lore-discussion

[gaunt sluice]

but seriously why the hell can't I get a normal looking world gen

[light linden]

I would

[cosmic zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/frieren-frieren-beyond-journey's-end-sousou-no-frieren-anime-menacing-gif-14669549200295475965

[light linden]

ok np

[heavy zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/waah-waa-sad-wah-waaah-gif-25875771

wait are there any in game mentions of Noxus currently?

[long bloom]

no namedrops but they're alluded to a couple times

[robust osprey]

nope, iirc draeyap implies a powerful being in control of the distortion or atleast part of it

which is noxus

[sharp thunder]

loooool

[long bloom]

wgat

[sharp thunder]

draeyap

[languid owl]

is there any official art of Silva?

[split mortar]

Yes

[languid owl]

where can i find it?

[split mortar]

This

[languid owl]

ohhh ty!

[snow mountain]

wait am i still on fire

oh

[split mortar]

Why are you on fire

[calm patio]

🚒

[deft vessel]

I dont think thats Silva

[split mortar]

It attaches to a doc :/

[deft vessel]

Ah

[cloud ibex]

if you wish to no longer be on fire just say so

[cloud ibex]

she asked to be warm

[snow mountain]

i love being warm

[split mortar]

[tidal karma]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/emojis/1377822509138706462.webp?size=128

[minor moon]

Could yharim beat xeroc if he is from another universe which he consumes zeratros' soul

[cloud ibex]

probably not

[haughty seal]

yharim would probably have to train for a few hundred years

but he is stronger than xeroc was as a mortal

so he has that advantage

[split mortar]

unlikely

[light linden]

question

y'all think if yharim ascended with yharon's soul he'd be strong enough to fight xeroc?

[split mortar]

I think yharim would be weaker then they are rn

[dusk laurel]

no

[haughty seal]

not only did xeroc ascend with a stronger dragon

he also has 800 years of training

[split mortar]

Tbf uh
In the concept art we have xeroc doesnt look that old while yharim is 130 ish

[haughty seal]

i remember a statement a while ago saying that xeroc was around yharon level when he ascended

[split mortar]

Other writers have been iffy with a defined strength or wanting xeroc to be weaker
So
Its just nebulously “strong enough” but below yharim

[haughty seal]

also keep in mind that yharim is in his physical peak despite being 130

so age doesn't matter too much in this case

[split mortar]

My point is that yharims had more time to grow

Then human xeroc

[haughty seal]

Yeah

[split mortar]

Not that age would weaken the guy

[haughty seal]

I do think yharim would beat xeroc with zeratros's auric soul and the same amount of training

[split mortar]

I dont

[haughty seal]

why not?

[split mortar]

Would yharim perfect ascend

And if yes

[haughty seal]

Assuming that he did

[split mortar]

Why would the guy be stronger

Xeroc was likely also attuned to zeratros

[split mortar]

As i said yharim as a mortal is almost certainly much older AND buffed by draedon tech then xeroc right before ascending

So ultimately i dont think we can discredit xeroc as a weaker human just cause we dunno how strong the guy would be when in the same state as yharim

[haughty seal]

Yeah thats a good point

I think it would still be close though

[split mortar]

Also xeroc likely has more knowledge on primordial light control then yharim the physical strength guy due to having directly worked with zeratros

[minor moon]

How many draedons does it take to beat 1 rick sanchez (C-137) [serious]

[split mortar]

Rick would pull out some bs and blow up that half of the universe

[minor moon]

Theres no limit to the number of draedons that can fight rick, so there could be a multiverse amount of em

[split mortar]

Makes a virus that spreads and kills the draedons before being able to approach rick

[cosmic minnow]

Up to what boss could an Abrams tank firing armor piercing shots reach?

(Or heat and let’s not forget the m2 browning 50 cal)

[split mortar]

Uhhh

Idk

Homelander dies like right into hm iirc so prob before that

[faint totem]

He dies to queen slime?

[minor moon]

How many grugs does it take to beat DoG

[split mortar]

Grug solos irl so uh 1

[magic epoch]

personally don't think so

me when iam weak to fire

[faint totem]

He definitely dies to the first mech boss tho right.

[magic epoch]

not too sure

i could see him being able to like. fuck up twins

[minor moon]

Laser would reflect from their Steel bodies

[magic epoch]

that's just

[split mortar]

They dont have steel bodies…

[magic epoch]

also why don't other lasers do that

[faint totem]

The twins MAYBE. He dies to prime or destroyer tho

[split mortar]

All mechs are equal

[faint totem]

Sez you

[split mortar]

They are equal in boss progression

[minor moon]

He would lose to the EoL

[faint totem]

Yeah, empress claps John.

She shoves a light sword right where the sun don’t shine and splits him in half

[magic epoch]

definitely dies to leviana

[faint totem]

Who

[magic epoch]

leviathan anahita

[split mortar]

Anahita leviathan

[faint totem]

Ohhh

[pliant ruin]

what are we atlkingabout

[split mortar]

cal bosses vs a tank

[magic epoch]

i thought it was John Homelander vs calamity bosses

[split mortar]

it moved to that topic

[faint totem]

John is a brimmy victim.

[paper spindle]

Don't mind me just popping in here to confirm that Wotg and Hotog aren't canon right?

[split mortar]

They are not in base cal so yeah correct

No addons are canon

[paper spindle]

Good to know

[split mortar]

And the only official one is a music mod

[paper spindle]

Also my friend forcing me to listen to the ultra kill soundtrack.
'If machines could die' sounds like Antarctic reinforcement

[paper spindle]

The necessary one? Or the other one

[split mortar]

Vcmm

[paper spindle]

?

[split mortar]

Vanilla calamity music mod

[paper spindle]

That's canon?

Wow

[split mortar]

Im saying its official

Not canon

[paper spindle]

Ah okay

[paper spindle]

I thought this meant voice chat my mum for some reason

[split mortar]

Lmao

[paper spindle]

I assume you've played through some addons

[minor moon]

DELTARUNE 2 DAYS AGO

[paper spindle]

I wanted to know if wrath of the machines is worth adding to my old ahh laptop

[split mortar]

Played wotg ages ago (before avatar) and same for hotog and catalyst

[paper spindle]

Not unless I play the game

I refuse to change it until I do

[split mortar]

Havent played calamity in a hot bit

Mods change it

Yharim vs sans

[minor moon]

Btw the roaring knight is gaster and ralsei is actually sans

[paper spindle]

"I 'befriended' your dragon last night"

[split mortar]

“Befriended” in more quotation marks

[minor moon]

Befriended with a question mark

[paper spindle]

My personal theory is that ralsei is Kris's fixation on asriel personified by the darkness. Hence why he can travel between worlds

[minor moon]

Would it be a spoiler if i tell you that the dark worlds are actually

[paper spindle]

Don't tell me

I don't wanna know

I'll know by June 19th

[minor moon]

Alr, play it asap or the fandom will bomb you with spoilers

[paper spindle]

I'm trying to survive YouTube

[minor moon]

Block r/undertale. r/deltarune and r/ultrakill

[cloud ibex]

block reddit

[paper spindle]

I dead ass just uninstalled Reddit. I'm in too many subs

[cloud ibex]

anyway this is calamity lore discussion not deltarune lore discussion

[paper spindle]

I don't play ultra kill tho

My friend forcing me to listen to the soundtrack

[minor moon]

Im sorry mister mod

[paper spindle]

I'm considering playing it now

[cloud ibex]

just imagine i said some topically relevant joke about moving over to gen media if you wanna continue i can't think of any

[minor moon]

Or shall i say, the saint of gardens

[cloud ibex]

that is indeed a display name i use on occasion

[minor moon]

Figured it out cuz i like to memorize bios

[split mortar]

just shout their name at random people to find out if its one of their 38576478536 nicknames and pfps

[cloud ibex]

if you pay close enough attention you can probably tell just by the way i talk

[split mortar]

i just tell its you by memorising your pfp and nicknames

since its always like one pfp with a set name

[cloud ibex]

that it is

well other than right now i guess

[untold oracle]

Goupert Funkerdinckle

[wheat walrus]

The horse of truths and righteousness thinks you should also ban the user 🐴

[warm gull]

DESTROY

[hoary berry]

dai’s pfp looks so odd in light mode

[warm gull]

switch off light mode

[hoary berry]

no

[hoary cape]

light mode is broken never use it

[strange stump]

what the fuck are YOU doing here

ive never seen you on calmain

[warm gull]

what the fuck

[split mortar]

They left once the image and embed perms died but with fabsol gone and image perms back they rejoined a few weeks ago

[warm gull]

"done with calamity" my ass

[warm gull]

and YES YOU HAVE

[split mortar]

Wait thats why space left sscls ?

[warm gull]

we literally talked about worldbuilding loredumps in this channel before you rejoined sscls space...

do you not remember...

oh wait he already left again

I'm talking to no one

😭

[minor moon]

guys i have an idea, lets rededicate the npc that sells the alcohols and candles to ozzatron

[paper spindle]

Why did that say pots before?

[minor moon]

what

[paper spindle]

And how do you mix up pots and alcohol

[paper spindle]

I mean before you edited it

[minor moon]

who? me? never!

[paper spindle]

My mistake original gangster

[last oxide]

yharim released yet?

[dusk laurel]

no

[limpid saddle]

give it 7 more years

[last oxide]

[dusk laurel]

youre very predictable yk

[limpid saddle]

thats awesome

[robust osprey]

yes ||in YOMI Hustle||

[split mortar]

They plan to update and add basically everything else planned before adding yharim

iirc

[last oxide]

i don't care about yomi, i want yharim in Terraria

[trim peak]

Still might be a while as a result

[split mortar]

Yharim is the final boss for players and devs

[trim peak]

Although I think I'd rather they furbish the game, making it as refined and perfect as they can before tackling the precipice of the mountain (Yharim)

[last oxide]

i hope boss fight is at least one year long

[trim peak]

Like it lasts a whole year?

I mean I don't think with Yharim's current state he has the willpower for that

[split mortar]

Less so will power and just
Time till age

[last oxide]

yeah, give him 1500000000000000000000 hp

[trim peak]

True dude might as well be a crotchety old man

[split mortar]

The nefarious 32bit integer limit

[last oxide]

wait, how am i in lore discussion

[trim peak]

It's like this image except it's with The Terrarian and Yharim

[minor moon]

More like 700 eons

[last oxide]

give him multiple yharon rebirths to compensate

[split mortar]

The horrors reached out and kidnapped you here

[split mortar]

💔

[trim peak]

Oh yeah true you can't excel a certain quantity of damage otherwise some really janky ass shit starts happening

[minor moon]

We are actually a cult and you joined us against ur will

[last oxide]

btw they should give him zero damage so players just die from exhaustion

[split mortar]

Read the 100+ page lore document containing what’s ingame

[last oxide]

also make some mechanic that kills characters if player is afk for 2 minutes

[last oxide]

where

[split mortar]

[last oxide]

ok

[faint totem]

Several things about that lore doc made me laugh. Like these.

[split mortar]

The lore cool

[faint totem]

Yes

And I love that the Terrarian being horrible at naming things is actually canon

[split mortar]

Its legit the only canonised thing of the terrarian

[faint totem]

That’s amazing.

[split mortar]

The rest is left blank for you to make your own oc for

[faint totem]

The only thing that’s consistent is being horrible at naming things

I’m guessing there are a few things we had names provided to us for, like Empress Of Light. 5 gold says we named Skeletron

[split mortar]

We named skeletron prime but idk about base skeletron

[faint totem]

What all do we think(besides the canon stuff) the Terrarian named

[split mortar]

the tooltips is them over exaggerating how good their gear is by a lot imo

[faint totem]

Absolutely

I also personally headcanon the Terrarian with multiple scars from each time the nurse has had to heal them/each time they abused healing potions, like a large one from slimes trying to digest them.

[last oxide]

second reminds me about "this is fine" meme

[faint totem]

Omg

[heavy zenith]

Wait wtf I didn't know this lore document exists

Bro I just pieced all the lore and bestiaries together😭😭

[faint totem]

Yep

[tropic quartz]

i read the 102 page lore doc owwy my brain oo ow

i didnt know there were so many gods i thought there were like, 3 tops

the character reference page is cool too

scrolled to silva and immediately licked my screen

[hoary cape]

Don't be weird

Also yah there are a lot of gods

Yharim just killed a good chunk of them

[long bloom]

by good chunk they mean literally 90%+

[rotund shore]

Yeah by the events of the game only like, four are alive I think

Five if you count ravagers current state as any amount of “alive”

[jaunty wraith]

Is there a lore reason why pigs are so tough

[hoary cape]

Well 5 that we know of

But Silva, provi, sg are the ones I know the name of though

And xeroc

[real silo]

because they're haram

[hoary cape]

But outside of that there are probably more

[long bloom]

definitely more than that

they're probably just in hiding

[rotund shore]

Okay then errrr they should come out of hiding so the game can have a dozen more bosses

[dusk laurel]

🔥

[hoary cape]

Not all of them are evil

[real silo]

you're evil

[hoary cape]

No u

[real silo]

I know myself to be evil

[hoary cape]

I am not evil

I am the most good of people

[hearty ingot]

xeroc is evil?

[hearty ingot]

real

[jaunty wraith]

The only person who talks about xeroc is yharim, but hes not reliable for thag

[hearty ingot]

yharim hates everything that is related to gods

so we cant trust him

[jaunty wraith]

Exactly

[hearty ingot]

i suppose yharim is the main antagonist

[jaunty wraith]

You think?

[hearty ingot]

i dont know much about lore

[jaunty wraith]

He is the main antagonist

Half the bossess are related to him and the aftermath of his crusade

[hearty ingot]

terrarians goal is to stop yharim right?

[jaunty wraith]

Terrarian has no lore

Its a blank slate for the player

The only confirmed thing I can think of is that we're the ones naming the bosses and items (and by draeodns account we suck at it)

[spare pier]

Skeletron Prime 🔥

[wooden shadow]

Draedon is a loser
Miracle Matter is cool name

[spare pier]

Honestly I really like the thing I sorta came up with that

Skeletron actually came second

The Cultists looked at Prime and said

"Hey, that thing is pretty scary. What if we made our gatekeeper like it?"

[real silo]

Fucked up

Are you telling me the evils saw destroyer and thought "damn I gotta recreate that"

[spring helm]

no that's just the calamity worm convergent evolution

[real silo]

What about twins eye of deluhlu

[spare pier]

I actually do think Twins were inspired by Demon Eyes

[spring helm]

just like how irl carcinization

[spare pier]

Destroyer is just lol lmao

[hearty ingot]

sad

[spare pier]

Worms are good at digging

[hearty ingot]

such a goodanm character

[real silo]

Wrong moles are better

Owned

[spring helm]

yeah isnt the destroyer literally just like

an excavator that Draedon put a bunch of weapons on

[spare pier]

Damn.....

[wooden shadow]

Clothier: I sure do love being a simple tailor and not a doorman for a creepy dungeon
Dragon Cult: I'm gonna do something funny

[spare pier]

Honestly now that you say it

[hearty ingot]

who is the creator in calamity?

[real silo]

Draedon should've made a mole bot

[hearty ingot]

the creator of the universe

idk

[spare pier]

It's kinda cute to think how Thanatos is, essentially

The final evolution of an Excavator

[spring helm]

we dont know if there even is one

[hearty ingot]

who created the world in calamity lore?

[spare pier]

One of his first constructions

No one

There isn't a creator deity or whatever

[hearty ingot]

a

[real silo]

Excavator mark 3 literally looks like thanatos 0.5

[hearty ingot]

in vanilla lore the creator is moonlord i suppose

[spare pier]

...No but ok

[spring helm]

no?

[spring helm]

if it ain't broke don't fix it

[hearty ingot]

so what he is

the destroyer?

i dont know much the lore

[spring helm]

what

[spare pier]

Moon Lord is just the bad guy

There's

Really not much else in Vanilla

He's literally just the bad guy lmao

[spring helm]

there isnt really any "official" lore, just headcanons you can make based on what you find in-game

[hearty ingot]

The only thing I remember from the vanilla Terraria lore is that the Moon Lord just wanted to destroy everything.

[spring helm]

and also whatever redigit finds funny on twitter or something

[hearty ingot]

lol

[spare pier]

Well, there is but that's just the Bestiary which is really lackluster

It's literally just

Moon Lord exists and he's evil as fuck. Cultists want to bring him back. You stop them

That's Vanilla Lore for you

[spring helm]

terraria is a jrpg

you start by killing slimes and end with killing god

[spare pier]

No, if it was then Moon Lord would actually be a creator deity

[spring helm]

true

[wooden shadow]

Does the Dragon Cult consider the Draconic Offshoots to be sacred in any way?

[spare pier]

Maybe idk

We actually don't have much written about how they feel on Offshoots

My personal take is that they kinda don't give a shit

[spring helm]

most of them aren't even sapient

not much worship to be had there compared to the auric counterparts

[wooden shadow]

Old Duke and Wyverns are the sapient ones correct?

[spare pier]

The way I view it, Yharim likes dragons because of their society and what they were. Offshoots are what they are because of Gods, they would've been far greater if they didn't exist

Cultists like Dragons because of their auric souls

Therefore, they don't give a shit about Offshoots

[wooden shadow]

Interesting

[spare pier]

But as always

Take this with a grain of salt lo

[spring helm]

yeah reb's not even a lore writer it's all just her headcanon

[hearty ingot]

why yharim is so strong

[wooden shadow]

He lifts

[dusk laurel]

hype moments and aura

[spring helm]

he tries really really hard to be strong

[terse cairn]

Maybe having his soul fused with Yharon's helps too

He was already going to be crowned as the almighty god-emperor of mankind before that though so he might just be built different

[tropic quartz]

gods get their power from worship..
yharim has thousands that would fight/die for him...
he's got something going on with yharon's auric whatever, basically god power....
yharim is strong because he's a god confirmed real 2025🔥

[hoary cape]

The gods didn't get their power from worship though

They got them from killing a dragon stealing the auric soul and doing a ritual to bond it with their own soul

[tropic quartz]

my yharim thing wasnt serious. but i saw a lot in the lore doc about gods drawing power from worshippers though; the whole thing about forging their strength and being powered by followers' will and stuff? unless i interpreted it wrong

[real silo]

I think only Really Evil gods do that

Like provi

Having faith in someone doesn't magically buff them basically

But they draw power through other means

[tropic quartz]

like rituals and sacrifices n junk?

[real silo]

Yea probably

[faint totem]

What would Yharim think of the torch god

[hoary cape]

I don't know if that's even a god in calamity lore lol

[heavy zenith]

better yet, what would the torch dragon look like

[faint totem]

Is there lore on torch god in calamity? Also that reminds me of a post i made in #calamity-mod-talk

Or was it addon talk

Found it!

Behold

And this

More Trophies and Relics is hilarious

[calm patio]

deerclops isnt canon anyways

[faint totem]

Your point?

I still want to know the official lore on the torch god in calamity

[long bloom]

i asked the devs, waiting on a verdict

[faint totem]

Yay

[long bloom]

rebecca says no

no additional lore

[faint totem]

Awww. Fair enough tho

It is kinda dumb tbh

I personally like the idea that the torch god is just the name people gave to a phenomenon that’s caused by some form of curse

[long bloom]

reb's favorite headcanons people made for torch god are:
-carbon monoxide induced hallucination
-xeroc just fucking with you

[spare pier]

Ahem

[faint totem]

I like that last one.

[faint totem]

Hello!

[spare pier]

What I said on Patreon about Torch God

[stark basalt]

yharim never hunted down the torch god because he liked getting high on the torch fumes

[faint totem]

Oh cool!

[faint totem]

I like that too

He just snorts torch fumes

Maybe the torch god in general is just Xeroc fucking with people. Being immortal has gotta get boring.

You gotta pass the time somehow

[magic epoch]

yharim never encountered the torch god because he's not a dumbass when it comes to placing torches

[jaunty wraith]

Is torch god even canon?

[robust osprey]

ye

[split mortar]

Yes

[robust osprey]

we just know like 0,002% of what torch god is

[split mortar]

Headcanon!

[jaunty wraith]

Torch god is the real most powerful entity

[robust osprey]

I mean if xeroc gets a fire debuff torch god is likely to inflict that....

torch god with primordial light burning

[jaunty wraith]

Torch god can inflict vulnerability hex

The only character who can do that is calamitas

[robust osprey]

...wasnt that exos?

[split mortar]

Thats daybreak

[jaunty wraith]

No exos Inflict miracle blight

[split mortar]

Or well
Daybroken

The solar flare debuff

[robust osprey]

daybrokener

[eager bluff]

torch god is carbon monoxide poisoning induced hallucinations

[jaunty wraith]

What is the offical lore exclamation for Torch god

[split mortar]

?

[robust osprey]

wat

[split mortar]

Its an unknown entity

We know jack shit of it

[robust osprey]

torch god lore is:

[split mortar]

I like to think its a occurrence that happens just cause like bloodmoons do

[jaunty wraith]

This also implies that if it exists in calamity, then there was an epidemic of spamming tourches

[split mortar]

Whaur

Blood moons occur with or without bodies to reanimate

They just happen

[jaunty wraith]

I mean the touch god

It only spawns when you spam torches

[split mortar]

Yeah
And?

[jaunty wraith]

So how can it spawn naturally?

[split mortar]

Forest fires

[jaunty wraith]

Okay that makes sense

[eager bluff]

no

it only happens underground or lower and unless you're in a secret seed there arent any trees there

[split mortar]

Forests in hell

[eager bluff]

would be kinda counterintuitive for forests in hell to not have adapted to the fact that they're in hell

[split mortar]

Fire resistant not equal fire immune

They are likely just harder ti burn

Not impossible to burn

-# they can be used for making torches iirc

[eager bluff]

i mean. using gel. a flammable material

[split mortar]

…
I forgot that

I just woke up

[meager acorn]

Why does becoming the emissary of Providence make you so powerful?

[eager bluff]

huh

do you mean the guardians

[meager acorn]

When you equip the Profaned Soul Crystal, it makes you super op

Even though Providence herself is like aight

[eager bluff]

dedicated content = not canon

[meager acorn]

Damn

It is really cool though

[split mortar]

Nothing using shadowspec is canon

-# demonshade armour as it is right now isnt either but will eventually be made post scal

[stark basalt]

Waiting until i can say "i recomend this weapon post scal"

[hoary berry]

it took me so long to register that you aren't Tsuki

[split mortar]

I thought they were tsuki for a bit aswell

[meager acorn]

Who dat

[split mortar]

Another user often in lore chat who has a grey default pfp

[pulsar ocean]

shouldnt stuff out of solar fragments be the best in the game

absolutely decimating everyone

if its primordial light

[split mortar]

Daytime eol doesnt and theyre using PL

Its vastly strong yeah but its not using enough to be above the other fragments

Xeroc has the quality of primordial light and the quantity of the sun

[quartz canopy]

ok so im re-reading the boss lore items and the mechanical trio says " I dismissed them from duty, and yet they linger here still. Scouring the land for evidence of the divine. Unfortunately for you that puts you in their crosshairs." does this imply that the player character is a god is some for or another?

[long bloom]

no, it just means you're ridiculously strong

[mighty zenith]

youve also most likely killed a god by that point

also the dead remains of gods in the hive mind/perforators

[long bloom]

that part could definitely be worded better

[quartz canopy]

ah alright thought i had something there :/

[mighty zenith]

yeahh the implication would sooner be "you're a god" rather than "you're really strong"

[split mortar]

The terrarians lore is explicitly left blank so you can headcanon whatever you want

The only canon thing of the terrarian is they suck ass at naming

[quartz canopy]

what do you mean by that xd

[split mortar]

What part
The terrarians lore or the sucks at naming part

[quartz canopy]

sucks at namimg

[split mortar]

Naming part is cause draedon calls us out for naming the normal mechs (skeletron prime especially) and miracle matter (its science not miracles)

[long bloom]

the terrarian's names for things they create or encounter suck

like "the destroyer"

that's not its actual name

we call it that

[quartz canopy]

lol

[split mortar]

Shout out to exo blade when its a miracle matter item not a exo weapon

This palladium is totally hellstone

[onyx stirrup]

retinazer and spazmatism are actually great names the terrarian locked in one (1) time

[quartz canopy]

also on checking up with the lore doc the boss rush dialogue says the player is mortal (although i dont know how cannon the boss rush dialogue is tho since i know they plan on changing it)

[onyx stirrup]

wasnt it already changed

[quartz canopy]

idk

[split mortar]

Boss rush is lore accurate its like the only boss dialogue thats been changed for new lore rn

[quartz canopy]

ah so the player is explicitly mortal then

[split mortar]

9/10 times the terrarian will be a mortal in headcanon tho so its prob safest option to have done

[split mortar]

ig so

[minor moon]

so do we kill yharim using nothing then? considering shadowspec doesnt exist

[split mortar]

shadowspec will be moved to post yharim

[minor moon]

alright

[random mulch]

doing my own take on (partially) land dwelling desert scourge cause it looks fun so here's some very professional notes

[limpid saddle]

thats pretty cool

[pulsar ocean]

The terrarian is a 500kg tungsten cube

[pulsar ocean]

I wonder if all the shadowspec shit especially the weapons will be goozma'd like locked behind beating the final boss

[split mortar]

It will prob just require a post yharim crafting item

[minor moon]

"Tyrant's Soul"

[random mulch]

lil bit of experimenntation on the same body plan

[real silo]

Mole scourge

[supple wedge]

If the Terrarian is mortal, do they possess the ability to timeline jump if they die or do they just kill everything on the first try?

[random mulch]

latter

[real silo]

latter unless your terrarian has something that can do that

[split mortar]

The terrarians lore is up to you

[real silo]

Up to

[supple wedge]

The Terrarian might as well be a god that can hide their divinity from others, cause that’s the only thing that would logically explain why they are able to kill gods/godlike beings

[frail knot]

Come to think of it, Yharim and the Terrarian are pretty similar based on current lore

[young socket]

no what

people can just be strong

[frail knot]

They’re both ordinary mortals who managed to achieve great power by some cosmic miracle

[dusk laurel]

gods arent all powerful beings in calamity

[untold oracle]

Gods in calamity ≠ omnipotent and such
"Gods" are just a name for beings that have absorbed an auric soul and tend to have a domain of sorts

[dusk laurel]

theyre closer to gods in mythology

[untold oracle]

Not even that really

They arent necessarily even divine at all
They are just strong people

[supple wedge]

That’s… kinda disappointing

[untold oracle]

The term 'god' really tends to fuck things up here though lmao

[untold oracle]

For example providence and her guardians were ordinary humans pre-ascension

Literally

Basic ass ppl

[split mortar]

Otonilou is the only example of one with stuff that others dont (endless spark)

[frail knot]

I think Yharim is perhaps grooming the Terrarian to be the next godseeker, considering he celebrates when we kill Providence

[split mortar]

👍 kinda yeah

[untold oracle]

No shit

[real silo]

You're shit

Pea

[untold oracle]

Yharim wants you to take the mantle of Godseeker and finish the crusade (kill xeroc most likely)

[untold oracle]

RUDE

IM NOT PEA AHHHHH

[split mortar]

Said by pea

[dusk laurel]

okay pea

[real silo]

says the one named pea

[untold oracle]

WHERE PEA

[frail knot]

Funny how we won’t be able to do that

[supple wedge]

Maybe the Terrarian just plays along to gain Yharim’s trust just so they can backstab him

[untold oracle]

LÉA

NOT PEA

[dusk laurel]

again,

[frail knot]

counterpoint:

[split mortar]

The terrarians lore is up to you

[untold oracle]

:terrariansloreisuptoyou:

[dusk laurel]

[frail knot]

Péa

[untold oracle]

NOT YOU TOO

lea is the canon terrarian

It was revealed

[supple wedge]

Hmmmmmmm

Source?

[split mortar]

@manic coral

[dusk laurel]

i was gonna ping reb but okay

[split mortar]

Ping all devs

[frail knot]

supreme ceilamitas has awoken

[untold oracle]

Canon terrarian

[dusk laurel]

beast

one day this thing will fall into the depths of the inferno

[mighty zenith]

canon pearrarian

[real silo]

peashooter

[supple wedge]

Royal Pear

[dusk laurel]

wait hold on why are one of the blush marks on the ear instead of the cheek 😭

[tall delta]

the terrorian

[untold oracle]

What ear

[untold oracle]

SHUT

I cant remove it… :(

[supple wedge]

[hoary berry]

pea

[mighty zenith]

suffer

[young socket]

left

[untold oracle]

Thats not an ear

[tall delta]

no thats not the only canon thing about terrarian

get your lore right bruh...

[split mortar]

Yeah scal thinks we are bad but like
She can just be wrong

[pliant ruin]

guys the terrarian kills gods so they must be glupshittoversal

[young socket]

no not that

[pliant ruin]

look inside

slime god

pre hardmode/early hardmode boss

[mighty zenith]

clearly slime god is just a FAKE god

[untold oracle]

Terrarian is clearly evil and worse than yharim
I mean look at the amount of bosses you kill

[young socket]

theres auric rejection which means theyre not attuned

[real silo]

You're a fake aureus fan

[mighty zenith]

you're pea

[frail knot]

If Yharim wants us to become the new godseeker it’s pretty hilarious because immediately after claiming the title our first two challenges are Xeroc and Noxus, neither of which we will be able to kill because of how strong they are

[supple wedge]

Isn’t Slimegod just the leader of all slimes?

[pliant ruin]

we'll kill noxus

[untold oracle]

NO

[pliant ruin]

no

slime god is a slime god

its a god, that has domain over slime

[young socket]

we will kill noxus and noxus isnt a god

[pliant ruin]

as the Name Implies

[young socket]

[pliant ruin]

also yeah noxus isn't a god

place your bets everyone what will lore chat talk about today

[untold oracle]

Slime god nodiffs noxus because slime god is a god and noxus isnt

[tall delta]

theres also we never being able to reach xerocs power, we reaching yharim levels of strenght in less than 10 years

[pliant ruin]

a. yharim morality discussion
b. terrarian powerscaling discussion
c. brainrot

place your bets

[tall delta]

theres probably more but zzzz

[real silo]

I raise you entropic god noxus

[supple wedge]

Question is did the bosses do something to deserve it?

[untold oracle]

All above

[pliant ruin]

most of them did yeah

[frail knot]

Goozma was supposed to be what happened if EVERY slime coalesced together in the whole universe, but it’s not canon anymore

[mighty zenith]

D. terrarian morality discussion apparently

[pliant ruin]

oh true that one too

clearly the fact you fight enemies in the game means youre evil

guys mario from mario bros is evil because he uhhh fights goombas and koopas

[mighty zenith]

this game is actually undertale didnt you know

[pliant ruin]

sonic is evil he fights badniks

[frail knot]

I spent hours of my life stomping

[pliant ruin]

stomping uhh.... koopas...

[untold oracle]

Most bosses are just beasts that probably attacked or ambushed first and then there’s fucked up ppl like provi and dog
However for example aquatic scourge is innocent

[split mortar]

Chat is providence the profaned goddess a deity

[pliant ruin]

aquatic scourge is just a guy hes just #chilling

[real silo]

Are you the author of maria, the man vs mario, the idea

mario not maria

[untold oracle]

He crushes turtles

Isnt that fucking cool

[frail knot]

Perchance

[real silo]

Perchance

[pliant ruin]

stompy a turty

[real silo]

stompyninh you

[untold oracle]

I think mario hates turtles

[split mortar]

Perchance

[frail knot]

I spent hours of my life attacking uhh… green slimes

[supple wedge]

I mean killing Aquatic Scourge isn’t mandatory for progression hence why Terrarian could spare them

[untold oracle]

Perchance.

[real silo]

merk chance

[dusk laurel]

i want to spare a cnidrion and get a cool ass horse

[split mortar]

How moralous is killing lunatic cultist

[dusk laurel]

grey

[mighty zenith]

[dusk laurel]

like tsuki

grey user

[mighty zenith]

what the fguck....

[real silo]

gay like tsuki

@young socket cmere

[supple wedge]

[pliant ruin]

idk probably good

we odn't know jackshit about him but hes like uhh crazy and worked with yharim and uhhhh owns evil hell prison

so yeah probably good

[young socket]

i like women

[pliant ruin]

me too

[supple wedge]

https://tenor.com/view/calamity-supreme-calamitas-supreme-calamitas-terraria-gif-2469299775447303339

[pliant ruin]

i love my wife

[untold oracle]

WWWOW

[mighty zenith]

gaaayyyyyy

[untold oracle]

HAHAHAH

[supple wedge]

[untold oracle]

Ip grabber

[dusk laurel]

tsucchini the grey princess

[split mortar]

And also holds back the apocalypse (or thought so)

[real silo]

Smame

[pliant ruin]

i mean to be fair moon lord was weakened as fuck

even if we didn't kill it

i think someone else would have

[dusk laurel]

(xeroc)

trauma sesh

[pliant ruin]

not even xeroc would be needed tbf

like yharon might just pull up and revenge kill the guy

he could

[dusk laurel]

true yeah

[mighty zenith]

it would definitely do some damage first

[supple wedge]

Yharim could’ve used a toothpick

[real silo]

yhaiim would one punch the guy

[pliant ruin]

it would yeah but also providence is a thing and shes probably not only stronger than weakened ml but also has been around for far longer

[real silo]

Cave his eyes in like whackamole

[pliant ruin]

so i think in the grand scheme of things

ml coming back ain't allat

in his current state anyways if it was full power we'd be cooked until xeroc showed up

[split mortar]

Yeah full power moonlord is just folding people like lawn chairs

[real silo]

Ok but who would be the first to respond to him

[young socket]

xeroc would be to be busy having flashbacks

[split mortar]

Lunatic cultist can nearly beat ml

[real silo]

Like he comes back

[pliant ruin]

assuming the terrarian wasn't there

[split mortar]

Weakened ml

[pliant ruin]

maybe DoG?

he can teleport

[real silo]

Maybe

[pliant ruin]

should be able to get there pretty fast

[split mortar]

Providence kills ml in embers no? Prob her among the first

[supple wedge]

Is DoG actually hella strong or just overconfident as fuck?

[real silo]

Embers isn't canon

[pliant ruin]

both

[real silo]

Smellon

[pliant ruin]

dog is both

[split mortar]

Both

[split mortar]

Uses canon info

[pliant ruin]

not only is it not canon but i don't really see how its relevant tbh

Like yeah

provi kills ml in embers because its

the provi centered story

[real silo]

yea

[pliant ruin]

though you could argue she can also teleport so she might be able to get there fairly fast too? but also provi's teleportation seems wacky and we don't rly know how it works

while DoG's is pretty straightforward

make funni portal

[split mortar]

Dog just eats the distance between it and the target shrimple

[real silo]

Who would know about him first

That je brokem out

[dusk laurel]

yhragon

[real silo]

yhargon

[split mortar]

I think a lot of people would find out quickly
Moonlord isnt exactly
Stealthy

[pliant ruin]

my money is on draedon

[split mortar]

Fair

[pliant ruin]

draedon has eyes everywhere

[split mortar]

Draedon has eyes on the moon

[pliant ruin]

i think the first one to take action would be yharon though

because yeah bro has a vendetta

[supple wedge]

Draedon is everywhere and nowhere at the same time

[pliant ruin]

whether he'd be able to get there before someone else steals the kill idk

[real silo]

Moob lord grabs yharon like that one art

bird captured

[frail knot]

what one art

Do enlighten me

[pliant ruin]

i'm pretty sure resprited yharon is like almost as big as ml

[split mortar]

Lmao

Wait yeah pretty sure?

[untold oracle]

Infernum but every boss is killstealed by dog

[real silo]

Someone drew yharon being grabbed and squished by ml

I don't remember who

[mighty zenith]

hold dragon like hammed burger

[pliant ruin]

guys clearly we're all wrong

[real silo]

I'm never wrong

[pliant ruin]

gorthus will be the one to defeat ml

[real silo]

Except when I am

[split mortar]

Hold deus like hammed burger

[pliant ruin]

he'll use his gorthus strike

[split mortar]

Nah itd be yhorm

[real silo]

Camarune will beat moon lord first

[untold oracle]

Yeah

Yhorm solos

[mighty zenith]

gorthus sounds like ||gerson||

[dusk laurel]

camerun

[mighty zenith]

dont press if you HATE deltaune

[real silo]

yhorm sucks we hate yhorm

[pliant ruin]

u dont have to spoil gerson ...............................

hes in UNDERTALE u DUMMY

[split mortar]

Gerson is also a undertale guy

[mighty zenith]

whos gerson

[split mortar]

And also mentioned in 1 and 2

[pliant ruin]

you

the gerson is you

:melongun:

[mighty zenith]

thats true

[dusk laurel]

[split mortar]

Fear

[mighty zenith]

we're both ourtles...

[supple wedge]

Youre all wrong, the Devourer of Cods will kill ml

[dusk laurel]

devourer of mold

[split mortar]

Ok kris

[pliant ruin]

devourer of mold would be a kickass enemy ngl

like imagine devourer of gods but hes like tiny and eats mold

[real silo]

mold eater

[pliant ruin]

he has 1 health

[supple wedge]

Kris eats moss

[split mortar]

Same thing

[mighty zenith]

thats u

[pliant ruin]

not the same...

moss is a plant mold is a fungus

smh

[split mortar]

Same thing

[supple wedge]

Smh my head

[pliant ruin]

nuh uh!!!

fungi r closer to being animals than plants

smh

kinda crazy to think abt tbh

[split mortar]

De funguses you mold

[supple wedge]

Fungi are fungi

[pliant ruin]

mushrooms are closer to u than they are to grass

[real silo]

You're a fungi

[mighty zenith]

the fungus is you

[split mortar]

Thanks

[real silo]

Not you

[frail knot]

Fungi are as different from plants and animals as plants and animals are different from each other

[real silo]

Chese

[pliant ruin]

yes

but fungi r closer to animals than plants

[dusk laurel]

i think yharon realistically could over power ml physically

[young socket]

this is a reference to melon gun needing to touch grass

[pliant ruin]

yeah he definitely could

probably without much difficulty tbh

[supple wedge]

Prime Yharim?

[real silo]

Tsuki you need to touch glass

[pliant ruin]

weakened ml ain't allat when you compare him to all the post ml bosses

[dusk laurel]

yharim is already in his prime

[pliant ruin]

albeit to the average joe hes

very much allat

also yeah yharim is in his prime rn

has more fighting experience than ever due to the near 100 years of war

has auric armor reinforced with exotechnology

and is attuned to yharon

[split mortar]

Physical prime
130ish years of growing

[pliant ruin]

old man got hanmds

[supple wedge]

Then why the fuck is his lazy ass just sitting on the Aerie or whatever it’s called and not doing what he can do best???

[young socket]

hes training

[pliant ruin]

because what can he do

the only gods left are the ones he can't kill for a reason or another

and he has barely any years of life left

he knows he's probably not gonna be able to complete the crusade

which is why he tries to manipulate you, the first person who's been able to show as much promise as himself in years, to try being his sucessor

[supple wedge]

Can’t he just ask Draedon to make him some life expectancy extending juice or something?

[pliant ruin]

no

[split mortar]

He hates draedon

And
Like
Can draedon stop age

[pliant ruin]

yeah but he's willing to ask draedon for help if he really needs to

as seen with the eox upgrades

but

no draedon cant make people immortal

[dusk laurel]

lets see we got
god who has evaded the yharmy for nearly a century
goddess who has evaded the yharmy for nearly a century and is also one of the strongest gods
goddess who is effectively immortal due to being an elemental and is also one of the strongest gods
the strongest god and being ever
etc

[pliant ruin]

if he could you'd think he'd have done so, no? 😭

[pliant ruin]

yharim pulling up to xeroc only to get hit with divine death sunlight beam

(hes cooked, literally)

[supple wedge]

Maybe he was purposefully hiding it from Yharim because he doesn’t truly trust him

[young socket]

i mean he cant but cant he get still life lengthen by doing the same principle as permafrosts ice magic

[real silo]

Fried yharm

[pliant ruin]

Draedon has no reason to trust or distrust anybody

And like

That'd be pretty stupid narratively

[young socket]

i wonder like

[pliant ruin]

"Yeah draedon can just make t hings immortal which has huge narrative implications but uhhh we didnt tell you at any point even though it completely breaks several parts of the story becasue uhh idk lol"

[young socket]

what compelled draedon to give yharim upgrades

[split mortar]

To science yharim (iirc the guy didnt get to do it often)

[young socket]

there mustve been some sort of exchange or else hed literally have no reason to

[pliant ruin]

i think it might've been to get an opportunity to study auric up close

[young socket]

no he didnt get to science yharon and still probably hasnt

[pliant ruin]

draedon can't really do so most of the time

[young socket]

yharims just a guy that got strong which like

theres other people he can do that to

[mighty zenith]

yea i think auric was the best thing yharim couldve offered

[young socket]

this isprobably true tho

[supple wedge]

How does the Terrarian’s Auric Armor work compared to Yharim’s which is attuned to Yharon?

[dusk laurel]

ours is mock attuned

[split mortar]

Terrarians cant reject while yharims can

[dusk laurel]

so it cant reject anything

[mighty zenith]

the terrarian neutralizes auric's rejection through yharon's soul fragments

[young socket]

yharims has auric rejection

[dusk laurel]

also we dont have exotech added on

[mighty zenith]

it basically tricks auric into assuming everything it touches is attuned because of the fragments

[young socket]

the vague nebulous exo tech buffs...

[dusk laurel]

+1 healing

[young socket]

okay but actually like

[split mortar]

It gives yharim +1. To height

[young socket]

is there anything thats stopping him from doing that

[mighty zenith]

the exo upgrades were high heels

[young socket]

true?!

[split mortar]

Draedon cant magic and yharim is a melee while perma is the best mage literally ever other then xeroc

[young socket]

i said the same principle

💥

not literally doing magic

[split mortar]

I doubt its as easily controllable as it is with magic

Since its well
Half freezing yourself iirc

[pliant ruin]

Yeah permafrost is half freezing himself and hes only able to do so after like

several years of studying magic

[frail knot]

I think if Xeroc was ever even remotely scared of Yharim we would be deprived of our jungle tyrant in a millisecond, which means that Xeroc is so powerful that to him, the man who is our “final boss” is not even an ant on Xeroc’s shoe, pretty terrifying that we’re going to fight him.

[pliant ruin]

And i also feel like it's probably a technique he developed himself so yharim would probably need personal training from perma to do it

[young socket]

this guy can make nanobots that not only self replicate but literally mimick fucking evolution

[pliant ruin]

jungle tyrant

😨

mfw..

but yeah xeroc is crazy strong but hes not really gonna fight us to death hes just gonna be like

"ayo ur cool do u wanna like fight"

and we'll be like

"oh ok sure"

[frail knot]

like nameless in wotg kinda?

[split mortar]

Cei has said she thinks it takes 40 perfectly organised yharims to beat xeroc (not canon just a writers headcanon but should give a view of how strong the gap is)

[supple wedge]

A test of sorts

[frail knot]

I am aware nameless is based on pre rewrite Xeroc where he was an elder god

[split mortar]

Nameless isnt even based on that anymore iirc

[pliant ruin]

he is still based on it

but its a separate thing

with its own lore

(no, nameless's lore is not Literally Just Old Lore Xeroc)

(alot of people seem to go under that assumption)

[random mulch]

messing around with colors

[supple wedge]

Isn’t the Boss Rush some sort of test by Xeroc?

[pliant ruin]

DS design?

[random mulch]

ye

[pliant ruin]

incheresting

I feel like the color of the back is a bit odd but other than that i dig it

[split mortar]

Yeah
The thing in the background is just 1 spell sigil

[frail knot]

what about centimeterexercising

[pliant ruin]

(it kinda looks like exposed muscle? Idk if that's intentional but to me it kinda clashes with the rest of the palette

big man has big jaws

[random mulch]

yeah i'm still kinda messing around with the colors

[young socket]

guys i have a new and totally cool theory

what if

[frail knot]

Also is Yharim even gonna give a lore item when we kill him? Before he was the one speaking to us through them but if he’s dead he can’t really do that

[young socket]

the terrarian is actually evil!!!

[random mulch]

temporary walls..

[pliant ruin]

what if the terrarian is a temporary wall

[random mulch]

it's odd but if it results in a fun fight i wont really mind

[supple wedge]

Maybe his soul will remain intact or something like that

And accompany us

Kinda like Navi from OOT

[pliant ruin]

no hes gonna die

[supple wedge]

Then i dunno

[split mortar]

I dont want john super racism evil to accompany me

[pliant ruin]

john super racism evil is no match for jane super racism evil (me)

there can only be one

[untold oracle]

It will clearly be xeroc speaking then

[frail knot]

Maybe it will be Noxus or Xeroc that’s speaking through Yharim’s lore item. It would obviously have a noticably different tone

[frail knot]

Exactly what I was about to type as you can see

[pliant ruin]

I mean some stuff dosen't have lore items either

so i wouldn't be surprised

[supple wedge]

I mean we could always threaten to shatter the soul some way or another

[pliant ruin]

if yharim just didn't have one lul

[pliant ruin]

why

[untold oracle]

I mean a good amount of lore items already have yharim lore

[pliant ruin]

what purpose does having yharim's soul follow you around serve

and also like

How

how does he Do That

[cosmic zenith]

No
Yharim, Noxus and Xeroc won't have those lore items

[pliant ruin]

yeah i figured

[untold oracle]

Just let him die 😭

[frail knot]

Ok

[supple wedge]

Nah he deserves eternal torture

[cosmic zenith]

Those won't even be lore items after their rework anyways

[pliant ruin]

le whispers

[untold oracle]

Yharim prime soul

[pliant ruin]

god of sacrifices prime soul...........

[random mulch]

stone phone confirmed?

[pliant ruin]

defeat the flesh gorilla and awaken him

[split mortar]

The yhrock

[frail knot]

I thought we said Yharim was an ordinary mortal like us? How can his soul stick around?

[mighty zenith]

if fnaf taught me anything, do not give psychopathic murderers eternal punishment because theyre gonna get out of it somehow

[untold oracle]

That would actually be a cool concept lol

[snow mountain]

i seriously can't see lunatic cultist as a dragon worshipper i just can't

[mighty zenith]

god of sacrifices dream warrior after killing ravager

[pliant ruin]

it can't

[untold oracle]

Did he?

[mighty zenith]

🤩

[untold oracle]

Maaan why is fnaf lore still dragging on

[frail knot]

You know why

[snow mountain]

cott awthon

[mighty zenith]

honestly im not even sure

[pliant ruin]

because scott has to milk the cow bear dry

moeny. money. moe

[untold oracle]

Yes

[mighty zenith]

technically yes because of dead by daylight??

[snow mountain]

faber milk

[supple wedge]

How canon is dbd tho?

[pliant ruin]

NEED more convoluted incomprehensible plotlines that require u to buy 500 books to understand

[untold oracle]

Imo the series would have been perfect lore wise if it ended after 3
Of course the series probably wouldnt be as popular without the later games so eh

[mighty zenith]

about as canon as everything else in this fucking franchise

[mighty zenith]

i think fnaf 4 really fumbled by making everything so confusing

the bite of 83 especially

[untold oracle]

EXACTLY

[mighty zenith]

WHY

[pliant ruin]

that way not only will the theorists which are the only people who actually care about the game still be engaged but it alsao incentivizes them to buy miscellaneous products to look for lore

[mighty zenith]

WHY DID YOU CHANGE THE FUCKING DATE

SCOTT

[frail knot]

Connection terminated. I’m sorry to [not finishing the copypasta to avoid being banned]

[pliant ruin]

guys breaking news fnaf is not a good franchise

crazy right

[untold oracle]

Fnaf 4 opened like 80 cans of worms on an already finished lore and it STILL isnt fully figured out i think

[supple wedge]

Fnaf lore will keep us busy till the end of time

[pliant ruin]

it started out as a passion project but the moment scott realized it was giving him a shit ton of money and turned it into a cashcow it lost all of its merit

[frail knot]

I think it was a good ending point when Scott “retired” only for him to then continue writing lore for 18 kajillion games

[mighty zenith]

Fnaf 4 couldve just neatly tied up loose ends while ending on a scarier note than fnaf 3 but no

lets toss in some incomprehensible bullshit to make you question things people thought were already figured out

[pliant ruin]

deltarune deadass a better horror game than fnaf

[frail knot]

I don’t consider security breach or anything after it canon

[untold oracle]

We need 251 more plotlines

[pliant ruin]

🥀 🫗

[cosmic zenith]

His soul wouldn't stick around

[mighty zenith]

YOUR LONG

[untold oracle]

And lea will be in every single one of them

[pliant ruin]

no but like unironically

[random mulch]

when the player picks up the seeing stone thing

[untold oracle]

Ultrakill violence layer is better horror than fnaf imo..

[snow mountain]

the twins are VTOLs

[frail knot]

I got flash banged

[pliant ruin]

||the entire secret zelda minigame thats like an allegory for the geno and snowgrave runs is scarier than anything on fnaf||

💔

[mighty zenith]

true

[random mulch]

so is the stone phone actually happening or is it still in the maybe zone

[pliant ruin]

i hope it happens

it'd be cool

[gritty kraken]

Is draedon the mimic

[snow mountain]

exposition device

[mighty zenith]

if whatsapp was in calamity mod 😂 😂 😂

[frail knot]

No, but he made the mimic

[untold oracle]

WHAT IS STONE PHONE

WHO IS GETTING STONES

STONED

[snow mountain]

me

[random mulch]

the stone phone

[split mortar]

Yhrock

[untold oracle]

It was difficult to put the exo mechs together

[supple wedge]

You when you look into Medusa’s eyes