lore-discussion

[pulsar ocean]

Adult or in general

[vestal badge]

general..

omg.. is that minos...

[robust osprey]

dragon offshot that lives in abyss

and usually fights against shork iirc

and uh that's it

[calm patio]

yes that is minos prime

[vestal badge]

so pretty much no lore, AWESOME

i was hoping for an explanation for why it was so OP

[robust osprey]

it's an animal

if you want adult eidolon wyrm lore

[pulsar ocean]

It's a dragon

[vestal badge]

OH

okay that makes sense

[robust osprey]

big worm that lived so long that got blessed by silva which was thrown there

basically silva's dog

[vestal badge]

ooh aweosmeee

[robust osprey]

(it's not auric btw just normal dragon)

[pulsar ocean]

How did Silva bless big wyrm if he's at the bottom of the abyss

[robust osprey]

silva's body is at the bottom

[pulsar ocean]

Wouldn't she get crushed by pressure

[robust osprey]

I din't think an elemental could get crushed by pressure

[mighty zenith]

no she's kinda like

immortal

[vestal badge]

can i get a reminder on silva's powers

oh

[pulsar ocean]

That's lame

[mighty zenith]

elemental of nature

first dryad

[vestal badge]

ooh ty

[mighty zenith]

goddess of life

[robust osprey]

also goddess of life

[mighty zenith]

ye

[vestal badge]

Grr wait who banished the moonlord in calamity again?

it was all the dragons right?

[robust osprey]

auric dragons yeah

[mighty zenith]

the ones that survived yeah

[pulsar ocean]

What if the reason xeroc did nothing for 800 years after his ascension is because he doesn't have wings to fly out of the sun to the planet

[magic epoch]

i am very sure he didn't do nothing

[pulsar ocean]

What did he do

[magic epoch]

they trained after becoming a god I know that much

[pulsar ocean]

So nothing substantial

Pushups and sit-ups

[robust osprey]

beating up aliens probbaly

[dark sundial]

All the auric dragons used their powers to banish moon lord

Prime moon lord is like top 2 in cal lore only losing to xeroc

The moon lord we fight is a weakened moon lord

[vestal badge]

moon lord prime

what about the cultist?

ive already red the lore- i just need a reminder

because its so awesome

[robust osprey]

the cult is a dragon cult

lunatic is the current keeper of ml seal

and worked with the yhar at some point

yharim trashed all the prisioners into the dungeon

[pliant ruin]

not what hes called

[robust osprey]

jared

[cloud ibex]

“Hey guys”
“ADULT WYRM”
“NOT WHAT I’M CALLED”

[mighty zenith]

JANETTE

[pliant ruin]

his name is PRIMORDIAL wyrm ‼️

[wheat walrus]

bingus

[strange stump]

holy shit

its adult eidolon wyrm

[cloud ibex]

That’s the one

[pulsar ocean]

Have you guys ever seen me and primordial wyrm in the same room?

Think about it

[cosmic minnow]

It used to be called that

Long ago

[cloud ibex]

Yes that’s part of the joke

[stark basalt]

yo

can we like

come to realize

how hard making lore must be

like you have to remember every small little detail as to not make contradictory points and or plot holes

like big w for the lore writer

[analog robin]

It’s easier if you write it all down

I’m more impressed with Draedon’s dialogue ngl

Uses a lot of very technical terms but almost all of them are real things and used properly in context

[stark basalt]

if the doc that explains only what we know is 102 pages...

[mighty zenith]

yea it couldve been very easy to just make him say random tech bullshit

but anything that isnt literally fictional (like exotechnology) is scientifically accurate, its awesome

[stark basalt]

yeah bro why cant draedon come to earth

[mighty zenith]

he is on the planet the game takes place*

*not called earth

[cloud ibex]

I’m not sure if you want that

[stark basalt]

ik

like

draedon

coming to the world we live on

called earth

[mighty zenith]

it would not end well

[cloud ibex]

Then again iunno if there’s much of anything here he’d be interested in

[stark basalt]

nahhh nah trust

[stark basalt]

mariana trench

abyss 2.0

[mighty zenith]

the abyss is more interesting probably

[pliant ruin]

its like the abyss but with less horrors

and dead gods

[mighty zenith]

i wanna say our stars would interest him

[pliant ruin]

actually maybe the mariana trench has more dead gods

[cloud ibex]

He might just come here, see that we’re much less technologically advanced than him, see that we have no magic and leave cause there’s nothing for him to discover

[mighty zenith]

since they do work differently to cal's stars

[pliant ruin]

we know of 1 dead god in the abyss the mariana trench probably has more than that

[stark basalt]

who knows whats in the mariana trench

YO

hear me out

the best thing this world could have is being able to fight a fucking aquatic scourge

draedon pleaseeeee

[pliant ruin]

i dont think draedon is responsible for the existence of aquatic scourge

[stark basalt]

ik

but he could make some thingamabobs

as he does

[pliant ruin]

he could make the device

[mighty zenith]

the device?!?!?!!

deltarune reference

[pliant ruin]

ngl this isn't even the hard part

not being contradictory or having plot holes is easy

its making it actually narratively satisfying that's hard

[robust osprey]

no.

[stark basalt]

on top of everything else like how does one do that

w rebecca

[pliant ruin]

i LOVE spending hours thinking about how the plot interacts with the symbolic themes and motifs of the story and pondering whether any given event has both a in-universe and narrative reason for happening and

help me

[stark basalt]

wait

wait nvm

[snow mountain]

plastic bags:

[pliant ruin]

writing is a game of constantly asking yourself "why" until you don't have a answer and then you sit in there like this

[pliant ruin]

not the image i wanted but this works

im so cool.

mods dont look at my deleted messagew. Thanks

[young socket]

tenor.com

[split mortar]

Why

[robust osprey]

melon appearance

[young socket]

its the catboy

damn

already gone

[robust osprey]

melongun jumpscare

[wheat walrus]

fucking ghost

[eager bluff]

coke posts sticker
looks inside
boykisser cafe
checks out

[thick slate]

mreow

[young socket]

nya

[thick slate]

what do u expect from me :<

[eager bluff]

exactly that

[dusk laurel]

🗜️

[pliant ruin]

[wheat walrus]

holy shit

[dusk laurel]

i saw that

[wheat walrus]

for a second I saw a melon and then you modified it

[thick slate]

melon....

[snow mountain]

its almost like a gun

[hoary cape]

Melongun emote

[pulsar ocean]

Melon

[crystal pendant]

Blows up melon with mind

[pulsar ocean]

Where did melon gun go

[pliant ruin]

break from discord

studying for finals iirc

[dusk laurel]

^

[violet sparrow]

is there new draedon dialogue since he came out

i need to know what works and what doesnt

[swift ferry]

the new codebreaker dialogues after you beat him and craft an exo weapon rite

[dusk laurel]

idk if this is still new since its been more than a year already

[violet sparrow]

relatively

id look at the wiki but id have no idea where to look

[cloud ibex]

Codebreaker page

[violet sparrow]

okay well i know NOW

okay nvm codebreaker dialogue is there

holy yap

some of the codebreaker stuff could do with a once over for redundant exposition but at least that can be done at any point

[final bison]

how much ptsd do you think the terrarian has in calamity

or at least does he have the 1000 yard stare

[shy star]

definetly has it

[final bison]

1 minute with dog

[shy star]

would dog be racist

[pliant ruin]

dog is adaptatively discriminatory

he is whatever is most offensive to whoever hes fighting

he CAN be racist

[long bloom]

"whatever political view you have, i have the opposite"

[final bison]

yo emperor why do you have an only fans in your bio

[shy star]

its

a

prank thing

[pliant ruin]

le epic bait

[final bison]

cookie logger?

[shy star]

nah

jumpscare

[final bison]

im not touching it anyway

[pliant ruin]

this is lore as FUCK

[fierce pagoda]

Are Dragons the most likely culprit of shattering the world soul?

like they shattered it themselves so that they could take its power

[final bison]

i mean the moon lord was low diffing every dragon

they had no choice

as far as i remember

[fierce pagoda]

pretty sure they shattered it long before moonlord came

[pliant ruin]

they were already auric far before yes

[long bloom]

we have literally zero information about the world soul other than
-it existed
-it shattered
-it empowered the dragons

[fierce pagoda]

I know, but given what information we do have

don't Dragons seem like the most likely group that shattered the World soul?

Because who else could have shattered it? Maybe Noxus?

[final bison]

what i wanna kno wis who the hell is noxus

[fierce pagoda]

or some other 3rd thing weve never heard of

[final bison]

and whos xeroc again?

hes the monk that bassically scattered the auric soul everywhere

turning some people into "gods"

right?

[fierce pagoda]

Xeroc was a monk who absorbed the Auric soul of Zeratros, the Dragon of pimordial light

and became the first god

hes also the strongest god

[final bison]

and did yharim absorb an auric soul or did he just get as strong as the gods while still keeping yharon alive?

[fierce pagoda]

He consumed the soul through a specific ritual, and him consuming Zeratro's soul inspired a bunch of other people to hunt dragons and consume their souls

[final bison]

ohh and thats what caused the extinction of dragons

[fierce pagoda]

Yharim is just strong on his own, and he attuned his soul with Yharons, thus allowing him to use and wear Auric

[fierce pagoda]

yesh

[long bloom]

xeroc uses they/them
friendly psa

[fierce pagoda]

theythemmers

[final bison]

goddamn they them WOURIC soul consumers...

woke calamity

GAYdron

[long bloom]

yeah and if you're not attuned then auric just fucking explodes you

[final bison]

WOKric souls

LGBTQgen

permafrost

[fierce pagoda]

and just in-case, Consuming an auric souls and being attuned to a dragon are two different things

[final bison]

BIron

also how did yharim find permafrost

did he find him in a ditch somewhere and decided hes the strongest wizard of all time or

[long bloom]

and noxus is the top dog of the distortion, an eldrich sub-dimension
they made ceasless void and possibly dog

[fierce pagoda]

Permafrost heard of Yharims crusades and was like "yo i like that your killing evil gods can i get a job"

[long bloom]

permafrost joined yharim's army as his advisor

[fierce pagoda]

and Yharim was like "hell yeah"

[long bloom]

and left after yharim ordered calamitas to cook ilmeris

[fierce pagoda]

oopsie

[final bison]

aaand who t he fuck is ilmeris

[long bloom]

place

[spare pier]

He/they but yeah

[final bison]

oh ilmeris is uhh

[fierce pagoda]

Ilmeris is the sunkean sea kingdom

or USED TO BE

[final bison]

azafure before it became like that right?

oh

[long bloom]

was formerly where the desert is now

[final bison]

yikes....

i feel like our role as the player is just

bring the consequences of everyones actions

and throw it at them at mach fuck

[fierce pagoda]

The Terrarion lore is up to YOU!🫵

[final bison]

well thats how i think

[long bloom]

it is 100% your choice who you want the player to be

[final bison]

seeing as yharon is warning yharim that we are getting too strong

[wheat walrus]

Xeroc's pronouns are up to you 🫵

[final bison]

and yharim talking like he wants us to kill him

[long bloom]

actually that's draedon

[final bison]

so im guessing were the harbringer of death

[wheat walrus]

Both

[fierce pagoda]

I don't think Yhairm wants us to kill him, hes more like "if you wanna challenge me, come get it"

hes not like suicidal i dont think

[wheat walrus]

I have an idea

[fierce pagoda]

and he will kill you if he can

[long bloom]

that's interesting, i've only ever seen devs use they/them

[long bloom]

yharim wants you to be his successor

[fierce pagoda]

see, its legal to call Xeroc a he

[long bloom]

and finish the crusade

[fierce pagoda]

yeah thats what it was

Too bad the game doesnt let us

[long bloom]

you won't, but he's delusional

[fierce pagoda]

but you can headcanon it if you want to

[wheat walrus]

Check bio now

[long bloom]

lol

[wheat walrus]

I've seen devs use they, he and at one point even it

[final bison]

honestly i dont give two shits about pronouns

[wheat walrus]

That's where my joke came from

[long bloom]

my dream is a list of pronouns for every named character

[wheat walrus]

Fair nuff

[final bison]

im killing them all either way lol

[fierce pagoda]

theory: The Devs used "he" accidentally too much so they just changed it from They/them to He/they to make it easier for them

[wheat walrus]

This while we're talking abt Xeroc

[long bloom]

we are now sworn enemies due to our opposite ideals

[wheat walrus]

😔

[final bison]

except calamitas shes a girl lol

and im pretty sure she doesnt know any better

[wheat walrus]

She's just a girl 😔

[long bloom]

r/letgirlsburnkingdoms

[fierce pagoda]

Calamitas just got fucked over by life and then some more by Yharim and now everyone hates her and its not even properly her fault, i mean she did directly cook Ilmeris but she was manipulated, but still its kinda fucked up she did that

"she was just following orders" yeah wonder where I've heard that before

[long bloom]

real and true

[fierce pagoda]

Complex and difficult situation to judge, but uhh

kinda crazy how Amidias is so quick to forgive her?

like does he know all that? or is he just chill like that

[long bloom]

all amidias dialogue is being replaced in sso so hopefully that changes too

[fierce pagoda]

Right, but a part of me feels like that will stay

[long bloom]

yeahhhh

[fierce pagoda]

his forgiving of Scal

"I must admit, the Witch's presence is unsettling to me. But so many years have passed, and she too has suffered much."

okay so hes not completely over it

but it looks like hes just not angry anymore

[cloud ibex]

i feel like he might understand the situation she was in and the fact that she's regretful over it but still like

feels weird about having the woman who put his home in a pressure cooker living next door

[fierce pagoda]

that really puts it into perspective

[final bison]

me when my master tells me to nuke a kingdom with my catastrophic powers (i had no choice i was following orders)

image of her having the time of her life destroying said kingdom

[fierce pagoda]

I wonder what kind of crazy manipulation techniques Yharim was pulling in order to make her do that

[final bison]

yharim probably kept telling her no balls everytime she says no to one of his orders

[spring helm]

Do it for the vine

[dark sundial]

Yharim turned Calamitas into a mindless super soldier

Ss isnt all her fault

[fierce pagoda]

true it isnt all her fault of course

dont think anyone disagrees on that

[dark sundial]

Imagine that you get groomed since a very young age to kill everything your boss orders you to kill

[fierce pagoda]

lowkey you'd still be a bad person though cuz like you still killed those people

[dark sundial]

Her sealing permafrost was after her evaporating lumeris right?

[fierce pagoda]

"I was just following orders! I'm innocent!"

[dark sundial]

She was like 11 when yharim took her so in her mind she was doing the right thing

Bcs yharim manipulated her

So ye she tought she was doing good things and not bad things

[fierce pagoda]

true she is still a victim in all of this

but so are the gazillion people she murked

its a difficult situation

[dark sundial]

I think that she started to doubt all this shit when yharim asked her to kill cryogen

[unborn wind]

why did calamitas just not get groomed and brainwashed by the man who saved her as a child fresh off the heels of violently losing her remaining family members? is she stupid?

[dark sundial]

Bcs cryogen was the only father figure calamitas had

[dark sundial]

She was groomed and brainwashed

[fierce pagoda]

yeah why didnt she just NOT get brainwashed and groomed? is she tupid?

[dark sundial]

She was rly young

She didnt know shit

And yharim is a great manipulator

[spare pier]

(It's a joke)

[fierce pagoda]

Da whole situation is just a tragedy and you cant pin all the blame on one person, but you cant call anyone innocent either, y'know?

[unborn wind]

calamitas is clearly irredeemably evil i mean like if i was a little kid who grew up surrounded by war and death and my entire family died and the most powerful man in the world took me in and took advantage of my grief, i would have just said "nuh uh" if he ordered me to do bad things

[dark sundial]

Calamitas is not a evil character she is a broken character

[dark sundial]

Thats your mind nowadays but she was rly young

[unborn wind]

i am being extremely, heavily sarcastic

[dark sundial]

Maybe she was even younger than 11 years old

[dark sundial]

Oh

[spare pier]

I think you can definitely put the blame on the guy who manipulated a child

[dark sundial]

Ye

[unborn wind]

the child he groomed should have just not did what he was actively grooming her to do smh

[dark sundial]

When i saw calamitas lore i just wanted to hug her i would die? Probably

[fierce pagoda]

Young german child grew up in an envioment where he is fed nothing but propaganda and was taken advantage of by adults that feed him lies, then inevitably to grows up to become a Nazi and partakes in the genocide of the jews. but when he learns of his wrong doings he stops, and his defence on the trials are "I was just following orders!"

Sure you were manipulated and forced to believe lies, but you still did bad things, and you cant expect to be forgiven for it, nor can you call the people who hate you wrong. Thats what i think about the Scal situation.

[unborn wind]

i felt so bad for her that i couldnt bring myself to just shove her in another box wit hthe rest of my npcs

[unborn wind]

okay first off can you not immediately compare calamitas from calamity mod to the fucking holocaust secondly i dont think she has literally ever tried to excuse what she did or expected anyone to forgive her

[fierce pagoda]

I wouldn't call it a stretch to say Scal is partly guilty for what happened at illmeris, how old was she when she blasted Ilmeris anyways?

[dark sundial]

She know she did alot of bad things and she feel alot of regret at the point that using magic just cause her pain

And suffering

[wheat walrus]

Oh dawg

[dark sundial]

Me if i found her as a child XD

[fierce pagoda]

i was using it as an example of how you can't call people wrong for not seeing Scal as 100% innocent. not that Scal ever said shes innocent herself

[unborn wind]

You can do that without immediately jumping to nazi comparisons dude jesus christ

[dark sundial]

I never said she is 100% inoccent

[fierce pagoda]

it was a strong comparison to make since it drives home the point instantly

[long bloom]

i just got here but i think i'm gonna leave now

[wheat walrus]

Cal having done horrible things is obvious, as is Yharim being the undeniable bigger bad here.

"Cal did nothing wrong" is wrong but Yharim did far more wrong

[dark sundial]

Not even her thinks that

[spare pier]

Wait this image is fucking awesome

[dark sundial]

She blames her for all the bad things she did

[wheat walrus]

As for Cal being ir/redeemable, what they said w terrarian lore, "up to you" or smth

[fierce pagoda]

but like if Scal was still underage the whole damn time so she's actally very much innocent and a victim

[unborn wind]

i was being sarcastic because ive genuinely seen people call calamitas irredeemably evil which i think is insane and you come in here with nazi comparisons like dude take it a step back

[wheat walrus]

Anyways

[fierce pagoda]

no i wont take a step back

[dark sundial]

I mean yharim did things comparable to the mustache guy

[fierce pagoda]

because you always have to march forwards am i right or am iright

[unborn wind]

is anyone else seeing this

[cloud ibex]

what

[fierce pagoda]

alright that was a very poor choice of words

i meant like you always have to move forward, never give up type shit

[wheat walrus]

tldr, Scal did wrong but is also a victim, Yharim did wrong but is not a victim here

Patch note: righting my wrong

[dark sundial]

Wtf?

Yharim is a genocidal irredemeable asshole

[wheat walrus]

Holy shit

How did I butcher it

THIS

Badly

[swift ferry]

Oopsie

[wheat walrus]

Anyways now

Was gonna say

[fierce pagoda]

Basically Yharim is so cool and has cool armor so hes innocent for me, but Scal is a bum her loot is mid compared to exo mechs so shes irredeemably evil and not innocent

[cloud ibex]

yharim will be sentenced to the infinite recycler loop (endlessly destroyed and reconstructed at a 25% chance until he has been reduced to nothingness)

[wheat walrus]

Yall maybe dont yap abt some holocaust, I get the idea but I wouldn't be surprised if people were put off by it

[fierce pagoda]

I agree

and it wasnt yall, it was all me

im sorry

[wheat walrus]

Aight Colgator

🪥🐊

[cloud ibex]

yeag this channel is already 99% of the alerts for the word hitler in the server because of yharim but i think comparing the calamity mod for terraria to the actual real world holocaust is a bit far i think

[fierce pagoda]

💣 🐊 chomp 💥

[cloud ibex]

anyway

[wheat walrus]

Green Rathalos VS Xeroc

[dark sundial]

My new walpaper

[swift ferry]

I do think it's a valid point that we don't tend to forgive those who are victims of propaganda when they end up committing horrible atrocities all the same - so like amidias's reaction makes total sense. In fact it's a little surprising he's not more put off by her than he is lol he's surprisingly forgiving

[cloud ibex]

would xeroc be capable of writing a good cv

[wheat walrus]

Dunno what cv stands for here

[swift ferry]

Ceaseless Void

[cloud ibex]

curriculum vitae

[wheat walrus]

Oh

[cloud ibex]

as in like

[fierce pagoda]

I read up on Rathalos and it looks life Xeroc Negdiff im sorry

[cloud ibex]

a description of you and your job history

[wheat walrus]

But this is GREEN Rathalos

[cloud ibex]

would xeroc be able to write a good job application basically

[dark sundial]

Luffy neg diffs xeroc

[wheat walrus]

Incredible

[fierce pagoda]

ok i did resreach on Green Rathalos, and you were right, its Green rathalos sweep

[wheat walrus]

🔥

[fierce pagoda]

no Luffy isnt even continental

[dark sundial]

He is

[fierce pagoda]

like barely island level with ages of charging up bajrang gun

[wheat walrus]

One Piece powerscaling

[dark sundial]

Bayoneta neggs xeroc

[wheat walrus]

🚡

[fierce pagoda]

I dont know squat about Bayonetta

but she seems like building level, only due to her weapons. but if she like has some crazy hax abiliets then idk

[dark sundial]

Bayoneta is basicaly the female version of dante from devil may cry

[wheat walrus]

I think dimensional scaling is involved

[fierce pagoda]

ok im ending it all

[dark sundial]

Bayonetta scales to at least universal level

[wheat walrus]

Atrocious term

[fierce pagoda]

WHAT the hell

[dark sundial]

She fights literal god

[fierce pagoda]

like from feats? or like lore scaling

yeah bro terrarian fights gods too but u dont see us blowing up galaxies

[dark sundial]

A biblic representation of god

[fierce pagoda]

weak ass god then if woman with guns can kill it

[dark sundial]

Bayoneta is comparable to dante

In power

[fierce pagoda]

sorry but i like Dante more so she is a fraud to me automatically

[young socket]

normal jrpg tbh

[dark sundial]

Both are from the same creator

So ye

[fierce pagoda]

wait if shes comparable to dante hwo the hell is she universal?

when the hell has Dante ever been unniversal?

[dark sundial]

Universal lowballing her

Dante can be scaled to even multiversal level

As well her

[wheat walrus]

Dimensional Scaling guys

[fierce pagoda]

i dont buy it

[dark sundial]

Jrpg power scalling is bullshit just know that

[fierce pagoda]

not a SINGLE ON SCREEN FEAT from ANY DMC game suggests that dante is anywhere NEAR universal

this is like Kratos vs wooden chest stuff

[wheat walrus]

Anyways 99% of uni and above characters or even verses show abt 0 onscreen feats and are all statements

[dark sundial]

Kratos is universal level confirmed and you dont see him blowing universes

[fierce pagoda]

"bro kratos is outerversal bro trust me" proceeds to fist fight a bear and almost loses

[wheat walrus]

I'm fine w it but I can understand the disassociation

[dark sundial]

Ye

Barely any universal+ characters has feats shown its most statements

Goku is multiversal level but he never destroyed a multiverse

[fierce pagoda]

Goku my goat with concrete on screen universal feats😌

but even then Goku got help from Beerus so even that barely counts

[dark sundial]

UI sign goku made the whole null dimension shake

Just with his aura alone

[fierce pagoda]

you just had to say that

[wheat walrus]

I will start powerscaling Monster Hunter based on symbolisms and mythologies to get every elder dragon to high outer and be a bitch abt it

[fierce pagoda]

"guys let me use my shaking to destroy this unniverser"

what the hell does that even mean

[wheat walrus]

Infinite/2 = Infinite

Doe

[dark sundial]

You guys know that cthulu is a bullshit broken character like universal level

But he never showed a universal feat its all statements

[fierce pagoda]

the goku shaking the infinite void feat is the most emtpy feat of all time

[wheat walrus]

To be fair, it is presented as a demonstration of power

[fierce pagoda]

true, but to use it to suggest he can blow up multiverses is reaching to hell and back

[wheat walrus]

Pointed out, and then Beerus goes "he's coming" and we get Goku tapping into the technique of the gods for the first time

[dark sundial]

For example doom slayer is also multiversal level he defeated literal God and the Devil

[wheat walrus]

Honestly, AP≠DC or whatever the rock band was

[dark sundial]

Also biblical representations

[fierce pagoda]

"he shaked the infinite void" WHAT DOES THAT EVEN MEAN

weak ass representations then

[wheat walrus]

Gojo loses is what it means

[dark sundial]

Japanese characters scaling is bullshit just accept that

[fierce pagoda]

Gojo loses regardless, isnt a single thing Gojo can do that goku can react to

[dark sundial]

It is what is

[fierce pagoda]

no i wont

[wheat walrus]

Powerscaling discussion,,,

[dark sundial]

For example jhonny from jojo part 7 is universal level

[wheat walrus]

Only the inf rotation is

[dark sundial]

Tusk act 4 infinite rotation nail traveled infinite dimensions to hit valentine in lovetrain

[wheat walrus]

And that's the trickiest ass attack ever

[fierce pagoda]

i don't take no statement scaling, no vague lore scaling. I see feats for myself, and if it doesnt add up, I don't buy it.

i took that from one image i saw

[wheat walrus]

Calamity is now City Block Level

🔥

[fierce pagoda]

yeah bro let me just use my infinity spin to destroy the whole universe

[dark sundial]

So if jhonny fought gojo gojo would just see pink fridge opening his infinite void like a soda can

[fierce pagoda]

not how that works

[dark sundial]

And tusk would rotate gojo balls infinitely

[young socket]

actually he wouldnt see anything cuz hes not a stand user

[fierce pagoda]

maybe six eyes shenanigans can allow him to see stands

but probably not

[wheat walrus]

Ok that's a take, once again, Attack Potency isn't Destructive Capacity. If something has an infinite rotation, and can pierce through a barrier that redirects fate due to how the attack straight pierces through dimensions, maybe that's uni 💔

[dark sundial]

Valentine lovetrain is a dimensional barrier made from infinite dimensions

So tusk act 4 nail traveled infinite dimensions to hit valentine

[fierce pagoda]

yeah bro im universal bro, i spin forever

weakest shit ever

[dark sundial]

And when a infinite spin attack hits the oponent he rotates infinitely until he just pops out of existence

[spare pier]

W

What

[wheat walrus]

Holy shirt

[fierce pagoda]

its cool as shit, but it isnt cool because its "universal" or whatever

[spare pier]

Do you genuinely believe Goku loses to Gojo?

😭

[wheat walrus]

I think he typoed

[young socket]

i think they meant cant react to

[fierce pagoda]

oops i meant CANT

[spare pier]

Ok

Good

[young socket]

stupidecca didnt even read the first two words of that message

[dark sundial]

Jojo characters hax are just bullshit

[fierce pagoda]

no i should have doubled down and rage baited you

[wheat walrus]

But no actually Gojo wins

[spare pier]

https://cdn.discordapp.com/attachments/704694434964439071/1284577245796634675/cat_gets_splash_stupid_idot.gif

[wheat walrus]

Goku doesn't go through infinity he's overrated planet level and Gojo just gives him brain damage and hollow purple erases him

Trust

[fierce pagoda]

did anyone ever in history see tusk act4's infinite spin and think "holy shit guys a universal feat!!!". like, how did infinite spinning give you the impression that he has a universal level of power

I didn't feel a lick of "universal tier" energy from Johnny that day

[wheat walrus]

You and others 🚡

[fierce pagoda]

I felt the golden spin

[fierce pagoda]

🪤

[wheat walrus]

🚡

[dusk laurel]

helicopter

[fierce pagoda]

🏳️‍🌈

[wheat walrus]

Powerscaling based on how the matchup would go narratively speaking lowkey should be done more, I guess it means that usually there's no debate (and some don't get a concrete answer), but I think it'd be cool,,,

[fierce pagoda]

Powerscaling where the fight would is cool as shit is what i wanna see

[wheat walrus]

True

[fierce pagoda]

I just keep thinking of this one manga i read

when the weak fighters fight, we get the best fights ever

but when the strongest and best fighters fight, we get boring and slow "technical" and "look how skilled they are!!!!11" fights

outverversal character vs outerversal character: 😴

Street tier vs street tier: 🤩

[wheat walrus]

Lemme js replicate that one time I thought of DoG VS Alatreon (or Fatalis) because seeing something like DoG interact with destructive, enigmatic and careless beings like MH's Forbidden Monsters

"A god does not fear death"
DoG after failing the elemental check (he just gave up, no fearing death):

[spare pier]

...

Couldn't he just dodge through a portal?

[wheat walrus]

He's stupid

[fierce pagoda]

🐌

[wheat walrus]

Also no farcasters

😔

[spare pier]

Good point

[wheat walrus]

Also at that point if portals are guy's only saving grace, how much of a win would that be

[spare pier]

I mean, it's Escaton

I know DoG is still losing but he could reasonably survive an Escaton

[fierce pagoda]

if DoG's lifespan is longer than Alatreon, Dog will win by outliving

fight to the death with no time limit moment

[wheat walrus]

We surviving the eschaton but not the mean ass flying dragonburst

We surviving sapphire but not the aimed laser

We also surviving the kalpa flame but not the charged fireball

🔥

[spare pier]

Tbf I think DoG vs Alatreon would be pretty close all things considered even if yeah

Alatreon still out-stats DoG

[wheat walrus]

I'd spam

[spare pier]

I just think DoG has enough abilities (and intelligence, surprisingly) to be able to put up a good fight

[fierce pagoda]

wait if alatreon is a monster hunter monster

doesnt that mean it loses to human hunters

[magic epoch]

"surprisingly" is crazy

[fierce pagoda]

in-game

[wheat walrus]

The only Forbidden Monster DoG has a winning chance against is Dire Miralis purely because the thing lacks flight, and even then it has the cannon things

[wheat walrus]

Human hunters that do insane shit on main and are considered exceptional even in-universe

You aint the sapphire star for no reason

[fierce pagoda]

I see

[wheat walrus]

And even still there's a major stat gap between you and monsters for more reasons than just gameplay

[fierce pagoda]

so if we like, give DoG the gear that a monster hunter uses, can he take down alatreon

[wheat walrus]

How are we giving DoG the gear

[fierce pagoda]

modding it

on him

[wheat walrus]

DoG would main Heavy Bowgun

😔

[fierce pagoda]

I will main Hammer because it looks cool

[wheat walrus]

Hammer cult

[dark sundial]

I find funny that all bosses on infernum are busted asf lorewise

[spare pier]

As much as I know your scalings are pretty reasonable I still think your Shara stuff is questionable so

[dark sundial]

Infernum uses the old lore right?

[wheat walrus]

Shara Ishvalda isn't even all there is 💔

[spare pier]

Yes but your Shara scaling is what props a lot of the shit way above Cal

[wheat walrus]

It's prolly the most destructive one, calc speaking because of the implications with crustal movements

[spare pier]

But even without counting that stuff, Alatreon still literally wipes out entire biomes incredibly quickly

[wheat walrus]

(it's actually Kushala Daora's 4U cutscene, get it right)

Anyways

Wasn't going off of goober scaling

[visual kiln]

hiiii chat

[dark sundial]

Who would win 100 calamitas or 1 xeroc?

[fierce pagoda]

hii

[visual kiln]

100 calamitas

[wheat walrus]

100 xeroc

[visual kiln]

i'd win

[fierce pagoda]

100 calamitas because the mod is named calamity and not Xerocity

[dark sundial]

100 DoG or 1 xeroc

[young socket]

1 xeroc because theyre like rlly strong n stuff and uhh

i uhh

[wheat walrus]

I will destroy a biome tonight

[spare pier]

Considering the obvious implication that Alatreon could wipe the Guiding Lands with an Escaton, and he can then use that like

[young socket]

dont remember wat the gorrila people said

[spare pier]

Fuck how many times does Alatreon use Escaton?

If you time out?

[wheat walrus]

As many as it wants

[wheat walrus]

Anyways it depends cause as Alatreon's health lowers, it cycles through faster and faster

[dark sundial]

1 billion aquatic scourge or 1 xeroc?

[fierce pagoda]

Thats it im gonna use my free npc name on the Tax collector, and name him Xeroc.

So he has a chance to be called Xeroc the Tax Collector.

[wheat walrus]

I know that on a very slow fight attempt (like 27 mins I think) it can get up to like 4-5 by the time it's dead

That's still not recommended unless you have a good enough plan with managing your faint count and somehow pull it off 💔

[spare pier]

I'm like, assuming what's the maximum amount of times Alatreon can use it before exhausting

Because that has to happen eventually

[young socket]

what

27 minutes

for one fight?

[wheat walrus]

Probably never given what we know about its energy

[spare pier]

So like, assuming 50 minutes fight

10 Escatons sounds like a decent guess

Not like anything is surviving 10 but

[wheat walrus]

Dive To MHWI clarifies on its nature of just constantly overflowing with energy, Eschaton Judgement is also not even used as an attack, it's a release of energy that it occasionally does, that switches it back to one of 2 main elements

[wheat walrus]

And as for 50 minutes, I checked on MHW (I remember this also being on Rise) and a friend checked on Wilds that 50 minutes = 24 hours ingame

So to add conversions

[spare pier]

I was just saying like, under a normal fight how many times can Alatreon do it?

[wheat walrus]

Yea that's the thing

[spare pier]

Byeah

Like

[wheat walrus]

It prolly can just do it once every unit of time until it dies

[young socket]

monster hunter

[wheat walrus]

Just based on what I know, it doesn't seem like it's meant to ever run low on energy

[fierce pagoda]

hunting monsters

can you eat the monsters in monster hunter

[wheat walrus]

Some

[spare pier]

Point is just that even if you take Alatreon's power at face value (Aka being able to wipe a whole biome with an Escaton, which is what I do), he still beats DoG

[fierce pagoda]

hells yeahs!

[spare pier]

I just think that makes the fight a lot more interesting and actually fairly close

[fierce pagoda]

im gonna eat some monsters

[wheat walrus]

Yharim if he just hired Alatreon to clean up the evils

[spare pier]

With Alatreon having some trouble getting through DoG's armor and not being able to hit Escaton on him

[wheat walrus]

Honestly I think DoG slowly realizing that he has no way of winning through attrition would be interesting to see

[spare pier]

I think the fight boils down to Alatreon eventually figuring out that shooting a fireball inside of DoG would be really good and then doing that when he got too cocky

[wheat walrus]

And given Alatreon's horribly persistent nature, DoG is likely not gonna get any peace unless it hides into the distortion

[wheat walrus]

DoG tries to jump at Alatreon and Alatreon just does the dragon burst thing

[fierce pagoda]

This monster hunter guy is sounding kinda crazy if he takes these dragons down daily😰

[wheat walrus]

Speedrunners:

[fierce pagoda]

calamity Terrarian vs The monster hunter

[wheat walrus]

Anyways there's a reason why Alatreon lore basically had book burnings

[spare pier]

Ok as much as everything we've been saying the Hunter just gets fucked

[fierce pagoda]

what the shrimp

[wheat walrus]

Hunter is in David VS Goliath scenarios, which likely wouldn't work w Terrarian

[dark sundial]

Vannilla terrarian is stronger than calamity terrarian? Lorewise

[spare pier]

The Terrarian just has 500 more things up their sleeves, flies and is also just way more mobile

The Hunter is, as the name says, a Hunter

[fierce pagoda]

So i can safely assume that the Terrarian also takes down every MH monster too?

[wheat walrus]

Probs

[spare pier]

Probably not Fatalis but honestly I could see the others

[dark sundial]

Terrarian having a armor made of pieces lf the sun

[wheat walrus]

Fatalis VS Calamitas 2025 edition

[dark sundial]

Or a armor made of pieces of a nebula

[fierce pagoda]

Do you kill Fatalis in Monster hunter gameplay?

[spare pier]

Yeah but Fatalis is still way too fucking strong

[fierce pagoda]

or would that lowkey be a spoiler

[spare pier]

Also you use multiple siege weapons

And all that shit

[wheat walrus]

You do but it's john dragon for a reason

[fierce pagoda]

so uhh Fatalis>Terrarian>Hunter>Fatalis>Terrarian....

ooops

[wheat walrus]

The only reason we don't get 1shotted is because we can gradually deal brain damage to it to prevent blue flames, and we still get 1shotted anyways

[fierce pagoda]

yeah pretty much

[wheat walrus]

Cockroach VS Fatalis

[spare pier]

I'm sending this image to show that this train of thought is silly

[fierce pagoda]

i knaur i was being silly gosh🙄

cant even be silly anymore

[wheat walrus]

Well tbf, that one's more like Human>Cockroach>Nuke>Human

100 Rajangs VS 1 Yharim

[fierce pagoda]

Do the Rajangs get spears

[spare pier]

Furious Rajang vs Yharim would be kinda fire actually

[wheat walrus]

Those would be useless 💔

[fierce pagoda]

they they lose

[wheat walrus]

But Furious Rajang can beat Fatalis 😔

Shit I failed to suppress the debate brainrot

[fierce pagoda]

Give me and bro a week of Spear training, and we will take down a Chimp

[spare pier]

Actually not really Furious Rajang would get fucked when you realize that it literally cannot damage Yharim without taking recoil 😭

[fierce pagoda]

i meant a rajang

[wheat walrus]

Alr Raging Brachydios then

Slime

[spare pier]

I mean, kinda the same thing

[wheat walrus]

But with more steps !

[fierce pagoda]

Yharim vs Gojo is a stalemate because they can never touch eachother

[wheat walrus]

Ruiner Nergigante VS Yharim because Ruiner lowk benefits from the recoil

[spare pier]

That'd be a banger fight true

[dark sundial]

If you guys found kid calamitas what you guys would do?

[wheat walrus]

Pepega Slam

[fierce pagoda]

I just imagine Yharim slicing it in two from his sword slash alone

like Sukunas world slash type shit

[wheat walrus]

The other cool Yharim matchup I think is Primordial Malzeno

[fierce pagoda]

probably not what would happen

[wheat walrus]

Knight dragon that does combos

If we include the Qurio either Yharim dies very fast the moment the final phase kicks in or he survives it and gets a good opening to finish it

[fierce pagoda]

eat her in one bite

😈 🐊

thats me biting her

[wheat walrus]

🚡

If only I had quote bot here

[dark sundial]

I would adopt her

[fierce pagoda]

why

[dark sundial]

Why not?

[fierce pagoda]

Because i ate her? duh

[dark sundial]

I would kill you before you could do that

Also i got a cousin from florida

[fierce pagoda]

too late i ate her

shes gone

we outta Calamitas

[craggy hinge]

Man i'm so hungry i could eat a Calamitas rn

[calm patio]

methinks i should clone her

[dark sundial]

I am the only good person here? XD

[craggy hinge]

those who know 💀 💀

[fierce pagoda]

🥭

[craggy hinge]

i did not know there was a mango emoji

[fierce pagoda]

🥭

you didnt know

[craggy hinge]

i am not those who know 😭 😭 😭 😭 👀

[slender marten]

Is there anything behind akato

yharons son

[magic epoch]

donor item iirc

= not canon

[fierce pagoda]

I don't think anyone's hiding behind Akato no

[slender marten]

I mean lore lol

[slender marten]

aight

[tidal karma]

how wouldnt yharim be touched

[red adder]

doesnt his armour just do auric rejection stuff

[spring helm]

yes

but i doubt that would stop hollow purple

not to mention it is possible to still hurt yharim

he pretty much admitted that statis would have killed him if DoG didn't step in

Statis' compatriot Braelor dueled me to a standstill. With our blades locked, the ronin lunged for the lethal blow.

[fierce pagoda]

Because uhhm it was a joke

[tidal karma]

well thats sad

[spring helm]

oh

[sinful adder]

I'd like to remind that even this is him exaggerating. It was not so much a standstill as it was him being seconds from death

[noble niche]

cheeseburger is canon to calamity mod

[pliant ruin]

No its not

Please dont spread misinformation

[neat tinsel]

is Sweden still canon or was it retconned

[sharp thunder]

sweden was incincerated by calamitas as practice before ilmeris

[long bloom]

retconned

[fierce pagoda]

What is the main theme and message of Calamity?

[thick slate]

life sucks

[thick slate]

glime sod

[pulsar ocean]

Don't listen to biased dragons

[thick slate]

if ur aroace u can shoot fireballs

[snow mountain]

wait what slime god is trans? i finally have representation!!

[thick slate]

genderflui

[snow mountain]

bugger thats not the same

[thick slate]

that's why they become girlmodd

yea but people think they sre mtf

cause king > queen

but when they were a person they were genderfluid

[mighty zenith]

i made this before slime god was revealed as genderfluid

[snow mountain]

yeah but slime god didn't create king slime

[snow mountain]

genderviscous

[thick slate]

oh mb i meant slime god > queen

[snow mountain]

its too loose tbh, we need something more concrete

this is very important

[thick slate]

gendersuperfluid

[snow mountain]

genderferrofluid

[thick slate]

gendereinstein-bose condesate

shoutout to einstein-bose condesate

gotta be my favourite state of matter

[mighty zenith]

gender me this batman

[snow mountain]

ravager is the most trans cal boss

i don't know why but

[thick slate]

cause transitioned from death to life

[snow mountain]

its gotta be trans

[cloud ibex]

also nb people can control the sun

[thick slate]

ofc

yall didnt know this

why do u think its so cloudy in england

i HATE england

[young socket]

but

thats not how it works

[thick slate]

yes it is

[young socket]

england doesnt get sun because its mostly cloudy

tupid

[thick slate]

if the sun was more concentrated

on england

it would be a desert

like australia

cause water cooks too quick

and plants hate that

[hoary berry]

[thick slate]

sorgy

i love england

england is the land of the smart people

they invented war crimes

and most modern wars

[snow mountain]

that would be canada

[thick slate]

actually war crimes were invented in switzerland

[stoic gulch]

I also hate England

You use water as seasoning

[thick slate]

england the typa country to spend centuries pillaging nations that invented spice

only to not use it

[untold oracle]

Wulfrum Glabgleeb

[smoky carbon]

no?

[stoic gulch]

It was a joke sorry

[smoky carbon]

😱

[pulsar ocean]

Heartlands is like England but you can see the sun

[snow mountain]

the united kingdom of great britain and northern ireland

[noble thunder]

why do these guys never add the missing bosses

[pliant ruin]

what missing bosses 😭

theres like. one

[noble thunder]

xeroc yharim idk

[pliant ruin]

and its the final boss

which is coming when the rest of the mod is finished

[noble thunder]

theres more than one

[pliant ruin]

there's two besides yharim but they're not guaranteed to be added

yharim is the only confirmed boss being added

[noble thunder]

ok

i dont think the mod is ever going to be finished tho

[untold oracle]

We aren’t even in SSO yet 💔

[pliant ruin]

unless it crashes and burns it will eventually

[noble thunder]

dk what that is

[pliant ruin]

theres plans for a end to the mods developemt cycle

[noble thunder]

ya

[pliant ruin]

SSO is the current major update being worked on, it's a complete overhaul to the sunken sea, reworking all of its worldgen to include many sub-biomes much like the abyss, several new and reworked enemies, a rework to Amidias alongside other NPCs and a new questline involving them, aswell as reworking all the associated items and adding new ones

[snow mountain]

we can also kiss amidias in the update

[pliant ruin]

besides the sunken sea stuff it will also add new worldgen and enemies to the desert and underworld, rework desert scourge, crabulon and slime god, a bunch of new enemies and weapons and all that stuff

there'll also be a new event bla bla bla its alot of stuff im tired of yapping

[pulsar ocean]

can i kill him

[snow mountain]

no, only kiss him

[pliant ruin]

can gorthus and amidias get fish yaoi

[pulsar ocean]

Gorthus is a fish?

[snow mountain]

i need this

it must be canon

[pliant ruin]

yea hes like a salmon

[snow mountain]

amidias birthing trumpet

[untold oracle]

Not to mention 1000000 weapon reworks

Also a shitton of lore

[robust osprey]

grrrr SSO is BAD beacuse there is no yharim or murasama rework!!!

[pliant ruin]

MORE WEAPON REWORKS

https://tenor.com/view/dont-cry-little-monster-dont-cry-bob-boys-hungry-eat-gif-3824779381532054672

[tall delta]

what if instead of being called sunken sea rework update it was called weapons reworks update

[magic epoch]

well its not called sunken sea rework update

it's called sunken sea ove

over...

...haul...

[tall delta]

I knew someone was going to correct me...

same thing💔

[strange stump]

hello

[fierce pagoda]

hii

[dusk laurel]

20% sunken sea, 80% overhaul

[magic epoch]

OV

[light linden]

@spare pier hey can I ask a question?

[spare pier]

Yeah sure

[untold oracle]

John space

[light linden]

which legendary weapon did you say weren't getting any lore?

[spare pier]

None

All of them are getting something

[light linden]

oh

I thought you said one wasn't

sorry

[spare pier]

Well, there's The Community

But that's a dedicated item

[light linden]

I think it was the sea's searing

thanks anyways

[strange stump]

its actually Johnson Friedrich Cosmos

:/

[eager bluff]

nope

community isnt dedicated

shattered community is, but not regular

[tidal karma]

it is

[eager bluff]

i am on the wiki right now it is not

[tidal karma]

it is

wiki outdated

[mighty zenith]

its dedicated to everyone

:3

[spare pier]

Jacob

Who do you think it's dedicated to?

[mighty zenith]

anahita obviously

why else would she drop it?

[wheat walrus]

lobotomy

lobomni

[robust osprey]

WRONG

dedicated to leviathan

[swift ferry]

The community? Duh?

[clever raft]

Hi jacob

[pliant ruin]

yes thats the name of the person she was replying to

[wheat walrus]

no it's the name of the person the item is dedicated to

[magic epoch]

🤔

[pliant ruin]

mb original gangster

[wheat walrus]

im actually undoing your existence down to the conceptual coils

[pliant ruin]

can't do that i'm cheese

[wheat walrus]

sure thing i cant

[pliant ruin]

yep

[wheat walrus]

does it anyways

no more conceptual coils

chess

:chess:

♟️

holy shirts

[pliant ruin]

norway..

[cloud ibex]

[soft geyser]

Who wins current draedron or prime yharim

[wheat walrus]

current draedon vs current yharim

[magic epoch]

i think yharim would die before he kills the real draedon

[wheat walrus]

and yea ig

[unborn wind]

yharim vs draedon

[soft geyser]

Does scal have black holes or what is that

[wheat walrus]

whuh

[sinful adder]

No??? Where are you getting these ideas

[soft geyser]

Like I was pretty sure she doesn’t but what is like the circles that chase you

[soft geyser]

The circles that chase you

[young socket]

that isnt a black hole

[wheat walrus]

whispering maelstrom

[soft geyser]

Oh

[soft geyser]

Alright

[final bison]

Yall ever made lore about the terrarians you played as during your playthrough?

[swift ferry]

if they introduce a black hole attack I hope it distorts the screen and music kinda like in kirby. Would be peak

[final bison]

Like for me it's just a girl named hether that suddenly existed one day with the sole objective of delivering judgement and vengeance towards all

She progressively gets more aggressive and eratic as she goes through all of the bosses

[swift ferry]

Lowkey providence coded sorta lowkey

I like it that's a fun character idea

[final bison]

Honestly?

Good point I should make a plot point with her and providence

[swift ferry]

Hell yeah

[stark basalt]

waait

is boss rush text canon

cuz its xeroc talking id assume

cuz

the eye

but he states yharon was his old friend

so xeroc also know yharon? or is it yharim?

[tidal tulip]

yeah apparently yharon was an old friend of them

not yharim

[stark basalt]

but if yharon and yharim were trying to kill the gods with their gang

yharon techiclly was fighting his friend?

[cloud ibex]

former friend seemingly

[tidal tulip]

old friend, yeah. i ask myself that same question. yharon spun the story around to yharim to make xeroc look like a traitor. so, either yharon himself is deceived, or he lied to yharim to get revenge on the rest of the gods

[cloud ibex]

i don't think he needs to have been decieved necessarily

think of it this way

yharon's whole purpose of existence was making sure the age of the dragons never ended

his power meant that the dragons could never truly die

when Xeroc ascended and kickstarted the slow but steady extinction of the auric dragons, that purpose was lost

i'd say you wouldn't need to phrase the ascension as xeroc being a conceited bastard who took zeratros' soul for their own selfish desires for it to make yharon hate them

[spare pier]

Yeah like, the mere basis of what Xeroc did was already what made Yharon explode

[analog robin]

So did he change his name to match the dragon or what

Maybe he was born Jane

The Calamity Jane

[long bloom]

yeah

[pliant ruin]

yep

[pliant ruin]

le bron ???

[cloud ibex]

the bronze jade..

[thick slate]

the bomb bay

[tidal karma]

the bomb bay

[tropic oak]

lebron james

[thick slate]

bone jame

[warped grotto]

Weird how the Clone is the only boss in the Boss Rush to maintain their dialogue, but not Draedon, the Devourer, or SCal

[clever raft]

What if yharon was called dock

Sorry, worst joke i've said

[magic epoch]

how come yharon and scal maintain their lyrics? curious 🤔

[sinful adder]

What?

For the songs?

They're not diagetic if that's what you mean

[clever raft]

im pretty sure boss rush music overrides yharon n scal music

[magic epoch]

i haven't played boss rush in years

i totally forgot it got its own themes

[deft wasp]

Trust me yall imma amend the lore to have astrum aureus be a pre-hardmode boss that can be spawned where the astral infection will strike

[bold dragon]

Wow this sticker is so pretty

[stuck shore]

The sticker

[latent bolt]

is calamity jane even canon to calamity lore my guy

[fast pond]

guys, where does Cosmilite come from

The Distortion?

or just smth Draedon found randomly

[long bloom]

unknown

it will explicitly come from the distortion in the future tho

[fast pond]

alr thx

[limpid saddle]

'we dont know, but we do know'

[fast pond]

and can someone explain this simply?

does Draedon mean it's impossible to remote control simple creature?

[real silo]

it's not just controlling them it's straight up giving them intelligence

[fast pond]

oh hold up

alr I got it now

thx

[bold dragon]

Hoo alr let's give it a try

[fast pond]

it's like teaching quantum phys to kids

[long bloom]

the future version will be in the distortion

i personally don't know where current cosmilite comes from, it's probably stated somewhere

[young socket]

it comes from the distortion

draedon said so

[long bloom]

yeah i haven't read draetalk

i'll get to it in 3-5 business fargo days

[young socket]

he says it in the space log

[robust osprey]

legally counts as draeyap, this was declared by me

[long bloom]

i forgor

[long bloom]

WHY DOES THIS CHANNEL KEEP SAYING THERE'S A MESSAGE BUT THERE'S NO MESSAGE

[pulsar ocean]

50 bucks steam free

Gets deleted

Message icon still there

[long bloom]

ah

a scam

[young socket]

fifty dolla steam gift card

[long bloom]

yes we covered this