#lore-discussion
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You can become the second strongest after Xeroc, and unlike yharim you don't particularly hate him
Because that's really all that fight is a sparing match
i believe it would make sense if by the end of everything he felt threatened by your existence and the fact that you are growing in power fast withou even having an auric soul, thus deciding to try and eliminate you before you become an actual threat. (it was too late)
he says hey ur kinda good
ok bye now
thats essentially the end of the fight
because ultimately he isnt threatened by you
He fights you just because you peak his interest. You aren't a threat
sure, but for the future
There is no future that's the end
it is suggested that the terminus is used to seal something away
yeah no theres nothing after xeroc
xeroc and noxus are like
Once xeroc is added that's it the mod is probably done
rn it is but maybe in the future with updates we might have an actual battle with him
the victory lap
yeah
no like the xeroc fight ends that way
it ends with him saying aight u good u good and leaving
Plus xeroc is just a fun sparing match when he is added. He could pretty easily end it if he really wanted
actual brick wall
idk i think it would be cooler to have a battle to death with THE g-man in the end
A battle to the death would be over very quickly for you
until the fight gets added we will get even stronger
as for reasons previously stated that would not work
well i mean WOTOG managed to do something on that line
Not by much the only thing that's between us and him boss fight wise is yharim and the other optional super boss noxus
Wotog is a) not canon and b) that's not xeroc
i know my dud
nor do u kill them
Like I know you would think it's cooler, but logistically that power jump would not be feasible
Killing yharim doesn't give you the power to kill the strongest of the gods
cheat permission slip doesnt do shit 💔
it does, it allows me to legally install cheats
its a piece of paper they literally cant stop you from using cheatsheet or heros mod or dragonlens
Would be funny if noxus drops nothing because it's a super boss and not actually needed
well i think going from yharim to noxus is also a BIG jump
you also get help
Not as big of one as you think
like you arent going at noxus alone
Plus yah you do have help
Pretty sure xeroc is still planned to help you at this time
Kill snipe then dips
if xeroc is as op as you said that the jump is ridiculous why would he help/ care about it? if he cares about the fight wouldnt he just snap noxus away from existence?
hes got other shit to do rather than go hunt down noxus
hes strong yes but he cant be everywhere at once
then why lose time helping us?
same reason yharim cant just snap slime god
Noxus also isn't actively being a threat

if he is gonna help and this is a minor nuisance wouldnt it make more sense to just erase him and go on about his business?
why lose time helping us?
you do the majority of the heavy lifting xeroc is just there to point you in the right direction and take control once shit gets bad
if noxus is a threat and we get loot from noxus then, post noxus using his loot we would be a threat to xeroc
We don't get loot xeroc sniped the kill
asking someone to become whatever go my scarab takes a lot less time and effort than doing it yourself
sure but by your line of reasoning why would he help, hes got more important shit to deal with
that would feel like shit tbh
things like noxus is the exact reason why he became a god
because he does want noxus gone its just not pressing enough for him to do it himself
even worse if after that i dont even get to burst his ass
Why it's a super boss it's not actually a part of progression
Those are just optional challenges
isnt he like omnipresent/omnipotent?
no????
no
Xeroc is not that powerful also xeroc is not a he anymore
sure, but no loot for beating an excruciating challenge feels like shit
I got yelled at by people like Rebecca and cei when I called them a he lol
hes strong enough to be functionally omnipotent for most purposes of the story but he isnt actually omnipotent
people still fight jared when they arent playing ranged and dont complain
ok, what are his limits then?
The only loot after yharim is like literally the dev stuff
Which is the xeroc drop
Xeroc is the strongest character in lore and you can't get that strong
But xeroc is no longer God with a capital G
its different i think, to me at least he feels like a barrier to terminus
the reward is terminus
no it isnt
Terminus is in a chest
yes
you can flat out ignore jared and grab the terminus with no issues at all
if you have chaos state
but it feels like cheating ito take it without facing him
then you're free to fight him before grabbing it
who is then?
but its not a reward for beating him if it was it would be dropped by him
There isn't one that we know of
it doesnt matter because if there is one they arent involved in the story
Xeroc is not even planetary level
really?
Yep
dropped by him or the chest would be unlocked after killing him
i really like the way infernum does it tbh
xeroc is at what large island level max
I mean
wasn't there some chart that put us above prime fovos?
Non telegraphed deathray that cover an entire screen
And his eyeballs have forms like eye of Cthulhu
And start dashing around with chompy mouths
hmm, dont we like... summon blackholes by ceaseless void? i mean ....
i dont think we are above prime fovos
All pillars themed
pretty sure we are
Because colors
no
if not at the same level
we are dealing with interdimensional monsters but no one there can blow up an island?
I don't think we get that far because prime fovos is just above noxus and I don't know if we can beat noxus without help
mfw tooltip exaggerates things
if it was actually a black hole using it would just delete the world and character
alright who's got the image
well its what it says
theres no way we cant destroy an island
Not it a single hit
i mean you can you just cant do it in one hit
we could, just not at the snap of our fingers
which is the requirement for being considered island level
Xeroc can destroy an island in a single hit
Fovos is at least dragon level it killed a few 😂
no way man
even nuclear bombs arent island level
they max out at somewhere around small island
that is. city level
That's a city though not an entire island
dont you think draedons tech is more advanced than fat boy?
if it was the entire island all of japan would have been destroyed
have you seen what a tsar bomba can do?
draedon could probably make a nuke that could blow up an island but is there really a reason too?
Yes
you dont believe draedon can make bombs thousands of times stronger tha 1945 tech?
The one ares uses are not big nukes
i mean look at the exo mechs
its. 50 megatons. which is city level
I never said he couldn't he just didn't give the mech them because they would blow themselves up
But the Exo Mechs can still obliterate everything with ease 
if yharim asked for it, draedon would probably make one lowkey
Dude I get the feeling they should be able to blow themselves up with what they already have
Considering just what it is
Like
They almost did
I don’t remember this
We push them so hard their internals started to melt
Ares core do be like that
city level maxes out at 100 megatons which is the force the tsar bomba was originally intended to be able to deliver except it was scaled back for safety reasons
Time to become iron man in terraria and use Ares's core as my arc reactor
so even at the originally intended payload it wouldnt break past city level it would be stuck in at most large city level
Power scaling channel my beloved
Shattering windows from 500 miles seems a bit more than city level…
💀
That was my idea for April fools Day lol
that doesnt count as city level
City level implies that it would take out the entire city in one hit
city level is strong enough to vaporize a city in one hit
Oh
But it is still a part of the damage.
Physics is different in calamity in a way that makes nuclear power weaker. The exo mechs are stronger than Calamity nukes but weaker than real life ones
So basically calamity has physics beyond our understanding of the real world. Like 4D type shit.
Draedon however could probably make a nuke as strong as tsar Bomba
Probably even bigger
it is to an extent but not enough to bump up to a higher damage tier
The level of destruction the exo mechs are capable of producing is greater than a single real life nuclear bomb but mainly because they can keep fighting for ages
tsar bomba on taiwan
surface blow
And also why they’re A PAIN IN THE ASS TO FIGHT
I HATE FIGHTING THEIR DUMB BITCH BODIES
IT FUCKING PISSES ME OFF
Do they destroy blocks lol
TO FIGHT THEM
No
I have never fought exo mechs
well imma sleep
If they destroyed blocks the WHOLE WORLD WOULD BE GONE
you need nearly a worldwide arena to do exo mechs
from personal experience
I don't even know what it's like to fight moon lord
So yk
Pretty ass
The furthest I have ever gone is deus and I quit after that
Duke fishron pissed me off so when I fought deus to take a break and died a few times I just gave up
scroll for 5 minutes and you will find this image (i find it as funny as the first day i saw it)
they also cause a region wide thunderstorm for some reason
that image has metastasis and sepulcher so that's probably shy
this may be fire
so did we ever confirm that yharim likes potatoes on pizza?
have to admit i had it once and it was pretty good. granted it was no means a normal pizza and no i will also not elaborate on the specifics
yes cei said so
LMFAO
now wait
lore implications here
pizza exists in calamity
though
i guess milkshakes do as well
and literally every fucking food item from normal terraria
a lot of foods do thanks to vanilla
pizza is also just an item in vanilla
had no idea 
my prime in vanilla was 1.2.4 lmfao
kind of forgot about the game until 1.4, and then spent all of my time playing calamity 

i definitely want to talk more about lore but no cool things come to mind, the sso is going to do wonders
Ok, a bunch of earth foods like pizzas and burgers exist in calamity. Where were they invented?
Because I don't think Italy exists in this
I think people just make the same food
Given the same resources people will just combine whatever the fuck they got and make it eventually
Realistically only extremely simple things like soup would be the same. Some things, like burgers and pizzas as I said, are very specific.
Convergent Recipes
Oh hai reb
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mah cat stepped on mah keyboard dont mind that
car
yes
what were her thoughts
Actually what was Calamitas treatment under yharim?
Was she just treated basic? Like a god or royalty ? Or just spoiled
Also, I could imagine food like in our world existing in calamity, just in variations
Considering how yharim treated his other troups
Id imagine like royalty, outside of uh
The horrors of war
But i dont think we know for 100% sure
Considering the world of calamity has animals, fruits and vegetables we don’t have
that you can eat
The corruption is made of burgers
Spoiled child Calamitas
That commits war crimes
Truly a tale of a cruel world
FUCKING SPOILED
WHY DO I WRITE SOILED
ITS SPOILED
FFS
Considering it’s Yharmy and her being one of the most important assets she was probably treated very generously
EHY ARE YOU LEA HERE
At least new lore Calamitas doesn’t suffer like old lore Calamitas
Imm lea
Why did everyone just suffer in old lore again?
Dark and edgy
melon in calmain
Lmao
Deltaw got flanderised into lea 
HAHA
flanderised?
Melon is a NEWGEN
Shut the fuck up

Djdndnfnfnfnfffffffffffffffkfkgmynyngnnxn!/&:&;&5&5&56
Ah yes, Morse code enigma type of sentence
Nnhu uh imm lea
ah! a bottom
:3
What
i have ONLY seen people with turbo bottom energy type like that
I don’t think top or bottom discussions belong in here
We had enough of them already 🥀
considering it’s an 18+ topic
THSI IS LORE DISCSIRIGKJG
Deltaw catching strays publicly
soon
Deltaw whens lea irl
👁️
ok allen

The rot
Who
It spreads
Allen the Alien
The rp grows
SEA SALT
Ahhh ok
Did someone say deltaw? Delta? Deltarune?
Deltarune tomorrows

Roleplay
No context for the normal lorers
Im so lost on the Sarenio redesign
Obama
And possibly a lore rewrite
O B A M A
I am glad that our president is here with us today
Lore chat takes place in america????
Yes.
I just think Obama was a lot more likeable than most presidents
And here Obama is our president
If wyvern were to consume godlike powers, would it become more of humanoid version or more of dragon-like thing? Because they are some-what dragons rip-off or smth
They become miku
Becoming a god doesnt always entail you become humanoid (providence and slime god were humans)
But it also wont entail becoming more draconic, some may though
Mostly theyd just become quite different and related to their domain like sg being a slime or providence having a lot of fire
-# hope i didnt misinterpret what you meant
^
-# alao draconic offshoots are still actual dragons im pretty sure
hi chat
Hahahahiai
Bunny
BNU
hihiih thats meeeee
hello azzy
lore
Lore
spoils all of calamity lore
No way is that Barack Obama
Calamity lore discussion
Rain world tag
You evolved to a melon gun now?
So why were you banned gun? What evolved you?
:3
I need more gun lore
Valid
Lea silly
._.
How does the drunk princess fit into the lore?
she doesn't, and will soon be dismembered and eaten
:D
They were going to be made to fit the lore but then fabsol happened and now theyre being hyper erased
So they never have fit the lore now
They should just make her the sober prince
ok transitioning cirrus is the funniest fucking thing they could possibly do with her i'll give you that
iunno about that one
if they do that the vibes will feel off cause it's done out of spite rather than only out of genuine support
oh i dont think they SHOULD do it at all. it would just be extremely funny
in my opinion
that's true
just me bieng curious, was there ever a prince of the brimstone kingdom?
i dont think azafure was ever a kingdom
It was a city not a kingdom
got it
I presume it would have some authoritative figure
So like
Would have a mayor or yharim as its leader
Anything mocking fabsol would be fucking hilarious
trans flag painting
Yay
mrs obama get down
🏜️
I headcanon azafure had like a supreme council or smth like that
Oligarchy
Trans person!!!
why so sirius
he sells hrt that gives you buffs
Thats just gender change potions
I said that gives you buffs
If only it existed irl
@warm gull WHY ARE YOU HERE
why do you think
Took you ages to notice
Is it permanent
IM KILLING YOU
cheese youre not a mod anymore you cant do that
i said im killing you not im banning you
Vanillin im going to bury you in bricks
banning is basically killing
not on my watch
the macarena
Hi everyone, I have a question. Does Yharon really die from the player or not?
He does in fact die
It's just that since he's the dragon with the domain of rebirth
he will come back later
He dies
But not permanent
Unless his soul is consumed, he's more or less immortal
How long does it take yharon to hatch and grow
roughly 10 years for the egg to appear
hatching and growing is unknown
Imagine yharon crawling out of his egg like 25 years later just to see a good 90% of the big guys he knew dead and yharim is gone
he ain’t coming back to yharim though
immortality is a curse
is that not stated in his soul thing that drops
whatever the fuck they’re called
i don’t remember the name of these objects but they’re the name of the boss and give info lore wise
lore items
yharon is likely to never truly die
the only people who know the ascension ritual are like
he won’t die, but he won’t come back to yharim.
and yeah yharim's gonna die of old age before yharon's reborn
xeroc probably won't tell anyone
unless he achieves some immortality ahh
I mean its possible that maybe permafrost or draedon know the ritual or smth
i doubt draedon does
silva probably does
silva likely wouldn't tell anyone either
ritual? i’m out that’s kinda spoilers for me mb
Draedon abused bees yharim would never tell him the ritual
yeah
yeah but draedon is old as fuck and so is perma, they're both from the deific era iirc
and like, I am confused about how so many people became knowers of the ritual
to ascend
even though it was basically fully extinguished by the time yharim comes around
and if permafrost was alive for that time then he'd likely know it
he is super old, studies magic, and was born in the deific era
maybe draedon wouldn't know it because he simply woke up after it left common knowledge? but i can think of no reasons that permafrost wouldn't have encountered it
Maybe some peasant was like looking from a bush while xeroc was doing the ritual on zeratros
Draedon is older then perma
ok then nevermind
still weird how they didn't ever figure out the ritual
despite yknow
Dreadons late 600s while perma is like 4-5 hundred iirc
both being interested in magic and science and both were alive while the god ascensions were actively happening
and both being
relatively powerful
at least, draedon is
Draedon also stalked people a lot
but yeah again
even perma is 4-500 years old
that puts him as alive for a good chunk of the deific era
and so
yknow there must have been a good number of people who knew the ritual
if people were actively going out and hunting dragons to try and get auric souls
I can't imagine all of them succeeded
nor that they were all like part of a specific club that agreed not to tell anyone else how to ascend
I dont see why its a issue the mc isnt the defacto strongest in the game at the end
Hell
Theres barely a reason to even kill the guy for motivation
Nor Deus and SCal, aswell as non-living bosses
Nor perma at the end of cryogen
"Man the protag cant become the strongest being in the universe? This story blows" -Real thoughts thunk by real people
does this guy know xeroc has the unmatched power of the fucking sun
Crazy that, that actually is true
Aw man the mc cant become glupshittoversal when the 4th strongest thing known is only city level
Hello there
Hello
Dangit you shoudlve replied with general kenobi
Anuyway
I am also in this conversation, please gentlemen continue
General kenobi!
He won't come back to yharim because yharim will be dead
It's not because he hates Yharim now or something
Not unless the egg is destroyed
what
Destroying the egg just resets the rebirth process
You need to destroy the soul
Which does destroy the egg in the process
yharim
Yharon will be fine
Yharim says Yharon bade him farewell because Yharim will die before Yharon comes back from rebirth
Yharim is the god of primordial dark
dai in calmain
he is he hates the other gods because they are cruel and unjust
Yharim is the auric dragon of men
hse the good one
Thank you!
instead of killing a dragon to absorb is soul he um
he had a famr of tubers
and thats how he became a god
Lol
Pluh
Yharim in his quest to kill god's becomes one, isnt that the whole point?
not all gods are evil but all did kill a dragon
I'm not well versed in the new lore
No? Yharim rejects becoming a god
Ah nvm I'm stupid forget me
we should be able to spare yharim at the end cuz he's not even that bad if you read the lore items
Forgot you have to slurp dragon to become god
Thats what the whole destiny speak is about
Ok guys theres someone whos clueless about the lore i have to engage serious mode
Wb stuff like plantera and queen bee. They're also not evil right...
Chiken nugget spit fire
Yes please ty
qb isn't
I willr eturn one day well versed in the mod
Queen bee is a animal, Plantera, is, well, a plant
yharim basically just did good things and then people blamed him
Plantera is a lot of tormented souls in a plant
Queen bee is an animal
Exactly
Don't really see why they're relevant but yeah
Queen bee is cool
We kill neutral entities completely optional to progression, why should we stop at yharim
I say let yharim die. Gasp
World wide genocide and racism
@midnight vine if you wanna learn the lore...
like the gods literally genocided the dragons yharim is just serving them justice
Yharim is a pretty horrible person
Is why we should kill em
Ignore StinkyChungus25 they are stupid and have a very small brain
Yeeeee
probably LOVE oatmeal
correct
yharim is basically a good guy
Stinkychungus is being a contrarian
That's not very nice
incorrect
I actually did eat oatmeal this morning
see
That's a fact. Nice!
i knew it
it was strawberry flavored
STOP FIGHTING AND START DISCUSSING LORE YALL
i don't think anyone is fighting
yharim barely did anything bad he just killed evil gods
YHARIM GAY AND HOMOPHOBE?
Show me the wheat on a strawberry
Hallowed?
Dead ones
the hallowed also tries to kill you
Avernuts
That's kinda evil, to hell
Send him to Tartarus
yharim even reprimanded draedon when he created the plague, draedon is worse than him
because draedon polluted the ocean
yharim only killed bad guys
What about DOG
Dog created jack shit
dog tried to manipulate yharim into being evil
This chat is so horrible right now
Can we get coke to remove dais jaw
Bark bark? Ngl I'd be evil if my dog wanted me to
Can we get coke to redais moves jar
nuke chat and start over
What is happening even
I just came here
what do you guys not like my new lore user method acting
because there's actual new lore users here.........
how are we supposed to explain the lore to them like that.......
u gotta engage serious mode
real and true serious mode
lock in
I was born to dilly dally
Hiii Garbo
cheesious mode
least comprehensible sentence
Stinker
coke can't do shit to me i'm fucking invincible
melon gub
hey
:3
thats my gimmick
the woke mob will not forgive
@mighty zenith fuck you
:(
@thick slate fuck you
@mighty zenith fuck you
Also to be fair queen bee is entirely optional to progression and Plantera is a unnatural abomination iirc so..
Plantera is also optional
plantera will be getting actual lore in sso
@mighty zenith you’re cool :)
you're optional
plantera is still a main progression boss
@mighty zenith stay safe
I cant wait for the Polterghast rework
🐝 nice
we lov u
Ye
it looks so cool
Ye
Doesnt change the fact its optional
the optionality isn't relevant rn
MY terrarian skips WoF sorry
I was mentioning plantera is also optional like QB
I mean it does
does what 
It means that if you think killing the boss is morally reprehensible for whatever reason you can just not kill it, in theory
my terrarian skips joining the game he just finds yharim's code and deletes it
Rude
and then after my terrarian does that
i go into calmain and ping the developers asking them why yharim isn't spawning
fire
🔥🖋️
vivid appearance
Aye vibid clarity appeared
I remember when I saw vividclarities like daily and confused them like daily with altraxia for some reason
Lol
thank
thank 2
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I didn't realize I wasn't looking at present messages when I typed something.
Oh lol
So I typed a response to something from way earlier on accident
the avarice of greed

meow
car
my car goes mrrp mrrow
Im banning you from typing cat sounds
mrrreow
you mrrp can meow try nya idiot mrrow
I remember when yharim was universal level
Old lore powerscale was inconsistent af
Canonical Terrarian is much more powerful than Calamity Terrarian
And?
Canonical Terraria: Supreme god
ok and?
Calamity Terrarian: Drunk
Calamity terrarian is your headcanon
Why does that matter though?
Theyre drunk if you want
Can you guide me along & help me understand the thought process on why this means Calamitys lore is bad
didn't know stars above had lore
I mean they have the navigator girl i guess that's how it's communicated
power ≠ quality writing
Canon Terraria Lore = Power + quality writing
is stars above lore legit good though now I'm curious
Vanilla terraria certainly has
Some lore
Somewhere
Not consistently
canon terrarian>xeroc
yes
Lol
yharim before: universal
Yharim now: low Planetary
And? Yharim nowadays has more character
what are you saying
I think they think power = good writing
Though may be bait idc
melon gun the obvious bait faller
nah this is this guy's unironic unfiltered abysmal opinion
the protagonist not being the strongest doesn't make sense with Terraria
have you seen the utter shite he sends in gen media
In Terraria your goal is to kill everyone and become the most powerful
I dont see how
no
this is not minecraft
What THE fuck are you saying
"red mist" 
are you actually stupid
Bitch hates project moon?
GREATER SPLIT HORIZONTAL
🐴
HELL yeah
Pretty sure the only character who has a chance of even being around planetary is Xeroc, correct me if I’m wrong
heathcliff, lament mourn and despair this user
Well uh
Xeroc beat us to becoming overpowered
Xeroc my beloved
hes just such a chill guy
the world is your canvas
thats literally the
entire point
true! I’d have a beer with him
the terrarian is also you
So canon Terrarian is actually more powerful lmao
You are
Xeroc using absolutely fucking everything can maybe destroy 1 continent and be tired after
Shit weak characters
why tf does powerscaling matter to lore
My face when universal moonlord cthulhu dies to paper aeroplanes
it sucks balls
Because they do not deserve the title of gods
Thats
No
They are weak as shit
God just means supernatural entity basically
Nop
they are gods in comparison to a regular guy, they don't need to be omnipotent/ omniscient and the like
its fucked how powerscaling rotted you are
Canon moonlord is all that and more
@wheat walrus as our resident powerscaling expert we need you
If they were omnipotent there couldnt be any fight
Well to be fair I did say he’s the closest to have a chance at being close to planet level
But with that my initial beliefs of the entire canon’s powerscaling are vindicated since even one of the devs said that Cal ain’t even a planetary threat, which can everyone a good idea at where the verse caps
My face after the canonical terrarian kills the most powerful beings of the calamity using a Yoyo:
also absurdly powerful shit is lame
Ok and
SOMEONE
GET THE GIIF
STICKER
The lore is you?
That image?
YES
I cant ill get killed
Xeroc during the boss rush deadass said the display you gave wasn’t enough so at the moment I’m pretty sure Xeroc still wins via sneezing
Are the post-game super bosses intended to be canon, tho? I’d imagine not
I can dm it to you
Why care about any of these characters when goku no diffs all of them 🙄
i can't post images man
pre retcon yharim beats goku
How
@chrome iris just going to warn you for being purposefully disruptive; if you can't actually contribute to the conversation in a meaningful way please just leave
You’re not wrong lol
Saiyan Saga Goku alone can no diff
what i did bro
🍿
Be disruptive af
Lobotomy moment
cog you've saved my brain twice over thank you
there must be a corporation behind this
Oh neat I can post images
You're not actually talking to anyone here, you're just throwing stuff out there to try and fetch a response. You're obviously just trolling and if you don't stop you're going to be timed out. Please try to actually hold a constructive conversation with others if you're going to talk in this server.
the nefarious ayin
Exquisitely so
This guy is confusing me, yesterday you mentioned me and mentioned several people that I never mentioned here, and said that I was arguing with them
???? I'm not trolling, I'm just saying my opinion
the evil and malicious 
Yeah in hindsight idk why I was tryna debate with the guy he’s just rage baiting
bait truly used to be believable
the loathsome hod
people give different opinions here, you automatically: bait, troll
this guy is genuinely unfiltered rot
I think its more so the constant ignoring others opinion and spouting the same shit over again
^
Opinion =/= Slanderous garbage
A troll requires bait to be cast they can both be true at the same time
This
i thought it was a bit for like several of those gen-media posts but
next thing you know they'll be ''just asking questions''
A conversation requires a give and take and you're just saying the same thing over and over and not listening to anyone which is disruptive to actually having a conversation. If you're not here in good faith; leave.
Thanks cog you put it nicer then i would have
🗣️ 🔥
all this because I said the lore is bad
on a reason that gives fuck-all
If you did it constructively and in good faith then we would be fine with it
as justification
That’s literally not it, but sure
It’s bcuz u were being a meanie
But it was just nonsense powerscale talk
^
You didn't understand what I meant, I just said that I think the lore is bad because of the bad powerscaling
There is no powerscaling though?
there really isnt powerscaling lmao
lore is bad because everything isn't absurdly blown out of proportion
The lore would stop being able to function if it was cosmic levels lol
fr
Dude powerscaling is a form of debate that can be ignored entirely it has no effect on the lore
the playable area is limited to the generated world, everything should remain within that
or its just stuid
So anyways
Scal is city level which is what cei has admitted for wanting scal level people to be
Powerscaling is there but its not that focused on which is good imo
Mhm
Theres so many fucking characters who would just end the world instantly if they could
I don't know, it's kind of strange to me, because the moonlord in the Calamity Lore is very different from the moonlord in normal Terraria.
it would be really crap if like gulp shitto could destroy the entire canvas
terraria doesnt even have canon lore LMFAO
The moonlord in normal Terraria is stupidly powerful
its new everytime red has a drink
Almost like thats the idea of the change to power
Also vanilla ML makes zero sense powerscaling wise
Moonlord
Dog
Providence
Calclone
Noxus
it took all the dryads to seal him
Wow. A bunch of plants.
because killing him was impossible
Calamity lore is completely seperate from vanilla lore
its completely unrelated

Except when we do it
thats like the anti-sandbox
moonlord in normal terraria is like, universal
He’s not in his prime
real
He literally cant be otherwise he'd snap his fingers and you'd die
I don’t even agree with that lol
p
Wow a single civilisation on a single planet can end the universe??
Logical
the game is literally constrained to your world
Vanilla powerscaling is horribly out of... uh, scale? I guess thats the word for it
Magic is meaningless, don't try to understand it
why should the lore extend out of it
based on what 💔
except for like flavour text
I can see base game Moon Lord being like a moon level/planetary level threat but the powerscaling and lore in Terraria is deliberately open ended and ambiguous it’s difficult to make concrete calls like that
Hehe moon level
say that again...
moon lord can't destroy dirt but a copper pickaxe can meaning copper pickaxe scales higher!
it's so gg!
It's just that he's a danger to existence.
Calamity has a lot of thought into its lore
And that lore cant function if even the higher end guys like prime moonlord can end the world
FTW skelwtron prime can meaning hes stronger
quote
same
for all I know, all vanilla has about moonlord is that he's "the mastermind of all evils befalling terraria", as in, he's the biggest bad
its vague
I have a question, who is the skeleton salesman that appears in the cave?
which fits it being a sandbox
what "terraria" is isn't defined, we know not of it being a planet, a universe, or a multiverse, or anything akin to that
in vanilla
It took like 400 galaxies to imprison him which makes zero sense because then the dryad is mutli-galaxy
?
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So I’m not vindicating base Moon Lord would be planet level but see, in normal Terraria’s case it would make sense because ML is the literal peak of the game so having the final boss being able to end the planet would be fine
In Calamity’s case, so much more comes after ML and if they were all planet level, as someone said so many creatures and characters could just end the planet entirely lmao
Based on the ffragments tooltips
so true
it could be constrained to the playable area but as background elements
"Terraria" is also alive. It doesnt contribute much to anything but is alive
It really is up to interpretation, I’ve always just seen “Terraria” being the name of the world, that’s just my personal hc
also id find it really funny if they replaced all mention of terraria in lore items with your world name
I think thats implied, because terrarium
Yeah
Terraria is name of planet
World name is name of the continent we play in iirc
Hence why ceis headcanon name of heartlands is seperate from terraria
Trying to actually make sense of vanilla lore power wise isnt really possible because it jumps up and down when you read into it
the game refers to the world name as the name of the world, though ig the interpretation differs
at the end of the game 2 million terrarians show up to fight yharim
a really funny idea
i really want the rest of the world to have names similar to the procedurally generated ones
consistent and really fucking funny

hydrogen bomb vs coughing baby
1 of every terrarian vs Yharim
yes we named the continent plateau of femboys why do you ask?
anyways, the bulk of vanilla's scaling is tooltips describing things such as the solar fragment holding "the fury of the universe" within itself or "nebula fragment stating that it holds the "power of a galaxy" within itself, and a bunch more, and you can very easily argue these to be hyperbolic (especially given Red's [stance on lore statements](#lore-discussion message) )
My face when yharim invades blushful patch of legs (yes thats a name ihad come across)
based tbh
Yharim the type of mf to reprimand all of Draedon’s work just cuz he put a pipebomb in a beehive
thats so funny and consistent with terraria
XD
its stuff like that that makes shit feel tonally strong and lived in
even if its really odd in and out of context
I get the idea but, "planet level" is defined as being able to destroy a planet, the value used as a standard for it in calculations is the gravitational binding energy of the earth (basically, the energy you'd need to overcome if you wanna destroy the planet with 1 blow), you don't need to be that strong to be world-ending
need I remind all of you, the world's entire nuclear stockpile would only be island level in the tiering system
and that is definitely a worldwide disaster if unleashed
The other continents should randomly generate a name on world creation using the same system as the random one
FUCK YEAH
if only we got to explore all of them?
mod idea alert
literally scope creep the mod
You go to the continent that kills you and then it kills you
It was definitely a more generalized and simplified way of looking at it but this is true. You can cause world threatening impacts in different ways than others without completely undoing the planet altogether. It was more so to debunk the argument with that one dude before and how planet level in Calamity just wouldn’t make sense
like EE but tyeski and co seem to actually be able to manage even if its a sisyphean effort
while that would be pretty cool yea thatd be scope creep the mod
now, I guess there are far more powerful (as in energy) things that haven't caused a worldwide disaster, say, valdivia's earthquake in 1960, that thing yielded so much more energy but it wasn't quite a worldwide disaster (it was still nothing short of horrific and it did have extremely wide effects), but that's also because the energy is focused differently than a nuclear explosion
like just going to actually civilised places isnt like
hm
I mean who's to say the rest of the world would exactly be welcoming to us to begin with
I do think planet level calamity, as in the actual definition of planet level, wouldn't make much sense; world-ending threats do make sense though (and there are some, noxus is potentially one, fovos/moonlord is, or at least was in the past)
i do think that cal should have configurable lore naming settings, like those of other continents, azafure, and the like
Terrarians forward!
Exactly. If many of the characters, batshit and morally corrupt had that power so many of them could and would destroy the planet
while this would be a gigantic effort i do think it would fit terraria being a sandbox
Yharim dropping the truth nuke (scal) on the haters (ilmeris trying to live)
I'd think fovos/moon Lord is a civilization ending event, not quite planetary, if there is an actual difference between those
and add a lot to the environmental storytelling
would be neat but imo wouldnt fit calamity itself
maybe a different mod thats also lore focused
fair
it does rely on a fixed canon
though i think a DF-lite history generation mod could actually be interesting
the alternative could be just very fixed presets but
at that point there isnt much reason
like elite enemies with a pre-generated history, same with npcs. its all flavour-text but it would at least make every world distinct
Well he posed a massive threat to the dragons and was powerful enough to make a huge difference
Zeratros gonna be feeling that one in the morning
Fr
Prime moonlord can beat noxus in a fight and has a portable army
That one actually blew my mind until someone pointed out that moonlord is more important lorewise
I can agree with him being able to beat Noxus. Marginally tho
Also the fact that moonlord is a fucking menace when it comes to not giving up
Literally where is its organs
Whered the bottom half go
How is it alive
Whered its skull go how is that healthy
The dragons tore it apart and locked its remains on the moon to rot away for several hundred years
Crippled Fovos
It not giving up is why they had to seal it away
And its still among the strongest things on the planet
Eldritch abomination too angry to die
i think the really absurd part is
noxus has been gaining the essences of gods n stuff
Fr
Providence is only barely stronger than it
ml? just straight up balling with strength
Did they confirm this?
Or just head canon
well no but like
Dog has to be taking it somewhere

yes
Probably just into the distortion
yeah no dog is actually just dumping it randomly in the distortion obviously
half right
it's implied he has a portal to the distortion inside of him
Dog is the lacky of noxus
Dog eats god essence and it has to go somewhere
Where could it be going
draetalk
FUCK
i mean
I’ve asked before but
How strong was Xeroc as a monk, and the other monks
A lot of implications but the lore writers haven't explicitly said so that's all I'm saying 😋
is there anything stopping dog from just
dog is presumed (at least) to be serving a stronger being by like both yharim is and draedon i think
📖
how do i keep getting cucked by draetalk so often
he doesnt need a permanent portal in him he could just make one himself temporarily
Cause I also missed the update and haven't played to see the new content yet 😂
"new content"
oooohhhhh you want to play calamity.........





