lore-discussion

[green field]

or did like

[wispy night]

Spongebob made doodlebob

[green field]

spongebob draw doodlebob and doodlebob took the pencil

[wispy night]

The pencil can erase spongebob

Yes thats literally what happened

[warm gull]

i wonder what vsbw says about spongebob

[wispy night]

Doodlebob erases spongebobs face with the pencil

[green field]

on some fire force shit

[wispy night]

Yall would drink a genderchange potion if you could right

Like thats normal

[green field]

reminded me how shinra kinda created death and then death took his powers away

peak calamity lore

[warm gull]

yep spongebob scales to multi solar system level

spongebob beats all of calamity in one hit

bro could just punch the ground and explode the whole planet

his speed is massively FTL

galaxy level durability

[green field]

what are these unemployed terms

"ftl"

💔

[split mortar]

Faster then light

[warm gull]

how do you not know what ftl means

thats like

the most basic scifi ever

[green field]

why would i know what ftl means

?

[split mortar]

Its a commonly used sci fi word

[green field]

yeah faster than light is

sure

but "FTL"

thats some powerscale bs

[warm gull]

also bro I literally just looked up spongebob powerscaling and these terms came up

don't blame me

ftl is not powerscaling though no

its just used in scifi

[split mortar]

Or really anything that goes ftl

[warm gull]

I don't see it used much outside of scifi UNLESS its talking about powerscaling

like for example people might say luffy is ftl or something in powerscaling

but i don't think it would say that in the manga or show

[split mortar]

Fair

[wheat walrus]

i get if we were talking abt terms like "ap", "hax" but ftl is just common 💔

[green field]

faster than light

is common

[wheat walrus]

if you think that's just powerscaling, it's you

[green field]

"ftl" ive not seen it a lot

[wheat walrus]

"ftl" is an abbreviation for that

ffs

[green field]

yes

[warm gull]

yeah ftl is not a powerscaling term

[green field]

and i dont see it a lot

the abbrreviation

ffs

[wheat walrus]

symgau 🍈🔫

[split mortar]

Bruh

[warm gull]

@split mortar come deal with this disrespect

oh nvm

you're here

[wheat walrus]

im gonna meme your name til the end of time

[split mortar]

🐌

[split mortar]

Why

[wheat walrus]

cause why not

i can

[warm gull]

melongun nugnolem

[split mortar]

Vencord doesnt work here

No embeds

[warm gull]

it gets the message across well enough

you know what i was saying

[trim peak]

Draedonic Onslaught

[glossy wolf]

Who the freak is Noxus?

[dusk laurel]

yharon wings

[dusk laurel]

being in the distortion

it controls a hivemind over much of the life there

created ceaseless void, a portal to the distortion

dog's boss

[manic coral]

you know i dont actually know what ultramage permafrost's fight looks like in game still

[wheat walrus]

wait a sec is it actually real

[mighty zenith]

yes

[wheat walrus]

permafrost fight

holy moly

[mighty zenith]

its just, reskinned scal mostly

[wheat walrus]

I assume it's not something about progression

oooh wait

gfb

[manic coral]

i mena yeah duh but

[wheat walrus]

to replace the other thing, right

[manic coral]

i haven't seen how the repalcements all actually look

[mighty zenith]

i like how the hellblasts are literally just blue

[manic coral]

also die to some of the attacks to see their names

they're really funny

[mighty zenith]

also spawning pyrogen instead of seekers(?) is really funny

[manic coral]

and like

it has an actual logical reason too

[limpid saddle]

"If it's blue, it's cold" - Issac Newton

[manic coral]

if you look at the dialogue

[young socket]

yea replaces seekers

[manic coral]

whejn i go back and write more GFB stuff this is the type of humor i want it to have

[wheat walrus]

anyways this so much better than supreme alchemist 🙏

[manic coral]

not utterly illogical

but following a really stupid logic

for example

[wheat walrus]

regardless of the backstory of alchemist and stuff, it just makes so much more sense

[manic coral]

"permafrsot trained calamitas"

[limpid saddle]

I would kill for Cal character team-up fights

[manic coral]

"so he must be stronger than calamitas"

[limpid saddle]

Fighting Yharon & Yharim, Calamitas & Permafrost, there's so much potential

[mighty zenith]

also him just dropping a fucking noelle quote

[manic coral]

incorrect

[mighty zenith]

ok ALMOST

[manic coral]

that's a spell she doesn't know

[mighty zenith]

he does know the spell

[manic coral]

permafrost casta a spell he does know

[mighty zenith]

snowgen

🤩

[manic coral]

but yes i wrote all of the dialogue for that in like

10 minutes

and it was gold my first try

[wheat walrus]

flames

[mighty zenith]

incroyable

[wheat walrus]

or frost actually

[limpid saddle]

Maybe I should play GFB Calamity if it's this peak

[split mortar]

I headcanon thats what perma could do if they had the raw power of scal

[limpid saddle]

I think if there was a Permafrost fight he'd probably tier somewhere around Lunatic Cultist

I know his whole thing is he's not incredibly powerful, but given his knowledge & level of technical skill I think he would stand at that level

[split mortar]

I doubt he would imo
Perma isnt a fighter so i doubt the guy is crazy good at fighting

[split mortar]

Or atleast lacking comparatively

[warm gull]

not really well known, but he created dog, is the most powerful known being in the distortion and uses dog to devour souls remotely

basically, he's an evil being from hell

if you replace hell with distortion

[hoary cape]

He is one of the big bosses in distortion

Signus is on the same level in the hierarchy lol

[split mortar]

It was said in a later statement signus has the ability to become an entity like noxus but rn isnt quite at the same level iirc

Said by stipulate i think

So they prob outrank dog still

[cosmic zenith]

https://tenor.com/view/anime-elf-girl-cute-kawaii-gif-15661372748150344531

[visual kiln]

p

[cosmic zenith]

DoG is more powerful than Signus

But Signus is closer in terms of what type of being he is to Noxus

[manic coral]

hello stip

:D

[cosmic zenith]

Hello Cei :D

[warm gull]

signus is still extremely powerful though

wait

hold on

I can't remember if I

old duke

grahh

[dusk laurel]

[warm gull]

ah I suppose its probably public?

signus lorewise is like the same strength as old duke iirc

[dusk laurel]

yeah

[warm gull]

is getting moved there

[split mortar]

You know its public signus may equal old duke in progression right

[pliant ruin]

yeah its gonna be the same tier as old duke

[dusk laurel]

maybe people wont call them sentinels anymore after the progression changes

since they wont all be right after provi

[warm gull]

anyways old duke is just barely pre dog so signus will be too

[split mortar]

“Why is the envoy of the devourer post DoG?!?!?”

-# im actively dumb

-# i also need sleep

[dusk laurel]

kills you

[warm gull]

wait isn't old duke pre dog

[dusk laurel]

yes

[split mortar]

Yes im a fucking twat

[dusk laurel]

melon just has dementia

[split mortar]

[light linden]

[hoary cape]

SW when it's post dog

[mighty zenith]

they need to fucking rename him already

[split mortar]

The rename is waiting in sso iirc

[mighty zenith]

🖼️

[long bloom]

hope they still have something and not just "signus"

[warm gull]

seeg nass! I need you seeg nass!

[pliant ruin]

sigma

[long bloom]

do something cool like "signus, the unfathomable one" or smth

[warm gull]

signus, the dealmaker

[limpid saddle]

i dont know he looks very fathomable to me

[glacial rampart]

mr popo trained goku so he must be stronger than goku

[glacial rampart]

he is fathomable

[pastel bay]

"Idk about these incomprehensible horrors I can comprehend them just fine"

[glacial rampart]

yeah like

i can see him

its not like theres any incomprehensible part of him

from the outside at least

[dusk laurel]

this is true

[limpid saddle]

something like 'Signus, The Dark Broker' would probably fit better

[split mortar]

Signus the rat bastard

[cloud ibex]

Faustian rat bastard

[stuck shore]

Signus, Fantomless Assassin

[sinful adder]

Signus, Penumbral Phantom

[stuck shore]

Signus, Penumbra Phantasm

[sinful adder]

Yeah

[rotund shore]

Lmao

[sinful adder]

Deltarune tomorrow

https://tenor.com/view/deltarune-deltarune-trailer-deltarune-reveal-deltarune-chapter-3-deltarune-chapter-4-gif-14758536116127806490

This but the angel was xeroc

[pulsar ocean]

Signus the sigmus

[pulsar ocean]

In 2 tomorrows

[brazen cloak]

If Chapter 4 doesn't reveal ||Father Alvin|| as the Knight, I riot

[patent tiger]

is the crystal thing inside queen slime slime god?

[dusk laurel]

maybe

depends what happens in the future

[glacial rampart]

why not a normal name, like, i dont know, Wallace?

[long bloom]

currently yes

[glacial rampart]

4 tomorrows actually

nvm 3

or 2 depending on time zone

whatever

use your imagination

[patent tiger]

ok so slime god is made up of like, super pure gel/slime right?

also what can we take away from its beastiary entries?

also i know it's not canon but what possible explanation could there be for goozma having an auric soul

like what's the most logical possibility

[hoary cape]

Why would an eldritch being be named Wallace 😂 ?

[long bloom]

goozma isn't canon

[patent tiger]

yes i just said that and then asked what the most logical explanation is

[pliant ruin]

also i know it's not canon

calamity fans aren't beating the allegations..

there is no feasible in-universe way of goozma having an auric soul unless it was gifted fragments of the world soul much like the dragons were

effectively making it a dragon i guess..?

[spare pier]

Dangerous choice of words there, Cheese

Remember Felicia isn't canon /lh

[pliant ruin]

😭

[patent tiger]

also can anybody comment on this?

[sinful adder]

If anything could forge a new auric soul by absorbing godly essence, it would be a slime. Their powers are closest to being able to do that

[pliant ruin]

i mean ya it drops purified gel so fair to assume

[pliant ruin]

..no?

[patent tiger]

also though the paladin beastiary entry

[sinful adder]

They absorb and assimilate any kind of magic

[pliant ruin]

Yeah but

how does that relate to being able to make an auric soul

It does mean they could absorb divine essence and get the powers of the late god to some extent

which is something even seen ingame

[patent tiger]

what can we take out of slime god core's beastiary entry?

does that mean it could theoretically grow to have a lot more power if it wanted to?

[sinful adder]

They can't canonically do it. Their power is just closest to being theoretically able to do it.

[pliant ruin]

I still don't really see how that's the closest though but eh

It's just power absorption

[patent tiger]

this is the beastiary entry for reference:
"Despite being a Gluttonous slime, the Slime God forbids itself from growing out of control to maintain the balance of the world. It was still pursued during the Crusade, but it managed to survive through countless strategic retreats. The duty it upholds and the methods it employs are the reason the Onyx Kinsmen worship such a puny deity."

the part i'm mostly looking at is "the Slime God forbids itself from growing out of control to maintain the balance of the world"

[sinful adder]

That is correct

[patent tiger]

so if it wanted to it could just start consuming lots of gel or something and become much stronger?

[long bloom]

yeah

[patent tiger]

slime god villain arc addon time

[long bloom]

it's called hunt of the old gods

[hoary cape]

Slime god doesn't seem like a villain

[patent tiger]

yeah my bad slime god is actually super chill

[hoary cape]

What is slime gods name I wonder

[patent tiger]

no? goozma is seemingly completely unrelated to slime god

[glacial rampart]

i dont know, wallace?

[long bloom]

goozma is what sg would turn into if they absorbed every slime

[hoary cape]

Goozma is slime god if it ascended to extreme power lol

[patent tiger]

how do we know this

[long bloom]

old lore

[patent tiger]

old lore no canon

[hoary cape]

I mean goozma is from old lore

[long bloom]

it is in the fuckin addon i just said

[patent tiger]

huh?

like it's in hotog?

[long bloom]

oh my god

yes

it adds goozma

that's like its whole thing

[patent tiger]

well god i'm stupid

[patent tiger]

it is?

[long bloom]

yeah

[hoary cape]

Yes just not the more recent old lore

[long bloom]

it was replaced with noxus

and then noxus was also rewritten

so it's like triple removed from current cal

[hoary cape]

Noxus wasn't rewritten yet it's lore was just removed

[patent tiger]

interesting

[hoary cape]

We know basically nothing about now

[long bloom]

maybe you don't

[patent tiger]

well this new knowledge completely ruins the addon i had already started making

and now am sad

[hoary cape]

I mean add-ons don't have to work with the lore

[patent tiger]

yeah but the existence of goozma kind of ruins it because it's already been done

[long bloom]

make your own goozma

nobody's stopping you

[hoary cape]

Dang you and your Patreon information

[patent tiger]

funny part is i was gonna make it require to have hotog and make slime god kidnap goozma as its new minion

[long bloom]

the hotog design is kinda out there so you can do whatever

i still can't believe this is pixel art tbh

[real silo]

It's pixel art + code

[barren sonnet]

Ibanplay design 🔥

[patent tiger]

would you guys says goozma is more like its own entity or slime god, kinda like how nameless deity is separate from xeroc

[hoary cape]

Every time one of you types hotog my brain is like hotdog

[long bloom]

same

[real silo]

It's separate from slime god iirc

You only use the slime god summon for it

[patent tiger]

ok then my mod idea isn't ruined yay

[real silo]

But it's not actually slime god

[long bloom]

elaborate

[patent tiger]

well i mean it was meant to be slime god if it absorbed every slime

[real silo]

true ig

Slime god has a god soul goozma has an auric soul

Very different things

[patent tiger]

anyway would you guys say it's its own entity kinda like nameless or just slime god but better

[hoary cape]

Up to you

It's not canon after all you can do what you want with it

[patent tiger]

ok

[sinful adder]

Completely separate. One is canon and one isn't.

In both examples

[violet sparrow]

holy shit they've been typing hotog ive been reading hotdog for AGES

[mighty zenith]

lmao

[real silo]

hunt of the devourer of gods

hotdog

[paper spindle]

Wait fr? I just thought everyone liked hotdogs

[vague jacinth]

just a question, where is Draedon from?

[cloud ibex]

terraria

(that is, the planet the game takes place)

((he's not an alien))

[split mortar]

Some underground icy area
-# not ingame tundra iirc

I think

[vague jacinth]

k thanks

[scenic olive]

Chat is it possible that Yharim is already dead

like we come to Aerie and its just his corpse

[split mortar]

Died of age from how long the update took

[scenic olive]

Bro might not be able to come through as the final boss

[mighty zenith]

i mean he does talk to you in present tense

[scenic olive]

What if hes

Replaced by AI

[mighty zenith]

youre replaced by ai

[scenic olive]

[bold dragon]

Dw u are not an ai everybody else is an ai

[paper spindle]

That's actually scarier come to think of it

[scenic olive]

At least its not cheese

[real glen]

Yharim is still waiting at peak of dragon aerie but we can't go there

[paper spindle]

Camper

[scenic olive]

Yharim is in the Aerie

The peak of aerie

Peak requires time

[dusk laurel]

The yharmy event

[stark basalt]

what if

ai hoshino

came to terraria

and

dethroned yharim

absolute cinema

https://tenor.com/view/absolute-cinema-jane-doe-zzz-zzz-jane-doe-zenless-zone-zero-gif-1043017815908849559

[real silo]

she can't do that because she's dead

though...

This gives me an idea

[stoic gulch]

how wide is yharim compared to terrarian

[long bloom]

probably an extra ⅔ of a block

with current design

[faint totem]

I’m still in love with the idea that calamitas had an awkward pause when the player summoned her because she’s not used to powerful people being around her height.

[long bloom]

peak hc

[faint totem]

“Do you enjoy going through he-…”
“What? Something on my face?”
“…I thought you’d be taller.”
“Hey screw you, you can’t exactly talk!”
“I’m just used to powerful people being taller than me is all.”

[long bloom]

imagine hanging out with yharim, draedon, yharon and dog for a decade during your formative years and then you hear about yharim's rival and they're Like That

[faint totem]

God that’d be a massive case of whiplash

[split mortar]

And then they use melee weapons the size of houses

[long bloom]

GET PHOTOVISCERATED

[faint totem]

“We gonna fight now or what?”
“Yes, I suppose we a-what are you holding?”
“Hm? You mean my sword?”
holding an Exoblade
“That’s a sword?”

[long bloom]

it was more like a large hunk of exo prisms

[faint totem]

“…is your back okay?”
“My back snapped years ago, i got a prothstetic.”

[split mortar]

Id say im surprised theres roleplay in lore chat but like
Not really

[faint totem]

I mean, no duh

God, imagine Cal’s reaction to all the different classes.

Or the SUBCLASSES

[long bloom]

imagine getting fucked by yoyos

i'd exile myself

[faint totem]

“Do you enjoy going through he-is that a yo-yo?” metal pipe sound effect

[faint totem]

I literally was typing that before you said that

[long bloom]

lmao

[faint totem]

“Do you enjoy going through…is that a landmi-” kaboom

[long bloom]

auric landmine only run would be so funny

[faint totem]

Or just using stuff from the tavern keep.

[real silo]

Alcoholic run

[limpid saddle]

do you think Calamitas would have much of a reaction to The Flamsteed Ring or do you think she's desensitized to giant robots

[split mortar]

Probably desensitised

[real silo]

Yea

Thanatos is way bigger than anything the player can make

Ares too to an extent

[magic epoch]

nah i idisagree

behold my massive fuckass house with 0 functionality

[real silo]

Ok but that's a house not a flying mech...

[magic epoch]

you said nothing about flying mechs

???

[solar wharf]

well because it's kinda implied there

[real silo]

The convo was about flamsteed ring

A Mech that the Player can Make

And can fly

[minor moon]

Guys, who would win? Yharim (Composite) or Draedon (Prep time)

[split mortar]

Composite? As in including old lore?

[wheat walrus]

no because old lore isn't real 💔

[minor moon]

Like all of his ablities each in their prime

[wheat walrus]

well

[minor moon]

For example yharim being in his prime age but still having the wisdom of his old self

[split mortar]

Old lore is weird and yharim could be argued to be multi star level in old lore probably

[minor moon]

Not old lore

[wheat walrus]

current yharim as we'll fight him is his prime, and I assum

melon im killing you

"multi star" isn't even a tier 😭

[split mortar]

Yharim is as strong as ever they havent gotten weaker

[split mortar]

Multiple stars, idk whats hard to understand

[wheat walrus]

there's

solar system level

multi-solar system level

galaxy level

etc

also please melon why you using tiering system babble in this convo

💔

[split mortar]

L
Stars are cool

[split mortar]

Stars

[eager bluff]

anyways this depends on what the goal is

[split mortar]

But if its just yharim in prime (when we fight them) then uh
Yeah draedon wins right now no prep time

[minor moon]

A fight to death and they are both locked in

[eager bluff]

draedon wins

[magic epoch]

draedon? to the death?

lol lmao even

[eager bluff]

you dont kill draedon

[split mortar]

Draedon and dying is as hard as a elemental basically

Its a question if xeroc can kill draedon iirc

[eager bluff]

nobody kills draedon without destroying the entire planet the game takes place on

[minor moon]

Yes with no prep time, no with prep time

[long bloom]

draedon is basically the internet

endless backups everywhere

[eager bluff]

draedon self replicates to the point where killing him is a matter of futility

[split mortar]

Xeroc when draedon is simultaneously going to the core of the planet and to the local next planet system

[magic epoch]

iwthink draedon is the closest thing to an irl "God"

[split mortar]

Draedon imo is closer to a science elemental even if they arent

[eager bluff]

yharim can certainly try to kill draedon but draedon isnt the one thatll kill him its him dying of old age that will kill him

[real silo]

Computer elemental

[magic epoch]

draedon ascending to space for a decade

[minor moon]

Only similar thing god and draedon has is intelligence, draedon is nigh-omniscient while god is omniscient, i think draedon would be truly omniscient in 200-300 years

[magic epoch]

gg

[split mortar]

Eh i doubt draedon will be omniscient
Took the guy 660+ years to rival scal

[long bloom]

gods aren't omniscient

they're just people with cool powers

[snow mountain]

bro is the sun

[minor moon]

The guy before said irl god

[magic epoch]

irl gods

[long bloom]

ah

[split mortar]

Draedon isnt omnipotent either

[minor moon]

I didnt say he was

[split mortar]

You said the only thing between a God and draedon was intelligence

[minor moon]

But he migh be given enough time considering his technology

[eager bluff]

i mean yeah but he also improves exponentially

[split mortar]

Xeroc will always be above the guy

[minor moon]

Me when xeroc dies when the universe meets its heat death but draedon persists out of curiosity to research the heat death:

[split mortar]

No mass produceable material (including auric) can withstand the energy to hurt xeroc right now and xeroc will grow

[split mortar]

Why would there be a heat death
Matter can be made from nothing

[minor moon]

Aw shit, physics dont apply in cal i forgot

Silly me

😄

[split mortar]

They do just not for some specific things

[minor moon]

Xeroc would die if draedon prepped for millions of years and sneak attacked him

[split mortar]

Like the only thing draedon could pull is telefrag insta explode ultranukes and idk if thats feasible for draedon to pull off or want to

[split mortar]

Materials cant withstand the energy needed to hurt xeroc majorly

[minor moon]

What if xeroc was betrayed and put in a time chamber

[split mortar]

Auric is the strongest thing in calamity as of rn and uh
Thatd melt or boil before hurting xeroc

[split mortar]

The guy can break timeless lands

[split mortar]

Xeroc can deal damage to things that just doesnt experience time

[minor moon]

Draedon could get the help of the witch's magic, which i'd say is better than auric in terms of harming things

[split mortar]

What will store what will exert that energy

It has to move through somethinf

[minor moon]

draedon is the smartest thing in the universe, he'd figure out a way if he had millenias

[split mortar]

Being smart doesnt mean finding a solution
Telefrag ultranukes may work but PL which we know can teleport wont work since uh
Xerocs the god of that stuff

Im not stating xeroc rn is beyond draedon

Xeroc just grows faster

[minor moon]

Witch's magic could harm xeroc or potentially kill him if combined with a buncha things to make the ultimate weapon

[split mortar]

Scal wont be alive forever

And well
Why would she help draedon

And why can she hurt xeroc?

[minor moon]

i just hypothesized that since her magic is obviously stronger than auric which can barely hurt xeroc (implies that auric can hurt him)

[split mortar]

This barely hurting is based on xeroc right now btw
Uh
Yeah xeroc is just gonna get stronger

[minor moon]

erm

Well

[limpid saddle]

Xeroc training his endurance by beating caving his skull in with an auric bar repeatedly

[minor moon]

What if draedon had the witch by his side (and also the witch consuming yharon's auric soul to be a god which means she'll be immortal in terms of aging) and had the ability to time travel, then he prepared for the fight for eons and time travelled to the time he started training then surprise attacked Xeroc

[split mortar]

Time travel may not be possible in calamity

[long bloom]

draedon could figure it out

[limpid saddle]

(he is now glup-shitto tier & will soon reach magna orbfield)

[long bloom]

it's just general relativity

[split mortar]

Doesnt it require going faster then light or something

[long bloom]

terraria has teleporters

[split mortar]

Which draedon aims to do but idk if they can

[minor moon]

Yeah, might be possible in cal

[long bloom]

that's not too far fetched

[limpid saddle]

true

[split mortar]

Ok true
But i doubt it counts otherwise draedon woulda said it already been broken

[minor moon]

He might make time travel possible with dangerous amounts of electiricity and magic

[long bloom]

oh yeah magic also exists

[split mortar]

Eh it doesnt matter how smart draedon gets
If its impossible in calamity then its just plain impossible
We dunno if it is or not so idk why we should consider it a possibility

[minor moon]

If it was possible though, xeroc would lose

[warm iris]

Xeroc might beat Goku chat

[split mortar]

Who said xeroc wouldnt be able to also find o it

[split mortar]

❌

[minor moon]

Draedon would figure out first considering his main aspect is being the smartest thing

[warm iris]

Draedon with prep time or Batman with prep time

[split mortar]

Batman depending on the versions

[minor moon]

Batman if its the batman who laughs

[warm iris]

So 2nd worst version of him?

[minor moon]

Yeah,cal universe aint that strong

I doubt that xeroc is even planetary level

[warm iris]

Tbf Draedon doesn't even seem to gaf when you beat the Exo Mechs

He probably has some weird stuff hiding

[long bloom]

just barely not

[split mortar]

Xeroc may be able to oneshot a few big mountains with a regular attack

[minor moon]

So barely large island?

[warm iris]

That's weird to think about considering how much stronger than Moon Lord the bosses are, let alone lore figures we haven't seen yet

[minor moon]

moon lord was on life support my dude

[long bloom]

yeah

[warm iris]

okay that's fair

[long bloom]

current ml was a fucking cripple

[split mortar]

If we go by powerscaling terms island levels is when we start getting to every nuke irl combined into one attack

[minor moon]

Continent level i'd say

[split mortar]

Look at my pfp and realise how hurt the guy has been for 8 centuries

[long bloom]

xeroc could wipe out all life on a planet if they tried unbelievably hard

[warm iris]

Give him his legs back

[split mortar]

@wheat walrus

[warm iris]

Ig I never really thought about it that way since I always looked at it from a gameplay point where you can blow up the entire world in an hour or two if you're dedicated

[split mortar]

We only play on part of a continent

[wheat walrus]

p

[minor moon]

I'd say a continent if its a large world

[split mortar]

Get pinged idiot

[long bloom]

i can't say too much about this bc patron info so i bid you farewell

[warm iris]

true but also you can cause a lot of destruction really quickly so I always thought it made sense that lore beings that are way above you would be able to do the same if not better and faster

[minor moon]

You get to have post game content cause you paid 5 dollars?!?!

[split mortar]

Its closer to 20 i think

[manic coral]

and also no they don't

[split mortar]

Also its lore i think

[manic coral]

[split mortar]

Just more spoilers

Not more game

[manic coral]

also hello

[minor moon]

it just made me wanna donate 20 dollars

[warm iris]

Ello

[split mortar]

Helllo its powerscaling the talks rn

[manic coral]

oh boy!

[warm iris]

That's what they want, Xzier is a government agent trying to get you to buy their subscription, don't fall for it

[minor moon]

Xeroc would lose tho in the circumstances i told u

[limpid saddle]

Todays topic: "Can Draedon figure out time travel?"

[split mortar]

More specifically could draedon ever kill xeroc konda

[manic coral]

no

if he could you'd have a future him going back in the past

[limpid saddle]

The answers are in folks

[minor moon]

U r no fun 😠

[manic coral]

which you literally never see

[warm iris]

I respect that, lore gets convoluted when time travel gets involved

[split mortar]

Same for if xeroc could
Just nuke ml probably

[young socket]

a draedon who could time travel would just tell a younger draedon how to time travel

[warm iris]

Yes we do (It's gonna get added in 30 years but pretend it's there)

[manic coral]

draedon i can see where "can he figure out time travel" comes from

for xeroc it just seems random

[manic coral]

pretty much yeah

[split mortar]

Guy cant age and wont get beat in a fight really
Basically infinite time

[cloud ibex]

i do wonder how a discussion between two draedons would be

[warm iris]

Get on it Cei

[minor moon]

Its possible that he'd have invented it, but decides not to use it to not accidentally cause paradoxes which leads to the end of everything

[manic coral]

they'd hardly even need to have one

i mean one would probably just

integrate the other

probably the more advanced one

and the less advanced one would be chill with it

[warm iris]

Booo, you're being lazy

[split mortar]

Time travel is too messy of a idea to get included in calamity imo

[long bloom]

i get to know prime ml's power level

[manic coral]

i mean

[warm iris]

is he beating Goku is the important question

[manic coral]

"really strong"

[long bloom]

i haven't seen dragon ball

[warm iris]

Goku is Gokuversal

[minor moon]

Can prime moonlord beat xeroc

[split mortar]

We know the guys post yharim and noxus but below xeroc
I dunno how much matters beyond that for a descriptor

[split mortar]

Fuck no

[manic coral]

all logic says you're joking around

however, due to how this communtiy is sometimes

i feel obligated to seriously answer

that answer being "what no of course not"

[minor moon]

We are dead serious here

[warm iris]

I am dw 😭

[split mortar]

Can xeroc survive the heat death

[wheat walrus]

symgau

[split mortar]

Get powerscaled idiot

[minor moon]

Also can 100 gorillas beat 1 eye of cthulhu

[manic coral]

i've seen some people unironically say yharon can destroy a galaxy before so

[long bloom]

no

[warm iris]

No

[long bloom]

eoc can fly

[wheat walrus]

you cant even scale gelon mun

[split mortar]

Havent you seen people unironically say slime god was like
Wacky op

[manic coral]

assuming normal attack patterns and not the actual smartest option of just staying in the air

probably

[wheat walrus]

outerversal wall of flesh

[manic coral]

what type of gorilla we talking

[wheat walrus]

🔥

real ones

assume silverback

[manic coral]

if silverback then yeah they have it in the bag

most likely

[split mortar]

Scal is beyond gods scal is high outer

[minor moon]

EoC would smash them, gorillas aint that good at strategy, atleast not better than humans

[warm iris]

I've been trying to write my own thing for some time and I find the thought of ppl misinterpreting a character that could barely destroy a mountain being universal or some outrageous shit really funny

[manic coral]

yharon is weaker than the person who took several days to evaporate part of a sea

[wheat walrus]

😨

[manic coral]

so just like by that logic alone

[wheat walrus]

calamity scaling if people only used onscreen feats 📉

[manic coral]

yeah of course yharon isnt that strong

[long bloom]

is faster than light travel possible in calamity (besides teleporting)

[split mortar]

Scal is city block level

[manic coral]

calamtiy sclaing if people actually paid attention

[wheat walrus]

cei that's the problem, they do

but they do too much

[manic coral]

teleporters ain't even that they very visible are not that fast

[warm iris]

It's called overthinking

[wheat walrus]

yes

[manic coral]

ok let me rephrase

[wheat walrus]

hell not even that in a way

[manic coral]

if people didn 't selectively ignore things and also ignore actual context

and didn't cherrypick shit

[wheat walrus]

the radiator is mountain level

[split mortar]

If people looked for the actual scaling and not whatever they need to say slime god beats creative mode steve

[warm iris]

Pyrogen is outerversal because it'd be funny

[manic coral]

gfb is noncanon obviously so

[minor moon]

Also, post game player teaming up with draedon to kill xeroc gives draedon a chance

[manic coral]

sure fuck it why not

[split mortar]

Player vs xeroc will be a spar where xeroc holds back from insta sniping us with the actual sun iirc

[split mortar]

Fire

[split mortar]

But either way the lore is up to you for the player character

[warm iris]

I don't understand why ppl bring up literal cheats as part of discussions that are very directly tied to the lore of a character

[minor moon]

Actual sun would be absurd, he aint even continental pal

[split mortar]

The terrarian is you

[long bloom]

he controls the sun

canonically

[manic coral]

it's just that the sun isn't what you might think of

[split mortar]

Xeroc in embers just causes the entire celestial object to just

Vanish

[long bloom]

cal sun is just a lot weaker than irl sun

[manic coral]

it's more like if the moon were made from pure energy

[young socket]

OMG GUYS PYROGEN IS OUTVERSAL!!!!!!!!!!!!!!1!!!

[split mortar]

Fire

[warm iris]

Knew it

[manic coral]

yeah that's pyrogen's gimmick i think

[split mortar]

Bitch

[wheat walrus]

symgau

[manic coral]

🖕

[minor moon]

Then that means the flat earth theory is true in cal

[split mortar]

🖕

[manic coral]

what no why would it

[split mortar]

The sun revolves around the planet

Geocentric

[manic coral]

^

again

more like just

[warm iris]

This truly was our calamity

[manic coral]

a second moon made from pure energy

[split mortar]

Its a planet system not solar sustem

[manic coral]

is closer to what it is

[minor moon]

Cant cal respect physics just a lil?

[snow mountain]

draedon's hyperbolic goon chamber

[manic coral]

no

go away

[snow mountain]

😔

[minor moon]

Then that'd mean xeroc is low planetary level

[wheat walrus]

arrant calamity of a statement

[warm iris]

What if Yharim was betrayed and trapped in the super hyperbolic time chamber (Like the regular hyperbolic time chamber but one second inside is like 3 trillion years outside)

[minor moon]

Damn

[snow mountain]

ARE YOU SEEING THE VISION?

[minor moon]

For how much real world time

[wheat walrus]

are you visioning the sight?

[snow mountain]

yes

[warm iris]

One second inside = 3 trillion out

[split mortar]

Dies of age

[wheat walrus]

flame

[split mortar]

Or thirst

Or hungerp

[snow mountain]

no wonder draedon has so much yuri taking up all his processing power

[warm iris]

how old even is he?

[split mortar]

Oh ither way round

[minor moon]

That was not what i asked, for how long in irl time he was there

[warm iris]

idk, up to you

[split mortar]

130 ish
-# thought one secons outside was 3 tril inside oop

[wheat walrus]

WHAT

[minor moon]

If its a planck time, xeroc would win, if its for a year, xeroc's gone

[wheat walrus]

if you converted the moon to energy it would be dwarf star level...

[warm iris]

Safe to say we're not seeing him again

Maybe that's where he's been all this time and that's why he hasn't been added yet

[split mortar]

Thought itd be bigger ngl

[minor moon]

Cal power scaling is totally fair! No jump whatsoever also cal: draedon, the second most powerful being in the universe continental while xeroc is dwarf star level

[split mortar]

Tho ig i dunno the difference between moon and star

[manic coral]

incorrect since i don't think how you're asusmign it works is how it actually works but i also don't care enough to argue otherwise

[snow mountain]

DAGOTH UR

[manic coral]

[wheat walrus]

zawg that's like billions or trillions idk times more energy than the energy needed to actually destroy the moon 💔

[split mortar]

@wheat walrus

[wheat walrus]

gelon mun...

[snow mountain]

welcome, moon and star.

[manic coral]

i was literally just trying to give a simplified explaination

[warm iris]

correct because I said so

[wheat walrus]

brug

[snow mountain]

listen yharim is dagoth ur

they are both hot men eating beans

[split mortar]

Could i take a spoonfull of the sun and eat it

[manic coral]

in theory yes

[split mortar]

YOOOOOO

FUCK YEAH

WOOOOOO

[wheat walrus]

Cei just say that the planet in calamity isn't flat but it's geocentric because it's a realm that transcends space, time and dimensions and is ontological and metaphysical

trust me

[hoary berry]

melon's biggest dream just came true

[minor moon]

A moon is a dwarf planet that orbits planets and has a shape that is spherical, or 98%spherical, a star however is much bigger and has so much mass that in its core fusion reaction happens and for that reason photosynthesis exists cause, yknow, it needs light and all

[snow mountain]

waow i can feel xeroc

[warm iris]

okay so that just means my OC > your OC
That means I'm better and you're going to hell or something, idk

[manic coral]

i couldn't say that you'd SURVIVE it. maybe you could.

but still

i guess you could eat it yes

[split mortar]

Id just eat the damage and be fine

[warm iris]

We have obsidian skin for a reason

[snow mountain]

but its like hyper gamer power

[manic coral]

so true!

[split mortar]

The sun nom

[warm iris]

we need to figure out what the sun tastes like so we can monopolize it

[manic coral]

i mean in immense moderation it'd probably be fine

if you had jsut like

a drop

[split mortar]

Can i ask draedon what the sun tastes like and get a csnon answer in sso

[manic coral]

no

[split mortar]

Sad

[warm iris]

I'm more worthy of getting into heaven than you cause I made my dude Gokuversal+++, that's how it works I think

[manic coral]

it'd probably not taste like anything

[split mortar]

Awww

Sad

[warm iris]

I think it tastes like metal

[wheat walrus]

i made my dude large high randomasslightnovelversal++++

[split mortar]

I should go eat some actusl food

[warm iris]

You ever eat liver? That's how I imagine

[warm iris]

Calamity light novel when, Cei

[minor moon]

Why not? He can develop tungsten mechanical tastebuds similar to ours to taste sun (also tungsten bc it wont melt)

[wheat walrus]

yep, cal light novel when we need outerhouse scaling

[faint totem]

What

[manic coral]

ok anyways i'm going back to terraria

[split mortar]

Tungsten melts to furnace
You need adamantite forge for adamantite or above

[manic coral]

i am finally playing fargos after i said i would

and have said i would

[split mortar]

Playing the raria

[manic coral]

for like

[wheat walrus]

the tier after boundless

[manic coral]

the past 4 years

[warm iris]

enjoy

[split mortar]

Lol

Hope its going fun

[manic coral]

ye!

it is :D

[split mortar]

Yyasy

[warm iris]

All I'm hearing is that furnace scales above sun

[minor moon]

My bad, talked about actual physics, he could make tastebuds from Auric

[wheat walrus]

outerhouse can only be attained by transcending yourhouse dimension, outerhouse+ if you have been blessed by shower

[split mortar]

Cosmilite is naturally liquid and will be hardened iirc

[wheat walrus]

high outerhouse level is only attained if you have been blessed by grass after transcending yourhouse

[warm iris]

We have obsidian skin for a reason chat, y'all just not thinking right

[split mortar]

And once you are beyond the confines of all house tiers you can finally go outside and touch some grass

[wheat walrus]

high outerhouse+ if you also attained friendship

[fierce pagoda]

How do you write an outerversal character, that also makes sense

[minor moon]

Pots dont work on robots like draedon

[split mortar]

Make it God

[wheat walrus]

and then there's employed, the tier you attain after you successfully apply for a job

[minor moon]

Terra 2 saitama for example

[warm iris]

You don't lmao, you just make it vague asf

[split mortar]

Like other then that idk

[wheat walrus]

speak in fancy terms

or make some hogslop mess cosmology

[fierce pagoda]

yeah everytime i read up on an outerversal character, its always so vague

[faint totem]

I’m imagining cal’s reaction to literally any of the fuck off laser beam magic weapons

[wheat walrus]

i guess there's some stuff like

[warm iris]

If you're writing a god character, you don't gotta describe their power in detail, just say "infinite" like any reasonable person because their strength isn't the point (usually)

[wheat walrus]

certain outer gods in cthulhu mythos/lovecraft

that make sense as "outerverse level"

[fierce pagoda]

like what do you mean infinitely transcending an infinite amount of dimensions

[wheat walrus]

but like idk

[fierce pagoda]

what does that mean

[minor moon]

Its beyond human comprehension

[warm iris]

It's just a bunch of buzz words 😭

[wheat walrus]

to me, outerverse level is like a meme tier

[split mortar]

Transcending is like
The highest level of above something i think

[fierce pagoda]

but wouldnt transcending once work

why do you have to transcend infinitely

[split mortar]

Ok but 2 transcendings

[wheat walrus]

you dont get it, my dimension infinitely transcends an infinite amount of dimensions, and is ontological in nature, and metaphysical too!

[warm iris]

for the powerscaling community, the word "infinite" is like the word "literally" for normal people, just randomly thrown into sentences for no rhyme or reason (Looking at you DC/Marvel)

[split mortar]

What the fuck

[wheat walrus]

no that's transcend

[warm iris]

Don't get me wrong, I loved Simon vs Kyle but that breakdown made no fuckin sense 💔

[manic coral]

i hate that i've seen stuff like this unironically before

[wheat walrus]

so sad since it's a cool word ngl

[minor moon]

Also Terra 2 saitama is stronger than the God in his manga

[wheat walrus]

my character is platonic concept in nature, you don't get it

😔

[warm iris]

The way you get to that point is by creating a large self looping chain of worf effects until you have an exponentially bullshit power system

[wheat walrus]

the most ill get is higher dimensional scaling (the one with the Ds)

even if that one's already boring

my character has more Ds than you i win

💔

[warm iris]

Dragon Ball power levels all over again

[minor moon]

Higher dimensions got a point tho

You are essentially God to a 2d person

[wheat walrus]

yes you can still make sense out of them

but scaling w that is kinda boredom

[cosmic minnow]

Saying characters are just super powerful and cant loose at all is stupid, i mean i made an oc thats very strong but still beatable yk? its the difference between actually strong for good reason and a power fantasy

i wish more people knew that

[wheat walrus]

"i got more ds than you 😔, you're 11d and i am 12d i win"

[fierce pagoda]

You essentially have to create an incredibly complex and large cosmology, then make a character that scales to that cosmology. and then you just have to keep making your cosmology bigger and bigger every time you find a character stronger than your own

thats how you win dimensional scaling

[cosmic minnow]

(though my dumbass wrote the oc in old lore)

[minor moon]

That one 4 yo's OC that beats anyone no matter what, is an example

[cosmic minnow]

fr

[split mortar]

The only time i see stuff like outerversal as reasonable for a character to be is well
A creator force beyond all possible power in the verse or whatevs

[split mortar]

Or that sort of style

[fierce pagoda]

but then powerscalers call it a no limits fallacy

and discount the character

[wheat walrus]

if you make a character be powerful, they work best if they have traits that are as powerful as they are

[minor moon]

Saitama is a no limits fallacy if you think about it, he adapts to his enemy

[fierce pagoda]

true

Doomsday too then i think

[cosmic minnow]

mahoraga

[wheat walrus]

if they're impactful, don't feel silly stupid, that's something

[minor moon]

Doom slayer earned being the strongest one tho

[wheat walrus]

no it's an oc fallacy actually...

[fierce pagoda]

For me, after a character gets to a certain strenght, then they just all equal at that point

because how do you meaningfully scale which "infinite strength" characters are stronger

[minor moon]

Some infinities are bigger than others in math, for example

[fierce pagoda]

Like the one above all vs the presence, how do you determine whos strongest without going crazy with vague statements and personal interpratations and pretending like you understand Quantum physics and dimensions

[split mortar]

I kidnapped this from omni a while ago, here

Sorry if a bit too obtrusive

[fierce pagoda]

and how would you meaningfully apply that to determine whos stronger

i dont think you can take math concepts like that and just apply them

[wheat walrus]

chilling my shelf

that's prolly not even accurate/accurate, at least most likely not with outer and such

I can attest for anything up to high hyperverse level

that's how they're described as and it's understandable you could say

[minor moon]

Multiverse has universes in em, hyperverses have multiverses in em and outerverses have hyperverses in them

[random mulch]

guys i'm starting to think that powerscaling is kinda dumb

[minor moon]

Just that simple

[wheat walrus]

powerscalers are

powerscaling is cool

honestly

and, i think it needs to be reminded

powerscaling just means "measuring something's power", usually fictional

tiering system like vsbwiki's is 1 way

[fierce pagoda]

Powerscaling is cool when its concepts that are easily understood

[wheat walrus]

as for outerverse level, since it's the most controversial one

I think it struggles to work because it's clearly made for a select few cases

[minor moon]

People be like this when you add real life things "well duh he is real so it means he auto wins"

[wheat walrus]

but otherwise it's so vague for most of fiction

[fierce pagoda]

but when you talk about things like dimensionality, that even scientists who study that don't even understand it fully, what hope does powerscalers have in trying to apply it

[wheat walrus]

you could have nearly anything as outer

[wheat walrus]

boring argument

i get the idea of it, and i like it as a joke

but otherwise it's such an obvious avoidance of the topic

and it's especially funny when it's about say

breaking bad, which isn't real, just live action

[fierce pagoda]

I also don't like the "the writers decide who wins" retort

cuz like no shit

[wheat walrus]

yes

same

that only works within the same fictional work

[fierce pagoda]

its as you said

its an avoidance of the topic

[minor moon]

https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=eGguwYPC32I

[wheat walrus]

and that's also what every powerscaler follows when talking about 1 fictional work

people care so much abut what the writer said

because of that

last month you had people going wild over a recent jjk interview that confirmed Gojo being caught offguard

because Gege was the one saying it

[fierce pagoda]

Yeah because every single powerscaler is j just as knowledgeable as this kid

[wheat walrus]

lmao

[wheat walrus]

so this

not only is this avoiding the topic

it's also so blatant and obvious and if you use this as an actual argument

you don't know what you're talking about then

[minor moon]

Its also pulling a captain obvious

[wheat walrus]

yep !

[fierce pagoda]

yeah, people feel like they're the smartest person in the room when they say it

[warm iris]

You continously add buzz words

that's how

[wheat walrus]

indeed

[wheat walrus]

and also indeed

but they're clueless 💔

[split mortar]

Transcendental infinite beyond dimensionslity

[wheat walrus]

people understood that what the writer says matters way before stan lee ever spoke about it

[warm iris]

I'm glad I chose to write something that doesn't pull this bullshit 💔

[wheat walrus]

and that also changes nothing

[fierce pagoda]

I also think about how 4d things, and even 2d things are just theoretical concepts, as in theyre not actually real things we can look at and observe

[warm iris]

This is true but it also avoids discussion, it's a convo ender

[minor moon]

Actually, shadows are 2D

[fierce pagoda]

so there really isnt any real way of knowing what would happen if "2d" beings or "4d" beings interacts with 3d beings, its all up to guessing

[wheat walrus]

if there's a confirmed winner in the story it's that, not every story and every matchup between characters has a confirmed winner and things aren't so black and white, especially if you're a good writer and/or there's many characters

and this isn't even getting into crossovers

[warm iris]

With good stories it's really easy to just infer the answer

[wheat walrus]

where most times outta ten, you have 0 writers nor story telling you who wins or giving you hints in the first place

[random mulch]

shadows aren't a "thing" in the first place

[wheat walrus]

yes, im talking if you have say, characters with a lot of specific abilities

[minor moon]

Its like saying nothing is faster than light and being technically correct cuz shadows are nothing

[wheat walrus]

things become way more toss-up

especially if you have 2 characters who never really interacted even

i guess it depends on case

[warm iris]

Even then it's either an easy tell or you have an actually interesting conversation on your hands

[wheat walrus]

yep

[warm iris]

When you can actually imagine what the fuck they're doing and not just reading added buzzwords to see who has more buzzwords, it gets cool and interesting

[minor moon]

Can we go back to discussing lore?

[fierce pagoda]

what lore

[wheat walrus]

fair enough

[fierce pagoda]

we've exhausted all the lore

[minor moon]

Ultrakill lore time

[warm iris]

Time to do what any normal, content starved community might do, start from the beginning again

Right so, EOC, ammirite?

[fierce pagoda]

how was the Calamity earth created, and why does it have a world soul

I guess we'll never know

[split mortar]

We dunno

[minor moon]

Would this guy win or yharon

[warm iris]

Nobody, the fight would get interrupted by the Ultrakill community

trying to track him down

[minor moon]

Tbh they would be an advantage for v1 cuz of the metallic kool aid

[wheat walrus]

idk

[pulsar ocean]

In Jotaro vs yharim I think Jotaro wins cuz star platinum is MFTL+++++++

[minor moon]

What does all those plusses mean

[warm iris]

Jotaro wins because it's the same type of stand as Magician's Red

[wheat walrus]

I remember talking about V1 VS Calamity with Cei, my take on it was that it'd be like pre-ML (somewhere around Deus currently) and lose to ML, Cei's take is that it would win against ML, but struggle greatly, winning purely because of blood, and would be countered by Providence, who is both stronger and bloodless

Yharon should have blood, but it's even stronger so, e

[pulsar ocean]

You get to know once you become a powerscaler

[minor moon]

Metallic kool aid always does a number

[warm iris]

Okay but your argument is invalid cause my OC solos you irl btw

Check your front door

Or ur gonna get speedblitzed or something

idk

[minor moon]

Also v1 is FTL (cause he can hit heat itself which goes at the speed of light) so he can dodge everything

[fierce pagoda]

How do they move faster than light when they have mass

[warm iris]

Wouldn't most post ML threats just outmaneuver V1?

[fierce pagoda]

Checkmate powerscalees

[warm iris]

They just do

[fierce pagoda]

Peak

[minor moon]

Physics doesnt make sense once u get to know fiction

[spare pier]

WHAT

😭

WHAT DO YOU MEAN V1 CAN HIT HEAT????

YOU MEAN SISYPHUS??????

[warm iris]

He can hit heat

[wheat walrus]

im faster than light

[pulsar ocean]

Heh what's the mass of a stand

[woeful karma]

shotgun

[minor moon]

Yeah, shotgun pellets are heat

[wheat walrus]

yea probs

[fierce pagoda]

I guess it would depend on the stand?

[woeful karma]

because OBVIOUSLY the shotgun pellets are moving at the speed of light just look at them

[spare pier]

[wheat walrus]

ok so what about the pellets says they're straight up thermal energy

[minor moon]

Its heat tho

[split mortar]

Yeah
Not like theyre a projectile and theres hitscan weapons

[warm iris]

Erm acksthually they move in 0 seconds cause that's just how the game works

[pulsar ocean]

Not the same as real bullets cuz the bullets v1 produces are made of blood

[wheat walrus]

also "heat" can just mean venting heat

[split mortar]

Chat doesnt heat take time to like
Conduct through air

[warm iris]

get your facts checked

[dusk laurel]

We need to destroy this channel

[pulsar ocean]

All of v1's ammo is blood

[wheat walrus]

heated air is not moving at the speed of light

[minor moon]

Its technically blood, as blood turn into energy to power things

[fierce pagoda]

Isnt heat just the movement of particles

[fierce pagoda]

So by hitting heat its just hitting moving particles

[minor moon]

He can react to it tho

[warm iris]

Chat wtf does this mean? 💔

[fierce pagoda]

He can react to moving particles?

So can i

[wheat walrus]

me when i get blinded by a flashlight and react to it

[pulsar ocean]

The guy with the light fruit from one piece no diffs calamity cuz they can't hit him

[warm iris]

I can't pretend to know what bro's saying anymore

[warm iris]

No haki?

[wheat walrus]

reb awakening ritual

[solar wharf]

can't mana be shaped in many ways?

[split mortar]

REBECCA, ONEPIECE SUCKS

[warm iris]

Okay but they don't have haki

[wheat walrus]

how im gonna be talking about lore discussion in 2040

[solar wharf]

idk what haki is

the only original anime i watched

was db

and that's my goat

[warm iris]

One Piece thing

[minor moon]

Chat how many secs does it take for v1 to beat xeroc

[solar wharf]

oh

i wanna watch one piece

[pulsar ocean]

No haki that means the light fruit guy is invulnerable

[solar wharf]

it seems interesting

[fierce pagoda]

Jjk sprceres when their domains dont work on any characters from other verses (they dont have cursed energy)

[split mortar]

V1 doesnt

[warm iris]

You should, it's really good

[split mortar]

Except sukunas