + F there's no excuse
split pewter
I can see that. But with the power of Ctrl + F there's no excuse
actually i have a pretty big excuse
young socket
How am i meant to tell its significant when uh
I may think its not canon
they actually say stuff instead of saying how powerful the weapon is
split mortar
#lore-discussion message
lore doc here
mighty zenith
i cant read
split pewter
having to use Ctrl F to find important and yet relatively obscure pieces of lore about a game’s story in a “supplemental” (not really) document is a bit asinine
young socket
i cant read
youre an undertale fan
mighty zenith
ture
eager bluff
you're a calamity player
split mortar
they actually say stuff instead of saying how powerful the weapon is
So orderbringers is canon (its a reference to a darksouls weapon)
mighty zenith
anyway yea unfinished game
cloud ibex
theyre coloured and are actually significant
TO BE FAIR there are some weapons that have colored tooltips that are also completely lore irrelevant
(ark of the cosmos)
split pewter
well it’s not even a game but for the sake of the argument i can treat it as such
young socket
(ark of the cosmos)
💥
split pewter
video game storytelling
mighty zenith
the next update is quite literally the ilmeris update in all but name
split mortar
the next update is quite literally the ilmeris update in all but name
Ilmeris
mighty zenith
shh
split pewter
TO BE FAIR there are some weapons that have colored tooltips that are also compl...
remember when yharim mansplained to you, the player, about each of the biome blade’s modes in excruciating detail
eager bluff
its illmeris because the meris is ill
mighty zenith
i would never make a mistkae
young socket
the next update is quite literally the ilmeris update in all but name
smthn smthn these merans are quite ill
cloud ibex
again, if the only place where ilmeris is really explained is this one fuckass set of early game weapons, i really can't blame anyone for missing it
young socket
again, if the only place where ilmeris is really explained is this one fuckass s...
its not
eager bluff
again, if the only place where ilmeris is really explained is this one fuckass s...
i can and i will 
real silo
it is rn
real silo
It will not be
eager bluff
also like 90% of sea king but shhh
real silo
In the future
young socket
its explained in yharim whisper, amidias and like a few bestiary entries
split mortar
Oh right i forgot amidias exists
cloud ibex
but overall i think the main problem here is simply unfinished mod moment
heavy zenith
but overall i think the main problem here is simply unfinished mod moment
This
split pewter
although yeah i already have said that i expect a lot of these issues to go away
eager bluff
but overall i think the main problem here is simply unfinished mod moment
well that and calamity players cant read
cloud ibex
although yeah i already have said that i expect a lot of these issues to go away
ye you did
cloud ibex
~~well that and calamity players cant read~~
💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥💥
young socket
the sea remains set has mainly worldbuilding for ilmeris except for like
fishbone boomerang
which explicitly says "no they didnt get one shot"
eager bluff
fishbone boomerang has a bit
split pewter
now y’all just gotta figure out how to tell a compelling story about the crazy wacky adventure of some fallen hero who’s pretty much dead and not have it be purely in random item descriptions and RNG shopkeeper dialogue
split mortar
Yharim isnt a fallen hero
split mortar
Yharim isnt a fallen hero
He thinks he is
heavy zenith
the sea remains set has mainly worldbuilding for ilmeris except for like
Wow never noticed that bit, thank you!
young socket
well as i just said the item descriptions are mainly worldbuilding and the rng is being changed to full on dialogue trees
so
cloud ibex
let people figure that out on their own
young socket
eager bluff
yeah no yharim really never was a hero
split mortar
let people figure that out on their own
Alright
split pewter
let people figure that out on their own
other mods made the expectations higher lmao
split pewter
yeah no yharim really never was a hero
a hero can be fallen without doing much heroing to begin with
young socket
a hero can be fallen without doing much heroing to begin with
then theyre not a fallen hero
eager bluff
if they never were a hero they cant be a fallen hero
eager bluff
yharim was always morally gray at best
split pewter
eh either way, the villain in this case is practically the main character
split mortar
Idk how morally grey fucking genocide is
split pewter
we’re just viewing his story from one of the perspectives of all time
split mortar
Hey chat ima do a morally grey thing kicks a baby
mighty zenith
Hey chat ima do a morally grey thing *kicks a baby*
thats pretty heroic idk
split mortar
split pewter
yharim could be a doctor who villain
split mortar
Whaur
eager bluff
i was mostly referring to the part where he did kinda sorta overthrow multiple dictatorships
young socket
thats pretty heroic idk
especially if the baby was called garbo
heavy zenith
It's heroic if you save it after you kick it
cloud ibex
i've never watched doctor who i can't verify the validity of this statement
eager bluff
ive never watched it and i shall say it is false
split pewter
i've never watched doctor who i can't verify the validity of this statement
not many people can
only god knows what a who villain is
young socket
i was mostly referring to the part where he did kinda sorta overthrow multiple d...
something something animal farm from george orwell
split pewter
hell half the time they aren’t even villains
mighty zenith
my first thought is "villain of the week who gets killed by a dalek to set up the finale of the season"
split pewter
except in this case yharim is more like davros
in terms of importance and influence
and also to a very rough extent character and actions???
bit of a stretch
long bloom
something something animal farm from george orwell
jorjor well
eager bluff
my first thought is "villain of the week who gets killed by a dalek to set up th...
right yeah daleks arent a one off thing they are recurring
split pewter
right yeah daleks arent a one off thing they are recurring
i think the terrarian could kill one
mighty zenith
they kill them off then bring them back with some bullshit then kill them off and
split pewter
generic murder robot go
you gotta keep in mind that daleks aren’t just generic murder robots
split mortar
How durable are daleks
split pewter
they’re the original generic murder robot
eager bluff
they're still generic murder robots
mighty zenith
cybermen are the other generic murder robots
split pewter
they’re actually interesting though
well, interesting on a regular basis
daleks are only interesting sometimes
eager bluff
i get that theyre ancient but they're still generic murder robot go
mighty zenith
mhm
mighty zenith
How durable are daleks
depends on the plot
split pewter
How durable are daleks
good question
daleks in recent stories are like
absolutely fucking nuts
eager bluff
they're like an scp they're exactly as strong as the plot needs them to be
split mortar
Can any tank a tsar bomba
split pewter
Can any tank a tsar bomba
actually probably not tbh
the average dalek across all plots couldn’t
split mortar
actually probably not tbh
Then scal could prob wreck some
eager bluff
they're like an scp they're exactly as strong as the plot needs them to be
which means they can be anywhere from tin can you push over to God Is Dead And We Ate Its Corpse
split pewter
hell at that point a dalek could probably take some reasonable damage from a tank shell though
however their technology allows them to delete planets so uhhh
fun
mighty zenith
my favorite thing about daleks is the fact that their inability to move up stairs in the old-ass series was a plot point
because its a sliding garbage can
eager bluff
ok but i also have an ability to delete them its called right click, properties, uninstall
eager bluff
ok but i also have an ability to delete them its called right click, properties,...
actually that isnt how you do that i think never mind
split pewter
i mean one of the doctors outright stated that if it’s a proper dalek from the war, none of earth’s military could disable an already damaged one
crucible daleks have no crazy forcefield so they get injured/damaged by like large firearms though
however a single dalek is kinda just screwed
on multiple occasions they’ve literally just been chained up in a room
on one occasion the gun was still functional but it just kinda couldn’t shoot anything
wheat walrus
green rathalos
vague jacinth
if the reason why Yharim couldn't slay Providence was because she could flee extremely quickly, how is the player able to defeat her?
split mortar
if the reason why Yharim couldn't slay Providence was because she could flee ext...
We have the profaned core (a giant chunk of her power) and she is extra enraged due to killing guardians
This is a fight she cant really back down from basically
vague jacinth
We have the profaned core (a giant chunk of her power) and she is extra enraged ...
another question, why wouldn't Yharim kill the guardians?
split mortar
I presume they can also just vanish like providence
To a lesser degree
I dont know it myself
Maybe providence could take them with her when teleporting but thats just a theory
cloud ibex
You kill her gatekeep girlboss gaslight polycule and she gets so mad she forgets to leave to save herself
vague jacinth
You kill her gatekeep girlboss gaslight polycule and she gets so mad she forgets...
this is the only canon answer
thick slate
if the reason why Yharim couldn't slay Providence was because she could flee ext...
he couldnt slay her
cause she slays too hard
vague jacinth
cause she slays too hard
Yharim vs Providence in dress to impress when?
split mortar
Commander not part of it
thick slate
provi solos
split mortar
Was you expecting me to be organised???
If i had all the quotes somewhere id just dump them in sscls
Wait why did you even think i did have them in one centralised area
Maybe i should do that
hoary berry
that’s what my quotes doc sort of became
although i stored them as images which was pretty inefficient
north wigeon
my favorite thing about daleks is the fact that their inability to move up stair...
correct me if I'm wrong but I think in the new series this also happens but they just fuckin fly over it lol
atleast the first ep of new who
jaunty wraith
Question: if yharim is more powerful then Providence, then why hasn't he taken her down by now
limpid saddle
Question: if yharim is more powerful then Providence, then why hasn't he taken h...
Because Providence is really good at running away
random mulch
providence just avoided yharim
jaunty wraith
Because Providence is really good at running away
Well Providence did one time despawn on me when she had like 5%hp left so I can confirm
limpid saddle
art imitates art
teal trench
how many times has lore changed at this point
I've heard 3 different ones so far
teal trench
I recall there was a lore where Xeroc betrayed Zeratross by taking advantage of its weak state to take his auric soul
Though that probably was a wrong interpretation from where I heard it
Just found out what actually happened yesterday
i got it wrong this whole time
random mulch
we dont really know if zeratross willingly gave xeroc their soul or not
mighty zenith
zeratros didnt exist in previous versions of the lore
its just that xeroc's ascension is left ambiguous
split mortar
We dont even know if zeratros was conscious at the time
late veldt
its just that xeroc's ascension is left ambiguous
i thought Xeroc was just... always there.
split mortar
i thought Xeroc was just... always there.
Whaur
late veldt
in old lore
split mortar
Xeroc is the culmination of all light gods fused into one in old lore iirc
split mortar
that's actually a cool concept
A lot in old lore is
Execution on the other hand… varies
late veldt
yeah
fuckin. highly advanced ancient society that created the corruption and is mentioned exactly once
split mortar
Angel demon war creating providence also like mentioned once
sturdy dust
Is dragons arie in the jungle?
late veldt
no
split mortar
No
late veldt
It's a floating island that's... somewhere
late veldt
It's hidden somehow, even Draedon doesn't know where
split mortar
Yet even draedon cant find it
late veldt
Possibly hidden somewhere in time rather than hidden in space
dusk laurel
the dragon which frost follows
sturdy dust
Ok, why is yharon only able to be summoned in the jungle then?
late veldt
I don't get old lore Yharim. He just kinda seems like he did shit. I guess that lines up with The Terrarian though
split mortar
Ok, why is yharon only able to be summoned in the jungle then?
You can summon yharon anywhere that got removed years ago
late veldt
Used to be tied to the jungle with the old lore but not really anymore
sturdy dust
How powerful is a god
late veldt
How powerful is a god
Anywhere from can dogwalk Yharim to Slime God
sturdy dust
Or dragon.
or anyone with aruic soul
split mortar
Same applies
late veldt
Or dragon.
or anyone with aruic soul
Yharon is the second strongest dragon, we don't really know what the weakest is since they're all dead
sturdy dust
Ok.
Who is the first?
late veldt
Zeratros, long dead
split mortar
The first auric dragon is probably life dragon
The first god is xeroc
late veldt
Xeroc (strongest god) absorbed his soul
late veldt
The first auric dragon is probably life dragon
The first god is xeroc
I think he means first in power
sturdy dust
Ok.
Imagine the terrarian absorbing all the auric souls.
split mortar
Ok.
Imagine the terrarian absorbing all the auric souls.
You would suffer
sturdy dust
Why
late veldt
That would not end well
You would become Polterghast but worse
you can't have too many souls in you without fucking stuff up
split mortar
Absorbing 2 already tears apart ones mind
3 and you become like polterghast (screaming mindless mess of souls that cant think straight)
late veldt
Even god souls are already highly unstable
sturdy dust
Oh yeah.
what else can you do with them
split mortar
You can use auric soul fragments to mock attune auric metal its how we use it
split mortar
Rebirth being better word since they are turned back to baby
sturdy dust
Is it possible to ressurect yharim
late veldt
He's still alive, but probably not
split mortar
Is it possible to ressurect yharim
Ressurection magic in calamity is inherently flawed it cannot fully bring someone back
sturdy dust
and have him ressurect the aruic souls?
late veldt
And even if he could Yharon can't revive Yharim if he's dead
sturdy dust
He's still alive, but probably not
even after you kill him
split mortar
and have him ressurect the aruic souls?
The Auric soul doesnt exist once a god absorbs it
limpid saddle
and have him ressurect the aruic souls?
He couldnt do that in the first place
split mortar
Theres nothing to rebirth
late veldt
and have him ressurect the aruic souls?
Yharim does not have an auric soul
limpid saddle
The ascension process destroys the auric soul, like gun said
late veldt
He just has a . person soul ig
sturdy dust
Oh
split mortar
Yeah yharims like 99% a regular guy
limpid saddle
It merges with the person's soul & becomes a God Soul, which is so unstable it explodes upon being removed from it's vessel
limpid saddle
Well just kill the gods and that's that?
Ultimately Yharon & Yharim do wish to revive the Dragons, but as is it's essentially impossible, the Crusades was a quest of vengeance, one that ended in failure
late veldt
Yeah yharims like 99% a regular guy
I mean the attunement with Yharon helps him. a lot.
limpid saddle
as y'know, no-one can kill Xeroc
split mortar
I mean the attunement with Yharon helps him. a lot.
Thats the 1%
sturdy dust
Except the terrarian
split mortar
Except the terrarian
we cant kill xeroc in game either
sturdy dust
Yet.
limpid saddle
Yeah the superboss is a spar
split mortar
Xeroc has the power of the actual sun
sturdy dust
OH
limpid saddle
He is the strongest character in the setting
late veldt
We can do better than Yharim ever could, but we still won't be close to actually killing him
sturdy dust
Well shit.
What do?
late veldt
Xeroc is reportedly chill
limpid saddle
Well we dont really need to do anything
Xeroc just spends all day in the sun training & watching reruns of Seinfeld
split mortar
Xeroc is the worlds guardian so like
Leave them alone
late veldt
Xeroc is reportedly chill
and also regularly prevents world's end
sturdy dust
I thought he killed the light dragon?
split mortar
and also regularly prevents world's end
^
Is likely the reason noxus doesnt just kill everything
limpid saddle
Zeratros just kinda died
Xeroc wasnt necessarily involved
As in, it would've happened either way
split mortar
I thought he killed the light dragon?
The guy was doomed to permanently die to the injuries moonlord did
It was best to save the power since the person couldnt be saved
pliant ruin
We don't know the context of how Zeratros died
Xeroc could've killed him or he could've willingly given up his soul
Maybe Xeroc just did a mercy blow to end his suffering and so that the soul of primordial light would live on
late veldt
I thought he killed the light dragon?
He probably had the killing blow but he was already on death's doorstep because The Moon Lord was fucking his (and every other dragon's) shit up
pliant ruin
The guy was doomed to permanently die to the injuries moonlord did
It was best t...
mhm
late veldt
He probably had the killing blow but he was already on death's doorstep because ...
Xeroc ascending turned the tide against The Moon Lord and is probably what caused the victory
sturdy dust
Oh
split mortar
Xeroc ascending turned the tide against The Moon Lord and is probably what cause...
Xeroc ascended after the moonlord stuff
late veldt
oh
limpid saddle
Yeah Emerald no idea where you're getting that from
sturdy dust
Ok.
I see, that makes sense
late veldt
Yeah Emerald no idea where you're getting that from
idk
limpid saddle
Well scribe to Zeratros so not exactly regular
It is confirmed they were attuned right?
late veldt
yeah I'm pretty sure
dusk laurel
yeah he had an auric mask as a monk
split mortar
It is confirmed they were attuned right?
Almost guaranteed since xeroc is able to touch auric
dusk laurel
and was close to zeratros
split mortar
See
limpid saddle
Ok just double-checking
sturdy dust
So the noxus superboss, how would that work
late veldt
his luscious locks live on in our hearts
limpid saddle
So the noxus superboss, how would that work
we go kill him
split mortar
So the noxus superboss, how would that work
Post yharim pre xeroc
late veldt
So the noxus superboss, how would that work
Xeroc can't kill the guy for whatever reason, likely cus they're running the fuck away, so he sends us to do it
pliant ruin
beat him to death
sturdy dust
Om
ok
Xeroc: go kill this bitch
Terrarian: ok
Is there also lore on the terrarian's connection to noxus
dense lynx
what power we would need in order to kill xeroc?
pliant ruin
say the line lore chat
limpid saddle
Is there also lore on the terrarian's connection to noxus
There isnt really a connection
split mortar
Is there also lore on the terrarian's connection to noxus
The terrarians lore is up to you
late veldt
Is there also lore on the terrarian's connection to noxus
I mean. Noxus is also a giant threat to the world
late veldt
The Terrarian is you!!!!
limpid saddle
THE WRITERS DONT CARE
dusk laurel
limpid saddle
THEY COULD BE A LEMON
split mortar
late veldt
what power we would need in order to kill xeroc?
Stronger than Xeroc 
limpid saddle
THEY COULD BE A SENTIENT GUN
dense lynx
Stronger than Xeroc <:hdfailure:1150027153879076945>
like planetary? galaxy level? universe level?
split mortar
what power we would need in order to kill xeroc?
To be stronger and more skilled then xeroc which is almost impossible
limpid saddle
like planetary? galaxy level? universe level?
oh boo this kind of power-scaling
yawn
late veldt
like planetary? galaxy level? universe level?
Xeroc is like moon level max
pliant ruin
stronger than xeroc
dense lynx
i am sure kirby would defeat xeroc easily
pliant ruin
that already answers your question
dense lynx
so we could defeat xeroc but we are not going to
split mortar
like planetary? galaxy level? universe level?
We only have dev statements but xeroc can like oneshot mount everest with a basic attack
Tho none confirmed and they can prob just drop the sun on us
limpid saddle
????
split mortar
so we could defeat xeroc but we are not going to
?
Scal is city level
sturdy dust
The terrarian's entire village worshiped a god, who was killed by yharim's forces.
He now goes on an adventure to avenge them.
Over time he learns about how gods are made and how he really isn't that diffirent from yharim
late veldt
so we could defeat xeroc but we are not going to
no the fuck we couldn't lol
split mortar
never will be
Not ingame atleast
limpid saddle
The terrarian's entire village worshiped a god, who was killed by yharim's force...
sure thats your terrarian
dense lynx
but if we could. that would mean gods era has finally ended.
pliant ruin
i mean yeah i guess
late veldt
but if we could. that would mean gods era has finally ended.
there's more than just the ones we fight
limpid saddle
shacked up in foreign countries
late veldt
there's more than just the ones we fight
and also you can't kill Silva without killing. all life. all of it
limpid saddle
most of them are dead
a fair few are undead
split mortar
Silva needing you to kill yourself then somehow kill her for her to die (and all other life on the planet)
limpid saddle
like a weird amount
dense lynx
i mean there is other mods, but i believe they arent gods.
sturdy dust
OH
so the gods are connected to their concepts
split mortar
i mean there is other mods, but i believe they arent gods.
Other mods arent canon
dense lynx
like ancient deity duo are most likely fake gods
split mortar
OH
so the gods are connected to their concepts
No its because silva is a elemental
limpid saddle
OH
so the gods are connected to their concepts
Not usually as directly as Silva
dense lynx
fake gods would most likely be alive. cause Yharim had no intention of pursuing them.
pliant ruin
this has nothing to do with other mods
split mortar
The only example of a fake god ingame is deus
pliant ruin
OH
so the gods are connected to their concepts
Nuh
its just silva
because silva is a elemental
split mortar
because silva is a elemental
Snail
sturdy dust
Elementals?
late veldt
and also you can't kill Silva without killing. all life. all of it
the worst you can do is strip mine a giant hole in a small playable strip of a continent, (or irradiate it heavily) and then spend too many hours of your life genociding Goblins
In game
limpid saddle
Elementals?
You know like the Brimstone Elemental
dense lynx
"I have no reason to pursue liers, not sinful of the divine crime"
limpid saddle
To truly kill one you have to remove all trace of it's element from existence
sturdy dust
OH
limpid saddle
So to kill the sand elemental you would need to destroy all dirt & minerals in the universe
split mortar
To truly kill one you have to remove all trace of it's element from existence
From the planet but thats semantics with how calamity isnt crazy high scaled
dense lynx
so entire calamity wouldn't happened if fovos didnt show and fuck everything up
late veldt
yeah
split mortar
Yeah
limpid saddle
yeah
late veldt
that's how stories happen really. and life
split mortar
Fovos wanted to eat fresh chicken
dense lynx
Would there be dragon of cooking then?
split mortar
We dunno
late veldt
probably not?
pliant ruin
dragon of hydrogen peroxide
limpid saddle
auric soul of bathtubs
dense lynx
dragon of darkness most likely
pliant ruin
probably not
dusk laurel
that doesnt exist i believe
random mulch
dragon of mild discomfort
dense lynx
but that would be possibility
late veldt
I mean dragons are usually constants or universal concepts
limpid saddle
auric soul of mustard gas
pliant ruin
dragon of hydrogen peroxide
late veldt
cooking isn't one of those
dense lynx
dragon of wind and dragon of minerals most likely
pliant ruin
hydrogen peroxide is though
late veldt
there's like one animal that cooks
limpid saddle
dragon of wind and dragon of minerals most likely
we got a dragon of storms
pliant ruin
vetrasyl
limpid saddle
we do not got a dragon of minerals
split mortar
dragon of darkness most likely
Zeratros may also have control over shadows but not confirmed since it was just an idea flosting among the writers iirc
pliant ruin
he was a chill guy
limpid saddle
thats just sand elemental
random mulch
dragon of eating dirt
dusk laurel
the true earth elemental
pliant ruin
i mean not like you cant have elementals and dragons with similar concepts
dusk laurel
yeah
pliant ruin
dragon of flame, brimmy
dragon of life, silva
but yea
as far as we know theres no dragon of minerals
limpid saddle
auric soul of farting a little too loud in a public space
pliant ruin
seems plausible tho
dusk laurel
auric soul of farting a little too loud in a public space
auric soul of killing calclone
🥱
limpid saddle
auric soul of killing calclone
i will obliterate it at all costs
dusk laurel
i did a perfect ascension on it
dense lynx
would there be ice dragon?
pliant ruin
auric soul of man i really want to go have some breakfast right now
dusk laurel
theres a frost dragon yeah
pliant ruin
would there be ice dragon?
yeah there is one
frost dragon
mhm
confirmed dragons to exsit afaik are
primordial light (zeratros), rebirth (yharon), life, death, flame, frost, storm (vetrasyl), gluttony, gravity
i dunno if i'm missing any
dusk laurel
war and dogma
pliant ruin
those r gods tho
dusk laurel
i have dementia
pliant ruin
dementia gaming
limpid saddle
yeah the dragons would have different domains
pliant ruin
as for gods we have
limpid saddle
deminillin
dusk laurel
yeah the dragons would have different domains
no shit sherlock
im killing calclone rn
limpid saddle
no shit sherlock
why is everyone so mean 2 me 💔
dense lynx
i believe there is dragon of poison
pliant ruin
primordial light (xeroc), life (silva), sacrifices/blood (ravager - absorbed death), ash (providence - absorbed flame), electricity (otonilou - absorbed storm), sea (tyrian), slime (absorbed gluttony), war, dogma, space (absorbed gravity)
again, dunno if im missing any
late veldt
Dogma dragon? Yharim really could have used that
split mortar
Space absorbed gravity
pliant ruin
no dogma god
limpid saddle
you gotta specify geometric space
dusk laurel
needless wording
late veldt
no dogma god
oh damn
split mortar
Chat theres a god of outerspace
pliant ruin
if anyone wants to learn more about their domain and asks about it THEN i'll explain it has to do wtih geometric space
limpid saddle
-# wait a minute. does this mean marital dispute canon?
???
split mortar
The dragon keyasmashed its name 
limpid saddle
auric soul of sudden brain hemmorhage
late veldt
god of brainrot
limpid saddle
new perforator & hive mind lore drop chat
dusk laurel
this is not new dawg
split mortar
Brainrot debuff image
random mulch
god of *** *** *** *** *** ***, the most important one
dusk laurel
dragon of pretty rainbows and wholesome moments
god of calamity
limpid saddle
late veldt
dragon of pretty rainbows and wholesome moments
god of calamity
that dragon died to Fovos
dusk laurel
fovos is not wholesome im afraid
random mulch
dragon of taking too long
split mortar
Dragon of this is stupid bye
pliant ruin
dragon of too too
dusk laurel
dragonstein
late veldt
dragon of Deltarune tomorrow
random mulch
dragon of SSO tomorrow
hoary berry
dragon
pliant ruin
dragon of sans undertale hur hur hur hur hur hur
hoary berry
dragon of 
late veldt
dragon of 🫃
snow mountain
dragon of 🫃
thats just yharon
split mortar
God of birth
late veldt
God of the binding of isaac afterbirth+
limpid saddle
God of the binding of isaac afterbirth+
is the auric soul repentance or wrath of the lamb
late veldt
is the auric soul repentance or wrath of the lamb
auric soul is the binding of isaac afterbirth
limpid saddle
auric soul is the binding of isaac afterbirth
i see
magic epoch
dragon of pretty rainbows and wholesome moments
god of calamity
Hey I remember that dragon
late veldt
dargon of typos
magic epoch
Dargon of Dyslexia
magic epoch
ur getting hunted btw
split mortar
God of yaoi
robust osprey
ur getting hunted btw
look I survived the previous hunt I can survive now
split mortar
👁️
you sure
robust osprey
yes I'm sure
magic epoch
if im the god of pride (as iam) what dragon did i eat
pliant ruin
dragon of yuri when
ur an enigma
yuri tag, yet ur in a yaoi relationship
bizzare organism
split mortar
Meowing is banned
pliant ruin
cant post gifs so sad
split mortar
https://media.discordapp.net/attachments/807809192537882647/1205460039943323688/...
Embed fsil
pliant ruin
thats u tho
robust osprey
can confirm 
untold oracle
dragon of yuri when
Me
hoary berry
you
faint totem
dragon of yuri when
Strongest dragon
untold oracle
Yessss
pliant ruin
madoka magica is now canon to calamity mod. amen
real silo
~~Definitely not related to what I'm watching~~
Are you watching the new yuri
visual kiln
meow
cosmic zenith
I'm watching Deltarune CH4
long bloom
cheese doesn't make cat sounds
pliant ruin
mrrrppp
pliant ruin
wtf...
stuck shore
no lea is goddess of yuri
Goddess of yuri needs to be canon
real silo
cheese doesn't make cat sounds
instead of cal-addon-talk sounds make cal-spoiler-talk sounds
genius!
dusk laurel
🔥
real silo
Billions of voices screaming "we want spoilers!!!!"
manic coral
i keep trying to go to this channel but i keep clicking on #challenge-runs instea dbecuase im sued to clicking where it is is go here
long bloom
hello cei
thick slate
ceiiii
thick slate
grr real life
untold oracle
When do we get fortnite canon in calalitymy
sinful adder
Hey @manic coral I'm going to assume you've played deltarune.
The mechanics of darkness would work really well for explaining how Xeroc can make things for boss rush, and would also work to explain the solar eclipse. You should consider making them canon
limpid saddle
Hey <@374676871700283392> I'm going to assume you've played deltarune.
The mec...
what an incredibly weird thing to ask
sinful adder
I just think using the same idea to explain how Xeroc's powers work would be cool
Negative light messes with reality and makes things in your mind come real, like an extreme version of how when it's almost completely dark your mind can play tricks on you and make you see things
warm gull
split mortar
Its right at the start of ch3 so its not the worst stuff to spoil
But yeah true it prob should be censored
split mortar
||I thought the negative light was explained in ch3…||
obsidian plume
||doesn't it get explained through the pumpkin boss in the middle of ch4?||
split mortar
||doesn't it get explained through the pumpkin boss in the middle of ch4?||
||Also gets explained by ralsei||
limpid saddle
i love getting spoiled because someone wants the calamity writers to steal an idea from another game (?????)
obsidian plume
Ah yeah, i think you're right my bad
sinful adder
i love getting spoiled because someone wants the calamity writers to steal an id...
It's not a very big spoiler. It's just a cool world building concept. Primordial light can give the world "truth", and the reverse of it or a lack of it could make anything become reality
I think it would be cool, that's all
split mortar
Its not confirmed xeroc controls dark tho…
cloud ibex
i mean
limpid saddle
Its not confirmed xeroc controls dark tho…
Yeah I thought the idea was it was only really by proxy if he did anyway
cloud ibex
what is darkness, if not the absence of light
limpid saddle
like just, moving light around to make darkness in a space
cloud ibex
if he controls light then in a sense he would control darkness too wouldn't he
split mortar
Yeah I thought the idea was it was only really by proxy if he did anyway
Nah the idea that we had seen was that darkness was also part of the primordial light domain iirc
split mortar
if he controls light then in a sense he would control darkness too wouldn't he
Maybe???
sinful adder
I thought it was confirmed
But anyways I think a primordial darkness, not just zero light but negative light, would be a neat idea
Or alternatively the absence of all primordial light can act that way without it being negative
split mortar
I thought it was confirmed
Was just a idea the devs had floating around iirc
snow mountain
joe biden
allowed the tribunal to ascend using the heart of lorkhan
how does this affect cal lore??
spring helm
it made Yharim a socialist
void vapor
"If we all work together, we can push Yharim to the left once he's in power"
hollow cedar
1.What is primordial light?
2. Who is a player in the Calamity lore?
3. What states were there besides Azafur and Ilmeris?
4. How is the world of Calamity organized geographically? Is there an official world map? What continents exist? If there are other continents, then there are new unknown biomes there? Did Yharim's crusade affect the entire earth?
5. How many dragons were there in the world?
Were there about the same number of gods as dragons?
How many gods did Yharim kill? (In percentages)
6. Who are Statis and Braelor?
7. Why didn't the dragons stay in the dragon's aerie during the extermination, hiding from people?
stoic gulch
1.What is primordial light?
2. Who is a player in the Calamity lore?
3. What sta...
Sun, up to you, more hell cities, like in the game basically but just 3d, unknown, unknown I think? they’re gay couple, braelor is in the distortion and statis is in hiding, no clue
Brief explanation at least
hollow cedar
Thanks
long bloom
1.What is primordial light?
2. Who is a player in the Calamity lore?
3. What sta...
more detailed explanation:
1: sunlight
2: you decide the player lore, they're your oc
3: we dunno
4: no official maps, and the crusade did span all 5 continents
5: a couple thousand
5.1: less gods than dragons
5.2: 90%
6: 2 legendary warriors that are gay married
7: to be revealed
also the sun isn't a star, it's special
vivid quiver
XD
stoic gulch
more detailed explanation:
1: sunlight
2: you decide the player lore, they're y...
Hey
I was almost right
I’m so cool
I will now think about drinking water cuz I don’t have it
stoic gulch
I can’t
hollow cedar
where are statis and braelor from? are they somehow connected to silva? what do you mean by "the sun is special"?
How is this couple connected to Yharim? Why were they fighting?
long bloom
where are statis and braelor from? are they somehow connected to silva? what do ...
braelor is the champion of silva from the jungle
statis is a ninja from the onyx kinsmen clan
stars in calamity are balls of mana, but the sun is made entirely of primordial light
and braelor and statis fought yharim because he's evil
hollow cedar
where can i find information about the onyx clan or can you tell me about it?
stoic gulch
How is this cutie evil
long bloom
where can i find information about the onyx clan or can you tell me about it?
ninja clan that worshipped slime god and signus until they all got yharimed (he obliterated them)
the only in game information about them is in slime god's lore item and maybe amidias dialogue
there's a pinned google doc with all the in game lore
for your browsing pleasure
or i could keep answering questions
stoic gulch
What cal bosses are edible
obsidian plume
all if you're brave enough
stoic gulch
Nono I’ve eaten them all
young socket
What cal bosses are edible
shut.
stoic gulch
But I’m immune to all debuffs
So what bosses is edible for a normal human
I think desert scourge would make some good jerky
Crabulon is kinda iffy
young socket
no skelli be quiet
long bloom
hive mind tastes like cancer probably
long bloom
IVE HEARD IT A MILLION TIMES
and you will hear it a million more
stoic gulch
Also get a pfp
long bloom
you cannot stop it
mighty zenith
What cal bosses are edible
✋
young socket
Also get a pfp
nu
long bloom
regular gel is supposedly tasty
mighty zenith
no more
stoic gulch
Cryogen should be edible tho
hollow cedar
ninja clan that worshipped slime god and signus until they all got yharimed (he ...
Tysm
mighty zenith
no more edible bosses
stoic gulch
And I’ve never discussed it
stoic gulch
no more edible bosses
Ok
mighty zenith
one too many times is enough
stoic gulch
Edible mini bosses
mighty zenith
stoic gulch
Cnidridon would make some good fried shrimp
long bloom
draconic swarmer bbq chicken
young socket
ur telling me a horse fried this shrimp
stoic gulch
ur telling me a horse fried this shrimp
Yes a fried shrimped this horse
opaque tartan
perferators would easily be the most delicous
long bloom
hey guys
stoic gulch
Hai
long bloom
what does yh gets shot
mighty zenith
🚬
dusk laurel
This channel makes people feverish gluttons
opaque tartan
Yharon would be an extra spicy chicken
stoic gulch
Burnt extra spicy chicken
dusk laurel
"what does the hivemind taste like"
dawg what
opaque tartan
it would ascend beyond your controll
opaque tartan
"what does the hivemind taste like"
dawg what
spoiled meat
stoic gulch
Yummy
dusk laurel
👎
opaque tartan
Wait is yharon a dragon or a pheonix its unclear. his bossbar says he's a resplendant pheonix but other sources say he's the jungle dragon
limpid saddle
Wait is yharon a dragon or a pheonix its unclear. his bossbar says he's a resple...
he's the dragon of rebirth
'Jungle dragon' is an old lore title
opaque tartan
ok so not a pheonix
limpid saddle
He is reffered to as a phoenix because he does the things phoenixes do
which is y'know, come back from dying
opaque tartan
He is reffered to ***as*** a phoenix because he does the things phoenixes do
that doens't make sence
young socket
he breaths fire and rebirths
limpid saddle
yeah thats like the two phoenixes do
long bloom
Wait is yharon a dragon or a pheonix its unclear. his bossbar says he's a resple...
both
opaque tartan
he breaths fire and rebirths
pheonix's are birds, dragons are reptiles
long bloom
dragons in calamity are wildly varying
limpid saddle
pheonix's are birds, dragons are reptiles
Dragons are kinda whatever in Calamity
opaque tartan
Dragons are kinda whatever in Calamity
fair
limpid saddle
You know the Primordial Wyrm?
opaque tartan
ye
limpid saddle
Thats a Dragon off-shoot
long bloom
he could literally be a dragon-phoenix for all we know
dusk laurel
not an auric dragon but like their cousin
a descendant.
dusk laurel
basilisks are offshoots too
long bloom
the other one
limpid saddle
and pigrons
and wyverns
yup yup
long bloom
basilisks are offshoots too
public?
long bloom
nice
dusk laurel
right
long bloom
ok yeah it's there
opaque tartan
I feel like exomechs would taste like rainbow sprinkles
long bloom
i completely missed the basilisk part every single time i read it somehow
young socket
their bestiary talks about how they make electricity
limpid saddle
I feel like exomechs would taste like rainbow sprinkles
they would taste like metal
unless you mean Exo Prisms?
opaque tartan
no exo mechs
limpid saddle
then it would taste like your tounge getting fried & then you die
opaque tartan
then it would taste like your tounge getting fried & then you die
but if you theoritically could easily eat them
long bloom
booooooo
opaque tartan
☹️
long bloom
everyone throw tomatoes at vanillin
gritty kraken
y’all eat bloodstone raw or no
limpid saddle
but if you theoritically could easily eat them
it would still taste like metal & or instantaneous death
stoic gulch
Can I throw eggplants at vanillin
opaque tartan
y’all eat bloodstone raw or no
nah I eat ravager
long bloom
y’all eat bloodstone raw or no
straight from the geode
dusk laurel
thrown into a ditch
limpid saddle
im killing calclone
you cannot kill her in any way that matters
long bloom
doesnt change that shes the worst boss until they rework her 😇
🍅🍅🍅
limpid saddle
doesnt change that shes the worst boss until they rework her 😇
you say that & yet
ravager
dusk laurel
like you
dusk laurel
you couldve also just said dog
since unlike ravager you cant avoid it to complete progression
long bloom
low%:
dusk laurel
still need endothermic energy
pliant ruin
pheonix's are birds, dragons are reptiles
phoenixes are not real
dragons are also not real
its fiction you can do wahtever you want
and as the others said phoenix is just a title alluding to the fact that he does things that phoenxies do 👍 feathered, has ressurection powers
can breathe Fire
long bloom
still need endothermic energy
sso:
dusk laurel
the fuck does sso change
long bloom
triangle dev item has enough endothermic energy for cooling cell
long bloom
looking into this
pliant ruin
@grok what do you think of this
dusk laurel
😔
young socket
looking into this
tringle trangle said it most likely wont come for sso
dusk laurel
^
long bloom
god fucking damnit
mighty zenith
@grok what do you think of this
fuck you
pliant ruin
ur not grok
mighty zenith
im korg
paper spindle
Anyone know just wtf Providence and the profaned guardians are
opaque tartan
phoenixes are not real
fair
opaque tartan
Anyone know just wtf Providence and the profaned guardians are
gods
paper spindle
And why they get stronger at night
opaque tartan
And why they get stronger at night
magic
stoic gulch
Anyone know just wtf Providence and the profaned guardians are
@fathom jasper is this your brother
paper spindle
Does Providence have a face?
opaque tartan
Does Providence have a face?
ye
paper spindle
ye
Where the hell is it? I've heard people talk about it but I can't seem to find one
opaque tartan
This is being removed
Whyy its so cool
paper spindle
This is being removed
Okay so it isn't canon anymore
pliant ruin
Nope
dusk laurel
the providence enrage will be activated by double clicking her summon item
instead of being nighttime
pliant ruin
Yeah the enrage will stay but it won't be related to it being night
opaque tartan
ok so it still exists thats nice
dusk laurel
also profaned guardians wont have the rage anymore
paper spindle
Well that's nice
opaque tartan
ik
opaque tartan
thats her head
paper spindle
I see three different things that could be her eyes right now
dusk laurel
see
dusk laurel
this is why she needs a resprite
paper spindle
And one of them looks like dead cells guy
long bloom
green is eyes
paper spindle
Ah
opaque tartan
now that you outline the head it kinda looks like the discord logo
long bloom
yeag
dusk laurel
her sprite is so noisy people get confused where the stupid face is
paper spindle
What about the guardians
opaque tartan
her sprite is so noisy people get confused where the stupid face is
I always thought it was obvious
dusk laurel
the pokeball heads
pliant ruin
closest the guardians have to a head are the flaming pokeballs yea
paper spindle
Wtf
dusk laurel
devs redesign the profaned content and world peace will be restored
opaque tartan
its kinda just fire
long bloom
immolators
paper spindle
GET RID OF UELIBLOOM TODAY
Why the hate for uelibloom
long bloom
pokeball
opaque tartan
GET RID OF UELIBLOOM TODAY
what you have against uelibloom
young socket
Why the hate for uelibloom
horrid set
dusk laurel
uelibloom sucks i hate it
paper spindle
It's one of my fav ores
opaque tartan
horrid set
why u hatin its a good set
pliant ruin
well theres alot of reasons!
young socket
is not related to provi and is another plant material but it literally does nothing with that fact aside from armour being somewhat tanky
opaque tartan
I guess
young socket
plus provi alr has her own material
pliant ruin
- its yet another plant/nature themed armorset, of there which are already W ay Too Fucking Many
- Despite spawning from providence it has literally nothing to do with her aesthethics or lore
paper spindle
is not related to provi and is another plant material but it literally does noth...
And that's good for summoner I guess. Still weird that it's not related to provi
young socket
its called divine geode !!
opaque tartan
but it kinda makes since like you clense the profanities and you get a purified plant ore
pliant ruin
the profanities??
young socket
what
pliant ruin
you tell the plants to stop saying swears???
opaque tartan
the profanities??
killing providence
pliant ruin
providence has absolutely nothing to do with plants
dusk laurel
uelibloom isnt purified
pliant ruin
nor has she been telling plants to say fuck and bitch
opaque tartan
providence has absolutely nothing to do with plants
I think your overanalyzing
paper spindle
I should ask if Providence is the goddess of profanity does swearing into my mic make her stronger?
young socket
that for some reason spawns in the jungle when she dies
its not even locked to the jungle
young socket
it can spawn in any mud as long as its underground
dusk laurel
its not even locked to the jungle
😭
young socket
😭
opaque tartan
I should ask if Providence is the goddess of profanity does swearing into my mic...
yes
dusk laurel
this shit sucks
pliant ruin
that has absolutely nothing to do with the character its coming from
and say
"it has nothing to do with the character its coming from"
paper spindle
Also how is a goddess of profanity that strong or is there some double meaning of profanity that I'm missing
pliant ruin
she is not a goddes of profanity
pliant ruin
😭 did you really take a joke taht seriously
opaque tartan
I have to admit I was looking all around the jungle for uelibloom on my first playthrough only to relize its not there
paper spindle
So what's her domain? Hell? Hallow?
pliant ruin
providence goddess of fuck you bitch ass motherfucker asshole bitch
opaque tartan
So what's her domain? Hell? Hallow?
bolth
dusk laurel
ash
pliant ruin
yes she's being moved away from them
dusk laurel
she is not made from a fucking angel demon war anymore
paper spindle
So that's being reworked too?
split mortar
Back when she was a fusion of holy and hell powers
pliant ruin
her domain is ash, and she absorbed the soul of the dragon of flame
split mortar
So that's being reworked too?
Profaned biome iirc
pliant ruin
So that's being reworked too?
if the profaned biome comes she'll be there
paper spindle
providence goddess of fuck you bitch ass motherfucker asshole bitch
Makes sense for infernum guardians
dusk laurel
kill moon lord -> profaned biome -> guardians are there, kill them -> providence spawns anywhere near you if you have the profaned core or smth idfk
pliant ruin
providence jumpscare
split mortar
Providence jumpscare
pliant ruin
i hope the idea that providence can just randomly spawn while you have the core is kept
it'd be funny as hell
opaque tartan
fr
long bloom
just comes for your ass